Light assault

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Article prepared on the basis of materials provided by the Corporation "Protection"

Acceptance of new families of 4x4, 6x6 and 8xNNXX vehicles - “Uralskiy” “Motovozov” and KamAZ-ovskiy “Mustangov” to the Russian army - did not solve the issue of a new, upgraded light car for replacing the good old UAZ vehicles. Meanwhile, such a vehicle, both as a transport vehicle and as a highly mobile air transport platform for installing special equipment and some weapons, is urgently needed for modern armed forces, as well as for other power departments of the state. On the other hand, local military conflicts, counterterrorism and peacekeeping operations have revived interest in this type of combat vehicles, as light armored vehicles on all-wheel drive all-terrain chassis.

Starting from the 1980's. there is a process of the return of armored cars to the armed forces of various countries as patrol and reconnaissance vehicles, light armored personnel carriers, sanitary-evacuation vehicles, carriers or armament tractors. Interest in them has grown particularly in the experience of military conflicts of the first decade of the 21st century. In leading countries, programs for creating multipurpose unarmored and armored vehicles of the “light” and “medium” categories have been opened (for example, the American JLTV program, the German AMPV).

In Russia in recent years, a number of 4x4 wheel formula machines have been introduced, designed to fill these “niches”. Some of them have passed certain stages of testing in the Armed Forces. Among them are the “light assault vehicle” of the LSHA and the “light assault vehicle armored” of the LSHA-B, developed and presented by the Zashchita corporation (previously known for special car booking operations). Let us consider these machines in more detail as one of the interesting examples of solving the above problems. Moreover, against the background of procurement plans for the domestic Armed Forces of vehicles based entirely on foreign chassis.

Easy "assault"

The definition of “light assault vehicle” is an almost literal translation of the English-language Light Strike Vehicle (LSV). It is precisely the “assault” (or “percussive”, as “strike” can be translated) that include a number of military vehicles of the “light” and “middle” class of the new generation. The point, apparently, is not only in the "spectacularity" and the catchiness of such definitions. In the circle of tasks solved by multi-purpose off-road vehicles, the “combat” component, the tasks of combat support, noticeably increased.

The appearance of LSHA is connected with foreign experience.

In 2007, Zashchita Corporation participated in the competition for a hard armored multi-purpose vehicle for the armed forces of the Republic of India. An armored version of a significantly reworked UAZ “Bars” vehicle with a three-door body, diesel engine installation and a “right-hand drive” vehicle was presented in accordance with customer requirements. At the final stage of the competition, the requirement of independent suspension of the car wheels was also determined, which caused further design changes. Finally, in 2009, the Indian military announced a need for a “light assault” (shock) car. This prompted Zashchita Corporation to develop its own chassis.

The prototype of the new car was ready by August 2010. The Indian order was not received by the corporation, but the GABTU representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry were interested in the “light assault vehicle” (LSHA). In September, 2010 was the first samples transferred for trial operation in the army. From the autumn of 2010 to the summer of 2011, a total of ten conventional and two armored vehicles passed the trial operation (including on the basis of the 45-th separate regiment of the special forces of the Airborne Forces and 56-th separate airborne assault brigade). In parallel, laboratory tests were carried out at the Research and Testing Center for Research and Development Prospects for Automotive 3 Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (formerly 21 th Test Defense Ministry Institute) in Bronnitsy near Moscow. According to the experience of these tests, tactical and technical requirements for automobiles were clarified, a substantial revision of their design was carried out, and in September 2011 the current shape of LSHA and LSHA-B actually took shape. These machines also have commercial designations - “Scorpion-2M” and “Scorpion-B”, respectively.

LSHA car ("Scorpion-2M") with a removable awning and side mounts


LSHA is somewhat "knocked out" of the usual number of off-road vehicles with its carrying capacity. With a sufficiently limited size and curb weight (together with the driver) 2400 kg, its capacity has been increased to 1000 kg. In combination with a well-arranged cabin, this allows a light car to transport eight (including the driver) fully equipped fighters, practically one motorized unit or group, when it comes to special forces. The flat cab floor, folding removable seats and wide rear doors facilitate the use of the LSHA for transporting wounded on stretchers, transporting heavy weapons (such as an 82-mm mortar with crew and ammunition), bulky cargo, and also a vehicle for mounting special equipment and radio equipment etc. Possible to install automatic weapons, ATGM, MANPADS.

As already noted, a ready-made domestic or foreign chassis was not taken for the new car - it was created anew with the use of ready-made or modified units. From the point of view of "localization" of supplies, at present the chassis is "mixed." For example, the Andoria diesel engine is of Polish production (engines of the Andoria engine factory in Andryukhov are generally widely supplied to Russia), 5-ST-Penchaty gearbox - Korean company Daimos (the same box stands on UAZ-3159 ” Bars "Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant; lightweight all-terrain" Scorpion-1 ", presented by the corporation" Protection ", made on the basis of UAZ-3159), transfer case similar to that installed on the GAZ-66, tires - a widespread brand" Cooper Discover "STT, the main gear, suspension units - self-developed, hydraulics - domestic suppliers, etc.

Control panel with built-in telemetric on-board computer TBV-М1


However, Zashchita Corporation announced the possibility (upon receipt of a serial order) of an almost complete transfer of ASH to components of domestic production, including the organization of licensed production of engines. The basis for the direct production of cars can become the existing enterprise of the corporation in the Moscow suburb of Fryazino.

The chassis of the car - frame construction, with a powerful in-line 4-cylinder diesel engine with turbocharging, all wheel drive with cross-wheel interlocks, independent suspension of all four wheels. The need to ensure high mobility in both unarmored and armored vehicles required an engine of at least 100 kW (136 hp). The specialists of Zaschita together with the specialists of Andoria carried out the corresponding modifications of the Polish diesel engine, and now the LSHA and LSHA-B are presented with the engine of the Andoria 0501ADCR of such power.

The transmission is manual, with a 5-step gearbox, synchronized on all direct gears, and a two-stage transfer case with switchable front-wheel drive. Two fuel tanks are placed on the sides along the frame side members. The suspension of all wheels is independent, spring-mounted, on double wishbones, with helical coil springs and double-acting telescopic hydraulic shock absorbers on all wheels. Brakes on all wheels - disc with anti-lock system. The width of the track is close to the army trucks, which not only increases the capacity and lateral stability of the vehicle, but also facilitates movement in a convoy along bad roads.

A set of controls and instruments ensures that the driver is below the average qualification of the driver, i.e. an ordinary conscript soldier. There are power steering, hydraulic drive and brake servo booster. Easy access to the engine compartment and transmission units facilitates maintenance and repair in field conditions. A version of the LSHA ("Scorpion-2M") with a propulsion unit in the "Arctic" version - with a heater is presented.

Light assault
The rigid body car with a solid body and side cargo shelves


[/ center] [center]Knots of an independent suspension bracket of wheels of the LSHA car




Light assault vehicle armored LSHA-B



Installation of the PKM 7,62-mm machine gun on the armored turret of the LSHA-B car


Multipurpose designation contributes to the modular design of the case, made up of replaceable forged panels. The manufacturer can assemble a car in a version with a rigid cab and an awning, with a rigid cab and a rigid top (with a round top hatch that allows the installation of weapons), with an open body and a rigid safety cage. Replaceable removable panels facilitate machine repairs. On the body there are fixtures for mounting camouflage nets and other masking material.

A set of devices is quite typical for a modern SUV, designed not for racing on the beach, but for use in extreme conditions - a frame for a spare wheel, a winch for self-pulling, reinforced bumpers, front and rear tow hooks, fixtures for mounting the luggage compartment on the roof of a rigid body , cargo shelves on the sides of the body, etc.

Light armored

Armored LSHA-B really belongs to the category of "light." It is enough to compare its total mass (4,5 t), say, with domestic MIC-3927 "Wolf" (7,5-11,5 t), MIC-233114 "Tiger-M" (7,8 t), MIC-3924 "Bear" (12 t) , KAMAZ-43269 “Shot” (10,5 t), South African “Mamba” Mk II (6,8 t) and RG-31 “Nyala” (8,4 t), Polish “Tour” (6,2 t). It is curious that even on the eve of World War II, armored cars of up to 7 tons were considered “light”. The capacity of the LSHA-B exceeds such representatives of armored cars of the “light” category, such as the British triple S52 “Shorland” (4,4 t), and is close German LAPV "Enok" (5,4 t).

LSHA-B is made on LSHA chassis. To increase its mobility in the future, it is possible to use a diesel engine with a power of 115 kW (156 hp). The frame is reinforced and supplemented with brackets for fastening the armored hull (protective capsule) and fuel tanks, the suspension is reinforced. Modern “armored cars” are largely different from their predecessors in the localization of reservations. So in LSHA-B only the “habitable compartment” was booked. The task of such a “cap” booking is not to turn the car into a “wheeled light tank,” but to increase the chances of the crew and the landing party for survival in the event of shelling or undermining, without reducing the mobility of the SUV.

The armor case is welded from armor steel, the welds outside are reinforced with overlays, and the windows are made of armor glass. In accordance with the tactical and technical requirements, armored case and bulletproof glass provide all-round protection in 5 class according to GOST R 50963-96 (“Protection armored special cars”). More precisely, the frontal, aft, and side projections are protected from falling normal by PS bullets of the automatic 7,62-mm cartridge with a heat-treated steel core (AKM machine gun) and LPS bullets of the 7,62-mm sniper rifle cartridge (SVD rifle) with a non-reinforced steel core when shelling with a XN range 5 -10 m; the roof, corresponding to the 3 class according to the same GOST, protects from the same bullets when they are hit at an angle to the normal 45 ° and more. In addition to the mechanical properties of the actual armor, security is ensured by the spaced-apart hull structure.

Protected explosion-proof fuel tanks are taken out of the armored hull and mounted on the frame along the sides. Cellular filler reduces the risk of detonation of fuel vapor; self-covering coating prevents fuel from leaking out in case of damage (for example, in the case of a small shard or small-caliber bullet). The power plant and transmission assemblies are not armored, but the wheels are made resistant to fire due to plastic rigid inserts that limit the deformation of the tire, allowing it to continue driving at a reduced speed with a damaged tire.

It is possible to enhance the booking of the hull to the 6 class - the highest class of bulletproof reservation according to GOST R 50963-96, which provides protection against the B-32 7,62-mm rifle cartridge from the 5-10 m armor-piercing bullet. This is achieved by hanging additional units from ceramic armor: for them are provided for mounting on the body armor sheets.

Assembling the protective capsule of the car LSHA-B


Driver's workplace LSHA-B


The special features of the armored case include the combination of armor protection with a good overview for the driver (almost at the level of a regular car), the V-shaped lower part and the desire to comply with the requirements of ergonomics. For quick boarding-landing there are three relatively large doors, hinged on hinges. “Bullet catchers” or labyrinth-type seals are made in the door joints, and the joint protection is provided for in advance according to the 6 class. The doors and the hinged cover of the upper hatch are equipped with automatically activated locks holding them in the open position when the machine body is tilted. The need to provide sufficient space for the driver to work and to place (in accordance with the requirements of the customer) the filtering unit for protection against weapons of mass destruction forced the left (along the way) row of paratroopers' seats back and the right row forward. But as a result, the mutual displacement of the rows of seats allows paratroopers not to rest their knees on each other. Inhabited volume tried to free from protruding parts, creating a danger to the soldiers.

View of the troop compartment LSHA-B. FVU mounted to the right of the door


The landing and side embrasure. The embrasure flap folds in


One of the most pressing problems of modern military vehicles is mine protection. In LSHA-B, to ensure it, a number of constructive measures have been taken: the already mentioned V-shaped bottom of the hull, the multi-layer structure of the bottom, fastening the crew seats and airborne troops to the sides of the machine using deformable parts that absorb part of the blast energy, seat belts on all seats, multipoint locks armored door. Undermining tests have shown that the vehicle can ensure the survival of the crew and the assault force when undermining a charge equivalent to TNT 600 g under the middle of the hull; up to 2 kg in TNT equivalent - under the rear wheel and up to 4 kg - under the front wheel.

Projections with the layout scheme of the car LSHA-B




Tests by shelling confirmed that the protective capsule LSHA-B provides protection for class 5


LSHA-B can also adapt to accommodate various cargoes, injured on stretchers, installation of weapons and special equipment. The windows are equipped with roll-up curtains for blackout, external lighting devices are equipped with blackout devices.

The sides of the hull and the aft door are made with embrasures with folding armored valves designed for firing from an individual weapons, and small windows for assault troops. The upper round hatchway with a hinged back cover is not only used for emergency evacuation or a review of the terrain. Above it can be mounted armored turret, designed for installation, for example, 7,62-mm PKM machine gun, 12,7-mm machine gun Kord or 30-mm automatic grenade launcher AG-17. For convenience, the shooter serves as a retractable stand (when folded, it is removed under the seat so as not to interfere with the soldiers sitting in the case). A small ventilation hatch is also made in the roof of the hull.

The machine is presented with such items of equipment as a rear view video camera and air conditioning. Provision is made for an information management system and a satellite navigation system terminal.

An important indicator of a combat armored vehicle is its air transportability. The corresponding tests of the LSHA-B have not yet been carried out, but the appearance on its roof of four powerful hinges allows the vehicle to be carried on an external suspension of an amphibious transport helicopter (although this is not very characteristic of our Armed Forces).

In the spring of 2012, the LSHA and LSHA-B vehicles were transferred for acceptance tests on the basis of the Scientific and Research Testing Center for Automotive Vehicles of the 3 Central Scientific Research Institute MO with a view to entering the state tests in September.







Car LSHA-B after testing undermining. Xnumx


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  1. Alikovo
    0
    6 March 2013 08: 37
    Iveco got better
    1. +15
      6 March 2013 09: 21
      Is it better? I remember when the tests of the "Scorpion" were shown on TV, there was a breakdown right in front of the camera (either a cardan or something with a suspension, I don't remember). I was struck by the designer's comment: "Well, these are trifles, a driver mechanic must be able to fix it." This is the attitude, let's make a piece of shit, and you’re there in the army .... whatever you want, because "little things" and "should be able to." In the cold, in an open field or under enemy fire, keys are always more pleasant to thunder ...
    2. +11
      6 March 2013 12: 43
      Than? Iveco holds an order of magnitude large WU. Although, it is worth noting, this is the only Russian armored car that was tested for normal detonation. Honor and praise be to them.
      1. PLO
        +2
        6 March 2013 13: 50
        it only Russian armored car, which was tested for normal detonation. Honor and praise be to them.

        what irony lol
        1. 0
          6 March 2013 16: 27
          About the Russian car - talked about LSHA
      2. bask
        +6
        6 March 2013 17: 08
        Quote: Pimply
        Than? Iveco holds an order of magnitude large WU.

        Enough about the old stuff, the development of the late 90's. And at the price of 20 ml rub
        250.000 $ Here is its price., No more.



        1. 0
          6 March 2013 17: 19
          Let's just say - stop talking nonsense about junk and about the end of the 90s. The experience of the war in the Balkans was used - yes. However, the design copies went in 2001, after which they were repeatedly refined. Serial copies went in 2004-2005. The main bulk purchases in other countries first went in 2006-2008. The car was tested in Afghanistan.
          1. bask
            +4
            6 March 2013 17: 30
            Quote: Pimply
            so - stop talking nonsense about junk and about the end of the 90s. An experience

            Link to the studio. SCHASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. [Media = http: //ru.wikipedia.org/w
            iki / Iveco_LMV]
            It was good for the beginning of 2000. Now it’s outdated. I don’t speak about mine protection. At the level. But the load is lifted.,. Ergomicity, cross
            b. And most importantly, the price of 20 ml of rub is no longer suitable for anyone.
            Not when Iveco bought, I already bought 70 Oshkost-Sant Cat and set up a joint production with Plasa

            1. +1
              6 March 2013 17: 38
              Now read carefully. The car was designed taking into account the experience of operating similar machines during the conflict in the Balkans in the 1990s. Experience of the 90s does not mean the development of the 90s.
              1. bask
                +2
                6 March 2013 18: 08
                Quote: Pimply
                and the Balkans in the 1990s. The experience of the 90s does not mean the development of the 90s.

                The first model was released in 2001. Not a war, for one year now they do not design and do not make. At least three to four years.
                Now off topic but I’ll answer ... Wisel BMD in Afghanistan. Here and the application.
                1. 0
                  6 March 2013 19: 12
                  Not the first car. The first prototype. This is a big difference. The first SandCat prototypes - without a doubt a good and interesting car - went in 2004, and their demonstration took place in 2005. The big difference? The series Iveco appeared in 2004.
            2. 0
              7 March 2013 00: 09
              The IDF did not buy Iveco for several reasons.

              1. Israel is one of the leaders in the production of armored vehicles. Russia is not such. Italy is. South Africa - appears. Germany and the USA are. Russia - at the moment - no. Therefore, he buys cars where, all other things being equal, he still has additional interests. And in Italy, Russia clearly has them.

              2. Stop nonsense about an obsolete car, which went into series in 2004, and into a large series - in 2006-2008. With Sandcat, the difference is three years.
              Use 10 European countries in combat conditions. Do not just use it - they buy it. And not to say that all of them have a weak military industry. Take at least Britain or Spain.

              3. Israel buys Sandcat, as it is a joint venture whose products can be purchased through US military assistance.
  2. region34
    0
    6 March 2013 08: 46
    her ... Komonreilovsky diesel engine, fully electronically controlled with a bunch of capricious and delicate sensors on an army machine, this is not for our conditions ...
  3. +1
    6 March 2013 09: 16
    Quote: region34
    her ... Komonreilovsky diesel engine, fully electronically controlled with a bunch of capricious and delicate sensors on an army machine, this is not for our conditions ...


    so he is on the tigers of the military :) the truth is not at all
  4. 0
    6 March 2013 09: 30
    A good replacement for UAZ. It is necessary to conduct comparative tests and if everything works out, then urgently in a series.
    1. 0
      18 March 2013 11: 46
      And in my opinion, Kozlikov retires early, where they don’t shoot him - it’s something: cheap, maintainable and efficient!
  5. +11
    6 March 2013 09: 35
    What is the point of making the interior upholstery of the passenger compartment or car cab of camouflage fabric colors? Indeed, in addition to the irritation of the eyes of the child and passengers, especially on a long trip, there is no effect. How does such a coloring of the insides of technology affect the reduction of its visibility to the enemy?
    1. Passing
      +4
      6 March 2013 15: 40
      In the inflamed brain of either generals or anyone else, this camouflage should mask something there with the doors open.
    2. 0
      6 March 2013 19: 45
      I’m not sure of course (IMHO), but maybe this anti-shatter fabric used in body armor has such a color? They took what industry produces and everything, without bothering about visual comfort.
      1. Passing
        +3
        6 March 2013 20: 31
        Anti-splinter fabric - these are several layers of say Kevlar. And Kevlar itself is not painted. What you see on the surface of body armor and inside this machine is a protective layer of ordinary fabric (Kevlar underneath). And this protective layer can be of any color. What color will be ordered, this will be.
      2. 0
        18 March 2013 11: 50
        This is with us (hunters), the tuning is like this - it is easy to clean, it can be removed easily in general "beauty is a terrible power !!!!" wink
  6. avt
    +4
    6 March 2013 09: 49
    In the article, the device is declared as a light assault. But in fact, which of the admirers will agree on the easy yes to storm? Well, if you storm like this on a tank, and patrol on Typhoon, well, on Medved chtol after testing and acceptance.
    1. bask
      +3
      6 March 2013 12: 03
      Quote: avt
      Arat is declared as a light assault. And actually one of the admirers will agree on the easy yes to storm

      In the world classification it is JLTV reconnaissance and patrol.
      CJSC ,, the only company in Russia conducted all tests of its cars for --- undermining. And honestly, without embellishing, posted the results.
      Bulletproof protection for this class of cars at the world level.
      But 600 grams under the bottom in t / e, this is critically small for modern JLTVs.
      LSHA and LSHA-B Must hold at least 2-4 kg in t / 'under the cortus, and up to 8 kg under any wheel.
      1. +2
        6 March 2013 12: 45
        Yes, they still have work to do. But openness, atypical for Russian defense industry enterprises, pleasantly delivers
        1. bask
          +1
          6 March 2013 16: 57
          Quote: Pimply

          Yes, they still have work to do. But openness, atypical for Russian defense industry enterprises, pleasantly delivers

          It is necessary to create. Modern on modern technologies. Armored car
          Maybe in 2013, the company, Protection, will provide a new car. It meets international standards.
          While in Russia there is only one such machine, the Typhoon family, Costing 1 mln. $
          A JLTV class car should cost no more than $ 250.000 (7.7 ml rub) A modern car. This is not Iveco-Lynx for 20 ml rub.
          1. +1
            6 March 2013 17: 27
            Nobody says that you do not need to create. It is necessary.

            There is no typhoon yet, there is a prototype.

            Do not tell me the cost from which sources you calculated?
            1. bask
              0
              6 March 2013 19: 23
              Quote: Pimply
              cost do not tell from what sources were calculated

              Cost, Typhoon, from open sources. Look in google.
              The concept of application and the planned mass production in the production of JLTV in NATO and the USA. Russia is also necessary, soy program ,, Light tactical machines ,, How to develop a program ,, Typhoon.
              Weight from 5-7 tons. Mine protection not lower than STANAG 3

              Hmfziaim Bm.D ,, Anver ,, is going to Alabama for an IDF. And you all the songs about Iveco, you’re singing, Israel’s most modern, and Russia’s rubbish for 20 ml rub.
              1. bask
                0
                6 March 2013 19: 40
                Anwar began to collect in 2012
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              2. 0
                6 March 2013 20: 03
                I'm not talking about the cost of Typhoon - it's just no problem. The price for JLTV was calculated. Give me a link.
                1. bask
                  0
                  6 March 2013 20: 30
                  Quote: bask
                  Now off topic but I’ll answer ... Wisel BMD in Afghanistan. Here and the application

                  You did not answer. On a question about application, by the Bundeswehr, BMD-Wisel.
                  You said categorically that this should not be.
                  And you yourself know the prices only preliminary.
                  [media = http: //euracom.ru/news/page389.php? page = 1]
                  Oshkosh (L-ATV) $ 250
                  1. 0
                    6 March 2013 23: 56
                    Okosh has several levels of protection. Which one are you talking about?

                    What question about Wisel BMD did I not answer?
                    1. bask
                      +2
                      7 March 2013 07: 14
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Window several levels of protection. Which one are you talking about?

                      You are not talking about defense as such (((armored protection))) but about tactics
                      Mobility, ergonomics, profitability, a large resource of chassis suspension and so on ...
                      Quote: Pimply
                      wasps about bmd wisel i'm not

                      In the article about BMD4, you categorically stated that the Wisei BMD was not used by the Germans in asymmetric wars.
                      1. -1
                        7 March 2013 12: 44
                        Quote: bask
                        In the article about BMD4, you categorically stated that the Wisei BMD was not used by the Germans in asymmetric wars.


                        What are you doing? As far as I remember, I said that he was imprisoned for a different tactic than to drag him into an attack on the enemy.


                        Quote: bask
                        You are not talking about defense as such (((armored protection))) but about tactics
                        Mobility, ergonomics, profitability, a large resource of chassis suspension and so on ...


                        No, I’m talking about different types of armor - Okosh produces various types of vehicles.
              3. 0
                7 March 2013 15: 40
                Why on earth does Avner come to Tsahal?
                When????
            2. bask
              +1
              6 March 2013 19: 54
              JLTV ,, Anwar ,, 2012 year.

      2. avt
        +2
        6 March 2013 12: 53
        Quote: bask
        In the world classification it is JLTV reconnaissance and patrol.
        CJSC ,, the only company in Russia conducted all tests of its cars for --- undermining. And honestly, without embellishing, posted the results.
        Bulletproof protection for this class of cars at the world level.

        Well, definitely not a reconnaissance patrol. Some kind of travel, such as an armored headquarters "bobik", instead of a UAZ, it can be request . But on BRDM does not pull.
        1. bask
          +2
          6 March 2013 16: 36
          Quote: avt

          Well, definitely not a reconnaissance patrol. Some kind of traveling, such as an armored headquarters "bobik", instead of an UAZ, maybe

          JLTV ,, Modern light tactical vehicles, Weight 5-7 tons
          There are 3 types. By capacity.
          And up to 1600 kg. B-1800-200-kg. C-2300 kg
          Capacity 5-6 people.
      3. bask
        +1
        6 March 2013 21: 30
        Internal anti-fragmentation lining. All armored vehicle control should be on the, steering wheel, driver’s and landing feet only on anti-mine supports. The landing, in anti-mine seats, with safety belts .. The floor is LSA metal. It must also be covered with anti-fragmentation material. And there’s more ,, little things, on which the life of a soldier depends.
        1. 0
          6 March 2013 21: 41
          Lining is optional. It is designed to trap secondary fragments. Some types of light armor do not give them.

          Mine supports are also optional if there is a cushioned raised floor
          1. bask
            +1
            6 March 2013 22: 17
            Quote: Spade
            not required. It is designed to trap secondary fragments. Some types of light armor do not give them.

            But the lining also provides an additional ballistic protection.
            Quote: Spade
            tivomin coasters are also optional if there is a cushioned raised floor

            As far as I know, the raised floor is only on the MPI.

            (GDLS) AM LLC
        2. bask
          +1
          6 March 2013 22: 47
          Quote: Spade
          Mine action

          Another variant of mine protection. Without resorting to the V-shaped structure of the bottom.
          IT'S COOL LIKE AS A CHIMNEY. (STRUCTURAL, ANTI-EXPLOSION PIPE))) Sttuctural blast chimney-SBC)

          All for the removal of the shock wave. But the question arises.? At what height will fly away, armor ....?
          That’s all, called JLTV One Hammer ,,,,, Created by AM General
          1. +2
            6 March 2013 22: 53
            Somehow in this tale very little faith.
            1. bask
              +2
              6 March 2013 23: 24
              Quote: Spade

              Somehow in this tale very little faith.

              That's for sure. 20% Blast Wave. the rest will go through the pipe to a flat bottom. And scrap.
    2. +3
      7 March 2013 07: 43
      Recently, it has become very fashionable to use thoughtless translation of English terms. So there were assault vehicles that have nothing to do with assaults, tactical arms that cannot be classified in any way by the level of use of forces and means — tactical, operational, or strategic. The power reserve of the equipment for fuel began to be called operational mobility, and the possibility of its transfer by various modes of transport became strategic mobility. Although the concept of mobility of arms and military equipment has very specific characteristics. Normal military concepts began to be replaced by some kind of Western gaming jargon.
  7. +2
    6 March 2013 10: 14
    on the one hand, a great car! and on the other hand, only one thing confuses me a lot of foreign-made parts, although as the manufacturer says this problem can be solved! if so then I have no doubt after successful tests in a series of all the samples !! By the way, this company has one more, it seems to me a good development is Scorpio LT
    1. Passing
      +1
      6 March 2013 15: 43
      It looks much prettier than LSA, but what kind of reservation / explosion resistance?
      1. +1
        6 March 2013 16: 44
        ceramic armor of 6a class and can withstand 6 kilograms of TNT as the developer says
        1. bask
          0
          6 March 2013 19: 44

          All-ceramic armor Not a panacea. An appropriate line-up is needed.
          New Police Armor.Sergeant 4/4
          Can withstand 6kg t / t
    2. bask
      0
      6 March 2013 16: 20
      Quote: sanek45744
      on! and on the other hand, I am confused by only one many details of foreign production

      Yes, because these parts are not produced in Russia.
      French, Peugeut P 4,, ASMAT has been in operation since the 90s. More than 700 units have been produced.
  8. +3
    6 March 2013 11: 34
    An interesting review. informative. There are a lot of pictures. Article plus. By car questions more. I will not say that the car is bad. The body is all-welded, durable. 5 class protection. This is a plus. The car falls under fire, the protection withstood. The main goal is to leave the fire contact zone. But! The engine compartment is not armored. The covers of the main gears of bridges from silumin (? !!) and are not protected by anything ???. If the engine or transmission is damaged, the machine is definitely stopped! In the zone of fire! What's next?
    The use of independent suspensions on assault vehicles is questionable. One more thing: In hostile territory, the simpler the better! Axles on springs and shock absorbers - the same option! Moreover, the speed of movement is not great. And here: levers, silent blocks, drives with CV joints, anti-roll bars, and in addition a rack and pinion steering ??? !! When driving off-road and bad roads, this owner needs an eye and an eye! Where to fix it? In the forest under a birch tree? In short, this is an excellent vehicle for protecting convoys, patrolling and transporting personnel in conditions of periodic travel to risk territory. For permanent "work" in a combat zone something different is needed. Easier. More secure ...
    1. Passing
      +1
      6 March 2013 15: 48
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      But! The engine compartment is not armored.

      For a weight of three and a half tons, you want too much.
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      In short, this is an excellent machine for guarding convoys, patrolling and transporting personnel in the conditions of periodic visits to risk areas

      I agree that this particular niche is just for him, and the claim to "assault" car looks ridiculous.
  9. Boer
    +1
    6 March 2013 13: 41
    region34,
    Quote: region34
    her ... Komonreilovsky diesel engine, fully electronically controlled with a bunch of capricious and delicate sensors on an army machine, this is not for our conditions ...

    All right! Our equipment around the world is famous for its prostate and reliability, it is being repaired in the field. In the fighting, it’s generally of irreplaceable quality, or as it happened with amers, immediately evokuatsyya, etc. etc. I think who fought on technology. he says that all the nonsense in the case comes out.
  10. Passing
    +4
    6 March 2013 16: 55
    Bad car. Vicious in concept. For a reason, the fundamentally incorrect initial promise in the design. And the idea was obviously this - to make a light, cheap, transportable Mi-8 vehicle for transporting the maximum possible number of fighters. Like cheap and cheerful. This concept is deeply vicious. After all, it is impossible to make a light car truly well-protected, and therefore shoving eight people into it is a crime, conceptual sabotage, deliberate pushing into the troops of the Mass Grave of the Infantry.
    They may object to me that we cannot afford to buy heavy, highly protected cars for the whole army, we need light and economical ones. They are needed, but as many as 8 people should not be properly transported in these tiny little cars! The task of these light vehicles is to transport 2-4 people, carry light loads, but not take on the functions of an armored personnel carrier.
    Again, they may object to me that de nobody forces 8 people to transport, perhaps less. Alas, in practice this approach will not work - if there are 8 seats in the car, then they will be transported to the maximum, this is the army, they go on what is available right now.
    Again, they may object to me - you can upgrade this LSA, put chairs in Iveco. And again, nothing will work, because the car body was originally designed for the wrong concept, and it is impossible to place the rear seats across the machine - the V-shaped bottom interferes. Therefore, the rear seats can only be placed along the sides.
  11. Megadan
    +1
    6 March 2013 19: 18
    More like a pull by the ears. Yes, there is an abbreviation of L-ATV in the USA - so there are already 5 (five) versions supposed. That is, the base is of a modular type.
    Here is "Oshkosh" - it 100% corresponds to this name "light tactical". But not "Scorpio".
    1. bask
      +2
      6 March 2013 20: 10
      Quote: MegaDan
      from "Oshkosh" - it is 100% true to this name "light tactical". But not "Scorpio

      I agree with you on all 100%
      And not only Oshkost (L-ATV)
      BAE Systems (TVP)
      Loclhetd marnin,


  12. candy bar140105
    +1
    6 March 2013 21: 20
    are we really lagging so far behind the Amers and cannot cope with such a miracle, candy machines ...............
    1. bask
      +3
      6 March 2013 22: 27
      Quote: baton140105

      are we really so far behind the Amer

      20 YEARS ,, DEMOCRACY ,, AND TOTAL THEFT. CLOSURE, NII, THE DISPOSAL OF THE SOVIET MIC AND THERE IS THE RESULT YOU WANT. Without investing money in military science and production. We lost a lot of Soviet technologies. Without making new
      Even China at least caught up with us and got ahead of us. In the development of military technologies.
      1. bask
        +1
        6 March 2013 23: 32
        Quote: bask
        In the development of military technologists

        Chinese MCI CS / VP3 ... Presented in Malaysia in 2012 at the exhibition.
        1. bask
          +2
          6 March 2013 23: 55
          With all the complexity of development. 5th generation aircraft, missile systems.
          There are no such complex technical tasks in the development of armored vehicles
          you need adequate TK and a small design bureau. With a design department. Everything.
          1. +2
            7 March 2013 00: 10
            And then suddenly remember material science and armor