The plane flying from Helsinki was unable to land in Tartu due to GPS interference

Technical problems caused the return of a plane of the Finnish airline Finnair flying from Finland to Estonia. Estonian media reported this.

As it became known, the plane was flying from the airport of the Finnish capital Helsinki and was supposed to land at the airport of the Estonian city of Tartu on Friday night. However, he was forced to turn back because he could not sit down. The reason for the return of the plane has already been clarified - interference with the operation of the GPS system.

The Estonian press clarifies that Tartu airport is one of the few that requires a GPS signal when landing aircraft. It is for this reason that the landing of the Finnish company’s plane at the Estonian airport was unsuccessful. Without this requirement, the plane would have landed calmly at any other airport.

Other flights from Finland to Estonia have had no problems landing at Tartu Airport. Let us recall that between the two countries, given their close political and economic ties, intensive aviation message.

Interestingly, back in March 2024, the Finnish Transport and Communications Agency reported an increase in the number of complaints about violations of the GPS navigation system in the country. If in 2022 1500 notifications were submitted about problems with the operation of this system, then in 2023 7500 notifications were already submitted. There is no word on what is causing the navigation system to malfunction, specifically in Finland.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

then in 2023, 7500 notifications were already submitted.

Whose system is this, the USA? Demand that they ensure its uninterrupted operation, you have the right to do so!

[Uncle lee]

There is no word on what is causing the navigation system to malfunction, specifically in Finland.

We won't tell!

[Machito]

What do you think? Well, the plane didn't land. Then he sits down. Some day. If you're lucky.
And this ZhePES is a threshing floor. Let them switch to GLONASS. He has no glitches.

[78bor1973]

You can travel from Helsinki to Tallinn by boat instead of driving a huge liner through a puddle!

[Machito]

The Chukhonians have no use for technology. I agree with you. They remained as wild and stupid as they were. And slow.

[NIKN]

Quote from Uncle Lee

We won't tell!

Well, why don't we tell? Starlink occupied the entire airwaves with signals, the control of MQ-9 Reaper drones with American powerful satellite signals littered everything, the pilots were trained to control the aircraft using the keyboard (it’s not at all clear here "Other flights from Finland to Estonia have had no problems landing at Tartu Airport.") And in general, for Estonian pilots the GPS works very quickly, they don’t have time to react, they need to screw the brakes to the GPS

[Neo-9947]

What is not clear here? The plane's GPS receiver is broken.
Or this version doesn’t work, because then where is Russia with its jammers...

[Electrical]

And in general, for Estonian pilots the GPS works very quickly, they don’t have time to react, they need to screw the brakes to the GPS

Especially for Estonians, this is the only flight that goes there. Well, just in case. So that they don't get confused. And Finnish pilots without a driver’s license constantly miss the whole of Estonia and don’t have time to slow down.

[Piramidon]

Maps, compasses, plotting a course with a pencil... no, we haven’t heard of it. And what is it?

[Arkady007]

This is the problem of the entire modern generation of pilots and ours too. If the military fly by telephone, then what should you ask the civilians?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Arkady007

This is the problem of the entire modern generation of pilots and ours too.

If on military aircraft there is a navigator in the crews, then on civilian navigators they were removed from the crew. I don’t know how it is with NATO, but our navigators are taught how to use maps and compasses.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Piramidon

Maps, compasses, plotting a course with a pencil...

I breathed that before, experienced pilots flew across the Belomor pack!

[Piramidon]

Quote from Uncle Lee

I breathed that before, experienced pilots flew across the Belomor pack!

This is from the same series of tales as the paragraph in the helicopter pilots’ training manual - “Restoring orientation by interviewing local residents”

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Piramidon

"Restoring orientation by interviewing local residents"

When there was no GPS and were determined only by radio beacons and radars, there were such incidents
And about Belomor - it’s about the skill of the pilots.

[not main]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote from Uncle Lee

I breathed that before, experienced pilots flew across the Belomor pack!

This is from the same series of tales as the paragraph in the helicopter pilots’ training manual - “Restoring orientation by interviewing local residents”

A little different. When encountering dangerous weather phenomena along the route, the crew was allowed to land at the selected site. And wait out dangerous weather events. This is in the NPP. But they actually interviewed us in real life, the cases are not frequent and it’s a shame for the crew!

[tralflot1832]

So the NATO exercises are going on, the Scandinavians jammed the wrong frequency. They probably wanted to jam Kaliningrad.

[topol717]

This is the first time I’ve heard of the Airport making demands for GPS. The plane lands not using GPS, but using 2 beacons, 1st horizontal, 2nd vertical. there are no GPS systems there. Or a plane without GPS could not get into the descent zone?

[Electrical]

Or a plane without GPS could not get into the descent zone?

How will you get there if the only systems the landing and takeoff controller has are binoculars and some kind of baofeng.

[Berkut752]

One day I was lucky, thanks to the technical staff. Leaving the airfield
at 4:30 the fog cleared. And at 5:00, returning, I found myself in a continuous fog, with visibility of 10 - 15 meters on the ground, it was necessary to land. I was lucky with the technician, he was DESPERATE LIKE ME. When I flew away, after 15 minutes the fog began to roll in. Hearing the rumble of the plane, he grabbed a bucket of gasoline and rushed in his car to the end of the runway, where he spilled it and set it on fire. And then the hands landed the plane themselves.
He was seconded from Vinnitsa......

[Joker62]

There is no word on what is causing the navigation system to malfunction, specifically in Finland.

Come on, how can you throw stones at your own garden????
I’d rather remove the speck in my neighbor’s eye, although I myself have a huge log sticking out in my eye, and it’s okay, everything’s fine...

[KCA]

Did the airfield guidance and landing systems also fail? The transmitters there are orders of magnitude more powerful than GPS transmitters, in addition to airfield systems, there are beacons along the routes; by and large, GPS is not needed for civilian ships, just one of the positioning systems, or stuffing, or another provocation against Russia

[Old_geologist]

Yes, impose from a high bell tower on all their claims! There was no point in joining Nata. We lived in peace.

[Electrical]

Did the airfield guidance and landing systems also fail?

Are they even there? This is a rural airfield. Apart from this flight, nothing else flies there on an analogue of the An-24. There's hardly even a dispatcher there.

[KCA]

There are most likely no airfield systems then, but there are lighthouses, Finland is not Yakutia, there are 3-4 lighthouses for the whole country and there are enough neighbors, after all, you can fly along the Belomor pack

[Electrical]

after all, you can fly along the Belomor pack

These are Baltic fleas. They cannot be seen on a pack of Belomor even with a microscope.

[SEVERIN]

The plane flying from Helsinki was unable to land in Tartu due to GPS interference

- Was it Russia’s malicious fault or was the GPS sensor blessed by a bird? Such details need to be covered.

[faiver]

and what, there wasn’t even a bad astrolabe on board?

[Nexcom]

Nowadays, pilots are not equipped with sectarians and astrolabes. They are given tablets from Apple.

[Ivan№One]

their Helsinki to Tartu by plane?
15 minutes of summer?

[faiver]

there's a very slow plane there