Europe is considering the possibility of creating its "Reaper"

Disappointed by the obvious selectivity of the United States in relation to the Allies to provide the right of integration weapons on your drums DronesThe Italian Air Force is considering all possible alternatives, including the creation of a "black program" (black program) of an armed European medium-altitude/long-endurance (MALE) UAV, aviationweek.com reported on May 9.

Rome asked for permission to integrate weapons on the MQ-9 Reaper (pictured) almost two years ago, but Washington’s lack of response to this request is “not very acceptable,” said Claudio Debertolis, secretary-general of defense and director of the Ammunition Administration for Italy. reports Aviation Week 8 May.

Italy acquired the General Atomics MQ-1 Predator and MQ-9 Reaper drums from the United States, since they could be quickly sent to strengthen the International Coalition forces in Afghanistan than to wait for the production of similar UAVs in Europe. "At the whim of the US government," Italy cannot modernize these drones, but the weapons for these UAVs are "high priority" for Italian troops, says Alberto Rosso, head of the logistics service for the Italian Air Force. “The US is not the only country that can provide these needs. We can look for an alternative, ”said the general.

Italy is in talks with potential European partners to create an armed UAV, which Debertolis called Super MALE. Work on this program has not yet begun, as potential partners have not yet agreed on how to go forward. But the goal is to create such a drone using 2017 on the basis of existing technologies. If the program moves forward, this project may be presented at the Paris Air Show next month.

However, equipping the Italian Predators and Rippers with weapons is still “the preferred option,” says Rosso. The general hopes that the United States will take a positive decision on this issue.

This situation occurs against the background of the fact that the United States provided the UK with the opportunity to integrate their weapons into the MQ-9 Reaper. London integrates its MBDA Brimsone rockets on these drones. In terms of its characteristics, these SDs are similar to Hellfire missiles with a millimeter-wave radar HOS equipped with a tandem warhead for engaging armored targets. In addition, the British "Reaper" already equipped with Hellfire missiles and guided bombs (UAB) GBU-12 Paveway II caliber 500 pounds with laser-guided.

Italy is using the MQ-1 Predator BLA in Afghanistan and is preparing to bring them home, sending the MQ-9 Reaper in return. The Italian Air Force was hoping to integrate weapons on the Reaper by the time of the rotation. But a long time waiting for the decision of the United States, even if it is positive, led to the fact that little money is left to integrate weapons, Rosso said.

Comments

[fortunophile]

Expensive toys against banana countries, completely useless against a serious opponent. IMHO
Iran "landed" an American toy, yesterday the Israeli UAV "splashed down", I think further interception of control of these devices will only be simplified

[patline]

Against worthy opponents, drones will fit, only as reconnaissance ones, according to the flight program laid down in advance and without a communication channel with the earth or satellite. Otherwise, yes, interception is possible.
Well, or you need such a narrow channel as a laser and without interference.

[AK44]

The drone will be blue in any way, just like the sexual orientation of the designers.

[Sleptsoff]

Then the question is, why are we trying to create our own drone if it is so easy to intercept it? (in your opinion, it is natural) You might think that we have all over Russia some objects to suppress the drone signal. The special forces will go into reconnaissance, he will take a car with him to suppress. You oligophrenic one argument - this drone is shit because it is American.

[Mikhail3]

I have a "drone jamming facility" in my shed. Like half of the street. Kid, you see oligophrenic in the mirror every day. And I feel sorry for you ...

[11 black]

Quote from Sleptsoff

Then the question is, why are we trying to create our own drone if it is so easy to intercept it? (in your opinion, it is natural) You might think that we have all over Russia some objects to suppress the drone signal. The special forces will go into reconnaissance, he will take a car with him to suppress. You oligophrenic one argument - this drone is shit because it is American.

I certainly do not consider myself an oligophrenic, but the American UAV has already shown its vulnerability in Iran when Iran landed the RQ 170 Sentinel, but Sentinel will be much more serious than Riper and Predator combined - this is one of the most modern US UAVs, and this is what happened with its use against at least some - that developed enemy.

and yet, the special forces can take equipment against drones with them - the FSB last year ordered Tiger cars with Radioelectronic Combat complexes - so the use of UAVs against a developed enemy and the prada is in question ...

and ours create an attack UAV for actions against terrorists in Chechnya - there it will be extremely useful and such equipment for intercepting spirits will not be exactly IMHO
PS in the photo a tiger with an electronic warfare complex - as you can see, it’s a very mobile machine ...

[Sleptsoff]

You are not oligophrenic because you brought arguments. You can agree with them or not, another question is just annoying people sitting on a stool in front of the monitor, probably dressed in sweatshirts with bubbles and a T-shirt for an alcoholic and stupidly dirty things that all developed countries are now trying to create.

[Vtel]

Yes, they are all the Nazis - they want to bomb the Afghans in a dash, as if later this would not have come back to him by the boomerang, and rightly so. It is a pity that our kosher US and Israeli Hasidim obeyed and do not want Syria to supply S-300. Oh, if I had an S-300, I would have given it to the Syrians a long time ago.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

That's it, but the men don't even know! It turns out that you want to save the life, health and psyche of your soldiers, you are goats ... l yes? Yes, the logic is worthy of a "real priot".

[pensioner]

Europe is considering the possibility of creating its "Reaper"

Start with a tripper. You will do better.

[Horde]

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Europe is considering the possibility of creating its "Reaper"

Start with a tripper. You will do better.

say everything correctly, well, the tripper will not be able to fly normally

[Sirocco]

Europe is considering the possibility of creating its "Reaper"

And with whom is the EU going to fight with the help of these devices? Where is the proposed theater? No way in Africa. Europe is either furious with fat or suffering from dementia, they have problems with the economy, the crisis is strangling, and they are investing in useless toys, Russia does not threaten them, Russia has never been the first to attack the EU, unlike some. Against whom are they friends there? Or are they preparing to carry democracy to us? So Russia is afraid of UAVs, it’s like a hedgehog to threaten with a naked ass.

[Mikhail3]

Boats with illegal immigrants will be drowned. From that Africa, yeah ... Launch planes on this business - you won't get away with a cry. And so it will be in the best western style - we have not seen, we do not know what drowned there - we do not know. When you consider such questions, remember that the West is best and most willingly at war with the defenseless. They will also sell "safari tours" - they say, drown a Negro family right from your home computer ...

[evfrat]

Well, not all of Serduchka's budgets to develop ...

[individual]

The hobby for UAV creation programs is akin to the computer games of the last century, when spoiled children in all seriousness showed adults what an android could be with a computer.

[druidcat]

If we are talking about Afghanistan, then the United States started a special badyaga there, so that the entire Europe and Russia can be trafficked with drugs. The more the mess goes on there, the better the minke whales. By the way, they want to slip from there, and we all have to disentangle it.

[USNik]

Quote: fortuneophile

Expensive toys against banana countries, completely useless against a serious opponent. ...

+1
In general, combat UAVs are good, but there are a couple of disadvantages that can be eliminated:
The small payload and short range can be compensated by increasing the size of the tanks and the airframe, insufficient speed can be increased by installing more powerful engines, the threat of interception of the communication channel by the enemy can be removed by adding a pilot ... AND SUDDENLY it turns out the Su-27 .

[TSOOBER]

smiled as amers with their "allies" act, we want to give, we want not to give! Once again I am convinced that mattress makers have no allies, only vassals!

[RSNV.]

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Europe is considering the possibility of creating its "Reaper"

Start with a tripper. You will do better.

Meanwhile, the Russian Federation ranks first in Europe in terms of the number of HIV-infected people, and the growth rate of the AIDS epidemic is one of the highest in the world, so is it worth it to worry about their gonorrhea.

[Lopatov]

In total? Or in number per 1000 population?

[RSNV.]

this is an intensive indicator, it is calculated per 100 thousand people, the absolute numbers are also not encouraging. In my city with a population of 400 thousand people as of 01. 01. 2012. almost 7 thousand people are registered, in reality this figure needs to be multiplied by 5, ..., 7. In general, the trouble.

[Containers]

And of course there is no general human fault in this - they, of course, do not control drug trafficking from Afghanistan.

[RSNV.]

The fault of the "common people" in this UNCONDITIONALLY IS, as well as the fault of those who ruined the domestic health care and not only it.

[Containers]

I noticed that a lot of people hardly understand irony. Well, I'm talking about "John's innocence", if that.
And what about domestic health care in this case? Was it able to cure AIDS? It could cause drug addicts not to inject one needle in a circle or something? Domestic health, on the contrary, offers a FREE set of antiretroviral drugs for those in need. Only 60-70% of these needy people are drug addicts and they haven’t gotten anywhere with this treatment. It is necessary to deal with the cause, and only secondarily - with the consequences.

[UFO]

The scope of the UAV is much wider than the mental capabilities of some "strategists" and "analyzers" on the site. Plus the development of new technologies for control, communication, airframe, materials, electronics and ...... We look at those who have experience in using UAVs, and draw conclusions! If during the Chechen and Georgian campaigns we had drones of the Reaper type, how many lives of soldiers could we have saved ?????

[karbofos]

I think drones-hunters for strike and reconnaissance drones will come up soon

[Kolyan 2]

Quote: UFO

The scope of the UAV is much wider than the mental capabilities of some "strategists" and "analyzers" on the site. Plus the development of new technologies for control, communication, airframe, materials, electronics and ...... We look at those who have experience in using UAVs, and draw conclusions! If during the Chechen and Georgian campaigns we had drones of the Reaper type, how many lives of soldiers could we have saved ?????

Well, why insult the people? You justify them, explain, chew in the end, everyone puts his opinion, in order to comment, I agree and there are impenetrable.

[UFO]

And what actually "chew", not children tea. Do we have gangs in the Caucasus? Israel has learned to use UAVs well against terrorists, pointwise. Is the border locked? Drones would be very useful to border guards. On the Kuril Islands - one "pistol-machine gun" barrage division, 2 regiments! And the territory of the Kuriles! They entered South Ossetia, did not know: who was where, where were the ambushes, etc. In general, the territory of the country does not evoke any thoughts? Especially after the "reforms" to reduce the Armed Forces. Even during hostilities (God forbid), everything will be covered everywhere, even in the old-fashioned way by living people? And the drone, it hangs in the sky for a day, it is necessary - it hits, it is not necessary - it sat down, another took off, in this it is not economical to compare with an airplane, but in case of loss it is stupid. Talk about intelligence (mini UAV), do you understand, or all with their feet, risking their lives? And time! Covering columns in cooperation with the Army Air Force, fighting in urban settings, etc. And I didn’t want to offend, I apologize, if someone "so" understood it. But do not understand the prospects of the UAV ...

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Do you know how many times already chewed ?! Well, if a person excuse me without brains how else can he hammer these common truths?

[APASUS]

I am only interested in one question, why do Europeans need to buy American drones? A sufficiently strong aviation industry allows you to create even better and not depend on American industrialists.
Although the allocation of money to non-traditional couples, perverts of any kind probably brings more dividends ?!