"We killed 4700 people, but this is war." US Senator revealed the number of victims of drones

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"We killed 4700 people, but this is war." US Senator revealed the number of victims of drones

US Republican Senator Lindsey Graham made a loud statement at a club in the small town of Isley, South Carolina. Protecting Drones as a method of fighting terrorists in the Middle East, he cited the total death toll from such strikes, according to EasyPatch. This is despite the fact that in the eight years during which drones have been used, the statistics of victims at the official level have never been cited.

“We killed 4700 people,” the senator said. “Sometimes innocent people get hit, I hate it, but this is war, and we have destroyed some very important representatives of al-Qaida.”

Graham, known for supporting the use of UAVs in the fight against militants of terrorist organizations, despite criticism of this method in the US Congress, once again presented his arguments. "It - weaponwhich should be used. We do not have troops on the territory of Pakistan and Afghanistan, otherwise we cannot control the movement of militants there, "he said.

According to him, Congress seems to be "crazy" about the idea that the attack of specific targets with the help of UAVs should be coordinated. He cited the example of the destruction of Anvar al-Awlaki, an American-born imam in 2011, who was considered the ideological leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, and after the death of Osama bin Laden al-Awlaki was declared the US number one terrorist. "I do not want to be tried. We are not dealing with any crime, it is a war," Graham repeated once more. He also suggested using drones to guard the borders of the United States to curb illegal immigration.

It is not clear whether the senator in his report cited government data, or whether the number of UAV victims is based on his own estimates. “He is the first to disclose this information,” Mick Zenko, a representative of the Council on Foreign Relations, quoted by ABC News. “If it turns out that these are official figures, then the question of bringing Graham to justice for disclosing state secrets may be raised,” Zenko suggested.

According to investigative journalism, as a result of UAV strikes from 2004, only in Pakistan from 2,6 thousand to 3,4 thousand people died, the number of civilians among them ranges from 470 to 900, Interfax notes.

Lindsay Graham, a US Senator from South Carolina since 2003, who has never witnessed military events, is known as a defender of military interventions. So, in 2012, he proposed leaving at least 12 thousands of American soldiers in Iraq, “so that the country would not turn into hell,” when, as is known, there are only 2011 military consultants there since 200.
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  1. +2
    21 February 2013 18: 37
    Well, that’s all right - to use UAVs to destroy the interventionists in Iraq and Afghanistan - the Saxophone. We will be very sorry
    1. +3
      21 February 2013 19: 10
      Buxx,
      If gringos were sent by drones against real terrorists, then the flag would be in their hands. But the reality is different - they destroy everyone in a row. Including civilians in sovereign states.
      1. Che
        Che
        +2
        22 February 2013 07: 46
        Sandov,
        Amer first create terrorists and then fight them. Felts are blunt-headed felts just for all of us. Just a blood business.
  2. 755962
    +2
    21 February 2013 18: 50
    Lindsay Graham who never witnessed military events

    I would have visited the devil's house, otherwise I would have sang ... The Yankees liked to play "these" toys so much that they would put the main rate on the UAV. There is no particular hunt for the soldiers, hence the conclusion .. And they will stamp drones, although problems can also arise with "candy wrappers".
    1. 0
      21 February 2013 19: 03
      CF 35 didn’t work out like that ...
  3. +3
    21 February 2013 19: 04
    Well, let them play with their unmanned eroplanes, all one war and on the front end, but there they will be oh how bad
  4. DERWISH
    +3
    21 February 2013 19: 10
    Yes !!! in an American way it’s democratic to kill a civilian population !!!! a video in Iraq confirms that even the wounded to finish it so democratic in an American way !!! bullshit fucking
  5. Intel Inside
    +3
    21 February 2013 19: 35
    There is no war without casualties, especially if it is a war on terror. After all, everyone understands perfectly well that "the warriors of Allah" hide behind mosques, schools, kindergartens.
    1. 755962
      +1
      21 February 2013 20: 05
      That's strange, the idea is absolutely correct, but they slammed the minus ...
      Quote: Intel Inside
      everyone understands perfectly well that the "warriors of Allah" hide behind mosques, schools, kindergartens.
      1. -1
        22 February 2013 19: 24
        Quote: 755962
        That's strange, the idea is absolutely correct, but they slammed the minus ...
        Quote: Intel Inside
        everyone understands perfectly well that the "warriors of Allah" hide behind mosques, schools, kindergartens.

        I guess why. Because amers first create a scarecrow, and then fight with it.
    2. Oleg Rosskiyy
      +1
      21 February 2013 23: 24
      Quote: Intel Inside
      There is no war without casualties, especially if it is a war on terror. After all, everyone understands perfectly well that "the warriors of Allah" hide behind mosques, schools, kindergartens.

      This is true, only there is no need to differentiate, "this terrorist is for us, and this one is not ours," and if we have already begun this struggle, then fight without raising some and denigrating others, crush them all.
      1. Intel Inside
        0
        22 February 2013 21: 05
        Are you talking about the Russian leadership now?
    3. 0
      22 February 2013 02: 47
      Intel Inside, I think that if a kindergarten or a school with your child were captured, and instead of special forces, the T-90 would go into business. You probably about ... I would be happy?
      1. Intel Inside
        0
        22 February 2013 21: 09
        I would direct my anger and anger at those animals that were hiding behind this kindergarten and school. In your opinion, it means that the victims that were in Beslan were barbarously killed by special forces. And yet, I did not switch to "you".
  6. +5
    21 February 2013 19: 47
    Each of you, of course, is right in his own way, BUT .... maybe we are afraid to admit to ourselves that somewhere deep down we envy them, because we don’t have such cars, I honestly tell everyone, YES , I ENVY THEM. YES, I HAPPY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE SUCH TECHNOLOGY !!!!!! but I believe, WE WILL.
    1. +1
      21 February 2013 22: 00
      I would like the Russian Federation to have similar "toys", well, alas ... I completely agree with you ... "WE SHOULD HAVE!"
  7. -2
    21 February 2013 19: 48
    A typical face of chronic binge ... that's how you have to pour alcohol into the mental consequences of bad "work". And gallant words ... just words.
  8. kukuruzo
    +2
    21 February 2013 19: 55
    the war is losing its face. The moral has been completely lost ... the anonymous killers for whom to kill is a computer game ... behind these numbers are large percentages of dead, peaceful people
    1. Kubanets
      0
      22 February 2013 02: 09
      Fighting without artillery is just banal stabbing - Bonopart
  9. Octavian avgust
    +2
    21 February 2013 19: 59
    That’s democracy! Killing everyone indiscriminately. Okay, terrorists, but for what peace?
    1. Oleg Rosskiyy
      +1
      21 February 2013 23: 29
      Quote: Octavian avgust
      That’s democracy! Killing everyone indiscriminately. Okay, terrorists, but for what peace?

      Well, it's not the Americans? You can’t even think about harming them, you will immediately ring out, like Victor Butt (although he didn’t even think about it), and the rest are the costs of the war, such is the Western truth of life.
  10. -2
    21 February 2013 20: 09
    I’m doing the right thing, we need to kill more and our method of arming is taken by Muslims, Muslims do not consider Christians as people and we have nothing to consider them people
  11. 0
    21 February 2013 20: 18
    “We killed 4700 people,” the senator said. “Sometimes innocent people get hit, I hate it, but this is war, and we have destroyed some very important representatives of al-Qaida.”
    What is the percentage of these same representatives? I doubt that they will reach 50.
  12. +4
    21 February 2013 20: 21
    “We killed 4700 people,” the senator said. “Sometimes innocent people get hit, I hate it, but this is war, and we have destroyed some very important representatives of al-Qaida.”

    Why be surprised that a hodgepodge is fighting against the United States in Afghanistan. Who will avenge, who is behind the idea, who according to religious concepts and who gain experience. After such statements, they will increase their enemies, although sometimes it seems that this is a chain of some kind of game? They make half of the world themselves, then fight it - controlled anger!
  13. +2
    21 February 2013 20: 22
    I honestly admitted that the USA is the first violator of international laws! To list him.
  14. +1
    21 February 2013 20: 25
    The senator is right. This is war. Only all rights in it belong to the defending party. And the amers are the striker. They are right - like any aggressor. This is the only right - the right of power. The right to kill the innocent - and innocent, legally, all whom America killed in this war, because no court found them guilty and they did not declare war on America.
    America - a state of runaway criminals - behaves as a worthy successor to their cause. And he lies the same way.
  15. sxn278619
    +1
    21 February 2013 21: 10
    There are no rules or codes in war. Terrorism is the answer of the weak against the strong.
    As Zinoviev said - how to kill an elephant with a mouse.
  16. +1
    21 February 2013 21: 36
    Well, we kill a hundred people. If basically they are innocent but still among them at least one criminal is caught. End justifies the means. The position of the powers that be.
  17. Cpa
    +1
    21 February 2013 21: 37
    Do not create illusions, the leaders of the militants are destroyed in the most barbarous, but reliable way, remotely. The reasons are obvious: the killed militant will not tell anyone anything, the same is done with us. Plus, with a remote strike, there will be no listeners and witnesses. They are clearing their tails, 4700 loss of life for them is not at all price.
  18. Intel Inside
    +1
    21 February 2013 22: 04
    Well, it’s already unpleasant to realize that we are behind technologically, we invest in these technologies, but they are stolen, and then our guys pay for it in hot spots. We are wetting the enemy with live force, but this is the last century.
    1. +1
      21 February 2013 22: 35
      This is all clear. But the fact of the matter is that if ours somewhere by chance destroy civilians, then in the world press a hysterical howl will immediately rise.
  19. 0
    21 February 2013 22: 32
    According to investigative journalism, as a result of UAV strikes from 2004, only in Pakistan from 2,6 thousand to 3,4 thousand people died, the number of civilians among them ranges from 470 to 900, Interfax notes.
    It seems that the US is waging an undeclared war against Pakistan, which does not dare to particularly resent
  20. Alikovo
    +1
    21 February 2013 23: 07
    cattle! 4700 civilians were killed. and these are our praised democrats.
  21. Grishka100watt
    0
    21 February 2013 23: 14
    And they call it protection of drones))))
    That is, the drone flies over another state, wets everyone in a row, protecting itself)
    cool
  22. +1
    22 February 2013 06: 06
    I have long ceased to be surprised at American cynicism.
  23. progserega
    +2
    22 February 2013 06: 53
    “I don’t want to be tried. We are not dealing with some crime, this is war,” Graham repeated again. He also suggested using drones to guard US borders to curb illegal immigration.


    This is the abolition of the judicial system in principle. The only strategy officially announced is the power law of those who have power in the United States.

    After this, it’s difficult to talk about any foundations and principles of Western society.

    Still, it's one thing when it is done secretly, and another thing when this "right to lawlessness" is postulated as a norm. This already smacks of either madness or the collapse of the Western system.
  24. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    +1
    22 February 2013 08: 29
    But we do not need drones, we use cannon fodder, it’s cheaper .....

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