Marines are experiencing promising combat gear

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Marines are experiencing promising combat gearOn the basis of the reconnaissance unit of the Pskov airborne assault formation of the Airborne Forces (Airborne Forces), military tests of the prospective combat equipment “Warrior” are conducted.

The approbation of the perspective airborne airborne equipment segment has been carried out under military conditions since March 2013, and aims to study the effectiveness of its elements in relation to the specific actions of parachute assault, reconnaissance and special units of the "winged infantry".

Paratroopers test the "Warrior" in the field (at field exits), during the conduct of company tactical exercises, including the practical landing of personnel with elements of new equipment from aircraft and helicopters of military transport aviation.

In relation to the main combat specialties of the Airborne Forces, various sets of equipment are being tested, designed for the mechanic-driver, the gunner-operator of an airborne assault vehicle, reconnaissance, sniper, gunner, etc. in tactical level.

“Warrior” is a new Russian military outfit of military personnel that combines modern small arms, effective protection kits against various damaging factors on the battlefield, reconnaissance, communication and navigation equipment, all in all about 10 of various subsystems.
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  1. gorkoxnumx
    +5
    April 16 2013 10: 01
    I’d rather go to the troops !!!
    1. Nevsky
      +6
      April 16 2013 10: 07
      How much can you test ... ??? To the troops, immediately ... Since 2010 I have been reading the news for the new uniform of a 21st century soldier in the Russian Federation am
      It was already 2 winters and two summers ....
      1. +2
        April 16 2013 10: 15
        Or maybe it’s not worth it if it’s not done in two years. And then again Yudashkin will be screwed up. And in general, someone can clearly say whether it is worth it or not ("Warrior"). Preferably without Ragozinsky PR and mantras about the absence of world analogues. By the way, "the absence of world analogues" has various reasons, including the "elusive Joe" variant.
        1. +3
          April 16 2013 10: 41
          Clearly, like a skeptic? Good. The insides of the form, for example armor plates, are made perfectly, the weight is reduced, the helmet is redone for our conditions, etc. But the materials leave much to be desired, the digital filling in those processes lags behind foreign samples. There are also problems with ergonomics.
          What is the positive? They fix it and try not to waste money on a pig in a poke, so it took so long.
          1. +2
            April 16 2013 10: 47
            Actually, I’m talking about the same thing in the army, and after a year when you change the minister, you can shout, and the bastards and enemies can bring everything to mind first, meaning reasonable readiness, it’s clear that there is no limit to perfection, but it can still be early to the troops.
            1. +7
              April 16 2013 11: 05
              Of course it’s early, but under Serdyuk they even introduced a normal helmet and unloading, otherwise there was absolutely shame
  2. AndreyAB
    +3
    April 16 2013 10: 08
    I wonder how many tests will pass? They talked about the new equipment ten years ago, and did Yudashkin have a hand in its creation? But seriously, it's high time.
  3. Warchief
    -26
    April 16 2013 10: 09
    It remains only to remake the Airborne Forces in airborne troops, to eradicate unnecessary evil in the form of paratroopers and rejoice.
    1. Nevsky
      +3
      April 16 2013 10: 15
      Warchief do you enjoy shitting everywhere?
      1. Warchief
        -3
        April 16 2013 10: 19
        I express my opinion, that's all.
        1. +1
          April 16 2013 10: 24
          are you really so stupid that you have such an opinion?
          1. Warchief
            -6
            April 16 2013 10: 25
            Can you prove the need for paratrooper units? Then go ahead.
            1. pavlo007
              -10
              April 16 2013 11: 02
              Why would he think and prove something? He chooses with his heart, loves Putin and happens to be a Lube group. This is quite enough.

              PS I noticed that in order to reach the general epaulets that in life, that on this site you need to have about the same brain and say about the same things :)
              1. +5
                April 16 2013 11: 15
                Probably you by yourself, judge others laughing You need a friend to the hospital, to the hospital. Although this is not treated, I sympathize with you. Therefore, I am telling the truth in person, not bustling. You are not a tenant. laughing hi
                1. Warchief
                  -5
                  April 16 2013 11: 16
                  Everything is treated. And will you ever be cured of a red infection.
                  1. +3
                    April 16 2013 11: 47
                    Quote: Warchief
                    red infection.

                    Judging by the symptoms, then most likely you are sick with chickenpox. I sincerely sympathize. Should you also turn to a venereologist, syphilis is possible, it also rains. laughing
                    1. 0
                      April 16 2013 15: 38
                      [Sirocco] Warchief] red plague.
                      Judging by the symptoms, then most likely you are sick with chickenpox. I sincerely sympathize. Should you also contact a venereologist, syphilis is possible, it also rains laughing - Yes, no rather he has flatulence and mental !!!! wassat belay laughing
              2. +2
                April 16 2013 12: 16
                Oh my God, I’ll cry just now. the poor humiliated were not at fault for anything. And here it is not so at all. that you are talking nonsense.
                organize a group of offended and write to administrators and moderators. Maybe they will understand you!
              3. 0
                April 16 2013 15: 35
                PS I noticed that in order to reach the general shoulder straps, that in life, that on this site you need to have about the same brain and say about the same things: - take my shoulder straps I do not mind !!! wink Apparently you got around the ranks both in life and on our site-- take, take mine, I'm not greedy !!!! YesI'll draw myself !!!! laughing Yes
                1. pavlo007
                  0
                  April 16 2013 16: 00
                  Thank you not - in life did not pass :)
              4. 0
                April 16 2013 17: 25
                Blah blah blah again.
                Yes, I respect Putin. But that’s not the point. I like that and Lube, but I'm listening to something completely different!

                say about the same thing

                And you, as I understand it, are trying to impress everyone with their originality ... even if it is far from common sense ???

                It's just that everything you write is easily interrupted by facts in practice.
            2. +2
              April 16 2013 12: 15
              landing in the rear of mobile, well-trained and armed units is a big deal! sometimes even a guarantee of victory.
              Also. if you pay attention to the hostilities, where the Russian Federation took part in the last 15-20 years, you will see that the Airborne Forces sometimes pulled the situation. So it was in Chechnya, it was like 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX and it will ALWAYS be so. They are a level better than the rest. I'm not talking about special forces, etc. Different tasks!

              By the way, justify your point of view then? Who will perform the tasks of the Airborne Forces ?? forward, but in fact you are the only one who is unsubstantiated here!
              1. pavlo007
                0
                April 16 2013 20: 50
                Tell me stupid, where in Chechnya a large-scale parachute landing with equipment was carried out. It is very interesting to me. If you notice, then it is about the large-scale use of the parachute-landing method.
    2. +8
      April 16 2013 10: 41
      Quote: Warchief
      It remains only to remake the Airborne Forces in airborne troops, to eradicate unnecessary evil in the form of paratroopers and rejoice.

      Is your photo on an avatar? Nasalis larvatus is a species of primates from the subfamily of thin-bodied monkeys in the monkey family. Distributed exclusively on the island of Borneo, where it inhabits coastal regions and valleys. Now the question is, how can a resident of the coast of Borneo understand the structure and purposes of the arms of the armed forces of the Russian Federation?
      1. Grishka100watt
        +2
        April 16 2013 12: 52
        Can Borneo understand the structure and mission of the armed forces of the Russian Armed Forces?

        Intelligently you smeared it)
    3. Zlaya makaka
      0
      April 17 2013 15: 52
      By the way, the statement is not so meaningless. In the USSR, and in the Russian Federation, there was not a single real conflict requiring "a landing deep in the enemy's rear in order to capture important military-economic regions, disorganize state and military administration, destroy nuclear weapons and major military facilities."

      And then, just to organize a corridor for landing an operational landing at an operational depth (150 km.), According to the norms of the 80s, it was necessary to attract the forces of 3-4 regiments of front-line aviation and deliver 2-3 nuclear strikes. Without this, the enemy’s defense would destroyоmost of the landing before landing. Plus, covering the gathering point before the operation and the landing after the drop. This is another 3-4 air regiment at each stage.

      Well, where to get now such forces for one operation? And who will allow tactical nuclear strikes? And I doubt that in a conflict with NATO, the Russian Air Force will be able to seize air superiority. Suffice it to say that the United States already has a fifth-generation production aircraft - the F-22A, while the Russian Federation has only a prototype so far. And it is still unknown whether the PAK-FA will go into production or whether it will suffer the fate of Object 195, which our industry simply did not "pull".
  4. +6
    April 16 2013 10: 09
    Something in the photo is not "combining modern small arms", even the simplest Kalimator.
    1. Warchief
      -13
      April 16 2013 10: 17
      There are no weapons there, only some poor crap without balanced automation and a flawed receiver.
      1. +3
        April 16 2013 10: 52
        Well, I wouldn’t say so sharply, in fact, where is the box, in this case the calimator is not put on the box.
  5. UFO
    +3
    April 16 2013 10: 24
    Quote: Warchief
    I express my opinion, that's all.

    And "your opinion" is always in the form of criticism and frank banter? Construct from the nest in short supply? negative
  6. mojohed
    +2
    April 16 2013 10: 45
    In the photo, apparently some fighters are simply captured. The author of the article might not be in the place of military trials, but take a photo from somewhere. The main thing here is information, and not nitpicking to photographic materials.
    I believe that whatever the Ratnik equipment is, it is still better than what the troops use. The guys in the exercises are still wearing Soviet armor from the Afghan war. About the body kit of the machine - there is a controversial issue. It will be necessary - it is possible to weigh both AK-74M and AKM with everything that is possible. Picatinny rails are available with mountings on our barrels. And there is a bunch of body kits.
    A modern shooting complex - but is it necessary? Isn't it just another money laundering from the budget? Why is the AK-74 or AKM worse than the same Galila, M-4, Ji-36 and other comparable weapons? Is the increased rate of fire and hit accuracy really so important? Are "modern complexes" higher than the old ones by a few percent?
    1. +3
      April 16 2013 10: 59
      Yes, it’s clear that the photo is for entourage, but it hurts my eyes. And with regards to AK, since we are investing money in the complex, then the barrel should be for each fighter (it’s clear that he’s not a conscript), and the professional and AK will bring it, the main thing is that there is such an opportunity at the level of support.
    2. 0
      April 16 2013 13: 06
      Yes, and we’re doing a good job with AK and shoot accurately. Here are new bulletproof vests and helmets made of polymers with unloading, oh, how they wouldn’t hurt, otherwise you’re tired of buying at your own expense.
  7. UFO
    +1
    April 16 2013 10: 45
    Quote: Warchief
    I express my opinion, that's all.

    And "your opinion" is always in the form of criticism and frank banter? Construct from the nest in short supply? negative
  8. +1
    April 16 2013 10: 48
    Quote: Warchief
    only some wretched crap

    This wretched crap is the universally recognized best example of small arms in the world, and I personally would choose it for the war.
    1. Warchief
      -7
      April 16 2013 10: 53
      Quote: igor36
      generally recognized

      By whom?
      Quote: igor36
      the best example of small arms in the world

      Not a fact.
      Quote: igor36
      I personally would have chosen him for the war.

      Obviously, your war will be in Europe, with armada of disposable self-propelled turret guns T-72/80, tactical nuclear weapons, disposable conscripts in disposable aluminum boxes without air conditioners and a huge number of disposable paratroopers.
      1. +2
        April 16 2013 11: 09
        Quote: Warchief
        Obviously, your war will be in Europe, with armada of disposable self-propelled turret guns T-72/80, tactical nuclear weapons, disposable conscripts in disposable aluminum boxes without air conditioners and a huge number of disposable paratroopers.

        Have you ever served in the army?
        1. Warchief
          -2
          April 16 2013 11: 12
          A jacket. I was at the training camp. Problems?
          1. +1
            April 16 2013 11: 28
            Quote: Warchief
            A jacket. Was at the training camp

            So did not serve ...
            Quote: Warchief
            Problems?

            You have problems, never served in the army, talk about the quality of weapons ...
            You go serve, feel with your hands, use weapons (tanks, assault rifles, etc.), then talk. And then a jacket, but climbed into a strategist ...
            1. Warchief
              -5
              April 16 2013 11: 32
              Quote: Rebus
              use weapons (tanks, assault rifles, etc.),

              Thanks, I used it. Since then, I no longer have the desire to climb into a BMD killed by conscripts and shoot from a killed ax74.
              1. +3
                April 16 2013 11: 53
                Quote: Warchief
                Thanks, I used it. Since then, I no longer have the desire to climb into a BMD killed by conscripts and shoot from a killed ax74.

                And you thought that a person who joined the army for two weeks would be given new equipment and an automatic machine from the assembly line? In no country in the world, for the collection of reservists, do they use new equipment and weapons.
      2. 0
        April 16 2013 13: 57
        And where did the monkey photo go ?? A lot of negativity, and not the smartest
      3. +1
        April 16 2013 15: 31
        By whom?

        that you generally laugh apparently. nothing that the AK-47 on the state flag of Mozambique? Yes, this is not an advanced European country. But the fact that Kalash is issued under license in almost 100 countries should give you a hint about its recognition. The fact that amers in Afghanistan with AK are running, also says a lot.

        Picture by the way from our portal!
        In general, if you seriously take what you write (in other words, if you are not a lousy troll), then I no longer see the point of even reading your comments. Blacklist - the place is there for you and I propose to do it to everyone who is sick of such nonsense!
  9. pavlo007
    +4
    April 16 2013 10: 53
    Guys, let’s not pounce on people who say absolutely logical things, but argue their position (if in a state of course).
    Now regarding the Airborne Forces. Nobody argues that it is necessary to keep their name, blue berets, bricks on their heads and "Nobody but us!" This is all absolutely correct - the elite of the units and the motivation of the personnel are very much the result of the spirit of the unit, its combat past and the fact that the recruits are hammered in from the first day - "You are the best, you can do everything!" It is only the Putin-Serdyukov scum that is trying to destroy the spirit of the army by constant reorganization (a lot of units with a military past were disbanded and new faceless units were formed in their place).

    Talk about something else. Already many times, both I and others have said that the airborne forces in the current official concept are THINGS ABSOLUTELY meaningless. Well, it’s not possible in modern warfare to land an airborne division by airborne division with equipment. This is a deadly pointless risk, since the air defense will still not be completely suppressed and I doubt that someone in their right mind will order such a landing.
    Hence, obviously, ANY cardboard BMDs, at least 3, at least 4, at least 34, are absolutely unnecessary in such quantities, since they impose weight restrictions that NEVER ALLOW THE CREATION OF A FULLY PROTECTED PROTECTED MACHINE. All these senseless attempts should be stopped for a long time and we must give an account to ourselves that in the modern war the Airborne Forces are elite infantry (like the grenadiers in the 19th century - they didn’t already have grenades then), or at best, airborne troops.
    Yes, no one disputes that the achievements on parachute landing of equipment is a very valuable thing, but it’s just complete madness to leave the BMD a regular means of airborne units. Such a technique is needed in small quantities for special operations, and not the fact that it is. The regular means of the airborne units should be ordinary BMP and armored personnel carriers.

    PS The brother-in-law fought in Afghanistan - and he and all his friends believe that the putug with the mega-aluminum impenetrable aircraft BMD is nonsense. Landing, by the way, BMD in Afghanistan could not stand - really cardboard.
    Think - it makes sense to make a car for parachute landing, underestimating armor protection, if it NEVER will be parachuted.

    PPS Now they will scream that I’m a spy of gondolysis rice :))))))))))))))
    1. Warchief
      -5
      April 16 2013 11: 00
      I am pleasantly surprised that on this site there are people adequately assessing the situation, and not red-faced with no equivalent и why are you trying to attack the holy things, how can you not bricks break barracks do not wash cantiks do not beat off.
      1. Nevsky
        +4
        April 16 2013 11: 06
        Warchief here you put "-", and pavlo007 put "+". A person correctly, without insults and clichés about his army, reasoned his position normally.
        1. Warchief
          -7
          April 16 2013 11: 07
          It’s as if karmadrochestvo means something.
    2. 0
      April 16 2013 11: 09
      I completely agree with you. Airborne Forces - definitely leave the name, and create on their basis something like elite units (such as rangers).
    3. 0
      April 16 2013 17: 17
      "LOGICAL STATEMENTS" of Comrade Warchief (chief):
      There are no weapons there, only some poor crap without balanced automation and a flawed receiver.
      - said about the Kalashnikov assault rifle. If you think this phrase is logical, then this is sad. Of course, in its original form, the AK-47 or AK-74 becomes obsolete by itself. The accuracy of shooting leaves much to be desired. But it is full of resources and resources for modernization. And they improve accuracy and the same calimators set without problems. Picatinny rail (which you mentioned about) has not gone anywhere.

      It remains only to remake the Airborne Forces in airborne troops, to eradicate unnecessary evil in the form of paratroopers and rejoice.
      - This is a moot point. If we take local operations, like Georgia, then the landing is relevant. It goes without saying that landing on the coast of California, for example, will be difficult. But again, the landing takes place after the suppression of air defense systems, the supply of interference with the support of the fleet, etc. And given that in the event of a war, let’s say with the same states it is unlikely to reach the landing, the Airborne Forces have the right to life in the form in which they now exist. The same Syria, where such troops can show themselves from the best side.

      Obviously, your war will be in Europe, with armada of disposable self-propelled turret guns T-72/80

      Since when is the T-72/80 disposable tower thrower ???? again, Syria, where the T-72s, which have not really been modernized, are holding the attacks of the Vampire RPG, and this is a serious anti-tank complex. Tandem charges can hit almost any armor. Nevertheless, the tankers of Syria are satisfied. And they argue this is clearly not from the ceiling!
      And for example, our t-72s are being modernized (albeit long-suffering). Equipped with anti-cumulative agents, etc. I think you are well aware of the world-famous English challenger tank with its top-secret composite armor Chopham. and so there was a case when (if I am not mistaken) RPG-7 crashed into his forehead (!) !. This is not to mention the stern or side!

      I wrote all this offhand. So write, argue. I bet hi
      1. Warchief
        0
        April 17 2013 12: 17
        Quote: silver_roman
        Since when is the T-72/80 disposable turret gun ????

        Since then, as Cheburashka thought of making an automatic loader and a tank rack.
    4. 0
      April 16 2013 17: 55
      Quote: pavlo007
      Well, it’s not possible in modern warfare to land an airborne division by airborne division with equipment. This is a deadly pointless risk
      The whole war is a mortal risk, according to your logic, and the landing of a Marine division from the sea will be the same "senseless risk." By the way, for Okinawa, the Yankees practically put a division at the end of World War II, they really needed an island for basing the B-29 squadrons, the fleet completed the task. These songs from the repertoire "Why do we need it" are performed here not only by the Airborne Forces. No, and it is impossible to create absolutely invulnerable equipment, any thick-skinned armor can penetrate, and the heaviest infantry fighting vehicle is not a bomb shelter. As for the BMD, these are unique machines whose strength lies in speed, maneuverability, and, most importantly, mobility. Parachute landing behind enemy lines, only part of the capabilities of the Airborne Forces, troops can be quickly transferred during airfield unloading, parachute landing can also be over their territory, in hard-to-reach places, finally, who told you that the enemy's air defense will not be previously destroyed, neutralized, that Does a particular adversary even have it? The very fact of the possibility of landing in the rear is already a deterrent for the enemy, like the watch of missiles in the mines, which may never be used. It will be necessary, and the men will parachute into Alaska, let them know. You are not "spies of the rice gondolysis", but you pour water on someone else's mill, where they envy and fear the capabilities of our airborne forces, the best in the world. They dream, bastards, and we will destroy it.
      1. pavlo007
        0
        April 16 2013 20: 44
        Tell me, are you able to understand the difference between mortal risk and ABSOLUTE IMPOSSIBILITY in the modern war of landing large compounds in exactly the parachute way, eh?
        What are you dragging the marines to? You are aware of the over-the-horizon landing of the first throw, which should be done by the mistralians so beloved by putinoids.
        If you think that in modern conditions it is necessary to snuggle up to the shore with a snout, open the ramp and shout Uraaaaa !!!!! on machine guns, then I'm sorry, you are not quite an adequate person, and this is what you offer in the performance for the Airborne Forces.

        Once again for those who are in the tank or slaughtered themselves in the head with a brick:
        1. In modern warfare, we WILL NOT BE ABLE to fully conquer the Lordship in the air over the territory controlled by the enemy, as there are mobile air defense systems that simply will wait in the wings. But for them, a dozen IL-476 and several thousand people will be so sweet piece that after that you can not even live. You can recall that even the grinded Serbs shot down stealth (oh yes, I forgot that for a patriot it’s stealth .... in general .... Il 476 with a landing force shooting their portholes)
        2. If the Lordship in the Air is absolute, then in this case the troops can simply be delivered by the landing method.

        Try to explain now - why plant the airborne airborne on cardboard BMD if the parachute method cannot be applied on a large scale. As WWII showed, all major landing operations except Cretan ended in failure, even in the latter there were such losses that Hitler forbade them to continue.
        1. +1
          April 17 2013 01: 03
          Airborne operations, pavlo007, have been and will continue to be carried out, if you are not aware, they were also carried out during the war in Iraq by coalition forces, precisely when air supremacy was achieved. You don't need to talk about "cardboard" BMDs, listen to you, so what is already proposed is called simple infantry, and equipment for motorized riflemen. The fact that the Airborne Forces are forced to perform not quite their functions, but they do, once again shows their high functionality and versatility. Parachute landing is just one of the possible ways of using our airborne forces, and the equipment for the airborne forces is specialized for air transportation, precisely for those operational tasks that are being solved by the troops. I don't know if you served in the army, but in any case, you should not consider yourself smarter than many worthy officers and generals of the Airborne Forces, who created troops and developed strategies and tactics for their use. And, please forget about the bricks on your head, this is a worn-out cliché, fools have nothing to do in special operations, fighters do not need a head for this.
          1. pavlo007
            0
            April 18 2013 12: 54
            I’m just in the know, you have seen enough of the program "I Serve the Soviet Union" (good, by the way there was a program)
            All that you wrote blah blah blah for draftees, the reality is somewhat different.
            Especially for you I repeat - never a large-scale parachute assault landing with the EQUIPMENT was not used - neither in Afghanistan, nor in Iraq, nor in Vietnam. Everywhere, airborne troops were used as airborne compounds.
            I won’t repeat, you still either don’t read or don’t understand, but the question is not what the Airborne Forces need / do not need, but whether there is a need to equip the Airborne Forces with 100% airborne landing gear.

            PS Voroshilov and Mehlis also believed that the cavalry would decide the outcome of the second world attack in close formation. It’s also beautiful, like a BMD landing by parachute (I really like it), but absolutely not vital.
  10. Nevsky
    +2
    April 16 2013 13: 00
    I didn’t think that I would ever quote myself laughing I apologize. The equipment goes to the troops! good

    Quote: Nevsky
    How much can I test... ??? To the troops, immediately ... Since 2010 I have been reading the news for the new uniform of a 21st century soldier in the Russian Federation am
    It was already 2 winters and two summers ....



    We look:

    1. 0
      April 16 2013 15: 55
      Shcha, a thin-bodied monkey will come running from the island of Borneo and will ruin everything !!! wink laughing wassat
      1. Warchief
        0
        April 17 2013 12: 02
        I ran in. Fraud.
  11. +2
    April 16 2013 13: 02
    The detachments of the internal troops would give us a run-in of the "Ratnik" without a training ground, there is where to test it.
  12. 0
    April 16 2013 17: 24
    Quote: pavlo007
    Why would he think and prove something? He chooses with his heart, loves Putin and happens to be a Lube group. This is quite enough.

    I have an ambiguous attitude towards Putin, and I do not like everything in the work of the Lyube group. So what?
  13. +3
    April 16 2013 17: 43
    The warrior is good, one thing confuses a small area of ​​ceramic armor plate, protects approximately the area of ​​the heart, not the full part of the chest, and the stomach, sides are open to hit, protection only from fragments. The helmet has a smaller head protection area than on old helmets. It is very pleasing that the kit almost completely protects against splinters, in wars most of the splinters hit.
  14. mihasik
    +1
    April 16 2013 23: 45
    We need a large batch for testing, as a charity to deliver to Syria. There will be direct test results!))
    1. Zlaya makaka
      +1
      April 17 2013 16: 09
      Quote: mihasik
      We need a large batch for testing, as a charity to deliver to Syria. There will be direct test results!))


      Remember, in the last century, the Soviet Union Arabs put a bunch of modern, at that time, weapons. And where is the result? All profiled. You propose to do the same now: instead of dressing your strangers? Moreover, these strangers have repeatedly proved that they are not able to use weapons normally. Again, throw a bunch of folk money down the drain?
  15. +2
    April 25 2013 02: 18
    The splinterproof suit is good, but the armor plate is small