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Moscow-Washington: points of non-contact

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Moscow-Washington: points of non-contactRussia continues to search for its stable place in the new world coordinate system


The peculiarity of Russian-American relations is the abundance of verbal reasoning. They are complemented by semi-scientific concepts, analytical and prognostic delights, propaganda tides of optimism and pessimistic ebbs. All this is against the background of a small concrete and practical business content of this relationship.

A striking contrast is represented by, say, the relations of Washington and Beijing: major business factors dominate here, against which political political differences are fading. This is particularly striking when the United States of America and Russia are violently seizing on the propaganda field on issues such as the “Magnitsky law” or the “Dima Yakovlev law”. Should the two powers, on whose understanding international security depends to a large extent, exhaust themselves in such lists?

This is undoubtedly a relic of the “cold war”, remnants of the past in the consciousness of history elite, which was born and grew up in the years when we were ready to "fight for peace until there is no stone left." In the USA, where there are more political old-timers and the conditions for their longevity are better, the squires of that era are more numerous, but our younger and cocky are in a desire to assert themselves, although the silences are not enough.

During the “great confrontation”, when the USSR and the USA essentially divided the whole world into two camps and, puffing like two sumo wrestlers, tried to push one another out of the cherished circle, everything was clear and understandable.
Both superpowers knew and followed the rules of the game. They understood that a direct confrontation between them was unacceptable and carefully avoided such situations. I remember how once Henry Kissinger took Andrei Gromyko by the tie with his favorite gesture, took him aside, and said in his ear: “You left Cuba after the missile crisis, but left the mechanized brigade there. You understand that we will never strike a blow at this brigade, because shedding the blood of your soldiers means starting a world war! ”

There were a lot of crises, and in their scale they were cooler, but the sides showed accuracy and restraint. Perhaps the only time we converged head-on during the Korean War was when our pilots on MiG-15 jet fighters successfully repulsed the Americans. But the repeated suppression of attempts by US Air Force aircraft to penetrate into our airspace for serious conflicts were not even considered. “The intruder went to the side of the sea!”, - usually the public was notified when the plane was shot down. Washington kept mum because it understood everything, like that cat “whose meat it ate”.

Political leaders never intended to seriously use atomic weapon, and with the growth of nuclear arsenals, the main concern was the limitation of strategic offensive arms.

It was during the years of the "cold war" that the direct telephone line of the Kremlin-White House was established in order to avoid any accident that could become a spark for an explosion. Yes, we were enemies and preferred to face off in the “third world”, pulling the rope to our side, but avoiding a direct collision. There was a mutually recognized "military parity", which dictated such a line of conduct.

The world changed dramatically in the late eighties and early nineties, when the Soviet Union collapsed, the Warsaw Pact was dissolved, and Russia fell into political oblivion, losing orientation in its surrounding space. Our missiles were aimed to nowhere, around from all sides we were surrounded by "partners", we managed to give the US more than 50 thousand square kilometers of the Bering Sea, almost gave up the southern Kurils. Our weight, as a subject of world politics, was reduced to a minimum.

From that terrible time, we will never find our stable place in the new world coordinate system. We are still alive reflexes of a great power, but its muscles have already been lost.

The memorable turn of the plane with Foreign Minister Yevgeny Primakov from the US coast back to Russia, theatrical cast of the Airborne Forces battalion on Pristina, when the Westerners solved their tasks in the Balkans, completely ignoring Moscow - signs of our great atavism and real impotence.

The United States in those years did whatever they wanted. The main deception on their part is a great deception: promising not to expand NATO to the East as a sign of gratitude for our withdrawal from Eastern and Central Europe, they faithlessly involved there all the Balts by the 2004 year, as well as the Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Bulgaria, and even began to drag Georgia and Ukraine. But this is their signature style. It is clearly seen in the example of Western actions in Kosovo, in Iraq and in Afghanistan.

US state selfishness is the norm of their behavior on the world stage. After the events of September 11, the American political establishment, frightened by the loss of common sense, insisted on the unilateral withdrawal of the US from the ABM Treaty by the year 2001, which sharply spoiled the atmosphere in relations between our countries.

Renowned American economist and political scientist Paul Craig Roberts in 2009, noted: "It is hardly possible to call American policy towards Russia responsible and cautious, it is irresponsible and aggressive."

Washington does not understand the principle of real partnership equality at all, because during its existence the United States has never built its relations with anyone on this basis. All of their counterparts, they certainly consider lower in rank and weight. This historical legacy leaves an indelible imprint on the mentality of their political elite. And even if the person in the US presidency is a person with a broader perspective on the world and historical perspectives, the establishment will inevitably play the role of inhibiting ballast. So it was with A. Lincoln, F. Roosevelt, J. Kennedy. Now the White House is not sitting the most fierce hawk, and quite sane Barack Obama. He, as we were informed, in particular, was against the adoption of the “Magnitsky law”, but in the USA the head of state is not omnipotent, he cannot overcome the resistance of the congress, the heaviest inertial body of the American political machine. We must reckon with these features of the United States.

Russia began to find itself only with the arrival of Vladimir Putin in the Kremlin, and this became especially noticeable during his second presidential term. The most significant milestone on this path was his speech in Munich 10 February 2007, when he publicly gave an objective assessment of the actions of the West in the international arena and clearly outlined Russia's independent positions. It was so unusual that in the US they started talking about the beginning of a new phase of the “cold war”. But in Russia itself, many did not understand their president: a large part of our political establishment, linked by its personal financial and business relations with the United States, began to look for a new center of power. Talk about a possible split in the domestic elite fell. All this, taken together, is reflected in the foreign policy of Russia, which is more inherent in a reactive nature than the quality of a well-thought-out, systemic concept. On the one hand, we can resolutely and firmly repulse the Georgian adventure in South Ossetia, actively supported by Washington and the West as a whole, but on the other, give the green light to the US and Western aggression in Libya.

Let's be frank: there is no solid foundation for relations between Russia and the United States now, so there is no reason to fully talk about normal partnership.

The United States is twice as big as our population, 10 times the size of GDP, 30 times the military budget, they have gone far ahead in the development of scientific and technological potential.

We are equal de jure as independent sovereign states, and we have a weighty nuclear-rocket fist that, for the time being, guarantees the inviolability of our sovereignty. We have no ideological and political incompatibility as in Soviet times, but this in itself does not give any geopolitical advantages in the competitive world.

Economic relations between Russia and the United States are extremely poorly developed, given the size and potentials of our countries. Russian exports to the United States consist mainly of oil and oil products, since the Americans own almost a third of all investments in our oil industry. We export metals, fertilizers, precious stones and other small things to the American market. In a good year, scraping 25-30 billions of dollars. We buy three times less in cost: vehicles, some machinery and, to my shame, food. Among US foreign trade partners, Russia ranks 23. That's the whole "foundation."

For many years now we have been loudly calling on American investors to come to Russia, but the result is a penny. In addition to the fuel and energy block, a pair of car assembly plants, and small bridgeheads in the banking and insurance sector, we do not have American capital.

And how many times the movers and shakers of American business have thrown into the eyes of our shouts in international forums: “That's when you yourself will invest your money in your own economy, then maybe we will come!”.

But in today's world everything is decided in the economy - this is the main battlefield, where victories are forged and the defeated are trampled under foot.

The current Russian-American relations are full of numerous conflict zones, sometimes of secondary or even trivial nature. The American ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul 19 March, during his stay in St. Petersburg, met with the local community. He was bombarded with questions about difficulties in Russian-American relations, and he replied: “For me, there is the topic of Syria, there is the topic of adoption, but there is no topic of apartments and houses of your senators and deputies in the United States. We are an open society. ” And then, angry, he added: “Two plus two is four. If we cannot agree on this, we cannot agree on anything! ”

Let's go through these "conflict" zones.

The problem of missile defense. Americans are obsessed with the idea of ​​making their country completely invulnerable to any type of weapon that a state or group of states could hypothetically use against the United States. The late President Ronald Reagan took hold of this idea, but he infected the whole country with it. Since then, victorious Americans on movie screens have beaten all aliens with their miracle weapons, saving themselves and their way of life. But asteroids flying around the earth inspire Americans with the same horror as other "non-advanced" earthlings. More than 30 years have passed since the birth of the Star Wars idea, hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent, and the end result is as far as the horizon for a person lost in the desert. There is still no solution to the problem of global defense, and it is unlikely to be found in the light of improved means of attack. History experience teaches: the means of attack always leads the defenses. Our military experts and experts of the Institute of the USA and Canada believe that it is not worth getting stuck in the debate about missile defense. The devil is not so terrible as he is painted.

Syria problem. For some reason, the United States believes that the "unconstructive" position of Russia prevents the solution of the crisis. At the same time, they forget that Moscow is not alone in its assessment of the situation, Beijing and other states adhere to the same line. The Americans are developing a force variant of the removal of Bashar al-Assad from power in the Libyan scenario. Their military report that everything is already calculated and prepared. Russia, having learned from bitter experience, sees a solution to the problem in negotiating a peaceful settlement with the participation of all the interested Syrian parties, without pressure and threats from outside. The UN and the great powers should use their influence to induce all parties to the negotiating table. In the end, such a scenario may become typical for solving other possible crises.

When choosing between violence and big blood on the one hand, and negotiation on the other, preference should be given to the second path. The Syrian problem is more a global concern than a Russian-American one.

Iran. How many copies were broken in the course of a long battle over Tehran’s nuclear program! A large part of ours, and of the world community, got the impression that the views of the United States and the Russian Federation on this issue are different. But recently, Vladimir Putin’s press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, told American journalist and publisher Paul Saunders: “In fact, we are in the same positions as our American partners with regard to Iran, so in strategic terms we share the same same values. We do not want to jeopardize the non-proliferation regime, but at the same time, we recognize the right of Iranians to peaceful atomic energy. ” Moscow believes that it is necessary to conduct a diplomatic dialogue with Tehran, using our common influence on it.

The position of Iran is also known for a long time. Iranians, publicly and at the bilateral level, convince the USA that they do not create atomic weapons, but work according to programs for the peaceful use of atomic energy. But the United States is under strong pressure from Israel, which, possessing atomic weapons, fears most of all that another state with a similar arsenal will appear in the region. Therefore, they insist that Tehran should be deprived of “the possibility of producing atomic weapons,” that is, of a preemptive strike against Iran’s production facilities. The United States, voluntarily or involuntarily, helped Israel to acquire atomic weapons - an Israeli intelligence officer, Jonathan Pollard, who was engaged in atomic espionage, is still in an American prison. Now their concern is to calm and restrain Israeli “hawks”.

I believe that the first step to establish a lasting peace in the Middle East should be the declaration of this region of the world as a nuclear-free zone - modeled on Latin America.

“Concern in the United States about the internal climate in Russia” is a formula used by American politicians and journalists. We call it more often and closer to the meaning of “interference in the internal affairs of Russia”. There really is a problem here that is unlikely to resolve soon. In Soviet times, it was called the dissident movement, now it has acquired the form of a “non-systemic opposition”, whose representatives also travel to the United States, receive political and financial support from there, consist of various non-governmental non-profit organizations with which the Russian authorities are engaged in a quiet but stubborn struggle. America, its congress and journalists consider their way of life to be the best on earth, and are actively trying to export it to other countries. An exception is made for those who on 100 percent agree to play by the American rules on the world stage, for example, for the monarchies of the Middle East, the dictatorial regimes of Latin America, Africa ... the USSR, and now Russia is a favorite target for American teachings on the topic "how to live" .

Overseas "mentors" cannot understand that our states and peoples have different history, different traditions, and a different ethno-religious composition. We are at different levels of socio-economic and democratic development. They do not know our saying “They don’t go to a foreign monastery with their charter”. And the rebuke that D. Peskov gave in the above-mentioned conversation with P. Saunders is quite understandable, saying: “Those concerns that you mentioned we cannot take into account, and we will not take into account, because these are our internal affairs our domestic policy. We are a democratic country that shares values ​​with the whole world, but at the same time we are a country that will solve all its problems, internal and the like, without any interference from abroad. ”

It's all clear. With this chronic sore, both of us - the United States and Russia - will have to live a long time.

To facilitate mutual inconvenience, our American counterparts could be advised not to use double standards, to apply the same criteria to all states of the world without exemption.

Selective use of their interpretations of "democracy" or "human rights" gives a desire not to fight for the triumph of these principles in the world, but to continue to cling to the technology of the "cold war".

There are several other points where our relations with the United States “sparkle” - the DPRK, the near-Russian diaspora, the Palestinian issue, Venezuela. But nowhere will we find such a clash of vital interests of the United States and Russia, which would justify the periodic onset of frosts in our relations.
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  1. Vanek
    Vanek April 5 2013 08: 07 New
    +8
    A striking contrast is represented by, say, the relations of Washington and Beijing: major business factors dominate here, against which political political differences are fading. This is particularly striking when the United States of America and Russia are violently seizing on the propaganda field on issues such as the “Magnitsky law” or the “Dima Yakovlev law”. Should the two powers, on whose understanding international security depends to a large extent, exhaust themselves in such lists?

    Let's cancel the laws of Dima and Magnitsky. That is, let the Russians go to America, and the Americans to kill our children. So what?

    large business factors dominate here

    The whole thing, as it turns out, rests on the loot. HAD CHOKED already!
  2. smel
    smel April 5 2013 08: 13 New
    +7
    Figuratively ... Figuratively about the musculature. But I do not agree with the claims that we must lose our great-power mentality. I think that it’s better for us to build muscle. We will not wean Americans from egoism. So you need to become stronger yourself. Yes, the common ground should become more painful and painful for enemies
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 5 2013 08: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: ..l
      Russia is a favorite goal for American teachings on the topic of "how to live."


      Another adopted child from Russia died in America. Such news is no longer news for us. Become a beast and we will hear you.
    2. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq April 5 2013 08: 55 New
      +6
      Quote: smel
      But I do not agree with the claims that we must lose our great-power mentality.

      Having lost the great power mentality, the need for muscle will disappear ...
      Empires are born and die in the minds and hearts, and the government, if it wants to maintain a state (multi-ethnic), is obliged to cultivate the great-power ambitions of the people .....
      1. evgenm55
        evgenm55 April 5 2013 13: 56 New
        0
        ... there is no theme of apartments and houses of your senators and deputies in the United States .... Are these. Which, on which the Americans themselves will make fun of, will grow? For them, more expensive than a boble and their own grace do not need anything. These are bedbugs on the body of the people who imagined themselves to be GODS. As long as the country does not cleanse itself of this purulent swelling, nothing will be reborn, at least not to the level necessary for the Great Empire. It is not for nothing that the Great Stalin pulled this column out of the lives of normal people who built the Great Country for the happiness of their children and grandchildren ...
    3. skeptic
      skeptic April 5 2013 12: 07 New
      0
      Quote: smel
      Figuratively ... Figuratively about the musculature. But I do not agree with the claims that we must lose our great-power mentality. I think that it’s better for us to build muscle. We will not wean Americans from egoism. So you need to become stronger yourself. Yes, the common ground should become more painful and painful for enemies


      If we are talking about images, then the United States resembles a person suffering from narcissism. Having a fourth negative blood group, considering himself the most correct, offers everyone to switch to the fourth negative. It doesn't matter that for most other people this is tantamount to death.
  3. amp
    amp April 5 2013 08: 14 New
    +5
    This is not a relic of the Cold War, but a completely natural thing. For the United States, Russia will always be the enemy of N 1, because as soon as it stands in the way of the United States to world domination. The United States is doing everything to destroy Russia, and do not be surprised at this.
    1. evgenm55
      evgenm55 April 5 2013 13: 58 New
      0
      Yes, it seems, for a long time no one was surprised.
  4. fenix57
    fenix57 April 5 2013 08: 22 New
    +1
    E-th-th-th th comrade. about"losing orientation in the space surrounding it. Our missiles were aimed nowhere," partners "surrounded us on all sides, we managed to give the United States more than 50 thousand square kilometers of the Bering Sea, we nearly lost the southern Kuril Islands. Our weight, as a subject world politics, has been reduced to a minimum value. "- fucked up or something, or tougher to say (will not work).
    1. evgenm55
      evgenm55 April 5 2013 14: 01 New
      0
      But what you don’t like? So it was. Boriska publicly said this to the whole world. Plunge into a not-so-old story, there is a lot of information about this. Minus.
  5. Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 April 5 2013 08: 26 New
    +3
    But China is silent and eats.
  6. treskoed
    treskoed April 5 2013 08: 38 New
    +3
    Prevent a reduction in nuclear deterrence forces and withdraw Russian money from the United States. The tone of negotiations will change dramatically.
    1. evgenm55
      evgenm55 April 5 2013 14: 02 New
      0
      Not that political will ... but I agree.
  7. Romn
    Romn April 5 2013 08: 44 New
    +4
    Yes, unfortunately, the United States as a whole is more powerful than Russia. Yes, and the whole world is trying to lick the United States and all that the current is possible, including the great European countries, In today's world, Russia has almost no allies, and even almost all of the former, brotherly, countries are only trying to harm. And the truth is that no one understands the normal relationship and until Russia completely gets on its feet, until it begins to destroy everyone who acts against it and can not punish every insult, until then it will not be considered with our country. Everyone understands the current power, and will be friends only under fear ...
    1. evgenm55
      evgenm55 April 5 2013 14: 04 New
      +1
      Yes, and their friendship is not needed, betraying times ... The main thing is to bark in the direction where Russia will say and take a stand on the first command. Traitors understand only the fear of death.
  8. DimychDV
    DimychDV April 5 2013 08: 45 New
    +3
    >> Choosing between violence and great blood on the one hand, and negotiations on the other, preference should be given to the second path. The Syrian problem is more likely a global concern than Russian-American. >>
    Amers do not share this position, NATO Europe and Turkey do not share, Israel and Arabs do not share, the country was turned into a Gulyai-Pole for allegedly Islamic criminal groups. Even in the UN, it seems, and in the UN Security Council, this your phrase is not shared. WHERE do we still have to yell for the tragedy of Syria and its people in the world to hear? SCO, BRIC and South America to attract?
    Or maybe it's just time to give up the cry and assemble the inter-brigades - because, hiding behind the “experience of Spain”, these currency and oil tycoons have already defeated more than one country! One of the next in line is Nigeria with its oil reserves (already in the film "9th District" flashed vicious Nigerian mafiosi, entrenched under ... Johannesburg!). Notice, by the way? These propagandists PPPOO nevermind all geography. No Amer or European can climb into the atlas, over whom the missiles will fly from Iran to America, or where is Nigeria - and she is half the material from Johannesburg. These c .... ki act on the emotions of people besides logic. The tail twirls the dog! For the burning Georgian cities they gave out the streets of Tskhinval - and everything rolled and got away!
  9. Black
    Black April 5 2013 09: 03 New
    +7
    ... A memorable U-turn with Foreign Minister Yevgeny Primakov from the US coast back to Russia, a theatrical throw of the Airborne Forces battalion to Pristina when Westerners solved their tasks in the Balkans, completely ignoring Moscow - signs of our great-power atavism and real powerlessness.

    I do not agree with the author. These are just echoes of our strength. Strength is not atavism.

    Essentially the article. Between Russia and the West there were — and there will be “points of contact”, and these points are called NATURAL RESOURCES OF RUSSIA + NW. T.O. sees the tooth nimet; teeth do not touch grapes, drooling, anger crushing.
  10. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 5 2013 09: 12 New
    +5
    So for so long and beautifully the author called Russia insane and dying. Well, I just don’t understand why the article was posted? Now, either the entire majority will clam it up or the massacre with Russophobes will begin in the comments. It is simply veiledly said that puff Russia does not puff, and it cannot be great. As it is not beautiful author with my homeland.
  11. xmike
    xmike April 5 2013 09: 14 New
    +3
    Amer and Russia, by definition, can’t be friends, smile sweetly while holding a knife behind their backs - this is their true face
  12. Atlon
    Atlon April 5 2013 09: 16 New
    +2
    What day is this ??? A whole bunch of articles on the topic: "The West has overtaken, in the Cold War" Moreover, implying this thesis, we are still offered to stick our heads into another trap ... The West does not know how to play by the rules. When Cogdla was profitable, the West was increasing military spending, and now the West is having problems ... Having taken a frantic pace and the Cold War, the West overtook the USSR, but did not calm down. And Russia, by virtue of the circumstances, having thrown off the ballast in the form of union republics, is again breathing the west to the back of the head. But the West already has no strength ... That's it. Out of strength. So, one after another article appears, offering Russia to change the rules of the game again. Introduce "speed limits", otherwise it will overtake at a bend!
  13. bubla5
    bubla5 April 5 2013 09: 31 New
    +1
    The USA does not have the right to exist, this state must be destroyed
  14. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother April 5 2013 09: 43 New
    +1
    "Russia continues to search for its stable place in the new world coordinate system"
    Russia has never rushed in search of "stable places" and never will be. Some kind of article with a darling. Like both ours and yours ... Minus set.
    1. isp96
      isp96 April 5 2013 10: 19 New
      +1
      the “theater cast of the Airborne Forces” is particularly jarring. Yes, NATO’s mother was lost, when our people got there, and politicians leaked them. For one thing, I’ll put it minus.
  15. awerkiev
    awerkiev April 5 2013 10: 36 New
    0
    Yes, it’s time to make these points untouchable at all! We must keep asashka parity where our interests are ... Here we need to go to this ...
  16. Bigriver
    Bigriver April 5 2013 10: 39 New
    0
    Not an article, but some article :(
    Caught facts and then what? What is being offered?

    To ease mutual inconvenience could advise our American counterparts not to use double standards, apply the same criteria to all states of the world without exemption.

    Gee-gee-gee laughing
    Yeah, they won't be anymore!
  17. Vtel
    Vtel April 5 2013 10: 52 New
    +3
    “Zion wise men” with the grinding of horns and the clatter of hooves are trying to steer the whole world, raking in their swamp for 30 pieces of silver more and more trusting countries. But they forgot: "If a blind man leads a blind man, both fall into the pit." The main thing is that God is with us !!! Victory will be ours!
  18. AK44
    AK44 April 5 2013 10: 59 New
    0
    The basic principle in relations with the USA, and with other states, is Russia's interests above all. From this we must proceed and in no case give in, otherwise KERDYK.
  19. silver_roman
    silver_roman April 5 2013 11: 56 New
    +1
    The United States is twice as big as our population, 10 times the size of GDP, 30 times the military budget, they have gone far ahead in the development of scientific and technological potential.

    On account of the number I agree. But at the expense of the rest - Nonsense !!!!
    The size of GDP is 6-6.5 times larger, while the GOS is DEBT ABOVE OWN GDP, which is not unimportant (!).
    30 times the military budget ???????? what heresy? 6 times more. the maximum is 7. And it should be borne in mind that our number is constantly growing, but they are decreasing!
    So no need to write nonsense.
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman April 5 2013 13: 07 New
      +1
      hey. smarties who can't say anything back. argue your meaningless minuses !!!! or brains are not enough ?? on the button to reap and the monkey can!
      1. AK44
        AK44 April 5 2013 13: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: silver_roman
        The United States is twice as big as our population, 10 times the size of GDP, 30 times the military budget, they have gone far ahead in the development of scientific and technological potential.

        The main thing is not to piss! Who pisses, that perishes!
  20. fenix57
    fenix57 April 5 2013 12: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: Atlon
    But the West already has no strength ... That's it. Out of strength.

    So this is what we need .... hi
  21. elmi
    elmi April 5 2013 12: 23 New
    +4
    The reflexes of a great power are still alive, but its muscles have already been lost.

    Not lost - there is a pump. Our will is almost lost - we understand everything, but still we concede in many decisions to the West.
  22. Vtel
    Vtel April 5 2013 13: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: elmi
    The reflexes of a great power are still alive, but its muscles have already been lost.

    Not lost - there is a pump. Our will is almost lost - we understand everything, but still we concede in many decisions to the West.


    This is not our people inferior, but for the power-keeping and the ingenious 5th legion!
    1. elmi
      elmi April 5 2013 13: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Vtel
      This is not our people inferior, but for the power-keeping and the ingenious 5th legion!

      Yes, corrected, in my mind I meant power.
  23. taseka
    taseka April 5 2013 14: 31 New
    0
    "we managed to give the United States more than 50 thousand square kilometers of the Bering Sea" - I would like to know more about this, who is Gorbachev or Yeltsin, and under what kind of haircuts? Why betrayal is not given a gene rating. prosecutors? Military college?
  24. honest jew
    honest jew April 5 2013 15: 02 New
    +1
    And when were these touch points?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 5 2013 15: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: honest Jew

      And when were these touch points?
      In other words
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt April 5 2013 15: 28 New
        +1
        And yet ... why, right away at r and ts?
  25. engineer74
    engineer74 April 5 2013 15: 03 New
    0
    "Sixth technological order" after the 3rd world? Are these stol stone axes? Nostradamus is still ... And then they came up with the “sixth technological order” in the West a long time ago, in 1974, learned how to make money from the air to make the “Sixth technological order” after the 3rd World War? Are these stol stone axes? Nostradamus is still ... And then the “sixth technological order” was invented in the West for a long time, in 1974 they learned how to make money out of thin air.
  26. silver_roman
    silver_roman April 5 2013 15: 11 New
    +1
    my personal subjective opinion: do not look for excuses for "friendship" with our sworn enemy!

    NOT worth it for one reason: almost all the troubles of Russian statehood are directly or indirectly connected with American (and their allies) intervention. Of course, I will be extremely glad to hear refutations in the form of logical arguments, and not stupid negatives or minuses.

    And speaking globally, then all their efforts are almost related to the destabilization of the economic, political and even very often military component in the life of sovereign states and in particular the Russian Federation!
  27. ImPerts
    ImPerts April 5 2013 16: 04 New
    +1
    Russia has one big problem - the lack of patriotism among the "ilita". The problem of double loyalty is the most acute. Muscles, nuclear fist, etc., things are needed and good. Only the presence of all this will not solve the problem in the absence of the most important thing - a nationally oriented elite that controls state processes.
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  28. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 5 2013 16: 35 New
    +1
    A unipolar world has never been, never will be. The destiny of the strong is to impose and dictate conditions, the destiny of the weak and corrupt is to obey the stronger, the destiny of the proud and independent is to fight, regardless of the reasons and conditions.
    At the same time, the struggle is between the strong and the weak. As they say in Russia: - "By Senka and a hat."
  29. Genur
    Genur April 5 2013 17: 25 New
    +1
    "We buy ... to our shame, food".
    On this occasion - http://ru-an.info/news_content.php?id=2096 (GMOs enchanted the Medvedev government): “The indefatigable West hates us for more than 20 years using GMOs in food, medicine, and in feed for cattle. And the government obediently does everything that our enemies command. "
    ... There are a large number of studies proving that GMO lead to pathology of internal organs, oncology and infertility of offspring. But there is information that after joining the WTO, Russia is obliged to “skip” GMOs from the USAbe it seeds, food or animal feed ...
    People, be vigilant!
  30. gregor6549
    gregor6549 April 7 2013 18: 11 New
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    Relations between the United States and Russia are now quite normal, despite many formidable statements from one or the other. Nevertheless, the leadership of each country should show its constituents that it will not give up on principles, but on the other hand it pats each other on the shoulder, asking, "Well, how did I give you yesterday’s address to the people?" “Cool crashed,” replies another. "My people are already squeaking with joy and pride for themselves and for me." And there can be no other. After all, the families and contributions of the "patriots of leaders" have long settled over the hill. One Luzhkov is worth it. And what a patriot he was. As a fist threatened in the direction of all who encroach. So they, Luzhkov, etc. leaders, to fight with their families and to demolish their own banks under the root? Do not wait. And the fact that Russia is now armed with new vigorous complexes also worries abroad insofar as for the above reason and because everyone understands that no one will ever use such weapons. And if someone else goes, they will quickly strangle him with joint efforts