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The opposition proposes to the White House to increase pressure on the Kremlin.

It’s likely that no one will have any doubts that America’s many opposition shares really stand in its capital meeting with the quite expected agenda: Obama should sharply toughen his attitude to Putin’s regime and use more innovative methods for this, since rebooting failed and need fresh ideas.

Obama, of course, needs such advice right now. While he and his administration are in a desperate search for new ideas to solve numerous internal and external problems, the Russian opposition and its American friends are doing everything possible to expand the list of such problems. The meeting began on February 21 with artillery preparation in the Heritage Foundation, where an opposition activist, journalist, and now also an employee of the Institute of Modern Russia (its president is Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s son Pavel), Vladimir Kara-Murza made his modest contribution to the discussion of recommendations to the US President. Among them: the early deployment of missile defense systems in Europe, no cuts in the military budget, the achievement of full superiority of all US space, land, air and naval forces in Europe and Eurasia. It is necessary to force Russia to buy American meat and expand military and economic cooperation with key Eurasian countries: Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan (Georgia, it seems, have passed). However, the main thing, of course, is the support of the Russian opposition in the struggle for democracy and human rights.

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Especially Kara-Murza did not like that, “while thousands of Muscovites gathered at Pushkin Square to protest against dishonest presidential elections, the US State Department warmly congratulated Vladimir Putin on the victory.” However, the main event is expected on March 4 in the US Senate, where the main role will be played by Freedom House, so Putin will get there in full. Lyudmila Alekseeva, Mikhail Kasyanov, Dmitry Gudkov and Lilia Shevtsova have been announced from Russia so far, but other oppositionists are also possible. On the eve of the rally, the program articles of Freedom House and Lilia Shevtsova were published, so no particular sensations are expected, although who knows?

Freedom House insists on a significant increase in the financial and moral support of the Russian opposition, as well as the search for more "innovative ways of political liberalization of Russia." Under the innovative approach, the direct text speaks of the need "to throw a tough challenge not only to Russia, but also to the various authoritarian organizations in which it is composed, such as the Eurasian Union, the CSTO, the CIS, the SCO, and others."
Those who follow the news from the USA, they know that the main topic discussed here now is the upcoming sequestration of the budget, including for social needs. However, according to Freedom House, American retirees, healthcare and education are not as important as the help of the Russian opposition, and therefore this budget item should not be reduced, like others, but, on the contrary, should grow. The miserable $ 50 million allocated to promote democracy in Russia is a trifle for such an ambitious program. Particularly pleased with the appeal of Freedom House to challenge the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), where one of the main players is China, by the way, is the largest lender to the United States, to which the Americans owe almost a half trillion dollars. America, therefore, is still being offered additional money from China to finance activities against the lenders themselves. I would like to hear the reaction of the Chinese comrades to such an offer!

However, the proposals coming from the very center of Moscow - the office of the Russian branch of the Carnegie Foundation on Pushkin Square - are even more striking. Lilia Shevtsova, a leading researcher at the foundation, offers a much more radical approach — a return to the containment policy of Putin’s Russia. Nobody argues that the Russian democratic institutions are still too weak and suffer from many shortcomings that accompany the early stage of the development of democracy, but Russia is not trying to spread its ideology and threaten someone’s security, like the Soviet Union at one time.
Modern Russia is first of all a regional power without any special global ambitions. Of course, it has its own interests, sometimes not coinciding with the interests of the United States, but on the most important issues, such as, for example, the fight against international terrorism, drug trafficking, the spread of weapons mass destruction, these interests are completely the same. Therefore, calls for a policy of containment of Russia are not only irrelevant, but also dangerous, since they turn Russia from an albeit insufficiently reliable partner into an enemy. I do not think that America needs it, but Shevtsov gets her salary from here.

The position of the Carnegie Foundation’s leadership is not entirely clear. Jim Collins, the former US ambassador to Moscow, and now the director of the Russian programs of the foundation, his deputy Matt Rozhansky, as well as the director of the Moscow branch of this foundation Dmitry Trenin are known for their sober and pragmatic approach to US-Russian relations. Their opinion would be worth listening to both Moscow and Washington. It is also clear that the employees of the foundation have complete freedom of expression, but can they contradict its strategic line? If this is not the case, is it possible to assume that the leaders of the foundation consider the policy of containing Russia to be correct and are ready to offer it to the White House? From my point of view, this “meeting” will not only not help the Russian opposition, but will also greatly harm it, since it will practically confirm the words of the Russian leadership about the “hand of Washington” on its pulse. And they are unlikely to add money, our debt is already approaching 17 trillion. dollars, and we can not constantly borrow from Communist China to promote democracy in Russia. Perhaps the opposition should go directly to Beijing, they have money, and without intermediaries it is always better.

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  1. Belij
    Belij 27 February 2013 05: 35
    +45
    It's time to revive the special trains. Load all this scum into the "stolypins" and head west at full speed. Let them listen to this nonsense about the lack of democracy in Russia. It is necessary to work, and not to powder the brains of people. Only this bastard does not want to work and does not know how. We got it already, it's boiling.
    1. bombowoz
      bombowoz 27 February 2013 06: 38
      +20
      Howl Only not to the west, but to the east. There are still many white spots in Siberia. Can railway build in hard to reach areas. In general, it's time to return to hard labor.
      1. Bosk
        Bosk 27 February 2013 11: 08
        +13
        Uh ... in no time to send the east inappropriately, why spoil the beauty ... it’s better all the same to the west, let’s take a closer look at what they advocate so ...
        1. escapes
          escapes 27 February 2013 15: 24
          +3
          Yeah let him go with the Arabonegrohomoseki are friends in the geyropu))
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 27 February 2013 13: 43
        +4
        Two problems can be solved:
        Make the opposition take revenge on the street, well there for 15 days, and malicious up to 1 month.
        The issue of migrants is being addressed, there’s simply no work for them. Since the Russians do not want to clean the streets for a penny and work on construction sites.
      3. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 27 February 2013 17: 54
        +1
        mind. in Siberia, all sorts of byak and without them are enough. Muscovites !! If you have grown this ...... avno, then find a way to tidy up your house and not scatter ..... avno throughout the Russian Federation
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 27 February 2013 08: 26
      +14
      Quote: belij
      Load all this scum into the "Stolypins" and head west at full speed.

      Only to the east, there are still so many unturned rivers and untouched canals. In general, it is necessary to publish a monthly list of "friends of Russia", which should be published in the open access so that the country knows its heroes.
      1. Belij
        Belij 27 February 2013 09: 06
        +3
        I meant the USA and Europe soldier Sincerely.
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 27 February 2013 10: 01
        -3
        Strange. You are a folk. Your country is being robbed, degraded. Traders in power destroy industry and agriculture. Legalize migrants. They are reducing the army and preparing the next wave of privatization.
        And you all believe in fairy tales about the hand of America (well, at least one document would have brought about cash payments from America) and the main enemies of Russia - Navalny, Nemtsov, Novodvorskaya and the like riffraff. Yes, these little men do not solve anything at all. And where you send them east or west is also not important for our country.
        Our country is ruled by completely different people. But they don't talk about them from TV screens. Or they say only good things. And you don't have enough thinking ability to add 2 + 2. So you repeat the stamps embedded in your head. And so, since the time of Yeltsin, everyone is voting with their hearts, they have not learned their heads.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 February 2013 10: 13
          +18
          Quote: S_mirnov
          Do you all believe in fairy tales about America’s hand (well, at least one document would have been brought about cash payments from America) and the main enemies of Russia

          Smirnov, didn’t you go blind for an hour? And who ran to McFaul? Who is funding the Kornegi Foundation? Where did the Udaltsov get the loot? Alekseeva from the office closely related to British intelligence loot receives? Speak right away is a lie, do not slander the patriots, yes Smirnov?

          The essence of the article is that some people interfere in the internal affairs of the state, stop yelling that everyone has stolen. Not everything, your laptop is still there laughing
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 27 February 2013 10: 35
            -14
            "Smirnov, have you not gone blind for an hour?" - no, not blind, but here's no document on the transfer of money from the United States - did not see Udaltsov, what our media will not print, there is not enough paint? Or a video with a handover of a suitcase. And that's it! the careers of various Udaltsovs are over, and you can plant them!
            "Speak right away, this is a lie, do not slander the patriots, yes Smirnov?" - these are unproven facts and it is somehow strange that the dosikhpor has not been proven, By the way, I do not consider our pseudoappazition to be patriots.
            "Not everything, your laptop is still in place" - This is because I did not let it be taken away in the gateway!
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 27 February 2013 10: 41
              +3
              Quote: S_mirnov
              no, I’m not blind, but I didn’t see Udaltsov’s document on transferring money from the USA
              They bring him on a triple with bells, so that everyone would see laughing
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 February 2013 10: 44
              +6
              Quote: S_mirnov
              no, not blinded

              Udaltsov received loot from Georgia !!! About the others that were silent?
              Quote: S_mirnov
              these are unproven facts and it’s strange that dosihpor is not proven,

              What exactly is not proven? The fact that Kornegi is in fact the created structure of the State Department and the CIA, the amers themselves do not deny. Can McFaul run this fake? so again, it’s not McFaul that marathon runners do not deny. What the United States sponsors the opposition, but the United States themselves do not deny it, YOU WHAT ?????
              Quote: S_mirnov
              This is because I did not let him be taken away in the gateway!

              Fought off FSB agents? wassat
              1. bask
                bask 27 February 2013 11: 06
                +6
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                ltsov received loot from Georgia !!! About the rest that said nothing

                Greetings to all. And who gave the money to the Georgians, our home-grown oligarchs. Udaltsov, the end company is clowns, not the opposition.
                And the money for the collapse, ,,, pumping ,, minerals, degradation and fooling of young people in the media and the enslavement of Russia
                They come from the United States, only from all kinds of Zionist centers. And you know this very well. Dep .. This is a mongrel running errands for the real owners of the United States.
                1. Sirocco
                  Sirocco 27 February 2013 11: 46
                  +1
                  You look at this film at your leisure (for general development) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMxQzYJ--5M
                2. Sirocco
                  Sirocco 27 February 2013 11: 51
                  0
                  You watch this movie at your leisure (for general development) Unknown Putin 1
              2. TUMAN
                TUMAN 27 February 2013 15: 56
                +3
                S-Mirnov and novels! What are you arguing about? Both this and that take place in Russia! This is a corrupt elite, and surrender of Russia's interests, this is imprisonment on a far-fetched pretext, of real patriots, Kvachkov, Budanov, and many more worthy people! This is a rotten swamp of a riffraff, screaming about democracy! The execution of Russia continues, and every year everything is more sophisticated! It’s time to think about what they are trying to, under the guise of various reforms!
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 28 February 2013 00: 16
                  +1
                  You are completely right in your comment.
                  "S-Mirnov and Romanov! What are you arguing about?" people. And that's really it.
              3. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 28 February 2013 00: 13
                +1
                "Udaltsov was getting money from Georgia !!! What did you say about the others?" - as before, no facts other than "gossip in the form of versions"? Well, at least one document! Video recording, No? then into the toilet your guesses. Here Kvachkov was imprisoned even without proof, but here everyone knows everything and Udaltslov, Nemtsov, etc. they walk freely, they powder the Mozie people. So they are expensive.

                "Have you fought off FSB agents?" - no stagnation in tights!

                "What exactly is not proven? The fact that Kornegie is essentially a created structure of the State Department and the CIA" Oh yes, it turns out everyone knows! And then why not arrest all the State Department and the CIA, what a point bench press? Under Stalin, there was a short conversation with such people, but with the hucksters, snot is smeared all over the media, and it’s a little guts to do something!
                1. TUMAN
                  TUMAN 28 February 2013 00: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Under Stalin, there was a short conversation with such people, but with traders, the snot was smeared over all the media, and to do something was thin!

                  So I say that in Russia there are both factors that you argued about! And that Russia is a dependent country, and all this is salivating about strengthening defense capabilities, and modernization is utter nonsense! The country destroys its patriots, and recent evil enemies - gives the stars of the hero! This is possible only when enemies are in power! This is what I wanted to say! And to you, from me personally, a big +
            3. Sirocco
              Sirocco 27 February 2013 11: 39
              +5
              A former activist of the Kasparov OGF told how exactly the Russian "orange" are trying to "control Runet for their own purposes" and engage in brainwashing of Internet inhabitants.
              "Until a certain moment X we do not betray ourselves that we disagree. We just rub ourselves into people's trust. For it is always easier to retrain an already united people than to unite from scratch. I don’t know who was the first to say, maybe me. At the forum of cactus growers, for example, for 2 months we write to everyone "what kind of glue cacti you have", they thank you for us, we give them ki-ki. , and so on and so on. "And they, the electorate, receive information, although they sit on the forum of cactus growers. And not only receive, but also see how" everyone "perceives this information. And who is" everyone "there? Right. - project participants, 3 people - 9 nicknames, or even more. Today, launched and operates in the Russian Internet is not one such project on "formation of public opinion." For each "movement" in real life there is an Internet project. They met me and told me (and there were witnesses with me) that “sponsors were found, and the project was launched on an even larger scale than originally anticipated.” That now even they plan to quit their job and take up only this project, especially since now they will also pay for it "

              A few months later, a "bomb" appeared on the Internet - a leaked presentation of the project, which was adopted in a more expanded form:
              more details in the same place.
          2. Sirocco
            Sirocco 27 February 2013 11: 42
            +3
            Yes, he did not blind, And one of these provocateurs. We are only to blame for the fact that he wants to eat too much. And in order to eat well, to have a coin, apparently found his 30 pieces of silver.
        2. Sirocco
          Sirocco 27 February 2013 11: 38
          +3
          I am surprised by people like you. Are you my friend whether the Bo arrived from the Moon yesterday, or are you a PROVOCATOR, Hilary Clinton: US Allocates $ 25 Million in 2011 to Support Bloggers and Internet Activists The Barack Obama administration will support politically active Internet figures in countries where the rights and freedoms of citizens are violated, helping them to technically be one step ahead of the censors. The US State Department will open a microblog Twitter in Russian. The American authorities have repeatedly talked about the importance of social networks, in particular Twitter and Facebook, in organizing protests in Egypt and Tunisia, as a result of which the long-term rulers of these states were forced to leave their posts. Social networks have been actively used to organize anti-government protests in Yemen, Algeria, Jordan and Syria. For more details you can read by clicking on this link http://www.politonline.ru/ventilyator/7902.html
        3. Galinanp
          Galinanp 27 February 2013 14: 14
          +3
          S_mirnov (2) RU Today, 10:01
          More specifically, who are these "traders in the Wallasti", "completely different people" ruling the country. Names, appearances, passwords!
          1. Dinver
            Dinver 27 February 2013 14: 39
            +6
            I read the title of the article I thought:

            I started reading, but here ...
            1. Rebus
              Rebus 27 February 2013 17: 22
              +1
              Quote: Dinver

              I read the title of the article I thought:

              I thought about the same thing ...

              And in the article, some kind of incorrect landing is described ...
              Especially Kara-Murza did not like that, “while thousands of Muscovites gathered at Pushkin Square to protest against dishonest presidential elections, the US State Department warmly congratulated Vladimir Putin on the victory.” However, the main event is expected on March 4 in the US Senate, where the main role will be played by Freedom House, so Putin will get there in full. Lyudmila Alekseeva, Mikhail Kasyanov, Dmitry Gudkov and Lilia Shevtsova have been announced from Russia so far, but other oppositionists are also possible. On the eve of the rally, the program articles of Freedom House and Lilia Shevtsova were published, so no particular sensations are expected, although who knows?

              In short, they are not paratroopers, but not citizens deserving universal respect who have problems with the anus ...
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 28 February 2013 00: 08
            0
            "More specifically, who are these" traders in the Wallasti "" - the heads of the parliamentary parties - all over the place (they sell mandates). The post of the regional governor is also for sale, who appointed the governors - guess for yourself. Judge posts are also sold.
            "" completely different people "ruling the country. Surnames, appearances, passwords!" - go nafig, Salie and Ilyukhin were killed for less. Can't you figure it out yourself?
            1. Galinanp
              Galinanp 28 February 2013 18: 35
              0
              S_mirnov (2) RU Today, 00:08
              But still somehow streamlined. Here is the west, domestic liberalists are extremely concrete in the main object of their hatred. And you try to keep up with them, but somehow hesitantly.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 27 February 2013 05: 41
    +26
    And you can not let the clowns in the person of Kosyanov, Alekseev, Gudkov and Shevtsov go back, let them stay there. A normal opposition in their countries refers to their own citizens, and not to US senators.
    They live in Russia and spit on it. ALLO MOSKVICH, where you all who voted for Putin, Zhirik and Zyuganov, why the hell are they free to walk around Moscow with no broken faces. Why is the Carnegie center still not burning? Or what once, his business to the throat negative
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 27 February 2013 07: 24
      +22
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      why the hell are they walking around Moscow not with broken faces.

      Sasha hi ! laughing You don’t need to beat the little girl in the face, she’s already flawed on her head and a curve for a mug. Just to explain the rest of her companions -Will you make faces star like Alekseeva,
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 February 2013 10: 18
        +5
        Quote: Tersky
        she’s already flawed on her head and a curve for a mug

        Hi Vitya! It's time to order mourning wink
    2. Uncle Serozha
      Uncle Serozha 27 February 2013 09: 40
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Normal opposition in their countries addresses their own citizens, not the US senators.

      Here! This is for me an indicator of whether this is the opposition, or the fifth column.
      Those who take money from the State Department inevitably decide his tasks, and not at all the tasks of your country.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 27 February 2013 10: 07
        -1
        "Those who take money from the State Department inevitably solve its problems, not the problems of their country."
        And whose tasks did Serdyukov solve? Let me remind you that the Kremlin paid him as an official salary.
        "And you can not let the clowns in the person of Kosyanov, Alekseev, Gudkov and Shevtsov go back, let them stay there" - you can, only EP will be against it. In general, this will not change the situation in the country. The government will remain corrupted as before and the traders will remain at the helm. And in general, no one cares about these clowns, add here Zyuganov, Zhirik, DAM, GDP and the entire composition of the State Duma. I think that in order for the situation in the country to improve, all these clowns should be sent away, and not a pitiful handful.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 February 2013 10: 16
          +7
          Quote: S_mirnov
          . I think that in order to improve the situation in the country, all these clowns should be sent away, and not a miserable handful.

          Here they constantly offer to send GDP to hell, but they have not yet answered my question: WHOM DO WE PLACE PUTIN IN PLACE? Until no one answered, maybe you are Smirnov? Last name in the studio pleats
          1. Apollo
            27 February 2013 10: 42
            +8
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Here they constantly offer to send GDP to hell, but they have not yet answered my question: WHOM DO WE PLACE PUTIN IN PLACE? Until no one answered, maybe you are Smirnov? Last name in the studio pleats


            I am one of V. Putin’s critics, but at the moment there’s no real alternative to him. That’s why no one can answer your question Alexander, this is the reality of today.
            1. TUMAN
              TUMAN 27 February 2013 16: 09
              +1
              Quote: Apollon
              I am one of the critics of V. Putin, but at the moment there is no real alternative to him.

              Apollo, do you think there is no worthy person in Russia? So, under Boriska, they thought that it wasn’t, but now, there was an unknown GDP! So, if you want today, you can find a worthy person. Or to do, with today's media - it is possible! Yes, and so did the GDP! A simple question: who needs it? Here is the reality of today! What at Boriska, now that Russia is dependent!
              1. bask
                bask 27 February 2013 16: 22
                +2
                Quote: TUMAN
                then under Boriska, now Russia is dependent!

                Now the situation in Russia is heating up. Due to the enthusiasm and mass transition of Islamic youth from traditional Islam to Wahhabism. Social stratification in society is growing. The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. Need a change of course. Without a change in the country's leader, this is not possible.
          2. fishermanfriend
            fishermanfriend 27 February 2013 13: 24
            +4
            Lukashenko.A.G
          3. TUMAN
            TUMAN 27 February 2013 16: 01
            -1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Last name in the studio pleats

            And what in Russia, acre of GDP, there is no worthy person? Offer Kvachkova!
          4. Phase
            Phase 27 February 2013 19: 32
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Here they constantly offer to send GDP to hell, but they have not yet answered my question: WHOM DO WE PUT INSTEAD OF PUTIN?

            It seems to me that there is no alternative to Putin now
          5. fishermanfriend
            fishermanfriend 27 February 2013 21: 32
            +1
            Lukashenko. A.G. I repeat again. I await your answer Alexander Romanov
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 27 February 2013 23: 13
              +2
              Quote: fishermanfrend
              Lukashenko.A.G

              What leave for Ukraine? Let's get it better to us, and then it will be possible to move to the Russian Federation! drinks
        2. Uncle Serozha
          Uncle Serozha 27 February 2013 10: 28
          +13
          Alexander, this is not the first time I disagree with your comment, and nevertheless, I’m adding it. Due to the fact that he is at least reasoned and clearly dictated by his indifference to the fate of his own country. And being completely agree with you in the sense of goal setting, I do not completely share your view on how to solve the problem.
          Quote: S_mirnov
          And whose tasks did Serdyukov solve? Let me remind you that the Kremlin paid him as an official salary.

          Yes it is. But how many more times can I repeat that politics is an art the possible? Imagine that Putin, having taken the presidency of the Russian Federation (and he was appointed there to observe the interests of the Yeltsin oligarchs and the entrenched fifth column), he would immediately start sending the State Department to the forest right off the bat. How long would he sit at his post? A week? Two? As they put it, they would have removed it ...
          For which I respect the GDP, that being put as a puppet, he slowly cut one thread after another, skillfully pushing puppeteers together. Oops - Berezovsky is no longer there. Bam and Khodorkovsky in a quilted jacket on a roll call ...
          Yes, not fast. But it will not work faster. The situation that has suffered GDP since the 90s is a minefield. With a huge number of proteges of the local and foreign oligarchy, with a heavy legacy of the treaties signed then.
          Yes, he had to give a lot, what a sin to conceal. And he will not be able to quickly end the theft of officials, because he is surrounded by them. But he is persistent ... VERY persistent ... wink

          PS I am far from turning a blind eye to the flaws in modern Russia. But Moscow, and it wasn’t immediately built, where is the Empire ...
          1. maximus_1974
            maximus_1974 27 February 2013 12: 33
            +3
            I agree with you! "... The commander must think, and not just wave a saber ...."
        3. TUMAN
          TUMAN 27 February 2013 15: 59
          +1
          Quote: S_mirnov
          I think that in order to improve the situation in the country, all these clowns should be sent away, and not a miserable handful.

          Awww, people, but what are the cons?
    3. bask
      bask 27 February 2013 11: 32
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      LLO MOSKVICHI, where you all who voted for Putin, Zhirik and Zyugan

      Muscovites who voted for them periodically beat their faces to the native Muscovites.
  3. Renat
    Renat 27 February 2013 05: 51
    +2
    Dogs - Desident in the kennel and under the concrete sarcophagus.
    Comrades Chinese, give us money so that we will crush you further. INTERESTING!!!
    1. alexng
      alexng 27 February 2013 06: 33
      +14
      These are not dissidents - these are ordinary traitors to the homeland and the interests of Russia. Now, in addition, they have turned into ordinary spies working for the country who want the collapse of Russia. It is necessary to create a militia, but like SMERSH and hammer them at every step so that under them the earth burns underfoot. And it’s better not to let them back into our country and add them to Dima Yakovlev’s list. Let them live where they were fed. angry And after the collapse of the United States, potassium was generally sent to Africa for permanent residence.
  4. Vanek
    Vanek 27 February 2013 05: 57
    +11
    So far, Lyudmila Alekseeva, Mikhail Kasyanov, Dmitry Gudkov and Lilia Shevtsova have been announced from Russia, but other oppositionists may also appear.

    Russian special services know the enemy in person. Hence the question.

    - Why not?

    Hello to everyone hi
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 27 February 2013 07: 25
      +5
      Quote: Vanek
      Hello to everyone

      And to you personally, hi ! laughing !
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 27 February 2013 08: 27
      +4
      Quote: Vanek
      Russian special services know the enemy in person. Hence the question.

      - Why not?

      Maybe another question:
      - How long?
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 27 February 2013 09: 56
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets
        - How long?


        As an option.

        Eugene, Victor hi
  5. horoh
    horoh 27 February 2013 06: 08
    +9
    It is necessary to shoot such scum. Not letting anything go will not decide, they abroad will scream at the top of their lungs in violation of the "democratic foundations of society". Recognize them as traitors and shoot them as enemies of the people !!!
    1. andrejwz
      andrejwz 27 February 2013 06: 26
      +1
      Quote: horoh
      they are screaming at the top of their lungs abroad will be violations of the "democratic foundations of society"

      Let them shout abroad. If you croak all the time, you see, they’ll guess something in the case.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 27 February 2013 09: 15
      +5
      Quote: horoh
      Recognize them as traitors and shoot them as enemies of the people !!!

      Oh! Well, just the same!
      "The Ministry of Health of Russia reports on a new strain of influenza, which has a lethal effect on all those infected with oppositional crap ideas" or sensation in the newspaper
      "An incomprehensible wave of accidents that look like completely natural deaths swept across Russia! It is with regret to announce the death of prominent opposition figures ...." fellow
      Good day to all!
  6. VadimSt
    VadimSt 27 February 2013 06: 12
    +8
    Judah practicing their 30 pieces of silver. Too much let them bark. This is not the opposition - opposition representatives are sitting in the State Duma, and these should be sitting on bunks. Legislators themselves must forever determine where the opposition ends and high treason begins.
  7. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 27 February 2013 06: 30
    +6
    Lyudmila Alekseeva, Mikhail Kasyanov, Dmitry Gudkov and Lilia Shevtsova - and other trash, I support the above with a proposal to evict, or rather deprive of citizenship, to incriminate separatism, or anti-state actions, for calls for violation of the constitutional order and other things, most likely each of them, there is a second citizenship in the west - to declare persons non grata, or an analogue of the Magnitsky list, even under the threat of criminal prosecution, with confiscation of property on the territory of the Russian Federation .... this is not understandable at all - a couple of imbeciles are offered to crucify the country in which they were born with its inhabitants economically and politically! ???? they don’t need such people in the country - I’m more than sure - in the USA it’s not like citizens - such people would not be planted there for a long time, but then they’re busy with them (((((
  8. Apollo
    27 February 2013 06: 37
    +8
    Good morning everybody! hi

    quote-Among them: the early deployment of missile defense systems in Europe, no cuts in the military budget, the achievement of the complete superiority of all US space, land, air and sea forces in Europe and Eurasia.

    if such advice to the American president is given by a "citizen" of Russia, then I put the word "citizen" in quotation marks. Only enemy Russia. Yes, Vladimir Kara Murza crossed all the lines. am

    quote-this “rally” will not only not help the Russian opposition, but will also significantly harm it, as it will practically confirm the words of the Russian leadership about the “Washington hand” on its pulse.

    will no longer help or harm. because they have put themselves outside the legal framework. It is necessary to film this "meeting" and show it on all TV channels, let the country personally see its "heroes", or to be more precise scoundrels in the literal and figurative sense of the word.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 February 2013 06: 41
      +7
      Quote: Apollon
      It is necessary to film this "meeting" and show it on all TV channels, let the country see with its own eyes its "heroes", to be more precise scoundrels in the literal and figurative sense of the word.

      Hi Apollo! You can remove and show, but you remember how much the stench was from them when Udaltsov was shown with the curator Gruzin. Depriving of citizenship and eviction without the right to return is for life !!! Nobody needs them there, they will die in garbage dumps.
      1. Apollo
        27 February 2013 06: 59
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You can remove and show, but you remember how much the stench was from them when Udaltsov was shown with the curator Gruzin. Depriving of citizenship and eviction without the right to return is for life !!! Nobody needs them there, they will die in garbage dumps.


        Good morning, Alexander! hi

        And yet they must be removed and shown, without cuts, this time, it will be the end of their "political career". Imho.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 February 2013 07: 04
          +4
          Quote: Apollon
          this will be the end of their "political career"

          Apollo, yes they have no political career !!! The journalists make advertisements for them in the media, they won’t show them on TV, after a year they don’t remember who they are or where they are from.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 27 February 2013 07: 28
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And yet they must be removed and shown, without cuts, this time, it will be the end of their "political career". Imho.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Journalists are doing them an advertisement in the media.

            Apollo, hi !, Sasha is right, and paid from the same funds, from where they receive "salary" all this scum.
    2. VEKT
      VEKT 27 February 2013 08: 40
      +2
      Well, for such proposals, the American Senates still need to thank them, the amerikosy already have no money for anything, but they offer them additional expenses, and the money for "democracy" that they are given, they themselves safely saw good
  9. Drill
    Drill 27 February 2013 06: 41
    +3
    Comrades! Let's throw off the ruble per killer.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 February 2013 06: 50
      +5
      Quote: Drill

      Comrades! Let's throw off the ruble per killer.

      Look for a killer, I give 100 rubles wink
  10. Predator-74
    Predator-74 27 February 2013 06: 42
    +1
    As A. Dante said in his "Divine Comedy": "This is the essence of the child of darkness ...".
    Instead of solving their huge problems, everyone thinks that we should be worthless. angry
  11. ochakow703
    ochakow703 27 February 2013 06: 50
    +5
    Something terrible is happening under the sky of Russia. At that time, when it was seen that the traitors walked freely, they were only for the fact that they simply said disgusting things from the Amer’s rostrum. Damn, it’s brain breaking again, everything seems to be understood and appreciated, but again I want it 37 years!
    1. maximus_1974
      maximus_1974 27 February 2013 12: 42
      0
      Quote: ochakow703
      When seen

      beginning of XX century.
  12. Renat
    Renat 27 February 2013 06: 50
    +2
    The greatness of the country can be determined by the number of jackals yapping at it. Unfortunately, they themselves were fed.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 27 February 2013 09: 21
      +3
      Quote: Renat
      The greatness of the country can be determined by the number of jackals yapping at it

      That's just they should yap out of the cage in the zoo! And to take children there and show - that is what democracy can bring.
  13. Garrin
    Garrin 27 February 2013 06: 55
    +3
    So far, Lyudmila Alekseeva, Mikhail Kasyanov, Dmitry Gudkov and Lilia Shevtsova have been announced from Russia, but other oppositionists may also appear. On the eve of the rally, feature articles were published by Freedom House and Lilia Shevtsova, so no special sensations are expected, although who knows?

    I read it to become and immediately a question arose in my head. Are all the channels already dug in Russia? And if even that, then it would be time to expand the White Sea-Baltic.
  14. bap063
    bap063 27 February 2013 07: 06
    +3
    And finally, how much can you liberalize with them? No one needs to go to hard labor or to Siberia - it will not be democratic, is this a very compelling argument so far? They need to be quickly made not entry back to Russia, but here everything must be confiscated to the seventh knee and everyone should also be expelled for the cordon, that’s the only way it will be possible to restore order in our country, It’s beyond arrogance,
    here they enrich themselves and here they try to shit on the same plate, it should not be so!
  15. bddrus
    bddrus 27 February 2013 08: 06
    +3
    Channel 1 is often reproached for its rosy and pro-Kremlin presentation of information - this is the case where show everything beautifully and you can even praise the representatives of the "independent opposition" who bravely and patriotically went to Obama to ask for help in the fight against "regime". ALL! there is no need to even "stigmatize" - the gentlemen did everything themselves! Here you don't even know who to call the pocket opposition - the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Wed, Liberal Democratic Party, or these "unsystematic" who work more for the "Kremlin" by their actions than the "Kremlin" itself. And then those with .... will be hysterical on the theme that "redneck again votes for Putin."
  16. Fox
    Fox 27 February 2013 08: 13
    +4
    guys, you are somehow bloodthirsty narrow-minded ... you can't deprive this crap of life or freedom. Then they will become great martyrs. It is best to show them in an unsightly form, pitiful and funny, so that when any of them goes to the podium, people would wait for "CLOWNS "and not personalities. then the sense will be for many years to come.
    1. bddrus
      bddrus 27 February 2013 16: 36
      0
      I don’t even mind if they are shown to be proud and serious at an appointment with the Secretary of the State Department or the Senate, or where they all ask
  17. Vladimir_61
    Vladimir_61 27 February 2013 08: 18
    +2
    They even need their masters only for a while and despised by them, since traitors cannot be relied on. Let them be revealed for the time being, the easier it will be to end them. The time will come, there will be no place anywhere and no one will come to the rescue, one end to the Jews.
  18. JonnyT
    JonnyT 27 February 2013 08: 40
    +1
    I don’t understand why Putin’s regime didn’t please them ??? We sell oil and other resources cheaply ....... we do not express aggression ...... to see US senators shaking from greed that they cannot sleep at night ...... Ugh, evil !!!

    When a true leader and patriot will be in power in Russia, then they will remember Putin as a holy man ..... now so we are going to meet them in many ways, they don’t appreciate .s..ki !!!
  19. afire
    afire 27 February 2013 08: 46
    +1
    Lilia Shevtsova, leading scientific fund employee, offers .....
    laughing laughing laughing
  20. Miha_Skif
    Miha_Skif 27 February 2013 08: 52
    +8
    Eh, and I almost fell for the title of the article ... It's a pity, it's a pity that this is just another sabbath of our "best friends" feel
  21. engineer74
    engineer74 27 February 2013 09: 41
    +3
    Pleased with the proposals of Kara-Murza, he does not seem to be aware that R. Reagan has long died. wassat
  22. Averias
    Averias 27 February 2013 09: 47
    +1
    Quote: "early deployment of missile defense systems in Europe,"

    In how, it means "Russian" to the Americans. It's just like an anecdote. Did you ask Europe? This is an eloquent indicator of who Europe is for the United States. Like - And we will not ask you.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 27 February 2013 10: 22
      +2
      We have given birth to a whole program of action for the USA! And in Moscow, only "Putin go away!" shouted ... what
  23. zambo
    zambo 27 February 2013 09: 50
    +3
    Something like this ...
  24. djon3volta
    djon3volta 27 February 2013 09: 54
    +8
    and who destroyed the USSR, weren't Muscovites? the first hamsters appeared 20 years ago, and they live in Moscow. here are those who are against Putin, whose side I don’t understand ??? you either do not understand, or consciously play along with America ? How can one be against Putin if America / the West is against Putin, you understand that very well! or don’t understand? fool when you write komenty against Putin you don’t understand that you are on the enemy’s side at that moment, do you understand it or not?
    1. maximus_1974
      maximus_1974 27 February 2013 12: 53
      +5
      so we always have it, two capitals light up, and we, as usual, disentangle our bast shoes. It is necessary to introduce May Day demonstrations into the obligatory system, the people will hang out, the crowd will swell, they will shout slogans and be satisfied. May Day in the 80s was canceled, rallies of op-pa-pazitsy began. laughing
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 27 February 2013 13: 24
        0
        Quote: maximus_1974
        two capitals are lit, and as usual we disentangle our bast shoes.

        here I am about it!
  25. Tuzik
    Tuzik 27 February 2013 10: 00
    +8
    we also need to take to the streets, rally against liberals and gays, but so far everyone is either a bummer, or they’re working, we’re sitting and watching the Zionist organizers drive the corrupt majors to the square, carrying out the strategic plan to weaken and destroy a potentially dangerous state
    The authorities need to react more strictly to anti-Russian events and statements. Tolerance will not bring to good.
  26. Aleks28
    Aleks28 27 February 2013 10: 29
    +6
    I read the article, already takes disgust. If you meet such people on the street, without hesitation you need to spit in a mug am
  27. Pacifist
    Pacifist 27 February 2013 10: 35
    +1
    T. varieties are corrupt. Every time you read about them how you fell into the sewers, you want to go to the bathhouse, wash the shit ...
  28. crambol
    crambol 27 February 2013 11: 12
    +6
    All this political punks believes that when dividing the wreckage of Russia (God forbid!) They will get a good chunk of fidelity. Big mistake! Traitors, defectors have never been penniless around the world, because once betrayed, a person will betray in the second.
  29. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 27 February 2013 11: 31
    +4
    Democracy is already an abusive word long ago!
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 27 February 2013 13: 25
      -1
      Quote: SPIRITofFREEDOM
      Democracy is already an abusive word long ago!
  30. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 27 February 2013 11: 36
    +2
    While they are there, they need to be deprived of their citizenship and then the border guards will not let them go stupidly back. Business something.
  31. deman73
    deman73 27 February 2013 11: 55
    +1
    It’s time for these shit to enter the country, especially since they all have dual citizenship
  32. optimist
    optimist 27 February 2013 12: 00
    -1
    I still can't understand: people are really so naive that they believe in this utter nonsense ??? That a bunch of some kind of black-and-white snoopers whom our propaganda has recorded in the "opposition" is the opposition? It was just necessary to spit out the "steam" from the "cattle": so they concocted a show for d.ee.i.l.o.v. Sobchak and Nemtsov opposition ???, - I beg you ... For the current government it is better to have "their" opposition. And then you look, "Kvachkov" from all sides will climb !!!
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 27 February 2013 13: 29
      0
      Quote: optimist
      It is better for the current government to have "their own" opposition.

      You want to say that Putin secretly gathered Nemtsov, Udaltsov, Navalny, Chirikov and bought them, like they say you rally against me, just don’t tell anyone that I came up with it wassat . Your logic looks something like this. Do you yourself believe in your own words that the Kremlin created the opposition? laughing
      1. optimist
        optimist 27 February 2013 15: 47
        +1
        Yes, I do not just believe, but I am SURE! Anyone who really opposes the current government (and not how we all chatter on the forums), either goes to prison, like Kvachkov, or is quietly killed somewhere in the wasteland by "unidentified persons". Any adequate person who has looked at these CLOWNS, shown to us by the relevant media, understands that the "revolutionaries" are like a bullet from DUMS. Remember the story: until October 1917, almost no one knew about the Bolsheviks: there were only about 17 thousand of them in 180 million Russia. And now we will learn about new revolutionaries only when the revolution begins. laughing
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 27 February 2013 17: 31
      +1
      Quote: optimist
      And then you look, "Kvachkov" from all sides will climb !!!


      It would be good!!! But we can only dream about it.
  33. Bosk
    Bosk 27 February 2013 12: 05
    +3
    Sometimes it seems that our opposition is looking for support not from its people but from the moneybags over the hill ..... dislikes its people and their homeland ... The opposition should be constructive, and here ... somehow everything is based on blackening. ..no design.
  34. maximus_1974
    maximus_1974 27 February 2013 12: 19
    0
    "We have enough ice axes for everyone.": Joseph Vissarionovich said, drawing on deeply and slyly squinting his eyes.
  35. silver_roman
    silver_roman 27 February 2013 13: 59
    0
    Lilia Shevtsova is an excellent example of my steadfastness in the fact that women should be in the kitchen. it is harmful for them, in principle, to think about political and geopolitical things. she thinks such nonsense .... it would not be bad as long as the entire opposition hangs out in Washington, create some list of "homeland transmitters" and include there all those who are at the "lectures" at the amerikos so that they simply do not enter the Russian Federation ... that would be the case ... it's a pity you can't crying
  36. Galinanp
    Galinanp 27 February 2013 14: 33
    +1
    In my opinion, it is time for decisive, consistent action against the West. After all, the Soros Foundation, Yusaid, the Salvation Army slammed. Now we need to wet the enemies with blocs, for example, with a party: Karen’s fod, memorial, solidarity, etc.
    And feel free to plant, because the law on state. treason.
  37. crambol
    crambol 27 February 2013 15: 26
    0
    Quote: optimist
    I still can’t understand: people are really so naive that they believe in this nonsense ???

    Dear Optimist! There was such a .. ..- Goebbels, the Minister of Propaganda, who said that the grosser the lie, the sooner they believe in it. The Germans believed then, and sowing. Koreans now. Only it all ends very badly for the people.
  38. Region65
    Region65 27 February 2013 15: 31
    0
    The gathering began on February 21 ...... gygygy)))) we went means slaves to receive the Jews salaries))))))))
  39. Polytechnic
    Polytechnic 27 February 2013 16: 56
    +1
    And after all, they so bluntly declare that they are allocating funds for the opposition in Russia, this is the same as saying - "Yes, we are waging a war and the destruction of Russia, we are paying swindlers and thieves!" , while there are people who believe that the United States wishes us well and prosperity. It's funny.
  40. serega52
    serega52 27 February 2013 17: 01
    0
    Hmm, how many TROLLES are here, the money has already been allocated, but they will not be justified!
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 27 February 2013 17: 34
      0
      Quote: serega52
      Hmm, how many TROLLES are here, the money has already been allocated, but they will not be justified!

      Are you a trolling expert and financier, moreover?
  41. Black
    Black 27 February 2013 17: 58
    0
    Bitch of course ...
    I’m looking at this lady from the Helsinki rock band ..... and I wish her many years, and so that she will lead this group for a long time .... and show her more often in the box ... close up ..... you look and fewer hamsters in the country will be.
  42. igor12
    igor12 27 February 2013 19: 53
    +1
    Such as Navalny, Udaltsov, Lyudochka and their whole company, after all, were born in Russia, this country is their homeland, but there is clouding in their heads, they really want their homeland to obey the United States, a country wreaking havoc as we see in the world and devastation, they are somehow strange, I don’t know? Obviously schizophrenics, and hidden, because they are not who does not treat.
  43. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 28 February 2013 03: 37
    0
    Lists! Name lists in the studio. It's time to turn the "opposition" into real outcasts ... without property and livelihood, in debt and preferably drug addicts!