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L.Mlechin: “The cause of the Middle East conflict is not“ occupied territories ”, but the envy of the Arabs to Israel”

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L.Mlechin: “The cause of the Middle East conflict is not“ occupied territories ”, but the envy of the Arabs to Israel”In the evening of March 11, as part of a ten-day visit to Israel, well-known writer and filmmaker Leonid Mlechin met with residents of Ashkelon.


In the course of the creative evening, the participants of which were about 400 people, the premiere of the new documentary film Mlechin about the latest stories Middle East, which bears the working title "Trap for Andropov."

The film is dedicated to little-known facts of direct intervention by the leadership of the USSR in the Middle East conflict in 1983, when it was not only about massive deliveries weapons the regime of Hafez al-Assad, involved in the bloody events in Lebanon, but also about the transfer of servicemen of the Soviet army to our region.

According to the data that Leonid Mlechin was able to gather, several thousand Soviet soldiers and officers fought on the side of the Syrian army, which helped Palestinian terrorists fight the IDF. Thirteen of them died, more than 200 were injured, many of them were disabled.

At a certain stage, according to Leonid Mlechin, the Kremlin leadership was seriously discussing the option of bombarding an Israeli nuclear reactor in Dimona. However, the fear of open confrontation with the United States and the reluctance to repeat the situation of the Caribbean crisis of forty years ago still forced Andropov and his entourage to “press the brakes”.

The film details the history of Soviet-Syrian relations and the peculiarities of Assad’s diplomatic contacts with Kremlin leaders.

“Hafez Asad never left Moscow empty-handed, getting off with only vague promises - for example, about providing the Syrian territory with a naval base on the Mediterranean coast.

Kremlin leaders, as a rule, met him halfway and once agreed to supply arms to Syria in the amount of about a billion rubles (recall that the official dollar / ruble exchange rate was then in favor of the ruble). And only when it became clear that Assad wants to fight with Israel, using not only Soviet weapons, but also Soviet soldiers, did a certain cooling of relations between Moscow and Damascus begin, ”noted Leonid Mlechin.

Referring to the background of the Arab-Israeli conflict as a whole, Leonid Mlechin said that our enemies are driven, above all, by a feeling of envy and restrained pride, and not at all by the desire to liberate any "occupied territories" because they have more than enough land .

“The Arabs do not understand why it is lagging behind in economic and social development. After all, they have everything - giant territories, huge reserves of oil, gas and other minerals.

But for some reason Israel is flourishing, and they are lagging behind. The Arab leaders do not have the courage to admit that the main problem is the inefficiency of the totalitarian leadership of these countries, the aimless squandering of billions of petrodollars.

And in this sense, Israel for them is just an invaluable find, so it can be pointed out as the main cause of all the disasters of the "Palestinian" and other peoples of the Middle East.

True, popular discontent in Arab countries still accumulates and, sooner or later, erupts outside, for example, in the form of the "Arab spring". And the intrigues of foreign imperialism, as we are sometimes assured, have nothing to do with it, "said Leonid Mlechin.
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  1. Rustiger
    Rustiger 23 March 2013 11: 30 New
    33
    For example.
    If someone lodges in my apartment (puts a chair in the hallway) to some wretched engraftment, he’ll give me a “nuclear whip”, and then this “engulfer” will drive my relatives out of the room and start to scare me that it will take the whole apartment. Then I'll start to envy him laughing

    And Mlechin will “comment” in favor of this “subject of envy,” the only thing I will do is turn my back on such a relationship specialist.
    Well, children's complexes in his mind surfaced. . . fool
    1. Dilshat
      Dilshat 23 March 2013 16: 08 New
      27
      A graduate of Moscow State University saying such things, one-sidedly is simply an agent of influence.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 17: 00 New
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        Quote: Dilshat
        A graduate of Moscow State University saying such things, one-sidedly is simply an agent of influence.

        This old smelly historian together with the same historian Svanidze from the beginning of the nineties and still bear such rubbish on Russia that it became clear to me a long time ago; that they are both in custody by the kagal and the State Department.
        1. Firstvanguard
          Firstvanguard 23 March 2013 20: 17 New
          15
          Agent of influence, he is on the other side of the ocean. Here he is the enemy of the people and his place near the wall. Together with Svanidze and other Radzinsky.
          1. Akhtuba73
            Akhtuba73 23 March 2013 20: 49 New
            +2
            They transmitted it now - B. Berezovsky died ... Uuuuh! Interesting: himself or who helped? With the second version of our Cheka, a low bow! hi Ice ax, polonium ... what now?
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 23 March 2013 20: 56 New
              +9
              Quote: Akhtuba73
              They transmitted it now - B. Berezovsky died ..

              Alexander, it died somehow in a Christian way, and tv @ pb could only KEEP.
              1. Akhtuba73
                Akhtuba73 23 March 2013 21: 22 New
                +2
                Guilty, comrade Tersky.
                Dead, so dead, really yours. Keep quiet ... because I don’t want to say anything good about him
                1. TUMAN
                  TUMAN 23 March 2013 21: 32 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Akhtuba73
                  Dead, so dead, really yours. Keep quiet ... because I don’t want to say anything good about him

                  And I have a holiday, he did not deserve a moment of silence, it was too much on this Zionist, Slavic blood!
                  1. Akhtuba73
                    Akhtuba73 23 March 2013 21: 54 New
                    +1
                    TUMAN
                    Tomorrow is Sunday, a day off ... you can, and in a little way drinks
                    1. TUMAN
                      TUMAN 23 March 2013 22: 00 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Akhtuba73
                      Tomorrow is Sunday, a day off ... you can, and in a little way

                      That's right, it should be noted! drinks
                    2. bask
                      bask 23 March 2013 22: 03 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Akhtuba73
                      tra sunday, day off ... possible and in a little way

                      WHAT IS LITTLE.
                      I’ve already taken 100 grams to the skate on the chest. Well ... the boys will tinkle and tavern.
                      One good news for the new 13 year !!!
                      1. Akhtuba73
                        Akhtuba73 23 March 2013 22: 16 New
                        +4
                        Quote: bask
                        13 year

                        After all, don’t believe in superstition after that, Boris Abramovich ...
                        There is no reason not to drink ... Who are we waiting for next on the list for a drink?
                      2. edge
                        edge 24 March 2013 18: 03 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Akhtuba73
                        . Who are we waiting for next on the list for DRINKING?
                        I dare to propose Abramovich. hi
                2. GG2012
                  GG2012 23 March 2013 22: 41 New
                  15
                  Quote: TUMAN
                  And I have a holiday, he did not deserve a moment of silence, it was too much on this Zionist, Slavic blood!
              2. Норд
                Норд 23 March 2013 21: 41 New
                +7
                How simply and intelligibly, the writer explained the cause of the Middle East conflict as much as a tear of tenderness kicks. Well, these minstrels of the Great Israel completely lost their fear (they had no shame from spawn). For whose money she sings songs about the “trap for Andropov” I do not ask, obviously the grandmother’s inheritance did not regret the penny. True, judging by the number of "no" on the splash screen, the song obviously does not pull on the hit ...
            2. bask
              bask 23 March 2013 21: 44 New
              +5
              Quote: Tersky
              it died like that in a Christian way, and tv @ pb could only DYE.

              URRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!
              The dog died !!!!!!!, The dog, the death of a dog.
              Now the COLUMN ASpen in the grave and gut !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            3. Kaa
              Kaa 23 March 2013 22: 00 New
              +1
              Quote: Tersky
              tv @ pb could only KEEP.

              A piquant question - where and from what?
              " According to Channel One, citing its sources in the UK, where a runaway oligarch lived in recent years, Berezovsky died in Israel. According to the source, in recent days Berezovsky suffered several heart attacks, so the version that the businessman died of a heart attack looks completely believable.
              Meanwhile The Daily Telegraph reports that Berezovsky’s body was discovered at his estate in Surrey at about 11 am London time.
              Earlier on the death of Boris Berezovsky, his brother-in-law Yegor Schuppe wrote on Facebook, later information appeared that it was a suicide.
              “They just called from London. Boris Abramovich Berezovsky committed suicide ... Was the person difficult. A gesture of despair? Inability to live poor? A series of punches? I’m afraid that no one will know the truth ... ", lawyer Alexander Dobrovinsky wrote on Facebook.
              Among the causes of death of the oligarch is called, in particular, the Cyprus crisis.
              Wikipedia has already entered March 23, 2013, as the date of Berezovsky’s death.
              Recently, Boris Berezovsky experienced serious financial difficulties that the former Russian oligarch began after a lost court, Roman Abramovich. Due to a lack of money to pay for legal costs and attorneys' services, Berezovsky had to sell several of his mansions, as well as abandon an office in a prestigious area of ​​London and dismiss a part of the staff. In addition, Berezovsky put up for sale his own painting “And the Red Lenin” by Andy Warhol, for which he helped out almost four times as much as he expected - 202 thousand dollars. Also, the ex-oligarch put up for auction the classic 1927 Rolls-Royce model. http://piter.tv/event/Po_nekotorim_dannim_Bere/
              1. bord731
                bord731 24 March 2013 00: 33 New
                +1
                Interesting - where they decide to bury? I think, after all that he has done - he is not worthy of the Russian land ... Cremate, and dispel the ashes over the Thames ...
          2. Botanologist
            Botanologist 23 March 2013 23: 02 New
            +2
            Ice ax, polonium ... what now?

            Bankruptcy. Take away from such characters money and they will die. And from what - these are the details. They just won’t be able to breathe ...
            1. sleepy
              sleepy 24 March 2013 23: 40 New
              0
              Quote: Botanologist
              "Bankruptcy. Take away from such characters money - and they will die ...
              They just won’t be able to breathe ... "


              Great epitaph.
          3. scrack
            scrack 23 March 2013 23: 48 New
            0
            They said that a heart attack
          4. edge
            edge 24 March 2013 18: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Akhtuba73
            They transmitted it now - B. Berezovsky died ... Uuuuh!
            .....
            Today, to celebrate, I took a couple of piles, and there he is dear.
      2. Genur
        Genur 23 March 2013 21: 37 New
        +1
        What do you want from a Jew?
        1. Bear52
          Bear52 24 March 2013 10: 13 New
          +1
          Genur

          What do you want from a Jew?
          What’s the answer to the eternal question: “Who WORKS with you !!! ?? SPEAK TO WHO !!! ???” (C) angry bully
        2. edge
          edge 24 March 2013 18: 07 New
          +1
          a poor Jew, this is nonsense. But in ...... Wednesday, moviton.
      3. scrack
        scrack 23 March 2013 23: 47 New
        0
        Such must be treated
      4. aksakal
        aksakal 24 March 2013 17: 10 New
        0
        Quote: cherkas.oe
        This old smelly historian together with the same historian Svanidze from the beginning of the nineties and still bear such rubbish on Russia that it became clear to me a long time ago; that they are both in custody by the kagal and the State Department.
        - I couldn’t understand the expression: “to be a Jew more than the Jews themselves!”, according to Mlechin I see - it is possible!
      5. valokordin
        valokordin 24 March 2013 19: 32 New
        0
        Quote: cherkas.oe
        This old smelly historian together with the same historian Svanidze from the beginning of the nineties and still bear such rubbish on Russia that it became clear to me a long time ago; that they are both in custody by the kagal and the State Department.

        Why is this reasonably competent Russophobe and White Guard put on the site? I don’t understand
    2. aleks
      aleks 24 March 2013 11: 59 New
      +2
      This writing guy, however, is smelly, as, indeed, are his associates.
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 23 March 2013 21: 32 New
    +3
    “Just called from London. Boris Abramovich Berezovsky committed suicide ... Was there a difficult person. Gesture of despair? Inability to live poor? A series of blows? I'm afraid no one will know the truth,” the lawyer Alexander Dobrovinsky responded to the news.
    1. hrych
      hrych 23 March 2013 23: 03 New
      +4
      Died of greed.
      1. sleepy
        sleepy 23 March 2013 23: 23 New
        +1
        You can’t believe that you committed suicide, you can look for who benefits.

        "... The source of Interfax noted that the official confirmation of information about the death of Berezovsky
        may cause termination of criminal cases against him with the wording "in connection with the death of a person,
        to be held accountable. "

        http://www.newsru.com/world/23mar2013/berezovsky.html
        "... in the event of termination of the criminal prosecution of a businessman, most likely
        the arrest previously imposed as part of the proceedings will be lifted from various property of the businessman ... ".
        So there is money, but who will get it if the arrest is lifted?
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 24 March 2013 01: 21 New
          +2
          Quote: sleepy
          who benefits from this.

          Son-in-law !!!! So that at least something went while the dear (in all senses) father-in-law did not snarl on the courts.
          Threat. And the Russian Federation can not present an invoice for illegally exported denyuzhki?
          1. hrych
            hrych 24 March 2013 01: 28 New
            +4
            I’m afraid that the son-in-law will get several hundred million debt for marriage and property in half and debts in half, unless otherwise specified by the marriage contract. If the accounts are frozen at the suit of the wife, it does not mean that she will receive them, the fool did not take into account that he had died and the creditors would break the chain now.
          2. Kaa
            Kaa 24 March 2013 02: 28 New
            +3
            Quote: Egoza
            And the Russian Federation can not present an invoice for illegally exported denyuzhki?

            Quote: sleepy
            So there is money, but who will get it if the arrest is lifted?
            “He was on the international wanted list at the request of Russia, where 13 criminal cases were brought against him and he was already sentenced in absentia to 13 years in prison. Despite the death of the oligarch, Russian law enforcement agencies intend to seize his assets around the world in order to recover the damage caused by him damage of 3 billion rubles.
            At the same time, representatives of the UK said that the termination of criminal cases against Boris Berezovsky is possible if official confirmation of his death is received. This was announced by the official representative of the UK IC Vladimir Markin. So far, the Investigative Committee has not received confirmation of information about the death of the oligarch. Most likely, they will continue the collection process and the bailiffs. In the fall, the Federal Bailiff Service (FSSP) in Moscow announced the arrest of Berezovsky’s remaining accounts in Russia, following lawsuits by the government of the Samara Region and Aeroflot for more than 3,3 billion rubles. True, the amount that was collected by the bailiffs was not reported. Then the efforts of the bailiffs were not enough and the government of the Samara region announced a competition among law firms that would help return Berezovsky’s money (or assets) in England and other European countries. The winner of the tender was the British law firm Pinsent Masons. In total, Berezovsky is charged with damages of 3 billion rubles. The FSB, SKR and the Prosecutor General’s Office recently searched around the world for his assets in order to seize them. For example, the total value of property arrested in France, owned by Boris Berezovsky, is about 13 million euros. In December 2012, Andrei Lugovoi, Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption, proposed depriving Berezovsky of his assets in Russia and other countries. According to the deputy, the heirs of the deceased partner of Berezovsky Badri Patarkatsishvili are also related to these assets. In a request to the Prosecutor General’s Office, Lugovoi said that some Russian companies are negotiating with the Patarkatsishvili family to purchase the Salford fund, which owns Russian assets. According to Lugovoi, in the case of the sale of the company, Berezovsky should have received about $ 250 million. Http://news.rambler.ru/18236532/
            1. hrych
              hrych 24 March 2013 02: 34 New
              +7
              What kind of mysticism in our statistics: 13 criminal cases, 13 years in absentia, 13 million arrested in France, and the 13th year of his death on the obelisk.
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 24 March 2013 02: 47 New
                +4
                Quote: hrych
                What kind of mysticism in our statistics:

                Duck, he’s “God chosen”, for him it’s a sacred number ... someone finally decided to please the deceased ... until the 14th case was opened ... "In December last year, another pre-investigation began against Berezovsky in Russia The reason for her was the documentary film "Berezovsky", shown on the TV channel "Russia-1". The Prosecutor General of Russia Yuri Chaika instructed to send materials from the film about Boris Berezovsky to the Investigative Committee for a preliminary investigation. The revelation film against Berezovsky is based on versions told by former high-ranking security officials. For example, according to the former head of the security service of the ex-president of Russia Boris Yeltsin, Alexander Korzhakov, Berezovsky ordered the poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko, allegedly so as not to spend money on the maintenance of his family. According to Korzhakov, the oligarch also turned to him with requests for the assassination of the then Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov, singer Joseph Kobzon, businessman Vladimir Gusinsky. In the same film, the ex-co-chair of Liberal Russia, Mikhail Kodanev, convicted of the murder of State Duma deputy Sergei Yushenkov, directly points to Berezovsky and his former partner Badri Patarkatsishvili as customers for the crime and asks the Prosecutor General's Office and the Investigative Committee to schedule an inspection. Former head of the Security Service of Ukraine Igor Smeshko said in the film that Berezovsky was behind the story of the abduction of presidential candidate Ivan Rybkin in the 2004 elections and also planned to kill him. http://news.rambler.ru/18236532/
                Now - the ends in the water ... that's the whole Mystic, from MI-6.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 24 March 2013 03: 01 New
                  +3
                  Yes, I remember Rybkin sailed from the nets ...
      2. Kaa
        Kaa 24 March 2013 02: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: hrych
        Died of greed.

        Quote: Egoza
        And the Russian Federation can not present an invoice for illegally exported denyuzhki?

        Rather, he died "from generosity." Compare two independent events - checks of NGOs in Russia (and the birch was clearly shining there) and death in Israel, or in Sussex, or from a heart attack, or from suicide, or from bankruptcy, or there was still money ... "The Russian authorities should stop illegal checks of non-profit organizations, and international structures should pay attention to the current situation, believes General Secretary of the Norwegian Helsinki Committee Björn Engesland. Statements in support of Russian non-profit organizations made Amnesty International, Frontline Defenders, Human Rights Watch, as well as the German Foreign Ministry, the US Embassy in Russia, the EU Commissioner for Internal Affairs.
        Checks of non-profit organizations (NPOs) are carried out in 13 regions of Russia
        . Earlier, inspections of regulatory and law enforcement agencies were reported by representatives of public organizations in the Rostov, Volgograd regions and the Krasnodar Territory. In the Kuban, a representative of the regional prosecutor’s office said that the checks were organized on behalf of the prosecutor general’s office in connection with changes in the current legislation, including non-profit organizations funded from foreign sources. However, the Prosecutor General’s Office said that inspections of non-profit organizations are planned.
        The European Commission condemned the campaign of mass inspections of Russian NPOs. EU Commissioner for Home Affairs Cecilia Malmström noted that the Russian authorities are campaigning against NGOs "on an unclear legal basis."
        Malmstrom called for an end to these “oppressions,” so that NGOs in Russia can “work freely,” Deutsche welle reports.
        Concern over the inspections of non-profit organizations in Russia was also expressed by the German Foreign Ministry.
        Representatives of the US Embassy in Moscow also expressed their concern about the mass inspections of NPOs.
        Over the past two weeks, controllers from a number of government agencies have audited at least 30 NGOs in Moscow alone, according to a joint statement released by the international human rights organizations on March 22. Amnesty International, Frontline Defenders and Human Rights Watch.
        Human rights activists fear that the launched campaign of mass inspections will lead to the closure of many NGOs, according to the official website of Amnesty International. http://www.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/221864/
        The checks will obviously lead to a source of money, and given the many years of fruitful activity of Plato Elenin on this noble field, it seems that I had to hide the ends in the water, and the sponsor, who obviously knows a lot, should be sent to Abraham or far away. Such paranoia comes out at night ... belay
        1. hrych
          hrych 24 March 2013 02: 16 New
          +4
          Of course, worthy of wheeling on the frontal place of Red Square. And so in the bathroom quietly rested in his shit, an old, disappointed, poor Jew.
  3. densyaophyng
    densyaophyng 23 March 2013 23: 51 New
    +7

    Putin help a lot
  4. Pu239
    Pu239 24 March 2013 02: 34 New
    +6
    Something like ...
  5. Beck
    Beck 24 March 2013 15: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Rustiger
    If someone lodges in my apartment (puts a chair in the hallway) to some wretched henchman, he’ll give me a “nuclear whip”, and then this “henchman” will drive my relatives out of the room and start to scare me that it’ll even take the whole apartment.


    Speak correctly. It remains only to see who first started. The UN singled out both this and the other. And who began to seize in their favor in 1948, and in 1967, and in 1973? Who began to put his chair and not even in the hallway, but wanted to take himself the whole apartment?
  • Roman 75
    Roman 75 23 March 2013 11: 53 New
    -36
    Quote: Rustiger
    For example.
    If someone lodges in my apartment (puts a chair in the hallway) to some wretched engraftment, he’ll give me a “nuclear whip”, and then this “engulfer” will drive my relatives out of the room and start to scare me that it will take the whole apartment. Then I'll start to envy him laughing

    And Mlechin will “comment” in favor of this “subject of envy,” the only thing I will do is turn my back on such a relationship specialist.
    Well, children's complexes in his mind surfaced. . . fool


    In fact, it was the Arabs who “settled” on the lands that belonged to the Jews from ancient times. This time.
    When did the Israelis scare the Arabs by “occupying the whole apartment”? Why the hell to the Jews the entire area of ​​resettlement of Arabs? These are two.
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 March 2013 12: 19 New
      10
      Quote: Roman-75

      In fact, it was the Arabs who “settled” on the lands that belonged to the Jews from ancient times. This time.
      And these are two -. 1947, in your opinion, deep antiquity? belay True, the first settlers appeared a little earlier.
      1. Imperial
        Imperial 23 March 2013 15: 54 New
        +6
        True, the first settlers appeared a little earlier. And the "honey" Isus Navin, these settlers cut out at the root. And supposedly he was not at work, they say so dear bequeathed to God)))
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 23 March 2013 16: 53 New
        13
        And here’s three for you, I think it’s no secret that the US is openly financing Israel and this is not only about Israel’s missile defense system. But for some reason, Israel is thriving, but they are lagging behind. That is why they thrive, that they live partly at the expense of others. They fight the same way, and serve the same way, mostly former citizens of the USSR, and peysaty and other Jewish Jews are not supposed to serve.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 23 March 2013 16: 58 New
          -9
          Quote: Sirocco
          And here’s three for you, I think it’s no secret that the US is openly financing Israel and this is not only about Israel’s missile defense system. But for some reason, Israel is thriving, but they are lagging behind. That is why they thrive, that they live partly at the expense of others. They fight the same way, and serve the same way, mostly former citizens of the USSR, and peysaty and other Jewish Jews are not supposed to serve.

          Well, let the US really provide significant military assistance to Israel, so what? Didn’t not only the USSR, but also today's Russia provide assistance to their allies? Or do the armed forces of Abkhazia or Tajikistan not receive similar assistance from Russia?
          1. wax
            wax 23 March 2013 21: 19 New
            +1
            In the garden of elderberry, in Kiev, uncle. Are sophistry abilities inherited or acquired?
            "American security support to Israel is unprecedented, and the union of our countries has never been stronger ... As part of our long-term commitment to Israeli security, the Prime Minister and I agreed to start consultations on extending military assistance to Israel. Our current arrangements are limited to 2017, and we have instructed our teams to begin work on extending them for the next years, "Obama said.
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 23 March 2013 20: 37 New
          +4
          Germany still pays a huge tribute.
      3. opkozak
        opkozak 23 March 2013 19: 40 New
        +6
        I just talked with my parents and recalled that at the Yalta conference there was a dilemma where to put the Jews.
        - Hitler started, we need to finish the problem. - Stalin proposed Crimea - Soviet Jews themselves ask - after all, the southern people.
        Churchill answered - we will give Palestine - this is their homeland - their native land. Stalin - thought and said - a woman with a cart is easier for the horses - let there be Palestine.
        And, about the Arabs - neither Churchill nor Stalin knew. Who are the Bedouins? Do you ride camels?
        If it weren’t for oil and the conspiracy of oil producers, you all would know nothing about the Arabs, and you would drive cars with hydrogen or gas engines. And Saudi Arabia is still the largest exporter of barley - for 1 citizen of SA - 10 camels. It sits on Maserati or Lamborghini, reaches the desert. Farther on a camel and in your own quarry in a tent spend the night. Wahhabis all the same.
        By the way, do not believe me, ask those who served in Chechnya. Without panties, it means Wahhabi.
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 24 March 2013 09: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: opkozak
          I just talked with my parents and recalled that at the Yalta conference there was a dilemma where to put the Jews.
          - Hitler started, we need to finish the problem. - Stalin proposed Crimea - Soviet Jews themselves ask - after all, the southern people.
          Churchill answered - we will give Palestine - this is their homeland - their native land. Stalin - thought and said - a woman with a cart is easier for the horses - let there be Palestine.
          And, about the Arabs - neither Churchill nor Stalin knew.


          The harsh winter of the beginning of 1947 was accompanied in England by the most serious fuel crisis in the history of the country. Industry almost stopped, the British were desperately cold. The British government, as never before, wished for good relations with Arab oil exporting countries. On February 14, Foreign Minister Bevin announced London’s decision to transfer the mandate of Palestine to the UN because British peace proposals were rejected by both Arabs and Jews. It was a gesture of despair.
          On March 6, 1947, the adviser to the USSR Foreign Ministry, Boris Stein, handed over to the First Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Vyshinsky a note on the Palestinian question:
          “To date, the USSR has not formulated its position on the question of Palestine. The UK transfer of the question of Palestine to the discussion of the United Nations presents an opportunity for the USSR for the first time not only to express its point of view on the question of Palestine, but also to take an effective part in the fate of Palestine. The Soviet Union cannot but support the demands of the Jews to create their own state in Palestine».

          Vyacheslav Molotov, and then Joseph Stalin agreed. On May 14, Andrei Gromyko, Permanent Representative of the USSR to the UN, voiced his Soviet position. At the special session of the General Assembly, he, in particular, said:
          “The Jewish people suffered extreme disasters and suffering in the last war. In the territory dominated by the Nazis, Jews underwent almost complete physical extermination - about six million people died. The fact that not a single Western European state was able to protect the elementary rights of the Jewish people and protect it from violence by fascist executioners explains the desire of the Jews to create their own state. It would be unfair to disregard this and deny the right of the Jewish people to fulfill such an aspiration».

          “Since Stalin was determined to give his state to the Jews, it would be foolish to resist the United States!”
          - concluded US President Harry Truman and instructed the "anti-Semitic" State Department to support the "Stalin initiative" in the UN.
          In November 1947, it adopted resolution No. 181 (2) on the establishment in the territory of Palestine of two independent states: Jewish and Arab. immediately after the withdrawal of British troops (May 14, 1948), on the day the resolution was adopted, hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Jews, distraught with happiness, took to the streets. When the UN made the decision, Stalin smoked a pipe for a long time, and then said: [i] “Everything, now there will be no peace here”. [/i] “Here” is in the Middle East.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 24 March 2013 09: 45 New
            +3
            Arab countries did not make a UN decision. They were incredibly outraged by the Soviet position. The Arab Communist Parties, which are accustomed to fighting against “Zionism - the agents of British and American imperialism”, simply became confused, seeing that the Soviet position had changed beyond recognition.
            But Stalin was not interested in the reaction of the Arab countries and local communist parties. He was much more important to consolidate, in defiance of the British, the diplomatic success and, if possible, to add the future Jewish state in Palestine to the world socialism camp being created.
            For this, a government was prepared in the USSR "for the Jews of Palestine." Solomon Lozovsky, a member of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, a former deputy people's commissar for foreign affairs, and the director of the Sovinformburo should become the prime minister of the new state. Twice Hero of the Soviet Union tanker David Dragunsky was approved as Minister of Defense, Grigory Gilman, senior intelligence officer of the USSR Navy, became the naval minister. But eventually a government was created from an international Jewish agency led by its chairman Ben-Gurion (native of Russia); and the "Stalinist government" dismissed, ready to fly to Palestine.
            The adoption of the resolution on the partition of Palestine served as a signal for the beginning of the Arab-Jewish armed conflict, which lasted until mid-May 1948 and was a kind of prelude to the first Arab-Israeli war, which was called the “War of Independence” in Israel.
            The Americans imposed an embargo on the supply of weapons to the region, the British continued to arm their Arab satellites, the Jews were left with nothing: their partisan detachments could only defend themselves with improvised guns and rifles and grenades stolen from the British. In the meantime, it became clear that the Arab countries would not allow the UN decision to enter into force and would try to exterminate Palestinian Jews before the proclamation of a state. The Soviet envoy to Lebanon, Malt, after a conversation with the Prime Minister of this country, reported to Moscow that the head of the Lebanese government expressed the opinion of all Arab countries:
            "If necessary, the Arabs will fight for the preservation of Palestine for two hundred years, as was the case during the Crusades."

            Weapons poured into Palestine. The sending of "Islamic volunteers" has begun. The military leaders of the Palestinian Arabs Abdelkader al-Husseini and Fawzi al-Kavkaji (who recently served the Führer faithfully) launched a widespread attack on Jewish settlements. Their defenders retreated to coastal Tel Aviv. A little more, and the Jews will be "thrown into the sea." And, undoubtedly, this would have happened if not for the Soviet Union.
            Together with weapons from Eastern Europe, Jewish warriors who had experience of participating in the war against Germany arrived in Palestine. At the direction of Lorenius Beria, the best officers of the NKVD-MGB were seconded to Palestine (True, to be precise, the first Soviet “specialists” arrived in Palestine shortly after the October Revolution In the 1920s, on the personal instructions of Felix Dzerzhinsky, the first Jewish self-defense forces “Israel Sheikhet” were created by a resident of the Cheka Lukacher (operational nickname “Khozro”). According to the statement of State Security General Pavel Sudopl tova, "the use of Soviet intelligence officers in combat and sabotage operations against the British in Israel was already begun in 1946." They recruited agents among Jews leaving for Palestine (mainly from Poland). As a rule, these were Poles, as well as Soviet citizens who, taking advantage of family ties, and in some places falsified documents (including nationality), traveled through Poland and Romania to Palestine.The relevant authorities were well aware of these tricks, but received a directive to turn a blind eye to this .
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 24 March 2013 10: 00 New
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              At the end of 1947, the head of the Directorate for the Near and Far East Komiinform for Information, Andrey Otroshchenko convened an operational meeting at which he said that Stalin set the task: to guarantee the transition of the future Jewish state to the camp of the closest allies of the USSR. To do this, it is necessary to neutralize the ties of the population of Israel with American Jews. The selection of agents for this “mission” was assigned to Alexander Korotkov, who headed the illegal intelligence department at Komiinform.
              Pavel Sudoplatov wrote that he singled out for the secret operations three Jewish officers: Garbuza, Semenov and Kolesnikov. The first two settled in Haifa and created two agent networks, but did not take part in sabotage against the British. Kolesnikov was able to arrange for the delivery of small arms and faust attacks from Romania to Palestine.
              And while the UN was in disputes and behind-the-scenes negotiations on the fate of the Arab and Jewish states in Palestine, The USSR began at a shocking Stalinist pace to build a new Jewish state. They started with the main thing - with the army, intelligence, counterintelligence and police. And not on paper, but in practice.
              By order of Soviet officers, people from the required military specialties were identified among the settlers, delivered to bases, where they whipped up checks by the Soviet counterintelligence line, and then were urgently taken to ports where ships were unloaded secretly from the British. As a result, a full crew landed in the tanks that had just been delivered from the side to the pier and drove the military equipment to the place of permanent deployment or directly to the place of battle.
              Israeli special forces were created from scratch. Direct participation in the creation and training of commandos was taken by the best officers of the NKVD-MGB, ("Stalin's falcons" from the Berkut detachment, 101st intelligence school and Directorate "C" of General Sudoplatov)with experience in operational and sabotage work: Otroshchenko, Korotkov, Vertiporoh and dozens of others. In addition to them, two generals from the infantry and aviation, the vice admiral of the Navy, five colonels and eight lieutenant colonels, and, of course, junior officers for immediate field work, were urgently sent to Israel.
              Among the "younger" were mostly former soldiers and officers with the corresponding "fifth column" in the questionnaire, who expressed a desire to repatriate to their historic homeland. As a result, Captain Halperin (born in Vitebsk in 1912) became the founder and first head of the intelligence service Mossad, created the Shin Bet public safety and counterintelligence service. The history of Israel and its special services "honorary pensioner and faithful heir to Beria," the second man after Ben-Gurion, entered under the name of Iser Harel. Officer Smersh Livanov founded and directed the external intelligence of the Nativ Bar. He took the Jewish name Nehimia Levanon, under which he entered the history of Israeli intelligence. Captains Nikolsky, Zaitsev and Malevany "put" the work of the special forces of the Israel Defense Forces, two officers of the Navy (the names could not be established) created and trained the naval special forces unit. Theoretical training was regularly supported by practical exercises — raids on the rear areas of the Arab armies and sweeps from Arab villages.
              So, one Soviet agent infiltrated the Orthodox Jewish community, and he himself did not even know the basics of Judaism. When this was discovered, he was forced to admit that he was a regular security officer. Then the community council decided: to give a comrade a proper religious education. Moreover, the authority of the Soviet agent in the community has grown sharply: the USSR is a fraternal country, the settlers reasoned, what could be the secrets from it?
              It is not known for certain how many Soviet troops left for Palestine before and during the War of Independence. According to Israeli sources, 200 thousand Soviet Jews used legal or illegal channels. Of these, “several thousand” are military personnel. In any case, the main language of "interethnic communication" in the Israeli army was Russian. He occupied the second (after the Polish) place in all of Palestine.
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 24 March 2013 10: 09 New
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                The first Soviet resident in Israel in 1948 was Vladimir Vertiporoh, who was sent to work in this country under the pseudonym Rozhkov. Vertiporoh later admitted that he was traveling to Israel without much confidence in the success of his mission: firstly, he did not like the Jews, and secondly, the resident did not share the leadership’s confidence that Israel could be made a reliable ally of Moscow. Indeed, experience and intuition did not deceive the scout. Political accents changed dramatically after it became clear that the Israeli leadership had reoriented its country's policies toward close cooperation with the United States.

                Documents, figures and facts give a certain idea of ​​the role of the Soviet military component in the formation of the State of Israel. Nobody helped the Jews with arms and immigrant soldiers, except for the Soviet Union and the countries of Eastern Europe. Until now, one can often hear and read in Israel that the Jewish state survived the “Palestinian war” thanks to “volunteers” from the USSR and other socialist countries. In fact, Stalin did not give the “green light” to the voluntary impulses of Soviet youth. But he did everything so that within six months the mobilization capabilities of sparsely populated Israel could "digest" a huge amount of the delivered weapons. The young people of the “neighboring” states — Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, to a lesser extent Czechoslovakia and Poland — made up the draft contingent, which made it possible to create a fully equipped and well-armed IDF.

                Alas, the American Jews, behind which the powerful financial structures of their compatriots and influential Zionist organizations stood, defeated the Soviet Russian and East European Jews, whose hands created the state of Israel and whose blood paid for its independence. Subsequently, it seized power in that state and turned it into Zionist outpost of American imperialism
                1. Beck
                  Beck 24 March 2013 16: 36 New
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                  Quote: Ascetic
                  The first Soviet resident in Israel in 1948


                  Comments that cannot be refuted with a cry of cheers. You have links, dates, names.

                  Just add. In1948, Jews were proclaimed their state on the allotted lands of Palestine. Palestinian Arabs, too, could proclaim their own, on their allotted lands. But the Arabs in the person of the League of Arab countries wanted to themselves all the land, and drown the Jews in the sea. In 1948, Israel was attacked by the armies of SEVEN Arab states - Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia. But were broken. The same thing happened in 1967 and in 1973.

                  Soviet assistance to Israel in those years was determined by the ideology of building a socialist camp wherever possible. Along with Eastern Europe, these were also plans for creating socialism in northeastern Turkey (accession of these lands to the Armenian SSR) and in north = western Iran (accession of these lands to the Azerbaijan SSR).

                  After the efforts of the USSR to create socialism in Israel were unsuccessful, Stalin recouped on Soviet Jews. A campaign was launched against cosmopolitanism, that is, against Jewish intillegency, the Leningrad affair, the Doctors' Case, and in November 1048 the Jewish Anti-Fast Committee was dissolved.
                  1. Ascetic
                    Ascetic 24 March 2013 19: 06 New
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                    Quote: Beck
                    In1948, Jews were proclaimed their state on the allotted lands of Palestine. Palestinian Arabs, too, could proclaim their own, on their allotted lands. But the Arabs in the person of the League of Arab countries wanted to themselves all the land, and drown the Jews in the sea.


                    Until 1918, Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire, and the establishment of Jewish settlements in Palestine, funded by Zionist organizations, was extremely difficult. After the defeat of the central powers in the First World War and the collapse of two empires, the Austrian and Ottoman, there was the formation of a large number of new states, whose borders, often very randomly, were determined by the winning countries. Palestine remained simply a "territory", the mandate to manage which the newly created League of Nations transferred to Great Britain.
                    In this territory 1919 Muslim Arabs, 568 Christians and 000 Jews lived in 74. The British government, unlike the Turkish sultan, did not prohibit the immigration of Jewish settlers, but imposed tough a quota not exceeding 10 thousand people per year.
                    By February 1947, when a special commission on Palestine was created at the United Nations, 1 Muslim Arabs, 091 Jews and 000 Christians lived in the mandated territory.
                    Arabs strongly opposed the settlement of Palestine by Jews, and the entire period of the British mandate on this territory was saturated with conflicts between the Arab and Jewish populations
                    And here important point. Originally existed three projects establishing a Palestinian state(stress Palestinian !!)
                    The first project- british single multi-ethnic Palestinian state, the same as Lebanon in 1943 on the mandated territory of France, Please take into account NO ISRAEL, only multi-ethnic Palestine.
                    Second project. It can be called the project of the majority of UN members.
                    creation federal state like Yugoslavia or Switzerland. This project was difficult to implement, as the three main religious and ethnic groups in Palestine did not have sufficiently isolated territories and were mixed. Again, Israel was not a separate state.
                    Third project, which was supported primarily by the USA and the USSR, suggested the division of Palestine into two independent states - Palestinian and Jewish. And this project was implemented!
                    And now we come to the main thesis - also could, but did not create
                    1. Ascetic
                      Ascetic 24 March 2013 19: 36 New
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                      It was impossible to discuss the Palestine issue in the UN Security Council, as Great Britain had a veto in this case. The solution to the problem could only be achieved by voting at the plenary session of the UN General Assembly. A special commission on Palestine was created to prepare the draft for voting. This commission, which worked for several months, recommended for voting at the UN the very draft of the two states, which was supported, first of all, by the USA and the USSR. Great Britain and all Arab and Muslim countries were against it.
                      The Arab League was initially against the creation of a Jewish state, and did not suddenly decide to overthrow the Jews at sea. Therefore, the Arabs could not proclaim their state, because they voted against the UN resolution at all stages of the vote. As known On the day of the proclamation of Israel as an independent State, the regular armies of Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan invaded its territory.
                      LAS even before the adoption of the resolution refused to create an Arab state, for they are, as you say correctly could not come to terms with the existence of a Jewish state in their landswith which they considered Palestine. It is a fact. Everyone has their own truth And one-sided coverage of events is inappropriate here. This problem cannot be solved by political methods, as we see from the history of further events, therefore, Stalin was right a thousand times when he said that
                      Quote: Ascetic
                      “Everything, now there will be no peace here.” [/ I] “Here” is in the Middle East.

                      Therefore, it’s pointless to talk about someone’s rightness, because too many interests are tied here. It’s a Gordian knot that no one has yet managed to cut and is unlikely to succeed, because trying to do this will turn into a big war. Arabs and Jews are doomed to always fight and hate each other friend, even if they create a full-fledged Palestinian state. So it would be in 1947, so it will be in the future
                      1. Ascetic
                        Ascetic 24 March 2013 19: 55 New
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                        Now a little about the reasons for Stalin's support for the resolution on the creation of a Jewish separate state. Expansion of the social camp - there was a maximum program, something like a strategic goal to which you should strive. The immediate tactical task that Stalin solved was drive a wedge into US-UK relations and US-Arab relations. According to Sudoplatov, Stalin foresaw that the Arab countries would subsequently turn towards the Soviet Union, disappointed in the British and Americans because of their support for Israel. Molotov’s assistant Mikhail Vetrov told Sudoplatov the words of Stalin:
                        “Let's accept the formation of Israel. It will be like an awl in the ass for the Arab states and make them turn their backs on Britain. Ultimately, British influence will be completely undermined in Egypt, Syria, Turkey and Iraq. ”

                        Stalin's foreign policy forecast has largely justified itself. In the Arab and many other Muslim countries, the influence of not only Britain but also the USA was undermined.
                        Do not forget that at that time the "cold war" was already beginning to break into a nuclear war.
                        And so far, Israel is an "awl in the ass" for everyone, including the Americans, who are doomed to constantly maneuver in order to maintain their influence in the Muslim world.
                      2. sleepy
                        sleepy 25 March 2013 00: 09 New
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                        Quote: Beck
                        "After the efforts of the USSR to create socialism in Israel were unsuccessful,
                        Stalin recouped on Soviet Jews ...
                        ... in November 1948, the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee was dissolved. "


                        It seems that even some of this "Anti-Fascist Committee" was shot.
                        Only from the very beginning, this committee did not work for the USSR, but for the State Department.
                        During the Great Patriotic War, the goals on military issues of the USA and the USSR coincided -
                        against Germany as a united front.
                        After the war, the so-called "anti-fascist committee" continued to work for the State Department.
                        US plans for the post-war USSR are now well known, at least for the operation "Unthinkable ".

                        OPERATION "IMPOSSIBLE". SHOT IN THE BACK FROM "ALLIES".
                        "For there is nothing secret that would not become manifest, nor secret that would not become known
                        and it wouldn’t show up. "(Luke 8:17)
                        http://gusaram.narod.ru/apokalips_armageddon6.html

                        List of US military operations.
                        The author did not list the military operations carried out by the CIA in different countries, in Guatemala (1953), or in Iran (1953) when Mossadegh was dropped, or in Chile when Allende was dropped, etc.
                        http://www.usinfo.ru/operacii.htm

                        The so-called "anti-fascist committee" is not a poor sheep at all and I. Stalin did not win back
                        on poor Jews, and took measures to curb their activities against the socialist state.
                      3. Beck
                        Beck 25 March 2013 16: 51 New
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                        Quote: sleepy
                        The so-called "anti-fascist committee"


                        In my homegrown hypothesis. the Jewish intillegence of the USSR contributed in some way to the assistance of the USSR to Israel assuring the Kremlin that Israel would follow the socialist path. When this did not happen, the persecution of cosmopolitans began.

                        Quote: sleepy
                        US plans for the post-war USSR


                        And here is the root of my disagreement with the cheers-patriots. After the war, the USA and the West DO NOT fight precisely against the USSRthey fought against the spread of socialism and communist ideas.. And the Kremlin’s ideologues were the reason for the confrontation, the Cold War. We will destroy the whole world of violence, to the foundation ... Unite the proletarians of all countries. These words became the slogans of the imposition of socialism in Eastern Europe. When Stalin noted the holding of free and fair elections and through the pressure of military force, he planted socialism in the countries of Eastern Europe. Which led to the division of single countries into two. Germany and East Germany, South and North Korea. And since the slogan of the Communists was The whole world sooner or later, but we are socializing, and the West has fought against such a ringing.

                        And since the very ideas of communism were vicious, the entire world socialist system collapsed in 90 years. And before the collapse, the inefficiency of the socialist economic system was visible. Western Europe was ahead of Eastern Europe in its development. Germany was ahead of the GDR. South Korea was ahead of North Korea. And the USSR collapsed for the same reason and Russia was formed. And Russia, along with Eastern Europe, has embarked on the normal track of economic development.

                        The most slowly changing is the dogma of mentality. Those clichés that the communist propaganda has driven into us are slowly dying. We automatically continue to see in the West, USA political enemyalthough this is currently not the case. And they and we live in the same political, elective system, and not as before, we are in socialism, they are in capitalism. We are not political opponents now, but economic rivals, But this has been for centuries. And the priorities have changed. Now we must strive not to destroy, but to get ahead of the opponent in all areas of development. And the cheers-patriots, not realizing this, live old, wanting to destroy everything around them, which is not ours.

                        China has ceased to think so since 1980 and has now become the second power in the world. That's when in Russia there will be no fragments of the communist mentality, then Russia will become the first power.
                2. Beck
                  Beck 24 March 2013 19: 48 New
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                  Quote: Ascetic
                  Until 1918, Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire.


                  It is clear. But it entered as a territory, and not as a state. The state of Palestine never existed. Palestine is also like Valdai or the Urals. And before the Ottomans, the territory of Palestine was part of the Arab Caliphate, the Byzantine Empire, the Roman Empire. And this is Rome, after the suppression of the Jewish uprising in Judea and Israel in 70-74 years of our era, liquidated their autonomy and created on the territory of these states the province of Palestine.. Borrowing this word from the Jews, who in 1300 BC, the word peleshtim (somehow) called the Philistines. Rome redid the word in his own way to Palestine - the province of Palestine. And most of the Jews as slaves resettled in other provinces. This is not the first, but the most significant scattering of Jews around the world.

                  And Jews have always lived in Palestine. More less, but lived. And only, in my opinion, the Arabs began to inhabit the lands of Palestine since the 7th century, with the establishment of the power of the Arab caliphate. And from the end of the 19th century, the Jews of Europe - Ashkenazi, under the influence of Zionism - the call to their homeland, began to move to Palestine. And when England abandoned its mandate in the Middle East, the UN did not offend anyone and allocated Palestinian lands to both Arabs and Jews. The Arabs started the swara, I have at the state level. When seven Arab countries attacked Israel. The Arab state of Palestine would not have attacked for a long time now.
            2. Kaa
              Kaa 24 March 2013 19: 30 New
              +2
              Quote: Ascetic
              Nobody helped the Jews with arms and immigrant soldiers, except for the Soviet Union and the countries of Eastern Europe. Until now, one can often hear and read in Israel that the Jewish state survived the “Palestinian war” thanks to “volunteers” from the USSR and other socialist countries.

              "Palestinian Jews received weapons mainly through Czechoslovakia. Moreover, first German and Italian weapons were sent to Palestine, as well as those produced at Skoda and ChZ factories in Czechoslovakia. Prague made good money on this. The airfield in Ceske Budejovice was the main transit point Soviet instructors retrained American and British volunteer pilots - veterans of the recent war - on new cars, from Czechoslovakia (through Yugoslavia) they then made risky flights to the territory of Palestine itself They took with them disassembled planes, mainly German Messershmit fighters and English Spitfires, as well as artillery and mortars. Not only future Israeli pilots were trained in Czechoslovakia, but tankers and paratroopers were trained there in Ceske Budejovice. One and a half thousand foot soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces were trained in Olomouc, another two thousand in Mikulov, which formed the part that was originally called the Gottwald Brigade in honor of the leader of the Czechoslovak Communists and the country's leader. The brigade was transferred to Palestine through Yugoslavia. Medical personnel were trained in Wielka Strebn, radio operators and telegraph operators in Liberec, electricians in Pardubice. Soviet political instructors conducted political classes with young Israelis. At the “request” of Stalin, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania and Bulgaria refused to supply weapons to the Arabs, which they did immediately after the end of the war for purely commercial reasons. In Romania and Bulgaria, Soviet specialists trained officers for the Israel Defense Forces. Here, the preparation of Soviet military units for the transfer to Palestine to help Jewish combat units began. But it turned out that the fleet and aviation could not provide a rapid landing operation in the Middle East. It was necessary to prepare for it, first of all, to prepare the receiving side. Soon, Stalin understood this and began to build a "Middle East bridgehead."
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 24 March 2013 19: 35 New
                +3
                At the end of March 1948, Palestinian Jews unpacked and assembled the first four captured Messerschmitt 109 fighters. The next batch of “Czechoslovak” aircraft arrived on May 20, and after 9 days a massive air strike was inflicted on the enemy. From this day, the Israeli Air Force seized air supremacy, which greatly affected the victorious end of the War of Independence. A quarter of a century later, in 1973, Golda Meir wrote: “No matter how radically the Soviet attitude towards us has changed over the next twenty-five years, I cannot forget the picture that seemed to me then. Who knows, we would have survived if not for the weapons and ammunition that we could purchase in Czechoslovakia? ”
              2. Beck
                Beck 24 March 2013 20: 36 New
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                Quote: Ascetic
                And one-sided coverage of events is inappropriate here. This problem cannot be solved by political methods,


                History has not answered this question. Sometimes it would be decided by political methods. This is never out of the question. But by military methods, on the part of the Arabs, she didn’t even decide, as history shows. It was necessary for the Arabs at 48 not to attack, but to negotiate. Yet long-term negotiations are better than a 6-day war and balancing on the brink of total military defeat.
            3. Beck
              Beck 24 March 2013 21: 21 New
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              Quote: Ascetic
              Documents,


              Something the PM fluttered. Answered, but not sent. This is me with inadequate cheers at the beginning of the week clashed, and then rolled down.
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 25 March 2013 08: 38 New
                +1
                Quote: Beck
                Something the PM fluttered.


                Clean it, it’s probably full and it’s not sent
            4. Mironk
              Mironk 25 March 2013 00: 44 New
              -3
              Ascetic
              For the umpteenth time, while reading your posts, I find in them, to put it mildly, "some inaccuracies."
              You verbally present your version of events, which has a very distant relation to reality. One can feel the school of the Soviet political worker.
              I could make out your lengthy writings in detail, and repeatedly refute each phrase. Sorry for the time, I will limit myself to one example that characterizes the level of your "erudition".
              Quote: Ascetic
              As a result, Captain Halperin (born in Vitebsk in 1912) became the founder and first leader of Mossad intelligence, created the Shin Bet public security and counterintelligence service. The history of Israel and its special services “honorary pensioner and faithful heir to Beria,” the second man after Ben-Gurion, entered under the name Iser Harel.

              The truth here is only the date and place of birth of this person, as well as his original surname - Halperin.
              In fact, he was no captain, nor was he a faithful heir to Beria. He had nothing to do with the USSR
              His parents, robbed by the Bolsheviks, fled to Latvia after the revolution. when he was 6 years old. From Latvia at the age of 17, Isser arrives in Palestine. Then there was a great life, full of dangers and heroism, only there was no service in the NKVD.
              This, I think, is a vivid illustration of your principle of presenting the material - a thin wrapper of real information, and under it is an outright disinformation. You, Citizen Ascetic - an incorrectly exposing person! But the competent public in this forum, of course, believes. People hawala ... Keep it up!
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 25 March 2013 08: 50 New
                +3
                Quote: MironK
                You, Citizen Ascetic - an incorrectly exposing person! But the competent public in this forum, of course, believes. People hawala ... Keep it up!


                Israeli historians claim that the founder and first leader of Mossad intelligence, who created the Shin Bet security service and counterintelligence, was a certain captain Halperin, better known by the name of Iser Harel. One of his first successful foreign policy special operations was the discovery and abduction of a Nazi Adolf Eichmann in Buenos Aires, who was responsible for the "final solution of the Jewish question" in Nazi Germany.
                External intelligence "Nativa Bar" was founded by the officer "Smersha" Livanov, who adopted the Jewish name Nehimiya Levanon. Captain Nikolsky, as well as officers Zaitsev and Malevany, stood at the origins of the creation of the army special forces Tsakhal. Two officers of the USSR Navy, whose surnames could not be found out, created and trained a unit of the local naval special forces.
                Israeli "Cherry"

                From the article Israeli special forces - special weapons in special conditions published on the WG website November 26, 2011
                link

                According to veterans of the special services, an atmosphere of manic secrecy reigned in Mossad under Halperin-Kharel, an unnatural desire to save financial resources, and distrust of new-fangled technical equipment. In appearance and manner, the former MGB captain Halperin, later Colonel Mossad and Israel’s honorary pensioner, Izya Harel, tried in every way to resemble his idol, Lavrenty Pavlovich.
                link

                Of course, in Israel it is customary to “believe” the kosher biography of comrade Halperin from Pedevikia. “Stakhanovets” from a kibbutz, an orange picker, who subsequently graduated from the special school “Hagan” (yes, a “serious level” compared to the MGB) And suddenly becoming the leader of the Mossad, immediately after serving on the coast patrol to meet emigrants. How did he then know the methods of the NKVD / MGB and even tried to look like Beria outwardly?
                1. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 25 March 2013 09: 10 New
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                  Quote: Ascetic
                  How did he then know the methods of the NKVD / MGB and even tried to look like Beria outwardly?


                  Rights of veterans .. There are similarities with Beria (add points and antennae and almost twin)
              2. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 25 March 2013 08: 55 New
                +2
                MironK "I could analyze your lengthy writings in detail, and repeatedly refute each phrase. It is a pity for the time, I will limit myself to one example that characterizes the level of your" erudition. "
                Refute me if you talk about it. And then, I could ... hehe well, I couldn’t, I couldn’t ...
                MironK "This, I think, is a vivid illustration of your principle of presenting the material - a thin wrapper of real information, and under it a frank disinformation. You, citizen Ascetic - are incorrectly exposing the facts! But the competent public on this forum, of course, believes. People hawala ... keep it up! "
                Here you are blaming, but somehow unproven.
                For example, I read about this your captain Halperin in the book Arab-Israeli Wars. The author is A. Smirnov. I am not saying that he was in the service of our intelligence or was not. If, as you say, you weren’t, then it is worth refuting, since this is possibly a myth. That's all. And you say people hawala .. hehe ...
                1. Mironk
                  Mironk 26 March 2013 01: 21 New
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                  Ascetic, Nagaybak.
                  Ascetic, you are afraid of the truth by cutting off the objectionable information in advance [quote = Ascetic] in Israel it is customary to “believe” the kosher biography of comrade Halperin from Pedevikia. [/ Quote]
                  Here is a link to another resource - hipersona.ru/secret-agent/sa-organizers intelligence / 1644-isser-harel. You can shovel the network of materials on the sea, on Russian-language sites, and in other languages, but nowhere is there a hint of Harel’s affiliation to the department of Comrade Beria! "Congratulations to you citizen, lied!"

                  You cite the professionalism of Harel as an argument - he does not stand up to criticism, he could acquire knowledge and professional skills not only in the NKVD, not only KGB officers knew how to educate professionals!
                  Indicate where you found the information that he was a full-time employee of the "bodies" with the rank of captain? Do not indicate there is no such data. Congratulations again !
                  Well, the portrait similarity of these characters and chickens to laugh! Both of them, frankly, are by no means of Slavic blood, but it seems to you that the Mengrel, that the Jew is one hell, non-Russian mug ... For me, apart from an extensive bald head, there is nothing in common. And you, soon declare them relatives!
                  And you have such “facts” at every step, which, for example, is the following statement, quote = Ascetic] Two officers of the USSR Navy, whose names were not found out, created and trained a unit of the local naval special forces. [/ quote] WRONG! In the late 40s in the USSR there were no such military units, due to the lack of those. funds. About the history of the creation of the Israeli maritime special operations here - bratishka.ru/archiv/2006/1/2006__9.php. I specially laid out a link to this resource, which in no way can be suspected of excessive kosher. Once again, my congratulations, Mr. Scrabble!
                  1. Kaa
                    Kaa 26 March 2013 02: 26 New
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                    Quote: MironK
                    In the late 40s in the USSR there were no such military units, due to the lack of those. means

                    "In the mid-thirties in the USSR, the idea of ​​landing saboteurs ashore with diving equipment from a buried submarine came in the development of rescue equipment for the crews of submarines.
                    Savichev, Krivosheenko and Krol during the leadership and teaching courses on the individual rescue case (ISD) came to the confidence that the individual breathing apparatus (IDA) can get the same value as the parachute in the airborne troops. Moreover, they decided to prove it in practice. To this end, they carried out a huge research and design work aimed at ensuring such actions and improving the available equipment and technology.
                    In October 1938 of the year they prepared a plan for a special exercise, which was approved by the Commander of the Pacific Fleet, N.G. Kuznetsov, flagship of the second rank, on October 19. The chief medical officer was appointed a first-rank military doctor Savichev I.I. The leaders are the third-rank military doctor NK Krivosheenko. and third-rank military engineer Krol GF
                    The exercise "on the exit of fighters from the torpedo tube of a submarine in individual equipment of a submarine from depths of 15-20 meters, with the aim of cutting anti-submarine networks to force anti-submarine obstacles by the submarine, replacing crews in the underwater position of the submarine, landing for reconnaissance and sabotage by shore ”with the actual use of weapons and explosive means, took place from October 22 to October 24. The exit was carried out in Ulysses Bay from the submarine Sch-112, commanded by Captain 3 Rank Berestovsky. Representatives of the Pacific Fleet Military Council attended the exercises. "http://www.specnaz-gru.ru/history/navyforses
                    "The Soviet Union began the formation of units of swimmers for operations during the Second World War. In 1941, the first unit of combat divers was created in Leningrad." Http://sof-mag.ru/spec_arms/rossia_boevie_plavsi.html

                    “The first attempts to create special reconnaissance and sabotage units using diving equipment in the Navy were made during the Second World War. One of these units was the Special Purpose Rota, formed in the Baltic Fleet in August-September 1941, in which students from the Vyborg Diving School came in. Later, similar units were created in the Pacific and Black Sea Fleets. Marine special forces quickly proved their ability to successfully complete the most tasks like: from reconnaissance and sabotage on enemy territory to the recovery of valuable documents from sunken ships. "http://www.zakon-grif.ru/swat/articles/view/49.htm
                    “On August 11, 1941, the order of the People’s Commissar of the Navy on the formation of a special-purpose company (RON) was signed. Lieutenant Prokhvatilov Ivan Vasilievich was appointed its commander on the recommendation of Krylov.
                    By September 7, the preparation and cobbling together of a new unit was completed and the company was handed over to the reconnaissance department (RO) of the Baltic Fleet headquarters. By April 1944, a special reconnaissance detachment consisting of ten people had been created in the Black Sea Fleet. He was led by a former commander of the RON platoon, senior lieutenant Osipov. After the 1938 Pacific Fleet exercises were held annually to land reconnaissance groups from submarines in submarine position. And during the war years, such exercises were carried out for the purpose of combat training. In 1945, based on the experience of these exercises, a manual was even developed for landing RG from watercraft. However, the fleet did not begin the formation of the hundred and fortieth detachment only in January 1945 with a deadline of March 15. Http://www.specnaz-gru.ru/history/navyforses. "
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 23 March 2013 20: 35 New
    +5
    Well, shaw, how are step-step ?! They have a BOOK! It’s written in that book ... True, on this basis, you can do things, the whole planet will burn enough seven times. But the Jews know for sure, their book is the only real one. The rest of the books are not.
  • Intel Inside
    Intel Inside 23 March 2013 22: 03 New
    -7
    Dear, Jews have been living there for several centuries, unlike the Arabs who captured and destroyed the civilizations there, carrying their religion with fire and sword
    1. Alexander Petrovich
      Alexander Petrovich 24 March 2013 17: 17 New
      +1
      In my opinion, Jews and Arabs of the same breed. One and the same people of only different faiths, and then related ones.
  • Pu239
    Pu239 24 March 2013 03: 05 New
    +5
    What is clear:
    With regard to the Arabs, Israel has the same policies that Hitler pursued.
    And this bastard took a lot from The mononational religion of the Jews.
    So two boots ...
  • yak69
    yak69 23 March 2013 15: 21 New
    20
    Quote: Roman-75
    on lands that belonged to Jews from ancient times.

    Brad Sive Cable - Bullshit!
    Dear, you are raving !!
    Take the medicine in the form of a history study (at least in this region!).

    Mlechin is a clone of Svanidze, and all together, they are MEMBERS of the occupation administration, headed by the red, Abramovich and the bear.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 23 March 2013 15: 37 New
      +6
      Absolutely right! The members of the occupation administration and, unfortunately, our people can’t enter this either, and these creatures are doing whatever they want !!!
  • predator.3
    predator.3 23 March 2013 15: 53 New
    +6
    Quote: Roman-75
    In fact, it was the Arabs who “settled” on the lands that belonged to the Jews from ancient times.

    It was Joshua who arranged for the Reconquista Philistines and destroyed Jericho, arguing that it was the Lord God himself who gave these promised lands.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 23 March 2013 16: 50 New
      -1
      Quote: predator.3
      Quote: Roman-75
      In fact, it was the Arabs who “settled” on the lands that belonged to the Jews from ancient times.

      It was Joshua who arranged for the Reconquista Philistines and destroyed Jericho, arguing that it was the Lord God himself who gave these promised lands.

      Then it was already "Canaanam" for the area of ​​the Dorian tribes of the "Philistines" was exclusively on the coast, where they created five city-states from Gaza to Ashdod.
  • dark_65
    dark_65 23 March 2013 16: 01 New
    13
    Before you write this, you should at least read the story.
    Well, the Old Testament was never a mandate to obtain housing. And the tribes of Israel were 13 ... so they are 100% related. But this is how they behaved when they moved in, if there were Arabs, I would have arranged a second holocaust for them, for all their policies., and actions.
    Zionists and fascists are one thing.
  • AlexW
    AlexW 23 March 2013 16: 23 New
    13
    Roman 75 - "land mocked by Jews" - if 2 thousand years ago Jews (Semites) grazed goats in Palistin, then this still does not give them the right to apply for it. They abandoned, fled, left to the fate of their brothers the Semites-Palestinians, and now after a thousand years have come, get out, that's all ours. fellow ... Yes, and what kind of Jews? -the ancestors of the Sephardic, but once upon a time long walked on the Arabian sands. And what does Sarah from Berdichev and Moishe from Moldavanka have to do with Palistine. The Khazars can, in the best case, call their sultry Volga steppes their homeland — yes, the Kalmyk friend of the steppes will forgive me laughing .
  • cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 17: 08 New
    0
    And whose are you, Mr. Jew, you swaddled the swastika? This is a sign of the Slavs and Arievs, but you would probably have approached the star of David, do not be like Hitler, you unmask yourself like that.
  • cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 17: 16 New
    +5
    Quote: Roman-75
    ? Why the hell to the Jews the entire area of ​​resettlement of Arabs?

    And you, Mr. Jew, you’ve got a swastika on your avatar? This is not your sign, but the Slavs; rather, the star of David will suit you. No need to be like Hitler, you will unmask yourself in this way anyway.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 23 March 2013 20: 39 New
      +2
      Yes, fine, this is a "dead stake", it will die early, that's all ... Sinologists remind me of such educators. Those, too, the "pill of immortality" of the Taoists flooded. They died for a long time, colorfully, with screams and snot .....
  • Hunter thomson
    Hunter thomson 23 March 2013 21: 13 New
    0
    Leave a friend. But I do not care who was right and who is wrong in 48. Did the Jews squeeze the land from the Arabs, did the Arabs squeeze when, contrary to the UN resolution, the regular armies of five states rushed to destroy the six hundred thousandth Jewish state. I have been to Israel more than once, and for me it is a modern civilized country with a civilized population. Are there any fascists among the Israelites who were frostbitten, anyway, well, but in Russia they are not? Or are the Nazis not marching in America? Among all peoples there is a frostbitten element, and among Jews. But on the whole, pleasant, well-educated people, akin to the Greeks and the Italians are a bit noisy, but this is typical of the southern peoples. Science is being moved, something is being created. There are successes in some ways. The successes of their cousins ​​in science and civilizational achievements in general are much more modest, and the frostbitten element with the “Ah Akbar” of the brain (may all moderate adherents of traditional Islam forgive me) is no longer an example. And I personally Arabs mentally, culturally, civilizationally much further. After the Holocaust, Jews should have gained at least some state. Where, if not there may be their state? In Birobidzhan? In Crimea? In Uganda? (many options were discussed) Israel is not a guarantee that the Holocaust can no longer happen again. But this is a guarantee that this time if the Jews die, they will die in battle, with weapons in their hands. And I'm not even trying to poke around the arguments of one or the other. The Germans seventy years ago did such atrocities that horror. But today, I am extremely sympathetic to the German people. And the Germans are extremely pleasant to me. When I am in Israel, I feel a little less comfortable among the Israelis than among the Germans, but much more comfortable and more pleasant than I would have felt in Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Saudi Arabia among their cousins. The Israelis, one way or another, a progressive society aimed at the future, Arabs a regression society aimed at the obscurantist past. And honestly, I don’t want to know any more arguments who first bitten anyone for eggs in the past. Here both have their own and very well-grounded version.
    1. TUMAN
      TUMAN 23 March 2013 21: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: Hunter Thomson
      Are there any fascists among the Israelites who were frostbitten, anyway, well, but in Russia they are not? Or are the Nazis not marching in America? Among all peoples there is a frostbitten element, and among Jews.

      Stop pouring, analyze your scripture over the past few days, nothing new, well, the Slavs are not being conducted on your temptations, they have bitten you! What are you, what Beck, one and the same, as if one person, pushing all the Zionist crap here! You don’t even work out your 30 pieces of silver lol The crisis of the genre! laughing
      1. Mironk
        Mironk 23 March 2013 22: 36 New
        -8
        TUMAN
        You are a slave, not a Slav, and you think like a slave, you are not capable of anything, ZERO!
        1. GG2012
          GG2012 23 March 2013 22: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: MironK
          You are a slave, not a Slav

          thin - adj. thinnish, watery, weak ...
          1. TUMAN
            TUMAN 23 March 2013 23: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: GG2012
            watery

            Yes, the liquid Jew has gone now! Not even interesting, are they degrading there or what? lol
            1. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 23: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: TUMAN
              Yes, the liquid Jew has gone now! Not even interesting, are they degrading there or what?

              Something they often fall into tantrums in recent days, even at the supposedly “Beck” a nervous breakdown was observed yesterday.
              1. Pu239
                Pu239 24 March 2013 03: 25 New
                +3
                Why have Jews not been loved since the days of Ancient Egypt?

                Because everyone can believe in Amon, Allah, Jesus, Buddha, etc.

                And Judaism, like Nazism, is only for ONE NATION.

                Hitler is accused of plagiarism ....
              2. Beck
                Beck 24 March 2013 18: 37 New
                0
                Quote: cherkas.oe
                Something they often fall into tantrums in recent days, even at the supposedly “Beck” a nervous breakdown was observed yesterday.


                And what do you mean by my nervous breakdown? Is it that my presentation style is not the same as that of the handwriters? And your allegations of an alleged disruption, your inability to respond is reasoned and clear.

                For instance. I say that the Arab-Israeli conflict began in 1948 by the Arabs. They were the first to attack with the forces of SEVEN armies of the Arab states. Here without names and tantrums argue that this is not so. Give the dates, documents, links that Israel attacked immediately 7 Arab states. Moreover, somehow landed a pile of troops in Yemen. After all, the army of Yemen also fought with Israel.
            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 23 March 2013 23: 43 New
              0
              Quote: TUMAN
              Quote: GG2012
              watery

              Yes, the liquid Jew has gone now! Not even interesting, are they degrading there or what? lol

              I would not say that. It’s quite a healthy people. To be treated, for example, Russians go here, and not vice versa. Yes, and many engage in mass sports. So thank you, of course, for your concern for our health, but we are somehow without you. repeat
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 24 March 2013 00: 03 New
                +7
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                To be treated, for example, Russians go here, and not vice versa. Yes, and many engage in mass sports.
                Who will argue, not just the Russians, but the Heroes of Russia! - "Ramzan Kadyrov has gone beyond Chechnya. The head of the republic intends to build a mosque in Israel. The cost of a new mosque in the Israeli village of Abu Ghosh has not been disclosed. However, according to unofficial information, the object must be at the level - so as not to hit the face with dirt. After all, we are talking about improving the image of the republic abroad. Rumor has it that the structure will not be inferior to the famous Golden Dome in Jerusalem.
                .. Commented by political scientist Stanislav Belkovsky: “Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov in the current political system of the Russian Federation is a person, if not the first, as they say in Odessa, then not the second. Therefore, he is allowed everything. Ramzan Kadyrov has enough money not only to restore Grozny, whether restored or not, is unknown, but also to build a mosque in Israel. Well? The Israeli authorities will react to this, of course, negatively. But the federal center cannot argue with Ramzan Kadyrov, he is absolutely politically, psychologically dependent on him. ”
                There is no official reaction of the Israeli authorities to Kadyrov’s initiative yet. And the news itself is not significant for the country. Much more discussed riot of fans of the Jerusalem football club Beitar against the arrival of two players from the Grozny Terek, said Israeli journalist Alexander Kogan: “Two players came from Chechnya, two Muslims. Three hundred people of the most inveterate fans made a scandal, set fire to even the premises of the Beitar office. This is a problem thing, the fact is that before the Chechen players in Beitar, foreign legionnaires who were Muslims from Tajikistan played, if I’m not mistaken. ”Http://news.rambler.ru/18016284/
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 01: 08 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Kaa

                  Well, football fans are not very intelligent people. Here in Russia you will either throw a banana on the field in front of a black legionnaire, or when the Dagestan club defends the honor of Russia in an international tournament, Muscovites get sick against it, so what? There are plenty of cattle everywhere in Israel and here on the forum. "Se la vie."
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 24 March 2013 01: 36 New
                    +1
                    Yes, Aronchik, You, bydlyachek is the same, Israeli, You, ours.
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 01: 45 New
                      +2
                      Quote: hrych
                      Yes, Aronchik, You, bydlyachek is the same, Israeli, You, ours.

                      Maybe the "bydlyachok", it is more visible from the side, but certainly not yours.
                    2. hrych
                      hrych 24 March 2013 02: 00 New
                      +2
                      Well, how, did he repatriate from the USSR? So ours, even a chunk (unleavened bread) and cut off. Anyway, after all, is it pulling on a Russian site or not?
                    3. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 08: 02 New
                      +2
                      In the "Russian" does not pull. I came to the site "military review" because I am interested in military history and technology, but the problems of today's Russia or its tomorrow have nothing to do with me. You have your own country. I have my own. I can only wish you all the best, and I have enough Israeli problems to think about yours.
              2. Kaa
                Kaa 24 March 2013 01: 38 New
                +3
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                Here in Russia you’ll throw a banana on the field in front of a black legionnaire,

                We fight. For insulting the judge, Kadyrov was also fined, his “Terek” was banned from holding the next match in Grozny, and you?
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 01: 48 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Kaa
                  Quote: Aaron Zawi
                  Here in Russia you’ll throw a banana on the field in front of a black legionnaire,

                  We fight. For insulting the judge, Kadyrov was also fined, his “Terek” was banned from holding the next match in Grozny, and you?

                  Someone was planted out of fans, the club was raped for a certain amount, but for me it’s a drum. Firstly, not a big fan of football, and secondly, crowds of fans, regardless of origin, are so similar in their stupidity that I do not distinguish between them.
                2. hrych
                  hrych 24 March 2013 02: 02 New
                  +4
                  Aron, you see them on yermolkom (piles).
        2. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 24 March 2013 01: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          but we are somehow without you.

          So we agreed, we will be glad not to see you on the site any time.
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 01: 21 New
            -2
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            but we are somehow without you.

            So we agreed, we will be glad not to see you on the site any time.

            Are you the owner of this site? If so, then your wish is legal, but if not, alas.
  • TUMAN
    TUMAN 23 March 2013 22: 59 New
    +4
    Quote: MironK
    You are a slave, not a Slav, and you think like a slave, you are not capable of anything, ZERO!

    You are a half-Jewish man, in Israel you do not pull on a full-fledged one, and that is why you are spraying saliva here! In principle, you are nobody, so the local semi-Jewish “cute,” sacrificial ram, for the next Holocaust! You still haven't been sterilized?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 23 March 2013 23: 07 New
      0
      Quote: TUMAN
      Quote: MironK
      You are a slave, not a Slav, and you think like a slave, you are not capable of anything, ZERO!

      You are a half-Jewish man, in Israel you do not pull on a full-fledged one, and that is why you are spraying saliva here! In principle, you are nobody, so the local semi-Jewish “cute,” sacrificial ram, for the next Holocaust! You still haven't been sterilized?

      So come try it. hi A visa is not needed today.
      1. TUMAN
        TUMAN 23 March 2013 23: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        So come try it. A visa is not needed today.
        Come to us, in Western Ukraine will be happy! Oh, how glad you are !!!! lol
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 24 March 2013 00: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          So come try

          Quote: TUMAN
          Come to us, in Western Ukraine will be happy!

          Go to Prykarpattya, go through Jajte, good people,
          Tomorrow will be for your sake!
          Kulematom you zustrinem, faynu kulu visibly,
          Schob Naviki you are stuck in us!
          I heard a song in Lviv in one of the local "zucchini 13 chairs", it really reflects the mood of part of the population of this region, so to the invitation of a respected TUMANa mr Aaron Zawi, I would react with a certain amount of skepticism and caution. By the way, curiosity has been overcome for a long time, your nickname does not come from the name of one retired major general of one of your special services?
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 01: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: TUMAN
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          So come try it. A visa is not needed today.
          Come to us, in Western Ukraine will be happy! Oh, how glad you are !!!! lol

          And to me that Western Ukraine, that Eastern, that Bangladesh. Well, just watch on TV. And so I am absolutely not interested in how you live there. Is it good, is it bad does not concern me in any way. We have our own problems.
          1. TUMAN
            TUMAN 24 March 2013 03: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            And to me that Western Ukraine, that Eastern, that Bangladesh. Well, just watch on TV. And so I am absolutely not interested in how you live there. Is it good, is it bad does not concern me in any way. We have our own problems.

            So why do you trade on a Russian-language site? Nostalgia? Or a job?
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 08: 05 New
              +2
              Quote: TUMAN
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              And to me that Western Ukraine, that Eastern, that Bangladesh. Well, just watch on TV. And so I am absolutely not interested in how you live there. Is it good, is it bad does not concern me in any way. We have our own problems.

              So why do you trade on a Russian-language site? Nostalgia? Or a job?

              This is the site of Military Review, and I am primarily interested in military history and technology, but when local anti-Semites begin to harass my people and my country, I answer.
              1. TUMAN
                TUMAN 24 March 2013 11: 49 New
                +1
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                This is the site of "Military Review" and I am primarily interested in military history and equipment, but when local anti-Semites begin to harass my people and my country, I answer

                Correct, it’s the local Zionists who start to harass my people, and I answer, because the Zionists have gone very far! But no matter how far they (the Zionists) go, they will be rewarded by the accounts! There are examples! Litvinenko, Boris Abgamovich, father Litvinenko oh how apologized to Russia! This is a lesson for you, Zionist brothers, and this is only the beginning!
              2. edge
                edge 24 March 2013 18: 35 New
                +1
                just say thanks to your ancestors, until the 10th century they roamed Russia under a six-pointed star, until their prince Svyatoslav drove into the earth ......
  • fzr1000
    fzr1000 24 March 2013 00: 57 New
    +5
    slave is from latin. The etymology of the word Slavs is derived from a more ancient language, Indo-European and the word slauos, which means mobile.
  • Intel Inside
    Intel Inside 23 March 2013 22: 00 New
    -2
    It seems to be told the truth, but zaminusovali. Roman-75 do not worry, well, people do not like the truth with us, DO NOT LOVE.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 23: 34 New
      +7
      Quote: Intel Inside
      Well, our people do not like the truth

      He doesn’t like you, but we have Russian land on it.
  • Aleks28
    Aleks28 23 March 2013 12: 11 New
    11
    QUOTATION of the author: Leonid Mlechin said that our enemies are driven, first of all, by a feeling of envy and impaired pride, So he doesn’t associate himself with Russia anymore? As you know, Syria is not (at the moment) an enemy of Russia, so why the hell are we such magazines? am
  • Roman 75
    Roman 75 23 March 2013 12: 16 New
    -14
    Quote: Allex28
    QUOTATION of the author: Leonid Mlechin said that our enemies are driven, first of all, by a feeling of envy and impaired pride, So he doesn’t associate himself with Russia anymore? As you know, Syria is not (at the moment) an enemy of Russia, so why the hell are we such magazines? am


    Have you read the article carefully?
    Who is its author, noticed? And here Mlechin, if he wrote a Jew living in Israel, who simply used some materials from the film?
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 March 2013 12: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: Roman-75
      Have you read the article carefully?

      Well, that means the author’s soap, They don’t insert their fabrications into the statements of other people. But in terms of meaning, this is the saying of Mlechin himself. The word combination: “stated that” is
      begins: "literally said the following."
  • Roman 75
    Roman 75 23 March 2013 12: 29 New
    -12
    Quote: Allex28
    Quote: Roman-75

    In fact, it was the Arabs who “settled” on the lands that belonged to the Jews from ancient times. This time.
    And these are two -. 1947, in your opinion, deep antiquity? belay True, the first settlers appeared a little earlier.


    What?
    Jews in those territories appeared in 1947? Zvizdets, definitely ...
    And whose rebellion, interestingly, was suppressed by the Romans in Judea? And in the "Babylonian captivity" who was stolen and the first destruction of whose Temple the Babylonians arranged? It was probably the Arabs, right?
    Ahh, got it, got it! This, of course, the Slavs lived there! laughing
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 March 2013 12: 40 New
      10
      Quote: Roman-75
      And whose rebellion, interestingly, was suppressed by the Romans in Judea? And in the "Babylonian captivity" who was stolen and the first destruction of whose Temple the Babylonians arranged? It was probably the Arabs, right?

      Or maybe Egypt could also be given to the Jews, because according to the statements, they used to live there too. Venice can be given there, the Jews lived there, the Ukrainian Zhmerinka .... Yes, the whole world, because they’re in any the country is.
      1. AlexW
        AlexW 23 March 2013 16: 31 New
        +8
        Allex28- They already had a claim to the Crimea — Stalin quickly put them in their place — sent them to Palistina, “planted a pig for the British” laughing And they looked at Madagascar. Now they are actively discussing the creation of a Jewish state in Germany (Weimar). And what will happen to them and everything will be reasoned (for them), justified. "Moysha -Monako, a good place, I somehow lost 100 bucks here. They owe me - we will live here."
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 23 March 2013 16: 35 New
          +7
          Quote: AlexW
          They already had pretensions in Crimea — Stalin quickly put them in their place — sent them to Palistina, “planted a pig for the British,” laughing. And they looked at Madagascar. Now they are actively discussing the creation of a Jewish state in Germany (Weimar). And what will happen to them and everything will be reasoned (for them), justified. "Moysha -Monako, a good place, I somehow lost 100 bucks here. They owe me - we will live here."

          And believe me, they will find Bible places everywhere, there they have in their torus in reserve all geography laughing
        2. WS
          WS 23 March 2013 18: 50 New
          +2
          Stalin himself offered Crimea to the Jews, but the Amer refused, after which Stalin said that: - "There will never be peace on this land (Sinai)." Something like that.
          1. GG2012
            GG2012 24 March 2013 03: 18 New
            +3
            Quote: WS
            Stalin himself offered Crimea to the Jews,

            Wrong, you say.
            Crimea to Jews, this is the Zionist-Merikosov idea, voiced through the "Joint", and Trotsky, Bukharin and Kamenev actively supported it.
            Stalin agreed to take the Judeo-Merikosovskaya Dolareses, but did not agree to give the Crimea to the Judeo-Occupants.
            In 1954, Corn Khrushchev realized the procurement of Comrade. Stalin.
            Crimea was transferred from the RSFSR, for which loans and debt receipts were issued, to Ukraine, free of obligations.
            From so on!
            Oil painting!
      2. Rustiger
        Rustiger 23 March 2013 20: 00 New
        +6
        To do this, they have a wailing wall. To "REQUEST" -
    2. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 March 2013 13: 26 New
      +7
      Quote: Roman-75

      Jews in those territories appeared in 1947?

      Read carefully:
      Quote: Allex28
      And these are two -. 1947, in your opinion, deep antiquity? belay True, the first settlers appeared a little earlier.

      But (I will use the terms of historians) the first references to the state of Israel that have reached us are considered to be May 14.05.1948, XNUMX.
  • Roman 75
    Roman 75 23 March 2013 12: 46 New
    -11
    Quote: Allex28

    Or maybe Egypt could also be given to the Jews, because according to the statements, they used to live there too. Venice can be given there, the Jews lived there, the Ukrainian Zhmerinka .... Yes, the whole world, because they’re in any the country is.


    You do not translate arrows, please. And you don’t have to slide into insanity, it’s unproductive.
    Jews merely demand that they be left alone. Why don't the Arabs do this?
    1. predator.3
      predator.3 23 March 2013 16: 01 New
      24
      Quote: Roman-75
      Jews merely demand that they be left alone. Why don't the Arabs do this?
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 23 March 2013 16: 10 New
        +8
        Quote: predator.3
        predator.3

        Without words, but capacious. good +
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 23 March 2013 16: 46 New
          -17
          Quote: Allex28
          Quote: predator.3
          predator.3

          Without words, but capacious. good +

          Did you try to compare the map of the Moscow state at the beginning of the 17 century and today's Russia? Also very capacious.
          1. Aleks28
            Aleks28 23 March 2013 17: 00 New
            +7
            Quote: Aaron Zawi

            Did you try to compare the map of the Moscow state at the beginning of the 17 century and today's Russia? Also very capacious.

            And, what, what is this, a completely normal globe laughing
          2. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 23 March 2013 17: 51 New
            +4
            Well, for some reason, let's discuss. From the 1946 of the year we take the Katra of the USSR and Russia to 2000.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 23 March 2013 18: 44 New
              -1
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              Well, for some reason, let's discuss. From the 1946 of the year we take the Katra of the USSR and Russia to 2000.

              The USSR and the Russian Federation are far from the same thing.
              1. BIGLESHIY
                BIGLESHIY 24 March 2013 15: 11 New
                +4
                Quote: Aaron Zawi

                The USSR and the Russian Federation are far from the same thing.

                Yeah, and as a public debt of the USSR to give so the same thing am
                1. Beck
                  Beck 24 March 2013 19: 10 New
                  -4
                  Quote: BIGLESHIY
                  Yeah, and as a public debt of the USSR to give so the same thing


                  You have said such an out of ignorance, or you are specifically telling a lie, that is, lying. Initially, all republics were supposed to pay the external debt of the USSR.

                  "Succession Agreement in respect of the external debt and assets of the Union
                  SSR, was signed by the former Union republics on December 4, 1991.
                  It was assumed that each of the states will bear its share
                  liability for external debt, and also have an appropriate share in
                  ASSETS of the former USSR
                  "

                  ASSETS of the former USSR are all real estate abroad - the buildings of embassies, consulates, international organizations, publishing houses and firms created by the Central Committee of the CPSU abroad.

                  "However, after 16 months (April 2, 1993), the Government
                  Of the Russian Federation announced the assumption of all obligations of the former
                  Soviet republics to pay off the external debt of the USSR in exchange for their refusal
                  shares in foreign assets of the USSR
                  - Thus, the entire state external debt of the former USSR passed
                  to Russia.
                  "

                  Well, and what will you answer? If you don’t know, there’s nothing to catch. If you knew and lied, then it is on your conscience.
                  1. BIGLESHIY
                    BIGLESHIY 27 March 2013 14: 11 New
                    -1
                    And where are the assets of the former USSR (do not touch consulates and embassies)?
                    And that between 4.12.1991 and 2.4.1993 the former union republics paid something? Well, bring the numbers!
                    1. Beck
                      Beck 27 March 2013 15: 59 New
                      0
                      Quote: BIGLESHIY
                      And where are the assets of the former USSR (we don’t touch the consulates and embassies)? And what did the former union republics pay something between 4.12.1991/2.4.1993/XNUMX and XNUMX? Well, bring the numbers!


                      Search your assets. And why do not touch these embassies and consulates, real estate in the centers of the world capitals costs a lot of money. By the way, Putin was once engaged in them as Borodin’s deputy.

                      Paid or not, I don’t know. But there was a contract. The debt was divided. And even if Ukraine did not pay, then nobody would pay its part of the debt. This part would have hung on Ukraine until the end of the centuries or until the repayment of this part of it. Neither Kazakhstan nor Russia would ever repay the share of Ukraine.

                      In general, what claims may be. Russia proposed bash on bash, and all agreed. Now claim to your leadership. And why cast a shadow on the wattle fence. They refused, and now they blame others. It is still unknown what more weighed and what gave more in the future. (Selling real estate, letting it out, etc.).
      2. AlexW
        AlexW 23 March 2013 16: 39 New
        13
        Predator-75 of the UN General Assembly in 1975 recognized Israel as a fascist state. Other and cannot be a state based on nationality and based on the laws of Nazi Germany. Fascism-Zionism is a single project, some puppeteers are different performers.
        1. WS
          WS 23 March 2013 19: 00 New
          +2
          The Turks are the same Mydaki, half of Cyprus chopped off in 1974 m, and nothing! Apparently no one envies them. The article is certainly inconvenient, I don’t like the conclusion, but why do not the Cypriots expel the Turks, Georgia does not expel the Turks from Adjara? Is there a different mentality? Are Arabs mainly Muslims, Cypriots, Georgians, Christians?
      3. SHOCK.
        SHOCK. 23 March 2013 17: 48 New
        +2
        + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    2. Rustiger
      Rustiger 23 March 2013 16: 13 New
      +7
      Roman 75
      Jews only require to leave them alone

      Jews always demand that they be left alone. Moreover, they demand this from those who once “sheltered” them. So they "demanded" in Spain, but they raked a robust design. Then they demanded from the Hitler youth that he should leave their banks and loan offices “alone”. To do this, they set him on Stalin, who had also previously been subjected to a “demand to leave them alone” after the well-known atrocities perpetrated by the “SILENT”.
      And now let them “demand”, and the Persians rivet the bomb quietly. And when they rivet, especially demanding will be involved in the first tests.
    3. yak69
      yak69 23 March 2013 16: 42 New
      12
      Quote: Roman-75
      Jews merely demand that they be left alone.

      Or maybe the other way around ?! Zionists need to leave the whole world alone and stop their vile disruptive work!
      Zionists are the most malignant bacteria that corrode the human body. Zionists are the same evil and vile aliens who hate all other people.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 24 March 2013 03: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Roman-75
        Jews merely demand that they be left alone.

        Ask, and it shall be given you; seek and find; knock, and they will open it to you; for everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds ...
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 24 March 2013 05: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          and the seeker finds ...

          ... WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS NOT BEEN ENOUGH TO HIM - THE EARTH OF PRESSED AND ETERNAL RELAX ...
  • Aleks28
    Aleks28 23 March 2013 12: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: Roman-75
    Jews merely demand that they be left alone. Why don't the Arabs do this?

    At the moment, only Iran is yapping, and the rest of its problems are full of mouths. And with the Palestinians the question is different, they won’t calm down for a long time, but this issue must be resolved not by arms, but by peaceful means, the process is long, but true.
    Quote: Roman-75
    You do not translate arrows, please. And you don’t have to slide into insanity, it’s unproductive.

    I didn’t translate the arrows, you just told me history, and I’m history. And I don’t see this.
    1. Roman 75
      Roman 75 23 March 2013 13: 03 New
      -12
      At the moment, only Iran is yapping, and the rest of its problems are full of mouths. And with the Palestinians the question is different, they won’t calm down for a long time, but this issue must be resolved not by arms, but by peaceful means, the process is long, but true.


      Yeah. Very true.
      Especially, with such "negotiable" pretzels that bank in the Gaza Strip ...
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 23 March 2013 13: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: Roman-75

        Especially, with such "negotiable" pretzels that bank in the Gaza Strip ...

        And what do you think, in history there are few examples where the indigenous population immediately reconciled to the seizure of their home. Now there is a long process, and the less Israelis shoot, the better.
        1. does it
          does it 23 March 2013 15: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Allex28
          And what do you think, in history there are few examples where the indigenous population immediately reconciled to the seizure of their home. Now there is a long process, and the less Israelis shoot, the better.

          the seizure of land by commanders and their transformation into provinces paying taxes, events separated by a long period of time: for Sicily it is 52 years, for Africa-109 years, for Spain-250 years. ..... p. 28 Wells Patculus "Roman History"
  • Roman 75
    Roman 75 23 March 2013 14: 59 New
    -14
    Quote: Allex28

    Read carefully:
    Quote: Allex28
    And these are two -. 1947, in your opinion, deep antiquity? belay True, the first settlers appeared a little earlier.

    But (I will use the terms of historians) the first references to the state of Israel that have reached us are considered to be May 14.05.1948, XNUMX.


    The kingdom of Israel is not mentioned in the Bible, is it? There was no kingdom of Judah? Archaeological data about who and what the Romans conquered, for example, do not exist?
    Cool, cool ... Novohrenologiya and did not roll around ...
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 March 2013 15: 11 New
      +6
      Quote: Roman-75
      The kingdom of Israel is not mentioned in the Bible, is it? There was no kingdom of Judah? Archaeological data about who and what the Romans conquered, for example, do not exist?

      And in the Bible, what are geographical references? Moreover, when it was, it’s also necessary to give half of Russia such a manner. Volga Bolgars, Altai Turkam ...... and T: D. So what do you think? And archaeological excavations (according to the archaeologists themselves) do not prove anything at all, and they ask even more questions about the turn.
    2. cc-20
      cc-20 23 March 2013 18: 20 New
      11
      The Old Testament is a fake written in the Middle Ages by Maimonides and other Talmudists. The Old Testament or the Torah is a collection of conflicting books. The early Christians, like during the baptism of Russia, did not use this muck at all, translated and had only the Gospel circulated. Later, starting with Catholics and Protestants, and after that, the Greeks succumbed to the Pharisee decomposition and began to worship the torus. In Russia, this crap was imposed after the split by Nikon. Hence the lack of ancient manuscripts, as they were not there. They found Qumran records, but there are only prophecies about the Essenes Christ. About archeology, in general, it is interesting to find Roman ruins with mosaic floors, find them the previous period of Macedon rule until Herod, but not a single artifact from the time of Solomon, etc. That's the whole archeology.
    3. TUMAN
      TUMAN 23 March 2013 18: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: Roman-75
      The kingdom of Israel is not mentioned in the Bible

      Hey Zionist ?! What are you yourself Slavic swastika fastened on the avatar ?! Doesn't burn along the way?
    4. YuDDP
      YuDDP 24 March 2013 00: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: Roman-75
      Cool, cool ... Novohrenologiya and did not roll around ...

      But they did not try to read it: http://www.newsru.co.il/rest/30mar2010/zand500.html

      Book by Tel Aviv University professor Shlomo Zanda, "Who and How Invented the Jewish People."

      “I do not pretend that I have discovered anything new,” Professor Zand emphasized. “I only reorganized the pre-existing historical knowledge, bringing to the forefront what I still preferred to hide.”

      Sand emphasizes that those who call themselves Jews today have no historical right to the present territory of Israel. The real descendants of Abraham, David and Solomon were, in his opinion, the Palestinian Arabs: Palestinian Jews who converted to Islam in the XNUMXth century. Today's Jews are descendants of various nations who have converted to Judaism. Jews as an ethnos, as a people, as a race - do not exist, Shlomo Zand is convinced.
  • atalef
    atalef 23 March 2013 15: 23 New
    -14
    There were 19 numbers at a meeting with Mlechin in Haifa. In general, the main conversation was about mines. foreign affairs from Chicherin to Lavrov, then a film. . The fact that Assad's father had the USSR as he wanted is no secret to anyone. From loans and arms deliveries (for gigantic sums (practically non-repaid)) to the construction of infrastructure facilities in Syria. Moreover, from Syria's promises to give the opportunity to build an airfield and base in Syria, barely (at the end-ends) agreed (Syrians) after all loans and weapons - to the point of technical service. And who the fuck is here, you ask. For the money received by Syria, the USSR could buy half the islands of Greece. And what about Somalia? First they were supported by the prince (against Ethiopia). base and airfield. then, suddenly, Ethiopia wanted socialism, they threw Somalia so (of course, they were expelled from there and didn’t return loans or weapons (USSR), switched to Ethiopia - bases, an airfield, loans - (the war in Eritrea started. They didn’t support those and again no weapons, neither bases nor repaid loans) and so around the world. (By the way with Venezuela, it seems to me the same way) And all because of the moronic MID and ALL ITS HEADS, from Molotov. Vyshinsky. Shepilova, Gromyko and ending with Lavrov.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 23 March 2013 15: 46 New
      +1
      The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is a performer, so it’s not at the address ... And in general, we have been living under Khrushch for 33 years under communism !!!
    2. yak69
      yak69 23 March 2013 17: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: atalef
      all because of the moronic midAnd all his heads

      The Foreign Ministry has nothing to do with it! The main traitor - Khrushchev (so that the devils roasted in hell!) Removed Stalin. If the father of the peoples had lived another ten years, now they would have definitely lived under communism, in the planetary USSR, consisting of 208 republics.

      And Comrade Barack Obama would be the first secretary of the Illinois Regional Party Committee, no more.
    3. ebrd
      ebrd 23 March 2013 18: 33 New
      +2
      [quote = atalef] ..... moronic Foreign Ministry ... from Molotov .... Gromyko and ending with Lavrov.
      You, of course, Shevarnadze and Kozyrev more like who would doubt !!!
  • Roman 75
    Roman 75 23 March 2013 15: 26 New
    -14
    Quote: Allex28

    And in the Bible, what are geographical references? Moreover, when it was, it’s also necessary to give half of Russia such a manner. Volga Bolgars, Altai Turkam ...... and T: D. So what do you think? And archaeological excavations (according to the archaeologists themselves) do not prove anything at all, and they ask even more questions about the turn.


    In fact, Jerusalem and Jericho have not gone away, it seems. So, there are very many bindings.

    Although, of course, there is no need to invent anything, no biblical texts should be corroborated - there is UN General Assembly resolution No. 181 of November 29, 1947, which clearly and clearly defines the division of then Palestine and the creation of a Jewish state. Jews have the full and absolute right to live in such a state. And his inviolability must certainly be recognized by all.
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 March 2013 15: 55 New
      +6
      Quote: Roman-75
      In fact, Jerusalem and Jericho have not gone away, it seems. So, there are very many bindings.

      By Jerusalem you mean Al-Quds. Jerusalem and Jericho were not found or discovered, but were appointed in the 19th century. And under the concept of Jerusalem, there are a lot of cities that are the capital of Byzantium and the capital of ancient Egypt .... and many more cities.
      Quote: Roman-75
      Although, of course, there is no need to invent anything, no biblical texts should be corroborated - there is UN General Assembly Resolution No. 181 of November 29, 1947, which clearly and clearly defines the division of then Palestine and the creation of a Jewish state

      Well, you see how history is going on? Well, since you are such a lover of UN resolutions, then answer one question to me: Why, doesn’t Israel itself comply with resolution 181, demanding that it be implemented by others?
      1. Pinochet000
        Pinochet000 23 March 2013 16: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Allex28
        Why, then, Israel itself does not comply with resolution 181

        Two-faced creatures because, like the Hebrew and p.ed.do.s.t.s.a.
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 23 March 2013 22: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: Roman-75
      In fact, Jerusalem and Jericho have not gone away, it seems. So, there are very many bindings.

      Quote: Allex28
      By Jerusalem you mean Al-Quds. Jerusalem and Jericho were not found or found, but were appointed in the 19th century.
      "Today, it is believed that biblical Jerusalem is a city located in ancient times on the site of modern Jerusalem, in the African part of the Eastern Mediterranean. It is known, however, that the modern city of Jerusalem began to be called Jerusalem only in the XNUMXth century, after the Egyptian expedition of Napoleon, and before that here there was only a relatively small (due to the almost complete lack of water sources) Arab settlement of Quds. With the renaming of Quds to Jerusalem, historians “authoritatively” tell us that Jerusalem is genuine the ancient name of El Quds, and the name El Quds, they say, was assigned to Jerusalem "by mistake" in the Middle Ages. Allegedly ignorant local Arabs, without suspecting that they live in the famous Jerusalem, called it simply El Quds.

      The Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary at the end of the 4th century provides, in particular, the following curious information about Jerusalem - El-Quds of that time: "Jerusalem (Latin Hierosolyma, in the wedge-shaped inscriptions of Ursalimmu, in the hieroglyphs Schalam, Hebrew. Jeruschalajim, Turkish. Soliman or Turkish Kudsi Scherif, Arabic EI-Kuds, i.e., saint) - the main city of ancient Palestine, now the regional city of Damascus vilayet (governor-general) in Syria (in the Turkish Empire), by the stream of Kedron, on the slopes of three spurs of the Jewish mountains : Acre, Zion, and Moriah: The valleys dividing these spurs were previously quite miserable, but now they are ... inconspicuous.Beyond the valleys - desert terrain, barren bare rocks ... The city ... consists of 1 quarters: 2) Christian ... 3) Armenian ... 4) Jewish ... and 1840) Mohammedan ... with a Pasha’s house, which has been a permanent residence in Jerusalem since 170. The streets are narrow, dirty, badly paved; many of them are deaf; movement on them is possible only on foot or on horseback ... Of the 3 streets there is not one direct or completely comfortable for crew riding. The main street is Damask or Bazarnaya ... There are only 3. Squares. The houses are massive, ugly architecture and small in size, stone or clay, with domed roofs and square courtyards, where there are tanks for collecting rainwater. There is no river or spring water. Http://www.chronologia.org/zabytyj_ierusalim/01_XNUMX.html
      In the 1990s, a school of researchers led by a professor at Tel Aviv University, Israel Finkelstein, took the initiative to revise ideas related to the so-called “united kingdom of David and Solomon”. Offering a new, later dating of many of the monuments attributed to David and Solomon (the so-called “low chronology”), Finkelstein claims that no United Kingdom described in the Bible of the vast and powerful power of David and Solomon never existed. It was invented later, by order of the kings of independent Judea, who, after the destruction of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, sought to substantiate their claims to power and the primacy of their capital - Jerusalem.
      The absence in Jerusalem of monumental architecture of the XNUMXth century BC. and, in general, significant archaeological finds of this period indicate, in the opinion of Finkelstein and his supporters, that David and Solomon were local princes, whose influence did not go beyond the borders of their tribal possessions, and Jerusalem was a "small mountain village." http://www.judaea.ru/hist_news/articles/Nakhodki_v_Gorode_Davida/
    3. Pu239
      Pu239 24 March 2013 02: 53 New
      0
      If you are so worried about the Jews, then why such an avatar?

      PROVOCATOR ????
  • homosum20
    homosum20 23 March 2013 15: 33 New
    +8
    People, where are there so many from? So one more got out! They climb like bugs from an old sofa.
    atalef, yes Assad Sr. did not have them as he wanted. It’s just that everyone didn’t care about this money. We have grain on the road, a marriage of drunkenness, fires from extinguished bonfires burned an order of magnitude more. You see, the system was like that. The money was not mine. The money was folk, i.e. draws. So save them money, break their brains, and Assad is still dripping with the leadership - let him do what he wants. On this wave, the browded order-bearer created the "small land", Andropov caught truants in stores (like children, directly), on it the labeled and then drunk came to power. On the relativity and indifference of the people. (officials, no matter how we dislike them, are also part of our people).
    And this detachment is understandable.
    But what do these mlechins grow on, which are poured on the head of their homeland in haif, London, New York?
  • apro
    apro 23 March 2013 15: 45 New
    +6
    The loss of the core in the form of the country's ideology leads to the emergence of all svanidze cured and late for whom the motherland, like a cash cow and a field for ejecting feces, pays for this elsewhere with other money. And as for the eternal dispute of the Sims, some had more influential and unprincipled sponsors and puppeteers than others, well, wait until the SGA is not up to Israel and we'll see who is thicker there.
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 March 2013 16: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: apro
      The loss of the core in the form of the country's ideology leads to the appearance of all svanidze cured and late

      Yes, they never had any core, one word of the jackals, but otherwise everything is correct. +
  • Vovka levka
    Vovka levka 23 March 2013 15: 51 New
    -4
    Everything is written correctly, the way it is.
    Without the right, there is no economy and what resources you have on the drum. The more resources, the longer the stagnation. People are inherently lazy, and if there is a possibility it does not strain, then we do not strain.
  • elmi
    elmi 23 March 2013 15: 57 New
    +8
    Well, according to the article, a call is made to be friends with Jews, and not with Arabs. And on behalf of Leonid Mlechin to say that the USSR was mistaken in the choice of allies in the Arab world. The article accuses the USSR of delivering weapons to Syria and other Arabs. countries but keep silent as they armed, and now they are arming the Georgian army. And we, together with America, put up protests whenever we are going to sell weapons, even of a defensive plan.
  • Volozhanin
    Volozhanin 23 March 2013 16: 08 New
    +9
    Mlechin is a rare bitch, how can you believe him? He and Svanidze
    twin brothers
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 23 March 2013 16: 17 New
      +4
      Volozhanin "Mlechin is a rare female, how can you believe him? He and Svanidze
      twin brothers "
      It is difficult to disagree with your opinion. Not good they are .. hehe ..
    2. Rustiger
      Rustiger 23 March 2013 16: 23 New
      +7
      Your list is far from complete. . .
      And according to the latest scientific research of "British scientists", pronounce SIONIDZE correctly. laughing
      1. Horde
        Horde 23 March 2013 18: 44 New
        +7
        friend mlechina Georgian Jew Svanidze, well, erysipelas!
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 23 March 2013 19: 01 New
          +9
          "sweet couple" am
          1. AlexW
            AlexW 23 March 2013 19: 10 New
            +3
            Allex28 - I wonder what kind of "fray" -Hebrew, go, inglis ... or still in such a non-kosher "Gus"? laughingKhazarsky is probably forgotten, and did not know .....
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 23 March 2013 19: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: AlexW
              Allex28 - I wonder what kind of "fray" -Hebrew, go, inglis ... or still in such a non-kosher "Gus"?

              There is no difference on which, on any one they have one trash from the mouth. angry
          2. hrych
            hrych 24 March 2013 01: 55 New
            +2
            You think ..., - Her, I do not like Mlechin. He is kind of sweet, tinted all over, powdered like a woman, all like that ... One word - Romanian! Ah, what do you think?
          3. bask
            bask 24 March 2013 09: 48 New
            +5
            Quote: Allex28
            "sweet couple"

            REINCARNATION ....
            1. Horde
              Horde 24 March 2013 10: 29 New
              +1
              REINCARNATION ...


              Hi Andrey! It really looks like laughing the truth is that the anti-Soviet are all one person.
              1. bask
                bask 24 March 2013 16: 12 New
                +4
                Quote: Horde
                It turns out that the anti-Soviet are all one person.

                Hi Horde. One misanthropic ideology. am What they do not have to be like.
            2. Aleks28
              Aleks28 24 March 2013 16: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: bask
              REINCARNATION ....

              So do not believe after that in the relocation of souls belay +
          4. Humpty
            Humpty 24 March 2013 15: 12 New
            +5
            Mlechin and Svanidze are Honored Zionists of Russia.
        2. Rustiger
          Rustiger 23 March 2013 19: 53 New
          +3
          And what the hell is she for me. . .
          And I like you -
          1. sleepy
            sleepy 25 March 2013 00: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: bask
            "REINCARNATION ...."


            Or maybe just a coincidence?
  • Roman 75
    Roman 75 23 March 2013 16: 16 New
    -14
    Quote: Allex28
    Quote: Roman-75
    In fact, Jerusalem and Jericho have not gone away, it seems. So, there are very many bindings.

    By Jerusalem you mean Al-Quds. Jerusalem and Jericho were not found or discovered, but were appointed in the 19th century. And under the concept of Jerusalem, there are a lot of cities that are the capital of Byzantium and the capital of ancient Egypt .... and many more cities.
    Quote: Roman-75
    Although, of course, there is no need to invent anything, no biblical texts should be corroborated - there is UN General Assembly Resolution No. 181 of November 29, 1947, which clearly and clearly defines the division of then Palestine and the creation of a Jewish state

    Well, you see how history is going on? Well, since you are such a lover of UN resolutions, then answer one question to me: Why, doesn’t Israel itself comply with resolution 181, demanding that it be implemented by others?


    Oh, I see.
    Fomenko rulez, huh? I wish you success in the further study of his works (the peasant has led the naive readers, I must admit! I give credit!). hi

    Israel did not fully comply with Resolution No. 181 solely because of the position of the Arabs, who immediately after its adoption stated that they would not recognize this document. First, screams like “throw Jews into the sea!” Began, and then physical attempts to destroy Israel. Here are the Arabs and raked across the face ... And since we are talking about the letter of the law, do not recall who occupied the territories allotted to the UN for the creation of an Arab state, such as, for example, the West Bank?
    By the way, the Israelis (the side is clearly stronger, mind you) have repeatedly demonstrated their readiness to follow the formula "peace in exchange for land." Something not to be seen from the Arabs ...
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 March 2013 16: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: Roman-75
      Fomenko rulez, huh?

      And what does Fomenko have to do with it? Al-Quds came up not with Fomenko, but much earlier. And Jerusalem is not at all a geographical concept, but rather a theological one.
      Quote: Roman-75
      By the way, the Israelis (the side is clearly stronger, mind you) have repeatedly demonstrated their readiness to follow the formula "peace in exchange for land." Something not to be seen from the Arabs ...

      It was smooth on paper, but forgot about Avragi smile It doesn’t go beyond words, or you forgot about Jewish settlements in the west. shore. hi
    2. yak69
      yak69 23 March 2013 16: 55 New
      +5
      Roman 75 - Another apologist for Zionism has appeared !!
      And I chose the appropriate avatar - a swastika. Fascism and Zionism are the children of one father - Satan.

      And only, I beg you, do not talk about the ancient Indian symbolism of the Aryans and other, other! We well know which of the Europeans love the swastika .....
      1. SHOCK.
        SHOCK. 23 March 2013 17: 57 New
        0
        Quote: yak69
        And only, I beg you, do not talk about the ancient Indian symbolism of the Aryans and other, other!

        And you forgive yourself, who is by nationality?
    3. dmb
      dmb 23 March 2013 18: 38 New
      +4
      In Soviet times, there was a very good joke. Assad, Dayan and Kosygin at the reception of the Lord God, who promises to fulfill everyone’s desire. The first two naturally want to destroy each other. Kosygin, inquiring whether their wishes would be fulfilled, asked for a cup of coffee. He's probably right. We have been worried for others for so long that we are tired of it. Do not meddle with us and take Mlechin with a pack of comrades. We have enough of our fools who want to fight for Gazprom and Lukoil. So, if you beat them at home or your neighbors, I personally will not cry and I will not go to the demonstration at your embassy.
      1. sleepy
        sleepy 25 March 2013 00: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: dmb
        "... We have enough of our fools who want to fight for Gazprom and Lukoil ..."


        From the article.
        “... they don’t understand why ... lag behind in economic and social development. After all, they have everything -
        huge territories, huge reserves of oil, gas and other minerals.
        But for some reason, Israel is thriving, and they are lagging behind. ... leaders have no courage to admit that the main problem is
        the inefficiency of the totalitarian leadership ..., the aimless squandering of billions of petrodollars.
        And in this sense, Israel is simply an invaluable find for them, so you can point to it,
        as the main cause of all disasters ...
        True, popular discontent ... still accumulates and, sooner or later, breaks out ...
        And the machinations of foreign imperialism, as they sometimes assure us, have nothing to do with it. "

        We have enough of our problems ...
  • lechatormosis
    lechatormosis 23 March 2013 17: 12 New
    10
    mlechin in Israel, I wept, FINALLY THE COUNTRY MET HIS SON. smile
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 23 March 2013 17: 47 New
      +8
      lekhatormoz -That if he had stayed there .... forever. Yes, Svanidze with Pozner grabbed. Now it would be a holiday — just the same day of Liberation! From the Khazars. fellow
    2. Prokop
      Prokop 23 March 2013 19: 32 New
      +3
      I doubt that this * historian * and * writer * there is perceived as a son, rather as his puppet.
  • Horde
    Horde 23 March 2013 17: 50 New
    16
    “It is very necessary to add about the pernicious harmfulness of the Jews, that is, the Jews, the Judas of the traitors of the world to give the best explanation, in order to give a full explanation of the reasons for their expulsion from Russia by the general definition of all Russian princes in 1113, or else kind readers might form a false opinion about the people. They were expelled, Judas, from Russia for great and evil murders of poisoning the best people, Russian people. And since there is no mention of conscience, honor, or truth of the Jews, letting them back into Russia is an act much worse than treason. May I say that a state or a republic where there are a lot of people they will quickly come to decay or death, the younger ones or the Jews - the seeds of decay, the evil-minded neglect of native customs, good morals everywhere are brought in. They are especially dangerous, natural blood-sucking moneylenders, secret killers and ever-present conspirators for Great Russia. More recently, the Great Russian people are the most courageous on earth, honest and hardworking, but straightforward and sincere, which is a significant obstacle to the recognition of Jews, secret Jesuits and Masons. The immense hospitality of the Russian people. The sim was once used, and may be used in the future, if we or the descendants of our wise Decree of 1742 put V.N.TATISHCHEV 1686-1750 / "
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 24 March 2013 00: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Horde
      Horde

      Dear, and site rules?
      1. Horde
        Horde 24 March 2013 08: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Kaa
        Dear, and site rules?


        Yes, of course, the rules of the site, everyone agreed with them when they got settled, BUT I CAN’T BE SILENT, after all, a Jew Mlechin LIES.
  • dusha233
    dusha233 23 March 2013 19: 05 New
    +4
    When will this column of Judas be branded in Russia in Russia? After all, everyone knows who they are and what they stand for !!!
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses 23 March 2013 21: 12 New
      +1
      Nobody will do this work for us.
      We must unite, there is no other way.
  • amp
    amp 23 March 2013 19: 07 New
    +6
    Another agent of influence licks one place to the West and Israel.
    I don’t understand why we should discuss this nonsense at all?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 23 March 2013 21: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: amp
      Another agent of influence licks one place to the West and Israel.
      I don’t understand why we should discuss this nonsense at all?

      I honestly also don’t understand why Russians are so interested in a state with an area of ​​1 / 2 in the Moscow Region, 2000 km from the southernmost point of the Russian Federation and which in no way threatens the Russian Federation either militarily or economically.
      1. Pinochet000
        Pinochet000 24 March 2013 01: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        I honestly don’t understand either

        What is not understandable here, if you weren’t the whole world ..... if you were simplicity, you wouldn’t be remembered about you ... you would .... neither Hitler nor Arabs, and to us you do .... .take your only ... ALL for
        Quote: Horde
        May I, a state or a republic where there are many lives, quickly come to decay or death, more so, or Jews - the seeds of decay, ill-fated neglect of native customs, good morals everywhere bring
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 01: 28 New
          -1
          Quote: Pinochet000

          What is not understandable here, if you weren’t the whole world ..... if you were simplicity, you wouldn’t be remembered about you ... you would .... neither Hitler nor Arabs, and to us you do .... .take your only ... ALL for
          Quote: Horde
          May I, a state or a republic where there are many lives, quickly come to decay or death, more so, or Jews - the seeds of decay, ill-fated neglect of native customs, good morals everywhere bring

          Am I against it? But so you do not offer it on the site. Go big politics with such an agenda. Take an example from Ukraine. Their “Freedom” sharply intensified the repatriation of Jews to Israel. So success, otherwise on the forum all fingers are bent by the master, but in life "below the grass, quieter than water."
          1. ultra
            ultra 25 March 2013 00: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            They won "Freedom" sharply intensified the repatriation of Jews to Israel
            Thank God in our country the overwhelming majority of normal adequate people and this kind of "party" are not successful! hi
  • 12Ural12
    12Ural12 23 March 2013 19: 13 New
    +3
    Cho can still be expected from a Jew who, in the person of Israel, has a spare landing pad.
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 23 March 2013 19: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: 12Ural12
      Cho can still be expected from a Jew who, in the person of Israel, has a spare landing pad.

      If only in Izrail. Yes, and the Israelites then all have two or three citizenships. At this they’re swaggering, they’re “shekel” for it. And if it comes to a serious matter, the "promised land" will be empty. They know very well that Iran is still far from the atomic bomb, but it could well be a dirty one and more than a hundred. And the vaunted "iron dome" will also help to evenly distribute radioactive contamination throughout the "vast" territory of Izrail. It is the Ukrainians with Belarus who do not abandon the land of their ancestors, and the Jews will rush to alternate airfields. Like 2 thousand years ago. In the 86th after Chernobyl in Kiev, the Podil district instantly emptied. The Kievites joked: "They could not catch up - they wanted to give them medals" For the liberation of Kiev! " laughing For them, the motherland is where they feel good.
  • 120352
    120352 23 March 2013 19: 31 New
    +1
    Arabs' envy of Israel, of course, does occur. But let's not talk about the consequences, but about the causes. And the reason is the Koran’s lies and deceitfulness of all Islam.
  • AlexW
    AlexW 23 March 2013 19: 36 New
    0
    amp -Do not take them so seriously. Khazaritans work out soldering laughing
  • AlexW
    AlexW 23 March 2013 19: 57 New
    +3
    Quote: Prokop
    I doubt that this * historian * and * writer * there is perceived as a son, rather as his puppet.

    Yeah, the Caschenazi they have there, something like a "lower grade" laughing Gusinsky, when he managed to straighten out his papers, that he was supposedly a descendant of Sephardim, he threw such a banquet-three days a can-can-can-dance fellow Still, I would fall into the highest category.
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 23 March 2013 19: 57 New
    +3
    Probably Mlechin just did not transfer the money on time, he went, reminded of his existence. And Svanidze is listed on time. In general, these two frames are bo-o-big !!!!!!!!!!
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 23 March 2013 20: 04 New
    0
    I won’t figure out what kind of petrodollars cars the author found in Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Egypt. And autonomy is almost completely subsidized.
  • bulvas
    bulvas 23 March 2013 20: 15 New
    +4
    Why are you so crazy? Like women in the market
    The article is about Arabs, not about Russia. Or they still did not understand the essence of the Arabs - to do nothing, and dream that they would be given virgins in paradise. Of course, they envy all nations, where women and other benefits are available during their lifetime. Or forgot about the Arab caliphate and where are its borders? Or where did the idea come from the bulk of the heroin that kills youth in Russia?
    The crowd, shouting out who is louder, all nonsense and plus each other
    1. Rustiger
      Rustiger 24 March 2013 02: 12 New
      0
      http://newspark.net.ua/politics/xabad-lyubavich-razvivaet-narkobiznes-dlya-chego
      / # more-9765

      Here it is about heroin. . .
    2. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 24 March 2013 04: 06 New
      0
      So of the two evils, the lesser is always chosen.
    3. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 24 March 2013 04: 09 New
      0
      Quote: bulvas
      Why are you so crazy?


      So of the two evils, the lesser is always chosen.
  • bazillius
    bazillius 23 March 2013 20: 24 New
    +3
    After the movie of Mlechin about the Katyn case, he generally does not have faith. Yes, by the way, and in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation there is still an article "about giving false information"? something Lenya Mlechin relaxed: he is lying on a global scale. By the way, his milk brother in the workshop of Svanidze, too, let him dry crackers.
  • Rustiger
    Rustiger 23 March 2013 20: 48 New
    +6
    Comrades !!!
    The latest news from the TV viewer.
    Berezovsky bit his flippers.
    Rrrrrazlivaaaay !!!!!!! drinks drinks drinks
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 23 March 2013 20: 58 New
      +2
      And in more detail you can?
    2. Imperial
      Imperial 23 March 2013 21: 14 New
      +4
      Eh ma, I’ll go button accordion, no two, two button accordion tear.
  • Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov 23 March 2013 20: 53 New
    +2
    Well, in something the man is really right. You can say anything about Jews, only the fact remains that they made the most civilized state in the BV. With a powerful high-tech economy. An army that can really be called an army. And which does not coward Je in front of the superior forces of the enemy because it defends the homeland, and more they really have no nichrome. And they did all this without oil on a virtually bare desert. And the Arabs who lived for centuries in the gamna and will live as much. But they are Orthodox Muslims raping their own daughters and sons. Then anyone will begin to envy. What can I say, I personally wonder how they still have not worked out an inferiority complex. But the Jews, too, to put it mildly, are wrong that what they do with the Palestinians does not go into any gates. In fact, the seizure of land was? Was! Was there genocide? Was! So here everyone is good, both Jews and Arabs. But I personally feel much closer to the Jews than the stupid Islamist fanatics whose brains are still in the 14th century.
    1. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 24 March 2013 04: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
      So here everyone is good and Jews and Arabs


      That's it, that everyone is good. For me, let them eat each other, and we will wait and see who will take it. For me, both of them are oiled in one world.

      Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
      And they did all this without oil


      Why do they need oil when they have all the world's cash.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov 24 March 2013 20: 42 New
        0
        That's it, that everyone is good. For me, let them eat each other, and we will wait and see who will take it. For me, both of them are oiled in one world.


        Right.

        Why do they need oil when they have all the world's cash.


        Do not smash the garbage.
  • optimist
    optimist 23 March 2013 21: 01 New
    +3
    Better let's recall the history and place of Jews in the Russian Empire and the USSR. Just in case, I’ll briefly remind you: in RI these guys could not be officers (only crosses), they did not have the right to be merchants above the 2nd guild and could not rise above the college assessor’s rank (the lowest rank in Peter's “ranking table”). I hope everyone remembers about their place in the USSR. Well, now compare their position in business and government. Compared with them, mlechin and Svanidze are small ch.m.oshniki with dirty buttocks ....
  • Zen
    Zen 23 March 2013 21: 18 New
    +5
    Berezovsky died, what a joy!
  • Mironk
    Mironk 23 March 2013 21: 29 New
    -11
    Well, the menagerie is here! A bunch of losers and impotent people, you envy Israel more than any Arabs, turned your country into a garbage dump and stupidly blather about what you cannot comprehend with your frail brains.
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 23 March 2013 22: 01 New
      +5
      MironK - "in silence, somewhere from a far corner there was a serpentine hiss" (C) Yes, don’t suffer like that. Go to the “Ear of something there” or “Newspaper. Vru” -so all yours are already there. Read something clever about the "arrow of the oscilloscope", by sunset "\\\\\\\" -and you feel better right away laughing
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 22: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: AlexW
        You still feel better laughing.

        Well, you give him such doctoral advice just like living, let him fight here with us, maybe in the regiment of Borukh Berezovsky he will be on Miron alone.
    2. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 24 March 2013 04: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: MironK
      turned their country into trash


      So you turned, not us.
    3. BIGLESHIY
      BIGLESHIY 24 March 2013 15: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: MironK
      Well, the menagerie is here! A bunch of losers and impotent people, you envy Israel more than any Arabs, turned your country into a garbage dump and stupidly blather about what you cannot comprehend with your frail brains.

      Mouth close Guidon Bibany
  • Dyagilev
    Dyagilev 23 March 2013 21: 30 New
    -2
    Whatever they say, it will not occur to the Jews to shoot guns at Buddhist or Christian shrines.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 22: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Dyagilev
      Whatever they say, it will not occur to the Jews to shoot guns at Buddhist or Christian shrines.

      Yes, compared with the Jews, these destroyers of shrines are just angels.
      1. wanderer
        wanderer 23 March 2013 23: 56 New
        -6
        Quote: cherkas.oe
        Quote: Dyagilev
        Whatever they say, it will not occur to the Jews to shoot guns at Buddhist or Christian shrines.

        Yes, compared with the Jews, these destroyers of shrines are just angels.

        in even how !! This is love for bahabists, it’s breathtaking!
        1. SHOCK.
          SHOCK. 24 March 2013 04: 31 New
          +3
          Quote: wanderer
          in even how !! This is love for bahabists, it’s breathtaking!


          Two poles, but the essence is the same. Both of them are destroyers of our culture.
  • Sergey47
    Sergey47 23 March 2013 21: 32 New
    +3
    I always knew that the author of Mr. ..... yes. And also Svanidze, a disgusting couple. With my own hands I would strangle both.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 23 March 2013 21: 49 New
      -5
      Quote: Sergey47
      I always knew that the author of Mr. ..... yes. And also Svanidze, a disgusting couple. With my own hands I would strangle both.

      And who's stopping? You are a hero, go ahead! soldier
      1. Mironk
        Mironk 23 March 2013 22: 28 New
        -6
        Aaron Zawi
        He is a hero, click on the clave and dignified people with mud. Nothing.
      2. Rustiger
        Rustiger 24 March 2013 00: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: TUMAN
        Quote: MironK
        You are a slave, not a Slav, and you think like a slave, you are not capable of anything, ZERO!

        You are a half-Jewish man, in Israel you do not pull on a full-fledged one, and that is why you are spraying saliva here! In principle, you are nobody, so the local semi-Jewish “cute,” sacrificial ram, for the next Holocaust! You still haven't been sterilized?

        So come try it. hi A visa is not needed today.

        I would come. And will you come with me kupazsta in the evening to the shore of Haifa?
        I will reveal my whole rich inner world, figuratively draw pictures from the history of the Russian / Soviet fleet and the prospects for its development, and Aron, in gratitude, gurgles me in response. Last time . . .
        It is not our seas, rivers, lakes and basins that can be trashed.
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 24 March 2013 01: 02 New
          -1
          Quote: Rustiger
          Rustiger

          Respected Rustiger, I understand the whole storm of emotions, but your last comment can theoretically be regarded as a threat to the interlocutor, which is not welcomed by the rules of the site. The above-mentioned No. 1 and No. 3 provoke visitors to emotional actions (stormy applause on the Promised Land) for a long time and not without success, therefore I do not address them with questions of tolerance of statements. If you are offended by their words, add them to the emergency situations, if you want to continue the discussion, please lead it without hidden hints, or in PM. hi
          1. Rustiger
            Rustiger 24 March 2013 01: 58 New
            +1
            I agree. Accepted! hi
            But in PM, I’m sad to whisper with such people, what about trolling in the "interests of the Mossad" - we will take into account.
            Yours!
            1. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 24 March 2013 02: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Rustiger

              Rustaig

              You know Semenov such a saying: - "There is no bolder fighter in the world than a frightened Jew." So do not scare him ahead of time.
              1. Rustiger
                Rustiger 24 March 2013 15: 48 New
                +1
                You know Semenov such a saying: - "There is no bolder fighter in the world than a frightened Jew." So do not scare him ahead of time.

                I heard it. I won’t. And then you get a "scared bear"? laughing
                Why do you need him?
          2. BIGLESHIY
            BIGLESHIY 27 March 2013 14: 19 New
            -1
            Quote: Kaa
            The above-mentioned No. 1 and No. 3 provoke visitors to emotional actions (stormy applause on the Promised Land) for a long time and not without success, therefore I do not address them with questions of tolerance of statements.

            Why, then, do not ban? By your inaction, you instill a sense of impunity in them, and in some, hostility towards the representatives of the “chosen people”.
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 24 March 2013 01: 18 New
          -3
          Quote: Rustiger
          a lot of words. Come over. And we'll see.
  • AlexW
    AlexW 23 March 2013 21: 40 New
    +1
    “Today Boris Berezovsky died in his house in London” - what a pity, I dreamed of seeing a photo of this nits in a wheelchair in a dirty house for elderly beggars.
    1. Imperial
      Imperial 23 March 2013 21: 53 New
      +4
      Boris Berezovsky is terminally ill
      Lying in bed, barely breathing
      London alarmed, mourning Tbilisi
      Victory parade is being prepared in Moscow

      Akhmed Zakayev comes in quietly
      Goes to the living room right in the shoes.
      Artists sob on soft sofas
      Singers, musicians and journalists

      Tall grandmother in a blue handkerchief
      Gradually knit a shroud
      Man in a beret with a goatee
      Sings a sad song to the guitar

      Carry a telegram marked "urgent"
      Health wishes Saakashvili
      Can't come, business in Borjomi
      But Berezovsky is worse and worse

      Bad in Kiev, terrible in Tbilisi
      Aslan killed, there will be no peace
      Boris Berezovsky groans in bed
      And suffocating from unfreedom

      Gusinsky suffers in Khodorkovsky prison
      Kasyanov kicked out of the house
      Thrown by Garry Kasparov
      Russia dies under the oppression of a tyrant

      Lenya Nevzlin bursts into the bedroom
      The last honest Jew on the planet
      Leni Nevzlin has three projects
      But Berezovsky is not able to listen

      Last few breaths left
      How hard it is to die abroad
      It was so wrong
      By making this pig president

      Today in Russia, on Channel One
      Katya Andreeva in formal clothes
      Lay out papers, look anxious
      And he will say: Boris Berezovsky died

      Take off your hats, pour vodka
      Turn down the volume of Russian radio
      History page turned upside down
      Today Boris Berezovsky died
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 24 March 2013 01: 05 New
        +2
        Who will collect the money for quality utilization, comrades?
        We rent more actively. . . laughing laughing laughing
  • Rumata
    Rumata 23 March 2013 21: 49 New
    -1
    Yes, this resource will not save anything. Articles mentioning Jews, Caucasians, "ov", "gay Europeans," n Indos "
    (underline necessary) gaining many times more comments than about tanks or planes. No wonder, adequate visitors are appearing less and less, and the xenophobic fraternity operates according to the good old system of “leading each other”. Once a good site turned into a cesspool, Jews are also to blame for this 100%
    1. wax
      wax 23 March 2013 21: 59 New
      +4
      If you subtract the comments of the Jews, then "one time" will not be. And about the fact that as soon as the Jews enter into polemics, the discussion turns into a sophisticated cesspool, then this is really a fact. This does not apply to all the people of Israel.
    2. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 22: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Rumata
      100% Jews are also to blame

      And n-hell to climb here and the site would not have deteriorated.
    3. Imperial
      Imperial 23 March 2013 23: 04 New
      +3
      Just do not need xenophobia, do you know Newton’s third law? Now reap.
    4. AlexW
      AlexW 23 March 2013 23: 06 New
      +1
      Rumata - What about the font? We didn’t say anything about the font. Or maybe the color scheme doesn’t suit you? Usually your fellow tribesmen have a little claim to calligraphy. Taki Vi do not hesitate - feel free to cut the "truth-uterus".
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 24 March 2013 01: 00 New
        0
        AlexW
        Yes, they will not answer. This is called "throwing beads in front of ...." Well, you get the point. . .
        It is clear to everyone that after their "throwing beads" the site has to be aired for a long time.
        And articles about ebray act like a litmus test. Often the bizarre get in jBAN. . .
  • optimist
    optimist 23 March 2013 22: 00 New
    0
    Involuntarily, you will think that in at least one question "comrade" Hitler was right .... laughing
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 23 March 2013 22: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Wax
      If you subtract the comments of the Jews, then "one time" will not be. And about the fact that as soon as the Jews enter into polemics, the discussion turns into a sophisticated cesspool, then this is really a fact. This does not apply to all the people of Israel.

      Give a link to the comment causing this reaction -
      Quote: optimist
      Involuntarily you think that in at least one question "comrade" Hitler was right .... laughing

      On any other resource, this is permaban, right there it will also get pluses, it will earn an asterisk ...
      Reread the comments, Israel and the Jews were poured shit about 50 times before those who did not agree appeared. If any mention of Jews in the article, even briefly, turns into browning of the threshing floor, then this speaks volumes ...
    2. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 23 March 2013 22: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: optimist
      Involuntarily, you will think that in at least one question "comrade" Hitler was right ...

      Don’t say anything stupid, please. What can you say bad about Jews such as MIL, HARITON, LAVOCHKIN, GAFT, etc. but unfortunately there is Makarevich, Yarmolnik, Guzman. But it’s impossible, even because of a bunch of goats, to kill some people,
  • optimist
    optimist 23 March 2013 22: 03 New
    +3
    PS Good news: the representative of the "God chosen" people Berezovsky died in London !!!
  • luka095
    luka095 23 March 2013 22: 38 New
    0
    Colleagues, why such an emotional discussion of a note? Well, Mlechin (not a writer, not a historian, not a documentary filmmaker ....) did another "masterpiece". Did he surprise anyone with this? Or did someone expect patriotic works from him? This is one of the clips that works against one’s own people and country.
    And about who has more rights to the territory of Israel, Lebanon, Syria and other countries. In history, you can, if you want, find what you need.
    By the way, these lands were part of the empire of Alexander the Great. And now, the Greeks show their rights? Or maybe the Cypriots - they need money now ...
  • воронов
    воронов 24 March 2013 00: 55 New
    +2
    It has long been known that Mlechin is an agent of influence of Amer, NATO and the Jews
  • harrymur
    harrymur 24 March 2013 01: 45 New
    +1
    обыкновенный жирный троль-http://lurkmore.to/%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D1%8C
    a journalist earns a pension
    and on the topic, Israel came up with two monsters of the ussr and usa, and they did it on a businesslike basis, pinching, patting each other in korea and aposly in vietnam, afghan, but damn they forgot that the veterans of the 2nd world and our WWII got there, and for them the war whenever it ends, and estimate they stupidly took it and took it from the Arabs in battle, and by their means means by right, the promised land-grail for which there is a war since the time of Christ, in 2012, and why is it okay to kill an Arab is normal, and go to Russian or Amer or Israel is a sin,
    right now, Cyprus is seething, before that Greece, Spain and who steers, again the country created by the Russians and the Amer-frg, and after all, the Thatcher and the Franks were against the unification of the Germans, this is their 2nd world Chechnya and the Germans have brought horror to the concentration camps, and to hell with whom they will give industrial production and the Eurobank,
    where is our place in this world, that’s the question
  • ausguck
    ausguck 24 March 2013 05: 03 New
    -1
    What is this propaganda article? am
  • Klim
    Klim 24 March 2013 10: 34 New
    0
    I can’t understand who warmed this bastard on the TV Center? And when the propaganda of all these anti-Russian magazines ends on the central channels. ?
  • Humpty
    Humpty 24 March 2013 11: 07 New
    0
    Jews in Palestine are like Albanians in Kosovo.
    They ran in as refugees, got used to it a bit and drove out the owners.
  • Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 24 March 2013 13: 04 New
    0
    Even though Mlechin is now Netanyahu’s Minister of Ultranationalist Government: such-and-such Arabs envy beautiful Jews. Whether this cunning-wise journalist recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to an independent state / as defined by a UN resolution / is NOT WORD. So the Palestinians should rejoice in the Israeli occupation of their lands.
  • dropout
    dropout 24 March 2013 13: 45 New
    0
    Somehow cleverly happened. Mlechin with an article, Berezovsky forever.

    Maybe Svanidze publish, someone else next.
  • arnulla
    arnulla 24 March 2013 14: 15 New
    0
    Who put this mlechina on the site?
  • BIGLESHIY
    BIGLESHIY 24 March 2013 15: 09 New
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi

    The USSR and the Russian Federation are far from the same thing.

    Yeah, and how to give the state debt of the USSR so the same thing am
  • bask
    bask 24 March 2013 16: 27 New
    0
    Quote: bask
    Quote: Horde
    It turns out that the anti-Soviet are all one person.

    Hi Pavel .. One misanthropic ideology. am What they do not have to be like.