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American patriotism through the eyes of a Russian person, or is it necessary to prohibit foreign cinema?

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This article is a response to the article. "Russia really became a colony of the United States"


Scrolling Once Again news information of "Military Review" for a cup of coffee, I came across this article.

Do coincidences happen in life? I happened to them, because literally half a day before that I decided to visit the cinema and, for lack of a better one, I took a ticket to the film “Elusive”. He was the main character of the article.



So, what, in fact, speech. The author of the article, Alexander Plekhanov, actively probing all the novelties of film distribution, found in his opinion “non-patriotic Western films” and wondered: why do we let them on the screens? Wouldn't it be better to ban the display of these pictures? The aforementioned film seemed particularly antipatriotic to him.

The film is like a film. Actually, the template Hollywood style: action, shooting, snot, bad acting, a lot of stupidity and pseudo-documentary events. However, with all this, the film seemed to me more than patriotic, and in a good sense of the word ...

Yes, it happens when the author of the picture seems to be trying to convey one idea - wild American patriotism, and the result is a chaotic mixture of stupidity and parodies. In general - a funny movie.

American patriotism through the eyes of a Russian person, or is it necessary to prohibit foreign cinema?


The first ridiculous scene is a mass landing of the enemy on the peacefully sleeping United States. Broken stamp, frightening everyone already a century.
In 40's, a massive Japanese landing was not expected. During the Cold War, the landing of the Soviets was not expected. Now here's a new attack. Long thought who: Russian again, or is it Chinese? It turned out the North Koreans ... But how, albeit numerous, but technically backward army, which does not have superiority even over its southern neighbor, and with the BTA fleet in the whole 3 of the Il-76 and a couple of dozen old An-2 and An-24 suddenly treacherously attacked a peaceful America? By the middle of the film they will give us a hint - they say, not without the help of the Russians. But all the same, there could not be many attackers, since there could not have been many planes.

In Russian in this stories By the way, too, has its place - they captured the entire west coast of the United States and part of the central states. Apparently, like the North Koreans, exclusively by the forces of the Airborne Forces. True, given that some of the aircraft had to be sacrificed to the "allies," the number of troops was interested. Hardly more than two divisions. Against the entire American army ... And Japan, the Republic of Korea and all NATO seems to have surrendered even earlier. Get away ...

And 10 or 20 thousands of harsh Russian paratroopers, along with the same number of paratroopers from North Korea, were able to crush more than half a million groups of US Ground Forces and as many national guardsmen ... During the day ... Taking all American equipment into trophies ... Not is there really something to be proud of?

Further we learn the details: What are American soldiers? Where are these fighters for democracy and universal happiness? It turns out they dropped an electromagnetic bomb and, of course, everything Tanks, the strikers and hammers immediately died out, the machines broke down, the grenades stopped exploding, the knives went dull, the hamburgers in the fridges went bad. In general, as always, with such a story - the Yankees do not fight ice. But the invaders immediately received trophy vehicles.

By the way, the North Koreans were surprisingly not made idiots - quite sane soldiers. And not even a single Russian was killed. Yes, and from the Russians there they showed only one paratrooper, which the "partisans" immediately ranked as the Airborne Forces Special Forces (from the 45 Guards. Special Forces regiment, perhaps?). But he turned out to be so harsh that he didn’t even participate in any shootout, but only watched and advised ... It was clear from his cold-blooded, murderous gaze that he had captured all of Washington with his own hands and burned it to the ground. Clinton era brothel - White House.

And I have only one question: why wasn’t this film made by us ???

A joke, of course, but in every joke there is some truth.

Why, instead of such films, we shoot all sorts of “Penalties” and “Burnt by the Sun”, showing our ancestors exclusively in the form of dull cannon fodder?

But we knew how to shoot. Let us recall the Soviet school of cinema: “The battalions are asking for fire” by Chebotarev, “Liberation” by Ozerov, “Some old men are going to battle”, Bykov and others. Beautiful films, classics of the genre, so to speak.

In 90, we were not in the mood for high art - everyone enthusiastically watched movies about gangsters.

At the beginning of 2000-x the situation changed, there was hope for the "recovery" of the body. The Star (2002), Off-Mission Assignment (2004), At Untitled Altitude (2004) movies have appeared.

True, then rather strange pictures began to appear again:

"Bastards" - a strange film about child criminals, which "bloody regime" sent to the last battle. The author clearly does not know that all the numerous sabotage groups, and there were many of them formed during the war, as a rule, were formed from party, ideological communists and "trustworthy" athletes.

“Shtrafbat” is a mockery of history on the part of Volodarsky and Dostal.
"Burnt by the Sun. Standing on" and "Burnt by the Sun-2. Citadel" is the most expensive and most disastrous film in the history of Russian cinema, a video collection of myths invented in the inflamed brain of Nikita Mikhalkov.

"4 of May Day" is a film about the war of "good Russians" with "good Germans" against "bad Russians" ...
These films were not created in Hollywood, they were created in Russia, with Russian actors, and were financed by our Ministry of Culture ... Maybe it's time to think about our films?

And as for Hollywood - do not bother to fill your head. He makes pictures for himself. Promotes ideas of his country. It would be strange if it were different.

And the youth? - Young people are not as stupid as some think to orient their value system for cheap foreign films.

I specifically watched the movie "5 Days in August." Pretty laughed at the director's stupidity. And I was not offended for my national dignity, because the opinion of foreigners can in no way relate to it. And can not hurt.
Then he watched the video review of Evgeny Bazhenov about this film.

Yet the Americans are funny. Stupid, but funny ...





Patriotism does not bring up on prohibitions alone. Need to do it yourself. In family. What is the use of propaganda, when each of us sees what is happening around: bribes, betrayals, conflicts, troubles, crime.

The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, and this cannot be transferred to anyone else ...
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  1. Goga
    Goga 23 March 2013 09: 25 New
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    - Quote - "The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, ..." - that's right, only whether we want to or not, but TV and a movie theater are also part of upbringing and a lot depends on whose hands they are in . It is not necessary to prohibit products that are hostile to us, but to take away from the enemies the right to produce such products in general angry
    1. bask
      bask 23 March 2013 09: 45 New
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      American patriotism through the eyes of a Russian person, or Is it necessary to prohibit

      Do not prohibit, but to FILTER. Eliminating all rubbish. And Russophobia.
      And the main question about television. When these stupid ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show.dom-2 and another cosmopolitan ideological POISON developed in the Zionist centers of the United States and the CIA are finally closed. Especially dangerous for our youth.
      1. Explore
        23 March 2013 10: 34 New
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        The main question is not even that, but rather: when will the Ministry of Culture start making normal, historical films that glorify our past, rather than lining everything exclusively in black ?!
        House 2 is a stupid transfer, but it is self-financing, it pays off.
        US-2 Mikhalkov and all the above films were created exclusively with our money, with the money of the Ministry of Culture.
        Now the question is: when the ministry who does not understand the negativity in creating "reconciliation films" and "opens their eyes to the terrible truth" will disappear. Moreover, it would be nice if the negativity were historically delivered - because they are lying ... They are lying and speculating with facts ...
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 23 March 2013 11: 10 New
          +9
          Not with the money of a min of worship, but with our money. "The devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads."
          1. alex-defensor
            alex-defensor 24 March 2013 13: 29 New
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            I saw this film, I watched it to the end with difficulty. The actors' play is really weak, the film is designed for the internal viewer of the United States, in the best traditions of the Cold War era. A kind of COGNITION for the people.

            The author is right, but overly emotional.

            And I have only one question: why wasn’t this film made by us ???


            We still lacked such a r ... but to shoot !!! No, let’s not put pressure on “Hurray patriotism”, but develop consciousness among the people, and through it, love for the motherland.


            "Burnt by the Sun. Imminent" and "Burnt by the Sun-2. The Citadel" - the most expensive and most disastrous film in the history of Russian cinema, myth video compilation invented in Nikita Mikhalkov’s sore brain.


            The author still has to decideor mythologyor fiction "inflamed brain". If someone needs to explain this, then I am sorry for that person.
        2. kris
          kris 23 March 2013 12: 20 New
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          Quote: Explorar
          Now the question is: when the ministry who does not understand the negativity in creating "reconciliation films" and "opens their eyes to the terrible truth" will disappear.


          WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE !!!
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 23 March 2013 12: 54 New
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            Quote: kris
            WHEN THE COUNTRY'S LEADERSHIP WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE

            Probably the leadership personified itself with 90-year-old feeble old people.
            1. vjhbc
              vjhbc 23 March 2013 15: 47 New
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              in the USSR, and the old people stood, and that just didn’t give a damn about the army and the people (the people are servile army)
            2. vjhbc
              vjhbc 23 March 2013 15: 48 New
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              in the USSR, and the old people stood, and that just didn’t give a damn about the army and the people (the people are servile army)
            3. vjhbc
              vjhbc 23 March 2013 15: 49 New
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              in the USSR, and the old people stood, and that just didn’t give a damn about the army and the people (the people would be worthless and the servile army)
          2. Grenader
            Grenader 24 March 2013 13: 24 New
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            This guide should take a parade while sitting behind bars.
          3. Anti
            Anti 24 March 2013 14: 01 New
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            Quote: kris
            WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE !!!


            In my opinion, this relaxed state of the country's leadership (the bench doesn’t count) does not at all respect this great holiday, it’s kind of a message to those who look askance at Russia, like we’re ready, don’t even rock the boat. This is evidenced by the fact that the troops were dressed in field uniforms. Festive parade in honor of the 66th anniversary of Victory 2010
            1. Anti
              Anti 24 March 2013 14: 38 New
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              Quote: Anti
              Festive parade in honor of the 66th anniversary of Victory 2010


              wrong. Victory Parade on May 9, 2011
            2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
              NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 March 2013 17: 00 New
              +5
              There was a feeling that the troops had just arrived from the exit and did not have time to change clothes, no Yankees and no one humiliates our army and veterans and the people except their own drivers .....
          4. Pushkar
            Pushkar 24 March 2013 14: 27 New
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            Quote: kris


            WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE !!!
            The Victory Banner at that time was carried behind the Vlasov tricolor.
          5. NOBODY EXCEPT US
            NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 March 2013 16: 56 New
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            A brother got to the point, plus a huge .....
          6. kostiknet
            kostiknet 29 March 2013 11: 14 New
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            Quote: kris
            WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE STAND ATTENDING THE VICTORY PARADE !!!

            It? Yes, never! They only accept Gay Pride parades (judging by the disregard for bored persons). The poor ones get tired very much, their legs are not the same ... So they are resting from the cares of the great ones, they are waiting - when this "bootleg" will end and you can stomp to the table go reign further.
        3. skeptic
          skeptic 23 March 2013 13: 35 New
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          Quote: Explorar
          House 2 is a stupid transfer, but it is self-financing, it pays off.


          Are you sure that it does not pay off through "appropriate sources" interested in the debauchery of the younger generation?

          Quote: Explorar
          Now the question is: when the ministry who does not understand the negativity in creating "reconciliation films" and "opens their eyes to the terrible truth" will disappear. Moreover, it would be nice if the negativity were historically delivered - because they are lying ... They are lying and speculating with facts ...


          Well, this is the specific work of agents of influence. The fight with them is the same as with everyone else - HUMOR and FACTS.
        4. Sinbad
          Sinbad 23 March 2013 14: 38 New
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          When - no one will say. But there is one suggestion: rename the Ministry of Culture into the Ministry of Culture.
          1. Denis
            Denis 24 March 2013 01: 37 New
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            Quote: Sinbad
            rename the Ministry of Culture in the Ministry of Culture.
            It seems to me that it would be more accurate in the Ministry of Labor
          2. Dilshat
            Dilshat 25 March 2013 21: 22 New
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            it is necessary to change the minister. or even better to change the one who puts such ministers. that is not a minister then a thief then (censorship).
            1. Dilshat
              Dilshat 25 March 2013 21: 35 New
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              Put Dom2 in a separate paid package with channels of erotic and other contents. And this problem will be partially solved. This will be done over time. I hope ...
              1. Denis
                Denis 25 March 2013 21: 47 New
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                Quote: Dilshat

                Put Dom2 in a separate paid package
                It’s naive to think so, they’re sleeping and see how to put it on the central one. The transfer is r ..., but can you imagine the place in the ad unit in it how much does it cost?
                Yes, for such profits, the channel’s management will sell their mother and mother with joy
                They may have patriotism, but there is money right away, so what questions may be
        5. vjhbc
          vjhbc 23 March 2013 15: 44 New
          +5
          these muaks making reconciliation films and so on. I need to tear off my mother’s handles. 2 years I was nearly driven away to Germany. I wonder what she would do there at that age. Well, at least they managed to get away from the column with my grandmother, and another grandmother was also in occupation, so a German officer forged a shepherd onto my native uncle. 3 years was so the grandmother ate managed to hide him under the skirt
          1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
            NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 March 2013 17: 02 New
            +3
            My mother was driven west at six ... at 42nd ....
        6. Max Russian
          Max Russian 24 March 2013 16: 33 New
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          We have so many of our heroes over centuries of history that you can make dozens of powerful films. Offhand: about Suvorov (naturally not a rezun, but A.V. Suvorov), about the Crimean War, Borodino, the Battle of Kulikov, etc. And as for the Mikhalkovsky "masterpieces" .... some emotions "-"
        7. nakaz
          nakaz 25 March 2013 17: 02 New
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          In addition to the vaunted American missile defense landing in a puddle, allowing the landing, I don’t see anything special in this film. Ordinary heroes are victorious, killing enemies in batches. In life, they will be put in half an hour in the first battle.
      2. Iraclius
        Iraclius 23 March 2013 10: 48 New
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        And, here, for this rubbish I agree - this pornography, the so-called "reality show" must be banned - I am with both hands in favor. And I explain why - if the film is the film, even the teenager understands that everything is “pretense”, then these shows are “reality” because the orgies taking place on the screen are accepted by fragile minds at face value. And then we see - young girls with a bare belly in the frost -20. Hefty young guys who basically do not want to work, etc. etc.
        Deny and remove from all channels. angry
        1. Basilevs
          Basilevs 23 March 2013 11: 19 New
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          Quote: Iraclius
          And then we see - young girls with a bare stomach in the frost -20.


          ... And then these same tearful young women at the gynecologist’s office who were killed by the verdict of doctors. However, the doctors here are not to blame. The teleconstructor who all these porno realities puke is to blame.
          1. Iraclius
            Iraclius 23 March 2013 11: 50 New
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            So I am about the same. My wife’s girlfriend just got it - everything was chasing fashion. Both ovaries were taken. Both of the same age, but mine, for some reason, walked and walks in the winter in a fur coat, and she with a bare belly. And why? But because my mother-in-law does care about her daughter. request Parenting is everything.
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 23 March 2013 17: 09 New
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              Quote: Iraclius
              But because my mother-in-law does care about her daughter. Parenting is everything.


              And to son-in-law? Probably also brings up laughing
            2. Ascetic
              Ascetic 23 March 2013 17: 56 New
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              Quote: Iraclius
              So I am about the same. My wife’s girlfriend just got it - everything was chasing fashion.

              My daughters also tried in my youth. but they didn’t succeed! stop Now the adults. Married already, the wind from the head basically weathered
        2. ars_pro
          ars_pro 23 March 2013 15: 00 New
          +5
          I read the article, and came across the thought of which I had previously thought, drawing parallels between our art and foreign, I would also like to draw attention to the heroes.
          Talk about the heroes and their significance, do a debriefing, so to speak, analyze and compare. So if we take the goals and methods of foreign heroes, their human qualities, and methods of achieving a particular goal, we can see that one cannot do with robberies alone, and it is not even necessary to kill the fallen enemies left and right from one clip in the amount of 100500, in order to enrich oneself, which is the main idea of ​​foreign films. And taking into account the fact that all these "movies" are designed for a thoughtless consumer who surged in the wave at one time, the images of foreign heroes, to put it mildly, leave much to be desired.
          Our heroes are fundamentally different, and their goals are different and methods, they are more humane, and they will think 300 times before killing a man, remember Danil Bodrov, when he made his way to the 100th floor to the American, he did not even begin to kill him, and one question , "what is the strength? in truth"
          The topic is actually extensive for research and analysis, but the essence and meaning for yourself can always be found and got to the bottom.
        3. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 23 March 2013 23: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Iraclius
          at. And then we see - young girls

          And then answer me such a question - who bought these girls these clothes? Who let them go into the street in such clothes? Where are the mothers? Dads? I admit that there may be a situation when parents do not see what the child went to, but there are always neighbors, who will say about it .... I would try in my youth to go half-dressed for a walk (but I also wanted to wear a hat and a breeches), my mother would simply not let me out of the house until I get dressed. Moreover, I would never buy a jacket to the waist. She didn’t give a damn what was fashionable or not. She proceeded only from practicality. Once a winter, clothes should be warm and that’s all! ... So there’s one piece of advice-watch for yourself what you buy for your children.
      3. ughhh
        ughhh 23 March 2013 11: 04 New
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        Quote: bask
        Do not prohibit, but to FILTER. Eliminating all rubbish. And Russophobia.

        There were a lot of good things in the USSR, but nonsense was enough. The informational, ideological blockade is one of them. "Metallic ban, propaganda of sex and violence." The output was the same zombies, only the comb of the brain was in the opposite direction. Remember the result? As we throughout the whole country mittens from the artisans after the fall of the iron wall.

        I am categorically against the fact that our state, which is not quite adequate in governance, tried to influence the upbringing of my children! Moreover, you should not climb here to all clever people from the Internet.
        I'll figure it out myself.

        ps if your children are confused by House-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.
        1. kris
          kris 23 March 2013 13: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: ughhh
          ps if your children are confused by House-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.


          ONLY SO REQUIRED!
        2. skeptic
          skeptic 23 March 2013 13: 53 New
          +8
          Quote: ughhh
          ps if your children are confused by House-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.


          It certainly can be so. I made it easier, I explained to my children that such a "creation" is done for people with very low intelligence. And it would just be strange to me that my smart kids can watch this. Who after this will be willing to look at the degrading At the same time, there are no prohibitions, only relevant comments from parents.

          True, this only works if you are always honest with your children. Any tongue-tied tongue will cross your, even the most good intentions.
          1. max-02215
            max-02215 23 March 2013 14: 51 New
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            I don’t agree, following your logic, then you can show any propaganda on the TV screen, and let the eunuch, pedophilia, and other abominations show, the main thing is to explain to the child what you can watch and what is impossible — demagogy, he will not watch at home, from a friend (girlfriends) look. Try to explain to the child that any pop music is not good, I’m sure he can and will agree with you, and then look at what’s on his phone or computer.
            Something for us adults (for example) does not reach to cross the road in a fixed place, not to exceed speed, well, everyone knows who is wrong where. These pure water transfers poison and brainwashing, and they were not invented by just one person (he called them!), But by entire collectives of special services with psychologists, to explicitly prohibit
            1. skeptic
              skeptic 23 March 2013 17: 16 New
              +5
              Quote: max-02215
              I don’t agree, following your logic, then you can show any propaganda on the TV screen, and let the eunuch, pedophilia, and other abominations show, the main thing to explain to the child is what can be watched and what is impossible - demagogy,


              I also do not agree. I am also against the abomination on the screens. In your opinion, if the enemy has occupied your homeland, then it is useless to explain to the children that the invaders are enemies? You may not agree, but the information from the screens, the last 20 years, is the occupation of our consciousness with the reformatting of brains from a spiritual person to a state of a brainless consumer.
              1. ughhh
                ughhh 24 March 2013 02: 28 New
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                Quote: skeptic
                the occupation of our consciousness with the reformatting of the brain from a spiritual person to a state of brainless consumer

                Perfectly noticed, but! An attempt to influence this process is just an attempt to achieve a certain result, not excluding the "occupation of our consciousness with the reformatting of the brain." They clogged the brain with one ..nom, then they began to clog the other. And the viewer cannot influence this process of “formatting”. Two states: watch gum or not watch. Democracy!
              2. sergius60
                sergius60 25 March 2013 12: 41 New
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                National tradition-s. BEFORE the 41st, that little party "pissed boiling water on the fascists"? Really dohrena met the "liberators" with a puppy screech. "Civilizers" have shown themselves to the fullest. Then it started ... If by the 43rd detachments they remained, then they managed to get the hell out of the troops. A veteran tanker recalled that in 43-44 they sometimes were stupid with tactics not because they didn’t know, but because after the liberated villages and towns they really wanted to get to the “fascist” carcasses very quickly. I owe such guys the life of my mother. Zaporizhzhya region, Melitopol district, the village of Mordvinovka - they drove everyone into the barn, prepared to burn LIVE. "Armor" in time. I ask bad questions. 1. Did the commissars have to work hard in propaganda? 2. How much do I want to embrace for the necks of the unfinished, proud of belonging to the "civilizers"?
            2. ughhh
              ughhh 24 March 2013 02: 16 New
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              Quote: max-02215
              I don’t agree, following your logic you can, then show any propaganda on the TV screen

              Are you still watching zog-tv? Watch all kinds of nonsense being breathed in from the screen, interspersed with hours of advertising, nowadays? The last time I looked at the box was 5-7 years ago and so far the desire has not woken up. Any gum for brains can be found on the Internet, including live broadcasts of all kinds of sports stuff.
              Following my logic, the TV should be thrown out right now. Those who do not kick out will be hit by brain liquefaction. There they are dear. Natural selection, s.
              1. Denis
                Denis 24 March 2013 03: 29 New
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                Quote: ughhh
                Following my logic, the TV should be thrown right away
                "... your logic is a little wild ..." - Nekrasov "Railway"
                Is Channel 365 Thinning Brains? There are a lot of sensible ones, though there are no shaves, no, they are trying to crawl with chewing gum from the Air Force, but we must filter
                Also with Star, NanoTV and Autoplus
                They will dilute the central ones, with all kinds of vessels, cook courses and yolk, since they are disabled
        3. revnagan
          revnagan 23 March 2013 16: 31 New
          +4
          Quote: ughhh
          ps if your children are confused by House-2, throw out the TV. I gave mine, despite the fact that it was large and plasma.

          But it was possible to download and watch the film "Solo Sailing." Filmed in the USSR back in the 80s, and although there are enough "mistakes", the film is cool and patriotic. I recommend it to everyone.
          1. ughhh
            ughhh 24 March 2013 02: 21 New
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            Do not worry, I have a very large monitor and high-quality acoustics. I’ll definitely look, thanks.
        4. dld35057
          dld35057 24 March 2013 03: 57 New
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          I support. I do not read newspapers and do not watch TV.
        5. sergius60
          sergius60 25 March 2013 12: 14 New
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          You are absolutely right. Delivered - "only combing the brain was the other way." If you don’t want to be cattle, don’t behave like that. If you want to be a GREAT PEOPLE - be it. I didn’t throw the telly - but I’m not watching the news on it. I cut into different sites. Alternative! Moss stimulate, I hope yes
        6. vitamin
          vitamin ky 30 March 2013 03: 20 New
          +2
          that's what a practical person means (just kidding) - I threw mine out of the window, forgetting by the way to open it crying - and as they say in such cases - "do not try to repeat it yourself" laughing this year will be exactly 10 years - I feel wonderful for what and I wish everyone
      4. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 23 March 2013 11: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: bask
        When they finally close these numbing ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show

        Here are the golden words! What is the use of banning Western vomit if all the more or less worthy shows and films have been dispersed through specialized channels? To Star, Carousel, Culture, etc. Why on central channels are there some moronic talk shows and homemaking series and series about cops and bandits (though they are indistinguishable there)? This is the problem, and not some stupid film in which any of our schoolchildren will find nonsense (just don’t need again about the fact that our youth are the most stupid).
        1. bask
          bask 23 March 2013 11: 36 New
          +6
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Why central channels have some moronic talk shows

          Channel 1 ORT should be deciphered as PUBLIC RUSSIAN TELEVISION. In the truest sense of the word !!! And not as a commercial brand.
          And on public television to go, only patriotic shows and films.
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 23 March 2013 13: 00 New
            +3
            Quote: bask
            And on public television to go, only patriotic shows and films.

            I absolutely agree with you, I think a country like Russia is able to pull (and not one) a public Russian channel.
        2. skeptic
          skeptic 23 March 2013 17: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: bask
          When they finally close these numbing ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show

          Here are the golden words! What is the use of banning Western vomit if all the more or less worthy shows and films have been dispersed through specialized channels? To Star, Carousel, Culture, etc. Why on central channels are there some moronic talk shows and homemaking series and series about cops and bandits (though they are indistinguishable there)?


          But this is the right question.
          If earlier it was decided, when seizing power, to take mail, telegraph, now it’s the media. Naturally, all the main media outlets were seized in the hunchback - Yeltsin mess and agents of influence were introduced into their leadership or the previous leaders were simply bought. Accordingly, they push for the main time, programs developed at the CIA institutes for disorientation in all the main spheres of human activity - as individuals. Accordingly, patriotic programs, films are put at an uncomfortable time for viewing. Since the channels, such as Star, culture, etc. accepted in very limited regions, they simply do not pay attention to them until attention.
          1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
            NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 March 2013 17: 09 New
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            So sometimes I want to say, wake up You are raving! The Great and Terrible rules the country for the THIRTEENTH year, do you really think that there are still Yeltsin’s there? There have long been everywhere vovin and dimin classmates and relatives ..........
        3. Denis
          Denis 24 March 2013 04: 18 New
          +4
          Quote: Vladimirets
          any our student will find
          Talked with a schoolboy:
          - Most of all I love American horror
          -Such rubbish, do you have enough control horrors?
          -And where will I still see so many killed Yankees (laughs, he doesn’t watch them)

          So not everything is lost
        4. stroporez
          stroporez 29 March 2013 15: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Why on central channels are there some moronic talk shows and homemaking series and series about cops and bandits (though they are indistinguishable there)?

          because the current government needs a people who apologize to the Poles, and give up the Kuril Islands and any nonsense that those who hold will believe
      5. brelok
        brelok 23 March 2013 20: 10 New
        0
        You are right about House 2. It is interesting to look at people watching this dregs! bully
      6. The
        The cat 24 March 2013 01: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: bask
        And the main question about television. When these stupid ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show.dom-2 and another cosmopolitan ideological POISON developed in the Zionist centers of the United States and the CIA are finally closed. Especially dangerous for our youth.


        You probably do not know what kind of Dom-2 you should thank the Russian television people. And Sony even bought from NTN a license to produce this epic creation.
      7. starshina78
        starshina78 24 March 2013 14: 01 New
        +3
        I raise both hands for you! To the stake? Until the stake on our TV will be moronic "Comedy Club" and "Holidays in Mexico", "House - 2" and "Happy Together", our new movie, such as "The Best Movie", "Hitler Kaput", and many similar der. .... I have two granddaughters of dangerous age (14 and 13 years old). I try to protect them from watching these programs, but it’s difficult. At least they did not fall under the influence of this consumer goods, but the mass of youth sat down on it. Why not reanimate good programs in the past, put them in a new manner. After all, we had an excellent studio of youth programs, and our programs were bought for production abroad, and not as we are now collecting all the garbage around the world, and especially in the USA. They themselves have all become there, so let's not let our children become like them.
      8. UPStoyan
        UPStoyan 24 March 2013 14: 49 New
        +2
        If you started to shoot such films again, it means again that you need to keep your fellow citizens in good shape. They are again afraid of Russia as in Soviet times, if they frighten ordinary Americans with hordes of "Russian barbarians" on tanks, and paratroopers somewhere in Massachusetts - it means that things are going well with us)))
      9. AndreyAB
        AndreyAB 28 March 2013 07: 01 New
        +1
        And for a start. you need to write the truth about your people in school books, not the truth written by the "progressive" Anglo-Saxons.
    2. Dinver
      Dinver 23 March 2013 09: 46 New
      +6
      And 10 or 20 thousands of harsh Russian paratroopers, along with the same number of paratroopers from North Korea, were able to crush more than half a million groups of US Ground Forces and as many national guardsmen ... During the day ... Taking all American equipment into trophies ... Not is there really something to be proud of?


      The most amazing thing that they could. wink Thousands of 400 would have deserted from this half-million army, since they go there not for their homeland, but for money. And most ordinary Americans do not like the current federal government. There would be a desire to start, and there are enough people who want to have more than one SAGA (free army of the states of America).
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 23 March 2013 11: 13 New
        +2
        Could not. Americans fight very well when they have a numerical and technical advantage. What the Yankees cannot take away is the effectiveness of the interaction between the various branches of the armed forces. And it will always be so (as long as there is not a bargaining chip).
        1. Shikari91
          Shikari91 23 March 2013 18: 04 New
          +4
          Yes, they’re not particularly fighting, most of the soldiers drink too much, and there are more suicides than those who died in battles.
        2. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 23 March 2013 23: 30 New
          0
          Have you tried anything? Or do you know from the movie too?
      2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 March 2013 17: 10 New
        +1
        Have you talked to ordinary Americans? Or, for the sake of a red word, we will not regret father too?
    3. self-propelled
      self-propelled 23 March 2013 10: 11 New
      +7
      hit the enemy with his own weapon - who prevents Russian filmmakers from making films in the same vein? only give money.
      1. Explore
        23 March 2013 10: 36 New
        11
        They give money. They only remove US-2, Bastards, 4 days in May, but the penal battles ...
        As an exception, only the "Brest Fortress", and even then it was essentially Belarusians.
        1. Denis
          Denis 24 March 2013 01: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Explorar
          Bastards,
          Horror! Kunin found confusion, I can’t even believe that the author of Kysi, the Crazy and other good things could write this
          It’s like the Yankees about our life. In the DRG, only volunteers were taken, what was the use of the saboteur as a threat to the enemy’s rear
      2. vilenich
        vilenich 23 March 2013 11: 14 New
        +1
        Yes, it’s time to take on the current filmmakers!
        I am once again convinced of how right they were in the USSR, when individual films were not allowed for rent, but put on a shelf! During the reign of perestroika, they were released on the screens and where are these masterpieces forbidden by "vile censorship"! I am not a film critic, but nothing pops up in my mind, except for a few more or less normal films.
        So it’s time for today's filmmakers to stop showing off when they don’t know what else to come up with, what vile vices to bring to the screen! I am generally silent for Mikhalkov, forcing him to pass an exam in the history of the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR, and the Russian Federation, and only in case of a positive result should he be allowed to continue his activities under strict control!
      3. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 23 March 2013 11: 39 New
        +4
        There are no filmmakers. Here it is - there’s a bit foul, Mikhalkov’s, but there are no filmmakers. To make a movie, a certain "creator" is completely not enough, the director is a smaller and less important part of this film.
        How does Hollywood do this? Two cash flows are washed there. The flow of drug mafia and the flow of the CIA-NSA. The director takes the withers with an iron hand and, without deviating anywhere, clearly takes off what was ordered to him, observing completely iron rules and restrictions. Drug traffickers are allowed to launder billions (they own movie theaters, and they release symbols and puppets and the devil’s devil. Everything where you can drain the cash flow and make it revenue) for a strict ideological orientation and embedding in the film installations approved by specialists.
        Intelligence agencies also wash billions, often also narcotic ones, it’s just an operational reserve and maneuvering money, they overthrow, bribe and pay the killers without reporting to Congress. The limitations are the same, they just gladly advise the militants. As a result, the action movie is even more stupid (why should they shine real techniques), but with a peculiar touch ... like "Mr. and Mrs. Smith."
        The director’s task is to make a hit, or at least a strong middle peasant, so that there are grounds for money laundering. As you can see, there is no place for “art,” let alone “creative freedom" ...
        To make a film that is normal in viewing, the director least needs freedom. He inevitably slips into disgust, simply because creativity and discipline are antagonists. A bad thing is much easier to do. There is no iron hand guiding the director with a grip on the back of his head, there is no one to periodically gently tap on the snout - there is no movie. And there will be ....
      4. skeptic
        skeptic 23 March 2013 14: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: self-propelled

        hit the enemy with his own weapon - who prevents Russian filmmakers from making films in the same vein? only give money.


        I completely agree with the first half. But with the second ... We have not made a lot of stupid, or rather simply enemy films, for the money of the state?
      5. djon3volta
        djon3volta 23 March 2013 17: 48 New
        -3
        Quote: self-propelled
        who prevents Russian filmmakers from making films in the same vein

        filmed, for example, AUGUST EIGHT good the exact opposite of "5 days of August"
        or "07th changes course" about the TU-160 cool film.
        1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 March 2013 17: 14 New
          +1
          August XNUMXth-TALE. !!! The rest of the above have not seen .... I can not say anything ....
          1. ultra
            ultra 24 March 2013 23: 16 New
            +3
            Quote: NOBODY EXCEPT US
            August XNUMXth-TALE. !!!

            Personally, I liked it! good
    4. self-propelled
      self-propelled 23 March 2013 10: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Gogh
      here it is not necessary to prohibit products that are hostile to us, but to take away from enemies the right to produce such products in general

      any prohibition will cause even greater interest. patriotism among our youth must be developed. so that they love their homeland, and not obscurant ... on every corner. so that they do not run after Western pseudo-values ​​(with their same-sex marriages and gay parades), but value their own, native. and for this we need a powerful support
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 23 March 2013 23: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: self-propelled
        go need a powerful support

        To do this, we need normal parents, first of all, so that they don’t say one thing at home, but do something else. They probably heard a Russian proverb, teach while lying across the bench. So it is. What will be sown at that age will continue to grow.
      2. stroporez
        stroporez 29 March 2013 15: 40 New
        0
        need not
        Quote: self-propelled
        this needs a powerful support
        and tyma ...
        Schaub at the head of the shoto was
    5. Iraclius
      Iraclius 23 March 2013 10: 44 New
      10
      I agree with the author. This article is written in a more even style with a lack of excessive emotionality. To the author plus.
      He expressed his position yesterday and there is no point in repeating. The worldview of the younger generation with proper upbringing is really formed not by TV screens. We need to teach and raise children. Fortunately, while on the Internet you can find all the old and not very, but really patriotic works of art. Best of all, my point of view was long ago expressed by the Soviet Russian poet Alexander Yashin:

      In our myriad wealth
      Precious words are:
      Fatherland,
      Fidelity,
      Brotherhood.
      And there is also:
      Conscience,
      Honour...
      Ah, if everyone understood
      That these are not just words,
      Whatever troubles we have avoided.
      And it is not just words!
      1. Denis
        Denis 24 March 2013 01: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: Iraclius
        expressed the Soviet Russian poet Alexander Yashin:

        In our myriad wealth
        Precious words are:
        Fatherland,
        Fidelity,
        Brotherhood.
        And there is also:
        Conscience,
        Honour...
        Ah, if everyone understood
        That these are not just words,
        Whatever troubles we have avoided.
        And it is not just words!

        The school will not work, no tolerance
        and now her lessons are being held
    6. denisey
      denisey 23 March 2013 11: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Gogh
      - Quote - "The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, ..." - that's right, only whether we want to or not, but TV and a movie theater are also part of upbringing and a lot depends on whose hands they are in . It is not necessary to prohibit products that are hostile to us, but to take away from the enemies the right to produce such products in general angry
      My opinion is, let them take off what they want, and our Ministry of Education and Science should educate and raise patriots and not what is now successfully done thanks to the Fursenko freaks. And we ourselves need to teach our children to love our homeland!
    7. lelikas
      lelikas 23 March 2013 11: 21 New
      +2
      It turned out to be North Koreans ... But how, albeit a large, but technically backward army, which does not even have superiority over its southern neighbor, and with the BTA fleet in as many as 3 Il-76 aircraft and a couple of dozen old An-2 and An-24 treacherously attacked peaceful America? By the middle of the film, they will give us a hint - they say, not without the help of the Russians. But still, there couldn’t be many attackers, since there couldn’t be many planes either.
      There is an answer - initially the Chinese army should have been in the film, but the Chinese menacingly narrowed their eyes and ops Koreans .... (this is a question of respect).
      Then I remembered the Stealth film - I didn’t understand at the cinema why our identifying signs are on the Korean Drying Hole - and then I turned on the English track on the disk - so there our plane and stealth flew to Russia - that’s how our translators and understudies fight against injustice. (although there we are not bad).
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 23 March 2013 11: 58 New
        +3
        Lelikas "There is an answer - initially in the film there should have been a Chinese army, but the Chinese menacingly squinted ops Koreans too .... (this is a question of respect)."
        You're right! And there is.
    8. skeptic
      skeptic 23 March 2013 13: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: Gogh
      It is not necessary to prohibit products that are hostile to us, but to take away from the enemies the right to produce such products in general


      I agree, it is not necessary to ban. There is a very interesting idea in the struggle - the use of the enemy’s energy, with the easy addition of your own, in the direction you already need. It is less costly, but more effective. Correctly put comments can make the most dangerous thing funny. The main processing, if not in advance, then in support. The main thing is that really smart people with a great sense of humor do this.
    9. Natalia
      Natalia 23 March 2013 21: 36 New
      +2
      Yeah, the movie "5 days in August" is nonsense .... I still got the courage and looked, well, breeee ...... and there is nothing to say.
      And I probably do not agree with the author of the article in the part that we do not have modern patriotic films, on the contrary there are such films:
      say Sea Devils ..... about combat swimmers, all five parts plus, also Sea Devils Tornado, as well as full-length films Sea Devils: Fates
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 24 March 2013 08: 41 New
        +9
        Let me argue ...
        I go to sea for 27 years.
        And when I see the creations of filmmakers about sailors, about the life, life and work of sailors, I want to cry with laughter and embarrassment for such creations.
        I can only imagine what the real commandos think of the series "Sea Devils". Although not particularly looking, I come across blunders in the script, motivation. outfit, etc.
        It is necessary to separate propaganda and creativity.
        And you can ask: "What about them?"
        Let me give you an example on Norwegian TV.
        Throughout Norway, only 3 (three) open channels. Free. Digital.
        One of the three (open) channels is “given up” to children: from CHNUMX-mornings until 6-mornings ONLY CHILDREN'S programs are broadcast.
        On weekends, especially on days of significant sporting events including national ones, only SPORT on two channels is broadcast. Only news is wedged in. These days are announced - SPORTS.
        There is NOT ONE SHOW in the OPEN channels of Norwegian TV in the spirit of House-2, Let's fool around (get married), Speak and show the canoe ...
        Output.
        The Norwegian government brought ALL DUSABLE channels to the paid broadcasting network: do you want to watch erotica, English football, national giographs from discovery, etc. - PAYMENTS.
        But even on paid channels the level of "beyond" is censored.
        About TV of the British Isles, he wrote earlier.
        Summary.
        The process of raising children in the spirit of respect for their country begins in the family ("How the Motherland begins ...").
        “At the exit” we get that we cherished and cherished the whole childhood and adolescence of the educated.
        .. "and by its fruits we shall know ..."
        1. skeptic
          skeptic 24 March 2013 10: 42 New
          -2
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          I can only imagine what the real commandos think of the series "Sea Devils". Although not particularly looking, I come across blunders in the script, motivation. outfit, etc.


          They will say: "Well done, the less the enemy knows about the work of special services, the better." They didn’t ask why crime had been decreasing in the hours of the show, “Investigators Are Conducting Investigations”? Then it was the only way to find out how the investigation was being conducted, which allowed the criminals to draw appropriate conclusions. The prison was called a "university" in which convicts, as they shared at the symposium, learned errors. Now "educational program" from each screen, for any kind of crime. Draw conclusions on how “easier” it is for investigators to work with such an environmental info.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 24 March 2013 11: 10 New
            +4
            Well yes...
            It remains to "cover" the Internet - how much is unacceptably much here to dig up ....
            At the same time leave a couple of official TV channels ....
            Propaganda must be beautiful and honest.
            1. kris
              kris 24 March 2013 20: 27 New
              0
              Quote: stalkerwalker

              Well yes...
              It remains to "cover" the Internet - how much is unacceptably much here to dig up ....
              At the same time leave a couple of official TV channels ....
              Propaganda must be beautiful and honest.


              maybe for starters:
              power must be beautiful and honest
              1. Denis
                Denis 24 March 2013 21: 16 New
                +1
                Quote: kris
                power must be beautiful and honest
                What are you talking about, when and where? Unless in the city of the sun, and then only in a fantasy called utopia
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 11: 27 New
                  +4
                  Guys!
                  Maybe it's just a dream ....
                  But only at GAZPROM dreams can come true ...
              2. AndreyAB
                AndreyAB 28 March 2013 07: 04 New
                0
                Beautiful in what sense? There’s even a war in the cinema, and the one that turned out to be glamorous, with a happy end.
        2. Natalia
          Natalia 24 March 2013 10: 47 New
          0
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Let me argue ... I’ve been at sea for 27 years. And when I see the work of filmmakers about sailors, about life, life and work of sailors, I want to sob with laughter and embarrassment for such creations. I can only imagine what they think about the series "Sea Devils" real commandos. Although not particularly looking, I come across blunders in the script, motivation. outfit, etc.

          Firstly, you still don’t understand anything ........
          The same REMBO, I can imagine what real commandos think of him. However, there is such a film, and there are many of them, and they inspire in the minds and hearts of new generations an image of the invincibility and power of their country and their people, and this image in the future becomes fundamental ..... and people begin to believe that yes, there is here is such a kind of hero, or maybe several of them, who can stack enemies in stacks ..... and do not give a damn about what you will shout and ridicule, people will be happy to watch such films as: Hard Nut, GI Joe, Rambo and etc., and everyone doesn’t give a damn that this is not true, these films are brought up I generation ..........
          However, when you try to create something domestic, something of your own, which shows the superiority of precisely Russian weapons, the Russian army, there are nonsense people like you and start to ridicule such ideas, and I do not care about your opinion ..... because of films like SPECIALIZATION, Sea Devils, even the same Apocalypse Code must be larger, real victories are won in the minds and hearts of people, and this is why people need to be shown that we are so strong and that we are capable of much.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 24 March 2013 11: 06 New
            +4
            ... It seems to me that we speak different languages ​​...
            Unfortunately...
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 24 March 2013 13: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              It seems to me that we speak different languages ​​... Unfortunately ...

              And maybe fortunately ...... ciao
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 24 March 2013 14: 08 New
                +4
                It will be right WELCOME
      2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 March 2013 17: 16 New
        -1
        Tales for young people ......
      3. ultra
        ultra 24 March 2013 23: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: Natalia
        say Sea Devils .....

        Well, if the "August Eighth" is nonsense, then the Sea Devils can not even be determined! negative
        1. Natalia
          Natalia 25 March 2013 11: 13 New
          0
          Quote: ultra
          Well, if the "August Eighth" is nonsense,

          ......... I said "5 days in August" - learning to read, this is first.
          ...... I’d rather watch Russian nonsense than American nonsense - this is secondly.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 11: 30 New
            +4
            It doesn’t matter whose production the nonsense is viewed on screens and monitors.
            A man watches what he likes.
            And if nonsense sorted by nationality of production ....
            Oh. I'm afraid that here the doctors are powerless ... wassat
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 25 March 2013 19: 14 New
              0
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              It doesn’t matter whose production Brad is watched on screens and monitors. A person watches what he likes.

              I remember you, you are the very TROLL that does not skimp on verbal diarrhea.
    10. densyaophyng
      densyaophyng 24 March 2013 00: 03 New
      +1


      America war Korea no Russia no stupid
    11. yak69
      yak69 24 March 2013 23: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Gogh
      it’s necessary to take away from enemies the right to produce such products in general

      Remember how the great Lenin said at the dawn of the era of cinema? "Cinema is the most important art for us."
      He already understood what power movie production represents. Soviet cinema and animation was given the most serious state attention! For each picture and cartoon music was written by the best composers. Symphony orchestras voiced it. We wrote songs that became hits for all time - we still sing them. Before each picture, the director and screenwriter were required to study the material in the archives and shoot in consultation with professional consultants. Attention was paid to every detail of the interior and clothing. In short, everything was adult.
      Now we see dirt, lies, falsehood and vulgarity! Of the latest films, very few are worthy for thoughtful viewing - “Island”, “How I Spent This Summer” and “Twelve” (with a stretch). All!! The rest are serials that nurture Soviet life, vulgarity about modern rich people, stupid serials for housewives and cruel and moronic abomination for little ones - all sorts of transformers and shreks (developing pathological cruelty and early sexual concern!).
      All this is the result of the titanic work of numerous agents of influence and the liberal fall, calling itself the creative intelligentsia that has captured our cultural space and is successfully destroying it. Different Iksanovs, shvydki and Serebryannikovs, their faces alone are worth something !! (they took Russian surnames for cover) You look and immediately everything becomes clear - why are they here and whose program they are executing.
      In our family, we all protect our grandchildren from this dirt. They look ours, dear and kind. When they grow up, let them make their own choices, but for now we can protect - we will protect as much as possible.

      Need censorship, oh how it is!
    12. Edouard
      Edouard 25 March 2013 01: 03 New
      +1
      Let the enemies do anything, but do not let them go to your home - this is our area of ​​responsibility. And then the demand will be with us.
      I personally replaced the TV with Christ and His Bible. I advise everyone.
      My children will see TV only in the picture.
      At present, we are raising 2 children with my wife, in May the third.
      So everything goes according to God's plan.
  2. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov 23 March 2013 09: 27 New
    11
    The hammer author wrote everything correctly. And then they got already dible articles with authors whiners.
    1. Explore
      23 March 2013 10: 38 New
      +5
      Thank. I apologize in advance for possible grammatical, punctuation and speech errors that were encountered in the text. Just expressed his opinion.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov 23 March 2013 11: 17 New
        0
        I myself am still literate. wink
  3. Denis
    Denis 23 March 2013 09: 32 New
    +3
    These are not the times and opportunities now, as you prohibit. You have to do yours and bring up your childhood so that someone else’s not watched
    I’ve been 10 years old like no Hollywood ode I have seen a homosexual, and it’s not
    There is something to see, but so few
    1. Trance
      Trance 23 March 2013 09: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: Denis
      These are not the times and opportunities now, as you prohibit. You have to do yours and bring up your childhood so that someone else’s not watched
      I’ve been 10 years old like no Hollywood ode I have seen a homosexual, and it’s not
      There is something to see, but so few


      Denis, watch the Syrian video wink
      ё, there the soldiers dispersed, hammering evil spirits in the tail and in the mane http://www.syriantube.net/3059.html soldier
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 23 March 2013 10: 34 New
        +2
        "Denis, watch the Syrian video"

        Here, a lot has been collected in Syria. There are even comical (if I may say so about the war) cases with dolbs ---- ami - "fighters"

        http://evavalid.blogspot.ru/search?q=%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F
      2. Denis
        Denis 24 March 2013 01: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Trance
        hammer evil spirits in the tail and mane
        Fine! Good luck to them!
        thank you
    2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 March 2013 17: 20 New
      0
      You modest him not a little, he simply does not exist .......
  4. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 23 March 2013 09: 40 New
    10
    I agree one hundred percent, always argued that we need to put our films with our heroes. I recall our childhood as we absorbed the best of films: Alexander Nevsky, Chapaev, and a lot of other things. I look at modern Russian cinema and am amazed at who the heroes to follow, bandits, drinking cops, prostitutes, silly families. The most important thing in all modern films is that everything revolves around money. Money for today is the main character of all films, the most popular and sought after. Money turns into God, he needs to be worshiped, he can punish or have mercy, everything is in him and he must subordinate his whole life.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 23 March 2013 10: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Money turns into God

      The famous biblical golden calf. About which the Bible tirelessly warns us. But we, as always, are stubbornly deaf and blind. Give money, little money, not enough, not enough laughing
  5. Reddragon
    Reddragon 23 March 2013 09: 44 New
    0
    Hollywood drives his movies into complete dullness: a new weapon destroys the entire defense! BUT! As we see later - over the city flying fighter(I don’t remember, like "Horrent"), after which a handful of shkolota smashes the army, which, by landing (i.e. without heavy weapons), bent the most armed country in ... days fellow
    1. Explore
      23 March 2013 10: 41 New
      +2
      Come on. Without shkolota, American censorship would not have missed the film. After all, the money allocated for the promotion of patriotism.
      And since there is enough stupidity in all American films, it’s time to get used to it.
      Alas, we are not far from them.
      1. skeptic
        skeptic 23 March 2013 14: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Explorar
        And since there is enough stupidity in all American films, it’s time to get used to it.
        Alas, we are not far from them.


        More precisely, we come if we do not return to the origins.
  6. VadimSt
    VadimSt 23 March 2013 09: 47 New
    +1
    Well done SEREGA! ++++
    He himself spoke briefly about this in the above article! As she said ... it doesn’t matter - you need to be able not only to wipe yourself, but also to apply it yourself.
  7. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 23 March 2013 09: 47 New
    +6
    Soon the anniversary of the beginning of the First World War. I have a suggestion: let them make a film based on the attack of the dead. They deserve it - little-known heroes of a forgotten war. If it's cool to make a soldier Rain with a Rambo, they will nervously smoke on the sidelines. Who has the opportunity to throw a thought to Medinsky, he, judging by his books, is a real patriot.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 23 March 2013 09: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: FC Skiff
      I have a suggestion: let them make a film based on the attack of the dead.

      Something Already Have
      Attack of the dead
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 23 March 2013 11: 16 New
      -1
      It would be great.
    3. Iraclius
      Iraclius 23 March 2013 13: 07 New
      -3
      By the way, about the dead. Have you heard about the movie "Abraham Lincoln - Vampire Hunter"? laughing Americans are now in a state of little children. There, even some quite grown-up dads and aunts seriously believe that the first presidents fought against evil spirits. Therefore, such box office.
      attacks of the dead

      Are you talking about the heroic defense of the Osovec fortress?
      Yes, in our history, for each episode, you can shoot thousands of beautiful and patriotic films. Look at the directors? Who do we have?
      Over the past many years, only the White Tiger of K. Shakhnazarov looked - the impressions are contradictory.
      1. Denis
        Denis 24 March 2013 01: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Iraclius
        Americans are now in a state of little kids
        I would like it to be in senile senility. Children, if all is well, grow up and grow wiser, but after old age ...
    4. Kaa
      Kaa 23 March 2013 13: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: FC Skiff
      I have a suggestion: let them make a film based on the attack of the dead

      There is another suggestion: the events in Osovce are still a heroic but local episode of that war. And if you shoot a multi-part episode, about the war of the Yudenich army in 1915-1916 against the Turks - several difficult battles, the taking of fortresses, amphibious assaults, winter mountain crossings, Cossack patrols near Baghdad ... mmm, you’ll download what kind of shooting in the Caucasus you can organize .. .with subtext for both the Caucasian-Transcaucasian peoples and Turkey ... in general, the most successful operations of the Russian army of the 1st World War ... are worse than the Brusilovsky breakthrough ... and then in historiography they are reluctant to write about it (well, Yudenich then Petrograd almost didn’t take it), and most people have no idea what turmoil the Turks were repairing there and how hundreds of thousands of prisoners surrendered ...
      1. Iraclius
        Iraclius 23 March 2013 13: 55 New
        +1
        Yeah. Look what they did to Bayazet. Caucasus, Turks, Cossacks, assaults ... recourse
  8. Sirocco
    Sirocco 23 March 2013 09: 48 New
    +4
    Yesterday I commented on an article about the colonization of Russia. here they are these quotes. In our country, modern filmmakers have become Rukozhop’s in an instant. Watch films of recent years. This is a complete zvizdets. Such as the recent Chapaev - erotica, the White Tiger - fantasy, a separate conversation about Bastards, and At an unnamed height, these films seem to be funded by Russian crime, they say they also contributed to the Second World War. Although everyone knows this contribution. Robberies and murders. It’s time to return censorship for a long time, otherwise it will be like in a joke about Vovochka, where he tried the Bible, to reduce to the genitals. Here is the second quote. But how, and who, should fight this disgrace on TV? It is a pity there is no past censorship on TV. I would like to add animation here, this is generally a separate topic for discussion, although the subtext for the multi-console is the same as the entire European dermocracy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3du2BnS4pIk
    1. feanor
      feanor 23 March 2013 20: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Sirocco
      Yesterday I commented on an article about the colonization of Russia .... [/ b]

      I don’t argue that there are quite a few mediocre films that do not carry any meaning, which are absurd tetras, but there are normal patriotic films, for example, the Brest Fortress, Stormy Gates, and August Eighth, the stick is bent with the boy and his fantasies about robots, but also quite a good film, 9th company, although the story of a completely reversal in general, the quality of the film turned out to be good, even if it were made according to the real story it would have been perfectly fine, well, the films "We are from the Future" and "Fog" are pretty good films that are desirable to view. Yes, it is indisputable in comparison with Soviet cinema, such films as Liberation, They fought for their homeland, Only old people go into battle, etc. Current films certainly do not hold out, but still there are projects worthy of attention.
  9. SPACE
    SPACE 23 March 2013 09: 50 New
    +4
    All right, brief, sober and not scary. I repeat the censorship and the prohibitions on do not make sense, in the age of internet, everyone will choose. Time itself will put everything in its place. And as for patriotism, with such a GLORIOUS REAL history as ours, we have no other way.
    1. Explore
      23 March 2013 10: 52 New
      0
      A hilarious commentary on the dangers of Hollywood propaganda:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWHNKW5Ikhw
  10. opkozak
    opkozak 23 March 2013 09: 51 New
    +6
    Where is domestic cinema watching? Where are our alternative scenarios ?. The best military topics, at best about the Great Patriotic War. And Korea, Vietnam, Angola, Cuba? Amer in "The Hunt for Red October", Goebelsian showed the feat of sailors and twisted the truth. They have propaganda and censorship, and "The Case in Square 36-80" no one in the States will show. Remove "Brother 3", show all the rot of America!
  11. smel
    smel 23 March 2013 09: 51 New
    +3
    myth video compilation invented in Nikita Mikhalkov’s sore brain
    Regarding this celebrity I agree completely. On the authority of previous generations you will not go far !!! But why did he climb onto Olympus SKR again? Apparently, in this union of filmmakers, principle is absent, as is responsibility for the most important art that the previous government has brought to its knees.
  12. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 23 March 2013 10: 00 New
    +1
    funded by our Ministry of Culture ... Maybe it's time to think about our films?

    And at the same time about the Ministry of Culture itself
  13. rexby63
    rexby63 23 March 2013 10: 06 New
    +4
    Article plus. Only we ourselves and only in the family will be able to raise real people. The main thing is to apply a soul, not a mathematical calculation, and then all American propaganda will fly upside down.
    So what if they don’t make good films now? After all, they have already been removed. Who is stopping you from taking a cheap Rambo instead of taking a disc with the movie "Liberation" with your own hands in a video player. Believe me, it helps. Or books - a reading of "Not Listed" written almost 40 years ago forever discourages reading cheap detective stories and other tabloid novels. Because the books written by the Master and the films staged by the Artist will always attract attention, incommensurably greater than all the Pindo ... uplifting .. they are. The main thing is not to be too lazy and to focus on time
  14. Russian
    Russian 23 March 2013 10: 10 New
    +5
    I agree with the author of the article. I read somewhere that the Russian ability to "dig" is inherent, it is important for us to understand ourselves, in our history, and be sure to find the truth, but the truth is often different for everyone, therefore, I think such films appear in our country. And not only films, but also books, for example, which say that under Stalin half of the people sat, the rest was guarded. We need to be more patriotic, more patriotic.
    But I would note a couple of very good ones: “In June of the 41st”, “Stormy Gates”, and especially I liked the film “Brest Fortress”! I advise everyone to watch, I consider one of the best Russian films about the war.
  15. krokodil25
    krokodil25 23 March 2013 10: 14 New
    +3
    Quote: vladsolo56
    I look at modern Russian cinema and marvel at who the heroes are to follow, bandits, drinking cops, prostitutes, silly families. The most important thing in all modern films is that everything revolves around money. Money for today is the main character of all films, the most popular and sought after. Money turns into God, he needs to be worshiped, he can punish or have mercy, the whole essence is in him and he needs to subordinate his whole life


    There were, are and will be good domestic films a simple example:

    Tell me the American, what is the strength! Is it in the money? So the brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? I think that power is in the truth: whoever has the truth is stronger! So you deceived someone, made money, and why - have you become stronger? No, I didn’t, because there is no truth for you! And the one whom he deceived is behind him the truth! So he is stronger!
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 23 March 2013 10: 19 New
      0
      ask today's 15 year olds who Bodrov is and who saw the film Brother and Brother 2. I doubt that there will be many.
      1. krokodil25
        krokodil25 23 March 2013 10: 37 New
        +1
        Believe me, such films remain for a long time and bite into memory.
      2. Iraclius
        Iraclius 23 March 2013 13: 11 New
        +6
        My nephew (13 years) watched and is watching Bodrov’s films. And dragged him into quotes. hi
        You will be surprised, but he reads Pikul, reads B. Vasiliev, reads Soviet science fiction ... Pah-pah, so as not to jinx the guy. As long as children are born and raised by adequate parents, our country has hope and future.
    2. Fox
      Fox 23 March 2013 11: 21 New
      0
      Quote: krokodil25
      Tell me American, what’s the power?

      and now this film is banned from showing on TV ...
      1. Iraclius
        Iraclius 23 March 2013 13: 56 New
        -1
        Where does the information come from? belay I hear it for the first time.
        1. Pelican
          Pelican 23 March 2013 14: 22 New
          0
          Alas, turn the Fox. Not highly recommended. And there are a few, not very recommended. wink
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 23 March 2013 18: 33 New
            +2
            On one of the federal television channels, on New Year's holidays, Brother and Brother showed 2
  16. Rustiger
    Rustiger 23 March 2013 10: 18 New
    +6
    I think that the American inhabitants, by and large, do not care what is happening in Russia and who the Russians are. But still their media, textbooks and films do the “good” angry work, unobtrusively creating a negative image of Russia and the Russians, which sits with them somewhere deep in the subcortex. I think that the first association with the words Russia and Russians among American inhabitants, especially those older, is still communism, which is an absolutely terrible and hostile phenomenon for their way of life. I don’t know how many generations must change in order for this to change, and whether it will change at all.

    I read it somewhere for fun again. They asked American students (300 (?) People, ages 21 to 26) to name five things that come to their mind when they talk about Russia: frost and vodka are in the lead - two-thirds called frost, half called vodka. Half also remembered something from the past Cold War (Stalin, communism, the Cold War, the KGB, AK-47, etc.). One in three remembered something from a typically Russian - matryoshka, earflaps, Russian roulette, a bathhouse, kings, etc., of which only one person named bears and no one remembered the balalaika. A third were called American films with Russian heroes, a quarter - space exploration. Every seventh remembered sports, just as much remembered architecture, and just as much remembered a weak economy. Only two people recalled some scandals - about Litvinenko, about 'Kursk'.

    Damaged nation of a typical rabble. Every year they actively confirm this. By all means. . .
    And someone else is trying to "TAKE AN EXAMPLE" with THIS (you can't call it otherwise ...) Ugh. .
  17. SPACE
    SPACE 23 March 2013 10: 25 New
    +1
    The most patriotic detail is the Kalashnikov assault rifle
    1. bask
      bask 23 March 2013 10: 49 New
      +9
      Quote: SPACE
      The main detail is the Kalashnikov assault rifle

      ADD NOTHING.
      1. Black
        Black 23 March 2013 11: 15 New
        -1
        I would raise the fire switch a little bit higher ....
  18. shurup
    shurup 23 March 2013 10: 33 New
    +2
    I agree with the author. After reading the previous article, similar thoughts arose.
    That author suggested "banning" America by censoring films and so on.
    In exchange, except for the “Red Devils”, nothing came to mind. The Americans have a slightly different perception of the world than the Russians. Hollywood gives out to the mountain different products for domestic consumption and for external. This film prepares Amer public opinion for possible showdowns with North Korea on the principle that they attacked us in the movies. Russian bear is a Hollywood stamp, without it the sun in the east will not rise. From the side, of course, it is ridiculous, but America is feverish from real schoolchildren with machine guns. I would not be surprised if he had them in an unspoken ban on renting (or really stupid). But the funds spent on the filming should give the box office. Getting the movie to us is just an attempt to save the business and any censor would be offered an adequate rollback.
    Does that author want to be such a censor? Then what does patriotic movements and howling under a tambourine have to do with it?
    And I personally liked the scene from "Back to the Future", when modern young "Bandera" were given weapons and offered to personally shoot unarmed people in a ditch, including and swearing masks. But that is for me. View in America would completely disrupt the annual recruitment in the army, and we would increase the percentage of alternative specialists.
    1. bask
      bask 23 March 2013 11: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: shurup

      . Russian bear - Hollywood stamp, without it the sun in the east n

      The question immediately arises. Who created this stamp. And who owns the leading Hollywood film studios.
      And they belong mainly to the Jews. With dense Russophobic views. .this is a family business .. Therefore, these gentlemen will never change their views
      WE NEED YOUR STAMP IN THE CINEMA - A STUPID, GREEDY Amer !!!
      American Bear, Our answer to Hollywood.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 23 March 2013 12: 37 New
        0
        do not touch the bears they are ours
  19. sashka
    sashka 23 March 2013 10: 33 New
    +1
    It is necessary. Especially “clean” the min. Cult. Show “Rambo” on the OFFICIAL channels. However, like the rest of the rubbish .. Where the amers “wet” Our “in earflaps and in the toilet” it’s not “democracy.” This is TRIETS.
    1. rereture
      rereture 23 March 2013 11: 06 New
      +6
      Rimbaud's first blood. A Vietnam war veteran goes against the system, killing police officers and terrorizing the city. But the rest of the shit.
      1. not good
        not good 23 March 2013 12: 38 New
        +3
        When serving as an emergency, they looked with Rimbaud's co-workers, where he almost dispersed the US with a club, there was such bitterness at the Americans, for whom they were holding us. They only began to love their homeland.
  20. andrey777
    andrey777 23 March 2013 10: 34 New
    -3
    On the account of "Burnt by the Sun. Anticipation" and "Burnt by the Sun-2. Citadel," the author clearly got excited.
    1. Explore
      23 March 2013 11: 38 New
      +3
      Excuse me, what? Do you think these films are true?
      Good. I will not convince you.
      Penalty battalion, sailing tanks, the death of a company of cadets, boobs, attack of soldiers with sticks, drunk Russian generals and German officers listening to the wagner. As they say - all according to secret documents ...
      Find "Mikhalkov's Victory Day" in two parts of the same Evgeny Bazhenov. He made a review of the first film.
      Find the "Goblin Citadel Review" by Dmitry "Goblin" Puchkov. He made a review of the film second.
    2. ultra
      ultra 23 March 2013 13: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: andrey777
      On account of "Burnt by the Sun. Ahead"

      After watching this "movie" I felt ashamed of Mikhalkov!
      1. tomket
        tomket 23 March 2013 13: 43 New
        +4
        I felt ashamed even for the first part of "Burnt by the Sun."
        1. jjj
          jjj 24 March 2013 01: 18 New
          -3
          I looked at the Mikhalkovskaya Citadel once, then the second. There is no fiction. He knew about half of the episodes by the 30 anniversary of the Victory: a bomb to the church, a sea mine with an explosion and generally sea episodes, the case of the mine that the daughter stepped on, only in reality there was a “frog” mine, Kremlin cadets.
          As for the criminals, they fought quite a few. These are the so-called “leaked”. They were returned to the camps after the war. And in the camps, wars began between the "thieves" and "bitches." The combat experience of the “bitches” supported by the front-line soldiers who were imprisoned for crimes after the war cleared out a lot of thieves. In general, after the war, there was even an uprising of convicts in Komi in the North.
          If they will show the Mikhalkovsk film again, then I'll see. Something he captures and does not open immediately. Although there is enough “Mikhalkovschina” in the film, it is a patriotic film with philosophical implications, it cannot be put on a par with “Penalty”.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 24 March 2013 09: 31 New
            +4
            Add to the above ....
            My father, who fought from 1942 to 1945, answered all my questions about the veracity of films about the war (it happened at the end of the 60's, the chronicle of the dive bomber, “At war like in war” was released on the screens) that the films were unsuccessful), modestly looked away to the side, and replied that all this was not so.
            About the father - the gunner. On his account, being a gunner and then commander of the 8 gun of German tanks, I include one Panther.
            Victory, at the age of 21 year, met near Berlin. In a berth with a German - he told me, 8-year-old boy himself told.
            Output.
            Do not judge strictly the Mikhalkov brothers, Shakhnazarov and our other filmmakers - they are what they are.
            9 company, Roadblock, White Tiger, Citadel with the Anticipation - maybe not the best films.
            But we are all different.
            And I find it difficult to reproach the aforementioned directors, including Bondarchuk Jr. with Rogozhkin in the absence of patriotism.
            Separately, about the "Shtrafbat".
            Father himself, in his words, in the very first battle as part of a marching company in the spring of 1942, fled to the attack on a minefield with SVT in his hands.
            In that battle, he received from a German (when they reached the German trenches - who ran) a grenade with a long handle on his head (before the attack he didn’t put on his helmet - he was dude).
            For especially corrosive I will continue - after this battle the remnants of the marching company were disbanded. Father, as literate enough (he graduated from the beginning of the war 7 classes) was sent to serve in IPTAP.
            But that's another story ...
            1. Pushkar
              Pushkar 24 March 2013 14: 45 New
              -6
              Everyone has their own war. There were those who ended the war in Prague, and there were those who ended in German. The criminal bastard was enough. It’s a pity, some of them survived and gave birth to “worthy descendants”.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 24 March 2013 16: 32 New
                +4
                Zink behind the geyser, jerk ...
  21. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 23 March 2013 10: 34 New
    +2
    Well, this movie-making is a remake of the 80s movie, with the same name, Red Dawn. So in that film, an introduction was given, which talked about what was happening in the world by the time the film began.
    And it said that the Russians invaded the United States through Mexico and Canada, as well as from Cuba.
    And in this film, the authors somehow missed it.
    In general, the powerful landing scene is a reference to games like Call of duty Modern Warfare and partly Homefront
  22. rereture
    rereture 23 March 2013 10: 35 New
    10
    Now is the age of the Internet, television has faded into the background, everyone chooses what to watch, what to read, whom to believe. Plus, we are subconsciously proud of our country, here are examples.
    (everyone in the fleet knows that xxx is Russian)
    xxx> AFK for 5 minutes. I have to give vodka to my bear

    yyy> Russian?
    xxx> yes
    yyy> i know, vodka and balalaika
    xxx> yes, motherfucker, and still Kalashnikov and Topol-M

    - What can I write to English Maine about life in Russia?
    - Write that while I was going home from school, I had to beat three drunken bears, and one still stole your hat with earflaps
    - And then I was caught up by a drunk Kalashnikov and took the last bottle of vodka * (we live in Izhevsk)
    - Threatening you a long time ago withdrawn from service ak47 chambered for 7,62mm))
    - And when I nevertheless reached my wooden hut, I had to walk there without taking off my felt boots, after all, there was a snowstorm on the street!

    It was in one of the hot summer days in Moscow. I am sitting in a chat, talking with representatives of the world community. And somehow it happened that I especially talked with one lady, a teacher of the Russian language in some of the colleges of New Zealand. She herself has never been in Russia, but it seems she considered herself to be her (Russia) expert. Well, in the course of the conversation, she asks me, they say you are probably cold, freezing, poor things. And I'm sitting, sorry, in my underpants, wet as a mouse (recall summer!). Well, what was left for me to do. Yes, I say, it's cold. It is snowing very hard, interfering with typing, claudia clogs. Then she choked, felt sorry for us, the orphans and the wretched. Well, I continue to tell her about our simple Russian life: they say, he just came from a hunt, he flunked two bears. New Zealand stands in a pose and says that she is categorically against hunting, it is inhumane in relation to animals. Well, what am I saying to do if they attack children and take their vodka

    fint: went into chatroulet yesterday, stumbled upon 2 English women of 16 years old
    fint: one writes - oh, I recently taught about Russia at school
    fint: I learned from her - and what did I learn? she is cold there
    fint: then he asks - are you an aristocrat or a peasant?
    fint: said that we do not allow peasants to sit on the Internet

    rabbit_imbecilo
    I didn't know they have Internet in Russia

    aloneonthepluto
    The Internet is arranged through the Morse code. users are sitting and clawing bast on a stump, in the center of the forest central switches - a battalion of special rabbits with drums that switch the message further down the chain

    Here we hang the cranberries ourselves laughing
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 23 March 2013 13: 37 New
      +4
      You directly reminded, yesterday you spoke about this with a friend. Yesterday, he kicked out the first batch of the product using a moonshine laughing and then, in the process of tasting, there was such a conversation:
      He- I can do everything now. I can even assemble a nuclear reactor
      I - Just look - carefully, do not let the bear play with it
      He- Exactly! And you also need to drink vodka and call the KGB .... laughing

      It’s just that sometimes this cranberry is richer than any drug wassat
      1. rereture
        rereture 23 March 2013 14: 10 New
        +4
        We just love to laugh at ourselves wink
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 23 March 2013 17: 57 New
          +1
          rereture, exactly smile drinks
    2. valerei
      valerei 24 March 2013 22: 40 New
      0
      rereture, laughed heartily at the dialogue with the New Zealand. Unless, of course, this is all true. However, we have enough of these “hens”, and “chicken” too.
  23. fenix57
    fenix57 23 March 2013 10: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: bask
    Do not prohibit, but to FILTER. Eliminating all rubbish. And Russophobia.

    , Ahead of +. With both hands FOR. Bans alone will not help. hi
  24. plebs
    plebs 23 March 2013 10: 40 New
    +2
    Article minus. Show me the family that won against the cinema of modern, internet and television. Put Shepitko and this film on the screens of the cinema "Ascension" and look at the fees. I think we will not argue about the results. We lost to American propaganda in spite of all our cadet corps, Cossack cadet corps, etc., etc. You can get an individual child to watch “Hot Snow” at home on DVD, but then after watching with friends on the big screen of “Private Ryan”, I think he will accept the American version of the story of the Great War.
    1. Explore
      23 March 2013 11: 10 New
      +2
      Still disagree with you.
      We lost the information war in the 80-90s, when everyone began to think that "the West will help us" and "the West is always right."
      Now the situation is changing.
      "RT", it is also "Russia Today" has become an international channel and is engaged in excellent trolling of Americans. The CNN monopoly is a thing of the past.
      Great films like Brest Fortress appear, which are much closer and understandable to American fighters.
      And with "Ryan" what do you propose to do? Spielberg took it off with one single purpose - to show the Americans that their ancestors also fought in that war. The fact that we haven’t made such films for almost 20 years is our fault. The fact that we began to remove nonsense abruptly American - even more so.

      And now the question is: what will have a more negative effect in the formation of the views of the young generation: the film “Saving Private District” and “Pearl Harbor”, telling that the Americans also managed to fight, or the movie masterpieces “US-2”, “Shtrafbat” and “4 days in May, "showing how they say we fought ???

      Not in Americans, then all the horror ...
      1. plebs
        plebs 23 March 2013 11: 51 New
        +2
        Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.
        Thanks to Belarusians and the "last dictator of Europe"
        Not in Americans, then all the horror ...
        That's exactly what the author of the article "Russia really became a US colony" spoke about. Our officials are doing everything for our children to watch, and the directors filmed such opuses US-2, Shtrafbat and 4 days in May. And by the way, the "Citadel" was shot at the GDP in the "bad times" of the 2000s, so nothing changes.
        1. Explore
          23 March 2013 14: 01 New
          0
          The author nevertheless spoke of bad Western films and the need for prohibitive measures.
          I’m talking about our bad films and the ineffectiveness of prohibitive measures in the presence of the Internet.

          I took the film “4 days in May” much more painfully than “5 days in May”, which caused more laughter than negative.
          The same thing with films like "Burnt by the Sun and Co."
  25. radio operator
    radio operator 23 March 2013 10: 45 New
    +1
    The bulk of Hollywood creations lies in the plane of "genital" humor and mythical "universal values", which in essence are the propaganda of their lifestyle.
    If not forbidden, then at least put high protective duties on the screening of such films. Although we have started to release so much shit ...
  26. rauffg
    rauffg 23 March 2013 10: 50 New
    0
    I also watched “5 days in August” for the sake of interest, so foolishly propaganda, but it reminded me of one Soviet film “Go and See” 1985, it was shot in some scenes
  27. Boris55
    Boris55 23 March 2013 10: 55 New
    +1
    "If you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children."
    Eastern wisdom


    It is no secret that cinema is intended mainly for young people.
    Any information is a management tool, a tool for carrying out ideology to the masses. Visual information, visual images are the most effective weapons. 90% of all information a person receives through vision, images both on a conscious level and on a subconscious.

    In order to understand whether foreign cinema is good for us or not, regardless of the genre, it is necessary to determine whether the country wants a producer of the next masterpiece of the good of our Motherland in principle? By and large, Russia has only two allies - the army and navy. Foreign cinema works for a foreign state. Forms and lays down the behavioral stereotypes of the younger generation.

    I think a foreign movie is harmful.

    On the zombie of children in films and cartoons: http://klin.hutt.ru/viewtopic.php?id=40
  28. treskoed
    treskoed 23 March 2013 10: 56 New
    +2
    You can’t bring up patriotism with films alone. What examples do leaders give? Theft, bribes, fraud has become the norm. There is no faith in words and appeals. To educate patriotism, patriot educators are needed, and they are not allowed to create films.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 23 March 2013 13: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: treskoed
      You can’t bring up patriotism with films alone. What examples do leaders give?

      Parenting is a 90% personal example. And do not filter, and prohibit. The Forbidden fruit is sweet. You have to create your own worthy films. And it’s a lie that they won’t watch a film without special effects. How many heroic deeds are discussed on the forum. And let's remember the DOCUMENTARY movie. Where did it go. YouTube is essentially a documentary. How many views individual videos gain, there are no effects, nor artists of the "great", there is the truth of life. A competent educating text behind the scenes is necessary and that’s it. What is the most interesting documentaries there. Why they are not shown here is the question.
      PS, I would like to congratulate the football team of Israel which, winning Portugal 3: 1, was able to take the point 3: 3
  29. radio operator
    radio operator 23 March 2013 10: 58 New
    +1
    I cannot but note the golden words said at the end:
    The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, and this cannot be transferred to anyone else ...
  30. evgenii67
    evgenii67 23 March 2013 11: 00 New
    +1
    Hello everyone! Video on election day in Georgia, THIS IS A TURN good Let these films motivate American youth, such films can be shown to Russians (only not for children), let the American directors tear over the inferiority hi
  31. evgenii67
    evgenii67 23 March 2013 11: 08 New
    0
    Hello everyone! Video on election day in Georgia, THIS IS A TURN good Let these films motivate American youth, such films can be shown to Russians (only not for children), let the American directors tear over the inferiority laughing
  32. Black
    Black 23 March 2013 11: 25 New
    +3
    Prohibition is not necessary. the forbidden fruit, as you know, is sweet and attractive.
    Yes, and in the era of the Internet something to ban is unlikely to succeed.
    You have to make your own movie. We have wonderful youth - she will choose what is needed.
  33. Boris55
    Boris55 23 March 2013 11: 37 New
    -1
    "If you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children."
    eastern wisdom

    It is no secret that cinema is intended mainly for young people.
    Any information is a management tool, a tool for carrying out ideology to the masses. Visual information, visual images are the most effective weapons. 90% of all information a person receives through vision, images both on a conscious level and on a subconscious.

    In order to understand whether foreign cinema is good for us or not, regardless of the genre, it is necessary to determine whether the country wants a producer of the next masterpiece of the good of our Motherland in principle? By and large, Russia has only two allies - the army and navy. Foreign cinema works for a foreign state. Forms and lays down the behavioral stereotypes of the younger generation.

    I think a foreign movie is harmful.

    On the zombie of children in films and cartoons: http://klin.hutt.ru/viewtopic.php?id=40
  34. WWW.budanov
    WWW.budanov 23 March 2013 11: 37 New
    +4
    First, the words of the author Sergey:
    The future of our children depends only on ourselves and on our upbringing, ... "- Here! That very dominant quote to which we all approached, albeit from different sides! And to add our children, I add:
    - first, delete from the head (of the parent) such a concept as “Rights of the child” - this is all from the European homo .. and pedo ... (YES, in addition, the “little ones” begin to constantly demand “chocolate”, become a whiner, cowardly etc.).
    - it is impossible, in any case, to praise a child for simple help to an adult (It should be his DUTY, otherwise he will eventually help you for a "chocolate bar")
    - Punish, for unfinished work, things not cleaned up ... DO NOT regret with the words "we suffered during the war, even if they" survive. "
    They now "live": they smoke at school, watch open "porn", beat the old people ... BUT, in the case of really difficult situations, these "modern heroes" shamefully panic and "desert"! Therefore, REQUIRING from your beloved and only child, only and only help, And only occasionally, encourage, but not "chocolate" (for example, let him build a booth for a street dog or birdhouse, allocate money for this material ...). Here, each parent has its own “values”! I wish all young parents to pay attention (remember) to our classics (eg Gogol: "Taras Bulba") on these Cossack days of sons with a father, his punishment and pride.
  35. Bosk
    Bosk 23 March 2013 11: 41 New
    +1
    But is it weak for us ?, for example, the film "Hitler Kaput" .... well, honestly speaking, the filmman is so-so, but the direction itself is interesting, why not make a film for example ... "Makein Kaput" or "Bush Forever", I certainly understand that laughing at others is politically incorrect, but laughing at themselves is more impractical at times more ...
  36. rereture
    rereture 23 March 2013 11: 42 New
    0
    Why do most say that we have lost youth? You brought us up by the previous generation, and dump all your schools (gopov, TP, and other individuals) on TV and propaganda. As a child, I watched Soviet and American cartoons, I was deeply indifferent to hidden implications, I was interested in the action itself.
    When I grew up, my parents did not forbid to watch TV and any programs that went from 6:00 to 12:00. Q But for some reason I didn’t watch a big wash, let them say windows, a house, and later house-2, I didn’t look at second-hand books, comedy clubs, cadetism, ranetki and other slag. My friends and I loved watching discovery, especially programs to survive at all costs, legend destroyers, how it works, top gear, fifth gear, an American chopper, gunsmiths. An interesting was the techno channel.
  37. greka
    greka 23 March 2013 11: 50 New
    +2
    Hello everyone. Yes, we need to shoot our films as documentaries, it greatly affects patriotism and the education of young people. I am from Ukraine, Odessa, and I don’t know how you are in Russia, but I’m straight, I can’t watch Discovery channels and the like. They constantly watch films about the Second World War, so you watch them and understand that the Soviet Union did not take part in this war at all and the Americans and the Allies won the war. All films about battles with the Japanese and the landing in Normandy, so they present that, they say, these are the most important battles of that war. For a couple of years I only briefly saw briefly about Stalingrad and EVERYTHING !!! Where our governments litter. I would forbid by discovery, etc. show THEIR historical docks. Films, Let them Twist Science, etc. And historical dock films with our view of events should be issued by us, at least to our citizens and on our territory.!
  38. greka
    greka 23 March 2013 11: 51 New
    0
    Hello everyone. Yes, we need to shoot our films as documentaries, it greatly affects patriotism and the education of young people. I am from Ukraine, Odessa, and I don’t know how you are in Russia, but I’m straight, I can’t watch Discovery channels and the like. They constantly watch films about the Second World War, so you watch them and understand that the Soviet Union did not take part in this war at all and the Americans and the Allies won the war. All films about battles with the Japanese and the landing in Normandy, so they present that, they say, these are the most important battles of that war. For a couple of years I only briefly saw briefly about Stalingrad and EVERYTHING !!! Where our governments litter. I would forbid by discovery, etc. show THEIR historical docks. Films, Let them Twist Science, etc. And historical dock films with our view of events should be issued by us, at least to our citizens and on our territory.!
  39. rereture
    rereture 23 March 2013 11: 53 New
    +1
    In our school, meetings have been held (and are now taking place) with veterans of the Great Patriotic War (it is sad that every year there are fewer and fewer) and with veterans of the Afghan war.
  40. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 23 March 2013 11: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: Sasha
    It is necessary. Especially “clean” the min. Cult. Show “Rambo” on the OFFICIAL channels. However, like the rest of the rubbish .. Where the amers “wet” Our “in earflaps and in the toilet” it’s not “democracy.” This is TRIETS.

    Especially Rambo 3, where he is in Afghanistan! Complete nonsense!
  41. understudy
    understudy 23 March 2013 11: 55 New
    +2
    Personally, I would withdraw from the show the domestic series "Sea Devils. Tornado." with the participation of "girl" Moore. It is difficult to imagine a greater profanity of the activities of the special services and simply idiocy in the implementation of combat work.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 24 March 2013 14: 24 New
      +4
      Thanks ... Supported ...
      Unfortunately, such a girl minus my opinion.
  42. rodevaan
    rodevaan 23 March 2013 12: 02 New
    0
    Patriotism is not only a family upbringing, but also a state first of all!
    The state and the Ministry of Culture are OBLIGED, if it wants to develop and educate the population correctly, to show and sponsor the production of films that will involuntarily cause pride in our country and our army. Show and emphasize our achievements and victories. Show the greatness of the people and the heroic story.
    And in no case should it show the army and the people that cause contempt, pity or vulgarity. In doing so, they only decompose the consciousness of people and they themselves inspire people with an aversion to their army, to their history, to their country and to themselves. Thus doing their dirty work for the enemies.
    1. Explore
      23 March 2013 14: 07 New
      0
      Yeah. So the patriotic filmman "US-2" began to PR. And they obliged schoolchildren of Moscow and the Far East to go to him ... See, so to speak. Both Volodya Medinsky supported Nikita and Volodya Putin.

      Patriotism first of all needs to be brought up in the family, and only in the second - to entrust to the state. If only because our state does not need patriotism, but a loyal electorate. The rest is for PR.
  43. Mikado
    Mikado 23 March 2013 12: 02 New
    0
    "Yes, and of the Russians there showed only one paratrooper"

    If suddenly the author forgot what the uniform of the Russian military looks like and remembers only one blue beret, in the same episode the Russian generals and colonel were shown seconds earlier.
    1. Explore
      23 March 2013 14: 10 New
      0
      Rather did not pay attention. The paratrooper was especially singled out in the film, and those were only shown in the crowd.
      Well, sir. Inattentive I.
  44. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 23 March 2013 12: 16 New
    +1
    .... filter by sifting out all sorts of rubbish. and Russophobia.
    And the main question about television. When these stupid ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show.dom-2 and another cosmopolitan ideological POISON developed in the Zionist centers of the United States and the CIA are finally closed. Especially dangerous for our youth.


    This will happen only when the enemies of Russia, the traitors who fulfill the ORDER, are removed from the government, and when all the “advisers” sent from the USA to the “help” of Russia, who turn out to be during the time of Yeltsin, were sent in number of 1200 people, of whom (according to REN TV) there were 20 CIA agents who controlled both privatization and defense, the educational and cultural spheres, in short, they “worked” in all sectors ... Until they get CORRECTED from there, our children will watch DURDOM-2 and still have to pay amekikos!
    1. rodevaan
      rodevaan 23 March 2013 12: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: ia-ai00
      .... filter by sifting out all sorts of rubbish. and Russophobia.
      And the main question about television. When these stupid ((purchased from amers licenses)) Tok.Show.dom-2 and another cosmopolitan ideological POISON developed in the Zionist centers of the United States and the CIA are finally closed. Especially dangerous for our youth.


      This will happen only when the enemies of Russia, the traitors who fulfill the ORDER, are removed from the government, and when all the “advisers” sent from the USA to the “help” of Russia, who turn out to be during the time of Yeltsin, were sent in number of 1200 people, of whom (according to REN TV) there were 20 CIA agents who controlled both privatization and defense, the educational and cultural spheres, in short, they “worked” in all sectors ... Until they get CORRECTED from there, our children will watch DURDOM-2 and still have to pay amekikos!


      - Absolutely correct! Until we clear our own yard of all our own and foreign trash and evil spirits, we will not have a normal life and normal development here.
  45. Bronis
    Bronis 23 March 2013 12: 19 New
    +4
    Why, in fact, did a systemic crisis happen in our culture? The answer is simple and complex at the same time - the collapse of a superpower. It was caused by several factors. Often called economic - they say, in the balance of the gun / oil mixed up. Yes, there were problems in the economy, but they were not decisive. The USSR also experienced deeper upheavals. The problem is different. In the minds (I do not want to say - minds - a lot of honor) a significant part of the political elite of the 80's was defeated by the Western cult of consumption. They had huge resources in their hands, but they could not own them legally. The only way to get all this into our own hands is to destroy the state and pull our pieces of the “pie” along the cracks. Which they did. And they did it in a purely political way. In other words, the leaders of the late Union became the vehicles of Western ideology. In 90, everything was aggravated and reached incredible sizes. The crisis of the 80's seemed to people a trifle against the backdrop of the 90's. But the "democrats" had to say that "it became better" otherwise how to legitimize themselves? Everything is simple! I must say that before it was even worse! Hence the "billion personally shot by Stalin", the "aggressive USSR", whose main goal was the destruction of its own population and of all mankind ... well, the West was only a lie - he not only was left without a worthy opponent in the person of the USSR, but he was also able to culturally "crush" your enemy. And this will be a terrible occupation.
    Modern domestic mass "culture" - tracing paper Western. Especially under this skating rink were those born at the very end of the 80's and later. They did not see another and do not know ...
    Now they are only shooting what is sold by popcorn: for "neighing", for "scaring", for "funny explosions to see." Thinking is difficult and once. Therefore, the plot should be simplified - there are good ones, there are bad ones. Well, in order to "highlight" we will make ourselves bad. More precisely, they will do us - those who do this, even if our fellow citizens, but no longer compatriots.
    In the West, most people think in black / white. But the "good" are always them. Well done! Well, the fact that North Korea captured the United States is for popcorn (one must surprise the plot with fragile brains) and for feeling one's own right - what kind of Koreans are evil, and also Russians behind them. You need to think in a pattern ...
  46. O_RUS
    O_RUS 23 March 2013 12: 31 New
    0
    Quote: vladsolo56
    ask today's 15 year olds who Bodrov is and who saw the film Brother and Brother 2. I doubt that there will be many.


    ... there are university students who do not know what happened in 1941
    1. Explore
      23 March 2013 14: 12 New
      0
      Do not judge by individual representatives. Such representatives have always been. And in Soviet times, too.
      Some do not know the parents' birthday and cannot remember their phone number. And you about the story ...
  47. arkgrz
    arkgrz 23 March 2013 12: 34 New
    0
    Yes, and we have enough stupidity .. we are from the future, for example. Well, the fantasy is understandable .. but when these stupid people like rap at the bonfire at the front start banging and like type soldiers .. damn the ears wilt .. look disgusting. directors should have a little mosh
  48. leon-iv
    leon-iv 23 March 2013 12: 38 New
    0
    The most suitable in the article is a video review from the bad comedian.
    But in fact, I do not agree what to ban foreign films. Just censorship needed
    1. rereture
      rereture 23 March 2013 12: 40 New
      0
      And the most interesting thing is most of all his reviews on Russian films, which proves that our film industry is in a deplorable state.
  49. Strashila
    Strashila 23 March 2013 12: 52 New
    +2
    1. The President and the US government think only about the US state and that they do not do is directed only for the good of the United States ...
    2. The USA has no allies, there are only accomplices for a specific robbery, the rest are enemies.
    3. The media is the same part of the US defense structure as the Army and Navy.
    4. The media is equivalent in efficiency to the neutron bomb, the brain melts ... and material values ​​remain untouched.
    5. Any means of influencing the minds of its citizens through the media are good against the enemy, the more offensive (the enemy) is, the more pleasant it is for the United States
    6. The enemy himself pays for the actions of the media on his territory, and even with a good margin, which is even more pleasant for the United States.

    All this must be understood by our rulers.
  50. cumastra1
    cumastra1 23 March 2013 12: 53 New
    0
    They simply educate their younger generation with the idea that the main enemy is Russia. That’s all, but the means are not important.