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There will be no NATO bases in Azerbaijan. Neither the military nor the "transshipment"

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There will be no NATO bases in Azerbaijan. Neither the military nor the "transshipment"Alexey Sinitsyn, chief expert of the US-Azerbaijan Fund promote progress:

- For almost a whole decade, information that has never been confirmed by anyone has been circulating in the world media: Azerbaijan is ready to provide the former Soviet military airfields that remained on its territory after the collapse of the USSR, under the US or Israeli Air Force bases, thereby voluntarily placing on itself mission to serve as a springboard for Western attacks on Iran. Moreover, some agencies at different times reported on deployment in Azerbaijan. aviation groups of Americans, and the most far-sighted "noticed" even the units of the Israeli and American special forces on the Azerbaijani-Iranian border. Well, and quite recently, apparently, with the light hand of Iranian political scientists from IRAS - the Institute for the Study of Modern Iran and Eurasia - information appeared about “negotiations between representatives of Azerbaijan and NATO on the use of Azerbaijani territory to organize a transshipment base where the troops of the North Atlantic Alliance will be withdrawn from Afghanistan. ". Moreover, it is emphasized that this discussion began immediately after the unsuccessful completion of the Russian-Azerbaijani negotiations on the extension of the lease of the Gabala radar station. And to top it all off, IRAS announced that "with the deployment of a military base on the territory of Azerbaijan, the entire Caspian region and the North Caucasus of the Russian Federation will be in the Pentagon's reach."

It seems that everyone has already agreed that the threat of war between the West and Israel against Iran has lost its relevance in the short term. But even if this military operation of the West is again put on the agenda, will the opponents of Tehran somehow involve Azerbaijan in their military plans? Immediately there is a counter question: why do they need it?

Только на территории Саудовской Аравии - прямо «напротив» Ирана, через Персидский Залив - размещены пять крупных американских баз ВВС: «Принц Султан», «Король Абдель Азиз», «Король Фахд», «Король Халед» и «Искан-Вилладж». Теперь, вот, стало известно еще об одной секретной базе drones. Лишь на одном Аравийском полуострове более двух десятков крупных авиационных, военно-морских и сухопутных баз - в Кувейте, Бахрейне, Катаре, Объединенных Арабских Эмиратах и Омане. А ведь США могут еще без проблем сконцентрировать в зоне Залива мощную авианосную ударную группу с двумя, а то и с тремя авианосцами - Abraham Lincoln, Carl Vinson и Enterprise.

Exactly a year ago, when Iranian-American relations sharply deteriorated, large transport aircraft C-17, C-130, E-8 and Rad-Aid detection aircraft, RC-135 and RC-10, appeared on the al-Ubeid airbase in Qatar. P-3 Orion naval reconnaissance, and, most importantly, a squadron of six B-1B strategic bombers capable of carrying super heavy bombs to destroy Iran’s nuclear-sheltered nuclear facilities. Former Soviet airfields, non-equipped by NATO standards, are not able to accept such an armada.

By the way, the Americans have never stated that they intend to sign with Baku the standard legal act “On the Status of Forces” (Status of Forces Agreement, SOFA), i.e. a contract that determines the status of those present in the territory of another state of the US Armed Forces. And what kind of military facilities against Iran, the United States could deploy in Azerbaijan? The answer is obvious - either the main operating bases (Main Operating Bases, MOB) or the advanced operating bases (Forward Operating Bases, FOB). However, in the presence of enormous power, concentrated along the perimeter of the western, southern and eastern Iranian borders, there is no military necessity in them. And then, such a combat deployment implies huge financial and resource costs. It would be necessary to re-equip Azerbaijani airfields according to NATO standards, create a logistical infrastructure, and provide reliable cover for military facilities with anti-aircraft defenses. And the new administration of President Obama speaks, let us say, for the optimization of military spending and to create costly “bridgeheads” for the sake of not so much military as political goals, it is clearly not right now.

If the conversation turned to political goals, then how can one not notice that the fears of Americans are now concentrated not so much around Iran as in the Asia-Pacific basin. And should they, with the appearance of new Asian challenges and threats, literally push their bases under the borders with the Russian Federation? Even the Republican administration, which is frantically concerned with the creation of an antimissile defense system in Eastern Europe, did not want to use the territory of Georgia for these purposes, although President Saakashvili was ready to provide the United States with such a service.

And the assumptions that the United States, evacuating troops from Afghanistan, by some incredible maneuver will leave them in Azerbaijan under the guise of the so-called, look quite incredible. "Transshipment base".

By the way, there are no “transshipment bases”. In the context of today's realities, it is necessary to speak, for example, not even about the landing and overloading air port (Aerial Port of Debarkation, APOD) or the General Security Point (Cooperative Security Location, CSL), but about the multimodal transit centers of the USA and NATO in Baku, Ulyanovsk , Constanze (Romania). They can provide air and ground transportation of goods along the same route. But no significant presence of NATO or purely American military personnel is required on any of these logistic points. How, then, thousands of brave Ji-Ai will be in Baku?

As for the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, Azerbaijan cannot become the focal point of the Afghan military transit. The United States has a lot of political and financial leverage to agree with Pakistan on the full reanimation of the Southern Distribution Network and to flood the Pakistani ports of Karachi and Qasim with goods sent from Afghanistan by the right time.

But the route from Afghanistan by planes to the already operating center in Ulyanovsk and then by trains to the Baltic countries is no less attractive for the USA and NATO. This route is permeated with modern transport infrastructure. It is noticeably shorter, cheaper and safer than transit through the whole of Central Asia, the Caspian Sea and the South Caucasus.

The United States, which has more than 770 military bases around the world, simply does not need new bases in Azerbaijan, and even on some bird rights. However, the main thing in the problem of “American bases on the territory of Azerbaijan” is neither the possibility or desire of the United States, but the position of Azerbaijan itself. Baku does not at all seek to be squeezed between two powerful geopolitical players - Russia and Iran, which, if there are Americans in Azerbaijan, will become extremely hostile to it. Therefore, Baku has repeatedly stated that it will not allow the appearance of foreign bases in the Azerbaijani borders. And a double interpretation of this position of Azerbaijan is impossible.
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  1. Renat
    Renat 14 February 2013 06: 56
    +2
    Complete nonsense. Who could have thought a couple of decades ago that there would be NATO on the territory of the Warsaw Treaty countries? Why go far there. In the USSR, the Yankees base. Even on our railway, the NATO echelons travel. Since this is not profitable for Russia, the base will appear there necessarily.
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 14 February 2013 14: 55
      +2
      "Since this is not beneficial for Russia, then a base will appear there without fail" Strange conclusion. rather, one should rejoice for the Azerbaijanis who boldly send Ameika to Jo ... poo. And to admit that our rulers openly lick the Americans, allowing them to transport NATO cargoes across our territory. That's all.
  2. fenix57
    fenix57 14 February 2013 07: 05
    +6
    In general, as I understand it- SLEEP QUIETLY DEAR RUSSIANSfrom here YOU nothing threatens. SOUTHERN SHAFT WILL NOT BE. If, if only Mr. Aliyev were to be displaced, yes, "his own" to the post-generally will be wonderful. hi
    1. Normal
      Normal 14 February 2013 07: 15
      +1
      Quote: fenix57
      If only Mr. Aliyev were to be displaced, yes, “our own” to the post-generally it would be wonderful.

      What's so wonderful? Immediately, our pseudo-state officials will open new offshores, and will buy estates in warm and comfortable regions (in addition to those already available). On the streets of Moscow and other large cities, "bentleys" and "lambolginas" with thugs at the wheel will be added. And of course, gasoline prices will only rise.
      There is nothing for "our" to do there, it is necessary to negotiate and be friends with those who are
    2. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 14 February 2013 07: 34
      0
      http://www.yapfiles.ru/files/555384/1d2b9ad5c1febee53a75b15d97edae07.flv?
      token = MDA1NTUzODQtMTM2MDgxMjc2Mw]

      for RUSSIA, the main danger is where it comes from (brainwashing of youth is in progress)
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 07: 35
      +1
      Quote: fenix57
      .If, even, and Mr. Aliyev to displace, yes "his" to the post-in general it will be wonderful.

      Yeah, he will be replaced by one like Saakashvilli. Aliyev growls, but does not bite, for now, anyway.
      The author here speaks about Interpraiz, so it was written off belay With regards to Lincoln, did someone post a bunch of posts with a half-sunken aircraft carrier, not Lincoln for an hour? (I do not remember)
      Given the financial situation of the United States (bankrupt), stupid printing of money no longer saves and most of the aircraft carriers are moored at the berths.
      According to the bases, Azerbaijan is more likely to make the Turkish base and not one than it will let the amers. Aliyev also looks at the Internet and sees the attitude of citizens towards the United States.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 14 February 2013 08: 23
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Given the financial situation of the United States (bankrupt), stupid printing of money no longer saves and most of the aircraft carriers are moored at the berths.

        CVN №72 "Abrasha Lyancoln" was supposed to "according to plan" stand on Four year old repair-modernization in Nurfulk.
        Considering the volume of production of UAVs for the Navy and the contracts performed for the main deck ship "super hornet", it turns out that they are not at the berths from "lack of money", and on major upgrades. hi

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        financial situation of the USA (bankrupt) stupid printing of money does not save anymore

        Each time, seeing, hearing, reading a similar thing about MATRAS, he is tempted to ask:
        And what did you do to make them bend !? (this is not a question to Alexander, but rhetoric)
        like this:

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    4. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 14 February 2013 07: 38
      +6



      FOR RUSSIA, THE MAIN DANGER IS WHERE FROM WHERE-is brainwashing of youth.
    5. Yarbay
      Yarbay 14 February 2013 13: 59
      +4
      Quote: fenix57
      If only Mr. Aliyev were to be displaced, yes, “our own” to the post-generally it would be wonderful

      And where do you find this ???
      Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others did everything so that there are none left !!
      It is good to relate to Russians, but not to Russian politics!
      And besides the forefathers who tried to be servants of Russia, your leaders unscrupulously betrayed and podstavil!
      Who will do it again ??
      You cannot find a better partner than the current President for yourself!
  3. Hammer
    Hammer 14 February 2013 07: 16
    +4
    What can I say - we’ll see through live. As they say - spring will show who and where he inherited.
    I do not completely agree with the author that the Americans need a possible military base in Azerbaijan only to strike Iran. Washington has a much wider range of strategic goals, including in Azerbaijan itself. Take, for example, Caspian oil, whose flows they want to control in Washington. The American military presence there will mean that Baku is being pulled into the orbit of Washington’s policies, which automatically means squeezing Moscow from there ...
    Yes, and in the attack on Tehran, Baku, a certain role is also registered. I am sure of this by 101%. I see this role as the fact that Israel / USA can use the airfields of Azerbaijan to carry out attacks / reconnaissance with them by drones. And for basing drones, special conditions are not necessary. And secrecy is much easier. It’s not for nothing that Jews have been rubbing lately, and Baku allegedly buys UAVs from Tel Aviv.
    So the author seems to me a little incompletely approached the consideration of this issue.
  4. domokl
    domokl 14 February 2013 07: 17
    +4
    Baku plays its game. It absolutely does not need a guide. Neither Russian nor American. The economy allows you to arm yourself, not to depend on anyone. Therefore, there is a rational core in the article.
    But this does not mean that Baku has abandoned the role of one of the leading states of the region, along with Turkey and Iran.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 14 February 2013 14: 20
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Baku plays its game. It absolutely does not need a guide. Neither Russian nor American. The economy allows you to arm yourself, not to depend on anyone. Therefore, there is a rational core in the article.
      But this does not mean that Baku has abandoned the role of one of the leading states of the region, along with Turkey and Iran.

      For me, a good koment and I fully support your opinion!
  5. donchepano
    donchepano 14 February 2013 07: 22
    +4
    "Sinitsyn" ... and also the Chief Expert ... of the AMERICAN-Azerbaijan Fund for Assistance to Progress, you cannot believe even a gram.
    Where all the funds come from and on whose account they are kept is well known.
    What are the words of the Americans and their promises everyone knows well
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 14 February 2013 08: 32
      +1
      Quote: donchepano
      "Sinitsyn" ... and also the Chief Expert ... of the AMERICAN-Azerbaijan Fund for Assistance to Progress, you cannot believe even a gram.

      Just read the position of an expert and already tensed.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 14 February 2013 23: 10
      +2
      Quote: donchepano
      Where all the funds come from and on whose account they are kept is well known.
      What are the words of the Americans and their promises everyone knows well


      Everything is clear here, comrade just outlined the current US policy in the Caucasus. making it clear to Putin that from Joe Biden's theory of the fragmentation of the Caucasus in the early 2000s, they switched to the tactics of pragmatic parity, there will be no progress with Karabakh, in return for our refusal from real military-technical and political cooperation with Iran. Even Georgia was "sacrificed" by throwing it like a bone - chew if you can. At the moment, Putin is seriously engaged in Georgia, Saakashvili's fiasco is, whatever one may say, his political victory and this victory must be consolidated, and this requires at least freezing all smoldering conflicts on the southern arc of instability. Much will depend on the interaction between Moscow and Washington and the tactical approaches of Obama and Putin. Globally, the policies of all countries will be the same.
      Well, Azerbaijan will not take part in any military actions against Iran. This does not meet the national interests of Azerbaijan. Otherwise, Azerbaijan may get hit by Iranian missiles. I think that Azerbaijan does not need this. The same applies to the provision of airfields for transport and military aviation, I think Aliyev is not Erdogan who, on the first whistle, is ready to get involved in any adventure without considering the consequences. Aliyev in case of twisting
      hands will be able to seek protection from the opposite side. Therefore, he cannot burn bridges with either Russia or NATO, taking sides on what Saakashvili did, and he understands this very well.













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  6. Kaa
    Kaa 14 February 2013 07: 30
    +3
    If Baku provides airports to someone, then to Israel. Graters between Azerbaijan and Iran are not children, both in the territory, and in the population, and in the markets for hydrocarbons. But whether Israel wants to engage in a gamble with Iran, the United States already definitely does not want to participate in it, does not give strategic bombers, the second AUG is withdrawn from this region ... In Georgia, the situation is incomprehensible, hence Baku has problems with expanding fuel transit, they Now it’s not easy to complicate with Russia, but they have already broken off with Gabbala - Russia refused to pay their price, and nobody needs this radar anymore ... Guys, let's live .... normally and regularly laughing
  7. revenge
    revenge 14 February 2013 07: 41
    +3
    Rebyata amerekosi nam Azerbayjansam naxren ne nujen.
    1. zambo
      zambo 14 February 2013 09: 25
      0
      That is a good answer, Revan.
      Now tell me whether Azerbaijanis need Nagorno-Karabakh, and therefore the war with Armenia and Russia?
      1. kNow
        kNow 14 February 2013 10: 08
        +4
        Quote: zamboy
        Do Azerbaijanis Need Nagorno-Karabakh?

        Need

        Quote: zamboy
        war with Armenia

        not pass

        Quote: zamboy
        war with Russia

        not needed
        1. zambo
          zambo 14 February 2013 11: 21
          -2
          Armenia is an ally of Russia. If you follow the Georgian scenario as in South Ossetia, do you think Russia will stay away?
          Now think: "Who needs this" war "for Nagorno-Karabakh more: Azerbaijan, Armenia, or still the" third "forces?"
          In Russia, they believe that Azerbaijan and Armenia will have enough to measure off (you know what) and calmly sit down at the negotiating table, and not go on about the US.
          1. kNow
            kNow 14 February 2013 11: 53
            +2
            Quote: zamboy
            calmly sit down at the negotiating table

            We’ve been sitting for 20 years, but to no avail.
            Quote: zamboy
            Russia believes that Azerbaijan and Armenia will be enough to measure

            If Russia is unable to help solve the problem, someone else will do it. Hold forever by the eggs of both - will not work
            1. zambo
              zambo 14 February 2013 13: 21
              0
              You have not answered the first part of my answer. And if you have been "negotiating" for 20 years, it means that the sense from your rulers is "zero".
              kNow
              If Russia is unable to help solve the problem, someone else will do it.
              I see that for yourself you have already decided everything in solving this problem, now you expect from it "someone else" signals, commands "FAS!"
              kNow
              Hold forever by the eggs of both - will not work
              There was a time - Russia was holding the eggs half the world and no one was twitching. Believe us now, we can, but someone’s egg is a pity, otherwise everyone is kind of impatient, twitching ... and they strive to stay without these ones (like Saakashvili).
              1. kNow
                kNow 14 February 2013 14: 30
                +1
                Quote: zamboy
                You never answered the first part of my answer.

                Quote: zamboy
                Armenia is an ally of Russia. If you follow the Georgian scenario as in South Ossetia, do you think Russia will stay away?

                I answer. The news has already passed that the United States requested a UN mandate to deploy peacekeepers in Karabakh. Understand how it shines for you?
                Quote: zamboy
                I see that for yourself you have already decided everything in solving this problem

                Our lands are our lands. Return any way.
                Quote: zamboy
                team "FAS!"

                Can you be more polite?
                Quote: zamboy
                There was a time - Russia was holding the eggs half the world and no one was twitching.

                There was a time .... there was ....
                Quote: zamboy
                Believe us now, we can, but someone’s egg is a pity, otherwise everyone is kind of impatient, twitching ... and they strive to stay without these

                Depends on the size of the eggs .... You have a toothless policy, especially regarding large players ...
                1. zambo
                  zambo 14 February 2013 15: 41
                  +2
                  kNow
                  I answer. The news has already passed that the United States requested a UN mandate to deploy peacekeepers in Karabakh. Understand how it shines for you?
                  Still, you did not answer my question.
                  And your news from the section: "Granny whispered ..." Even if peacekeepers are brought in, in the event of your or Armenian provocations, the peacekeepers will be from Russia, so don't flatter yourself about your American and Turkish higher comrades.
                  By the way, explain in more detail how it will shine for us !?

                  kNow
                  Depends on the size of the eggs .... You have a toothless policy, especially regarding large players ...
                  Saakashvili also shouted: "We will return our lands in any way." It's about the size of someone's eggs.
                  I agree about the toothless policy after the collapse of the USSR, but times are changing and your big players are already breaking their teeth, both from old age and from anger. Sorry, but Azerbaijan is not considered a major player ...
                  1. kNow
                    kNow 15 February 2013 08: 45
                    +2
                    Quote: zamboy
                    Still, you did not answer my question.

                    And that was the answer to your question

                    Quote: zamboy
                    And your news from the section: "Grandma whispered ..."

                    I agree, this has not yet been officially confirmed.

                    Quote: zamboy
                    Even if peacekeepers are introduced, in the event of your or Armenian provocations, the peacekeepers will be from Russia, so do not flatter yourself about your American and Turkish superior comrades.

                    That is, the United States requested the UN mandate to introduce Russian peacekeepers in Karabakh? laughing

                    Quote: zamboy
                    By the way, explain in more detail how it will shine for us !?

                    Elementary, Zamba. The eggs will change hands. Georgia is in the sphere of influence of the United States, Armenia is in Russia, Azerbaijan remains relatively neutral. If the United States places its peacekeepers in Karabakh and decides the issue in favor of Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan will be forced to "cancel" its neutrality, and Armenia can ask for a Russian base, since the conflict will be exhausted by the military threat. At the same time, Armenia will be drawn into regional projects .... etc. etc....

                    Quote: zamboy
                    Saakashvili also shouted: "We will return our lands in any way."

                    We have passed this lesson with you. Everyone has learned his own.

                    Quote: zamboy
                    your big players break their teeth, both from old age and from anger

                    Example?
  8. kNow
    kNow 14 February 2013 10: 09
    +1
    The armed forces of another country on its own territory is a lever of influence on the authorities. Do we need this? especially rehearsing a revolution ...
  9. Alikovo
    Alikovo 14 February 2013 10: 15
    0
    there will likely be an Israeli air force base to attack Iran
    1. kNow
      kNow 14 February 2013 10: 23
      +2
      Quote: Alikovo
      there will likely be an air force base

      yes, they and their allies clearly feel a lack of bases in the Middle East ...
      On this route they will fly to bomb Iran. Not funny yourself?
      1. Natalia
        Natalia 14 February 2013 10: 49
        +2
        Quote: kNow
        they and their allies clearly feel a lack of bases in the Middle East

        Yes, it is really not particularly advisable to use the bases in Azerbaijan; you can do without them.

        Quote: kNow
        Isn't it funny?

        But in fact, there is little funny.
        1. kNow
          kNow 14 February 2013 10: 52
          +2
          Natalia,
          And why did you put the American flag in Azerbaijan? if it is a base - specify where it is
          1. Natalia
            Natalia 14 February 2013 11: 10
            +1
            Quote: kNow
            And why did you put the American flag in Azerbaijan?

            And because this is the plan of the most likely directions for attacking Iran, with the possible use of the above territories for this.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 14 February 2013 14: 26
              +3
              Quote: Natalia
              And because this is the plan of the most likely directions for attacking Iran, with the possible use of the above territories for this.

              it's funny)))))
              To bring Iran back to the Stone Age, the United States needs the political will of leaders, not bases around the world !!
              1. kNow
                kNow 14 February 2013 14: 32
                +2
                Quote: Yarbay
                it's funny)))))

                Still would wink A lady holding a Pentagon card
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 15: 04
                  +3
                  Quote: kNow
                  A lady holding a Pentagon card

                  Not really, but you are very close.
              2. Jin
                Jin 14 February 2013 14: 37
                +3
                Quote: Yarbay
                To bring Iran back to the Stone Age, the United States needs the political will of leaders, not bases around the world !!


                Hi Alibek! Yes, the base is certainly very cool! But, as they say: What would a man fight, you need at least eggs!
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 February 2013 14: 55
                  +2
                  Quote: Jin

                  Hi Alibek! Yes, the base is certainly very cool! But, as they say: What would a man fight, you need at least eggs!

                  Good day Eugene!
                  I agree with that!
                  Despite my hatred of US politics, I have to admit that they carefully prepare their military operations and are quite successful!
                  For any Iran is not an adversary for the West!
                  Weight categories are different !!
                  1. Jin
                    Jin 14 February 2013 15: 02
                    +2
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    For any Iran is not an adversary for the West!
                    Weight categories are different !!


                    In the end, of course, not the enemy! There alone Turkey is worth. BUT! The question is how much blood will cost the West! They just wash her, that's what I mean!
                  2. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 15: 03
                    +2
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    , I have to admit that they carefully prepare their military operations and are quite successful!

                    Well, it’s so easy to knead the weak with full advantage in modern weapons systems. Careful preparation for the United States begins with an arms embargo, and then you know yourself. As for Iran, it’s not so simple, Iran is a splinter in the same place as the USA and Israel. with acceptable losses, would have long been smashed.
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    For any Iran is not an adversary for the West!
                    Weight categories are different !!

                    Vietnam was also not a rival, much depends on the will of the people to be free.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 14 February 2013 15: 15
                      +2
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Vietnam was also not a rival, much depends on the will of the people to be free.


                      it’s just that in the case of Iran, completely different goals and tactics will be, which have already been tested!
                      It will be enough to bomb the main military and industrial targets and start an endless war with the opposition and the forces that are separatically inclined, arming them with clothing !!
                      Sanya, before each conflict of any country with the USA, we all rub our hands here and write here finally, these not Iraq, these will give to the brain !!
                      But always the USA achieve their goals!
                      In the days of Vietnam, the USSR was and that’s it!
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 15: 26
                        +4
                        Quote: Yarbay

                        it’s just that in the case of Iran, completely different goals and tactics will be, which have already been tested!

                        In the case of Iran, it won’t work, all American bases in this region are in retaliation. The oil terminals of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrein and Israel itself
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        and start an endless war with the opposition and the separatist forces, arming them with disguise !!

                        Iran is a closed country, unlike Syria, it will be difficult.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Sanya, before each conflict of any country with the USA, we all rub our hands here and write here finally, these not Iraq, these will give to the brain !!

                        I did not say this, I remember the 1991 Desert Storm.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        But always the USA achieve their goals!

                        For example?
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        about the times of Vietnam was the USSR and that says it all!

                        Yes, but today the USA is not the same and their soldiers do not really want to die for democracy
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 15: 51
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        In the case of Iran, it will not work;

                        And what about Iraq were far the same base ???
                        We again step on the same rake underestimate the enemy and overestimate his opponent!
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Iran is a closed country, unlike Syria, it will be difficult.

                        I was in Iran and Syria, but in 90 years, almost the same thing !!
                        Except for the strict rules for citizens of their country!
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        For example?

                        In my opinion, in all conflicts they have achieved their goal!
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Yes, but today the USA is not the same and their soldiers do not really want to die for democracy

                        I disagree with this at all, and who is dying ??
                        Are Ethiopians instead of amers?
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 16: 01
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        And what about Iraq were far the same base ???

                        Even Iraq was not successful, but responded with SCADs. In Iran, a larger and more powerful army compared to Iraq. Their developments are being put into operation intensively, plus they have bought quite a few funds. And the number of mobile launchers, very significant and physically impossible to destroy.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I was in Iran and Syria, but in 90 years, almost the same thing!

                        Over the past 10 years, Iran has only been engaged in what is arming itself.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        In my opinion, in all conflicts they have achieved their goal!

                        Only in the short term, and then the situation gets out of their control. Put in the backside of the US flag in Benghaz, the Marine speaks for itself.Yarbay,
                        And in Libya, who was swimming, and now in Syria?
              3. Natalia
                Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 58
                +1
                Quote: Yarbay
                The political will of leaders is needed to return Iran to the stone age of the United States

                ............ easier said than done, dear ............
        2. Natalia
          Natalia 14 February 2013 10: 54
          +1
          And then who told you that the United States will abandon plans to spoil relations between Azerbaijan and Russia. You can still print a couple of billion dollars, but at the same time create another tension in the Caucasus.
          1. kNow
            kNow 14 February 2013 10: 56
            +2
            Quote: Natalia
            And then who told you that the USA will abandon plans to spoil relations between Azerbaijan and Russia

            I didn’t say such a thing belay smile
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 14 February 2013 11: 21
              +1
              Quote: kNow
              I didn’t say such a thing

              And I don’t say that you said that. I mean, champagne is too early to open. Ways to spoil relations between Russia and Azerbaijan (yes, you yourself know them):
              1. Under the pretext of invading Iran, deploy a military air base. (unlikely)
              2. Under the pretext of defending the rights of Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. For Armenia is in the CSTO (Russia will help Armenia in this case). Azerbaijan will naturally ask for support; come up with yourself .....
          2. Yeraz
            Yeraz 14 February 2013 11: 18
            0
            Quote: Natalia
            And then who told you that the United States will abandon plans to spoil relations between Azerbaijan and Russia. You can still print a couple of billion dollars, but at the same time create another tension in the Caucasus.

            The attitude has long been spoiled by the support of Russia to Armenia in this conflict. We are simply smarter than Georgians, we understand that Armenia holds on thanks to Russia and the conflict is not resolved due to Russia's support for Armenia, but going head on head against Russia, as Georgia has done, will also not do anything good. We smile at each other, but we all remember. We are only waiting.
            1. Russia will get stuck in some other conflict in the North Caucasus or something else.
            2. Russia will weaken.
            3. The most profitable is the leadership of the Russian Federation will understand that it is better for Azerbaijan to support and get a real ally, rather than a subsidized Armenian republic, which without restriction of the policy of the Russian Federation is called zero outpost.
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 14 February 2013 11: 31
              +2
              Quote: Yeraz
              1. Russia will get stuck in some other conflict in the North Caucasus or something else.
              2. Russia will weaken.

              Dreaming is not harmful ....... many achieve this. But they will not succeed.
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 14 February 2013 12: 13
                0
                Quote: Natalia
                Dreaming is not harmful ....... many achieve this. But they will not succeed.

                Personally, I really dream of such an option.

                3. The most profitable is the leadership of the Russian Federation will understand that it is better for Azerbaijan to support and get a real ally, rather than a subsidized Armenian republic, which without restriction of the policy of the Russian Federation is called zero outpost.

                never promise in the world, anything can happen, any state, and nations come and go.
                1. Natalia
                  Natalia 14 February 2013 12: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  never promise in the world, anything can happen, any state, and nations come and go.

                  And in the history of Russia there has always always been some kind of danger, and more than once or twice something happened in the world ...... but today there is such a state as the Russian Federation, which has already risen from its knees. So I BELIEVE that the intrigues of enemies (both external and internal) will not succeed ..... and I also BELIEVE that since we were not broken in the 90s, now it is much more complicated. Now everything is starting to revive (not everything is not right away, but a start has been made), and the emergence of such organizations as the CSTO is vivid confirmation of this.

                  And the main thing is that the PEOPLE themselves believed in it, and we have it big and multinational. And we believe that we will overcome any difficulties. (it has always been so .....)
                2. fzr1000
                  fzr1000 14 February 2013 13: 26
                  +3
                  Chechens have a saying that Russians always come back. So that....
                  1. Jin
                    Jin 14 February 2013 14: 58
                    +3
                    Quote: fzr1000
                    Chechens have a saying that Russians always come back


                    I agree, colleague! If you read the sayings of the Germans about the Russians, after the Second World War, there is generally a complete "Hitler kaput!" Goebbels and the rest of the elite considered us subhumans, but ordinary soldiers, there were much like diametrically opposite opinions ...
        3. Yeraz
          Yeraz 14 February 2013 11: 19
          0
          Quote: Natalia
          Yes, it is really not particularly advisable to use the bases in Azerbaijan; you can do without them.

          It is advisable if the Air Force base is deployed, and not a gas station.
          1. Natalia
            Natalia 14 February 2013 11: 45
            +1
            Quote: Yeraz
            It is advisable if the Air Force base is deployed, and not a gas station.

            Naturally a gas station, the United States does not need a strong Azerbaijan. They will drive F-16, F-18, F-22, etc. etc. and as you rightly noted, they will need to be refueled.

            And you thought they would rebuild a new military airbase there and even five dozen fighter jets as a gift ..... as I said, dreaming is not harmful lol
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 14 February 2013 12: 12
              +1
              Quote: Natalia
              And you thought they would rebuild a new military airbase there and even five dozen fighter jets as a gift ..... as I said, dreaming is not harmful

              No, I didn’t think, I’m a realist. I’m talking about the fact that it would be reasonable for Israel to have fighters constantly with us, and not fly from there to refuel in Iran and then fly to Isaril and back.
              about airfields with NATO standards, they are in Azerbaijan. Amer themselves upgraded them at their own expense.
              1. Natalia
                Natalia 14 February 2013 13: 00
                +4
                Quote: Yeraz
                . Russian leadership will understand that it is better for Azerbaijan to support and get a real ally

                the above does not fit here with this your thesis
                Quote: Yeraz
                We are waiting only.
                1. Russia will get stuck in some other conflict in the North Caucasus or something else.
                2. Russia will weaken.

                Quote: Yeraz
                Personally, I really dream of such an option.

                this is the answer to the question why Russia does not support you.
                Good ally who sits and waits to stick a knife in the back .....
                So personally, you can sit and dream ..... after all, it seems like this is not harmful.)))
                In general, of course, I did not expect that you (Azerbaijanis) are so angry ....
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 13: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: Natalia
                  In general, of course, I did not expect that you (Azerbaijanis) are so angry.

                  Natasha Hello! You are not talking with an Azerbaijani, but with Turk !!! This is an old Saita patron, lives in Russia but he is a Turk. Tell him that we will return Constantinople to the Greeks, then he will be really evil lol
                  1. Natalia
                    Natalia 14 February 2013 13: 38
                    +2
                    Hi Sash. Well then, it’s still clearer winked That's where hatred for Armenians comes from, that's where hatred for Russia comes from (Russian-Turkish war, Admiral Ushakov and all that) .... lol And I thought)))
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 13: 43
                      +2
                      Quote: Natalia
                      (Russian-Turkish war, Admiral Ushakov and all that)

                      The past defeats do not give rest, everyone dreams of the revival of the Ottoman Empire laughing The more I read his posts, the more confidence that Turkish beaches will eventually become Russian health resorts within Russia, of course wassat Erdogan isult-hello winked
                      1. Natalia
                        Natalia 14 February 2013 13: 54
                        +2
                        lol laughing in just wanted to say ...... the collapse of the Ottoman Empire hit the pride of an ordinary citizen of Turkey winked all everything I'm calm I won’t laugh anymore winked ..................... smile .................... lol laughing laughing ))))
                    2. ayyildiz
                      ayyildiz 14 February 2013 14: 21
                      +2
                      Baltaji Mehmed Pasha
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 14 February 2013 13: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Natasha Hello! You are not talking with an Azerbaijani, but with Turk !!!

                    Sanya, with all due respect to you and Natalia, but I am also a Turk!
                    As for military airfields, the comrade is right, since 2005, the existing airfields have been brought to NATO standards!
                    Natalia’s forecasts for me are utopian!
                    As for the thoughts of Eraz on the same points, if Russia is hostile to us, then there is a sense, if at least neutral then there is no sense either!
                    1. Natalia
                      Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      with all due respect to you and Natalia, but I am also a Turk!

                      But the Turks are different from each other, your compatriot is sleeping and sees when Russia weakens or drowns in some kind of military conflict in the Caucasus ..... And what do you think about Russia, I don’t know. With all due respect to you, I haven’t heard anything bad about you, and I don’t want to say anything bad ....... for now ..... I suppose winked
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 03
                        +3
                        Quote: Natalia
                        , and I don’t want to say bad ....... for now ..... I suppose

                        Natasha, do not offend Alibek, he is good laughing

                        Alibek, but how else to say bully
                      2. Natalia
                        Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 09
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Natasha, do not offend Alibek, he is good

                        Sasha, and there was no thought ... I’m for peace in the world, I’m kind, I’m good ..... and I never offend anyone winked honestly honestly ......... if I have no reason to not give ......
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 16
                        +3
                        Quote: Natalia
                        I'm kind, I'm good ..... and I never offend anyone

                        Reading this, I remember with yesterday trembling in my soul and fear in the heels your koment.Natalia Yesterday, 10:13
                        Well, I personally SVD ..... mmmmdaa and cartridges of cartridges of cartridges)))
                        And she’s so kind, kind, she’s not sorry for anyone laughing
                      4. Natalia
                        Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        And she’s so kind, kind, she’s not sorry for anyone

                        tongue
                      5. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 14: 14
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Natasha, do not offend Alibek, he is good

                        Very good)))
                      6. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 15 February 2013 03: 03
                        +4
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Very good)))

                        Alibek hi It’s on the principle that you won’t praise yourself and you’ll be like ... do you go unannounced? laughing drinks
                      7. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 14: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: Natalia
                        But the Turks are different from each other, your compatriot is sleeping and sees when Russia weakens or drowns in some kind of military conflict in the Caucasus ...

                        In my opinion, I answered this judgment of a friend!
                        If Russia is hostile to us, then he has the right desire!
                        Put yourself in my place!
                      8. Natalia
                        Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 23
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        If Russia is hostile to us, then he has the right desire!

                        Who is this for you? Turkey? Turkey in NATO there EuroPro will appear soon ............ start better with yourself. Now let's see from the Russian bell tower.

                        Comrades, tell me, is Turkey hostile to us? ............... interesting question
                      9. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 14: 33
                        +2
                        Quote: Natalia
                        Who is this for you? Turkey?


                        You were embarrassed by the flag on my avatar!
                        I am a citizen of Azerbaijan, but this flag is also dear to me !!
                        At one time, Nuri Pasha, with his body under this flag, saved thousands of my compatriots from massacre!
                        But what is Turkey hostile to Russia?
                      10. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 36
                        +3
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        But what is Turkey hostile to Russia?

                        Syria Alibek, SYRIA !!! What is happening there and what does Turkey do you know.
                      11. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 15: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Syria Alibek, SYRIA !!! What is happening there and what does Turkey do you know.

                        I don’t agree with what Turkey is doing in Syria, but I don’t think that it’s enemies with Russia, though ..........
                      12. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 14: 43
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        You were embarrassed by the flag on my avatar!


                        ABOUT! And I didn’t notice at first, my friend, there was an Azerbaijani like ...
                      13. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 15: 01
                        +2
                        Quote: Jin
                        ABOUT! And I didn’t notice at first, my friend, there was an Azerbaijani like ...

                        I wrote to you in my face, I write with the help of transliteration, it is very painfully long to write))
                      14. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 15: 12
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I wrote to you in my face, I write with the help of transliteration, it is very painfully long to write))


                        Yes Yes! I read! got it! drinks
                      15. Natalia
                        Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        But what is Turkey hostile to Russia?

                        the work in Turkey of the NATO missile defense system facility ....... oh sorry I forgot, you think that this is not directed against Russia .....
                      16. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 14: 34
                        +1
                        More rivals than enemies
                      17. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 28
                        +3
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        If Russia is hostile to us

                        belay This is to whom, if to Turkey, then to the bathhouse Turkey, and if we are talking about Azerbaijan, then it’s not like enemies request
                      18. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 14: 37
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        This is to whom, if to Turkey, then to the bathhouse Turkey, and if we are talking about Azerbaijan, then it’s not like enemies

                        like, I agree that kind of, but when I look at our relationship, I personally have a lot of questions !!
                        At least Russia is a friend of my main enemy !!
                        Armenia in the CSTO, imagine that this is the same if Azerbaijan would be in NATO!
                      19. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        At least Russia is a friend of my main enemy !!

                        Oh, to the point, while Azerbaijan is a friend of our enemy and an accomplice of terrorists.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Armenia in the CSTO

                        Well Armenia is there
                        There are a lot of questions, but hostility does not even come to the fore, which is the most important
                      20. Natalia
                        Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 46
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Imagine that this is the same if Azerbaijan were in NATO!

                        ...... well, in fairness, I must say that Aliyev does not put such plans ..... smart wink Respect and respect ....
                    2. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 01
                      +3
                      Quote: Yarbay

                      Sanya, with all due respect to you and Natalia, but I am also a Turk!

                      hi alibek! You were born in Azerbaijan and live in Baku. But he is a real Turk, maybe not for you, but for me the difference is huge.
                      1. Natalia
                        Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 13
                        +1
                        Only one thing confuses me ...........
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Natalia’s forecasts for me are utopian!

                        What is he talking about? ....................................
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 25
                        +2
                        Quote: Natalia
                        What is he talking about? .....

                        Alibek, what are you talking about?
                        The lady asks, it is necessary to answer
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 14: 17
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        hi alibek! You were born in Azerbaijan and live in Baku. But he is a real Turk, maybe not for you, but for me the difference is huge.

                        Honestly, I often disagree with him in the strained relationship with him, but he writes his vision and in my opinion is honest with himself and with us!
                        That is, for the sake of something it does not change the judgment!
                        I respect it!
                      4. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 32
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Honestly, I often disagree with him in the strained relationship with him,

                        I constantly disagree with him.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        and in my opinion he is honest with himself and with us!

                        Georgia is not a friend to us, but on the site Geoking, he is Georgian, writes what he thinks, but does not offend the feelings of others. But the hieraz often goes beyond this framework, maybe he doesn’t want it, but it hurts hi
                  3. ayyildiz
                    ayyildiz 14 February 2013 14: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Tell him that we will return Constantinople to the Greeks, then he will be really evil


                    I am an Istanbuler, come wait, only as tourists!
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 38
                      +4
                      Quote: ayyildiz

                      Istanbul i

                      Well, it didn’t last long, you’ll soon be proud to say, I’m Constantinople laughing
                      1. Natalia
                        Natalia 14 February 2013 14: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        -I am Constantinople
                        good
                        lol lol ......... winked ....... lol laughing laughing
                      2. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 14: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, it didn’t last long, you’ll soon be proud to say
                        ISTANBULIAN as 600 years already hi
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 14: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        ISTANBULIAN as 600 years already

                        They could have spoken for another 600 years, but Erdogan is pushing Turkey hard into the abyss. Therefore KONSTANTINOPOLEZ is a more likely option in the near future with the next 600 years !!!
                        Yes, and Greek learn wink
                      4. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 15: 03
                        +2
                        Rather, the Greeks will teach the Turks, there are also quite a few Turks
                      5. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 15: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        Rather, the Greeks will learn Turkish

                        Well, I'm watching Russian. Have you already learned laughing just in case wink
                      6. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 18: 55
                        +3
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, I'm watching Russian. Have you already learned


                        Thanks to you, I am learning to write without errors!
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        just in case


                        I know several languages hi

                        I personally am pleased when not a Turk knows Turkish, but apparently you don’t have a foreigner speak your language
                    2. Jin
                      Jin 14 February 2013 14: 51
                      +3
                      Quote: ayyildiz
                      I am an Istanbuler, come wait, only as tourists!


                      We as tourists come to you! Do not go to Syria, and we will go tourists drinks
                      1. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 14: 58
                        +2
                        Sorry, 3 mil. Turkmens live in Syria, we cannot but intervene, we are only against Assad but not like the Syrian people drinks
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 15: 07
                        +3
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        , we are only against Assad but not like the Syrian people

                        that is why in Turkey they are arming thugs who then blow up and shoot civilians. Come on without hypocrisy, yes! Deserved minus !!!
                      3. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 19: 00
                        +2
                        Thanks to the Assad family, 30 friends have died and you offer me to respect him after that? I think it would be a betrayal of my dead friends
                      4. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 19: 23
                        +2
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        Thanks to the Assad family, 30 friends have died and you offer me to respect him after that? I think it would be a betrayal of my dead friends


                        I grieve with you, I seriously sad ... this is a war and people are dying in it. The Almighty sees (I do not want to offend anyone's religion, God is one), but Assad is not rocking all this for 2 years! This is done by people who are completely distant from both your friends and your experiences! Do not blame the one who is being used as a target for all that rabble who is fighting against a ligitive government! Don't you get it? Do you want to say "Arab Spring" is the will of the Arabs? Maybe, but look at what this muck has turned under the "Masulman brothers" in a country known to us !!! This is what the Arabs wanted ??? I think no! So many people in Syria do not want the same, therefore they are at war, they also, by the way, are dying friends and relatives!
                      5. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 19: 40
                        +2
                        Yes, it is clear that the project has long been on the part of amers!

                        My opinion, after it’s over there, should be purged from fundamentally pseudo Muslims in inhumane form of people.
                      6. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 15: 14
                        +4
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        Sorry, 3 mil. Turkmens live in Syria, we cannot help but intervene


                        Well, then excuse me too! I, too, have nothing against the Turks ... but here it is necessary to somehow resolve the issue ....
                      7. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 19: 10
                        +2
                        Quote: Jin
                        Well, then excuse me too! I also have nothing against the Turks ... but here it’s necessary to somehow resolve the issue

                        I, too, have nothing against the Russians, and the state interests coincide somewhere and somewhere not. It seems that our relations with Russia are not bad and should be better if the AEC that Russia will build confirms it,

                        By the way, almost without a tender I got the right to build
                      8. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 19: 41
                        +3
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        I, too, have nothing against the Russians, and the state interests coincide somewhere and somewhere not. It seems that our relations with Russia are not bad and should be better if the AEC that Russia will build confirms it,

                        By the way, almost without a tender I got the right to build


                        You see ... we are arguing with you, and our political super-leaders are sawing the world in their own way sad So you brainwash your Erdogan so that the havalnik covers up, otherwise it will be bad for everyone ... I haven’t painted pictures for a long time, where the victorious Russian tanks and planes bravely walk through the occupied territories, and the enemy’s equipment burns and smokes! War is dirt, blood, th * but, devastation ... on both sides and for frequent victory can feast (Tsar Pir, I mean) will be (((
                      9. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 19: 49
                        +1
                        there is a saying: in the war there are no winners, but in the world of losers drinks
                      10. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 21: 03
                        +2
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        there is a saying: in the war there are no winners, but in the world of losers


                        Good proverb! I will remember! Here is an extra confirmation of my words that the old people start the war, and the young die! We have found a common language drinks , and if we were under oath, for the sake of these freaks would gnaw their throats to each other ...
                        Although as a reserve I am under oath ... tin
                      11. kNow
                        kNow 14 February 2013 14: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: Jin


                        We as tourists come to you! Do not go to Syria, and we will go tourists

                        Jin, purely human, everyone would be happy. But we cannot see peace until the interests of oil-producing and oil-consuming countries coincide
                      12. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 15: 07
                        +3
                        Quote: kNow
                        purely human, everyone would be happy. But we cannot see peace until the interests of oil-producing and oil-consuming countries coincide


                        And so it is, but it is unlikely that in the foreseeable future, unfortunately, this is expected ... unless, when the oil reserves are completely exhausted ... what
                      13. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 15: 09
                        +3
                        Quote: Jin
                        .. unless, when the oil reserves run out completely ...

                        Then World War 3 immediately begins for Antarctica, there is oil there belay
                      14. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 15: 15
                        +3
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Then immediately begins World War 3 for Antarctica, where oil eats


                        Yes! There will be real bickering! warms the soul that we are preparing for this alignment)))
                      15. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 15: 07
                        +3
                        Quote: Jin
                        We as tourists come to you! Do not go to Syria, and we will go tourists

                        I will tell you honestly, nowhere else have I seen such an attitude of people towards the army and love for the motherland as in Turkey and least of all I would like Russia to be at war with Turkey!
                        Because people here and here are not indifferent to me!
                      16. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 14 February 2013 15: 12
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I have not seen such an attitude of people towards the army and love for the motherland as in Turkey

                        Alibek, go to China, you will be very surprised.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        least of all I would like Russia to be at war with Turkey!

                        Well, it depends on Turkey! Erdogan is arming scumbags who will sooner or later kill some of the Russians living in Syria. He understands this, but he does not care, because there will be no peace.
                      17. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 15: 42
                        +3
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Alibek, go to China, you will be very surprised.

                        alas, it’s unlikely to succeed soon !!
                        You see, I wrote about this more than once, many perceive it as a lie, but I swear that I say what I feel!
                        I admire their patriotism !!
                        Close to this I saw in the USSR, when people gave way to a soldier a place in transport, fed any soldier, but in Turkey it is bigger!
                        Here there are shots where the general meets the fighters after the military operation!
                        look at 4:10 The soldier swears that at least one Turk, the Motherland, and its attributes will live!
                        He says that every drop of blood is for the Motherland !!
                        4:46 a detachment is greeted by a general who tells the soldiers after the report and the oath of the mountain kammando that he is proud of his soldiers !!
                        And this happens after each operation, the soldiers are met by the highest ranks!
                        from 7:42 meet another squad!
                        I swear it was an honor to be with these guys, and in spite of my problems, the honor mail will be with them in the future!
                      18. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 15: 22
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Because people here and here are not indifferent to me!


                        What I would least want is wars! "Better to have fun than to work, better to drink vodka than to fight!" But you can't cut the back of Russia! It's just that serious interests, very serious players collide here, and it’s impossible to give in to anyone ... The saddest thing is that it’s not the Turks, and not even Edorgan, but the Amersians! Wherever you go shorter ...
                      19. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 15: 53
                        +4
                        Quote: Jin
                        Edorgan

                        I am not happy with Erdogan, moreover, I consider his policy to be untenable!
                      20. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 16: 07
                        +4
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I am not happy with Erdogan, moreover, I consider his policy to be untenable!


                        Yes, that same character (((So in Turkey, to common people, the war with Syria is not needed in FIG! The Turks are far from enthusiastic about such a policy!
                      21. Kasym
                        Kasym 14 February 2013 20: 32
                        +3
                        Alibek (Brother), Eugene I welcome YOU! I read your discussion with great interest! And suddenly an idea came to me - whatever our ruler politicians did, we would still understand another friend; since for the rest of our lives we will remain compatriots born in one GREAT COUNTRY! And that y won’t take us away!
                        With great respect, Dauren!
                      22. Jin
                        Jin 14 February 2013 21: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Kasym
                        Alibek (Brother), Eugene I welcome YOU!


                        fellow Dauren, good to see and hear! Glad your positivity and mood, I am with you guys in such beliefs! Our grandfathers, this world was defended shoulder to shoulder, and some here want to break it! Tired !!! drinks
                      23. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 15 February 2013 10: 17
                        +1
                        Quote: Kasym

                        Alibek (Brother), Eugene I welcome YOU! I read your discussion with great interest! And suddenly an idea came to me - whatever our ruler politicians did, we would still understand another friend; since for the rest of our lives we will remain compatriots born in one GREAT COUNTRY! And that y won’t take us away!

                        Priceless Dauren !!
                        You are right; we had a Great Past and there will be a Great Future !!
                        Good to see you brother !!
                      24. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 19: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I am not happy with Erdogan, moreover, I consider his policy to be untenable!

                        Somewhere I don’t like it either, but he raised the Turkish economy to another level! , And set a record in Turkish politics with 10 for years in power, and according to analytical studies, 55% of the population of Turkey are still ready to vote for his party
                      25. itkul
                        itkul 14 February 2013 18: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        love for the motherland as in Turkey


                        You have never been to Europe. In the same Belgium, cities have entire Turkish quarters, or Turks, like our Russian intelligentsia, are used to loving their homeland in a foreign land.
                      26. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 14 February 2013 19: 29
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                        Quote: itkul
                        used to love the motherland in a foreign land


                        In a foreign land, a person understands more what a homeland is! This is normal drinks
                      27. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 14 February 2013 19: 35
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                        Quote: itkul
                        You have never been to Europe. In the same Belgium, cities have entire Turkish quarters, or Turks, like our Russian intelligentsia, are used to loving their homeland in a foreign land

                        Why haven’t been !?
                        I even studied there one time!
                        You just confuse concepts!
                        People leave to improve their lives, but this does not mean that they do not love their homeland!
                        in addition, the population of Turkey is more than 70 million, of course, some percentage leaves for other countries, but you will not see a Turk who would not have the flag of his country at home or in his institution!
                      28. itkul
                        itkul 14 February 2013 20: 16
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                        Quote: Yarbay
                        but you don’t see a Turk whose home or institution would not have the flag of his country!


                        At the expense of the flag, yes, I’ll say more, they even put crescent stickers on their cars there. But what unpleasantly surprised that in the afternoon, during working hours, they sit in a crowd near their shops or eateries, it seems that they are in Europe they do not go to work, but live on benefits, and it is unlikely that they will exchange the well-fed and rich Europe for their homeland
      2. fzr1000
        fzr1000 14 February 2013 13: 20
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        Rather, the Israelis will first work on Iran and only then will land in Azerbaijan. Unless, of course, they need it.
        1. Natalia
          Natalia 14 February 2013 13: 41
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          Quote: fzr1000
          the Israelis will first work on Iran and only then will land in Azerbaijan.

          Not a fact, but what about a tactical arrangement, a blow from different directions ...... this is very important.
        2. Jin
          Jin 14 February 2013 14: 26
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          Quote: fzr1000
          Rather, the Israelis will first work on Iran and only then will land in Azerbaijan. Unless, of course, they need it.


          Well, given that this is still Iran, and not the Taliban with Kalash, which the Amerzians thrashed from unattainable heights at one time, then not very many will be destined to "work out and land", at least at the first stage ... Personally, in my opinion, an attack on Iran would be a sooooo big mistake. The Amer understands this and that is why they don’t really rock the boat, not like it was with Afghanistan and Iraq. And Russia is no longer the same! Moreover, Iran is under our very ass and our interest in this issue is much wider than in the above countries ... And then what ??? India??? Well, and this is not at all funny ... In short, they looked at Syria, cooled down a bit, climb into Iran - Vietnam will seem like childish babble, with all the consequences there will be no less coffins ... Does Obama need it?

          PySy You talked about Israel, I understand, well, but I, in general ...
    2. albert
      albert 14 February 2013 20: 48
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      Or on us. Is it possible to trust the Anglo-Saxons.
  10. Edward85
    Edward85 14 February 2013 14: 22
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    I think President Aliyev. It will never go to the deployment of US bases on its territory. The deployment of bases will mean a sharp deterioration in relations with Moscow. And given the number of Azerbaijanis living in Russia, this step on the part of the Azerbaijani leadership can have sad consequences for them. Although during the war in Chechnya, the leadership of Azerbaijan supported the Chechen separatists in all, so that everything is possible.