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Did the Ukrainian military lose their armed battle dolphins during training?

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Did the Ukrainian military lose their armed battle dolphins during training?



Employees of the State Oceanarium Research Center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost three combat dolphins with firearms attached to them during training on the high seas, the report of the head of the center turned out to be for journalists.

The training of dolphins, held 24 February in the open sea at the site number 7, was attended by five mammals equipped with sets of IOU-75-03 (individual firearm, which is mounted on the head of the dolphin), transmit the "Events of Crimea".

During training, three dolphins, despite the precautions taken, left the site with attached firearms ready to use. The staff for four hours trying to detect missing dolphins by visual observation, but to no avail.

In connection with the incident, the leadership of the center asked the command fleet give permission to conduct sonar searches to return dolphins to the base.

The press center of the Naval Forces of Ukraine refused to comment on this information.

As the newspaper VIEW, reported in October last year, the Ukrainian military announced the resumption of training of combat dolphins. Mammals were trained under the combat program of attacks on underwater saboteurs and ships; for this purpose, a knife or a pistol was attached to the dolphin’s head. The main task of the animals was the detection of objects under water.

In January of this year, the staff of the State Aquarium in Sevastopol developed a new methodology for combat dolphins and began training 10 mammals to perform special tasks of the Ukrainian military fleet.

According to experts, fighting dolphins could help to ensure the safety of the location of the Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy in the waters of the Sevastopol bays. There are only two combat dolphin training centers in the world so far - this is the San Diego base in the USA and Sevastopol.

In Sevastopol, the dolphins for the needs of the then Soviet Navy began to cook with 1973 year. Specially trained animals found weapon and military equipment at the bottom of the sea, could attack the combat swimmers and enemy ships with weapons and explosives fixed on their heads. After the collapse of the USSR and the division of the Black Sea Fleet, the military unit in which combat dolphins were trained was transferred to the Ukrainian side, and the dolphins began to be used for peaceful purposes, in particular for the treatment of disabled children.

Data on Russian programs for the use of animals in the interests of the Navy were not disclosed.



The season of horror stories about Crimea started: fighting dolphins on the high seas

In Crimea, with the approaching holiday season, the season of traditional horror stories opens - today a number of media outlets received anonymous letters, the author of which claims that armed fighting dolphins fled from a military base in Sevastopol and attaches a report from the head of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Research Center. This “document” to the email received and the site “Crimea. Comments”.
In particular, the document states that February 24 conducted training dolphins in the open sea. 5 dolphins equipped with IOW-75-03 sets (an individual firearm mounted on the animal's head) took part in the training.

Contrary to the precautionary measures, three dolphins left the water area of ​​the site, having firearms ready for use. The personnel of the scientific center, which was on site, for four hours tried to locate the missing dolphins by visual observation, but without success.
“In connection with the incident, the leadership of the center asks the fleet command to give permission to conduct echolocation searches in order to return the dolphins to the base, which requires additional forces and technical equipment. I also ask you to conduct an official investigation of the incident, ”the report says.



However, as it turned out, this document and everything stated in it is nothing more than a “duck”. In the Research Center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "State Oceanarium" over this news they simply laughed and said that they didn’t have such dolphins at all.
“Any devices of IVP-75? We do not even know what it is. We have no idea what it is - IVP-75-03. And the date chosen - February 24, Sunday, when all normal people rest. For some reason, we should work at this time, ”said Anatoly Gorbachev, director of the State Aquarium Research Center of Ukraine’s Armed Forces. - This is pure fiction. In order to lose something, you have to have it, but we have them (dolphins - ed.) And there is no trace. This is pure provocation someone throws, we have a guess. In the spring, such a thing was thrown once, now again. ”

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  1. Vadivak
    Vadivak 12 March 2013 08: 52
    +7
    Well, how will revenge begin? Although probably spring worked
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 12 March 2013 08: 56
      +3
      rebels will appear) Soon they will be glad to take the storm)
      1. crazyrom
        crazyrom 13 March 2013 00: 34
        0
        Look at the signature of the document, and here Gorbachev crap.
    2. mamba
      mamba 12 March 2013 09: 24
      0
      Quote: Vadivak
      probably spring worked

      Meltwater is very helpful in increasing testosterone levels. Therefore, we are waiting for a duel because of females between armed males of dolphins using firearms. laughing
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 12 March 2013 13: 40
        0
        Dolphins from Dagestan?)
    3. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 12 March 2013 09: 29
      +8
      Have you tried feeding dolphins?
    4. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 12 March 2013 09: 33
      +3
      Laughed in the morning, thank you!) I was going to the Crimea, to rest, I have to go to Gelendzhik again)
      1. alexng
        alexng 12 March 2013 10: 34
        +1
        And for dolphins this is not the distance Sevastopol - Gelendzhik, so a walk and a training session in a dash under water. So if it is destined to get under the train, then the tram will not move anyhow. laughing
        1. ShturmKGB
          ShturmKGB 12 March 2013 11: 44
          0
          Then they can be specially trained to spoil the Olympics in Sochi? request
    5. kris
      kris 12 March 2013 11: 31
      +2
      The Sevastopol Military Aquarium in Cossack Bay achieved the most notable results in the creation and operation of biotechnological systems. Dolphins were trained to find torpedoes, mines and other sunken military ammunition at depths of up to 120 m and were adapted for helicopter landing. These animals were trained to guard the water area of ​​the naval base of Sevastopol.

      One of the main tasks of working with dolphins was to teach them to find various kinds of objects under water, both moving in the water column and lying. The area of ​​Laspi Ch Batiliman was chosen as the venue for the training expeditions. The first, organized in the summer of 1971, was called Laspi-71 +, although it was based on one of Batiliman's beaches. Four tents, a network enclosure for four dolphins, a coaching group This is the whole training base. And only preliminary tasks were solved: establishing active, fearless contact with dolphins (the procedure for capturing animals remained quite cruel), working out the simplest types of aportations, learning to respond to a hydroacoustic signaling device. We have already worked with tamed animals that have spent some time in the open-air cages of the Cossack Bay. The second expedition, Laspi-72, was better organized, and the tasks were more serious: the release of dolphins into the sea, escort of the leader boat, etc. After in 1974 the dolphin Hercules for the first time in Russian history discovered and marked the sunken torpedo at a depth of 51 meters, the Main Headquarters of the Navy decided to create a dolphin special forces to search for sunken samples of military equipment, to assist divers in underwater search and rescue operations. In the spring of 1983, practical exercises took place: a mine was hidden from a dolphin throughout the bay: once it was buried even under the side of a sunken ship. The result exceeded the wildest expectations: Titan detected the target in a matter of minutes.
      From 1979 to 1994, dolphins discovered objects worth about 50 million rubles, which was many times higher than the cost of their maintenance. Search biotechnological system (BTS) operated where search in other ways was impossible or ineffective. This is shallow water, a complex profile of the soil, low visibility under water, flow, the search for weapons under the soil and masked, acoustically transparent charges. They also brought bottlenose dolphins to detect combat targets - such as a wetsuit, a diver in equipment, a diver on an underwater vehicle such as Proteus, a mine suction cup, spray can, and scuba gear. In the Great Sevastopol Bay, near the Konstantinovsky ravelin, four floating stands and the same number of radio-acoustic buoys - RSL were built. And at the very top of the ravelin - the command post, where there was an installation that allows you to monitor the stands and the underwater range on the monitor. The duty at the command post was carried out 24 hours a day. The sailors deployed a computer system with a television display of the situation. Having noticed a suspicious object on the surface of the sea or in depth, the dolphin had to transmit the corresponding signal to the central console. And the coach decided what to do. Whether to order to push this “something” to the surface, to unmask, to send a high-speed armed boat to interception or to neutralize the assault. At that time, there was already a killer underwater weapon for animals - from pistols to machine guns: a powerful tri-barrel with a dolphin nose easily hit the target with 12-caliber bullets at a distance of 20 meters. The probability of failure-free operation of the anti-sabotage BTS was estimated at 80-90 percent, which is significantly higher than that of the adopted special equipment.

      After the collapse of the USSR, almost all animals, together with the leading trainer (captain 1 rank Zhurid B.A.) and unique equipment were taken to Iran (Iranian Scientific Center for the Study of the Persian Gulf, the Mediterranean and Black Seas) to continue scientific and military research .
  2. Denis
    Denis 12 March 2013 08: 52
    +15
    Maybe dolphins do not want to join NATO?
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 March 2013 08: 55
      +3
      Quote: ...
      dolphins began to be used for peaceful purposes, in particular for the treatment of children with disabilities.


      That's right, why tyranny the animal
  3. JonnyT
    JonnyT 12 March 2013 08: 53
    +6
    They got a secret mission and sailed away to fulfill it !! laughing
    1. polly
      polly 12 March 2013 09: 15
      0
      Yes, not ... Sold by damned pits ... laughing laughing laughing
  4. Chukcha
    Chukcha 12 March 2013 08: 53
    +1
    Duck ..))) quack-quack)))

    http://crimea.comments.ua/news/2013/03/11/171243.html
    1. Akim
      Akim 12 March 2013 09: 09
      +4
      I agree. As the season approaches, such a "war" begins. Either in Odessa a container with sea snakes will be lost, then something else

      IVP-75-03
      1. gladiatorakz
        gladiatorakz 12 March 2013 10: 43
        +1
        Quote: Akim
        I agree. As the season approaches, such a "war" begins. Either in Odessa a container with sea snakes will be lost, then something else

        Break the holiday season by any means. laughing It happened before. And every year again. In Crimea, fighting dolphins, in Berdyansk cholera, in Odessa, a criminal rampant. Closer to summer, you will see articles about evil Ukrainian customs officers and traffic cops. And about total Russophobia. laughing
        1. huut
          huut 12 March 2013 11: 08
          +1
          Quote: gladiatorakz
          And about total Russophobia.

          A guy from Kiev went to Moscow to relax. He arrived, he says, people in Moscow are very responsive, constantly asking how to get somewhere - they always tried to help, no one waved off. In general, he liked the city and population.
          He said that he was pleasantly surprised, they said otherwise.
          A smiley face after "total Russophobia" means a joke)
          1. gladiatorakz
            gladiatorakz 12 March 2013 12: 53
            0
            Quote: huut
            He arrived, he says, people in Moscow are very responsive, constantly asking how to get somewhere - they always tried to help, no one waved off. In general, he liked the city and population.

            I was in Moscow, St. Petersburg last time a couple of years ago. People are absolutely the same as in Kiev, Zaporozhye, Lviv. The vast majority of decent, responsive people.
            Quote: huut
            A smiley face after "total Russophobia" means a joke)

            Smiley means joy that the attempts to pit Russians and Ukrainians, to set each other up, to arouse hostility towards Ukrainians accusing them of Russophobia do not find support from the vast majority of people. laughing
            1. huut
              huut 12 March 2013 14: 16
              -1
              Quote: gladiatorakz
              Smiley means joy in the fact that attempts to pit Russians and Ukrainians ... do not find support from the absolute majority

              Yes, and eliminate these attempts, otherwise they can reach the majority.
              The example shows that enough negative stuffed into the head. And if he had not gone? There would not be a very good opinion. Erroneous. But not everyone can go.

              Many people think that in Ukraine there are now only Nazis. And they don’t plan to go there to rest ...
              1. Akim
                Akim 12 March 2013 15: 07
                +2
                Quote: huut
                Many people think that in Ukraine there are now only Nazis.

                Yeah, and everyone has a Badera portrait above the bed wassat
                I understand this is politics, but if people watched Segodnya on NTV and Vesti on RTR less, there would be much less negative.
  5. Mikhado
    Mikhado 12 March 2013 08: 56
    0
    The situation is as in the saying "Both laughter and sin".
    They would simply run away "naked" - one could even be glad for the poor fellows. And so - let's hope that the tragedy with the victims will not happen, there is time before the swimming season.
  6. Trailer
    Trailer 12 March 2013 08: 58
    +6
    What a ridiculous death if any of the tourists ... a dolphin shoots.
  7. fenix57
    fenix57 12 March 2013 08: 59
    +1
    So they didn't feed the little animals, so they went to "earn". The animals are very smart ... what to expect ....? hi
    1. mamba
      mamba 12 March 2013 09: 34
      +2
      Quote: fenix57
      So they didn't feed the little animals, so they went to "earn". The animals are very smart ... what to expect ....?

      Dolphin trainers believe that it is not they who teach these animals, but dolphins that teach people how to deal with marine animals. So smart they are. Therefore, they could figure out that the Russian Navy would be more fed, and the lord would be replaced. laughing
    2. slvevg
      slvevg 12 March 2013 11: 18
      +1
      Ukrainian dolphins also went to guest workers? Where this time? what
  8. tun1313
    tun1313 12 March 2013 09: 00
    0
    At first the plane was shot down, now ships and divers will be drowned, I certainly understand the communication problems under water, but we can still have some kind of gps trackers or something for the appropriate conditions. still such a dolphin is worth a lot.
  9. Apollo
    Apollo 12 March 2013 09: 00
    +4
    Good morning everybody! hi

    quote-Data on Russian programs for the use of animals in the interests of the Navy were not disclosed.

    More than sure that Russia as a maritime power has such a program and is implementing it.

    quote-In the world there are only two training centers for fighting dolphins so far - this is the San Diego base in the USA ......

    if there is one in the United States, it will certainly exist in Russia. It always exists and will be. As far as disclosure is concerned, it is not necessary, and there is such a thing as military secret.
    1. tun1313
      tun1313 12 March 2013 09: 14
      0
      Well, right, so that this is not printed.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 12 March 2013 09: 26
      +1
      Apollo, hi
      Quote: Apollon
      if in the USA there is then in Russia for sure. There is always and will be parity.

      It seems to me like a military experiment is interesting, but how real power is doubtful. Too expensive and troublesome, in certain conditions, of course, it can be effective, but it is not suitable for widespread use.
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 12 March 2013 11: 22
      +2
      Good morning, Apollo and all respected members of the forum.
      The fact that this is a duck was immediately clear. We have long lamented that all dolphins were sold to water parks for the show, because there is no money for their maintenance and research work. There was an article about this a year ago.
      If such programs are underway in Russia, this is wonderful! Dolphins are always ready to help sailors!
  10. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 12 March 2013 09: 02
    +6
    I read everything. But what would the armed dolphins dumped laughing Olympics in Sochi in jeopardy laughing
    1. avt
      avt 12 March 2013 09: 32
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I read everything. But so that the armed dolphins would dump the laughing Olympics in Sochi under the threat of disruption

      Well no . The guest workers, the damn ones, decided to go to the Olympics in the Sesurity. Again, the Bearded man flew by with work. laughing
  11. atalef
    atalef 12 March 2013 09: 03
    +1
    During training, three dolphins, despite the precautions taken, left the site with attached firearms ready for use.

  12. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 12 March 2013 09: 04
    +4
    Dolphins are smarter than humans; conscience does not allow them to fight for goons.
  13. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 12 March 2013 09: 09
    +10
    dolphins protest against calling cruisers in circles am
    1. mamba
      mamba 12 March 2013 09: 42
      +2
      Quote: Vrungel78
      dolphins protest against calling cruisers in circles

      And also against national terminology for IOU-75-03 - an individual firearm device that is mounted on a dolphin's head:
      Individual vnepnepalny pristriy, a kind of hovering on the head of a dolphin. laughing
  14. Lissyara
    Lissyara 12 March 2013 09: 10
    0
    People!
    No jokes, but still the Black Sea is a recreation area. It is not known what else this could turn out to be. (((
  15. uralkos
    uralkos 12 March 2013 09: 12
    -2
    Even dolphins run away from them. They probably forgot that dolphins do not eat fat.)))
    1. mamba
      mamba 12 March 2013 09: 45
      0
      Quote: uralkos
      They probably forgot that dolphins do not eat fat.)))

      They can only gobble up soaked in fish oil, but all the same then diarrhea will torment. laughing
  16. Bosk
    Bosk 12 March 2013 09: 17
    +1
    This time, other zhurnalyugi bent over an adult ... they themselves at least understood what they wrote or they still live by the principle that people will gobble up everything ...
  17. Evgeny_Lev
    Evgeny_Lev 12 March 2013 09: 27
    0
    PPC, how do we lose at sea to swim?))
    And how will the dolphins eat? (((
    1. in reserve
      12 March 2013 10: 13
      -1

      Evgeny_Lev
      PPC, how do we lose at sea to swim?))


      Afraid of being shot. bully
  18. zao74
    zao74 12 March 2013 09: 27
    0
    Yes, some nonsense that they can not find. Are there really no signal devices on the equipment? I will never believe this, because it was not a combat mission, but training.
  19. not good
    not good 12 March 2013 10: 01
    +2
    But how cool it sounds, not some Egyptian shark bit a tourist, but a dolphin killer shot laughing
  20. 123dv
    123dv 12 March 2013 10: 04
    0
    And look who signed the paper.
    Everything is clear and clear right away.
  21. Aeneas
    Aeneas 12 March 2013 10: 26
    +5
    the paper is well written. Confused by the lack of indentation in paragraphs, and this does not meet state standards for conducting business correspondence. These state standards are fond of being respected by staff bureaucrats. Well, there are no incoming-outgoing details. Mdaa, and the line spacing of the recipient is too big. Vopschem need to download state standards in an Internet (they are not secret), and isho little practice to train on combat mutants grown MOU at the former long-distance communications station near Pripyat.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 12 March 2013 14: 58
      +1
      Quote: Aeneas
      the paper is well written. Confused by the lack of indentation in paragraphs, and this does not meet state standards for conducting business correspondence. These state standards are fond of being respected by staff bureaucrats


      And the signature of A.A. Gorbachev evokes certain associations .. Well, you can’t let a person with such a surname to dolphins and close to close. They will starve to death from food on coupons and from empty counters shops feeders
  22. krokodil25
    krokodil25 12 March 2013 10: 33
    0
    Data on Russian programs for the use of animals in the interests of the Navy were not disclosed.

    For any of us, killer whales are being prepared !!! laughing
  23. mambito
    mambito 12 March 2013 11: 03
    0
    Dolphins Deserters what, what a news.
  24. bremest
    bremest 12 March 2013 11: 04
    +1
    I read the report, laughed to tears ....)))))))))))))) And it’s a pity for dolphins. Bottlenose dolphins are very friendly to humans.
  25. Ermak
    Ermak 12 March 2013 11: 16
    +1
    Well, a day of humor today! Arrived early! ))) Free Willy !!! ))))
  26. Gemar
    Gemar 12 March 2013 11: 56
    +1
    First, the aircraft carrier sailed to China ... Then the prototype of the Su-33 ... Now the dolphins ...
    Urgently need to return the Crimea-away from sin!
  27. dmitry46
    dmitry46 12 March 2013 14: 05
    +1
    dolphins were sent for fat, but they did not return laughing
    1. Akim
      Akim 12 March 2013 15: 09
      +1
      Quote: dmitry46

      dolphins were sent for fat, but they did not return

      Then for a beer, because it was February 24th.
  28. Apollo
    Apollo 12 March 2013 16: 40
    +1
    The probable cause of the escape of Ukrainian fighting dolphins is named

    Three fighting dolphins of the Ukrainian Navy could have escaped during the exercises because of the female, since military maneuvers took place during these animals during the spring rush, Yury Plyachenko, the former commander of the submarine anti-sabotage forces and means of the Black Sea Fleet, said.

    The escape of three fighting dolphins could be triggered by an exacerbation of the period of the so-called “spring rut”, when males chase the female and do not obey the instructors' commands, Plyachenko told RIA Novosti.

    The male, if he saw the female during the "rut", immediately began to pursue her, no longer listened to any commands. But in a week and a half I was returning, ”the specialist noted.
    As an example, he said that in 1983, a male nicknamed Titan escaped, who later returned to base, but did not swim into the crate and eventually disappeared.

    “I already suggested that scientists develop a“ sedative ”for amphibians so that there are no such incidents, but then this idea was not realized,” the source said.

    more details http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/3/12/624017.html
    1. CARBON
      CARBON 12 March 2013 19: 59
      +2
      A common AWOL. In San Diego they could have followed the "male", but for now everything is in order for the female to run, it's normal)