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Lukashenko: Deliveries of Russian C-300 systems are not aimed against anyone, Belarus is strengthening its air defense system

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Deliveries of C-300 Russian anti-aircraft missile systems to Belarus are not directed against anyone. This was announced today by President Alexander Lukashenko, who is in the Chernobyl region of the country.


"This is purely defensive weaponwhich is not directed against anyone, "said the president. At the same time, he rejected the assumptions of some politicians that an agreement with Russia on the supply of C-300 complexes would lead to the loss of Belarus’s sovereignty." This will never happen. The sovereignty and independence of the country is my holy constitutional duty, "said Lukashenko.

He recalled that at one time he himself turned to the Russian side about the supply of these complexes to Belarus. “I asked 7 years ago to supply us with these complexes,” Lukashenka noted. According to him, only with the new Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation a positive response was received on the supply of several C-300 divisions. The president does not see anything new in the fact that Belarus is strengthening its air defense system. “Belarusian air defense is the most powerful in the western direction, besides, we are covering up Russia, we have a single group,” Lukashenka stressed.

He added that Belarus also needed "a couple of dozen Su-27 or MiG-29 aircraft" to ensure the inviolability of state borders. According to him, the question of the supply of Russian fighters is "being discussed." Lukashenko stressed that the Belarusian-Russian military cooperation does not lead to the loss of the sovereignty of the republic.
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  1. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk April 27 2013 06: 39
    25
    Who would doubt that some Sperds would consider the purchase of S-300 complexes for the loss of sovereignty, those same scumbags would yell that the purchase of some kind of muck like Patriots or other rubbish rubbish would be an extremely shabby way to increase sovereignty.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 27 2013 06: 45
      25
      Well done, Old Man! S-300 --- defensive weapon, and everything else, dogs barking laughing
      1. Krapovy32
        Krapovy32 April 27 2013 08: 15
        13
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Well done, Old Man! S-300 --- defensive weapon, and everything else, dogs barking laughing



        Yes, in general, there was still not enough reporting to someone. A sovereign country does what it wants, and let these European people let them treat their hemorrhoids and not blather. Or their doctors didn’t enlighten that if you use the butt for purposes not intended by nature, then the hemorrhoid will come out lol
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt April 27 2013 08: 22
          12
          The Poles should be happy. After all, we will protect them from aliens or Iranian missiles, for example, if so, let them scream, wretched wassat
          1. botur
            botur April 27 2013 10: 23
            0
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Poles should be happy


            Joys are already full of diapers. lol
            According to Polish military experts, the Russian air base does not pose a direct threat to Poland, however, the deployment of S-300 missiles could upset the military balance in the region, Polskie Radio reports.

            “The conclusions from this event need to be made serious,” said Pavel Koval. - The Russians believe that the strategic situation in Belarus will allow them to increase their military presence there and change the alignment of forces in Central Europe. If Sergey Shoigu’s statements are serious and not intended for propaganda, then we will be forced to bring up the issue of balance of power in Central Europe for discussion by NATO, ”he said.

            Some military experts agree that increased Russian military influence in Belarus poses a threat to Warsaw.

            “The range of these complexes is so great that those who own them can control the sky over Poland,” said Wojciech Luchak, editor-in-chief of the Polish publication Raport: Wojsko-Technika-Obronność.
            1. Nick
              Nick April 27 2013 10: 55
              +3
              Quote: botur
              “The range of these complexes is so great that those who possess them can control the sky over Poland,” said the editor-in-chief of the Polish publication Raport: Wojsko-Technika-Obronność

              They remembered Libya, they were afraid of the no-fly zone over Poland ... It was not necessary to join NATO ...fool
              1. Papakiko
                Papakiko April 27 2013 21: 49
                +3
                Quote: Nick
                Libya remembered, scared of the no-fly zone over Poland

                I am here to amuse myself with the hope that under the guise of the S-300 it is possible to put on duty an Iskander-K equipped with R-500 missiles.
                (photo 2007. Kapustin Yar)
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov April 27 2013 21: 54
                  +2
                  In vain you amuse. Russia has agreed in principle to supply Iskander to Belarus. However, a moratorium was introduced on their supply for export - the industry can hardly cope with the orders of the native MO
                2. NickitaDembelnulsa
                  NickitaDembelnulsa April 28 2013 16: 14
                  0
                  I like this idea. I'm behind both hands
              2. matryoshka
                matryoshka April 28 2013 14: 44
                +1
                Yeah, in Libya, the Soviet complexes rolled out under the nut.
            2. eagle11
              eagle11 April 27 2013 11: 59
              -9
              Since when has the range of as much as 75 km become large? The dad’s appetites are growing, and he’ll also be served with planes! When conscience wakes up, all his life on a leak in Russia.
              1. buga1979
                buga1979 April 27 2013 13: 56
                +6
                you’re wrong and where does the dad delivering s-300 Russia protects itself and the Belarusian people since the Belarusians are Russian and Belarus is the western shield of Russia and their whole doctrine is based on holding out until the approach of the Russian army
                1. Kostya pedestrian
                  Kostya pedestrian April 27 2013 17: 19
                  +3
                  Correction: Shield and Ball! Although such a comparison is not quite attractive for us Belarusians, understand me correctly, is that something that is hitting you, but are you setting us up?

                  Therefore, the S-300 just in time, and Sushki would come in handy, so that for Russia we would not only be a Shield, but also a Rocket Sword!
                2. eagle11
                  eagle11 April 28 2013 09: 24
                  0
                  Wow, but in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the view on the development of the conflict is completely different ... You will analyze the "creativity" of the leadership of Belarus, in relation to Russia, who will guarantee that it will not be a forward bridgehead for the enemies of Russia, everything may not change in our side, and very quickly. And the Ukrainians are the same Russians, let's put them in complexes, we will cover ourselves, so to speak. Remember how many countries were in Warsaw, which of them are with us now? How many weapons were given away for next to nothing, now the only thing left is to forgive debts.
                  I have nothing against Belarusians, but I need to raise my own air defense, raise it to a level, and there you can sell weapons to your brothers.
                  1. Retx
                    Retx April 28 2013 11: 36
                    -2
                    Belarusians. Bridgehead. Against us. Two teas for this gentleman! smile Oh laugh
                    1. eagle11
                      eagle11 April 28 2013 14: 19
                      0
                      You are confusing two things here: politics and military action. Of course, from the point of view of the military, 4 air defense systems will not affect the country's defense capability (even such as Belarus), respectively, this is mainly a political step, as a political step, too costly, it was enough just to "scare" the deployment of air defense systems on the territory of Belarus (you can s-400 to threaten). At one time, when Russia was intimidated by the deployment of missile defense systems in Eastern Europe, I studied at the academy, our professors immediately said that they would not place anything, this is a political move. Of course, I'm not going to tell here their arguments and analysis ...
                      Now we will consider, so in close approximation, a military conflict, what kind of conflict can arise here (if it is of course not a world war), I can’t even imagine attacking Russia from Belarus. A world war is not foreseen, let's say a regional war. Here, of course, it is understandable, Belarus is in no way without Russia, if they climb on it, and if the goal is Russia? All the conflicts that we had in the West show that we are stopping the enemy, as a rule, near Moscow. If someone thinks that things will certainly be different now, take off your glasses. Imagine yourself in the place of Lukashenka, he has a choice, either not to get in anywhere, of course with economic and political losses, but to keep the country whole, or to make your country a battlefield and turn into ruins (here someone wrote that the Belarusians need to hold out until the approach of our troops, without comment, a person does not know exactly how they are fighting now, who and what can fight and how). And you seriously think, he will say: "Let's lie for our brothers!" So, all this is politics, and Lukashenka is a smart politician.
              2. itkul
                itkul April 27 2013 14: 35
                +2
                Quote: eagle11
                The dad’s appetites are growing, and he’ll also be served with planes!


                I did not understand the same thing, there was recently an article that Belarus was selling its military fighter jets.
              3. Bashkaus
                Bashkaus April 27 2013 15: 21
                -1
                Do you want to say that sucking at Americans is sweeter?
                1. eagle11
                  eagle11 April 28 2013 14: 24
                  +2
                  They will not be able to suck on the Americans, they invest every dollar in other countries with the calculation. Look at Ukraine, where are the American weapons? Even NATO members, Balts? Everything that they were given was a duty unit in Zoknyai, and you can get a lot from us, gas, oil, weapons. That is to say (words of Belarusian officers) you have to pay for "friendship"!
              4. Nick
                Nick April 27 2013 18: 01
                0
                Quote: eagle11
                The dad’s appetites are growing, and he’ll also be served with planes! When conscience wakes up, all his life on a leak in Russia.

                Actually, Russia and Belarus have a common air defense system. This is, firstly, and secondly, this is a distant frontier of Russian defense.
                1. eagle11
                  eagle11 April 28 2013 09: 30
                  +1
                  The general system, this is good in words, in fact, everything is a little not very good, the guys from the 32nd Air Defense Corps told, and the Belarusians themselves.
                  The distant frontier is wonderful, and where is the nearest, around the Moscow Ring Road? Our very approaches are bare in the west.
                  1. matryoshka
                    matryoshka April 28 2013 14: 46
                    +1
                    And who cares, who needs Smolensk, Bryansk. why cover them?
            3. antidote
              antidote April 28 2013 09: 16
              -1
              That Belarusians will protect the sky of Poland
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg April 27 2013 13: 01
            0
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            The Poles should be happy. After all, we will protect them from aliens or Iranian missiles, for example, if so, let them scream, wretched wassat


            That’s yes, of course ... we’ll only protect it rather from their own rash acts, which is more than essential.
      2. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim April 27 2013 14: 03
        +1
        He added that Belarus also needs "a couple of dozen Su-27 or MiG-29 aircraft", And why! Let's give su-35, all the best for siblings.
      3. matryoshka
        matryoshka April 28 2013 14: 43
        +1
        Of course well done, he’ll also beg for the money for the service.
    2. matryoshka
      matryoshka April 28 2013 14: 41
      0
      so do not buy the same, they want for free
  2. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 27 2013 06: 41
    10
    He added that Belarus also needs "a couple of dozen Su-27 or MiG-29 aircraft" to ensure the inviolability of the state's borders. According to him, the issue of deliveries of Russian fighters is "under discussion."

    Plus a couple of dozen Iskanders and a couple of dozen Topols did not hurt either.


    Lukashenko emphasized that the Belarusian-Russian military cooperation does not lead to the loss of the sovereignty of the republic.

    Of course it doesn't. Who will now try to get into Belarus with the "democratizer"?
    1. vilenich
      vilenich April 27 2013 06: 59
      +8
      But father does everything right. For some reason, I want all our leaders to be like him.
      1. Alexander
        Alexander April 27 2013 09: 23
        -1
        Putin is cooler.
        1. NAV-STAR
          NAV-STAR April 27 2013 10: 03
          +3
          Lukashenko is the most patriotic president in the post-Soviet space.
          And for those who care about sovereignty: Sovereignty - (French). The set of supreme rights belonging to the head of state. Dictionary of foreign words included in the Russian language. Chudinov AN, 1910. Sovereignty of the law of the supreme power in relation to citizens; supremacy.
          The president does not have that totality of supreme rights belonging to the head of state, he is the guarantor of the constitution (manager). There is something to think about ...
        2. vilenich
          vilenich April 27 2013 11: 07
          +1
          Quote: Alexander
          Putin is cooler.

          Maybe cooler, but not like that.
        3. bilgesez
          bilgesez April 27 2013 22: 50
          0
          pupkin dandruff yid
    2. eagle11
      eagle11 April 27 2013 12: 01
      -3
      Do you even understand that we give it away for free? And as practice shows, in return we get only a statement of grievances and wagging backwards in front of the West! Let's give them everything, and they will quickly resell, as it was already.
      1. Conepatus
        Conepatus April 27 2013 15: 07
        +1
        First, Belarus sold its fighters and air defense systems, and now it will receive new ones.
        Darom.Mlt.Durnoy Yanukovych, here for good words the new C300s are distributed, and he is silent that the fish is on ice.
      2. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus April 27 2013 15: 31
        +1
        And I have a better offer, let's give everything to the West for free, you know how good it is (the West), in gratitude, it will turn us around a bit, bend us a little and blow it out by the least. So the law in France is already prepared.
  3. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 27 2013 07: 43
    0
    Quote: vilenich
    But father does everything right. For some reason, I want all our leaders to be like him.

    drinks
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWK8iVN5qe0
  4. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 27 2013 07: 44
    +5
    Quote: vilenich
    But father does everything right. For some reason, I want all our leaders to be like him.

    drinks

    From the 2nd minute 22 sec.




    1. Heccrbq
      Heccrbq April 27 2013 09: 56
      +2
      Why don’t you take into account the attitude of society about migrants, O Soncelikii?
    2. Spike
      Spike April 27 2013 10: 03
      +3
      How can I understand the p-race. am
    3. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus April 27 2013 15: 55
      +5
      Comrades, I watched a speech with Putin, and I want to ask you again if I understood his message correctly:
      1-Vladimir Vladimirovich gives us a complete carte blanche to shoot homosexuals (see video # 2 at 2:30)
      2-Putin lets us all understand that he supports the public’s mood against homosexuality.
      (notice how he gracefully winked at us in video # 3 at 1:46)
      If I understood everything correctly, then
      1-then I have a question, where can I get a shooting license?
      2-are there any reserved places where shooting is prohibited
      3-are there places where on the contrary shooting is allowed even without a license?
      4-are there any travel companies organizing such a sophari?
      Understand correctly my excitement))))
  5. Know-nothing
    Know-nothing April 27 2013 07: 57
    -7
    Hehe, Shoigu thought he would place the Russian air base
    http://www.interfax.by/news/belarus/128986
    and Old Man just needs planes, and he’ll think about a base or not a base
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc0AsMlRHzs&t=125s
  6. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 27 2013 08: 10
    +1
    That's just Lukashenko what for it wrote off all dry-27, and now asks for new ones?
    1. Know-nothing
      Know-nothing April 27 2013 08: 16
      +1
      "Protection of sovereignty" is outsourced wink
    2. eagle11
      eagle11 April 27 2013 12: 04
      +3
      Well, it’s worth considering. I studied with Belarusian officers at the academy, I remember their attitude and statement about Russia in private conversations. EXCLUSIVELY CONSUMER!
      1. vilenich
        vilenich April 27 2013 13: 07
        +2
        Quote: eagle11
        I studied with Belarusian officers at the academy, I remember their attitude and statement about Russia in private conversations.

        And I studied, but I remember only positive statements about Russia! Apparently you got such people, or maybe the times were different.
      2. Kostya pedestrian
        Kostya pedestrian April 27 2013 17: 14
        +1
        Is it really that consumers will interfere with Russian weapons with excess?
    3. buga1979
      buga1979 April 27 2013 13: 59
      +3
      resource mat is not infinite
    4. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus April 27 2013 15: 13
      +2
      We are not sorry for the fraternal people of the aircraft, if asked, we will give as much as needed and Su27 and Su35 with C400 to the load.
      And the fact that they are doing their entrusted property does not concern us: they want to leave for themselves, they want to let go of the needles, they want to give to Syria or there Iran.
      This is the depth of family relationships and love of Orthodox peoples:
      ... Love is long-suffering, merciful, love does not envy, love is not exalted, not proud, does not act outrageously, does not seek its own, does not get irritated, does not think evil, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices in the truth; it covers everything, believes everything, hopes everything, transfers everything. ” (1 Cor. 13, 4-7)
      1. vilenich
        vilenich April 27 2013 15: 39
        +3
        Quote: Bashkaus
        We are not sorry for the fraternal people

        Yes, everything is absolutely true, why save on trifles, when you can safely include Belarus in the Russian orbit!
        1. eagle11
          eagle11 April 28 2013 14: 26
          +1
          Then, there will be another conversation!
      2. eagle11
        eagle11 April 28 2013 08: 58
        +2
        In only our army, do not love love. Give how much we ask!
    5. wheel
      wheel April 27 2013 15: 22
      0
      they were written off due to physical wear and tear. look at the release date - 80 years. there aren’t so many cars in the West! if you need more reasons - look at the number of irreparable losses in the Belarusian military aviation lately. and then just ask your stupid question!
      1. eagle11
        eagle11 April 28 2013 08: 56
        +3
        "They are written off due to physical wear. Look at the date of their release - 80s. In the west, so many cars do not drive!"
        But do you have any idea when the Su-27 aircraft were produced, in fact, mainly in the 80s! In Russia, also mainly 80s cars, however, do not write off.
        Of course, it is necessary to strengthen the borders. But not at the expense of other sites, Transbaikalia is naked! First you need to arm your troops, for example, Domna will not fly a year like a blink of an eye, which were rearmamented from beech and spring to ps. armed with frank trash, the materiel is constantly failing ...
        Or does someone think that Russia is primarily attacked from the West? I doubt very much as an acting officer. We do not perceive the threat from China. Such a feeling, following the steps of the government (complete exposure of the border, the lack of development programs and financing of the territory), that we will soon hand over a bunch of territory to friendly China.
        1. wheel
          wheel April 30 2013 00: 49
          +1
          This I know. But the fact that the main production of cars took place a long time ago, just shows that it was time to change them.
          About the fact that Transbaikalia should think naked in the Russian General Staff.
          The President of Belarus is responsible for his army. Therefore, if he believes that it is necessary to decommission old planes and find new ones in their place, I will support him.
          And yet, you should be glad that the ally (even though he is poor and constantly asks for help) looks after them all and, with his modest abilities, tries to somehow keep them in a ready state
      2. eagle11
        eagle11 April 28 2013 14: 33
        +1
        By the way, in the order of educational program. The last Su-27C and F-15C, were delivered to the Air Force of the Russian Federation and the USA, respectively, in the same year. True, the Americans have more resources (but they also fly more) and the culture of service is higher. And if the Americans. aircraft are disabled due to re-equipment on the raptor, then we stupidly cut.
  7. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov April 27 2013 09: 06
    0
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Plus a couple of dozen Iskanders and a couple of dozen Topols did not hurt either.


    Iskander, yes, but Topol, definitely not. Belarus is a nuclear-free country. And why is Topol there at the forefront of the struggle against capitalism.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 27 2013 09: 28
      +4
      Quote: VohaAhov
      But Topol, definitely not. Belarus is a nuclear-free country.

      Why not? The old man has already told "some barkers" that there will be all kinds of sanctions against Belarus, so Belarus can regain the status of a nuclear power. Clever woman!
    2. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus April 27 2013 15: 17
      +2
      Belarus is a "nuclear-free country", the old man said so, there are no nuclear missiles, but we will not wake up anything either, we will preserve everything as it is, you never know, suddenly there is nowhere to store the potatoes.
  8. Spike
    Spike April 27 2013 09: 57
    +3
    We would have such an Old Man.
  9. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 April 27 2013 10: 19
    +4
    The S-300 must be protected with a "shell".
    A systematic approach to air defense and integration with RA is the key to the security of the customs union.
  10. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov April 27 2013 10: 21
    0
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: VohaAhov
    But Topol, definitely not. Belarus is a nuclear-free country.

    Why not? The old man has already told "some barkers" that there will be all kinds of sanctions against Belarus, so Belarus can regain the status of a nuclear power. Clever woman!


    Why should it become a nuclear power, if, according to the treaty, it is under the Russian "nuclear umbrella"
  11. gland
    gland April 27 2013 12: 16
    +3
    Ah yes Old Man !!! Ah yes handsome! we will help as much as we can!
  12. ankh-andrej
    ankh-andrej April 27 2013 12: 21
    -2
    "He added that Belarus also needs" a couple of dozen Su-27 or MiG-29 aircraft "
    So I would take for myself the SU-30s that he had on modernization from India. And then they dragged on the story with them, everything cannot be attached in any way.
    1. wheel
      wheel April 27 2013 15: 25
      +1
      why take them ??? so that after 5 years they begin to file and run again to Russia asking for new planes? it is better to buy new ones and forget about such a problem on 20
      1. ankh-andrej
        ankh-andrej April 27 2013 16: 06
        +1
        Quote: kolesik
        so that after 5 years they begin to file

        Why would they fall in such a short time? The Su-27s are still functioning, and the 30s should suddenly fall in.
        1. wheel
          wheel April 30 2013 00: 37
          0
          Do you know where these used planes are from and the year of their production? I don’t think that they were operated and maintained there at the highest level. Even after modernization, they will not be able to be called new aircraft. + To all that has been said, I can add that our army is also not financed 100% of her needs. Draw conclusions
  13. Die-hard
    Die-hard April 27 2013 12: 37
    0
    And what kind of S-300 breed are they given? P? PS? AT?
    1. wheel
      wheel April 27 2013 15: 26
      +1
      used, second-hand. the rest is not important)
  14. v53993
    v53993 April 27 2013 12: 47
    +1
    According to him, only with the new Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation a positive response was received on the delivery of several S-300 divisions.


    And the old one most likely offered stools.
  15. avkeys
    avkeys April 27 2013 16: 43
    +1
    Quote: botur
    then we will be forced to bring to NATO a balance of power issue in Central Europe

    But do not give a damn about their discussion? They may soon ask Russia and Belarus not to arm themselves at all or to buy shitty NATO weapons of old models so as not to upset the balance of forces, otherwise our weapons are now a threat to them.
  16. Kostya pedestrian
    Kostya pedestrian April 27 2013 17: 10
    0
    Nevertheless, Russian weapons are more reliable than their Western counterparts, and, from a design point of view, more attractive with its thunderous appearance.

    Well done Russians, who protect their sales markets, at the same time help their neighbors. Since the USSR would have turned around, the Russian military-industrial complex would have had no price.
  17. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr April 27 2013 18: 05
    +1
    Despite the financial and economic crisis, the state primarily cares about its army.

    Armed forces of NATO states are considered as potential opponents of the Belarusian Armed Forces. An independent armed conflict with them is not planned, but only in alliance with the Russian forces and other CSTO states.

    “We intend to continue to consider the issues necessary to strengthen the defense capabilities of our Belarusian colleagues and brothers” - Shoigu.

    According to Shoigu, Belarus and Russia have a long-standing strong relationship between the defense ministries. In particular, there is a "joint program for the creation of a unified air defense, which must be reliable and thorough, to protect the air borders and spaces of the Union State."

    “In addition, there is a large program for military-technical cooperation. All this is done with an open mind, as is inherent in friends and neighbors,” the Russian minister stressed.

    Polish tantrum is just around the corner! ..
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 27 2013 21: 10
      -2
      Shoigu is an ordinary schemer and careerist.
      1. antidote
        antidote April 28 2013 09: 27
        0
        And our Krasnoyarsk man is a well-known advocate of gay European values. He in our community as Borovoy, everything that is bad for Russia is good for the Krasnoyarsk man. Obviously not a Siberian, but an oppositionist from Moscow night clubs, such as 69
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk April 28 2013 14: 06
          0
          The Ministry of Emergencies works through the anus, this was demonstrated in Krymsk in the accident at the secondary school and so on.
  18. piotr534
    piotr534 April 28 2013 05: 12
    +1
    Let my friend disagree with you. Shoigu is an honest person, which proved by working in various posts. Sensible and successful leader. And Putin knew this very well when he appointed him minister.