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Ambiguous pages of the Great Patriotic. Lokot republic: a paradise for patriots or opportunists?

Historical the phenomenon of seventy years ago, manifested in the territory of our country, is the Lokot Republic. A phenomenon that has long been hidden by the stamps “secret” and “top secret”, and which now continues to offer more questions than answers when meeting with him. Will we ever learn from the fact of the existence of this territorial entity the whole truth and will we be able to unequivocally evaluate those events? - it is quite possible that not, even if one takes into account the maxim that everything secret becomes clear. But at the same time, it is also impossible to turn a blind eye to such a controversial phenomenon as national self-government in the territories occupied by the German army.

So, Lokot republic or, otherwise, Lokot self-government. What is it, and why is this topic itself and, even more so, its discussion in our country has been banned for a long time?

Ambiguous pages of the Great Patriotic. Lokot republic: a paradise for patriots or opportunists?

The Lokot Republic itself begins its history, judging by the documentary evidence that has survived to this day, a few weeks before the German occupation forces entered the territory of these places (then the territory of the Oryol region, and now the territory of the Bryansk, Oryol and Kursk regions). By the will of fate, the administrative center of self-government was the small town of Lokot, which had the status of a village before the arrival of German troops. Why exactly the Elbow? Many historians give the following explanations to this question. Elbow and surroundings since the establishment of Soviet power in Russia (the USSR) were considered, so to speak, not the most loyal territories of the same Soviet power. In these places there was a fairly large percentage of people who called themselves offended by the Soviet regime, which supposedly gave rise to the start of anti-Soviet political and military construction in Lokta (local residents are used to declining the name) and in the surrounding lands.

It was these "offended" and took such a man as Konstantin Voskoboynik, who settled in the town of Lokot for 3 year before the start of World War II, under his wing. Voskoboynik himself, if we proceed from his officially published biography, during the pre-war 22, he managed to “distinguish himself” in various fields. During the Civil War in Russia, he was an ordinary fighter of the Red Army, was wounded, demobilized, after which he found himself in the secretarial office of one of the district military commissariats. Being in this position, 24-year-old Konstantin Voskoboinik (born in Kiev province) suddenly decided to take a direct part in the uprising against Soviet power, joining the ranks of the continuing party of Social Revolutionaries. The further fate of Voskoboynyk is more than foggy.

Konstantin VoskoboynikOn the one hand, it is quite possible to adopt the idea that it was the “offended by the Soviet authorities” citizens who became the “bricks” that later formed the whole republic in the territory occupied by the Germans and even with unthinkable powers for the occupied lands of the local authorities. But on the other hand, we can say that, to put it mildly, they were offended by the Soviet power not only in Lokt. Far from it, Lokot went through all the difficult stages of the formation of the Soviet state with military communism, tax in advance, dispossession of kulaks and other "charms" that awaited the peasantry. So why in the vast majority of other USSR territories (in particular, Russia) occupied by German troops, they did not prepare so enthusiastically for a meeting of the invading army, and in Lokto they were preparing? So zealously prepared under the leadership of the same comrade Voskoboinik, rushing from one idea to another, that even before the Germans arrived in Lokto, the institute of self-government and the self-defense detachment were formed, and the detachment's activity was aimed at pinpoint strikes against the Red Army units that were in the most difficult situation. The "valor" of the detachment was approximately the following: to finish off the wounded Red Army soldiers, collect data on the emerging centers of resistance and prepare them for transfer to the German troops.

The message of Voskoboynik himself was obviously the following: the Germans would come and see how we fought the “councils”, and this would enable us to enlist the support of the occupying forces. And this message, as history shows, has worked. The German command, seeing that there are formations loyal to the Reich in the occupied territory, decided to use these formations for its own purposes - to continue the formation of the artificial Lokot Republic with the simultaneous vesting of Voskoboinik with the authority of its burgomaster. There was such an interesting situation, in which Voskoboinik and his art of controlling the masses were very necessary for the Germans, who experienced great problems in the localities in connection with partisan attacks, and the Germans themselves were needed by Voskoboynik to go to their goal. What was this goal - the main historical question in relation to the entire Lokot Republic.

On this account, some historians, using some parallels with anti-Soviet activists in Western Ukraine, say that Voskoboynik and his associates, they say, cannot be considered accomplices of the Nazis, as they (Voskoboinik’s companions) only used the German occupation to develop a new Russian state under the guise of this very occupation. They say that Voskoboynik could not even begin to fight with the German units — then his whole idea of ​​creating an independent Russian state would have come to an end. But in this regard, the question is: when did Voskoboinik suddenly have an idea to build such a state? Is it not at that moment when he visited the OGPU building in Moscow with a confession? .. And why, if Voskoboynik bore such an idea, then his political views changed with amazing regularity: from adherence to the ideas of Bolshevism to “Socialist” moods, from “Socialist” moods to “ of repentance "before the Chekists, from the" repentance "of the OGPU to the decision to cooperate with the occupying forces of the Reich ...

Proceeding from such changeability in the moods and political views of a citizen of Voskoboinik, the following person’s credo emerges: cooperate with the one who is stronger at the moment. The Soviet power showed its strength - Voskoboynik kept his “offense” to it so deeply that no one knew that this citizen was “offended”, and Voskoboinik himself worked well for this power; Soviet power began to be squeezed out by German troops - he quickly realized that it was necessary to switch to the side of the new force. In simple terms, this policy is called the policy of adaptation, which in the so-called Lokot republic was perfected.

Obviously, the Germans also knew perfectly well who they were dealing with, but they clearly dismissed these black thoughts for them, hoping that the Vokboinik’s Lokot formation was their reliable support in the region. Voskoboynik and his associates skillfully played along ... Admittedly, they played along with a hunt ...

For quite a short time, the so-called Russian People’s Liberation Army (RONA, not to be confused with the Vlasov ROA) was formed from self-defense forces in Lokt and its environs. It was RONA, whose number in 1943 reached 20 thousands of people, and was of primary interest to the German side, since the Nazi occupying forces were able to fight the Soviet partisan resistance in Bryansk and Orlovschiny by local residents. It was precisely the forces of RONA that carried out punitive operations against partisan groups and the population loyal to partisans. RONA's actions were fully encouraged by the German side, which often resulted in unprecedented situations in the territory of Lokot self-government.

RONA fighters

One of these situations is confirmed by historical documents. They contain a remarkable fact when two local German soldiers were sentenced to death by a local county court who took part in looting actions in one of the villages of the “republic”. The occupation forces were indignant with the verdict, but from above they were instructed not to hinder the administration of justice by the local population. This increased the authority of local authorities and at the same time showed how great the German interest was in anti-partisan actions of RONA, as well as how, let's say, flexible were the provisions on the races of "superhumans" and "subhumans" developed in the depths of the Third Reich.

The Germans themselves by all means nursed the Lokot Republic and tried not to interfere in self-government, for the simple reason that it was important to have, let's say, a positive pattern of occupation in their ideological work. Like, let them see in the USSR and the rest of the world that German forces support the formation of democratic institutions in the “liberated from the Red Army” territories of the Union. This propaganda move was bearing fruit for some time: some partisan detachments, losing contact with the center, almost completely switched over to RONA, which is reflected in historical documents that were publicized only recently.

Today, these facts are trying to use the so-called hyperliberal forces, declaring that if the German army had not resisted throughout the USSR, Russia would have turned into a prosperous democratic state immediately after the blitzkrieg. And so, they say, they themselves are to blame for the millions of deaths ...

Such, if I may say so, ideas do not hold water. Indeed, one thing is to have a small territorial entity similar to the Lokotsky volost, loyal to the Nazi regime, which existed in the form of a propaganda signboard of Reich actions on the Eastern front (then in the German rear), and it is quite another thing to take into account the theses of the ideologists of fascism and Nazism that Russia is the state, along with most of its peoples, was supposed to cease to exist. I wonder what Voskoboinik and his replacement at the post of chief burgomaster, Bronislaw Kaminsky, thought about this? Most likely, they simply drove away these thoughts from themselves, hoping that their “grateful” German authorities would retain as the main “prophets” of the formation of the new Russian statehood.

Bronislav KaminskyIn order to preserve, the Lokot leaders (first Voskoboinik and then Kaminsky) decided to extrapolate the ideology of the Third Reich to the territory they controlled. It is worth paying attention - themselves, without the stubborn planting of this ideology by the occupation authorities. They showed, so to speak, a “reasonable initiative” (this is on the issue of the independence of the Lokot Republic). Extrapolation required the creation of an entire political party, the main ideological motivation for the existence of which, in addition to new slogans such as “land to peasants”, was the following theses: “the destruction of accomplices of the communist system”, “the destruction of Jews”, “the destruction of former political department employees in the Red Army”. It is noteworthy that according to these theses, Voskoboinik himself was to be the first to fall under the hot hand of the new government. After all, as already mentioned, he worked in his own office at the secretariat of the Red Army Military Commissariat, went to pay homage to the workers of the OGPU, and there were, and still are, questions about his ethnicity.

However, for obvious reasons, Voskoboinik himself did not fall victim to the party program, but these victims were about 250 Jews of the Lokot volost, who were shot by the local police, and more than two thousand Russians (under Voskoboinik) who somehow supported the partisan movement. Many of them were burned alive in their own homes. The brutality of the massacre was noted in the reports of the German command to Berlin, which was the reason for the further expansion of the powers of the authorities of the Lokot Republic. This once again shows the true motives of Voskoboinik, Kaminsky and their main comrades.

But how much string does not curl ... The Voskoboinik was destroyed first. He was killed by partisans in January 1942. All powers passed to his successor, Bronislaw Kaminsky, as is now fashionable to say. The Lokot Republic finally turned into a police state, on whose territory only one idea could be preached - the idea of ​​complicity to the Reich and settling accounts with opponents of the Reich. The archives preserved reports of Kaminsky himself, which reveal the scale of punitive and "preemptive" operations - operations to "tune" the local population to greater loyalty to the occupation forces.

Reports indicate that during only one of these operations, local police used up to 100 heads of cattle from residents of several villages, several wagons carrying hay, clothes, food. 40 people were shot with the wording: "for aiding partisan detachments" without trial. At the same time, the local residents themselves say that the phrase “for aiding the partisans” was used by Kaminsky whenever his police and army required food. If people tried to protect their property - they were simply destroyed physically ... In total, during the existence of the Lokotsky self-government, more than 30 thousands of local people were hijacked to work in Germany, about 12000 people were executed, completely looted and burned 8 villages. This indicates the real work of the Lokot judicial system of that time, more precisely, that this system was nothing more than a signboard for convenient propaganda by the occupying forces.

When detachments of the Red Army began to approach the Lokot Republic in 1943, what usually happened with groups of opportunists - many quickly realized that it was time to tie up with games in the Kaminsky republic and go over to the side of the attackers. The fighters of the Lokot Republic, who destroyed the partisan underground yesterday, began to surrender to the same partisans along with weapons carts. Kaminsky himself, with the units of the RONA remaining at his disposal and several thousand representatives of the loyal population, was transferred from Lokot volost to the rear of the German army - to Belarus (Lepel market town), where the Lokot republic experienced reincarnation and turned into the Lepel republic. Local residents say that the so-called "populists" of Kaminsky did not behave any more humane, and sometimes much more cruelly, than the German invaders.

The Germans continued to use the Kaminsky detachments to carry out punitive operations, and Kaminsky himself (by that time, the holder of several Reich awards) made the title of waffen brigadefürrer SS, which corresponds to the domestic version of the rank of major general. RONA participated in the suppression of the Slovak uprising, the Warsaw uprising, the "cleansing" of the partisan regions of Belarus.

The Kaminsky days were numbered in August 1944, when the Germans suddenly received information that Kaminsky in 1940 was recruited by the Shadrinsk NKVD while working in one of the technological teams. It’s not quite appropriate to use the word “recruited” here, because working in so-called “sharashkas” at that time itself meant certain agreements with security officers, but ... And Kaminsky worked in Sharashka at one time. The Germans, having received such information about Kaminsky, quickly forgot about his personal merits for the Third Reich, and staged an attack on Bronislav Kaminsky of the Polish partisan detachment. In fact, Kaminsky was shot in Varteland (Western Poland) as an agent of the Soviet special services, but the RONA fighters were informed of the attack on their Polish commander, which led to even more bitterness towards the Polish population.

With the death of Kaminsky, the history of the Lokot Republic ended, which “moved” from place to place, trying to get shelter in the Reich from the advancing Red Army. Most of the RONA fighters dissolved in Germany, and, importantly, managed to escape retribution. There is evidence that several hundred “elbow-populists” returned to the territory of the USSR, but under the guise of liberated prisoners of concentration camps and civilians hijacked to work in Germany. The post-war turmoil could not reveal all those who, calling themselves the builders of the Russian state, took part in the executions of civilians, aided the occupying forces and opposed the Red Army.

Was the Lokot Republic a republic in the full sense of the word, and were democratic ideas cultivated in it, as some researchers of history are trying to present? Certainly not. This territorial entity was nothing more than an example of the administration of the policy of adaptation, which was chosen by several rather active residents of the region as their main life idea. The mere fact that the ideas of Voskoboynyk and Kaminsky found support only in a relatively small occupied space indicates the strangeness of these ideas to the bulk of Soviet citizens who fell under the authority of German troops. At the same time, all the “good” ideas of the Lokot leaders on the development of agriculture and industry, building the judicial, educational and other systems - there is a banal screen of real goals - saving their fifth points. And all this external goodness is crossed out by shot, burned and crippled people who did not want to be led by the opportunists and collaborators.
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  1. fzr1000
    fzr1000 20 May 2013 08: 17 New
    Your deeds are wonderful, Lord. I don’t know how about Konstantin Voskoboinikov, although the face is still the same, but I have no doubt about the nationality of Bronislaw Kaminsky. Well, how is this possible? Where did all this Nazi kagal in Berlin look?
    1. Ross
      Ross 20 May 2013 09: 29 New
      In the first place, there has always been a benefit. Von Kleist in southern Russia served more than 700000 of our fellow citizens.
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 20 May 2013 10: 19 New
        I come from there. My father went to the partisans two months before the age of 16, because at 16 he was called to the police in RONA. The maternal grandfather served in this RONA as a headman, as it later turned out to be an underground, the front met in the Gestapo prison. The salvation of that prison is another story. Therefore, another lying incompetent nonsense is very annoying.

        First a "map". These are the administrative boundaries of the districts. But in the west of Navlinsky, Suzemsky and south Sevsky, respectively, Bryansk and Khinel forests. What is RONA? There, Emlyutin, Saburov, Kovpak, Khokhlov, Naumov, Gudzenko, etc.

        What kind of "state" or "republic" are the liberals talking about? The imperial administrations, SD, SS, Gestapo, gendarmerie, rear Wehrmacht institutions - everything functioned in full. The functions of territorial self-government concerned only the work of collective farms (or whatever the Germans called them), local industry (little, sugar, bakeries), a newspaper was issued, and an amateur theater was organized. The number of RONA - 12 thousand. (The author in Jesuit still mixed ROA). Only this is not the army at all. Because the armed forces in it - this is the civilian police - cops in the present. Civilian police are not punishers of the military police of the Shutsman Shukhevych, etc. And 12 thousand is everyone, together with the pan burgomaster, carpenters, grooms, accountants, printers, etc. This is according to the historian of this topic Igor Ermolov. The RONA policemen, who were reduced to battalions and then regiments of the police, received evacuation status as a brigade. But they never became a division.

        The article is all nonsense. If you are interested in something specifically - I will answer.
        1. Gamdlislyam
          Gamdlislyam 20 May 2013 10: 54 New
          Dear colleague Nikolay S., thank you for the comment. I will not comment on the article itself, because it must be commented in obscene terms. This article is from the De-Stalinization series.
          Dear Site Administration, request, recommendation, requirements, remove this dirty article from the site. Do not insult the memory of our fathers, mothers, grandfathers, who shed blood and endured these torments on their shoulders, and won a glorious Victory over a terrible and powerful enemy.
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 20 May 2013 11: 30 New
            And further. Another author is trying to bring some ideology under it. Rave. Well yes. Under Grozny, these lands were in the custody, and under Godunov, they were palaces, and the kings settled political enemies in them. Well yes. In troubled times, there was a base and the main battles of the two False Dmitry. And the Bolsheviks sent here their political exiles. And after the largest defeats of 1941, there were many POW camps in the Bryansk region. For all that volunteers in RONA was , as a keepsake, 852. The rest were recruited by mobilization, including 16 year olds.

            It all happened because concrete characters Ukrainian Voskoboinik and Volksdeutsche (semi-Pole) Kaminsky were familiar with a specific tank commander, whose area of ​​responsibility included this rear.

            About 1943, the author generally has something absurd. Let me remind you that in 1943, after the victory at Stalingrad, there was a big general offensive, and the Red Army (the front, and not the "detachments" that existed in the author’s brain) came to S. Budy, even under Novgorod Seversky. And only the defeat near Kharkov made the front somewhat level. But Mikhailovsky, Dmitrievsky and part of the Sevsky region remained on the Soviet side of the Kursk Bulge. The front was established along the Sev River, on which Sevsk is from the German side. This was from April to most of August. Thus, forests with partisans were in the front line. And, although the largest formations had gone west by that time, there were enough that remained so that the Germans would be worried about a large number of divisions, including tank for blockade of frontline forests. The detachment in which the father partisan even had to move from dry Khinelsky to the swamps near Suzemka. What is RONA against the partisans.
            1. Nicholas C.
              Nicholas C. 20 May 2013 14: 32 New
              I wonder what kind of marshal quietly vainly prominuced both messages? In essence, there is nothing to object, but do you want to be the enemy of Russia, like the Bandera Kars?
              1. Volodin
                20 May 2013 15: 57 New
                Nikolay, you may be surprised, but in the partisans there was not only your father. If you question archival sources, NKVD reports for the period described, historical interviews with partisans (apparently, not with your father), what can you say ... So let's be mutually polite, and if you disagree with something, The phrases "all nonsense" or "nonsense" clearly do not pull on the ultimate truth. Minus one was mine - for that.
                1. Nicholas C.
                  Nicholas C. 20 May 2013 17: 21 New
                  Do you see Alexei, you are a journalist, not a historian, so you probably don’t know that when you talk about archives, you need to name them, for example, GABO or TSNIIBO: F., Op., D., L. Your words will be full respect and trust. And without this, quite the opposite. My statements here, by the way, are easily verifiable. If not able, I can give links. This topic has been raised on the book more than once, so I wrote about a lot in the comments earlier.

                  Excuse me, that I characterize your language, your style, your competence on this topic, your evidence, with words you dislike, but in this case I have no other words. Another example:
                  Quote: Volodin
                  a local volost court sentenced to death two German soldiers who took part in marauding in one of the villages of the "republic"

                  Why do you, following the Tolerasts and Banderaites, put everything upside down? The usual order, like everywhere else, was this: if civilian policemen decided to contact military personnel (Germans, Hungarians, etc.) who committed a crime in the police zone of responsibility, then they arrested (by order of the burgomaster) or detained, they transferred military gendarmerie. And that’s it. The case of the execution of two Germans (Sonderführer and Non-Commissioned Officer) is unique, unique. And he decided not in any way "volost" court and not for the "looting actions". Where do you only pick out this from? Everything was decided in the district court under the control of Kaminsky himself, and the Germans were attracted not only for the robbery, but also for the murder of the miller. Moreover, contrary to your claims, their leadership actively objected (in connection). But did not have time to arrive before the execution. Because of the two, they did not get involved, but after this incident, Kaminsky did not want to execute the Germans.

                  About Leppel. Do you know that in front of the Kaminets there was the 201st battalion of the schutzmanshaft Pobiguschi and Shukhevych, Statsyuk and the like? (At least you know who they are). Judging by your amazing formulations - no.

                  "historical interviews with partisans" do not scare me. I lived among them. My local history teacher, Bobrov, is a historian of the region and the leader of white search engines. He published conversations with his father. Sorry it wasn’t you.

                  I’ll clarify. You not only don’t know the factual side of the matter and replace ignorance with fabrications, but you don’t even understand the situation and spirit of that time.

                  Didn’t notice that RONA was organized by newcomers? Ah, you have about the "active residents of the area."

                  PS. Cons appeared at the same time. You are as honest in this as in the article.
                  1. Volodin
                    20 May 2013 18: 05 New
                    Of all your lengthy comments, it is clear that you are clearly offended that in your homeland (you yourself wrote that “from there”) this sin was with “Lokotskaya republic”. But I dare to assure you: no one suspects you or your ancestors ... Teachers Bobrov, too.
                    1. Nicholas C.
                      Nicholas C. 20 May 2013 20: 10 New
                      Quote: Volodin
                      Of all your lengthy comments, it is clear that you are clearly offended that in your homeland (you yourself wrote that “from there”) this sin was with “Lokotskaya republic”. But I dare to assure you: no one suspects you or your ancestors ... Teachers Bobrov, too.

                      This is your so-called lengthy and thoroughly false article. And here I showed only a small part of your lies. Speaking of the "sin", the RONA regime was much milder for the population than the direct occupation regime in any other place of the USSR occupied by the Nazis. And my ancestors proved everything and gave everything to their homeland, including in the fight against RONA, and your suspicions do not need. And do not touch Bobrov. It looks disgusting.
        2. rexby63
          rexby63 20 May 2013 21: 56 New
          Finally. And then I did not know what to think. Thank. After your comment, much is clarified
      2. fzr1000
        fzr1000 20 May 2013 10: 51 New
        You did not catch my irony.
      3. luka095
        luka095 20 May 2013 22: 16 New
        And where exactly did 700000 of our fellow citizens serve? What did they do?
    2. svp67
      svp67 20 May 2013 11: 22 New
      Quote: fzr1000
      but about the nationality of Bronislaw Kaminsky I have no doubt. Well, how is this possible? Where did all this Nazi kagal in Berlin look?
      Judging by the biography of Kaminsky, the Nazis looked in the right direction, although maybe they did not know everything
      Born in the Vitebsk province in a Polish-German family (father is Pole, mother is German). In 1917, he entered the Petrograd Polytechnic Institute of Emperor Peter the Great, but soon joined as a volunteer in the Red Army. Member of the CPSU (b). After the Civil War he returned to college, studied at the Petrograd Institute of Chemical Technology, then worked at the Respublika chemical plant.
      In 1935, he was expelled from the CPSU (b) for criticizing collectivization; in August 1937, he was arrested and convicted allegedly for belonging to the Chayanov counter-revolutionary group (see The Labor Peasant Party). Initially serving a link in with. Suerka of the Uporovsky district of the Omsk region (now the Tyumen region), then a technologist for alcohol production at Sharashka in Shadrinsk. March 28 1940 of the year was recruited by the Shadrinsky department of the NKVD under the nickname "Ultramarine" for the development of exiled Trotskyists. At the beginning of 1941, he was released and sent to a settlement in Lokot. Before the war, he worked at the distillery in Lokta. 4 October 1941 year, German troops occupied the village of Lokot Oryol region (now it belongs to the Bryansk).
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 20 May 2013 11: 38 New
        You, too, did not catch my irony, but thanks for the information.
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 May 2013 19: 35 New
      Why didn’t you post publicly available information?

      Born in the Vitebsk province in a Polish-German family (father is Pole, mother is German). In 1917, he entered the Petrograd Polytechnic Institute of Emperor Peter the Great, but soon joined as a volunteer in the Red Army. Member of the CPSU (b). After the Civil War, he returned to college and studied at the Petrograd Institute of Chemical Technology, then worked at the Republic chemical plant.
      In 1935, he was expelled from the CPSU (b) for criticizing collectivization; in August 1937, he was arrested and convicted allegedly for belonging to the Chayanov counter-revolutionary group (see The Labor Peasant Party). Initially serving a link in with. Suerka of the Uporovsky district of the Omsk region (now the Tyumen region), then a technologist for alcohol production at Sharashka in Shadrinsk. On March 28 of 1940 of the year was recruited by the Shadrinsk department of the NKVD under the nickname Ultramarine for the development of exiled Trotskyists. At the beginning of 1941 of the year he was released and sent to a settlement in Lokot. Before the war, he worked at the distillery in Lokta.
    4. luka095
      luka095 20 May 2013 22: 14 New
      Kaminsky - German mother, father Pole, that is, he - Volksdeutsche. That is why he rose to the rank of SS brigadefuhrer.
    5. chingachguc
      chingachguc 19 March 2018 23: 37 New
      Kaminsky - Russified Pole
  2. fedot.uncle
    fedot.uncle 20 May 2013 09: 19 New
    Too much reasoning, although everything is clear - served the German occupiers. Let psychiatrists and writers study the causes and motives. You can not cover up the betrayal of the search for deep motives, emotional impulses, etc.
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 20 May 2013 09: 49 New
      They say because of them and did not give Bryansk a hero city after the war, although there were partisan republics where the Soviet government acted and the invaders were afraid to meddle.
      The wife’s grandfather left for partisans in 16 years. Since we are traveling with him through the forest, he has already been twitched in one place. I asked, he told.
      We went on a mission, ran into a group of SS men in the forest. During a short battle, the Germans were destroyed, several were captured. Ours also had losses, and his friend died. They didn’t shoot the Germans, they took care of the cartridges. They made us strip naked, they had excellent equipment, ours wore what they had to, and then they killed everyone with knives.
  3. Ross
    Ross 20 May 2013 09: 27 New
    First of all, we looked at what is more profitable for the Reich. And Hitler was in the service of many Jews.
  4. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 20 May 2013 09: 37 New
    According to another version, Kaminsky was killed by the Germans because of the unprecedented brutality that the “Kaminsky” showed in the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising, along with the thugs of the SS Derlivanger brigade. Whatever the reason, there was one result. The owners themselves got rid of their faithful dog!
  5. avt
    avt 20 May 2013 10: 03 New
    Quote: Kovrovsky
    According to another version, Kaminsky was killed by the Germans because of the unprecedented cruelty that "Kaminsky" showed in the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising
    When these punishers were thrown into Warsaw, they couldn’t be more capable of “fighting” with the civilian population and with lightly armed resistance groups, they killed the Germans there. They mixed them up with drunken eyes, and the owners of them who distinguished themselves especially for tanks put them down.
    Quote: fedot.uncle
    Let psychiatrists and writers study the causes and motives.

    And, they’re studying the “Borusik Chubais and the Gavrilka of priests” - he released a book that Vlasov supposedly broke into Leningrad to create a “center of resistance” to Stalin. But so far they were afraid to write about these.
  6. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 20 May 2013 10: 26 New
    Ordinary traitors and traitors what else can I say about them?
  7. wk
    wk 20 May 2013 11: 16 New
    ///// Ambiguous pages of the Great Patriotic War./////
    not covered "vlasovschina" is already in the title .... where did such an article on a patriotic website come from? .... such could appear on the liberal Deletant .... rotten attempt to justify the traitors!
  8. _KM_
    _KM_ 20 May 2013 11: 53 New
    Quote: Standard Oil
    Ordinary traitors and traitors what else can I say about them?

    Persistent and proactive. Nevertheless, the end is one. Either the new owners will be destroyed, or they will be shot at home. And it is right.
  9. Myasnov
    Myasnov 20 May 2013 12: 08 New
    Okay, cowards and traitors themselves. But why else shoot everyone around?
  10. pinecone
    pinecone 20 May 2013 12: 41 New
    The author writes about "Bryansk" and "Oryol". For reference. Bryansk region was formed on July 5, 1944. in the territory allocated from the Oryol region. At one time I had a chance to read a small book published during the war, which was devoted to exploits Oryol partisans in the fight against the German invaders.
  11. Igarr
    Igarr 20 May 2013 13: 24 New
    I had a chance to read about this "republic" before.
    That’s all nonsense.
    Oryol know these places - swamps, thickets. In the 40s wilderness .. to search.
    There were active "pedrils" ... they gave the Germans a couple dozen of their henchmen - for the ugly .. national army. Proudly flaunted themselves.
    But in fact - pissers and mongrel.
    Except the Germans ... yes, our NKVD and nobody paid attention to them. It is a pity only - these scumbags actively used this. Well, the psychology is ...
    It would be necessary to know. And there is no need to build a problem.
  12. dmb
    dmb 20 May 2013 14: 19 New
    The title of the article is not entirely clear: "Ambiguous pages ...". For whom are ambiguous? It seems to a normal person, the opinion on these pages is quite unambiguous, traitors who have a place only on the gallows. In fact, in recent times, Volodin’s articles practically did not cause any complaints, but he apparently wrote this in a hurry. For example, a passage about the transfer of entire partisan detachments to the "brave" ranks of policemen due to lack of communication needs at least some kind of documentary confirmation. As you know, they didn’t go to partisans for mobilization and didn’t recruit them forcibly.
  13. Ilyukha
    Ilyukha 20 May 2013 14: 53 New
    Something the author of the article too “smartly” and “analytically” painted the history of the banal traitors, looters and thieves who had to clean the German boots on our land. There is also “justice, self-government, ideology.” Raw article, incompetent.
  14. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 20 May 2013 15: 47 New
    Sketch on the fan. The Germans thought up around one traitor and reported to Berlin. It is not clear why there is no moderation for any harmful nonsense.
    1. Volodin
      20 May 2013 16: 41 New
      The Germans thought up around one traitor and reported to Berlin
      And in the archival documents of the NKVD they played along ...
  15. mushtuc
    mushtuc 20 May 2013 15: 53 New
    Traitors from the Lokot Republic are the ancestors of the current swamp pack.
  16. DIME
    DIME 20 May 2013 16: 48 New
    Gentlemen screaming about the worthlessness of articles, re-read the last paragraph.
    The author clearly put forward the thesis, summed up the rationale and gave the answer:
    "Was the Lokot Republic a republic in the full sense of the word, and were democratic ideas cultivated in it, as some scholars of history are trying to present today? Of course not. This territorial entity was nothing more than an example of the implementation of the policy of opportunism, which was chosen as its main life idea by several fairly active residents of the region. "

    There is a feeling that most commentators read only the headlines ....
    1. Volodin
      20 May 2013 17: 04 New
      DIME, you hit the mark! Many of us do not go further than reading the heading and the first paragraph, but what comments, what extensive comments ... smile And there is still reading technology in three lines.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 20 May 2013 19: 04 New
        Guys ..
        Yes, not an article worthless, Alex writes exceptionally well.
        The fact itself ... of these ..politsaev - does not deserve such work of a respected author.
        Alexey drew attention to the "scumbags" - got for it ... unexpectedly.
        Only an article about something else - that there are always those who on another's hump strive to enter paradise.
        This Voskoboinikov, a confession to the NKVD - and after that free?
        With such happiness - and free?
        Moreover, does it form any semi-gang units in the tactical rear of the Germans?
        Among the partisan units?
        Who believes ... that this psychopath ... worked independently?
        And - did it work at all? Or just scammed denunciations and phony acts?
        I do not believe.
  17. Black
    Black 20 May 2013 17: 12 New
    what is unknown in the history of the motherland? Some defended her and died on the fronts, while others, taking advantage of the misfortune, kicked her and entertained their own ambitions. Article- for false promises- minus.
  18. kind
    kind 20 May 2013 20: 26 New
    Judas Suvorov (Rezun) writes about this "republic" as the achievement of a people "liberated" from the yoke of the USSR.
  19. Larus
    Larus 20 May 2013 20: 51 New
    People who kill their own people cannot be called patriots, but opportunists were always opportunists, it was they who ruined the USSR by becoming a part of the CPSU, then having beaten it with their own slops and turned into thieves-thieves. These are the most dangerous if they are not identified.
  20. luka095
    luka095 20 May 2013 22: 26 New
    Here is the Germans' assessment of this Die Aktion Kaminsky: "Kaminsky created an island inside a vast partisan region that impedes the expansion of the partisan movement, links the activities of powerful partisan forces and provides an opportunity for German propaganda among the population. In addition, the district supplies food for the German troops ... It became possible ... to preserve German blood in the fight against partisans. " (General Schmidt, commander of the 2nd Panzer Army).
    The quote is taken from: Dyukov A. Die Aktion Kaminsky: Lokotsky "self-government" and the creation of the RONA brigade. / Myths of the Patriotic War. M., 2010.
    But the assessment of the Brasovsky District Committee of the CPSU (B.) In the spring of 1943: the Germans did not leave Lokot, they were constantly present there. In addition to the military commandant’s office in Lokot, there was a security battalion, a military gendarmerie, an aberger group ... "
  21. bublic82009
    bublic82009 20 May 2013 22: 53 New
    that’s how all these liberals would impose democracy on us
  22. wax
    wax 20 May 2013 23: 01 New
    As R.N. wrote in his memoirs Redlich, who served in the RONA in January – July 1944: “He [Kaminsky] was in the position: anyway, with whom, even with the devil, if only to cut the Bolsheviks. Good Germans, bad, but what matters to me ... He was a brutal anti-communist, as they say now - a caveman ... "
  23. chingachguc
    chingachguc 19 March 2018 23: 42 New
    According to emigrants, Voskoboinik was an extremely impulsive person, but who believed in his words, like Saakashvili. Kaminsky is a completely unprincipled person, with a good organizer.