"Our answer to Spielberg," or Should foreign films be banned - 2

In continuation of my previous article on the need to ban foreign films.
http://topwar.ru/25794-amerikanski-patriotizm-glazami-russkogo-cheloveka-ili-nuzhno-li-zapreschat-inostrannoe-kino.html.

So, in this article I will not talk about films of foreign production. Instead, I would like to consider the production of our cinema on the example of one very symbolic picture.

What is this movie? I give hints:
* This is the most expensive movie in stories Russian cinema with a budget of more than 1,5 billion or order 55 million dollars.
* This is a film with the largest in the post-Soviet history of rolling circulation: the number of rolled copies of only the first part of the film compiled 1060 instances.
* This is the most popular film in the history of Russian cinema: it was advertised in the media, in banners, on the Internet and even in the State Duma...
* This is a movie with the biggest support in the story from power structures. Assistance, assistants, extras and equipment were provided by the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Emergencies Ministry and the Central Museum of Railway Transport of the Russian Federation.
* This is one of the longest-running films of a modern cinema-photographer. On the shooting took more 8 years.
* This is the only film that the Prime Minister of Russia managed to visit on the set. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (in May 2008 of the year) and then President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev (in August 2008 of the year).
* For the premiere of this picture was specially refitted State Kremlin Palace Russia's largest digital cinema hall
* The first part of this film immediately went to the Cannes Film Festival and was nominated for "Golden palm branch".
* The second part of this film was immediately chosen by the Russian Oscar Committee as a candidate for the award. "Oscar" from Russia in the category "The best film in a foreign language". Later the nomination slowed down the head of ROCK Vladimir Menshov.
And also:
* This film before the premiere was advertised as "Great film about the Great War" and "Our answer to Spielberg" (another option is "Our answer to Ordinary Ryan").
* This is the most failure film in the history of Russian film distribution. The first and second parts collected respectively $ 7,46 million and $ 1,5 million, which in total amounted to less than 1 / 6 of the cost paintings.
* This is a movie left the largest number of negative reviews In Internet.
* To watch this movie forcibly drove schoolchildren a number of cities.
* This is a film that received the most diverse group of "ill-wishers": from schoolchildren and students to veterans of the Great Patriotic War.

So, we have the dulogy "Burnt by the Sun - 2. Imminence" and "Burnt by the Sun - 2. Citadel" from the great and unsinkable Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov.

How did this miracle come about? Let's give the floor to Mikhalkov himself:

"And here's another thing I would like to say: when I watched Spielberg’s famous film“ To Save Private Ryan ”, and many other Western pictures about the Second World War, I felt uneasy: these tapes create the feeling that the most terrible and cruel the history of mankind our allies won the war, although it is well known that they entered it in the 1944 year, waiting for the moment when it became clear that we would break the fascists anyway.
Therefore, I wanted to make a picture that could arouse national immunity ... "

(http://trite.ru - Mikhalkov's personal film company site)

Further Nikita Sergeevich admits how hard the shooting was:

“A large team of historians and consultants worked on collecting materials for this tape. The film crew watched over 60 hours of newsreels of both Russian and German trophy, as well as materials from the US and British military archives. The director himself studied hundreds of pages of documents memoirs and letters of that time, and besides, almost everything that until recently was hidden in the archives of the FSB and special security, and only in recent years became available for use. Therefore, all events, details and The images in the picture have a real basis.
For example, at the very beginning of the war, one of the methods of psychological pressure of the German army on enemy troops in the occupied territory was the use of frightening dust masks worn on German cavalrymen and their horses, or huge canvases with swastikas that were mounted above the towers of the advancing line tanks. Or an example: German pilots threw our positions from the air with holey tin spoons with insulting inscriptions or empty iron barrels. Falling from the sky, they made such a piercing and shocking sound that our soldiers were saddled with horror and even lost their mind. "(From there)

Oh, those eternally closed Soviet secret archives ...

I do not want to review the content of this film footage. Especially since it was done a long time ago and done with high quality.
I advise you to look both for general development and for understanding the topic of discussion. Very interesting. Much more interesting and instructive than the film itself.

Here is a review of the first part ("Standing Up") from Evgeny Bazhenov:


Here is an overview of the second part ("The Citadel") from Dmitry "Goblin" Puchkov.


Naturally, the film, or rather its both parts, had a deafening failure in film distribution. You see, well, did not want the "hamsters" to watch a movie, cutting the truth of the uterus, so to speak, to live and without anesthesia. And even our respected glossy film critics, who swallowed up with the ecstasy of "May Day's 4", turned away from the director genius of Nikita Sergeyevich.

Reviews for "Upcoming":

"The great film about the great war was shot by a great director for great money and with the participation of great actors.
The irony in such a great cause is quite appropriate, especially since the author of this work has long since lost this vital feeling for any artist ... "(journalist and critic Xenia Larin)

“It would be better for this film to remain a legend. So that people take part and the money was spent, and each participant believed that he had contributed to a great cause, and the audience believed that Nikita Mikhalkov’s ten years of life and a half thousand of his companions were well spent. a picture would somehow be hidden under the pretext of copyright perfectionism. By golly, it would have been more rewarding. " (writer and journalist Dmitry Bykov)

“Following the answer,“ Ryan Ryan ”didn’t work out. Even the individual scenes from Spielberg’s movie, like an epic landing on Omaha Beach, didn’t work out. Neither 50’s million budget dollars, nor eight years of working on the movie was enough. The national version of Inglorious Bastards ". Like the Tarantino film, Mikhalkov's film has no relation to real events. Like Tarantino, all the characters behave and talk like a director, he is the author of the script. Only Tarantino has a distinct plot, a normal editing, a brilliant Christophe Ltz and the star Brad Pitt. In our case, an incoherent set of short films, a stupid acting game and no script. By the way, the Tarantino film is more expensive than exactly Pitt's fee, 20 million dollars. Something in the movie does not Quentin understand.
The picture has nothing to do with Victory Day or the veterans ... "(network journalist Dmitry Puchkov" Goblin ")

"Pornography is by no means simulated sexual intercourse on the screen: it may be necessary due to the artistic logic of the film, as in Leos Karaks's Field X, and ceases to be pornography. Pornography is the emasculation of love reduced to piston movement. A pornographer does not know how to film love , he only knows how to shoot mechanics. A pornographer alienates love. A person has two non-alienable assets: love and death. "US-2" - death pornography, which is more dangerous, more terrible and disgusting than love pornography. NM replaces the emotions that death causes, its mechanics. " (Mikhail Trofimenkov "b")

Reviews for "Citadel":

“The idea to revive the heroes, over whose death the first“ Burnt by the Sun ”viewers wept, was strange. But now the claims to it also disappeared. When the head of 15 is thousands of officers, armed with cuttings from shovels, Kotov - and behind him all the command - goes like water on the water, and under the thug harmonica to storm the citadel, but it effectively explodes before their eyes, you understand: there is no contradiction between the parts of the trilogy. The heroes were indeed killed in the 1937 year, and all the subsequent - their death thugs. " (film critic Mikhail Trofimenkov)

"There are no doubts that pedigree populations of Russians exist and purebreds exist, the creators of the epic. Purebred people live in the picture pedigree destinies take off, fall, rise again, rebel against destiny and show humility. But the purebred are not singled out - they have The fate is usually collective. Therefore, they look ugly, scream heart-rendingly, behave disgustingly, eat celery donated by purebreds and try their watches presented to them on a tooth: are they gold? And, of course, they die in batches. ichayshey war and survive - that with such peers caliber allies, like mosquitoes, spiders and mice and always under the leadership of a hereditary champion on genetics -. if that, fortunately, is near. " (chief editor of the web project “However,” journalist Victor Marakhovsky)

Mikhalkov answers to criticism, so to speak.

Concerning the discontent of veterans:

"As for the veterans, whom I respect very much, they have already received their cinema for 65 years after Victory. These are great, great films, but there is not the whole truth about the war, it was impossible to say a lot before."

Concerning Stalinism:

"This picture is not for Stalin, not against Stalin, it is a picture about love. It is about the love of father and daughter against the background of war and Stalinism and everything else."

Concerning the failure at the box office:

"Critics should be happy, because it means that for the first time in Russia, for big money, an art-house, strictly author's cinema was shot, which by definition is not capable of giving large fees."

He also suspected his opponents in a pre-planned campaign to slander his film:

“When the picture begins, as they say,“ wet ”for 8 months before its release, an order is immediately visible here. This is an absolute campaign, thought out.”

Oh. And how well this film was promoted and advertised. Frequent flickering of the film crew in news news agencies. Nikita Sergeevich's frequent greetings in programs like "Good Morning", where he enthusiastically praised his future masterpiece. Unprecedented PR and advertising in all information streams: from TV and the Internet to banners and stickers. The universal support of the film by bureaucrats of various levels: from the future Ministry of Culture Medinsky, to local parliamentarians, forcing calling school to drive this film.
And people bought ... They hoped to see a good film about the Great War. Memory. Sorrow. Courage. Only for this, hire of the first part was 5 times higher than the second (7,42 million versus 1,5 million dollars). Nobody thought that he would see Mikhalkov’s naked boobs, the ass of a German pilot and an imbecile cadet trying to stab a tank with a bayonet.

By the way, Mikhalkov himself told about his film during the premiere in Japan:


You can certainly say that this is senile marasmus. But it is not. I'm afraid this is a system. System for desovetizatsii society. Etching certain settings and views on the history and replacement of others, "correct." Everything seems clear - it is necessary to show how beautiful the world is today and the past is miserable. And do not care about history. Only here “de-sovietization” in Mikhalkovskiy looks more like debilization. Show the stupidity and worthlessness of their ancestors? Degerize generals and officers, exposing them to drunkards and freaks? This is a very patriotic movie ...

This is what Vladimir Medinsky wrote on 28 on April 2010 on the United Russia website (at that time he was not yet a minister hacks culture):

“Well, I looked. I will say one thing. One can probably reproach Mikhalkov with indiscretion -“ The great film about the great war. ”In the artificiality of saving characters. In the length of some scenes. But this is not the main thing. The main thing - there was a correct film about the Great Patriotic War. These have already been - true for a long time. "The Ballad of the Soldier," "The Fate of Man." But there were other, harmful and ridiculous, - such as, for example, the “Bastards”.
“Burnt by the Sun-2. Forthcoming "- ideologically significant and exclusively necessary for the country today, the right movie. I will let the cinema experts from VGIK judge professional details. But in my opinion every senior student, every soldier should see this film. Need free sessions for veterans. It is necessary to promote this film with state support for rental abroad - especially in the near abroad. To remember. About our common tragedy. And a common victory.
If you want such a film in your life to be, run to watch. And I'll take my parents to the USC-2 at the weekend. "

The call Medina immediately understood the local officials of several cities. This kind of material has been splashed on the Internet:

Vladivostok schoolchildren were forced to watch the movie "Burnt by the Sun-2" instead of studying. The corresponding order was given by the officials of the local mayor's office to the principals of the city’s schools, the head teacher of one of the educational institutions said:
“Our school received calls from the department of general and supplementary education of the Vladivostok administration and said that high school students must watch the new film of Nikita Mikhalkov for patriotic education. We had to write a note to parents asking them to give their children money for a ticket, and on the day of viewing to cancel lessons, including in graduation classes. Together with us, the film was also watched by students from other schools, including pupils from deaf-and-dumb children. There was no sign language translation for them, "she said.
Similar was observed also in Moscow and the Moscow region.

Especially for this, when renting, in the law N 436-FZ "On the protection of children from information harmful to their health and development", the film was not given the age restriction class. Although the naked female breasts, mats, vulgarity and a sea of ​​violence, they seemed to call for this. Let me remind you that the law obliged to introduce an age class for any kind of film production.

Here is one of Mikhalkov's remarks after the failure of the film:

"I do not see a catastrophe in this, especially since I am absolutely sure that this new look at the war is unusual, it is annoying, but I assure you that behind this new look of ours, with which we look at what is happening, is very big, I would He said a huge layer of our future cinema and reappraisals of values ​​to which we have become accustomed.
“Anticipation” and “Citadel” are long-running projects. Movies for future generations».

A poem appeared on the web on this topic.
"SS Armored Division" Leybshtandart Nikita Mikhalkov "is dedicated to:
(on the motive of "Brigantine", of course)

Tired of bad alcohol
Pour tired eyes!
Only you blow it - right in the open field.
Pantservaffe raises the sail.

Shturmbannführer, leaning on a rail,
Gave an order to add Marseille,
Because on the speer burner
Sorry for the state ruble!

He said, do not whine, do not itch
Do not drive the Fuhrer into longing,
And go better grab
Oil fields of Baku.

Let it now stumble, an infection!
Creaked out captive.
On Moscow ready vdarit at once
Göpner, Goth and Heinz Guderian!

A storm will break out - we will argue with a storm
In dead calm - we crawl on oars!
And in the distant Barents Sea
Krigsmarine truck knead black soil ...


And again in verse:

***
On the field, the tanks rumbled under the canopy of scarlet sails
Komdiv Sergey Petrovich Kotov their mother from under a mustache.
and at that moment in Berlin, Hitler invited the minions to himself
and there was Goering, there was Goebbels, and Goering Goebbels asked:

Goering:

- Why sails on tanks, they slow down
and cause inevitable fuel overrun
but if the head wind comes, it will be turned by natural force,
He can overturn the tanks, or put them upright!
besides the Luftwaffe eagles increase non-combat losses
15 best aces are no longer listed
seeing caravans of tanks afloat
paralyzed with laughter, they did not come out of the dive.

Goebbels:

- Then, that is so gothic, as if a Viking canoe
on the rod threateningly float up, the Teutonic knights are full,
they have golden shoulder straps, the captain has flared trousers,
you will not go round them on a dog, you will not take a naked hand.
Everything is purely true Aryan, everything is multi-layered and glamorous -
the Bolsheviks, seeing this, will go crazy, they will become ill
in the struggle of ideas are not important tanks, not airplanes, and PR
PR! PR and propaganda - that's a crushing blow!

PS: Communist MP Nikolai Ryabov addressed 19 on May 2010 of the year with a protocol commission to the Duma Committee on Culture in connection with the possible waste of public funds spent on the project “Burnt by the Sun-2: Upcoming”. However, Mikhalkov himself said that "the words of the people's representatives did not concern him." 21 May 2010, the State Duma of the Russian Federation refused to send a request to the Ministry of Culture about how much budget was spent on making the film.

PSS: 19 September 2011, it became known that the Russian Oscar Committee chose Mikhalkov's tape as the candidate for the Oscar from Russia in the category “Best film in a foreign language”. However, director Vladimir Menshov, who heads the Russian Oscar Committee, eventually refused to sign the protocol of the selection committee, finding the decision unfair and adding the following:

“Besides all, so to speak, the merits and demerits of art, this is one part of a great epic. In order to enter the film“ The Citadel, ”you need to watch the previous films. There are a lot of things that are completely unexplained and inexplicable if you watch the film separately. Even from this position it was impossible to engage in the nomination of this film. In short, it was possible to choose. But part of the commission came with a ready-made solution and did not give in to any arguments. I said: give me the arguments for what reason we put forward this picture I’ll be asked, journalists will attack now! But everyone lowered their eyes and waited for the vote, which showed everything. For this reason, I think the commission’s decision is deeply unfair. Everything rests on Mikhalkov’s personal power. I’ll need to inject fresh blood into the Russian Oscar committee he had new people who would not depend on Mikhalkov, he presented his film to the commission, which was not very correct.The year was fruitful - “Elena” Zvyagintsev, “Chapito-show” by Loban, “Once there was a woman” Smirnova have a few movie s that this year could claim. Now I ask what else should be done so that the author, if he did not admit his defeat, then lowered his pride. May sit, think and choose another way. "

PSSS: Of course, we can say that a separate creation does not characterize the national cinema as a whole. But after all here only the lazy one does not see the system: “Penalty” - “Bastards” - “US-2” - “4 of the day in May”. Films, made with the money of the Ministry of Culture and Cinematography of the Russian Federation. Ministries, whose goals include the support and development of the national identity of the people, their culture and respect for history! Yes, there are good films. But this does not remove the main question: why and for whom were these films made, gentlemen ministers? ...

Comments

[Explore]

These are the pies in our cinema ...

[Sasha 19871987]

I’m personally sick of Mikhalkov, I was arrogant and snickering ... especially the situation with the flasher on his car infuriated me, gentleman kuev ...

[Explore]

Friend of Putin. Permanent head of the TFR. Well done, you have to hang around. Not me, like life like that ...

[Explore]

Nevertheless, it must be admitted that Menshov is well done. I went against the tide.
"Respect and respect", as young people say.

[Vashestambid]

Quote: sasha 19871987

I personally feel sick of Mikhalkov, I was arrogant and snickering ...

Everyone is sick of Mikhalkov, although I don’t even know him !! but he’s rich and he’s obviously in a boraban your opinion, so act mutually and just ignore him !!

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[kris]

one word is Besogon.

[kris]

to drive this rot for a long time!

[Lopatov]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Qa6IYqZ9A

[mejik]

if you delve into dictionaries, then "besogon" is ....
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_synonims/8535/%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B3%
D0% BE% D0% BD
Bl, and that’s it!

[imperiologist]

and who put a minus article? Mikhalkov?

[Orthodox warrior]

A few years ago, Sergei Mikhalkov (a children's writer, the father of Nikita Mikhalkov) once said about his children that Andrei is a good boy, and Nikita is mu ... ak!

[gendarm]

After he offered himself as a contender for the coronation to the Russian throne, I have no questions for him at all. It is a pity that no one will offer him hospitalization.

[beech]

I don’t even believe that a person born in the USSR, raised and educated, is free of charge ... maybe he’s cynically pouring dirt on her (homeland) ... in my opinion, this person should work in solar magadan for life along with those who cut our defense industry, destroys our army and sells our, people's wealth for green candy wrappers !!!!

[Clueless]

the state allocates money for every movie of this kind, and then it is either stolen, or a genius like Mikhalkov takes another ... but, at the same time, thinking that this is a masterpiece

shot some kind of fiction

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

This is not even science fiction, this is a delusional evil parody in the style of kukrynyks to the Red Army, you won’t even think of another !!! Nikita is your Adaptation clan under the Communists, like cheese in butter skated and now decided to go the same way, do you think the Americans will be praised? I think it’s unlikely, not all the same as Medynsky with his review, Nikita for banyat you for banyat !!!

[Tersky]

Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW

, this is a delusional evil parody in the style of Kukrynyks to the Red Army, you won’t even think of another !!

Or like here:

, only instead of Elia read Mikhalkov ... which is degrading on the increase. All the scripts of his "masterpieces" were written only after a huge portion of Mexican mushrooms ...

[Strashila]

A'la Hollywood did not give a ride ... the film was shot for the West ... the West did not understand it. they have their own films on this topic, and the domestic audience even more so.

[Humpty]

Mikhalkov is just a scoundrel, even disgusted to see him. Jackal lousy ...

[Baron Wrangell]

and my opinion is, beautifully shot, great props, great costumes, great special effects, great actors! And all, nothing more, the plot is about nothing, the plot is complete nonsense, I watched a movie on TV, I felt like an idiot, I felt sorry for the time spent. And Mikhalkov, in my deep conviction, just soared so much above us, which was facilitated by his supposedly unquestioning opinion. I cheated the whole victory, cheated the feat of the people! partially cheated on the story!

[maximus]

I agree Baron, I was finished off by the last part! I thought I was skiing like that, or I was ...,! If many films about the Second World War can be watched more than once, then here and half a time does not pull! Personally, I really like the film "The Dawns Here Are Quiet" Not a new parody, but 1972! Yes, there are many of them!

[igor67]

It's just that Mikhalkov didn't have enough talent for a film of this level, remember Bondarchuk's film "They Fought for the Motherland", a great director, great actors about the war, and without special effects. The film "Saving Private Rain" I can't say anything, Spielberg is a master, my son saw the first once every 9 years, this film hated the war, he loves this film and watched it ten times, I repeat Mikhalkov did not pull out such a level

[Lopatov]

How does your son feel about the "Pacific Ocean" and "Brothers in Arms", in the creation of which Hanks and Spielberg took part?

As for "I hated the war, it's all about personal preference. At school" Apocalypse "and" Platoon "I don't remember how many times I looked, and decided that it was cool. I went to the military.
Only a real war set me right. And I finally became the most peaceful person.
Have you heard this still Soviet joke that the real pacifists are not hippies, but captains and majors?

[igor67]

My son found out war at age 7, hiding from missiles

[Lopatov]

Do you think he understood something? Hardly. For him it was a game.

[igor67]

Quote: Spade

Do you think he understood something? Hardly. For him it was a game.

Than you are right, to hide during the siren, but after watching the film at a more mature age, plus he also watched two Russian films, Tumann forgot the name, when black smokers got from modern times into the War, he also really likes and influences his attitude towards war I remembered the name "we are from the future"

[Lopatov]

You probably did not understand what I mean. Hiding is a game. real awareness comes much later, agree.

War cannot be hated, it is a given. He does not like it, his right. I support him. No questions at all
The main thing is that in the event of a war, when he has to take up arms (pah-pah ...) he knew what to do. What are the "basic values" of war.

[igor67]

Quote: Spade

You probably did not understand what I mean. Hiding is a game. real awareness comes much later, agree.

War cannot be hated, it is a given. He does not like it, his right. I support him. No questions at all
The main thing is that in the event of a war, when he has to take up arms (pah-pah ...) he knew what to do. What are the "basic values" of war.

No, it’s possible, and he will have to take up arms for anyone, the region is not calm, unlike his peers, he seems to understand what war is, death, and not just walking with arms like a superman.

[Lopatov]

You didn't quite understand me. Read for yourself Exupery "Military pilot" and give it to your son to read. You will understand. I myself fully (probably) began to understand him only after the war.
Do you know what veterans most of all remember? The feeling of camaraderie. Limit. And therefore, the vast majority of survivors consider the time of war the most beautiful in their lives.
God grant that your son never fought in his life. And God forbid, otherwise he would know that there are things much more important than his own safety.

[igor67]

We kind of think about one thing, but we express ourselves in different ways. It is unlikely to read it, since it belongs to modern non-reading youth, thank God that he watched the film several times: we are from the future, plus he doesn’t read Russian well, a sense of camaraderie he will understand from our example how ridiculous it is during the shelling we just drank vodka, of course this is not the same in battle to help a friend, but also support during the rocket explosion

[Lopatov]

I do not want to offend you in any way, but just read http://www.modernlib.ru/books/de_sentekzyuperi_antuan/voenniy_letchik/read/

And yet, vodka does not help. Ches word, I tried. You Jews, smart by default, do not step on my rake.

[igor67]

In the early hours it helps, well, not every day a person sees tears and the rustle of flying rockets, an ambulance howl, so in the first hours vodka helps

[Strezhevchanin]

Grantoedy join.

[Strezhevchanin]

Damn ..... Th with the site? Deja vu.

[Garrin]

And if you suddenly win the greatest war and survive, then together with such equal caliber allies like mosquitoes, spiders and mice.

Right I immediately had such associations. Remember the tale:
"Grandfather beat and beat the egg, didn't break it.
-Baba beat, did not break.
- The mouse ran, touched it with its tail, the egg fell and broke. "
It's the same with the Citadel. The mouse ran, touched the citadel with its tail and exploded. Mikhalkov is insane. This is the betrayal of all the fallen, such allegories are given.

[cumastra1]

A huge contribution to the victory over fascism, along with General Frost, was made by the partisan actions of Russian mice.
Laughter, laughter, and in some kind of documentary book there was an episode when the mice ate the electrical wiring in German tanks and disabled them for several days.

[shurup]

For the film to be a success Mikhalkov should have died in time, and not self-re-elected to the "throne of the tsar of Russian cinema."
But I am afraid that in the first case the film would have been successfully thrown into the distant shelf of the archive, and not accepted by the viewer as the legacy of "a great filmmaker of all times and peoples." Mikhalkov was not lucky with the people - all the slaves and ignoramuses.

[evgenii67]

Quote: Explorar

These are the pies in our cinema ...

Not everything is so sad with Russian cinema, although most directors are oriented to the West, and they make a business film, people like it, will be advertised and go to the movies. A little off topic, taking this opportunity I would like to make a small advertisement, I recently watched an American film "God Bless America" there is an advertisement for AK-47 in the film, hatred of Americans (the main characters) for Americans, and what is the phrase: "Let's go to a country where Americans are hated" ... of course the film is not perfect, a lot of delusional (Americans), but in general positive genre: crime, comedy.

[sergo0000]

Quote: evgenii67

evgenii67

I will support. Good movie. I recommend it! They understand that soon they will kirdyk, then so be it!
And with Mikhalkov for his "cranberry" it would be necessary to ask in full for the expenditure of state funds!

[amp]

The film sucks. Looking disgusting.

[Ragnarek]

if we are to speak frankly, the director Mikhalkov has written out. That's it, he ran out of talent - he drives out frankly. The only bad thing is that lately there have been too many "vyser" like US2-3, 4 days in May, Serving the Soviet Union. there is no clear state program and ideology

[Rink]

Quote: Ragnarek

if we are to speak frankly, the director Mikhalkov has written out. That's it, he ran out of talent - he drives out frankly.

Well, no! .. The point is not at all that Mikhalkov wants to make a good movie, but "the talent is over," and he fights and fights, but he gets it all wrong, against his efforts.

Mikhalkov frankly drives an alien ideology, knowingly! He sold out, he removes what he is paid for, and judging by the fact that he has more and more new pictures coming out in the same direction, he copes with the order - the client is satisfied, the client pays Mikhalkov further.

So, brothers, the matter is more serious here.
Considering the power of cinema, the services that should deal with state security, it is time to pay attention to Nikita's "tricks", and this is his "work".

[Old_kapitan]

Well, no! .. The point is not at all that Mikhalkov wants to make a good movie, but "the talent is over," and he fights and fights, but he gets it all wrong, against his efforts.

Mikhalkov frankly drives an alien ideology, knowingly! He sold himself, he takes pictures of what he is paid for, and judging by the fact that he has more and more new pictures in the same direction, he copes with the order - the client is satisfied, the client pays Mikhalkov and on.

So, brothers, the matter is more serious here.
Considering the power of cinema, the services that should deal with state security, it is time to pay attention to Nikita's "tricks", and this is his "work".

I will subscribe to every word!

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

That's right, and rushing Russophobia !!! Nikita doesn’t like Russians or for sale!

[Skiff-2]

Quote: Skating rink

He sold out

and how Judas will end badly ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Ragnarek

the director Mikhalkov was "written out".

Mikhalkov is a clear example of the thesis "Nature rests on the children of geniuses." That is why he is very offended by the Russian people, who "do not understand his high creativity" Well, I want fame + money. And preferably more. He just forgot that history can be entered as a hero, as a creator, and as a scoundrel and traitor.

[George]

Hello all.
No comment.

[wulf66]

I agree with Menshov, the movie is Vile. The idiotic desire of our culturologists to discredit, reject all Soviet indiscriminately, IDIOTISM. I am a monarchist, but I respect the years of Stalin’s administration and myself. People WIN, the whole country rallied. My grandfather told me a lot about the war (he was silent before, but after my return because of the river we began to talk a lot more), but I myself heard his mothers about the image of the Udobists. According to him, they were respected, although they were afraid, there was no contempt! And the squads that got the edge of the fence, he passed in 1941 TWICE !!! Described them like this: a group of operatives, a platoon of NKVD soldiers, a household company, a bath-and-laundry company. The soldiers of the broken units were stopped, brought to their senses, if possible, fed, changed clothes, re-equipped, formed into new companies and sent back, they talked to almost everyone, a couple of times he saw someone being shot. Very negative about the loss of weapons. And where is the atrocity ??? And our unfortunate culturologists show how all this is? In every film about the Second World War there is ALWAYS a character: a gaddy nkvdeshnik who is sure to interfere with the fight. THE MOST DANGEROUS ENEMIES FOR OUR PEOPLE ARE SELLING HISTORIANS.
What is HISTORY:
Of the thousands of known facts, evidence and documents for publication, only those that confirm established hypotheses are selected, and all the rest either lie under the cloth or disavow before the entire scientific world. The story is created with the help of assumptions and adjusted to the framework of axioms approved by the scientific communities. She begins her own life at the moment the event ends, and consists of subjective evidence, false interpretations and interpretations. The chapter inscribed in the annals of history has nothing to do with reality, and is written in such a way as to present in a favorable light those who at that moment “pay for music”.
It always has been.
It'll be this way forever.
The winners write the story. And woe to the vanquished ...

[George]

Hello all.
Without words.

[treskoed]

The film, to some extent, reflects today's reality: I want to turn what I want! I’ll also get money! Every day on TV you can see something like that!

[Mikhail3]

That's right. Mikhalkov could have made a real film. Only the curator was supposed to come to him to watch the shot material, as once. After watching, wrap around (or even go by the snout, for that - just right) and order to redo it as soon as possible. Then to search through the script and episodes, not sparing the Russian command, explain - HOW IT SHOULD. And carefully look, so as not to send, not inflated with false significance and generally did not build a certain value from itself. Well, in this case, the film could well have turned out. The directors themselves will not remove anything real ever. Never. Alas...

[George]

Hello all.
Without words.

[George]

Why is the picture not displayed? What's the matter ?

[sanyabasik]

All that Mikhalkov does not do will be perceived negatively by the viewer.
Firstly, because the celestial Migalkov snickered;
Secondly, a snickering person loses a sense of reality and conscience.

[AK44]

Maybe he just forgot how to shoot?

[Lopatov]

Well remembered about Spielberg.

I think the series "Brothers in Arms", which he co-produced, is just an example of a patriotic film.
It's just that we put our "gifted" ones in front of the screen and show how to make this kind of work. Some interviews with veterans in this film are worth something.

You can also remember "We were soldiers." Take Fedya Bondarchuk with his "9th company" and poke his nose "like that, damn it"

I have the strongest impression that the successors of the Soviet tradition of war films were not our "talents with their own vision", but the Americans

[serge]

Censorship is needed in order to direct the work of talented moral freaks, such as Mikhalkov, into a channel that is useful for society. And the nationally proportional representation in cinema, and then there reigns continuous racism, are all representatives of the same race and nationality, and not Russian.

[Lopatov]

Why censorship. We need to put in a little clerk who will read the scripts, decide whether such a film is useful to the state, and allocate resources based on the decisions of a group of such anonymous experts. Not just money.

All the rest, "with their own vision," let them give birth to everything themselves, wherever they want. So that their opuses do not justify themselves at the box office, and not only themselves, but also their grandchildren must remain.

[DEfindER]

Thank God that I never watched this mockery of our history, and the feat of our people!

[albert]

I couldn’t fully watch the film, it’s wildly disgusting. Such an impression is that only fascists can shoot films about the Great Patriotic War.

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Mikhalkov, I would say straight-sssuuuch .... smiling, against the background of his inferiority, justify the "face of the era" by poking it into the cake - a great thing for him, brave - 60 years after death
but comrades, it’s taken off with our money, it turns out against the backdrop of the fight against NGOs, the government invests in the same projects to destroy our history. deftly however

[USNik]

Oleg Kashin: Or maybe it was worth giving these 55 million to veterans? Mikhalkov: This is not comparable. It's like saying, let's not build the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, and we will give the money for its construction to people

And many other interesting things about the light of Russian cinema:
http://lurkmore.to/Михалков

[AK44]

The film "They Fought for the Motherland" is beyond competition! I think this is one of the best Russian films about the Great Patriotic War.

[Lopatov]

"Hot snow" is better. And don't contradict. My grandfather cried when he watched the episode with "everything I can".

[AK44]

Quote: Spade

"Hot snow" is better. And don't contradict.

You would be easier, dear! As they say, there is no companion for the taste and color.

[Lopatov]

I am ready to accept your objections.

[AK44]

Actually, I have no objection to which of the films is better. I repeat that there are no comrades for the taste and color. It’s just that you are such a fruit that you cannot contradict.

[AK44]

Actually, I have no objection to which of the films is better. I repeat that there are no comrades for the taste and color. It’s just that you are such a fruit that you cannot contradict

[SHOCK.]

"In war, as in war"
"Only old men go to battle"
"Aty bats went soldiers"
"Liberation"
You can list to infinity.
And you are great. +

[Lopatov]

There are many films, but they don't reach the level of the last scene of "Hot Snow"

[lewerlin53rus]

I would venture to call upon myself a hail of minuses, but I will say that I generally liked the film. Especially against the background of handicrafts like "White Tiger" and "4 days in May". Of course, he is far from such masterpieces as "They fought for the Motherland", "The battalions are asking for fire", "Star", etc. But in this film there are very good actors who show an excellent game. One monologue of Evgeny Mironov in front of the Kremlin cadets why worth. Special effects, costumes, etc. are excellently made. As for directorial delights such as attacks with sticks, they can also be interpreted in different ways. The spider with the mouse, which led to the explosion of the citadel, can be considered as the finger of fate, the will of God, etc., which did not allow the death of thousands of unarmed people, etc. etc.
And here are the comments:

Quote: DEfindER

Thank God that I never watched this mockery of our history, and the feat of our people!

not much better than other vysers in films. Watch the movie first and then get involved in the discussion; otherwise it's just a herd instinct

[igor67]

The white tiger is generally unclear what the film is about, the plot is not connected, that Shakhnazarov as a director fell, maybe administrative work affects, also concerns Mikhalkov, In Burnt by the Sun 2 I watched until the moment where the dying tankman, very fat, asked to show the tits, could no longer

[Lopatov]

Have you watched the German-Czech "Stalingrad"?

As for "White Tiger" - the film was stupid even at the script level. And no Shakhnazarov would have fixed it. Maybe, based on a foreign show, they filmed like "Day-Night Watch"?

[igor67]

[quote = Lopatov] Have you seen the German-Czech "Stalingrad"?


Yes, and by the way I liked

[Bigriver]

Quote: Spade

As for "White Tiger" - the film was stupid even at the script level.

igor67 (5)
Lopatov
You should not be guys.
The film is good, thought-provoking ... On the real and eternal relationship of Machine-Europe and Man-Russia. This film must be watched very carefully to listen to them.
There, literally, from the first phrases the application is visible.
They go ours, through the trenched trenches, look around the enemy corpses.
- ... like not Germans: //
- Magyars. Each creature in pairs.
Adolf's monologue is simply excellent:
-... we just found the courage to realize what Europe dreamed of. Did we not realize the dream of every European citizen?
My only comment to Shakhnazarov was that he missed the topic for reasons of political correctness.
But, call him stupid: ///

[rexby63]

Totally agree with you. Suffering a controversy, could not formulate what you wrote above

[taseka]

Quote: lewerlin53rus

I would venture to incur a hail of minuses, but I will say that I generally liked the film.

I, too, friend, Lewerlin53rus I thought that I would have to write this one! I looked, there was an 14 man in the hall, mostly the older generation (by that time, howling and snot already splashed the entire Internet in the film) Young people already fed up with Robocops and Pakemons would simply not understand this film! Information order on the face! Friends, read the words of Mikhalkov again carefully - "I felt uneasy: these tapes create the feeling that the most terrible and cruel war in the history of mankind was won by our allies, although it is generally known that they entered it in 1944, waiting for the moment when it became clear that we would defeat the fascists anyway ...
Therefore, I wanted to make a picture that could arouse national immunity ... " And not this fat liberal, D. Bykov, who walked around Bolotnaya with black curly hair, with a rat’s banner, against Russia and Putin!
Already sick of these series from the young, where all the soldiers run clean and smooth in new gymnastics and hairstyles with a ponytail !!!
Mikhalkov even showed pus with blood really, and I think this is the most humane film about the Great Patriotic War over the last 20 years!
I really recommend downloading one on the Internet, so that the children and wife do not interfere with watching !!! To the author of the article - let the guys not look "Boomer" from "Dom-2" and look like grandfathers in shit and death.

[Explore]

Quote: taseka

Young people already nourished by the Robocop and the Pakemon - simply would not understand this film!

You are not yourself. Everyone will understand a good picture, as it was with "Brest Fortress", "In August 44", my favorite "Only old men go to battle". Of course, the dumb viewer who has no taste is to blame for the fact that this shit failed miserably. Bidlo in one word. And what does the youth have to do with it? She just simply ignored this film ...

Information order on the face!

But no, speak directly - I’m paid by the American State Department (the Japanese triad / Sicilian mafia / Communist international - choose what you like) Troll and Judas, who dared to yap at the GREAT MAESTRO ...

Friends read the words of Mikhalkov carefully again

I read it more than once. I especially reread it when preparing the article. I did not find anything "revealing the world". A two-faced swindler trying to talk about patriotism.

And not this fat liberal, D. Bykov

I already regretted having entered his opinion. The light on Bykov did not converge. But the fact that even a number of "swampy" people recognized the wretchedness of the picture says a lot. By the way, they even tried to promote it on "Echo". They say "the truth is open", "it hurts your eyes" ...

Already sick of these series from the young, where all the soldiers run clean and smooth in new gymnastics and hairstyles with a ponytail !!!

You will not believe it, but in the army the soldiers really monitor their cleanliness. For their unshavenness, lack of semblance and untidiness, one can snatch such cabbage from the commander. Like dirt - go to the stable. And in films about the war, not dirt is important, but the humanity of the heroes.
And why are you dug into the young? They are to blame for everything in you ...

In Mikhalkov, even pus with blood is really shown

Your tastes scare me ...

over the past 20 years, the most humane film about the Great Patriotic War!

I will leave this without comment. As one classic said: "Do not argue with fools, otherwise people may not notice the difference between you."

To the author of the article -

I am deeply * on your minus. For this I will not repay you with the same coin.

guys don't let "Boomer" watch from "Dom-2"

Nobody spoke about this nonsense. You are raving.

and look like grandfathers in shit and death did victory !!!

It’s better to read history books and ask veterans, read a couple of monographs and view footage of the military newsreel of those years. This is better said about the war than this dull and deceitful fucking Mikhalkov.
Or do you sincerely believe that we fought with sticks under the leadership of drunken degenerate commanders and driven by machine guns from detachments of troops, but quietly hated our own country, which made us die? Then uncle, you hike ...
.

[taseka]

Quote: Explorar

Yes, and where does the youth? She just simply ignored the film ...

It is precisely in this that our misfortune is that the youth of Russia did not go to watch a film about how their grandfathers were killed in the war !!! They just are not interested!

"who dared to bark at the GREAT MAESTRO ..." - yelp at least at the elephant, it's not about the director, but about the plot of the war, where our people died.
"I read it more than once" - Therefore, I wanted to make a picture that could arouse national immunity .. - it’s a pity that your national immunity wasn’t aroused, seeing the stupid virus has already hurt you!
"By the way, they even tried to promote it on" Echo ". They say" the truth is open "," it hurts your eyes "..." - that's who wildly rejoiced at his victory, for the money of the US State Department, let them look at the series. Raina !!!
"And in films about war, not dirt is important, but the humanity of the characters." - the truth is important, bitter, homespun - the truth is, where there were lice and a lot of dirt !!!

"Your tastes scare me ..." - that's when you see it in war then really "get scared!" Then get used to it, of course, but you will always feel sick!

"As one classic said:" Do not argue with fools, otherwise people may not notice the difference between you. " - and the classic said - "Never consider yourself smarter than others"

"I am deeply in the * host on your minus." - here we are the same! Me too!!!

"Nobody spoke about this nonsense"- Yes, I didn’t say it, but unfortunately they are watching! And you are partially guilty of criticizing the film.

"Then uncle, you go ..." - I sincerely regret you, young man! Poor thing!

[Explore]

Quote: taseka

It is precisely in this that our misfortune is that the youth of Russia did not go to watch a film about how their grandfathers were killed in the war !!! They just are not interested!

Again the youth are to blame? You're crazy. By the way, "Brest Crepe" and "We are from the Future" were very popular.

Quote: taseka

Therefore, I wanted to make a picture that could arouse national immunity .. - it is a pity that your national immunity was not aroused, to see the virus of stupidity has already hurt you!

And in the place of this he took a false fake? I ask again:
Do you also think that some penal battles fought?
Only with sticks?
Under the direction of officers-drunkards and degenerate generals?
Driven by machine guns of detachments?
And the stupid head of state just thought how to put more people?

Quote: taseka

when in war you will see it then really "get scared!" Then get used to it, of course, but you will always feel sick!

He wasn’t in a real war, but he served in the reconnaissance of the border with Georgia. I doubt you about it ...

Quote: taseka

here we are the same! Me too!!!

But I didn’t set you ...

Quote: taseka

Yes, I didn’t, but unfortunately they are watching! And you are partially guilty of criticizing the film.

You are either Mikhalkov or a fool. And here is a criticism of the stupid movie and watching another stupid series?

[commoners]

Mikhalkov even showed pus with blood really, and I think this is the most humane film about the Great Patriotic War over the last 20 years!

Watch "The Ascent" by Larisa Shepitko, no pus, no practically blood, but about the Great War. And Mikhalkov "Rybak" for whom there is no turning back, despite the fact that the gates are open and the sentries are gone.

[taseka]

Quote: plebs

Watch "Ascent" by Larisa Shepitko

- watched a good movie!
And you look at "The Fate of a Man" - there is rot and blood! And also about the Great War!

[Explore]

Your right. People have different tastes. A friend of mine loves the movie "Borat" for example.
The thing is different, IMHO, this x * nya is much more deceitful and dirty than all anti-Soviet films shot before together. Unhistorical, deceitful and stupid. Although once again I say - everyone chooses his own interests ...

[ed65b]

Yeah, especially a moronic Red Army soldier with a door on his back and Kotov raising a tower from a tank with a log Damn Lenin at a clean-up day)))))) There you will look closely at the crap on the crap, a tank knocked out in the middle of the workshop surrounded by huge dumps, did he fly there by parachute? I went specifically to see this Mikhalkov with a friend, although it was clear that the game was terrible. A woman on a mine is a mindless fool. Tungus won the shortest. At the beginning of the film, he climbed onto a pine tree at the end, and All was shot. Neighing heartily. Stalingrad - "Let me see my boobs", the 80% burnt tanker wanted to see only boobs, nothing else.

[Black]

Russia! Do you smell this strange itch ?!
Three Mikhalkov crawl over you! (Gaft)


Mikhalkovs are rare villains because they do it consciously.
There is a "discussion of the film of this filthy film .... After Shoigu's phrase that Mikhalkov's films are educational in nature, Nikita Sergeevich asked to speak:" You say - education. Once I walk along Tverskaya, there are girls of easy virtue. They recognized me. One of them asked for an autograph. "What is your name?" - I ask. "Natasha." I write on a notepad: "Dear Natasha ..." And she: "Thank you, Nikita Sergeevich, I was brought up on your films!" ...

[baltika-18]

Quote: Chen

Mikhalkovs are rare villains for they knowingly create

This expression says it all.
Adding anything is just a waste of time.

[Explore]

Quote: baltika-18

Quote: Chen

Mikhalkovs are rare villains for they knowingly create

This expression says it all.
Adding anything is just a waste of time.

д

[Explore]

[quote = baltika-18] [quote = Cheny] Mikhalkovs are rare villains for they consciously create [/ quote]
This expression says it all.
Adding anything is just a waste of time. [/ Quote]
[quote = Explorar] [quote = taseka] Young people already nourished by Robocops and Pakemons - this film simply would not have understood! [/ quote]
You are not yourself. Everyone will understand a good picture, as it was with the "Brest Fortress", "In August 44", my favorite "Only old men go to battle". Of course, the dumb viewer who has no taste is to blame for the fact that this shit failed miserably. in a word. And what does the youth have to do with it? She just simply ignored this film ...

[quote] Information order on the face! [/ quote]
But no, speak directly - I’m paid by the American State Department (the Japanese triad / Sicilian mafia / Communist international - choose what you like) Troll and Judas, who dared to yap at the GREAT MAESTRO ...

[quote] Friends read the words of Mikhalkov again carefully [/ quote]
I read it more than once. I especially reread it when preparing the article. I did not find anything "revealing the world". A two-faced swindler trying to talk about patriotism.

[quote] And not this fat liberal, D. Bykov [/ quote]
I already regretted having entered his opinion. The light on Bykov did not converge. But the fact that even a number of "swampy" people recognized the wretchedness of the picture says a lot. By the way, they even tried to promote it on "Echo". They say "the truth is open", "it hurts your eyes" ...

[quote] Already sick of these series from the young, where all the soldiers run clean and smooth in new gymnastics and hairstyles with a ponytail !!! [/ quote]
You will not believe it, but in the army the soldiers really monitor their cleanliness. For their unshavenness, lack of semblance and untidiness, one can snatch such cabbage from the commander. Like dirt - go to the stable. And in films about the war, not dirt is important, but the humanity of the heroes.
And why are you dug into the young? They are to blame for everything in you ...

[quote] At Mikhalkov even pus with blood is really shown [/ quote]
Your tastes scare me ...

[quote] over the past 20 years, the most humane film about the Great Patriotic War! [/ quote]
I will leave this without comment. As one classic said: "Do not argue with fools, otherwise people may not notice the difference between you."

[quote] To the author of the article - [/ quote]
I am deeply * on your minus. For this I will not repay you with the same coin.

[Quote] let the guys not "Boomer" look with "Dom-2" [/ quote]
Nobody spoke about this nonsense. You are raving.

[Quote] But they look like grandfathers in shit and death did victory !!! [/ quote]
It’s better to read history books and ask veterans, read a couple of monographs and view footage of the military newsreel of those years. This is better said about the war than the dull and deceitful f * ck of Mikhalkov.
Or do you sincerely believe that we fought with sticks under the leadership of drunken degenerate commanders and driven by machine guns from detachments of the guards, but quietly hated our own country, which made us die? Then uncle, you hike ...

[Nitup]

Of course, Hollywood makes little good films, mostly some frank ones, but our contemporary, in my opinion, is no better.

[Atlon]

This nonsense should not be watched, much less should not be discussed ...

[Lopatov]

Why not? On the contrary, how else.

[Black]

Watching the film for those whom Mikhalkov "educates" should clearly show that:




Stalin was a fat, lazy lover of music and grub, who trained his will not in the everyday life of the Bolshevik underground, but in sandwiches with jam.

Soviet people drove political prisoners into the shed and stupidly shot them from the Maxim machine gun; while sacredly saving the lives of criminals. True, they immediately died, bombed by German planes.

Prisons were naturally located near the border, so that in case of an attack the fascists were tempted not to bring their bombs to military targets and bomb the criminals. Often worked;

Political prisoners were allowed in prisons to have such iron claws as those of the Shredder of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles;

Pioneers completely abandoned their parents, roughly, as we are invited to do with our ancestors today;

Adults with fear always pissed in their pants, while believing girls brazenly cursed with the NKVD officers and, being "children of the enemies of the people," they managed to become pioneer leaders;

During the Great Patriotic War, Soviet people aptly killed fascists (aces of the Luftwaffe, the blasphemy there) from signal flares of at least aptly scattering fascists from the plane;

Then they finished off the weakened fascist planes with prayers;



They killed mentally unbalanced commanders offering such ridiculous and naive nonsense as DEFEND THE HOMELAND;

Bridges with people were blown up, “the patamushta of the hermit commander waved a red flag”;

Soviet people never opened the door to girls fleeing from pursuit, for which they had to die, preferably all together, because they "angered God";

All the filthy unchristians were to die;

The war, of course, was waged by penal battalions alone, armed with shovels, from the fall of 41 years. It is possible that they had to fight with shovels, because there were not enough resources for the machines, since they went to develop a time machine;

Soviet commanders blew their nose overcoat subordinates and in every possible way mixed them with shit. But this was not enough for them, and in addition they violated the charter and insulted other officers in the presence of soldiers. True, when they died in whole battalions, the “Russian soul” swung open and let out a tear like “ruined the boys”;

In the red army, it was considered bad form to follow the chain of command. The captain of the Kremlin cadets, arriving at the front, tried to stir up groveling before the "golden epaulettes" there, crossing out all the achievements of the February revolution, but the local elder explained to the cap his huge mistake, and he, being a conscientious communist, quickly corrected himself;

Among the military intelligentsia there were Islamists who, before the battle, endlessly chanted two phrases “bumbled up Rakhman Rahim” and “Allah Akbar”, but like the infidels they all accepted Islam;


Soviet people stood to death with only shovels against tanks, while in some incredible way they managed to knock out all these tanks. Although most likely, the panzers were lined with pre-revolutionary church candelabra; yeah, the very ones that withstand the direct hit of an aerial bomb;

The wounded soldiers before their death did not moan like the wounded, but ached like capricious children who were not given candy;

Soviet people with the help of a log without any difficulty raised tanks;

Well and, of course, the nurses didn’t take advantage of it, but out of mercy they comforted their own wounded tankers with naked boobs.

[erased]

I have a lot of words that can be said about Mikhalkov's films "US" and "US-2", but I cannot quote them here. Moderators will be banned.
Such a vile ..... I .... have never ... seen ... And so .... not to see .... completely ....
Curtain, applause ..... mother ....

[Black]

What can we say about the Germans by watching our CINEMA OF CINEMA

1. On the first day of the offensive, concentration camps that were mysteriously located in the border zone were attacked as priority targets.
They aptly ripped off the plane onto barges at a speed of 350 kilometers per hour (for Germans were strictly forbidden to shoot unarmed civilians).
2. They hit barge captains in the forehead with an airplane wheel, while managing not to crash into the wheelhouse and masts that are higher;
3. In general, the Nazis were civilized and killed the Soviets only because they “were to blame themselves” - it was impossible to resist except by shooting down planes with the above-mentioned prayers, and sawing out tanks with shovels;
4. Only a vile, vile SS man could kill the gypsies “for nothing,” however, later ordinary fascists were not forbidden to drive the entire village into a barn and burn it there, and always with flamethrowers. It must be said that for insurance purposes the barn was heavily doused with diesel fuel, and only then it was set on fire with a flamethrower - just to make sure it caught fire;
5. The Nazis brazenly ate apples, and then alone, fearlessly entered the dark barns, where they died, stabbed to death with pitchforks. Thus, in barns it was sometimes possible to cut off an entire division with pitchforks, unless the surviving fascists quickly caught up with the armored column on bicycles;
6. In addition to explosive and armor-piercing shells, the tank always had a chocolate bar with a portrait of Hitler. At the same time, at the sight of a joyfully screaming Soviet soldier, the fascist had to stop the tank, crawl out of a hatch and share a chocolate with him;
7. When running away from the bomb, the Germans jumped no worse than ours - something like in “American Ninja” and films about Shaolin;
8. Having been captured, the Nazis first tried to get away, but when they were caught a second time, they voluntarily taught them to tie their hands behind their backs so that they would not have to be caught a third time;

[Ruslan67]

When there was censorship and party control, the same Mikhalkov took off masterpieces. Can he introduce it again?

[avia67]

Once Nikita Mikhalkov went to church ... and was lost among the icons.
Read in LiveJournal, someone very accurately noticed.

[DimYang]

Personally, this film makes me feel nauseous, I still have to look for such insanity.

[Black]

And vsezh Nikitka is only a performer, a lackey, fulfilling the will of those who "shovel" the country's history
I can imagine how we will get a "single" history textbook ...

[USNik]

Black, the most interesting forgot to lay out :
"...
Enter Dyuzhev. He is shell-shocked. In the story, he is not needed.

Penal battalion soldiers enter. They don’t need weapons, they give them a sapper shovel one per company. Commanders who send thinned remains are sent to the bayonet tanks without fail, in order to show the fighting distance to the damned Fritz (those who are cultural, very ashamed). No damn can be seen further, apparently, I had to share a budget of many thousands - without prejudice to the plot, everyone was killed for so long. Explosions. Screaming. Very cute.
..."

[Begemot]

I didn’t really like the CC -2. He looked and was surprised. The most vital scene is the ex-wife’s hysteria, the rest is a complete and primitive fiction.
Yes, and my brother distinguished himself exactly the same with the Nutcracker. We spent a lot of money, but no one wanted to watch. Apparently, we are too far away from the people, since we do not understand such "art".

[Kars]

"A large team of historians and consultants worked on the collection of materials for this tape.

Would have announced the list)))) to know who would brand the shame. Is there a reason for the rezun to be healed?

[Explore]

It seems like Edik Volodarsky visited the shooting a couple of times. He is exactly familiar with history. "Penalty battalion" is his creation ...

[ausguck]

The article was minusanul and that’s why, you don’t need to scold shit a lot of mind, especially if you pull quotes from any critical articles and substitute them in your work .... it’s much harder to find and praise something good, this Chernukha is already sick of it, it’s already 25 years pouring from all the cracks, I honestly missed the Soviet news already where everything was great, here I swear by my mother, miss you! ))) And leave shit pouring to all the liberals, we have them and since the dogs are uncut, you should not be like them ... Give us at least some positive emotions and the people will reach for you ...)))
Py.Sy. And the film is really a cesspool ...))))

[AK-74-1]

Films need to be shown. Prohibition breeds cravings. But it is possible to administer cinemas so that they will vying with each other to refuse to rent foreign films. How many ways of influence does the will power have? "Mikhalkov's masterpieces" and "White Tiger" have not and will not watch. Such "masterpieces" are called inefficient use of funds. Of the latter, I liked the "Match" with Bezrukov. The only thing that didn’t like in "The Spy" was the indulgence of liberoids in an attempt to discredit Stalin and Beria. And I also have great respect for documentary filmmakers. On "Zvezda" they often show dock-series about reconnaissance, saboteurs, etc. they look cleaner than "The Expendables" or "Team" A. Some of Sudoplatov's adventures are worth something.

[ekama1]

Sergei Mikhalkov presents the film by Sergei Mikhalkov according to the script
Sergei Mikhalkov starring Sergei Mikhalkov, etc. Narcissism - Wikipedia Narcissism is a character trait that consists in exceptional narcissism. So I would have made a film about myself and my own money. And the film is complete nonsense-phantasmagoria -imho

[Alexey M]

Mikhalkov is a genius! You don’t understand anything. A man is doing his favorite thing at state expense. He makes films for himself about relatives. And not bad at making money!
He had a dad who participated in the war, it should be a shame there should be a goat for such a movie. By the way, Mikhalkov the elder wrote good verses for life, it’s a pity that he saddled up.
A penal battalion like nothing movie actors are not stubborn playing well. There are many more TV shows that are less or less normal. Again, the white tiger, if someone has watched to the end, Hitler’s monologue is very strong.
Private Rain is also a good film without pathos with blood, death and dirt. So it's not so bad. He just has a good director, but he has no money to make a good movie. And there’s a right director, and they give him money. In short, everything is as always.

[Explore]

There are already three cons, but only one dared to speak out?
I am waiting for your complaints friends.
Ready to answer for any paragraph of the article.

[Lopatov]

Your work? Ready to support you.

You have one thing missing: suggestions on what to do next. Well, except for sending Mikhalkov on an honorary pension. As a taxpayer, I am prepared to bear such expenses.

[svp67]

Quote: Explorar

I am waiting for your complaints friends.

Well what can you say: article - three times "KU" , and films are just "KYU" ....

[Avenger711]

Mikhalkov to judge for treason Home time has come. One given vyser for this is more than enough.

[1goose3]

Quote: taseka

Mikhalkov even showed pus with blood really, and I think this is the most humane film about the Great Patriotic War over the last 20 years!

The terrible truth of war is shown. My uncle, Uncle Misha, in 1942, returning from the district as a 16-year-old boy, spent the night in the field, and while he was sleeping he was taken away from his horse. For the loss of collective farm property, he received 5 years, according to the laws of wartime. In 1943, he fell into the penal battalion, attributing age. Later he reached Prague and passed the Japanese. In the penal battalion, he fought a little more than 3 months before being wounded. So his truth was sometimes worse than that shown by Mikhalkov.
I add, until his last minute, Uncle Misha idolized Stalin.

[Avenger711]

They didn’t send to the battalion for more than 3 months. Lucky and for 3 months without injuries, still clean as a baby.

[Lopatov]

The "terrible truth of war" is not like that.

Everything is much more boring. And worse.

[svp67]

Quote: 1goose3

My uncle, Uncle Misha, in 1942 and 16 as a summer boy returning from the district spent the night in the field, and while he was sleeping he was taken away by a horse. For the loss of collective farm property received 5 years, according to the laws of wartime. In 1943, he got into the penal battalion, attributing age.

Well, you, dear, if we are talking about the truth, then the next time in a conversation, the sad fate of your uncle, say that he ended up in the STAFFROT, as the guilty commanders and political workers, later officers of the Red Army, were sent to the STAFF.

[Explore]

He could not get into the penal battalion in any way, because all the penal battalions were exclusively officer penal units (and he was not an officer).
Apparently it was a penalty company ...

[Ivan Tarasov]

Demonstration workshop.
http://video.yandex.ru/users/kpe-inform/view/424/

[Cat]

Epigram V. Gaft on Mikhalkov:
"Russia! Do you hear the strange itch?
Three Mikhalkov are crawling over you. "

Or four already? Does she also have a daughter?

[APASUS]

I haven’t watched it and have no desire!
And Mikhalkov can be accused of double-dealing, he conducts stuffy conversations about honor and dignity, but acts like a servant!
“What kind of pop is such a parish?” what do we want from our culture when it is headed by such personalities as NS Mikhalkov?

[Boa kaa]

I looked at the analysis. The author is a young man with a developed sense of lies and an understanding of the direction of the film. Since there are such people, not all is lost for the country! This is by the way.
Essentially: This is not a film epic - it is eclecticism. Secondly, even a “film gentleman” is not allowed to spoil our heroic past. What kind of scoundrel do you have to be? “De-Sovietization...” “And don’t care about history”... Dear, what are YOU talking about!?
You can’t live up to Bondarchuk and his EPIC “War and Peace”, you have a lot of guts. He couldn’t tell the truth about the war, like Bykov in his “Only Old Men Go to Battle,” so he’s trying to cover up his mistake with the “author’s view” of the past war.
"9th Company" makes you cry. and US-2 is perplexed: I would look at that suicide who would drop Koba face-first into the cake. Khrushchev and Budyonny sang and danced in a crouch, the paralyzed Roosevelt tried to get up when Stalin entered. And here is a caricature of the Generalissimo. Not good…
Last thing. Budget money should be given for the script, after its approval by the committee of the Investigative Committee. Then 50 million. dollars They will educate you, and not force you to spit as if you had come into contact with something dirty.

[Cat]

To be serious, Mikhalkov has both good films and good roles. But he didn’t take on his own topic - well, if Borya Moiseev began to sing the USSR anthem

[Apollo]

Quote: Gato

To be serious, Mikhalkov has both good films and good roles. But he didn’t take on his own topic - well, if Borya Moiseev began to sing the USSR anthem

Greetings dear

Mikhalkov’s whole problem is that he’s trying to sit on two chairs. But that doesn’t happen. Either you’re a film director or the chairman of the Union of Cinematographers. The first is creative and the second is administrative. One of two things. He can’t make a choice, he wants both.

[smart ass]

I recommend STALINGRAD, a good film about the war, watch it, it’s a German film.

[George]

There was just an article dedicated to Leonid Bykov.

[BAT]

Real war films
"In war, as in war"
"Road checks"
"Only old men go to battle"
"Aty-baty soldiers were coming"
"Liberation"
"Shield and sword"
"Seventeen Moments of Spring"
"The fate of man"
"The Living and the Dead"
One could go on for a long time to list many films, not deservedly forgotten, which were made for much less money, but many times more talented, more entertaining, more patriotic and better than the current remakes all together...

[Lopatov]

“The Fate of Man” is not a film about war at all. It's about Man. who must remain himself.

[serge]

"Belorussky Station" A real film about frontline soldiers. "Tanks are moving in a diamond pattern." Also a strong film. In general, “Tanks are moving in a diamond pattern” and “Hot Snow” are the strongest books written by participants in the events..

[Corsair5912]

And the most truthful film about the war, without drool, love and obscenity, is still - They fought for their homeland", only the cast is worth a separate discussion, Shukshin, Burkov, Nikulin, Bondarchuk, etc.

[Trevis]

I really love Nikita Mikhalkov’s films!

[georg737577]

Thoughts on the article;
1 . Cinema is deteriorating all over the world (some more noticeably, some less... but the principle is general - the lack of ideas cannot be compensated for with money).
2. Mikhalkov is not a good director (and this is not a secret), but he has opportunities - hereditary, you know...
3. Since the state wants to have a “correct” film about the Second World War, it’s easier to hire
directed by the same Spielberg, give him money, competent consultants, etc. And
the result will be better.
4. Mikhalkov should not be allowed to get close to history - it is contraindicated...

[SPAAARTAAA]

I agree with the article. I watched the first 20 minutes and couldn't make it through any further. The film caused some kind of internal rejection.

[SPAAARTAAA]

I quote “Mikhalkov even shows pus with blood” taseka, watch the film “Come and See”

[ABV]

And such films are made with money from the Ministry of Culture, because not all the corrupt nits (to the Americans) have yet been gotten rid of! This is a purposeful policy for the collapse of our state - attempts to destroy the army and navy, industry, education continue... and IDEOLOGY is the primary concern. We are fighting...we can’t manage to do everything at once and everywhere—in the 90s, the arrogant Saxons planted a lot of fifth columns here.

Well done Menshov! At first he refused to present the award to the “Bastards”, but now he spoke here on principle. Respect to him from us, people who love their Motherland!

[Comrade1945]

Question:

Should foreign cinema be banned - 2

Answer: NEEDED, NEEDED and needed again, BUT not all the same, Damn it!
That stream of American, excuse me, crap is already making me sick (let’s remember the recent elusive ones and hundreds of similar American-patriotic films)

...otherwise we collect everything that doesn’t sink.

Good luck to all

[Stalinets]

Mikhalkov, one of the representatives of the "fifth column". Crypto. What to expect from him? As for the prohibitions, this is not correct. Forbidden fruit, as they say. We need to reconsider or even return to morality. This is the foundation. We need to start from the first days of school. We need to teach people (children) to understand what is beautiful and what is ugly, what is good and what is bad and why. We have already passed bans and they only play into the hands of the fifth column. We need a wise man like Stalin. And strong..

[Tartary]

And I gave the article a bold "-".....................
Because I think that the article is fragrant, assembled from various yellow(!) threads...
Menshov is a director, Mikhalkov is a director ------------- it’s like Putin is the President, Medvedev can do it too, etc. - maybe a bad example, but look for another one...
The elderly are fighting for various positions at the end of their creative path and life, and they are also encouraging aspiring young people to do this, who scribble articles, reviews, collect comments from those offended by the claims of life and competitors...
"Shirley-myrli" by Menshov????????? Here's your answer - "Blind Man's Bluff" by Balabanov with Mikhalkov in the role of the godfather...
Should I continue giving examples? What for? And so it’s clear...
The more worthy ones leave the workshop in silence, because... understand that the value of this or that masterpiece of a fellow worker should be better assessed by posterity...
After all, I remember from “Private Rhine” - half the country was dragging one way or another...
Now what has changed?
In a number of works there are also more worthy of criticism, and which can be taken for granted without regret... For example, the crap - “In June 41”, and the author of which just wanted to confuse us with the name of the picture, mixing it with the real good, and the plot he came up with was funny and obviously doesn’t apply to de.i.l.ov., of which the vast majority in Russia are...
Of course, the best thing is to take the kids to watch Ozerov’s great Epic than “Burnt by the Sun”... But people order a contemporary, not a classic? So who else among the current ones took a risk, besides Mikhalkov? Where are the heroes of the film front? Yeah - everyone took the easy route, through the 90s and the Brezhnev-Gorbachev USSR... Why bother? Failure will also spoil the reputation of the great...
We have many great directors in Russia, but Mikhalkov is not one of the last ones there...
So no need to la-la, gentlemen...
If you didn’t like it (the question is why?), just say so... And there’s no point in beating into the mud those or those who overestimated their expectations and underestimated the artist’s work.
No matter how anyone feels sick...
But if you’re hesitant, go hang around “Private Rhine” again, and suddenly you’ll have a strong desire to go and save him.
And I’d rather take another look at “Burnt by the Sun” in the next room - it will be more honest for me... And I’ll feel less nauseous...

Let's all press the red one in unison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bigriver]

Quote: Tartary

... after all, people order a contemporary, not a classic? So who else among the current ones took a risk, besides Mikhalkov?...

Please.
Little-known Lebedev made the best film of the last 10 years about our war - “Star”. According to Kazakevich.
“Joker” Ugolnikov, who would have thought, made an excellent “Brest Fortress”. Which is strange, without a single “cranberry” moment.
The voting by both critics and audiences for these films was unanimous.
As you can see: conscience, respect and love for the history of one’s country are qualities more necessary for a director making a war film than directing and producing experience.

The Mikhalkov failure has a completely understandable reason.
He started from the only visible youth trend towards the Great Patriotic War. He believed that there was such a special trend, and if he followed it by choosing a youth clip system for presenting material, he would be successful. In a word, this is an attempt to create a mass product for the “Pepsi generation”, adapting to it.
But the Russian deep genome said - fuck you!
And thank God. So we have hope.

[Explore]

What didn't you like?
1. Only penal battalions fought. LIE. In total, no more than 15 shb existed at a time. Read the books of the former fine-dealer Pyltsyn.
2. They fought like stupid bimbos. LIE. The Germans suffered greater losses in the first month than for the Polish and French companies combined.
3. They fought with sticks. LIE. Even semi-partisan DNOs were 90-95% equipped with rifles, while 80-90% were equipped with l/s. I’m generally silent about regular troops. “One rifle for three” is a false nonsense of the liberal intelligentsia.
4. Driven by machine guns of detachments. LIE. The ZO had other functions and were located several kilometers from the front.
5. I’m generally silent about Stalin and Co....

CONCLUSION: The film was created with one sole purpose - to show the insignificance of the country and people and the “accident” of victory achieved thanks to spiders and cockroaches.

[Oleg Oka]

not a single argument, but so do they, the cattle depot! do not understand the genit...genit...the genius of the chosen ones! Here's Nikita's example. What did he do? And he comes from the top... so to speak, by right of birth. But seriously, he became a “celestial” ONLY because of the good “One Among Strangers...” and “Cruel Romance”, where the director filmed himself, his beloved, in the form of some idiots. That's all. And then the master got greedy. Thanks to such connoisseurs as TarTary

[Corsair5912]

Mikhalkov's first film "Burnt by the Sun" is slobbering nonsense, intellectual reflections of an ignorant idiot, on the theme of humanism towards the enemies of the people.
All the following “tired” of anticipation and non-presence are simply unbridled film adaptations of obscene anti-Soviet and Russophobic jokes that have nothing to do with reality. Some disgusting dirt!
Sergei Mikhalkov and his sons were unlucky; both are weak-willed Russophobes and anti-Sovietists.
And it is not foreign films that should be banned, but bad films, preferably at the script stage, so as not to waste budget funds.
The Ministry of Culture must protect culture and not release obscenity and slander against the USSR and Russia.

[Tartary]

Quote: Corsair5912

Please.
Little-known Lebedev made the best film of the last 10 years about our war - “Star”. According to Kazakevich.
“Joker” Ugolnikov, who would have thought, made an excellent “Brest Fortress”. Which is strange, without a single “cranberry” moment.
The voting by both critics and audiences for these films was unanimous.
As you can see: conscience, respect and love for the history of one’s country are qualities more necessary for a director making a war film than directing and producing experience.

Was the old movie bad?????????????

Quote: Corsair5912

Mikhalkov's first film "Burnt by the Sun"
slobbering nonsense, intellectual reflections of an ignorant idiot, on the topic of humanism towards the enemies of the people.

Just a question - did you watch it?????????
Judging by the pretentious comment - NO...

Quote: Corsair5912

And it is not foreign films that should be banned, but bad films, preferably at the script stage, so as not to waste budget funds. The Ministry of Culture must protect culture and not release obscenity and slander against the USSR and Russia.

Quote: Corsair5912

And it is not foreign films that should be banned, but bad films, preferably at the script stage, so as not to waste budget funds. The Ministry of Culture should protect culture and not release obscenity and slander against the USSR and Russia.

It’s terrible, what reviews..... and from you - the same...
The people, even though HE reads your custom-made lampoons, have completely different judgments...
HE people know better than you who speaks the truth...
And their “Nicks”, “Oscars”, etc. - put it in your......... - Well, where is it clear?

[Corsair5912]

Tartary, this is not my thing about Lebedev.
Tired of the sun, I watched it a long time ago, somewhere in the 90s, but I remember all that stupid intellectual nonsense about “cruel murderers from the NKVD”, composed by idiots in communal kitchens, on the basis of which a script was cobbled together about the invincible hero brigade commander ruined by Stalin’s satraps .
The people, of course, know better... And who am I, Tartary? I am the people, we are the ones whom Nikita’s films do not satisfy the majority of, and there is no other people in Russia and I hope there will not be.

[Tartary]

Quote: Corsair5912

Tired of the sun, I watched it a long time ago, somewhere in the 90s, but I remember all that stupid intellectual nonsense about “cruel murderers from the NKVD”, composed by idiots in communal kitchens, on the basis of which a script was cobbled together about the invincible hero brigade commander ruined by Stalin’s satraps .

“Burnt by the Sun. Confrontation” shows exactly what we often discuss today - namely: who is to blame for the repressions... And it turns out that today people are beginning to understand that everything was as Mikhalkov showed - neighbors, relatives, colleagues at work, etc., sat on the sidelines, but knocked in vain... And there were more such stories than Stalin’s real purge of the party and other elite of those years.
And in "Burnt by the Sun. Citadel" - the Motherland is already in a completely different situation, when the suffering scoundrels had to turn back, gritting their teeth, what they had done... In other words, Truth and Justice did triumph... At least in a single case. And so it was...
But not everyone admits that in the choir of those who were deceived, they were laying false accusations against the one whom they are missing today, which is why they perceive Mikhalkov’s cinema with hostility, although everything turned out to be simple...
Mikhalkov himself may not qualify as a genius for each individual “specialist,” but he creates a movie that is quite serious and much cooler than any of the supos(sh)tat’s “Rains,” etc., etc.
As for youthful and children's eyes, I completely agree and support them, because... the new film "Star" is very good (!), but "Burnt by the Sun" is still intended for a more mature, thinking and more or less literate viewer...
IMHO and good luck!

[Bigriver]

Quote: Tartary

Was the old movie bad?????????????

I went to the premiere of the new "Star" in the cinema. This was more than 10 years ago.
And I still remember the shocked faces of the boys and some tear-stained faces of the girls.
Do you think it would be better if such persons did not exist?

[crocodile25]

Mikhalkov, yes, he filmed x... nude, but what are they showing to our younger generation!!!

I advise you to look


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[Oleg Oka]

Mikhalkov, of course, is a snickering gentleman, and the article is necessary and smart. One thing is alarming - the mention of a certain “Goblin”, who is also against NM. "Tell me who your fellow soldier is, and I will tell you who you are friends with." I would with this evil spirits...