American patriotism through the eyes of a Russian person, or Should foreign cinema be banned?

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This article is a response to the article. "Russia really became a colony of the United States"

Scrolling Once Again news information of "Military Review" for a cup of coffee, I came across this article.

Do coincidences happen in life? I happened to them, because literally half a day before that I decided to visit the cinema and, for lack of a better one, I took a ticket to the film “Elusive”. He was the main character of the article.



So, what, in fact, speech. The author of the article, Alexander Plekhanov, actively probing all the novelties of film distribution, found in his opinion “non-patriotic Western films” and wondered: why do we let them on the screens? Wouldn't it be better to ban the display of these pictures? The aforementioned film seemed particularly antipatriotic to him.

The film is like a film. Actually, the template Hollywood style: action, shooting, snot, bad acting, a lot of stupidity and pseudo-documentary events. However, with all this, the film seemed to me more than patriotic, and in a good sense of the word ...

Yes, it happens when the author of the picture seems to be trying to convey one idea - wild American patriotism, and the result is a chaotic mixture of stupidity and parodies. In general - a funny movie.

American patriotism through the eyes of a Russian person, or Should foreign cinema be banned?


The first ridiculous scene is a mass landing of the enemy on the peacefully sleeping United States. Broken stamp, frightening everyone already a century.
In 40's, a massive Japanese landing was not expected. During the Cold War, the landing of the Soviets was not expected. Now here's a new attack. Long thought who: Russian again, or is it Chinese? It turned out the North Koreans ... But how, albeit numerous, but technically backward army, which does not have superiority even over its southern neighbor, and with the BTA fleet in the whole 3 of the Il-76 and a couple of dozen old An-2 and An-24 suddenly treacherously attacked a peaceful America? By the middle of the film they will give us a hint - they say, not without the help of the Russians. But all the same, there could not be many attackers, since there could not have been many planes.

In Russian in this stories By the way, too, has its place - they captured the entire west coast of the United States and part of the central states. Apparently, like the North Koreans, exclusively by the forces of the Airborne Forces. True, given that some of the aircraft had to be sacrificed to the "allies," the number of troops was interested. Hardly more than two divisions. Against the entire American army ... And Japan, the Republic of Korea and all NATO seems to have surrendered even earlier. Get away ...

And 10 or 20 thousands of harsh Russian paratroopers, along with the same number of paratroopers from North Korea, were able to crush more than half a million groups of US Ground Forces and as many national guardsmen ... During the day ... Taking all American equipment into trophies ... Not is there really something to be proud of?

Further we learn the details: What are American soldiers? Where are these fighters for democracy and universal happiness? It turns out they dropped an electromagnetic bomb and, of course, everything Tanks, the strikers and hammers immediately died out, the machines broke down, the grenades stopped exploding, the knives went dull, the hamburgers in the fridges went bad. In general, as always, with such a story - the Yankees do not fight ice. But the invaders immediately received trophy vehicles.

By the way, the North Koreans were surprisingly not made idiots - quite sane soldiers. And not even a single Russian was killed. Yes, and from the Russians there they showed only one paratrooper, which the "partisans" immediately ranked as the Airborne Forces Special Forces (from the 45 Guards. Special Forces regiment, perhaps?). But he turned out to be so harsh that he didn’t even participate in any shootout, but only watched and advised ... It was clear from his cold-blooded, murderous gaze that he had captured all of Washington with his own hands and burned it to the ground. Clinton era brothel - White House.

And I have only one question: why wasn’t this film made by us ???

A joke, of course, but in every joke there is some truth.

Why, instead of such films, we shoot all sorts of “Penalties” and “Burnt by the Sun”, showing our ancestors exclusively in the form of dull cannon fodder?

But we knew how to shoot. Let us recall the Soviet school of cinema: “The battalions are asking for fire” by Chebotarev, “Liberation” by Ozerov, “Some old men are going to battle”, Bykov and others. Beautiful films, classics of the genre, so to speak.

In 90, we were not in the mood for high art - everyone enthusiastically watched movies about gangsters.

At the beginning of 2000-x the situation changed, there was hope for the "recovery" of the body. The Star (2002), Off-Mission Assignment (2004), At Untitled Altitude (2004) movies have appeared.

True, then rather strange pictures began to appear again:

"Bastards" - a strange film about child criminals, which "bloody regime" sent to the last battle. The author clearly does not know that all the numerous sabotage groups, and there were many of them formed during the war, as a rule, were formed from party, ideological communists and "trustworthy" athletes.

“Shtrafbat” is a mockery of history on the part of Volodarsky and Dostal.
"Burnt by the Sun. Standing on" and "Burnt by the Sun-2. Citadel" is the most expensive and most disastrous film in the history of Russian cinema, a video collection of myths invented in the inflamed brain of Nikita Mikhalkov.

"4 of May Day" is a film about the war of "good Russians" with "good Germans" against "bad Russians" ...
These films were not created in Hollywood, they were created in Russia, with Russian actors, and were financed by our Ministry of Culture ... Maybe it's time to think about our films?

And as for Hollywood - do not bother to fill your head. He makes pictures for himself. Promotes ideas of his country. It would be strange if it were different.

And the youth? - Young people are not as stupid as some think to orient their value system for cheap foreign films.

I specifically watched the movie "5 Days in August." Pretty laughed at the director's stupidity. And I was not offended for my national dignity, because the opinion of foreigners can in no way relate to it. And can not hurt.
Then he watched the video review of Evgeny Bazhenov about this film.

Yet the Americans are funny. Stupid, but funny ...





Patriotism does not bring up on prohibitions alone. Need to do it yourself. In family. What is the use of propaganda, when each of us sees what is happening around: bribes, betrayals, conflicts, troubles, crime.

The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, and this cannot be transferred to anyone else ...
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  1. Goga
    +35
    23 March 2013 09: 25
    - Quote - "The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, ..." - everything is true, just whether we like it or not, but TV and cinema are also part of upbringing and a lot depends on whose hands they are in ... Here it is not necessary to prohibit products hostile to us, but to take away from the enemies the right to produce such products in general angry
    1. bask
      +59
      23 March 2013 09: 45
      American patriotism through the eyes of a Russian person, or Is it necessary to prohibit

      Do not prohibit, but to FILTER. Eliminating all rubbish. And Russophobia.
      And the main question about television. When these stupid ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show.dom-2 and another cosmopolitan ideological POISON developed in the Zionist centers of the United States and the CIA are finally closed. Especially dangerous for our youth.
      1. Explore
        +30
        23 March 2013 10: 34
        The main question is not even that, but rather: when will the Ministry of Culture start making normal, historical films that glorify our past, rather than lining everything exclusively in black ?!
        House 2 is a stupid transfer, but it is self-financing, it pays off.
        US-2 Mikhalkov and all the above films were created exclusively with our money, with the money of the Ministry of Culture.
        Now the question is: when will those who do not understand the negative in the creation of "reconciliation films" and "those that open their eyes to the terrible truth" disappear in the ministry? Moreover, the negative would have been historically delivered - after all, they are bullshitting ... They are bullshitting and speculating with facts ...
        1. +9
          23 March 2013 11: 10
          Not with the money of mines of the cult, but with our money. "The devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads."
          1. +3
            24 March 2013 13: 29
            I saw this film, watched it to the end with difficulty. The acting is really weak, the film is designed for the domestic audience of the United States, in the best traditions of the Cold War era. A kind of SCARE for the people.

            The author is right, but overly emotional.

            And I have only one question: why wasn’t this film made by us ???


            We still lacked such a g ... but to shoot !!! No, let's not put pressure on "Hurray for patriotism", but develop consciousness among the people, and through it, and love for the motherland.


            "Burnt by the Sun. Anticipation" and "Burnt by the Sun-2. Citadel" - the most expensive and most disastrous film in the history of Russian cinema, myth video compilation invented in Nikita Mikhalkov’s sore brain.


            The author still has to decideor mythologyor fiction of the "sore brain". If someone needs to explain this, then I am sorry for that person.
        2. +46
          23 March 2013 12: 20
          Quote: Explorar
          Now the question is: when will those who do not understand the negative in the creation of "reconciliation films" and "those that open their eyes to the terrible truth" disappear in the ministry?


          WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE !!!
          1. +8
            23 March 2013 12: 54
            Quote: kris
            WHEN THE COUNTRY'S LEADERSHIP WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE

            Probably the leadership personified itself with 90-year-old feeble old people.
            1. 0
              23 March 2013 15: 47
              in the USSR, and the old people stood, and that just didn’t give a damn about the army and the people (the people are servile army)
            2. 0
              23 March 2013 15: 48
              in the USSR, and the old people stood, and that just didn’t give a damn about the army and the people (the people are servile army)
            3. +11
              23 March 2013 15: 49
              in the USSR, and the old people stood, and that just didn’t give a damn about the army and the people (the people would be worthless and the servile army)
          2. +11
            24 March 2013 13: 24
            This guide should take a parade while sitting behind bars.
          3. Anti
            0
            24 March 2013 14: 01
            Quote: kris
            WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE !!!


            In my opinion, this relaxed state of the country's leadership (the bench doesn’t count) does not at all respect this great holiday, it’s kind of a message to those who look askance at Russia, like we’re ready, don’t even rock the boat. This is evidenced by the fact that the troops were dressed in field uniforms. Festive parade in honor of the 66th anniversary of Victory 2010
            1. Anti
              +1
              24 March 2013 14: 38
              Quote: Anti
              Festive parade in honor of the 66th anniversary of Victory 2010


              wrong. Victory Parade on May 9, 2011
            2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
              +5
              24 March 2013 17: 00
              There was a feeling that the troops had just arrived from the exit and did not have time to change clothes, no Yankees and no one humiliates our army and veterans and the people except their own drivers .....
          4. +3
            24 March 2013 14: 27
            Quote: kris


            WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE !!!
            The Victory Banner at that time was carried behind the Vlasov tricolor.
          5. NOBODY EXCEPT US
            0
            24 March 2013 16: 56
            A brother got to the point, plus a huge .....
          6. 0
            29 March 2013 11: 14
            Quote: kris
            WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE !!!

            It? Never! They only accept gay pride parades (judging by the devil-may-care-bored faces). The poor are very tired, the legs are not the same ... So they take a break from the worries of the great, they wait - when this "idiot" is over and you can stomp to the table go reign further.
        3. +6
          23 March 2013 13: 35
          Quote: Explorar
          House 2 is a stupid transfer, but it is self-financing, it pays off.


          Are you sure that it does not pay off through "appropriate sources" interested in the debauchery of the younger generation?

          Quote: Explorar
          Now the question is: when will those who do not understand the negative in the creation of "reconciliation films" and "those that open their eyes to the terrible truth" disappear in the ministry? Moreover, the negative would have been historically delivered - after all, they are bullshitting ... They are bullshitting and speculating with facts ...


          Well, this is the specific work of agents of influence. The fight with them is the same as with everyone else - HUMOR and FACTS.
        4. +6
          23 March 2013 14: 38
          When - no one will say. But there is one suggestion: rename the Ministry of Culture into the Ministry of Culture.
          1. +1
            24 March 2013 01: 37
            Quote: Sinbad
            rename the Ministry of Culture in the Ministry of Culture.
            It seems to me that it would be more accurate in the Ministry of Labor
          2. 0
            25 March 2013 21: 22
            it is necessary to change the minister. or even better to change the one who puts such ministers. that is not a minister then a thief then (censorship).
            1. 0
              25 March 2013 21: 35
              Put Dom2 in a separate paid package with channels of erotic and other contents. And this problem will be partially solved. This will be done over time. I hope ...
              1. +1
                25 March 2013 21: 47
                Quote: Dilshat

                Put Dom2 in a separate paid package
                It’s naive to think so, they’re sleeping and see how to put it on the central one. The transfer is r ..., but can you imagine the place in the ad unit in it how much does it cost?
                Yes, for such profits, the channel’s management will sell their mother and mother with joy
                They may have patriotism, but there is money right away, so what questions may be
        5. +5
          23 March 2013 15: 44
          these muaks making reconciliation films and so on. I need to tear off my mother’s handles. 2 years I was nearly driven away to Germany. I wonder what she would do there at that age. Well, at least they managed to get away from the column with my grandmother, and another grandmother was also in occupation, so a German officer forged a shepherd onto my native uncle. 3 years was so the grandmother ate managed to hide him under the skirt
          1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
            +3
            24 March 2013 17: 02
            My mother was driven west at six ... at 42nd ....
        6. Max Russian
          +5
          24 March 2013 16: 33
          We have so many of our heroes over the centuries of history that we can make dozens of powerful films. Offhand: about Suvorov (of course, not the rezun, but A.V. Suvorov), about the Crimean War, Borodino, the Battle of Kulikovo, etc. And what about Mikhalkov's "masterpieces" .... some emotions "-"
        7. nakaz
          0
          25 March 2013 17: 02
          In addition to the vaunted American missile defense landing in a puddle, allowing the landing, I don’t see anything special in this film. Ordinary heroes are victorious, killing enemies in batches. In life, they will be put in half an hour in the first battle.
      2. +18
        23 March 2013 10: 48
        And, here, I agree for this rubbish - this pornography, the so-called. "reality show" must be banned - I am in favor with both hands. And I explain why - if a film is a film, even a teenager understands that everything is “make-believe”, then these shows are “reality” because the orgies taking place on the screen are taken by immature minds at face value. And then we see young girls with a bare belly in -20 frost. Young hefty guys who basically don't want to work, etc. etc.
        Deny and remove from all channels. angry
        1. +14
          23 March 2013 11: 19
          Quote: Iraclius
          And then we see - young girls with a bare stomach in the frost -20.


          ... And then these same tearful young women at the gynecologist’s office who were killed by the verdict of doctors. However, the doctors here are not to blame. The teleconstructor who all these porno realities puke is to blame.
          1. +14
            23 March 2013 11: 50
            So I am about the same. My wife’s girlfriend just got it - everything was chasing fashion. Both ovaries were taken. Both of the same age, but mine, for some reason, walked and walks in the winter in a fur coat, and she with a bare belly. And why? But because my mother-in-law does care about her daughter. request Parenting is everything.
            1. +3
              23 March 2013 17: 09
              Quote: Iraclius
              But because my mother-in-law does care about her daughter. Parenting is everything.


              And to son-in-law? Probably also brings up laughing
            2. +6
              23 March 2013 17: 56
              Quote: Iraclius
              So I am about the same. My wife’s girlfriend just got it - everything was chasing fashion.

              My daughters also tried in my youth. but they didn’t succeed! stop Now the adults. Married already, the wind from the head basically weathered
        2. +5
          23 March 2013 15: 00
          I read the article, and came across the thought of which I had previously thought, drawing parallels between our art and foreign, I would also like to draw attention to the heroes.
          Talk about the heroes and their significance, do a debriefing, so to speak, analyze and compare. So if you take the goals and methods of foreign heroes, their human qualities, and the methods of achieving this or that goal, then you can see that robberies alone will not do here, and it's not even a matter of the need for murders shown both to the left and to the right, defeated enemies fly away from one clip in the amount of 100500, in order to enrich yourself, which is the main idea of ​​foreign films. And given the fact that all these "films" are designed for the thoughtless consumer who poured in a wave in their time, the images of foreign heroes, to put it mildly, leave much to be desired
          Our heroes are fundamentally different, and their goals and methods are different, they are more human, and they will think 300 times before killing a person, remember Danila Bodrov, when he made his way to the 100th floor to the American, he did not even begin to kill that person, and one question , "what is the strength? in the truth"
          The topic is actually extensive for research and analysis, but the essence and meaning for yourself can always be found and got to the bottom.
        3. +1
          23 March 2013 23: 12
          Quote: Iraclius
          at. And then we see - young girls

          And then answer me such a question - who bought these girls these clothes? Who let them go into the street in such clothes? Where are the mothers? Dads? I admit that there may be a situation when parents do not see what the child went to, but there are always neighbors, who will say about it .... I would try in my youth to go half-dressed for a walk (but I also wanted to wear a hat and a breeches), my mother would simply not let me out of the house until I get dressed. Moreover, I would never buy a jacket to the waist. She didn’t give a damn what was fashionable or not. She proceeded only from practicality. Once a winter, clothes should be warm and that’s all! ... So there’s one piece of advice-watch for yourself what you buy for your children.
      3. ughhh
        +11
        23 March 2013 11: 04
        Quote: bask
        Do not prohibit, but to FILTER. Eliminating all rubbish. And Russophobia.

        There were many good things in the USSR, but there were also enough nonsense. Informational, ideological blockade is one of them. "Prohibit Metallica, propaganda of sex and violence." The output was the same zombies, only the brain was scrubbed in the other direction. Remember the result? How we all over the country showed mittens from the tests after the fall of the iron wall.

        I am categorically against the fact that our state, which is not quite adequate in governance, tried to influence the upbringing of my children! Moreover, you should not climb here to all clever people from the Internet.
        I'll figure it out myself.

        ps if your children are confused by House-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.
        1. +1
          23 March 2013 13: 02
          Quote: ughhh
          ps if your children are confused by House-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.


          ONLY SO REQUIRED!
        2. +8
          23 March 2013 13: 53
          Quote: ughhh
          ps if your children are confused by House-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.


          Of course it can be so. I made it easier, explained to my children that such a "creation" is done for people with very low intelligence. And I just would be weird that my smart kids can watch this. Who will then want to look at the degrading At the same time, there are no prohibitions, only the appropriate comments from the parents.

          True, this only works if you are always honest with your children. Any tongue-tied tongue will cross your, even the most good intentions.
          1. max-02215
            -1
            23 March 2013 14: 51
            I don’t agree, following your logic, then you can show any propaganda on the TV screen, and let the eunuch, pedophilia, and other abominations show, the main thing is to explain to the child what you can watch and what is impossible — demagogy, he will not watch at home, from a friend (girlfriends) look. Try to explain to the child that any pop music is not good, I’m sure he can and will agree with you, and then look at what’s on his phone or computer.
            Something for us adults (for example) does not reach to cross the road in a fixed place, not to exceed speed, well, everyone knows who is wrong where. These pure water transfers poison and brainwashing, and they were not invented by just one person (he called them!), But by entire collectives of special services with psychologists, to explicitly prohibit
            1. +5
              23 March 2013 17: 16
              Quote: max-02215
              I don’t agree, following your logic, then you can show any propaganda on the TV screen, and let the eunuch, pedophilia, and other abominations show, the main thing to explain to the child is what can be watched and what is impossible - demagogy,


              I also do not agree. I am also against the abomination on the screens. In your opinion, if the enemy has occupied your homeland, then it is useless to explain to the children that the invaders are enemies? You may not agree, but the information from the screens, the last 20 years, is the occupation of our consciousness with the reformatting of brains from a spiritual person to a state of a brainless consumer.
              1. ughhh
                0
                24 March 2013 02: 28
                Quote: skeptic
                the occupation of our consciousness with the reformatting of the brain from a spiritual person to a state of brainless consumer

                Perfectly noticed, but! An attempt to influence this process is just an attempt to achieve a certain result, not excluding "the occupation of our consciousness with the reformatting of our brains." They hammered the brain with one .., then they began to score with another. And this object of "formatting", the viewer, cannot influence the process. Two states: watching the gum or not watching. Democracy!
              2. 0
                25 March 2013 12: 41
                National tradition, s. BEFORE the 41st, was it not enough that the party "poured boiling water on the fascists"? Really dohra met the "liberators" with a puppy squeal. "Civilizers" showed themselves to the fullest. Then it rushed ... If by the 43rd detachments and remained, then hell they had time for the troops. The veteran tanker recalled that at 43-44 sometimes they were stupid with tactics, not because they did not know, but because after the liberated village-cities, I really wanted to get to the "fascist" carcasses as soon as possible. I owe my mother's life to these guys. Zaporizhzhya region, Melitopol district, village Mordvinovka - everyone was driven into a cowshed, they were prepared to burn ALIVE. "Armor" was in time. I ask bad questions. 1. Did the commissioners have to work hard in propaganda? 2. How much do I want to hug the necks of the unfinished, proud of belonging to the "civilizers"?
            2. ughhh
              0
              24 March 2013 02: 16
              Quote: max-02215
              I don’t agree, following your logic you can, then show any propaganda on the TV screen

              Are you still watching zog-tv? Watch all kinds of nonsense being breathed in from the screen, interspersed with hours of advertising, nowadays? The last time I looked at the box was 5-7 years ago and so far the desire has not woken up. Any gum for brains can be found on the Internet, including live broadcasts of all kinds of sports stuff.
              Following my logic, the TV should be thrown out right now. Those who do not kick out will be hit by brain liquefaction. There they are dear. Natural selection, s.
              1. +1
                24 March 2013 03: 29
                Quote: ughhh
                Following my logic, the TV should be thrown right away
                "... your logic is a little wild ..." - Nekrasov "Railway"
                Is Channel 365 Thinning Brains? There are a lot of sensible ones, though there are no shaves, no, they are trying to crawl with chewing gum from the Air Force, but we must filter
                Also with Star, NanoTV and Autoplus
                They will dilute the central ones, with all kinds of vessels, cook courses and yolk, since they are disabled
        3. +4
          23 March 2013 16: 31
          Quote: ughhh
          ps if your children are confused by House-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.

          But you could download and watch the film "Solitary Swimming". Filmed in the USSR back in the 80s, and although there are enough "blunders", the film is cool and patriotic. I recommend it to everyone.
          1. ughhh
            0
            24 March 2013 02: 21
            Do not worry, I have a very large monitor and high-quality acoustics. I’ll definitely look, thanks.
        4. 0
          24 March 2013 03: 57
          I support. I do not read newspapers and do not watch TV.
        5. 0
          25 March 2013 12: 14
          You are absolutely right. Delivered - "only the scraping of the brain was in the other direction." If you don't want to be a cattle, don't act like that. If you want to be a GREAT PEOPLE - be it. I didn’t throw out the TV set - but I don’t watch the news on it. I cut into different sites. Alternative! Mozch stimulates, I hope Yes
        6. +2
          30 March 2013 03: 20
          that's what a practical person means (just kidding) - I threw mine out of the window, forgetting by the way to open it crying - and as they say in such cases - "do not try to repeat it yourself" laughing this year will be exactly 10 years - I feel wonderful for what and I wish everyone
      4. +5
        23 March 2013 11: 09
        Quote: bask
        When they finally close these numbing ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show

        Here are the golden words! What is the use of banning Western vomit if all the more or less worthy shows and films have been dispersed through specialized channels? To Star, Carousel, Culture, etc. Why on central channels are there some moronic talk shows and homemaking series and series about cops and bandits (though they are indistinguishable there)? This is the problem, and not some stupid film in which any of our schoolchildren will find nonsense (just don’t need again about the fact that our youth are the most stupid).
        1. bask
          +6
          23 March 2013 11: 36
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Why central channels have some moronic talk shows

          Channel 1 ORT should be deciphered as PUBLIC RUSSIAN TELEVISION. In the truest sense of the word !!! And not as a commercial brand.
          And on public television to go, only patriotic shows and films.
          1. +3
            23 March 2013 13: 00
            Quote: bask
            And on public television to go, only patriotic shows and films.

            I absolutely agree with you, I think a country like Russia is able to pull (and not one) a public Russian channel.
        2. +1
          23 March 2013 17: 46
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: bask
          When they finally close these numbing ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show

          Here are the golden words! What is the use of banning Western vomit if all the more or less worthy shows and films have been dispersed through specialized channels? To Star, Carousel, Culture, etc. Why on central channels are there some moronic talk shows and homemaking series and series about cops and bandits (though they are indistinguishable there)?


          But this is the right question.
          If earlier it was decided, when seizing power, to take mail, telegraph, now it’s the media. Naturally, all the main media outlets were seized in the hunchback - Yeltsin mess and agents of influence were introduced into their leadership or the previous leaders were simply bought. Accordingly, they push for the main time, programs developed at the CIA institutes for disorientation in all the main spheres of human activity - as individuals. Accordingly, patriotic programs, films are put at an uncomfortable time for viewing. Since the channels, such as Star, culture, etc. accepted in very limited regions, they simply do not pay attention to them until attention.
          1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
            +4
            24 March 2013 17: 09
            So sometimes I want to say, wake up You are raving! The Great and Terrible rules the country for the THIRTEENTH year, do you really think that there are still Yeltsin’s there? There have long been everywhere vovin and dimin classmates and relatives ..........
        3. +4
          24 March 2013 04: 18
          Quote: Vladimirets
          any our student will find
          Talked with a schoolboy:
          - Most of all I love American horror
          -Such rubbish, do you have enough control horrors?
          -And where will I still see so many killed Yankees (laughs, he doesn’t watch them)

          So not everything is lost
        4. stroporez
          0
          29 March 2013 15: 33
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Why on central channels are there some moronic talk shows and homemaking series and series about cops and bandits (though they are indistinguishable there)?

          because the current government needs a people who apologize to the Poles, and give up the Kuril Islands and any nonsense that those who hold will believe
      5. 0
        23 March 2013 20: 10
        You are right about House 2. It is interesting to look at people watching this dregs! bully
      6. The cat
        +1
        24 March 2013 01: 05
        Quote: bask
        And the main question about television. When these stupid ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show.dom-2 and another cosmopolitan ideological POISON developed in the Zionist centers of the United States and the CIA are finally closed. Especially dangerous for our youth.


        You probably do not know what kind of Dom-2 you should thank the Russian television people. And Sony even bought from NTN a license to produce this epic creation.
      7. +3
        24 March 2013 14: 01
        I raise both hands for you! Up to the stake? Until the end of our TV will be moronic "Comedy Club" and "Holidays in Mexico", "House - 2" and "Happy Together", our new movies, such as "The Best Film", "Hitler Kaput", and many similar villages. .... I have two granddaughters of a dangerous age (14 and 13 years old). I try to prevent them from watching these programs, but it's difficult. At least they did not fall under the influence of this consumer goods, but the mass of young people got hooked on it. Why not reanimate the good programs in the past, put them in a new way. After all, we had an excellent studio for youth programs, and our programs were bought for production abroad, and not like now we collect all the rubbish around the world, and especially in the USA. They all have already become there, so let's not allow our children to become like them.
      8. UPStoyan
        +2
        24 March 2013 14: 49
        If they started filming such films again, then again there was a need to keep their fellow citizens in good shape. Russia is again afraid as in Soviet times, if ordinary Americans are frightened with hordes of "Russian barbarians" on tanks, and paratroopers somewhere in Massachusetts - then things are going well for us)))
      9. AndreyAB
        +1
        28 March 2013 07: 01
        For a start. it is necessary in school textbooks to write the truth about their people, and not the truth written by the "progressive" Anglo-Saxons.
    2. +6
      23 March 2013 09: 46
      And 10 or 20 thousands of harsh Russian paratroopers, along with the same number of paratroopers from North Korea, were able to crush more than half a million groups of US Ground Forces and as many national guardsmen ... During the day ... Taking all American equipment into trophies ... Not is there really something to be proud of?


      The most amazing thing that they could. wink Thousands of 400 would have deserted from this half-million army, since they go there not for their homeland, but for money. And most ordinary Americans do not like the current federal government. There would be a desire to start, and there are enough people who want to have more than one SAGA (free army of the states of America).
      1. +2
        23 March 2013 11: 13
        Could not. Americans fight very well when they have a numerical and technical advantage. What the Yankees cannot take away is the effectiveness of the interaction between the various branches of the armed forces. And it will always be so (as long as there is not a bargaining chip).
        1. +4
          23 March 2013 18: 04
          Yes, they’re not particularly fighting, most of the soldiers drink too much, and there are more suicides than those who died in battles.
        2. 0
          23 March 2013 23: 30
          Have you tried anything? Or do you know from the movie too?
      2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        +1
        24 March 2013 17: 10
        Have you talked to ordinary Americans? Or, for the sake of a red word, we will not regret father too?
    3. +7
      23 March 2013 10: 11
      hit the enemy with his own weapon - who prevents Russian filmmakers from making films in the same vein? only give money.
      1. Explore
        +11
        23 March 2013 10: 36
        They give money. They only remove US-2, Bastards, 4 days in May, but the penal battles ...
        As an exception, only "Brest Fortress", and then it was filmed in fact by the Belarusians.
        1. +1
          24 March 2013 01: 44
          Quote: Explorar
          Bastards,
          Horror! Kunin found confusion, I can’t even believe that the author of Kysi, the Crazy and other good things could write this
          It’s like the Yankees about our life. In the DRG, only volunteers were taken, what was the use of the saboteur as a threat to the enemy’s rear
      2. vilenich
        +1
        23 March 2013 11: 14
        Yes, it’s time to take on the current filmmakers!
        I am once again convinced how they were right in the USSR, when individual films were not released, but put on the shelf! During the rampant perestroika, they were released on the screens, and where are these masterpieces prohibited by the "vile censorship"! I'm not a film critic, but nothing comes to mind except for a few more or less normal films.
        So it’s time for today's filmmakers to stop showing off when they don’t know what else to come up with, what vile vices to bring to the screen! I am generally silent for Mikhalkov, forcing him to pass an exam in the history of the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR, and the Russian Federation, and only in case of a positive result should he be allowed to continue his activities under strict control!
      3. +4
        23 March 2013 11: 39
        There are no filmmakers. This one is nasty, Mikhalkovskoe, there is, but there are no filmmakers. To make a movie, a "creator" is not enough, the director is a lesser and less important part of a real film.
        How does Hollywood do this? Two cash flows are washed there. The flow of drug mafia and the flow of the CIA-NSA. The director takes the withers with an iron hand and, without deviating anywhere, clearly takes off what was ordered to him, observing completely iron rules and restrictions. Drug traffickers are allowed to launder billions (they own movie theaters, and they release symbols and puppets and the devil’s devil. Everything where you can drain the cash flow and make it revenue) for a strict ideological orientation and embedding in the film installations approved by specialists.
        Intelligence agencies also wash billions, and often narcotic too, it's just an operational reserve and maneuverable money, they overthrow, bribe and pay for the murderers without reporting to Congress. The restrictions are the same, they just gladly advise the militants. As a result, the action movie is even more stupid (why should they shine real techniques), but with such a characteristic touch ... like "Mr. and Mrs. Smith".
        The task of the director is to make a hit, or at least a strong middle peasant, so that there are grounds for money laundering. As you can see there is no place for "art", let alone "creative freedom" ...
        To make a film that is normal in viewing, the director least needs freedom. He inevitably slips into disgust, simply because creativity and discipline are antagonists. A bad thing is much easier to do. There is no iron hand guiding the director with a grip on the back of his head, there is no one to periodically gently tap on the snout - there is no movie. And there will be ....
      4. +3
        23 March 2013 14: 01
        Quote: self-propelled

        hit the enemy with his own weapon - who prevents Russian filmmakers from making films in the same vein? only give money.


        I completely agree with the first half. But with the second ... We have not made a lot of stupid, or rather simply enemy films, for the money of the state?
      5. djon3volta
        -3
        23 March 2013 17: 48
        Quote: self-propelled
        who prevents Russian filmmakers from making films in the same vein

        filmed, for example, AUGUST EIGHT good the exact opposite of "5 days of August"
        or "07-th changes course" about the TU-160 cool film.
        1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          +1
          24 March 2013 17: 14
          August XNUMXth-TALE. !!! The rest of the above have not seen .... I can not say anything ....
          1. +3
            24 March 2013 23: 16
            Quote: NOBODY BUT US
            August XNUMXth-TALE. !!!

            Personally, I liked it! good
    4. +4
      23 March 2013 10: 26
      Quote: Gogh
      here it is not necessary to prohibit products that are hostile to us, but to take away from enemies the right to produce such products in general

      any prohibition will cause even greater interest. patriotism among our youth must be developed. so that they love their homeland, and not obscurant ... on every corner. so that they do not run after Western pseudo-values ​​(with their same-sex marriages and gay parades), but value their own, native. and for this we need a powerful support
      1. +1
        23 March 2013 23: 42
        Quote: self-propelled
        go need a powerful support

        To do this, we need normal parents, first of all, so that they don’t say one thing at home, but do something else. They probably heard a Russian proverb, teach while lying across the bench. So it is. What will be sown at that age will continue to grow.
      2. stroporez
        0
        29 March 2013 15: 40
        need not
        Quote: self-propelled
        this needs a powerful support
        and tyma ...
        Schaub at the head of the shoto was
    5. +10
      23 March 2013 10: 44
      I agree with the author. This article is written in a more even style with a lack of excessive emotionality. To the author plus.
      He expressed his position yesterday and there is no point in repeating. The worldview of the younger generation with proper upbringing is really formed not by TV screens. We need to teach and raise children. Fortunately, while on the Internet you can find all the old and not very, but really patriotic works of art. Best of all, my point of view was long ago expressed by the Soviet Russian poet Alexander Yashin:

      In our myriad wealth
      Precious words are:
      Fatherland,
      Fidelity,
      Brotherhood.
      And there is also:
      Conscience,
      Honour...
      Ah, if everyone understood
      That these are not just words,
      Whatever troubles we have avoided.
      And it is not just words!
      1. +3
        24 March 2013 01: 47
        Quote: Iraclius
        expressed the Soviet Russian poet Alexander Yashin:

        In our myriad wealth
        Precious words are:
        Fatherland,
        Fidelity,
        Brotherhood.
        And there is also:
        Conscience,
        Honour...
        Ah, if everyone understood
        That these are not just words,
        Whatever troubles we have avoided.
        And it is not just words!

        The school will not work, no tolerance
        and now her lessons are being held
    6. +1
      23 March 2013 11: 15
      Quote: Gogh
      - Quote - "The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, ..." - everything is true, just whether we like it or not, but TV and cinema are also part of upbringing and a lot depends on whose hands they are in ... Here it is not necessary to prohibit products hostile to us, but to take away from the enemies the right to produce such products in general angry
      My opinion is, let them take off what they want, and our Ministry of Education and Science should educate and raise patriots and not what is now successfully done thanks to the Fursenko freaks. And we ourselves need to teach our children to love our homeland!
    7. +2
      23 March 2013 11: 21
      It turned out to be North Koreans ... But how, albeit a large, but technically backward army, which does not even have superiority over its southern neighbor, and with the BTA fleet in as many as 3 Il-76 aircraft and a couple of dozen old An-2 and An-24 treacherously attacked peaceful America? By the middle of the film, they will give us a hint - they say, not without the help of the Russians. But still, there couldn’t be many attackers, since there couldn’t be many planes either.
      There is an answer - initially the Chinese army should have been in the film, but the Chinese menacingly narrowed their eyes and ops Koreans .... (this is a question of respect).
      Then I remembered the Stealth film - I didn’t understand at the cinema why our identifying signs are on the Korean Drying Hole - and then I turned on the English track on the disk - so there our plane and stealth flew to Russia - that’s how our translators and understudies fight against injustice. (although there we are not bad).
      1. +3
        23 March 2013 11: 58
        Lelikas "There is an answer - initially the film was supposed to be the Chinese army, but the Chinese squinted menacingly and the ops-Koreans .... (this is the question of respect)."
        You're right! And there is.
    8. -1
      23 March 2013 13: 20
      Quote: Gogh
      It is not necessary to prohibit products that are hostile to us, but to take away from the enemies the right to produce such products in general


      I agree, it is not necessary to ban. There is a very interesting idea in the struggle - the use of the enemy’s energy, with the easy addition of your own, in the direction you already need. It is less costly, but more effective. Correctly put comments can make the most dangerous thing funny. The main processing, if not in advance, then in support. The main thing is that really smart people with a great sense of humor do this.
    9. Natalia
      +2
      23 March 2013 21: 36
      Yeah, the movie "5 days in August" is nonsense .... I still plucked up the courage and looked, well, breeeeed ...... and there is nothing to say.
      And I probably do not agree with the author of the article in the part that we do not have modern patriotic films, on the contrary there are such films:
      say Sea Devils ..... about combat swimmers, all five parts plus, also Sea Devils Tornado, as well as full-length films Sea Devils: Fates
      1. +9
        24 March 2013 08: 41
        Let me argue ...
        I go to sea for 27 years.
        And when I see the creations of filmmakers about sailors, about the life, life and work of sailors, I want to cry with laughter and embarrassment for such creations.
        I can only imagine what real commandos think about the series "Sea Devils". Although not looking particularly closely, you come across bloopers in the script, motivation. outfit, etc.
        It is necessary to separate propaganda and creativity.
        And you can also ask: "How are they doing?"
        Let me give you an example on Norwegian TV.
        Throughout Norway, only 3 (three) open channels. Free. Digital.
        One of the three (open) channels is "farmed out" for children: from 6 am to 6 pm ONLY CHILDREN'S programs are broadcast.
        On weekends, especially on days of significant sporting events including national ones, only SPORT on two channels is broadcast. Only news is wedged in. These days are announced - SPORTS.
        There is NOT ONE SHOW in the OPEN channels of Norwegian TV in the spirit of House-2, Let's fool around (get married), Speak and show the canoe ...
        Output.
        The Norwegian government brought ALL DUSABLE channels to the paid broadcasting network: do you want to watch erotica, English football, national giographs from discovery, etc. - PAYMENTS.
        But even on paid channels, the level of "beyond" is censored.
        About TV of the British Isles, he wrote earlier.
        Summary.
        The process of raising children in the spirit of respect for their country begins in the family ("Where does the Motherland begin ...").
        "At the exit" we get what we cherished and cherished all the childhood and adolescence of the child.
        .. "and we recognize it by its fruits ..."
        1. -2
          24 March 2013 10: 42
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          I can only imagine what real commandos think about the series "Sea Devils". Although not looking particularly closely, you come across bloopers in the script, motivation. outfit, etc.


          They will say: "Well done, the less the enemy knows about the work of the special services, the better." Have you ever wondered why criminality used to decrease during the show hours, "Experts are leading the investigation"? Then it was the only opportunity to find out how the investigation was being conducted, which allowed the criminals to draw appropriate conclusions. The prison was called a "university" in which the convicts, as at the symposium, shared their best practices, studied mistakes. Now "educational program" from every screen, for any type of crime. Draw conclusions how much "easier" it is for investigators to work with such a surrounding infe.
          1. +4
            24 March 2013 11: 10
            Well yes...
            It remains to "cover" the Internet - how much is impermissible to dig up here ...
            At the same time leave a couple of official TV channels ....
            Propaganda must be beautiful and honest.
            1. 0
              24 March 2013 20: 27
              Quote: stalkerwalker

              Well yes...
              It remains to "cover" the Internet - how much is impermissible to dig up here ...
              At the same time leave a couple of official TV channels ....
              Propaganda must be beautiful and honest.


              maybe for starters:
              power must be beautiful and honest
              1. +1
                24 March 2013 21: 16
                Quote: kris
                power must be beautiful and honest
                What are you talking about, when and where? Unless in the city of the sun, and then only in a fantasy called utopia
                1. +4
                  25 March 2013 11: 27
                  Guys!
                  Maybe it's just a dream ....
                  But only at GAZPROM dreams can come true ...
              2. AndreyAB
                0
                28 March 2013 07: 04
                Beautiful in what sense? There’s even a war in the cinema, and the one that turned out to be glamorous, with a happy end.
        2. Natalia
          0
          24 March 2013 10: 47
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Let me argue ... I have been walking in the sea for 27 years. And when I see the creations of filmmakers about sailors, about the life, life and work of sailors, I want to cry with laughter and embarrassment for such creations. I can only imagine what they think about the TV series "Sea Devils" real special forces. Although not looking particularly closely, you come across bloopers in the script, motivation. outfit, etc.

          Firstly, you still don’t understand anything ........
          The same REMBO, I can imagine what real commandos think of him. However, there is such a film, and there are many of them, and they inspire in the minds and hearts of new generations an image of the invincibility and power of their country and their people, and this image in the future becomes fundamental ..... and people begin to believe that yes, there is here is such a kind of hero, or maybe several of them, who can stack enemies in stacks ..... and do not give a damn about what you will shout and ridicule, people will be happy to watch such films as: Hard Nut, GI Joe, Rambo and etc., and everyone doesn’t give a damn that this is not true, these films are brought up I generation ..........
          However, when you try to create something domestic, something of your own, which shows the superiority of precisely Russian weapons, the Russian army, there are nonsense people like you and start to ridicule such ideas, and I do not care about your opinion ..... because of films like SPECIALIZATION, Sea Devils, even the same Apocalypse Code must be larger, real victories are won in the minds and hearts of people, and this is why people need to be shown that we are so strong and that we are capable of much.
          1. +4
            24 March 2013 11: 06
            ... It seems to me that we speak different languages ​​...
            Unfortunately...
            1. Natalia
              +1
              24 March 2013 13: 36
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              It seems to me that we speak different languages ​​... Unfortunately ...

              And maybe fortunately ...... ciao
              1. +4
                24 March 2013 14: 08
                It will be right WELCOME
      2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        -1
        24 March 2013 17: 16
        Tales for young people ......
      3. -1
        24 March 2013 23: 19
        Quote: Natalia
        say Sea Devils .....

        Well, if "August the eighth" is nonsense, then the Sea Devils even defy definition! negative
        1. Natalia
          0
          25 March 2013 11: 13
          Quote: ultra
          Well, if "August the eighth" is nonsense,

          ......... I said "5 days in August" - learning to read, this is the first thing.
          ...... I’d rather watch Russian nonsense than American nonsense - this is secondly.
          1. +4
            25 March 2013 11: 30
            It doesn’t matter whose production the nonsense is viewed on screens and monitors.
            A man watches what he likes.
            And if nonsense sorted by nationality of production ....
            Oh. I'm afraid that here the doctors are powerless ... wassat
            1. Natalia
              0
              25 March 2013 19: 14
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              It doesn’t matter whose production Brad is watched on screens and monitors. A person watches what he likes.

              I remember you, you are the very TROLL that does not skimp on verbal diarrhea.
    10. densiaophyng
      +1
      24 March 2013 00: 03


      America war Korea no Russia no stupid
    11. yak69
      +1
      24 March 2013 23: 20
      Quote: Gogh
      it’s necessary to take away from enemies the right to produce such products in general

      Remember how the great Lenin said at the dawn of the era of cinema? "The most important of the arts for us is CINEMA"
      He already understood what power movie production represents. Soviet cinema and animation was given the most serious state attention! For each picture and cartoon music was written by the best composers. Symphony orchestras voiced it. We wrote songs that became hits for all time - we still sing them. Before each picture, the director and screenwriter were required to study the material in the archives and shoot in consultation with professional consultants. Attention was paid to every detail of the interior and clothing. In short, everything was adult.
      Now we see dirt, lies, falsehood and vulgarity! Of the latest films, very few are worthy of thoughtful viewing - "The Island", "How I Spent This Summer" and "Twelve" (with a stretch). All!! The rest is serials that nasty Soviet life, vulgarity about the modern rich, stupid serials for housewives and a cruel and moronic abomination for little ones - all kinds of transformers and Shreks (developing pathological cruelty and early sexual preoccupation!).
      All this is the result of the titanic work of numerous agents of influence and the liberal fall, calling itself the creative intelligentsia that has captured our cultural space and is successfully destroying it. Different Iksanovs, shvydki and Serebryannikovs, their faces alone are worth something !! (they took Russian surnames for cover) You look and immediately everything becomes clear - why are they here and whose program they are executing.
      In our family, we all protect our grandchildren from this dirt. They look ours, dear and kind. When they grow up, let them make their own choices, but for now we can protect - we will protect as much as possible.

      Need censorship, oh how it is!
    12. +1
      25 March 2013 01: 03
      Let the enemies do anything, but do not let them go to your home - this is our area of ​​responsibility. And then the demand will be with us.
      I personally replaced the TV with Christ and His Bible. I advise everyone.
      My children will see TV only in the picture.
      At present, we are raising 2 children with my wife, in May the third.
      So everything goes according to God's plan.
  2. Alexey Prikazchikov
    +11
    23 March 2013 09: 27
    The hammer author wrote everything correctly. And then they got already dible articles with authors whiners.
    1. Explore
      +5
      23 March 2013 10: 38
      Thank. I apologize in advance for possible grammatical, punctuation and speech errors that were encountered in the text. Just expressed his opinion.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        0
        23 March 2013 11: 17
        I myself am still literate. wink
  3. +3
    23 March 2013 09: 32
    These are not the times and opportunities now, as you prohibit. You have to do yours and bring up your childhood so that someone else’s not watched
    I’ve been 10 years old like no Hollywood ode I have seen a homosexual, and it’s not
    There is something to see, but so few
    1. Trance
      +4
      23 March 2013 09: 45
      Quote: Denis
      These are not the times and opportunities now, as you prohibit. You have to do yours and bring up your childhood so that someone else’s not watched
      I’ve been 10 years old like no Hollywood ode I have seen a homosexual, and it’s not
      There is something to see, but so few


      Denis, watch the Syrian video wink
      ё, there the soldiers dispersed, hammering evil spirits in the tail and in the mane http://www.syriantube.net/3059.html soldier
      1. Rustiger
        +2
        23 March 2013 10: 34
        "Denis, watch the Syrian video"

        Here is collected a lot on Syria. There are even comical (If I may say so about the war) cases with dumb ---- ami- "militants"

        http://evavalid.blogspot.ru/search?q=%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F
      2. +1
        24 March 2013 01: 50
        Quote: Trance
        hammer evil spirits in the tail and mane
        Fine! Good luck to them!
        thank you
    2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      0
      24 March 2013 17: 20
      You modest him not a little, he simply does not exist .......
  4. vladsolo56
    +10
    23 March 2013 09: 40
    I agree one hundred percent, always argued that we need to put our films with our heroes. I recall our childhood as we absorbed the best of films: Alexander Nevsky, Chapaev, and a lot of other things. I look at modern Russian cinema and am amazed at who the heroes to follow, bandits, drinking cops, prostitutes, silly families. The most important thing in all modern films is that everything revolves around money. Money for today is the main character of all films, the most popular and sought after. Money turns into God, he needs to be worshiped, he can punish or have mercy, everything is in him and he must subordinate his whole life.
    1. +1
      23 March 2013 10: 19
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Money turns into God

      The famous biblical golden calf. About which the Bible tirelessly warns us. But we, as always, are stubbornly deaf and blind. Give money, little money, not enough, not enough laughing
  5. 0
    23 March 2013 09: 44
    Hollywood drives his movies into complete dullness: a new weapon destroys the entire defense! BUT! As we see later - over the city flying fighter(I don’t remember, like "Horrent"), after which, a handful of shkoloty smash the army, which with a landing (ie without heavy weapons) bent over the most armed country in ... fellow
    1. Explore
      +2
      23 March 2013 10: 41
      Come on. Without shkolota, American censorship would not have missed the film. After all, the money allocated for the promotion of patriotism.
      And since there is enough stupidity in all American films, it’s time to get used to it.
      Alas, we are not far from them.
      1. 0
        23 March 2013 14: 12
        Quote: Explorar
        And since there is enough stupidity in all American films, it’s time to get used to it.
        Alas, we are not far from them.


        More precisely, we come if we do not return to the origins.
  6. +1
    23 March 2013 09: 47
    Well done SEREGA! ++++
    He himself spoke briefly about this in the above article! As she said ... it doesn’t matter - you need to be able not only to wipe yourself, but also to apply it yourself.
  7. +6
    23 March 2013 09: 47
    Soon the anniversary of the beginning of the First World War. I have a suggestion: let them make a film based on the attack of the dead. They deserve it - little-known heroes of a forgotten war. If it's cool to make a soldier Rain with a Rambo, they will nervously smoke on the sidelines. Who has the opportunity to throw a thought to Medinsky, he, judging by his books, is a real patriot.
    1. +1
      23 March 2013 09: 58
      Quote: FC Skif
      I have a suggestion: let them make a film based on the attack of the dead.

      Something Already Have
      Attack of the dead
    2. -1
      23 March 2013 11: 16
      It would be great.
    3. -3
      23 March 2013 13: 07
      By the way, about the dead. Have you heard about the movie "Abraham Lincoln - Vampire Hunter"? laughing Americans are now in a state of little children. There, even some quite grown-up dads and aunts seriously believe that the first presidents fought against evil spirits. Therefore, such box office.
      attacks of the dead

      Are you talking about the heroic defense of the Osovec fortress?
      Yes, in our history, for each episode, you can shoot thousands of beautiful and patriotic films. Look at the directors? Who do we have?
      Over the past many years, only the White Tiger of K. Shakhnazarov looked - the impressions are contradictory.
      1. +3
        24 March 2013 01: 53
        Quote: Iraclius
        Americans are now in a state of little kids
        I would like it to be in senile senility. Children, if all is well, grow up and grow wiser, but after old age ...
    4. Kaa
      +3
      23 March 2013 13: 10
      Quote: FC Skif
      I have a suggestion: let them make a film based on the attack of the dead

      There is another suggestion: the events in Osovce are still a heroic but local episode of that war. And if you shoot a multi-part episode, about the war of the Yudenich army in 1915-1916 against the Turks - several difficult battles, the taking of fortresses, amphibious assaults, winter mountain crossings, Cossack patrols near Baghdad ... mmm, you’ll download what kind of shooting in the Caucasus you can organize .. .with subtext for both the Caucasian-Transcaucasian peoples and Turkey ... in general, the most successful operations of the Russian army of the 1st World War ... are worse than the Brusilovsky breakthrough ... and then in historiography they are reluctant to write about it (well, Yudenich then Petrograd almost didn’t take it), and most people have no idea what turmoil the Turks were repairing there and how hundreds of thousands of prisoners surrendered ...
      1. +1
        23 March 2013 13: 55
        Yeah. Look what they did to Bayazet. Caucasus, Turks, Cossacks, assaults ... recourse
  8. +4
    23 March 2013 09: 48
    Yesterday I commented on an article about the colonization of Russia. here they are these quotes. In our country, modern filmmakers have become Rukozhop’s in an instant. Watch films of recent years. This is a complete zvizdets. Such as the recent Chapaev - erotica, the White Tiger - fantasy, a separate conversation about Bastards, and At an unnamed height, these films seem to be funded by Russian crime, they say they also contributed to the Second World War. Although everyone knows this contribution. Robberies and murders. It’s time to return censorship for a long time, otherwise it will be like in a joke about Vovochka, where he tried the Bible, to reduce to the genitals. Here is the second quote. But how, and who, should fight this disgrace on TV? It is a pity there is no past censorship on TV. I would like to add animation here, this is generally a separate topic for discussion, although the subtext for the multi-console is the same as the entire European dermocracy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3du2BnS4pIk
    1. +1
      23 March 2013 20: 52
      Quote: Sirocco
      Yesterday I commented on an article about the colonization of Russia .... [/ b]

      I do not argue that there are quite a lot of mediocre films that do not carry any meaning, which are tetras of the absurd, but there are also normal patriotic films, for example, the Brest Fortress, the Thunderstorm Gate, and August the eighth, the stick with the boy and his fantasies about robots is bent, but also pretty good film, 9th company even though the story is completely reversed, in general, the quality of the film turned out to be good, still it would have been filmed according to real history, it would have been great, well, the films "We are from the future" and "Fog" are pretty good films that are desirable to view. Yes, undoubtedly in comparison with Soviet cinema, such films as Liberation, They fought for their homeland, Only old people go to battle, etc., of course, the current films do not hold out, but still there are projects worthy of attention.
  9. +4
    23 March 2013 09: 50
    All right, brief, sober and not scary. I repeat the censorship and the prohibitions on do not make sense, in the age of internet, everyone will choose. Time itself will put everything in its place. And as for patriotism, with such a GLORIOUS REAL history as ours, we have no other way.
    1. Explore
      0
      23 March 2013 10: 52
      A hilarious commentary on the dangers of Hollywood propaganda:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWHNKW5Ikhw
  10. opkozak
    +6
    23 March 2013 09: 51
    Where does Russian cinematography look? Where are our alternative scenarios? The best military topics, at best about the Great Patriotic War. And what about Korea, Vietnam, Angola, Cuba? Amers in "The Hunt for Red October", in Gebel's style, showed the feat of the sailors and distorted the truth. They have propaganda and censorship, and no one in the States will show "Case in square 36-80". Remove "Brother 3", show all the rot of America!
  11. +3
    23 March 2013 09: 51
    myth video compilation invented in Nikita Mikhalkov’s sore brain
    Regarding this celebrity I agree completely. On the authority of previous generations you will not go far !!! But why did he climb onto Olympus SKR again? Apparently, in this union of filmmakers, principle is absent, as is responsibility for the most important art that the previous government has brought to its knees.
  12. +1
    23 March 2013 10: 00
    funded by our Ministry of Culture ... Maybe it's time to think about our films?

    And at the same time about the Ministry of Culture itself
  13. +4
    23 March 2013 10: 06
    Article plus. Only we ourselves and only in the family will be able to raise real people. The main thing is to apply a soul, not a mathematical calculation, and then all American propaganda will fly upside down.
    So what if they're not making good films now? After all, they have already been removed. Who's stopping you to take a disc with the movie "Liberation" into the video player with your own hands instead of some cheap rembo. Trust me, it helps. Or a book - reading "Not In The Lists" written almost 40 years ago forever discourages me from reading cheap detective stories and other tabloid novels. Because the books written by the Master and the films directed by the Artist will always attract attention, incomparably more than all the Pindos .. in the ascents .. they. The main thing is not to be lazy and focus attention in time
  14. +5
    23 March 2013 10: 10
    I agree with the author of the article. I read somewhere that Russians are inherent in the ability to "self-delve", it is important for us to understand ourselves, in our history, and be sure to find the truth, and often everyone has their own truth, therefore, I think such films appear in our country. And not only films, but, for example, books, which say that under Stalin, half of the people sat, the rest guarded. We need to be more patriotic, more patriotic.
    But I would like to mention a couple of very good ones: "In June 41", "Stormy Gates", and I especially liked the film "Brest Fortress"! I advise everyone to watch, I consider one of the best Russian films about the war.
  15. +3
    23 March 2013 10: 14
    Quote: vladsolo56
    I look at modern Russian cinema and marvel at who the heroes are to follow, bandits, drinking cops, prostitutes, silly families. The most important thing in all modern films is that everything revolves around money. Money for today is the main character of all films, the most popular and sought after. Money turns into God, he needs to be worshiped, he can punish or have mercy, the whole essence is in him and he needs to subordinate his whole life


    There were, are and will be good domestic films a simple example:

    Tell me the American, what is the strength! Is it in the money? So the brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? I think that power is in the truth: whoever has the truth is stronger! So you deceived someone, made money, and why - have you become stronger? No, I didn’t, because there is no truth for you! And the one whom he deceived is behind him the truth! So he is stronger!
    1. vladsolo56
      0
      23 March 2013 10: 19
      ask today's 15 year olds who Bodrov is and who saw the film Brother and Brother 2. I doubt that there will be many.
      1. +1
        23 March 2013 10: 37
        Believe me, such films remain for a long time and bite into memory.
      2. +6
        23 March 2013 13: 11
        My nephew (13 years) watched and is watching Bodrov’s films. And dragged him into quotes. hi
        You will be surprised, but he reads Pikul, reads B. Vasiliev, reads Soviet science fiction ... Pah-pah, so as not to jinx the guy. As long as children are born and raised by adequate parents, our country has hope and future.
    2. Fox
      0
      23 March 2013 11: 21
      Quote: krokodil25
      Tell me American, what’s the power?

      and now this film is banned from showing on TV ...
      1. -1
        23 March 2013 13: 56
        Where does the information come from? belay I hear it for the first time.
        1. 0
          23 March 2013 14: 22
          Alas, turn the Fox. Not highly recommended. And there are a few, not very recommended. wink
          1. +2
            23 March 2013 18: 33
            On one of the federal television channels, on New Year's holidays, Brother and Brother showed 2
  16. Rustiger
    +6
    23 March 2013 10: 18
    I think that American people in general do not care what is happening in Russia and who the Russians are. But still their media, textbooks and films do "good" angry work, unobtrusively creating a negative image of Russia and the Russians, which sits with them somewhere deep in the subcortex. I think that the first association with the words Russia and Russians among American inhabitants, especially those older, is still communism, which is an absolutely terrible and hostile phenomenon for their way of life. I don’t know how many generations must change in order for this to change, and whether it will change at all.

    I read somewhere for interest again. We asked American students (300 (?) People, ages 21 to 26) to name five things that come to their minds when they talk about Russia: frost and vodka are leading - two-thirds named frost, half named vodka. Also, half remembered something from the past of the Cold War (Stalin, communism, the Cold War, the KGB, AK-47, etc.). Every third person remembered something from a typical Russian - nesting dolls, hats with earflaps, Russian roulette, bathhouse, tsars, etc., of which only one person named bears and no one remembered about the balalaika. A third was named American films with Russian heroes, a quarter - space exploration. Every seventh person remembered sports, the same amount remembered architecture, and the same amount remembered the weak economy. Only two people recalled some of the scandals - about Litvinenko, about Kursk.

    Damaged nation of a typical rabble. Every year they actively confirm this. By all means. . .
    And someone else is trying to "TAKE AN EXAMPLE" from THIS (you can't call it otherwise....) Ugh. ...
  17. +1
    23 March 2013 10: 25
    The most patriotic detail is the Kalashnikov assault rifle
    1. bask
      +9
      23 March 2013 10: 49
      Quote: SPACE
      The main detail is the Kalashnikov assault rifle

      ADD NOTHING.
      1. -1
        23 March 2013 11: 15
        I would raise the fire switch a little bit higher ....
  18. +2
    23 March 2013 10: 33
    I agree with the author. After reading the previous article, similar thoughts arose.
    That author proposed to "ban" America by censoring films and so on.
    In return, except for "Red Devils" nothing came to his mind. Americans have a slightly different perception of the world than Russians. Hollywood gives out different products to the mountain for internal consumption and for external consumption. This film prepares American public opinion for a possible showdown with North Korea on the principle - they attacked us in the cinema. The Russian bear is a Hollywood stamp, without it the sun will not rise in the east. From the outside, of course, it's funny, but America is in a fever from real schoolchildren with machine guns. I would not be surprised if they have them in an unspoken ban for rental (or really stupid). But the funds spent on filming should be paid by the cashier. Getting the film to us is just an attempt to save the business and any censor would be offered an adequate kickback.
    Does that author want to be such a censor? Then what does patriotic movements and howling under a tambourine have to do with it?
    And I personally liked the scene from "Back to the Future", when modern young "Bandera" members were given arms and offered to personally shoot unarmed people in the moat, incl. and the mascals. But this is for me. Viewing in America would completely disrupt the annual enrollment in the army, and in our country it would increase the percentage of alternative workers.
    1. bask
      +4
      23 March 2013 11: 01
      Quote: shurup

      . Russian bear - Hollywood stamp, without it the sun in the east n

      The question immediately arises. Who created this stamp. And who owns the leading Hollywood film studios.
      And they belong mainly to the Jews. With dense Russophobic views. .this is a family business .. Therefore, these gentlemen will never change their views
      WE NEED YOUR STAMP IN THE CINEMA - A STUPID, GREEDY Amer !!!
      American Bear, Our answer to Hollywood.
      1. 0
        23 March 2013 12: 37
        do not touch the bears they are ours
  19. sashka
    +1
    23 March 2013 10: 33
    It is necessary. Especially to "clean" the min.cult. Show "Rambo" on OFFICIAL channels.
    1. rereture
      +6
      23 March 2013 11: 06
      Rimbaud's first blood. A Vietnam war veteran goes against the system, killing police officers and terrorizing the city. But the rest of the shit.
      1. not good
        +3
        23 March 2013 12: 38
        When serving as an emergency, they looked with Rimbaud's co-workers, where he almost dispersed the US with a club, there was such bitterness at the Americans, for whom they were holding us. They only began to love their homeland.
  20. -3
    23 March 2013 10: 34
    At the expense of "Burnt by the sun. Anticipation" and "Burnt by the sun-2. Citadel" the author clearly got excited.
    1. Explore
      +3
      23 March 2013 11: 38
      Excuse me, what? Do you think these films are true?
      Good. I will not convince you.
      Penalty battalion, sailing tanks, the death of a company of cadets, boobs, attack of soldiers with sticks, drunk Russian generals and German officers listening to the wagner. As they say - all according to secret documents ...
      Find "Mikhalkov's Victory Day" in two parts by the same Evgeny Bazhenov. He reviewed the first film.
      Find "Goblin's Review of the Citadal" by Dmitry "Goblin" Puchkov. He reviewed the film second.
    2. +4
      23 March 2013 13: 07
      Quote: andrey777
      On account of "Burnt by the Sun. Anticipation"

      After watching this "movie" I felt ashamed of Mikhalkov!
      1. +4
        23 March 2013 13: 43
        I also felt ashamed of the first part of Burnt by the Sun.
        1. jjj
          -3
          24 March 2013 01: 18
          Looked at Mikhalkovskaya "Citadel" once, then a second. There is no fiction. I knew about half of the episodes by the 30th anniversary of the Victory: a bomb in a church, a naval mine with detonation and generally naval episodes, a case with a mine that my daughter stepped on, but in reality there was a “frog” mine, Kremlin cadets.
          As for the criminals, not a few of them fought. These are the so-called - "twisted". After the war, they were returned to the camps. And in the camps, wars began between "thieves" and "bitches". The combat experience of the "bitches" who were supported by those imprisoned for crimes after the war cleared out a lot of thieves. In general, after the war, there was even an uprising of convicts in Komi in the North.
          If the Mikhalkovsky film is shown again, I will watch it. Somehow it captures and does not open immediately. Although the film contains enough "Mikhalkovism", it is a patriotic film with a philosophical overtones, it cannot be put on a par with "Penal Battalion".
          1. +4
            24 March 2013 09: 31
            Add to the above ....
            My father, who fought from 1942 to 1945, answered all my questions about the veracity of films about the war (it took place in the late 60s, "The Chronicle of a Dive Bomber", "War is like a war" - and you won’t say that the films are unsuccessful), modestly averted his eyes, and replied that it was all wrong.
            About his father - an artilleryman. On his account, being a gunner, and then a gun commander of 8 German tanks, I include one "Panther".
            Victory, at the age of 21 year, met near Berlin. In a berth with a German - he told me, 8-year-old boy himself told.
            Output.
            Do not judge strictly the Mikhalkov brothers, Shakhnazarov and our other filmmakers - they are what they are.
            9 company, Roadblock, White Tiger, Citadel with the Anticipation - maybe not the best films.
            But we are all different.
            And I find it difficult to reproach the aforementioned directors, including Bondarchuk Jr. with Rogozhkin in the absence of patriotism.
            Separately about "Penal Battalion".
            Father himself, in his words, in the very first battle as part of a marching company in the spring of 1942, fled to the attack on a minefield with SVT in his hands.
            In that battle, he received from a German (when they reached the German trenches - who ran) a grenade with a long handle on his head (before the attack he didn’t put on his helmet - he was dude).
            For especially corrosive I will continue - after this battle the remnants of the marching company were disbanded. Father, as literate enough (he graduated from the beginning of the war 7 classes) was sent to serve in IPTAP.
            But that's another story ...
            1. -6
              24 March 2013 14: 45
              Each has its own war; there were those who ended the war in Prague, and there were those who ended up in a German woman. There were enough criminal bastards. It is a pity that some of them survived and gave birth to "worthy descendants".
              1. +4
                24 March 2013 16: 32
                Zink behind the geyser, jerk ...
  21. +2
    23 March 2013 10: 34
    Well, this flick is a remake of the 80s movie of the same name, Red Dawn. So, in that film, an introduction was given, which told about what was happening in the world at the time the events of the film began.
    And it said that the Russians invaded the United States through Mexico and Canada, as well as from Cuba.
    And in this film, the authors somehow missed it.
    In general, the powerful landing scene is a reference to games like Call of duty Modern Warfare and partly Homefront
  22. rereture
    +10
    23 March 2013 10: 35
    Now is the age of the Internet, television has faded into the background, everyone chooses what to watch, what to read, whom to believe. Plus, we are subconsciously proud of our country, here are examples.
    (everyone in the fleet knows that xxx is Russian)
    xxx> AFK for 5 minutes. I have to give vodka to my bear

    yyy> Russian?
    xxx> yes
    yyy> i know, vodka and balalaika
    xxx> yes, motherfucker, and still Kalashnikov and Topol-M

    - What can I write to English Maine about life in Russia?
    - Write that while I was going home from school, I had to beat three drunken bears, and one still stole your hat with earflaps
    - And then I was caught up by a drunk Kalashnikov and took the last bottle of vodka * (we live in Izhevsk)
    - Threatening you a long time ago withdrawn from service ak47 chambered for 7,62mm))
    - And when I nevertheless reached my wooden hut, I had to walk there without taking off my felt boots, after all, there was a snowstorm on the street!

    It was in one of the hot summer days in Moscow. I am sitting in a chat, talking with representatives of the world community. And somehow it happened that I especially talked with one lady, a teacher of the Russian language in some of the colleges of New Zealand. She herself has never been in Russia, but it seems she considered herself to be her (Russia) expert. Well, in the course of the conversation, she asks me, they say you are probably cold, freezing, poor things. And I'm sitting, sorry, in my underpants, wet as a mouse (recall summer!). Well, what was left for me to do. Yes, I say, it's cold. It is snowing very hard, interfering with typing, claudia clogs. Then she choked, felt sorry for us, the orphans and the wretched. Well, I continue to tell her about our simple Russian life: they say, he just came from a hunt, he flunked two bears. New Zealand stands in a pose and says that she is categorically against hunting, it is inhumane in relation to animals. Well, what am I saying to do if they attack children and take their vodka

    fint: went into chatroulet yesterday, stumbled upon 2 English women of 16 years old
    fint: one writes - oh, I recently taught about Russia at school
    fint: I learned from her - and what did I learn? she is cold there
    fint: then he asks - are you an aristocrat or a peasant?
    fint: said that we do not allow peasants to sit on the Internet

    rabbit_imbecilo
    I didn't know they have Internet in Russia

    aloneonthepluto
    The Internet is arranged through the Morse code. users are sitting and clawing bast on a stump, in the center of the forest central switches - a battalion of special rabbits with drums that switch the message further down the chain

    Here we hang the cranberries ourselves laughing
    1. +4
      23 March 2013 13: 37
      You directly reminded, yesterday you spoke about this with a friend. Yesterday, he kicked out the first batch of the product using a moonshine laughing and then, in the process of tasting, there was such a conversation:
      He- I can do everything now. I can even assemble a nuclear reactor
      I - Just look - carefully, do not let the bear play with it
      He- Exactly! And you also need to drink vodka and call the KGB .... laughing

      It’s just that sometimes this cranberry is richer than any drug wassat
      1. rereture
        +4
        23 March 2013 14: 10
        We just love to laugh at ourselves wink
        1. +1
          23 March 2013 17: 57
          rereture, exactly smile drinks
    2. 0
      24 March 2013 22: 40
      rereture, laughed heartily at the dialogue with the New Zealander. If, of course, this is all true. However, we also have enough of these "chickens", and "chicken" too.
  23. fenix57
    +1
    23 March 2013 10: 38
    Quote: bask
    Do not prohibit, but to FILTER. Eliminating all rubbish. And Russophobia.

    , Ahead of +. With both hands FOR. Bans alone will not help. hi
  24. +2
    23 March 2013 10: 40
    Article minus. Show me the family that beat modern cinema, internet and television. Put on the screens of Shepitko's Ascension cinemas and this film and see the box office. I think we will not argue about the results. We lost to American propaganda in spite of all our cadet corps, Cossack cadet corps, etc. You can get an individual child to watch "Hot Snow" at home on DVD, but after watching "Private Ryan" with friends on the big screen, I think he will accept the American version of the story of the Great War.
    1. Explore
      +2
      23 March 2013 11: 10
      Still disagree with you.
      We lost the information war in the 80-90s, when everyone began to think that "the West will help us" and "the West is always right."
      Now the situation is changing.
      "RT" aka "Russia Today" has become an international channel and is engaged in excellent trolling of Americans. CNN's monopoly is a thing of the past.
      Excellent films like "Brest Fortress" appear, which are much closer and understandable to American militants.
      And what do you suggest to do with "Ryan"? Spielberg filmed it with one single purpose - to show the Americans that their ancestors also fought in that war. The fact that we have not made such films for almost 20 years is our fault. The fact that we began to shoot more abruptly American nonsense - even more so.

      And now the question: what will have a more negative effect in the formation of the views of the younger generation: the film "Saving the Private District" and "Pearl Harbor", which tells that the Americans also managed to fight, or the film masterpieces "US-2", "Penal Battalion" and "4 days in May "showing how, they say, we fought ???

      Not in Americans, then all the horror ...
      1. +2
        23 March 2013 11: 51
        Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.
        Thanks to Belarusians and "the last dictator of Europe"
        Not in Americans, then all the horror ...
        This is exactly what the author of the article "Russia has really become a US colony" spoke about. Our officials do everything so that our children would watch, and the directors shot such opuses "US-2", "Penalty battalion" and "4 days in May". And by the way, "Citadel" was filmed with GDP in the "bad" 2000s, so nothing changes.
        1. Explore
          0
          23 March 2013 14: 01
          The author nevertheless spoke of bad Western films and the need for prohibitive measures.
          I’m talking about our bad films and the ineffectiveness of prohibitive measures in the presence of the Internet.

          I took the film "4 days in May" much more painful than "5 days in August", which caused more laughter than negativity.
          It's the same with films like Burnt by the Sun & Co.
  25. +1
    23 March 2013 10: 45
    The main part of Hollywood's creations lies in the plane of "genital" humor and mythical "human values", which in fact are the propaganda of their way of life.
    If not forbidden, then at least put high protective duties on the screening of such films. Although we have started to release so much shit ...
  26. 0
    23 March 2013 10: 50
    I also watched for the sake of interest "5 days in August" so propaganda shit, but it reminded me of one Soviet film "Come and See" in 1985, some scenes were shot one to one
  27. +1
    23 March 2013 10: 55
    "If you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children."
    Eastern wisdom


    It is no secret that cinema is intended mainly for young people.
    Any information is a management tool, a tool for carrying out ideology to the masses. Visual information, visual images are the most effective weapons. 90% of all information a person receives through vision, images both on a conscious level and on a subconscious.

    In order to understand whether foreign cinema is good for us or not, regardless of the genre, it is necessary to determine whether the country wants a producer of the next masterpiece of the good of our Motherland in principle? By and large, Russia has only two allies - the army and navy. Foreign cinema works for a foreign state. Forms and lays down the behavioral stereotypes of the younger generation.

    I think a foreign movie is harmful.

    On the zombie of children in films and cartoons: http://klin.hutt.ru/viewtopic.php?id=40
  28. +2
    23 March 2013 10: 56
    You can’t bring up patriotism with films alone. What examples do leaders give? Theft, bribes, fraud has become the norm. There is no faith in words and appeals. To educate patriotism, patriot educators are needed, and they are not allowed to create films.
    1. +2
      23 March 2013 13: 31
      Quote: treskoed
      You can’t bring up patriotism with films alone. What examples do leaders give?

      Parenting is 90% personal example. And there is no need to filter and prohibit. The Forbidden fruit is sweet. We need to create our own worthy films. And it's a lie that they won't watch the film without special effects. How many heroic deeds are discussed on the forum. Let's remember DOCUMENTARY movies. Where did it disappear. YouTube is essentially documentary. How many views individual videos are gaining, there are no effects, no artists "great", there is the truth of life. Competent educational text behind the scenes is necessary and that's it. What is most interesting about documentaries is there. Why are they not shown here is the question.
      PS, I would like to congratulate the football team of Israel which, winning Portugal 3: 1, was able to take the point 3: 3
  29. +1
    23 March 2013 10: 58
    I cannot but note the golden words said at the end:
    The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, and this cannot be transferred to anyone else ...
  30. +1
    23 March 2013 11: 00
    Hello everyone! Video on election day in Georgia, THIS IS A TURN good Let these films motivate American youth, such films can be shown to Russians (only not for children), let the American directors tear over the inferiority hi
  31. 0
    23 March 2013 11: 08
    Hello everyone! Video on election day in Georgia, THIS IS A TURN good Let these films motivate American youth, such films can be shown to Russians (only not for children), let the American directors tear over the inferiority laughing
  32. +3
    23 March 2013 11: 25
    Prohibition is not necessary. the forbidden fruit, as you know, is sweet and attractive.
    Yes, and in the era of the Internet something to ban is unlikely to succeed.
    You have to make your own movie. We have wonderful youth - she will choose what is needed.
  33. -1
    23 March 2013 11: 37
    "If you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children."
    eastern wisdom

    It is no secret that cinema is intended mainly for young people.
    Any information is a management tool, a tool for carrying out ideology to the masses. Visual information, visual images are the most effective weapons. 90% of all information a person receives through vision, images both on a conscious level and on a subconscious.

    In order to understand whether foreign cinema is good for us or not, regardless of the genre, it is necessary to determine whether the country wants a producer of the next masterpiece of the good of our Motherland in principle? By and large, Russia has only two allies - the army and navy. Foreign cinema works for a foreign state. Forms and lays down the behavioral stereotypes of the younger generation.

    I think a foreign movie is harmful.

    On the zombie of children in films and cartoons: http://klin.hutt.ru/viewtopic.php?id=40
  34. WWW.budanov
    +4
    23 March 2013 11: 37
    At the beginning, the words of the Author Sergey: "
    The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, ... "- Here! The very dominant quote to which we all approached, albeit from different angles! And for the upbringing of OUR children I add:
    - first, to delete such a concept as "Child's rights" from the head (of a parent) - this is all from the European homo .. and pedo ... (YES, besides, the "baby" starts constantly demanding a "chocolate" for himself, becomes a whiner, cowardly etc.).
    - it is impossible, in any case, to praise a child for simple help to an adult (this should be his OBLIGATION, otherwise over time he will help you for a "chocolate")
    - Punish for unfinished work, not cleaned things ... You should NOT be sorry with the words "we suffered during the war, let at least they" live ".
    They now "live": they smoke near the school, watch open "porn", beat old people ... BUT, in the event of really difficult situations, these "modern heroes" shamefully panic and "deserted"! Therefore, DEMAND from your beloved and only child, only and only help, And only sometimes, encourage, but not "chocolate" (for example, let him build a booth for a street dog or a birdhouse, allocate money for this material ...). Here, each parent has their own "values"! I wish all young parents to pay attention (remember) to our classics (for example Gogol: "Taras Bulba") on these Cossack days of sons and dad, his punishment and pride.
  35. +1
    23 March 2013 11: 41
    And what is weak for us?, For example, the film "Hitler Kaput" .... well, honestly speaking, it's a so-so film, but the direction itself is interesting, why not make a film, for example ... "Mackin Kaput" or "Bush Forever", Of course, I understand that laughing at others is not politically correct, but laughing at themselves is not politically correct many times more ...
  36. rereture
    0
    23 March 2013 11: 42
    Why do most say that we have lost youth? You brought us up by the previous generation, and dump all your schools (gopov, TP, and other individuals) on TV and propaganda. As a child, I watched Soviet and American cartoons, I was deeply indifferent to hidden implications, I was interested in the action itself.
    When I grew up, my parents did not forbid to watch TV and any programs that went from 6:00 to 12:00. Q But for some reason I didn’t watch a big wash, let them say windows, a house, and later house-2, I didn’t look at second-hand books, comedy clubs, cadetism, ranetki and other slag. My friends and I loved watching discovery, especially programs to survive at all costs, legend destroyers, how it works, top gear, fifth gear, an American chopper, gunsmiths. An interesting was the techno channel.
  37. +2
    23 March 2013 11: 50
    Hello everyone. Yes, we need to shoot our films as documentaries, it greatly affects patriotism and the education of young people. I am from Ukraine, Odessa, and I don’t know how you are in Russia, but I’m straight, I can’t watch Discovery channels and the like. They constantly watch films about the Second World War, so you watch them and understand that the Soviet Union did not take part in this war at all and the Americans and the Allies won the war. All films about battles with the Japanese and the landing in Normandy, so they present that, they say, these are the most important battles of that war. For a couple of years I only briefly saw briefly about Stalingrad and EVERYTHING !!! Where our governments litter. I would forbid by discovery, etc. show THEIR historical docks. Films, Let them Twist Science, etc. And historical dock films with our view of events should be issued by us, at least to our citizens and on our territory.!
  38. 0
    23 March 2013 11: 51
    Hello everyone. Yes, we need to shoot our films as documentaries, it greatly affects patriotism and the education of young people. I am from Ukraine, Odessa, and I don’t know how you are in Russia, but I’m straight, I can’t watch Discovery channels and the like. They constantly watch films about the Second World War, so you watch them and understand that the Soviet Union did not take part in this war at all and the Americans and the Allies won the war. All films about battles with the Japanese and the landing in Normandy, so they present that, they say, these are the most important battles of that war. For a couple of years I only briefly saw briefly about Stalingrad and EVERYTHING !!! Where our governments litter. I would forbid by discovery, etc. show THEIR historical docks. Films, Let them Twist Science, etc. And historical dock films with our view of events should be issued by us, at least to our citizens and on our territory.!
  39. rereture
    +1
    23 March 2013 11: 53
    In our school, meetings have been held (and are now taking place) with veterans of the Great Patriotic War (it is sad that every year there are fewer and fewer) and with veterans of the Afghan war.
  40. +1
    23 March 2013 11: 54
    Quote: Sasha
    It is necessary. Especially to "clean" the min.cult. Show "Rambo" on OFFICIAL channels.

    Especially Rambo 3, where he is in Afghanistan! Complete nonsense!
  41. +2
    23 March 2013 11: 55
    Personally, I would withdraw from the show the domestic series "Sea Devils. Tornado." with the participation of "girl" Moore. It is difficult to imagine a greater profanation of the activities of the special services and simply idiocy in the implementation of combat work.
    1. +4
      24 March 2013 14: 24
      Thanks ... Supported ...
      Unfortunately, such a girl minus my opinion.
  42. rodevaan
    0
    23 March 2013 12: 02
    Patriotism is not only a family upbringing, but also a state first of all!
    The state and the Ministry of Culture are OBLIGED, if it wants to develop and educate the population correctly, to show and sponsor the production of films that will involuntarily cause pride in our country and our army. Show and emphasize our achievements and victories. Show the greatness of the people and the heroic story.
    And in no case should it show the army and the people that cause contempt, pity or vulgarity. In doing so, they only decompose the consciousness of people and they themselves inspire people with an aversion to their army, to their history, to their country and to themselves. Thus doing their dirty work for the enemies.
    1. Explore
      0
      23 March 2013 14: 07
      Yeah. So the patriotic film "US-2" was promoted. And they obliged schoolchildren in Moscow and the Far East to go to it ... Look, so to speak. Both Volodya Medinsky supported Nikita and Volodya Putin.

      Patriotism first of all needs to be brought up in the family, and only in the second - to entrust to the state. If only because our state does not need patriotism, but a loyal electorate. The rest is for PR.
  43. Mikado
    0
    23 March 2013 12: 02
    "And of the Russians, only one paratrooper was shown there."

    If suddenly the author forgot what the uniform of the Russian military looks like and remembers only one blue beret, in the same episode the Russian generals and colonel were shown seconds earlier.
    1. Explore
      0
      23 March 2013 14: 10
      Rather did not pay attention. The paratrooper was especially singled out in the film, and those were only shown in the crowd.
      Well, sir. Inattentive I.
  44. +1
    23 March 2013 12: 16
    .... filter by sifting out all sorts of rubbish. and Russophobia.
    And the main question about television. When these stupid ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show.dom-2 and another cosmopolitan ideological POISON developed in the Zionist centers of the United States and the CIA are finally closed. Especially dangerous for our youth.


    This will come only when the enemies of Russia - the traitors who fulfill the ORDER - are removed from the government, and when all the "advisers" sent from the USA to "help" Russia are expelled, who were sent in the time of Yeltsin in an amount of 1200 people, of which (according to REN TV) there were 20 CIA agents who were in charge of privatization, and the defense industry, the educational and cultural spheres, in short, they "worked" in all industries ... Until they are EFFECTED from there, our children will watch DurDom-2 and pay the amekikos for it!
    1. rodevaan
      +1
      23 March 2013 12: 43
      Quote: ia-ai00
      .... filter by sifting out all sorts of rubbish. and Russophobia.
      And the main question about television. When these stupid ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show.dom-2 and another cosmopolitan ideological POISON developed in the Zionist centers of the United States and the CIA are finally closed. Especially dangerous for our youth.


      This will come only when the enemies of Russia - the traitors who fulfill the ORDER - are removed from the government, and when all the "advisers" sent from the USA to "help" Russia are expelled, who were sent in the time of Yeltsin in an amount of 1200 people, of which (according to REN TV) there were 20 CIA agents who were in charge of privatization, and the defense industry, the educational and cultural spheres, in short, they "worked" in all industries ... Until they are EFFECTED from there, our children will watch DurDom-2 and pay the amekikos for it!


      - Absolutely correct! Until we clear our own yard of all our own and foreign trash and evil spirits, we will not have a normal life and normal development here.
  45. +4
    23 March 2013 12: 19
    Why, in fact, did a systemic crisis occur in our culture? The answer is simple and complex at the same time - the collapse of a superpower. It was caused by several factors. More often called economic - they say, in the balance of guns / oil messed up. Yes, there were problems in the economy, but they were not decisive. The USSR also experienced deeper shocks. The problem is different. In the heads (I don’t want to say - minds - there is a lot of honor) of a significant part of the political elite of the 80s, the Western cult of consumption won. They had huge resources in their hands, but they could not legally own them. The only way to get your hands on all this is to destroy the state and drag your pieces of the "pie" through the cracks. Which they did. And they did it in a purely political way. In other words, the leaders of the late Union became the conductors of Western ideology. In the 90s, everything got worse and reached incredible proportions. The crisis of the 80s seemed to people already a trifle against the background of the 90s. But the “democrats” had to be told that “it got better” otherwise how to legitimize themselves? It's that simple! I must say that it was even worse before! Hence, "a billion shot by Stalin personally," the "aggressive USSR", whose main goal was to destroy its own population and the whole of humanity ... well, the West was only at hand - it was not only left without a worthy opponent in the face of the USSR, but also culturally "crush" your enemy. And this will be a terrible occupation.
    Contemporary domestic mass "culture" is a tracing paper of the West. Those born at the very end of the 80s and later fell under this rink especially. They did not see anything else and do not know ...
    Now they shoot only what is sold for popcorn: for "neighing", for "being scared", for "watching cool explosions". Thinking is difficult and has no time. Therefore, the plot must be simplified - there are good ones, there are bad ones. Well, in order to show the "zest" bad ourselves. More precisely we will be made by those who do it, even if our fellow citizens, but no longer compatriots.
    In the West, most people think in terms of black / white. But they are always "good". Well done! Well, the fact that North Korea invaded the United States is for popcorn (you have to surprise your immature brains with the plot) and for feeling your own righteousness - what kind of Koreans are evil, and then Russians are. You need to think according to the template ...
  46. 0
    23 March 2013 12: 31
    Quote: vladsolo56
    ask today's 15 year olds who Bodrov is and who saw the film Brother and Brother 2. I doubt that there will be many.


    ... there are university students who do not know what happened in 1941
    1. Explore
      0
      23 March 2013 14: 12
      Do not judge by individual representatives. Such representatives have always been. And in Soviet times, too.
      Some do not know the parents' birthday and cannot remember their phone number. And you about the story ...
  47. 0
    23 March 2013 12: 34
    Yes, and we have enough stupidity .. we are from the future, for example. Well, the fantasy is understandable .. but when these stupid people like rap at the bonfire at the front start banging and like type soldiers .. damn the ears wilt .. look disgusting. directors should have a little mosh
  48. 0
    23 March 2013 12: 38
    The most suitable in the article is a video review from the bad comedian.
    But in fact, I do not agree what to ban foreign films. Just censorship needed
    1. rereture
      0
      23 March 2013 12: 40
      And the most interesting thing is most of all his reviews on Russian films, which proves that our film industry is in a deplorable state.
  49. +2
    23 March 2013 12: 52
    1. The President and the US government think only about the US state and that they do not do is directed only for the good of the United States ...
    2. The USA has no allies, there are only accomplices for a specific robbery, the rest are enemies.
    3. The media is the same part of the US defense structure as the Army and Navy.
    4. The media is equivalent in efficiency to the neutron bomb, the brain melts ... and material values ​​remain untouched.
    5. Any means of influencing the minds of its citizens through the media are good against the enemy, the more offensive (the enemy) is, the more pleasant it is for the United States
    6. The enemy himself pays for the actions of the media on his territory, and even with a good margin, which is even more pleasant for the United States.

    All this must be understood by our rulers.
  50. 0
    23 March 2013 12: 53
    They simply educate their younger generation with the idea that the main enemy is Russia. That’s all, but the means are not important.
  51. 0
    23 March 2013 12: 55
    The movie made by the author of the article pleased me and made me laugh. The author, by the way, is a representative of young people, he thinks quite adequately and with humor.
  52. 0
    23 March 2013 13: 01
    It is very easy to repair this broken toy. In the USSR, any film began with a 10-minute newsreel. Wick and others... It will be enough to simply revive the tradition.
  53. 0
    23 March 2013 13: 08
    I think that such things as PATRIOTISM, HONOR and DIGNITY are absorbed into a RUSSIAN person with their MOTHER'S milk!! And the TV has nothing to do with it! There have already been many examples in modern RUSSIA. EVGENY RODIONOV, gave his life for OUR ORTHODOX FAITH!! FOR THE MOTHERLAND! Remember Chechnya, the conflict with Georgia....Both there and there a RUSSIAN soldier accomplished a feat!! And what does the American soldier show??? ?With their films?? I’ll quote our RUSSIAN GREAT COMMANDER: WE ARE RUSSIANS, AND GOD IS WITH US!!! That’s the point!! And as long as this is so, we are not afraid of anything!! Regardless of what they say on the box, the RUSSIAN PEOPLE If necessary, he will give his life for RUSSIA!! I think so.
  54. Mr. Truth
    0
    23 March 2013 13: 18
    Americans do not cultivate patriotism. They want narcissistic egomaniacs, not soldiers.
  55. 0
    23 March 2013 13: 24
    What worries me more is that they are filming here, and not Hollywood buffoons...
  56. Volkhov
    +1
    23 March 2013 13: 36
    And I have only one question: why wasn’t this film made by us ???

    Because we have active partisans and chronicles are being made about them. The authorities have not yet ordered the appearance of youth groups in Siberia, although there is a group in it that is pumping up dissatisfaction with tariffs, taxes, fines and vampirism, which truck drivers in Moscow are being forced to do by forcing them to drive at night.
  57. 0
    23 March 2013 14: 07
    I briefly watched the film. A very cheerful cranberry. What caught my eye, besides the very uh... non-standard plot. First. The Korean uniform is painfully reminiscent of the Chinese. This means that the Chinese were originally planned. But they changed their minds and added Korean flags. In principle, the graphics are noticeable. Why? It's simple. Rental markets. The film was shot during a period of crisis, producers and approaches changed. I'm tired of showing Russians - they won't come to watch. The Chinese are normal and “new”. But such a film will definitely not be released in China, and there will be a lot of swearing. And here the authors had to find a country in which the film would definitely not be released and which the United States had designated as its enemy. The choice is small: North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Syria, Aliens. You can also Al-Qaeda and Somali pirates with Godzilla - but they thought that these wouldn’t work in principle.. winked
    As a result, they decided to parachute the unfortunate Koreans into the United States. But it seems to me that Kim Jong-un needs to buy the film and show it throughout the country. The film turned out to be patriotic, but not for the USA, but for North Korea.
    Conclusion - American distributors created an “ideologically correct” film. "Good" Americans against "treacherous bad" Koreans. But the desire to earn money at the box office did its job. And another example shows that the history of the United States does not have examples of patriotism in our understanding. They did not defend their country from complete destruction, did not sacrifice their lives in the name of their loved ones. Basically, they waged wars of conquest, which clearly does not correlate with morality and ethics. So in films they only fight with aliens and other windmills.
  58. HAM
    0
    23 March 2013 14: 14
    It’s sickening to watch American films - they are all such heroes, but in life they are ordinary killers fighting with children and women, and then from afar from aircraft carriers, etc.
  59. 0
    23 March 2013 14: 15
    Here is a task for our Union of Cinematographers on the topic of patriotism: next year will be the 100th anniversary of the 1st World War. They should make a patriotic film “how our grandfathers fought”! And there is no need to invent events: the defense of the Osovets fortress with the “attack of the dead” that has entered the annals. In terms of intensity of battles and heroism, it is not inferior to the defense of the Brest Fortress. But again there won’t be enough money to adequately film the film. They found it on the Citadel, but it turned out to be garbage.
    1. 0
      24 March 2013 23: 34
      Quote: nnz226
      Next year will be the 100th anniversary of World War I. They should make a patriotic film “how our grandfathers fought”!
      Just hope it's not Mikhalkov! hi
  60. 0
    23 March 2013 14: 30
    - There is no point in banning foreign cinema... Before the “coup”, people gathered in their apartments to watch “Videos”, and broke into video stores until they got their fill of this... We need to make our own films that are worthy, and show American ones, so that some naive citizens there were no illusions left regarding their life and attitude towards us!
  61. HAM
    +1
    23 March 2013 14: 30
    Nikita is again the head of the TFR - we will wait for "Tormented by the Sun"
    1. 0
      24 March 2013 03: 43
      Yeah, and again go to pillboxes with clubs like primitives!
  62. Urrry
    0
    23 March 2013 14: 32
    Hmm, the bad thing is not that Americans make films about “bad Russians” - the bad thing is that we ourselves make films in which “Russians are even worse”, according to the saying “make a fool pray to God...” we are trying to outdo even Hollywood in this.
    But we just need to raise questions: who finances these films and at whose expense, if it is state money - raise the question of the responsibility of the “sponsoring officials” (with prosecution for at least negligence - at maximum for misuse of budget funds); if for private ones - check the source of income of the "sponsors", taxes, etc... the ruble, as the most effective cudgel in modern conditions, can break the modern Russian tendency to shower the people with the crap of "propaganda" cinema
  63. 0
    23 March 2013 14: 37
    I can say this for myself. Hood. That's why the film is bad. What a fiction. It’s not nice when our people are humiliated there. It can be banned. It's just a way to have fun.

    a lot off topic. There is an opinion that in all our large companies Rosneft Lukoil, etc. a CIA agent sits. Not secretly. And after making large investments by transferring money, he makes calls to his homeland where they tell him where, how and what to do.
    I've heard a lot recently, it's a pity I'm running out of time. This opinion also speaks to that. That Russia will soon be divided in half for now. Well, that’s how I’ve heard enough. And life became somehow aimless. HAVE THE COUNTRY BEEN SOLD AND THERE IS NO EXIT? That’s the main question: who is Putin? Is it a puppet or so stupid by appointing ministers who are completely out of touch, such as Serdyukov. Russia is his home. The Minister of Defense is guarding this house. After everything he did, how could he be kept in power for so long? What if you press the red button, where are the guarantees that it will work? The question is who is Putin? I leave it open. Because if he is a puppet, then there is no one else to trust
  64. 0
    23 March 2013 15: 16
    I have the following proposal about this. Let’s say they showed Rambo 3 on a box and then, after the film, there is a fifteen-minute program with an analysis of the film in its bones. The analysis should show the whole range of American lies, for example, they say in Rambo that the Russians bayoneted Afghan civilians, show roads and schools built by the Union at that time. They talk in the film about the “Mujahideen freedom fighters”, show Osama Bin Laden by his handlers from the CIA and finally the bombing of the civilian population of Afghanistan by the NATO Air Force. Also, one cannot ignore heroin traffic. Then the idea of ​​​​any American film will turn 180 degrees and all the American lies will be clear.
  65. +2
    23 March 2013 15: 27
    But I have one question, why are our films from the 70s and 80s? have practically disappeared from the central channels? But they show pro-Western heresy. Who is responsible for this?!
    1. 0
      23 March 2013 17: 36
      Quote: zao74
      Who is responsible for this?!


      Those who are paid money for this. There are no coincidences. Previously, this was called local sabotage...
  66. +1
    23 March 2013 15: 45
    American films that dominate distribution in the CIS countries are prohibited from showing in the USA! It is necessary to ban Amer’s militants, where the evil are Russians, and porn.
    1. 0
      23 March 2013 17: 27
      Quote: vezunchik
      It is necessary to ban Amer’s militants, where the evil are Russians, and porn.


      A storm threat to any national culture and native language is foreign films and songs on television and radio. After all, of the variety of programs, along with newscasts, television viewers primarily prefer movies and entertainment programs, and radio listeners prefer musical numbers.
      In France, songs in French must occupy at least 40% of pop music programs. This is not a wish for broadcasting organizations, but a state law.
      A special law protecting French culture was adopted in 1994. The French song successfully resists the infections of American pop music, maintaining its melodicity and ballad content, for example, “Radio Bleu” broadcasts only French songs.

      Why not pass similar laws?
      1. -1
        23 March 2013 18: 21
        CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
        Section One. Key Points
        Chapter 1. Fundamentals of the constitutional system.
        Article 13
        n. 2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.

        If your own is prohibited, then someone else’s is allowed.
        The media (cinema) is a tool for promoting ideology to the masses.
    2. Windbreak
      0
      April 1 2013 22: 18
      Quote: vezunchik
      American films that dominate distribution in the CIS countries are prohibited from showing in the USA!
      Well, name at least a couple of such films. Judging by the film search, such films are very rare
  67. aleksandr.k
    0
    23 March 2013 16: 39
    To paraphrase the words of Danila Badrov, American cinema is g..., and by and large they themselves are also g....
  68. 0
    23 March 2013 16: 51
    I need to watch the movie. Stallone and Rambo look nervously smoking on the sidelines.... :):) from such a plot
  69. 0
    23 March 2013 17: 02
    Quote: vladsolo56
    ask today's 15 year olds who Bodrov is and who saw the film Brother and Brother 2. I doubt that there will be many.


    ... there are university students who do not know what happened in 1941
  70. droiddiman10
    +1
    23 March 2013 17: 09
    First of all, education. In the age of high technology, no restrictions or isolation from the outside world can save children. Because there is the Internet where such obscenity happens that the same DOM-2 is just a children's show.

    Here it is the parents and the school (church) who must work and educate the child so that he himself can sift the chaff from the wheat.
  71. Sinus cosinus
    0
    23 March 2013 17: 24
    Well, it makes no sense to ban it. The Forbidden fruit is sweet.
    A different approach is needed, an ideological one. You don't need to go far. Experience of Belarus. This country ranks first among the CIS countries, maybe even Europe, in the patriotic education of youth. The entire airwaves of Belarusian central channels are occupied by truthful and patriotic historical films, explanations of events in the world by ideologues and experts. Belarus also ranks first in the number of social advertising.
    When the brains of our people are filled with the information NECESSARY for the development of the country, then the immune system itself will throw all this American movie trash into the trash.
  72. 0
    23 March 2013 17: 47
    Hollywood films are just a mirror of the Anglo-Saxon way of life, based on total competition between everyone and everyone. “It’s nothing personal, it’s just business,” “if you’re so smart, then why aren’t you rich,” and so on. The entire morality of their society is built on this, that is, it is moral to make money, even at the expense of your loved ones, and it is immoral not to be able to do it. Individualism taken to the absolute. In most nations of the world, it is considered immoral to make money from the grief and humiliation of one’s neighbor. The authors of American films are just making money, they are neither friends nor enemies of Russia, they are indifferent to us. During the Cold War, an agenda (templates) was created for directors to create box-office films. Modern directors simply exploit this agenda; they not only do not create a new agenda, but actually interfere with its creation. But they don’t care, “business is business.”
    Another question: why do we watch these films? If the medicine says POISON on it, we will not use it. But if they say that the film is anti-patriotic, we will definitely go see it, but what is so anti-patriotic about it? Personally, I have repeatedly been angry at certain traits of our national character, but then I realized that being angry with the Russian people is the same as being angry with children. That's just who we are. First, because of the next civil strife, we will bring the country to the brink, to the next Horde invasion, and then we will storm the enemy’s capital. I don’t like Churchill, but it was he who most clearly reflected this feature of ours. “Russians first create difficulties for themselves, and then heroically overcome them.”
  73. Barmen
    0
    23 March 2013 18: 16
    ps if your children are embarrassed by Dom-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.№№№
    I dragged mine into the summer kitchen. The wife was indignant. Proved that our 5-year-old daughter and 13-year-old son don’t care to watch that nonsense. Cartoons - only Soviet ones. Without mermaids, damn it, and Shrek. Fairy tales are ONLY Soviet. I grew up on them myself. For my son, films only after watching ourselves. We are now censored. Transmissions - so if you need them, we’ll find them. There is a decent library at home. And in general, I’ve heard the phrase: “Whoever reads books leads those who watch TV.” Here. IMHO.
  74. Barmen
    0
    23 March 2013 18: 26
    And I dragged mine into the summer kitchen. My 5-year-old daughter watches only Soviet cartoons. Without mermaid whores, etc. My 13-year-old son received films only after we watched them (censored). And there is an expression - whoever reads books leads those who watch TV. IMHO. And we have a good library. I got it from my grandmother. She taught Russian language and literature for 33 years. And I replenish it periodically.
  75. 0
    23 March 2013 19: 16
    That’s right, you need to Filter and start with your films (the word is pathetic), but the most important thing is not to shoot or show pornography like “Tired” yourself, Mikhalkov is already tired, and personifies himself as the Sun. We need to make and make normal films about our soldiers ourselves, because no state in the world has more heroic soldiers (of all times). And there is no need to play along, that you need to forget about the passions of the Great Patriotic War... that the Krauts were not all bad. Yes, crap, if you crossed our border with a weapon in your hands, you are already a bastard and have no right to live!
  76. 0
    23 March 2013 19: 59
    How do you imagine watching a good patriotic film in today's cinemas? Under the stench of burnt oil, the sounds of popcorn slurping and the gurgling of coca? How can you eat and at the same time worry about the characters in the film?
    I haven't gone to the cinema for a long time and don't plan to. It's just disgusting. Everything is designed for Hollywood snot.
  77. 0
    23 March 2013 20: 07
    The author of the article has little understanding of psychology, hence his opinion. But the truth is that all this murkiness from films is perceived SUBCONSCIOUSLY at the level of, roughly speaking, the spinal cord. And therefore even more dangerous. This manure should not be allowed into wide circulation...
    1. Explore
      0
      23 March 2013 21: 23
      It’s not for you to judge how much I understand the topic.
      Moreover, I didn’t see any bad thoughts in you.

      Regarding the subconscious, read Z. Freud and C. Jung.
  78. 0
    23 March 2013 20: 55
    And as for Hollywood - do not bother to fill your head. He makes pictures for himself. Promotes ideas of his country. It would be strange if it were different.

    This is the whole truth, he promotes the ideas of his country. Why should Russia allow this to happen at home? Russia must counteract this and promote, or at least try, its ideas in the world. And it’s a big minus for the author, this calming little guy.
    1. Explore
      +1
      23 March 2013 21: 54
      Thanks for the joke. I will know my identity))).

      Seriously, you are thinking in the spirit of the late Soviet party gerontocracy, which does not know any other way to counteract other than a ban.
      A ban is impossible in the conditions of the development of the Internet and mass communications! For example, the film Borat was banned from showing in Russia as degrading the national dignity of the Kazakh population. Did it work? All my peers watched it through the Internet (I was still in 11th grade when it came out).
      Banning other people's films to support your own? Then you can ban both foreign literature and foreign music. Down with Remarque! Down with Wagner!
      This is silly. It is necessary not to prohibit, but to encourage the creation of normal films. Not all slag, like US-2 and others, which in terms of the level of destructive impact are much worse than the most rabid propaganda films. It’s not American action films that are dangerous, but our “pseudo-historical” masterpieces.
      One plus - out of all the modern shit, I saw a couple of normal films - "Brest Fortress", and "August. Eighth". The rest - no, if you please, I'll save my brain. It’s better to watch a good foreign movie than this disgusting thing that pours crap on your own country or is completely devoid of any meaning.
      Although, yes, we can follow the example of the DPRK and ban everything Western... Also ban foreign cars in order to support our auto industry.

      But this won't work. I have already expressed my opinion - not a ban, but the creation of our own products that can not only compete, but also resist Western ones.
      Support for normal cinema, like "Brest Fortress", which can cause emotions not only in our audience, but also abroad.
      Supporting normal art, not some immoral crap
      And what’s remarkable in my opinion is that the international Russian television channel “RT” was finally created, capable of moving “CNN” forward. By the way, he’s doing a good job of trolling Americans now.

      And the ban is an admission of our defeat. The inability of our films to compete with Western films even in our own country.

      Another thing is the rationing of display. But it is not a prohibitive, but rather an encouraging method of showing our products in cinemas and on TV.
      I would still like to wait for this very “product”...
      1. 0
        24 March 2013 23: 04
        Thanks for the joke. I will know my identity))).

        You are not hopeless, you understand your own essence.
        Your article and comments are based on distorting facts. You urge everyone not to ban foreign films, foreign literature, or foreign music under any circumstances. Your heart aches for Remarque, for Wagner. But we were talking about screening out, banning second-rate films, even for the West, as well as films with an anti-Russian orientation.
        You put Russian cinema below the bottom; not a single Russian film impressed you. In Russia, in your opinion, they make everything wrong and films about war are bullshit and everything there is not true. Films about 007 are another matter. By the way, this speaks of another facet of your essence. There is no point in evaluating your pearls further.
        For Judas, please contact me.
  79. 0
    23 March 2013 21: 36
    I watched this movie (Red Down). The film is very boring and stupid.
  80. 0
    23 March 2013 21: 45
    I gave the author a plus. But I am against showing films that discredit the USSR - Russia.
    Why. Well, we, people who are already mature, understand where the lie is and where the truth is. These films are of no use to children and young people. Watch Armageddon. Where at the Mir station a drunken colonel in a reloading suit with a large wrench is ruining the station. And all their films where they show our people show them with an enemy grin, etc. and so on.
    And their films are not so harmless. They were removed ideologically correctly, on their part. Everywhere and everywhere there is peace, humanity is saved by the American, and our Soviet is the Russian ENEMY. And this is put into the heads of their children and ours too. Through these films, an inferiority complex is implanted in the heads of our children. American superiority in all areas.
    Anyone who has dogs or shepherds knows that even when playing with a puppy, one should not allow it to be defeated. The puppy must always win. Then he will grow into a confident dog. Sorry for the comparison. But from childhood, children should see and read only our successes and achievements. When the time comes, they will grow up and see the shortcomings themselves. It must be drilled into him from the cradle that he is lucky to be a citizen of great Russia.
    This also applies to our moronic films. In the furnace of them. And force Mikhalkov to return the money spent on idiotic films. His Citadel is so moronic that it is not popular even in the West. It would seem that this is a godsend for them. But even they realized that Mikhalkov was “too clever.”
  81. Explore
    +1
    23 March 2013 22: 04
    Against screening in cinemas - yes.
    On state channels - yes.
    A complete ban is not.
    The adult population and young people are not so stupid that after watching an anti-Russian film they will immediately dislike the country. But you still need to watch what children watch yourself, excuse the tautology.
    1. amp
      amp
      0
      24 March 2013 00: 29
      I wouldn't call it anti-Russian.
      This is more of a pro-American film.
      Just who, besides the USSR, could attack the USA?
      And in general, it is not clear who is fighting with them there. Some of them are clearly Koreans, judging by their faces. Another thing is that, judging by the language, they are Cubans. Some are Russian. You can’t tell by their shape at all, because it’s not their shape, it’s not clear what they have. I even noticed something like a Wehrmacht cap. ))))
  82. +1
    23 March 2013 22: 19
    it’s a shame.... in our cinema lately they have been trying to denigrate our past to the roots.... if the Second World War, then these are necessarily bad political officers, these are foreign detachments... a lot of negativity..... and the youth watch, the young brain absorbs everything, But in fact, if everything was so bad, how did they raise such an industry? how they put together such an army that the equipment is still in service, there are no new models of equipment, everything is only modernized from the USSR inherited. Enough about our Motherland, while about Stalin in the 90s, no less people have died from our villages for repression, it’s time to do something ourselves, to raise Mother Rus'!
    1. amp
      amp
      0
      24 March 2013 00: 22
      Well, why, look at the saboteur, in August 44, where is the slander?
      On the contrary, they are now creating a positive heroic image of a WWII warrior.
      1. Explore
        +1
        24 March 2013 00: 29
        I mean from films of the last 2-3 years. In August 44 is a wonderful film, no doubt. "Saboteur" is patriotic, but too "Ramba-like".
        Of listed above in the article films made recently, excuse me, where can I find a positive image?
        1. 0
          24 March 2013 23: 36
          Quote: Explorar
          In August 44 - a wonderful film

          good good good
    2. rereture
      0
      24 March 2013 04: 12
      I’ll tell you honestly, many young people associate our modern cinema with what floats from above.
  83. 0
    23 March 2013 23: 33
    Actually, at first there were supposed to be Chinese in the film, but the film company was afraid that because of this film it would have problems with admission to the Chinese market in the future, and the bosses urgently demanded that the Chinese be replaced with someone else.
  84. amp
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    0
    24 March 2013 00: 17
    I also watched the movie. He is so naive and stupid that I don’t even want to get angry. It’s funny how they wrote the center of Soviet-American friendship in Russian. Not only are there mistakes (what else can you expect from Americans), but they also mixed the Cyrillic and Latin alphabet. ))))) Instead of the letter t, they wrote t. ))))
  85. SHOGUN
    0
    24 March 2013 00: 32
    Why are they with Kalash? The chick from the poster even has 2. Or do Amer’s M4s not fire after an EMP? wassat
    1. amp
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      24 March 2013 01: 36
      Trophy.
  86. 0
    24 March 2013 03: 52
    Eh. It’s all good, of course, what you said here. But none of this will happen without a clear message from above. And the message should be one: “Russians are the most awesome people on planet Earth.” And based on this, we teach children, make films, write textbooks and books. When we stop inviting actors who have gotten sick of participating in upcoming events and other abominations to act in films, then we have won. For now it’s purely on your own. Explain, argue, convince. And for this you need to have clear facts, preferably documented.
  87. 0
    24 March 2013 09: 11
    In the first part of the video....Russian Ivan even pulls a tricycle......some kind of homeless people are shown. I have just one question for the director of the film: how many times were you dropped by a friend as a child?
  88. Skunk
    -3
    24 March 2013 11: 53
    No one will buy patriotic films. Young people will not go to see it; there is no one to watch “a case in a 36-80 square” in a modern interpretation instead of a Western action movie with a budget of 100 square meters, except for nostalgic old men and Nazis. And therefore, what’s the point of releasing it? What would bring more losses to cinemas? In Russia, cinema is not a very profitable business anyway. Whatever the market dictates will be filmed and shown, despite any calls for patriotism.
    And about popcorn - a few words in defense)) The sale of popcorn, cola and other food to the theater brings up to 50% of the cinema owner’s income. So the dilemma is to watch a movie in comfortable chairs with good sound and on a big screen, but with or without popcorn, sitting on a stool with a sheet on the wall)) The latter option is of course more patriotic, but it’s uncomfortable for the ass...
    1. 0
      24 March 2013 12: 17
      Quote: Skunk
      No one will buy patriotic films. Young people will not go to see it; there is no one to watch “a case in a 36-80 square” in a modern interpretation instead of a Western action movie with a budget of 100 square meters, except for nostalgic old men and Nazis. And therefore, what’s the point of releasing it? What would bring more losses to cinemas? In Russia, cinema is not a very profitable business anyway. Whatever the market dictates will be filmed and shown, despite any calls for patriotism.


      Why buy it and push it into rentals? You just need to remove all these series for housewives from the screens and replace them with such series as saboteur, storm gates and show them on the Central Committee.
      1. Skunk
        -2
        24 March 2013 20: 31
        Do we have many such series? Three? Four? Do you suggest driving in circles? Well, advertisers will buy time for the first round, I doubt it for the second))) but they definitely won’t buy it for the third))))
      2. Elliot
        +1
        24 March 2013 22: 05
        Will housewives watch Saboteur and Storm Gates?
        Does it ever occur to you that not everyone is interested in such series?
        1. Skunk
          +1
          24 March 2013 22: 51
          Such defeatist talk is not accepted here! Whether they will or not... And who will ask them, housewives? They will bring you in a line and sit you down to watch. soldier soldier soldier wassat

          In general, there is a very clear trend on television now, which the television people themselves are voicing. The male population refuses television as a means of information, preferring the Internet, since the latter provides a more independent and diverse assessment of certain events and is less subject to censorship. That is why the most expensive time from 19 to 22 is now filled with programs aimed at a female audience - talk shows and television series.
      3. +1
        25 March 2013 00: 09
        Quote: krokodil25
        remove all these series for housewives from the screens


        Thoughts are a plus, but the vector needs a non-plus wink . Why remove them? They also have their own audience. What do you think women aged 50-100 should watch? I personally saw women well over 80 watching House-2, yes, yes, I wouldn’t believe it myself. And they don’t miss any releases. It is necessary to remove only those that are a blind copy of p*ndos...

        We need series about love, about relationships, about culinary matters, action films, humor for different tastes and colors. Everyone has a different level of intelligence, not everyone has 2-3 higher educations or a doctorate in philosophy. And these people are no worse than those who studied at different universities. These are your fellow citizens and comrades.

        There are a lot of studios now; we need to finance them for specific projects, as it used to be *by order of MosFilm*, or *GosTeleRadio*. Those who get burned or do not do what they asked, then deprive them of everything. Take them to court to get back *not yours*. Given Russian tariffs, Western studios will soon agree to produce moderately patriotic films... I'm not kidding...
    2. 0
      24 March 2013 23: 59
      Quote: Skunk
      No one will buy patriotic movies


      And you don’t need something patriotic (or rather, not necessarily), you need something domestic...

      Otherwise, in the Russian Federation they show those films that are prohibited in the Empire of Lies...
      1. Skunk
        0
        25 March 2013 02: 15
        That's just talking - this is prohibited, this is allowed... I personally, throughout my childhood, watched television, which was under strict censorship. And I concluded for myself that it was not television, but a stunning spectacle. Some people may have liked it. No to me. The "Time" program with a speech by the Secretary General, then about milkmaids, steelworkers and multimillion-dollar demonstrations of the unemployed in the West, then at 21.30 a feature film about the labor feat of the worker Ivanov... Excellent)))
        Quote: JACOB
        There are a lot of studios now; we need to finance them for specific projects, as it used to be *by order of MosFilm*, or *GosTeleRadio*.

        Do you have any idea how much this will cost?????? And who pays for such a banquet?
        And another question: what kind of films are shown here that are banned in the USA???
        1. Skunk
          0
          26 March 2013 11: 11
          Is it considered good form to moderate other people’s posts? Replace words? In my opinion, I did not call television a stunning spectacle, but expressed it more specifically and appropriately.
          Or does the moderator see the highest meaning of his existence in anonymously correcting other people’s messages? I don’t want to upset you, but we need to look for meaning in something else...
  89. Ruslan_F38
    0
    24 March 2013 14: 15
    A disgusting film, I hope that when they watched this film in Georgia they finally realized what idiots Americans are. I've never seen a dumber film. Who is it even intended for? For idiots? Normally, this “masterpiece” can only be perceived by people completely divorced from reality.
  90. armorboy1
    0
    24 March 2013 15: 48
    a good film about patriotism. When young people who love their country fight the occupiers. A worthy example of the fight against a hostile occupation regime. On the contrary, films like these teach the right values.
  91. 0
    24 March 2013 17: 57
    Quote: WWW.budanov

    And for the upbringing of OUR children, I add: - first, erase from the head (the parent) such a concept as “Rights of the Child” - this is all from European homo.. and pedo... (YES, in addition, the “child” begins to constantly demand for himself “ chocolate”, becomes a whiner, cowardly, etc.). - you cannot, under any circumstances, praise a child for simply helping an adult (This should be his RESPONSIBILITY, otherwise over time he will help you for “chocolate”) - Punish for unfinished work, things not put away...

    Join good
  92. -1
    24 March 2013 22: 02
    The Americans are not idiots either, I don’t think they are delighted with this creation. According to the imdb rating, only 5 points out of 10 possible.

    Someone tried to upload our film “Storm Gates” on YouTube with English subtitles. Noteworthy is one comment from an American soldier in Russian (it is clear that Google translated it from English):

    I am an American soldier, and I must say that I respect you Russian comrades. You are all heroes who are fighting to protect your family from the same terrorists that we are fighting. I salue you and call you friends. We shouldn't hate each other just because our corrupt leaders tell us to. Long live the Republic and the Federation. May we all live in true freedom in one day.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLdZc52k3cw&list=PLt-42CvsHkZ5us2tDDl63ewnuF1Nl7L
    NU&index=4

    There is still hope for the American nation. drinks
  93. 0
    25 March 2013 08: 42
    THANK YOU! I was really looking forward to this article in order to speak out about stupid American films. Gentlemen, everyone has their own opinion and often I may like one film, but my friend doesn’t like it. BUT, just a couple of days ago I watched the film ARGO, I haven’t seen such stupidity for a long time. It’s completely idiotic. But the most offensive thing is that young people will think that this is how it’s done, that it’s the Americans who are so cool, etc. then I watched a couple of Russian comedies. What was that all about??? you know, maybe it’s just me, but nowadays Russian comedies are trying to outdo others in perversity. in a word, it’s time to introduce censorship and to hell with this freedom of speech and thought
    1. Explore
      +1
      25 March 2013 20: 05
      Young people won't think like that. Don't make us look like idiots. We are more predisposed to new technologies, and therefore we learn 99% of information from the Internet. Therefore, one might say, we are more protected from propaganda of any degree and side.
      That’s why I talk about the impossibility of prohibitive measures. You can't ban the Internet. But I support rationing of display and restrictions on all trash.
  94. 0
    25 March 2013 15: 01
    The survey showed that the main complaints of Russians against the media are not related to the lack of freedom of speech, but to the absence or insufficiency of censorship. 58% of citizens are convinced of its necessity, pointing to the oversaturation of our media with violence, vulgarity, disinformation and lack of culture. And who are the owners and top managers of our newspapers, magazines, television channels - not the Ivanovs, Petrovs, Sidorovs...
    PS A couple of years ago I spoke with one SMERSH veteran. He said that in addition to “In August 1944”, a more or less real film is “Saboteur”. Is that two films in so many years???. And about the film “Bastards” - this is for the fascists. Again, from his words.
  95. 0
    25 March 2013 16: 26
    Correct topic. A really serious question is why in new films the Russian soldier is more of a repulsive character than a defender of the Motherland. It feels like these same films are being made by the same Americans.... How must one hate one’s own people in order to disgrace them like our would-be directors... Against the background of this self-flagellation (or flagellation), the moronic patriotic films of the Americans give them a hundred points head start ... But these are not our soldiers, not our values... Who benefits from raising American patriots in Russia?
    But do not forget that in addition to thin. films. Russia also indulges in defamation through new textbooks, and this is already a flaw (or work) of our Ministry of Education....
  96. Xay
    Xay
    0
    25 March 2013 18: 00
    Good article, on topic. Thanks to the Author for the Article.
  97. 0
    25 March 2013 19: 30
    I haven't always been a patriot. From early childhood I watched American cartoons, in which there was a share of American patriotism. And I used to think that America is good, that they are the main ones and it cannot be any other way. When I was about 12 years old, I suddenly thought, “Why are they the main ones, and not us?” I asked my dad this question, and he told me the truth (for some reason he hadn’t done this before). After this conversation, I took off my “rose-colored glasses” and understood what patriotism is.
    PS American films, especially action films, are rich in absurdity, which children can take seriously and as truth, so our children need to instill patriotism as early as possible so that they understand what’s what.
  98. Explore
    +1
    25 March 2013 19: 57
    The topic is really interesting. True, I noticed that views are very dependent on age.
    You are scolding young people for no reason. Today's youth are much more patriotic than older people. I say this as her representative (21 years old). Our patriotism may not be Soviet, but we grew up in another state, and that’s why we love the new Russia.
    For older people, this is no longer the case. They see what is happening in the world, in the country, in government.
    There are fools, but they exist in every age and social group. There are quasi-patriotic Americanists, but they appeared back in the 60s, and the same Novodvorskaya is now 62 years old, Bukovsky is 70 years old, Kovalev is 83 years old, Alekseeva is 85 years old.

    Actually the question is: should I write a sequel? Or is my “creativity” too mediocre? Any comments?
    1. +1
      25 March 2013 21: 00
      Quote: Explorar
      Our patriotism may not be Soviet, but we grew up in a different state,
      That’s the whole problem. You can’t be a little pregnant. It’s the same with patriotism, you either have it or you don’t. It also can’t be Soviet, Chinese, Paraguayan. Another country is also an excuse or if it happens that I can shout that I’m in The USSR has grown, and now the country is different?
  99. 0
    25 March 2013 21: 18
    Hello everyone. Before this, I had been just reading topwar for over a year, but after this article I really wanted to throw in my 5 cents.
    The author of the article definitely +. After reading Mr. A. Plekhanov’s article, I specially reviewed this remake (I remembered that I watched the original in 2000, some shaggy year, my advice is not to watch the original, it’s generally terrible, this remake is better).
    - Someone swears a lot about Rambo 2. One sentence:
    "Why hate the country?
    - Yes, I will give my life for her
    I want this country to love us the way we loved it and died there."
    I will re-watch Rambo 2 just for this phrase.
  100. +2
    25 March 2013 22: 19
    I watched “Rambo 1” when I was a teenager and thought, “Cool,” but after the “business trip” I understood the meaning of the film. The war veteran simply went crazy when it turned out that the country that sent you THERE doesn’t need you.

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