American experts: First we transfer Abrams tanks to Ukraine, then we are surprised that the Russians destroy them

American broadcasts are discussing the emergence of information that the Pentagon “recommended” the withdrawal Tanks "Abrams" from the battlefield during the Ukrainian conflict. "Military Review" in one of its recent materials reported that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine followed the "recommendations" from overseas and took the remaining combat-ready Abrams away from the front line so that they would not become targets for Russian drones.

In the States, experts were generally critical of this development of events. The main complaint is why tanks should be transferred to Ukraine at all if, after several knocked out tanks, a decision is made to withdraw them outside the combat zone.

Adding to the questions in this context is such a nuance as the approval of a new package of military assistance to Ukraine.

A few comments on this matter from American experts and ordinary users:

First we transmit weapon, tanks, then suddenly we are surprised that the Russians are destroying them on the battlefield. Does this mean that the Pentagon and Kyiv seriously believed that Abrams was invulnerable?

Why are we transferring weapons to Ukraine? So that it can be safely stored in warehouses?

I don't think the decision to withdraw Abrams tanks from the front line is correct. This decision only emphasizes that Ukraine does not have a clear strategy for their use.

Then let the entire army be withdrawn to the rear so that it does not become a target for the Russians at the front. Strange decision.

Let us recall that the Americans handed over to the Kyiv regime more than 30 Abrams and several mine clearance vehicles based on these tanks. To date, Russian troops have destroyed at least 6 Abrams, most of them west of Avdeevka, where these tanks were previously abandoned by Commander-in-Chief Syrsky to try to regain control of the city.

Comments

[Nexcom]

The Amers are simply not comfortable with the fact that their Abrams are hit and burned without much effort.....
All their “hippiness” flies off like dust from a carpet.

Western commentators should not be surprised that their Abrams turned out to be not wunderwaffles at all. There are no tanks with absolute protection. Moreover, if you consider that the old modifications were transferred to the kakelas.

[Orange bigg]

Have you decided to save your equipment until better times?
The British magazine The Economist published a rough plan for Ukraine to win the conflict with Russia. One of the Western officials assured the publication that the Russian defense complex will exhaust itself in 2025. At the same time, the military assistance issued by the United States will give Kyiv time to prepare a better offensive.The source notes that there is a clearly visible imbalance of power at the front. The Russian army clearly has an advantage in technology. The Ukrainian army is forced to repel attacks with infantry, grenades and small arms. The losses of the Ukrainian army are colossal. Moreover, even the injection of military aid to Kyiv did not solve the problem of this imbalance.
If Putin could show that the Russian war machine is unstoppable and Ukraine has lost, he could hope to cut a sweet deal with Donald Trump if he were to return to America's presidency in January, and thus force Ukraine to capitulate on humiliating terms, writes The Economist.At the same time, the publication assures that the Russian military machine cannot indefinitely maintain the current pace. The artillery is gradually wearing out. The source believes that in 2025 Russia will run out of spare parts and will have to use more missiles. Russian defense industrial potential will exhaust itself in 2025, said one Western official who wished to remain anonymous.Meanwhile, according to the authors of The Economist, Ukraine’s potential on the battlefield continues to grow. Annual production of shells in America should rise to about 1,2 million next year. Add to this European shells - 1,4 million this year and 2 million next - and Ukraine's allies could soon match Russian production.One of The Economist's informants, who claims to be familiar with the planning of Ukrainian operations, said that Kyiv will need until 2026 or 2027 to prepare an offensive.

[Nexcom]

Well, as if we also increased the pace of weapons production and repairs......
Lost and worn-out equipment is replenished.

[Nastia makarova]

this is also why the Russian defense complex will exhaust itself in 2025

[Orange bigg]

Quote.

. At the same time, the publication assures that the Russian military machine cannot indefinitely maintain the current pace. The artillery is gradually wearing out. The source believes that in 2025 Russia will run out of spare parts and will have to use more missiles. Russian defense industrial potential will exhaust itself in 2025, said one Western official who wished to remain anonymous.

Although they may be wishful thinking.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

this is also why the Russian defense complex will exhaust itself in 2025

Well, in the twenty-fourth it’s unlikely, but in the twenty-sixth it somehow looks too pessimistic. And we need to encourage readers. Therefore twenty-fifth. Until which Ukraine only has eight months left to hold out. And then the suit will trample. Or he won’t trample. But that will be another story, other interviews and other headlines...

[lis-ik]

I have a question for those who downvote a person just because, unlike the Kremlin bots, he was not too lazy to look through various sources and conveyed information to us, why should you show your narrow-mindedness and loutishness with your minuses?

[Ovsigovets]

Or maybe it’s the other way around that the people who are missing are minus because, as for me, this shows how mattresses travel between the stupid forelocks. VO plan, reliable as a Swiss watch))))

[lis-ik]

T.N. “everything is lost”, as a rule, are reasoned, but Za-Putin’s people, in impotent anger, simply stupidly minus. They have no arguments, and where could they come from?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: lis-ik

T.N. "everything is missing", usually well-reasoned

Correction: all the assholes are not reasoned, but consider themselves reasoned due to the fact that they graze on various information dumps and therefore consider themselves independent thinking people.
Which is quite typical for those who enjoy a complex of their own usefulness.

[Ovsigovets]

Stupid people have no arguments; this has nothing to do with political preferences or party affiliation. Arguments arise from the presence of knowledge and immersion in the issue under discussion, and also from the level of erudition)))))

[Ovsigovets]

By the way, for arguing your point of view, you get a D according to your own parameters)))) ..... I haven’t read a single fact and confirmation, only your nervous foam)))))

[Grancer81]

Studying the problem of weapons production from open sources is like listening to old women on a dump, blindfolded.....

[75 Sergey]

Who would doubt it, the delay is similar to change, but we have no mobilization, and yet we still have training and coherence.

[Machito]

Most likely, the Abrams were taken to the rear to install barbecues. Otherwise it's just a coffin on tracks.
Due to the situation in Ocheretino, we will soon see them at the front again.

[Shooting]

Or perhaps the only crew member there is the loader from Bandera, all the rest are amers. So we are not ready to lose our crews. As an option.

[Lev_Russia]

There are no tanks with absolute protection.

There are no tanks that don’t burn - there are tanks that they simply don’t shoot at... Or they hide them in the rear...

[Nexcom]

No, if you completely fill the insides of the entire Abrams with concrete through the hatches, then you probably won’t knock it out or burn it....

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Nexcom

then probably not to knock it out, not to burn it...

All that remains is to use the method of Turgenevsky Gerasim.

[Vladimir 290]

The British were the first to use this cunning tactic with their challengers, and losses immediately decreased sharply. Very effective, help is available and there are no losses

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

“Then let the whole army be taken to the rearso that she does not become a target for Russians at the front" -

- But this would be the right decision...
(Or better yet, they will disband)

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

It would be better if they disbanded

This is already on the other side of the border, somewhere in Poland.

[Msi]

Why transfer tanks to Ukraine at all if, after several knocked out, a decision is made to withdraw them outside the combat zone.

It’s better to take them away and hide them in hangars. So it will be easier for ours at LBS. And then our missiles will arrive and demilitarize them, goodbye to weapons... for melting down...

[rocket757]

American experts: First we transfer Abrams tanks to Ukraine, then we are surprised that the Russians destroy them

. Come on, whine... the abras were burning here, there, and everywhere, counting, where at least some kind of military operations were carried out.

[rotmistr60]

Then let the entire army be withdrawn to the rear so that it does not become a target for the Russians at the front

Original proposal from an American commentator.

Why transfer tanks to Ukraine at all if, after several knocked out, a decision is made to withdraw them outside the combat zone.

Really why? Probably so that everyone knows that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have these tanks, but now they won’t show them.

[belost79]

This is to later declare at all sorts of exhibitions that thousands of Soviet and Russian tanks were destroyed in Ukraine, and only five Abrasovs died

[svan26]

They will take you away for a while. So as not to get to the exhibition by May 9 and not take pride of place next to the Leopard on Poklonnaya Hill.

[Or me]

That's how they will "remove" abrashi all the way to the western border?

the command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces followed the “recommendations” from overseas and took the remaining combat-ready Abrams away from the front line,

[sgr291158]

The Americans thought that their tanks were invulnerable, but everything turned out the other way around.

[Fitter65]

The command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces followed the “recommendations” from overseas and moved the remaining combat-ready Abrams away from the front line so that they would not become targets for Russian drones.

The guys were left without bonuses, how greedy these Abrams owners are.

[ROSS_51]

You don’t understand anything.. The Pentagon believes that Abrams are too expensive and beautiful to use in battle..

[Romanenko]

The Russians are to blame for everything, pin-do-sy, they delivered such beautiful tanks to pig-nosed people, and these bad Russians screwed them up and are still mocking them!

[Roust]

Any enemy rubbish will burn on Russian Land!

[Maxim]

They are already saying that one of our Abrams was pulled down. So, soon on Poklonnaya Hill in Patriot Park