“Kharkov, Odessa or cutting supply routes along the Dnieper”: in the West they put forward versions of the relative “future large-scale offensive of the Russian Armed Forces”

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“Kharkov, Odessa or cutting supply routes along the Dnieper”: in the West they put forward versions of the relative “future large-scale offensive of the Russian Armed Forces”

Voices are increasingly heard in the West that Russian troops will allegedly launch a large-scale offensive at the end of May - beginning of June. Western politicians, military men, and representatives of various para-political and para-military structures speak about this.

At first they said that the Russian Armed Forces were allegedly planning an offensive at this time, since “the ground would dry out.” That is, in February, March, April, the soil that was not completely dry or not at all was of little concern to the Russian army when they liberated Marinka, Avdeevka and other populated areas, and now, you see, “we are waiting for the soil to dry out.”



Of course, all these Western assumptions have nothing to do with weather conditions. But if they are not related to the weather, then why are they persistently promoting the idea that the Russian Armed Forces will “launch a powerful offensive” precisely at the end of May?

This is due to the fact that Zelensky’s legitimacy as President of Ukraine expires on May 20. And no matter how much the West repeats that “legitimacy will not disappear anywhere,” they themselves understand perfectly well that this is not so. And even more so, given the fact that Ukraine is not a presidential, but a parliamentary-presidential republic, and no elections to the Verkhovna Rada were held in this republic on time. That is, an illegitimate parliament a priori nullifies the legitimacy of all power.

Accordingly, in the West, realizing that, in fact, “that’s all” with legitimacy, they decide that it is after May 20 that Russia will move regiments, brigades, divisions and corps. With an emphasis on, “Well, we told you...” That’s if it moves. If nothing like this happens, the West already has the opportunity to justify itself: “This is because Moscow was afraid of the unity of the democratic world and, specifically, the allocation of a new package of military assistance to Ukraine.”

To date, while continuing to guess at the tea leaves, various types of Western “experts” are trying to draw a conclusion about the direction of the “probable Russian offensive.” The majority is “for” Kharkov. Some people believe that Russia will move towards Odessa or Kyiv. There are those who predict a “new march from Belarus” - so much so that it will march all the way across Ukraine, 500-600 kilometers, in order to cut supply routes, for example, along the Dnieper.

They can guess as much as they want. The main thing for our side is that the enemy must be crushed. Crushed so that the West simply has no options regarding who to deliver weapon, even if there are mountains. And the liberation of Chasov Yar or even Kharkov does not solve this issue. Yes, both this and this will be a significant, extremely significant success, but this, unfortunately, will in no way stop the possessed regime in its desire to attack our country with everything that will be given in the American and other packages, including long-range ATACMS. We will recapture Chasov Yar, Konstantinovka, Slavyansk, Kupyansk, the same Kharkov - they will bite dirty nails, sit in basements, chew another American carrot, but, nevertheless, come out to try to cause us damage over and over again. Therefore, any piece of anti-Russia should not be given a single chance.
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  1. +10
    April 23 2024 19: 47
    The army is ready to carry out any order and liberate even the entire outskirts. The main thing is that our leadership does not fall for an agreement with the West again!
    1. +2
      April 23 2024 20: 43
      Quote: vasyliy1
      The army is ready to carry out any order and liberate even the entire outskirts. The main thing is that our leadership does not fall for an agreement with the West again!

      To liberate ALL of Ukraine and control it, the group of troops that is now participating in the Northern Military District is not enough. General mobilization will be needed!
      1. +1
        April 23 2024 21: 09
        General mobilization will be needed!

        It’s so necessary... There in the West our “well-wishers” have already outlined how we will attack, where we will attack, but they stubbornly refuse to say who will attack...??? Where have we prepared at least a half-million reserve...??? And this is clearly not enough to take large cities like Kharkov, Odessa and Nikolaev... In general, the West is once again rushing us and pushing us towards some kind of clearly unprepared adventure, and our first priority is not to get caught up in it... Any global offensive requires We are seriously preparing and we definitely can’t do it without mobilization...
        1. +2
          April 24 2024 05: 42
          Judging by the fact that no one is going to carry out mobilization, no major offensive operations are planned. Accordingly, we must forget about Kharkov, Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev, and even more so, Kyiv. our leadership hopes only for agreements.
          1. +1
            April 24 2024 05: 59
            Quote: Pantsuy
            we must forget about Kharkov, Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev and even more so, Kyiv

            Well... I don’t even dream about Kyiv))) But without the other cities you listed, creating a stable balance in security is unlikely. I would also add Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk...
            1. +1
              April 24 2024 12: 33
              All these dreams of offensives are broadcast only by people divorced from reality! Everything is decided by our chief, and for two years he has not given an order either for the destruction of bridges across the Dnieper, or for the destruction of TP 750, which would have actually destroyed the energy sector of Ukraine, or for the destruction of aqueducts and tunnels in Western Ukraine, or for the destruction of television centers and the leadership of the Nazis. All this means that our main one is doing the same thing: in 2014 and in the spring of 2022 he is waiting for an offer from an agreement, and as soon as he receives it, he will happily betray everyone and everything as he did with the uncontested Minsk betrayal, with the Goodwill Gesture and so on.
              Well, our main guy doesn’t really want to win. Our army and our people want to win, but he, his entourage and the foreign oligarchs don’t want to win, they want to merge everything and they will merge everything.
          2. 0
            April 25 2024 06: 41
            We don’t need any drastic changes to the database map right now. Gradual pressure will save personnel. GDP has already said more than once that changes on the map are not our main goal. Medvedev's card is just a signal to the puppeteers about our determination not to stop. So, no need to worry, everything has its time.
      2. -5
        April 23 2024 21: 43
        A good idea.
        The men will go to the front, and their place will be taken by “valuable specialists” from Central Asia.
        This seems to be where it's going
        1. +3
          April 24 2024 06: 04
          Quote: rgd20
          The men will go to the front, and their place will be taken by “valuable specialists” from Central Asia.
          This seems to be where it's going

          Well, yes, the music from the office plankton will go to the front, and their place will be taken by “valuable specialists” from Central Asia - chasing balls, playing solitaire, changing the water in the cooler, charging paper in the printer and waiting for Friday...
          1. 0
            April 24 2024 07: 21
            It’s even interesting - what is the percentage of troops in the Northern Military District zone made up of people by region - are there many Muscovites and St. Petersburg residents there? Probably more than half are patriots.
            1. 0
              April 24 2024 13: 57
              Quote: Al Manah
              It’s even interesting - what is the percentage of troops in the Northern Military District zone made up of people by region - are there many Muscovites there?

              Well, if you consider that the lion's share of those whom you call Muscovites are first-generation Muscovites, that is, those who came from the same regions and came to Moscow with certain goals and a certain scale of values... then what's the difference?
          2. +1
            April 24 2024 07: 49
            Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
            Well, yes, the music from the office plankton will go to the front, and their place will be taken by “valuable specialists” from Central Asia - chasing balls, playing solitaire, changing the water in the cooler, charging paper in the printer and waiting for Friday...



            Why are you so afraid to face the truth?
            In the Russian Federation today there is almost zero unemployment, because the economy is working at its limit.
            They are mobilizing another 1,5 million to carry out the operation - who will take their place?
            Or do you think that the Babijons who buy passports without paying taxes put their entire village on social benefits, from clinics to kindergartens to schools, preferential mortgages, etc. - go to the Russian Federation solely to participate in the SVO?

            Remove the pink glasses.
            There are already at least 15 million “valuable specialists” in the country, or 10% of the population, and thanks to the Russian Federation’s policy in the field of migration, it is constantly growing.
            By the way, it was officially announced in our city that they are already bringing in migrants from Bangladesh this year.

            And as for the office plankton, at least 15 individual entrepreneurs and LLC managers were mobilized. By the way.
            By the way, the situation with those “office plankton” who ran away from mobilization (I’m not discussing now whether this is good or bad and I’m not giving them an assessment) led to the fact that some companies could not find a replacement for six months or a year and there was a wild shortage in the job market.
            Because office plankton is not just playing solitaire on a work PC, as some people who do not know the situation primitively argue.

            The Russian Federation is not suitable for the Northern Military District in the form into which it itself has brought it. It is a fact. And yes, the majority of the population will not run to the front, but will prefer to flee the country. Those who fled but returned will be joined by hundreds of thousands more, or even more.

            So before you yell “give more meat to the front,” you need to at least understand the consequences of this step
            And despite the bunch of mistakes and failures that Putin made during his 20+ years on the throne, I understand perfectly well why he doesn’t carry out this very mobilization beyond those 300 thousand in 2022

            And I’ll see, some people here really like to yell
            1. -1
              April 24 2024 14: 14
              Quote: rgd20
              Or do you think that the Babijons who buy passports without paying taxes put their entire village on social benefits, from clinics to kindergartens to schools, preferential mortgages, etc. - go to the Russian Federation solely to participate in the SVO?

              I believe that the problem is not with the Babidzhons, but with the Mary Ivannys, who sell them these passports and benefits!
              Quote: rgd20
              There are already at least 15 million “valuable specialists” in the country, or 10% of the population, and thanks to the Russian Federation’s policy in the field of migration, it is constantly growing.

              Who is guilty? Capital looking for cheap labor in order to minimize costs? Or the officials in his employ?
              And what should I do? I propose to abolish Capitalism. But you are probably not so radical?
              Quote: rgd20
              Because office plankton is not just playing solitaire on a work PC, as some people who do not know the situation primitively argue.

              Certainly! These are, for the most part, sales managers for foreign products! Where would the economy be without them? After all, they have been talking about it for so many years - The main thing is not to produce, The main thing is to be able to sell!
              Quote: rgd20
              And yes, the majority of the population will not run to the front, but will prefer to flee the country. Those who fled but returned will be joined by hundreds of thousands more, or even more.

              Well, how many fled when mobilization was announced? In a relationship? Somehow it doesn’t fit in with the majority! Don't judge people by yourself and think that everyone is like that...
              Quote: rgd20
              So before you yell “give more meat to the front”

              Quote: rgd20
              And I’ll see, some people here really like to yell

              I didn’t notice who’s yelling here request Unless you are shaking for your office-plankton bottom... Scary? But there is no money to go abroad... I don’t even sympathize... wassat
              1. 0
                April 24 2024 14: 38
                Something I didn’t notice, who’s yelling request Are you shaking for your office-plankton butt... Scary? But there is no money to go abroad... I don’t even sympathize... wassat


                Isn’t it a shame to answer for the words about seniority?
                I’m not eager to go to the front, and I’m no longer 30 years old to run around the trenches equally, although most youngsters won’t keep up with me.
                But if they call me, I’ll go.
                We, the citizens of the Russian Federation, and not the children of the people who allowed this to happen, are responsible for any mistakes in assessing the scale of the SVO and the consequences of the agreements.
                And I lived abroad for several years. And I can go there at any time. I want - that's another question.
                Your horizons are very limited. You talk about life in a stereotyped way
                As I understand it, you yourself are writing from a trench in the Northern Military District?

                Well, how many fled when mobilization was announced? In a relationship?

                Yandex blocked it.
                Almost half a million, with a very large number of the most qualified specialists. And, by the way, you have no right to condemn them for this!

                And many more would leave if people had such an opportunity.


                Certainly! These are, for the most part, sales managers for foreign products! Where would the economy be without them? After all, they have been talking about it for so many years - The main thing is not to produce, The main thing is to be able to sell!



                The greatest expert on economy, I'll take a look.
                Embarrassment, maybe that's enough already
                Yes, 80% were IT and technical specialists who still cannot be replaced, it helps that some have returned. Approximately 25-30%
                And no Babaijons will replace them. But the Russian Federation has every chance of falling hopelessly behind in the field of high technology.
                And, by the way, educated citizens of Central Asia do not come to us. Only the most uneducated and still supporters of all sorts of exotic movements, which have very little to do with so-called Islam. Guess why
      3. +2
        April 24 2024 00: 39
        General mobilization will be needed!

        Maybe it will be enough to properly shake up the Kuzhugetovich-Gerasimov department?

        Russian Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov is reported to have been arrested on suspicion of taking a bribe. The article of the Criminal Code under which he was detained provides for a punishment of 15 years in prison.

        Timur Ivanov worked in the structures of Rosatom and the Ministry of Energy, in 2012 appointed general director of the state-owned Oboronstroy, and in May 2016 - Deputy Minister of Defense.

        Spouse: Svetlana Maniovich - ... businessman's ex-wife Alexander Maniovich and close friend of the deceased leader of the Izmailovo group Anton Malevsky.

        Maybe the problems at the construction sites of the Vostochny cosmodrome began after Ivanov joined Oboronstroy there in 2012?

        Already in 2018, due to various violations during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, the Prosecutor General’s Office identified damage amounting to 10 billion rubles. Since the start of construction of the cosmodrome in 2014, the department has identified more than 17 thousand violations of the law...
        1. 0
          April 24 2024 02: 46
          I'll complement myself.

          Some details from Yura Podolyaki:

          According to a source close to the security forces, in addition to Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov, three more people were detained. Investigations are currently underway.

          Preliminarily, all employees of the Ministry of Defense/government agencies.

          Ivanov himself was guarded by an elite special squad that could open fire to kill anyone who tried to detain Ivanov. The only place where he was without security was a meeting with the country's top leadership.

          And from TASS, with reference to an unnamed source in the intelligence services:

          1. The FSB military counterintelligence is handling the Ivanov case.
          2. Ivanov’s case has been developed for a long time and he was detained due to a set of measures against him.
          3. Now investigative actions are being carried out with Ivanov.
        2. 0
          April 24 2024 13: 54
          Russian Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov is reported to have been arrested on suspicion of taking a bribe. The article of the Criminal Code under which he was detained provides for a punishment of 15 years in prison

          And we make fun of the Ukrainians that they have one thing: total corruption and bribery, they steal and steal everything they can.
          So the mentality is similar to us, as the facts show. They didn't go far from us.
      4. 0
        April 24 2024 04: 15
        Yeah... Carry out mobilization (by the way, as many as you want, a million... two?), distribute Kalash rifles to them, get three-line rifles, maxims, PPSh from the stash - and go on meat assaults!!?
        I think our leadership has other plans: to increase the production of UAVs, high-precision missiles and bombs, electronic warfare systems, tanks, self-propelled guns, aircraft... Knock out their air defense system, artillery, manpower to the maximum... And when the advantage becomes even more significant - break through the front...
        And to mobilize the men - who to put on the machines? Women and children? - it won’t work, now the machines are not the same as in 1941... Have you seen modern machining centers? There is already a serious shortage of personnel in all industries, and mobilization will simply finish off both industry and the entire economy.
        1. -1
          April 24 2024 06: 15
          Quote from Andy_nsk
          increase the production of UAVs, high-precision missiles and bombs, electronic warfare systems, tanks, self-propelled guns, aircraft...

          Everything you listed does not occupy or control the territory!
          Quote from Andy_nsk
          (by the way, how much do you want, a million... two?)

          Yes, I wouldn’t want to at all! I would prefer that our leadership solved issues using other methods and through the wrong hands! But since we have what we have, where should we go?
          Quote from Andy_nsk
          And to mobilize the men - who to put on the machines? Women and children?

          And our whole Country is standing at the machines? Just such an industrial supercluster?
          Quote from Andy_nsk
          There is already a serious shortage of personnel in all industries, and mobilization will simply finish off both industry and the entire economy.

          Is there a shortage of workers from the Northern Military District or what? Or from the policies and ideology that have been promoted over the past 30 years?
          1. 0
            April 24 2024 10: 58
            As far as I know, the Russian Armed Forces already have a numerical advantage, and if we take into account that due to the massive use of bombs and shells this advantage is only increasing, it is not difficult to predict what will happen next, and those several tens of thousands of boys who the military commissars will be able to catch on Square , will not bring a turning point in military operations, given the complete lack of motivation and preparation. This means that they will not be able to hold the front for a long period of time, there will be impulses and there will be no one to shut them up.
            But maintaining the occupied territory is a matter for other people. How many people do we serve in the National Guard and the police? Definitely more than they are currently fighting on the front line. In the end, conscripts can also guard important facilities.
            And the shortage of workers and engineers has become critical in the last two years, at least in the provinces (I don’t know about the capital, there are always tons of people there), but weapons are forged in the provinces, including the Urals and Siberia.
        2. 0
          April 26 2024 14: 30
          These are not the same machines, but the ones they show on TV. The same way the universal turners worked, they will continue to work for another 30 years, or even more. From personal experience. Now I am 57 years old. He came to the plant as a young specialist in 1992. There were CNC lathes, a control unit "NTs-31", in 2003 he left the plant in 2016. I came to work in 2016. Out of 6 NCs, 2 remained and I found you, you won’t believe it, “I cried, I remembered my youth.” And next to it are the usual 1k62 and a lot of universal turners. So they are now scalding the state defense. And you are talking about the wrong machines. The same approach remains. Until the rooster pecks, the manager does not cross himself. And where will you teach the workers today? The vocational education system has collapsed. The roof of the school collapsed inward in my city. The conclusion is very obvious: we are not ready for a long war. We won't pull it off. There are few resources, and what resources are left are only used for this. And I assure you, do not believe the fairy tales about AI that will replace the worker tomorrow. Fuck it. A NC program for the machine must be created, worked out, and only then mass-produced into series and further optimized. Lick. But equipment for production is made individually, and during the time of working out the CNC program, the station wagon will make two or even three different parts.
          1. 0
            April 26 2024 17: 55
            In our production, designers immediately make drawings on a computer and immediately receive a program for processing the part on a CNC machine (all machines are imported). Universal machines are used for very simple parts in the manufacture of mock-ups and prototypes, and also, as you rightly noted, in the manufacture of equipment. Even in small-scale production, we do not use station wagons.
            As for weapons, quite large series are produced almost everywhere (with the exception of prototypes, which in the overall flow constitute an insignificant part of the entire production), so there is no point in using station wagons there.
            Literally next to us is the Chkalov NAPO (the Su-34 is made there), and of course there is new modern equipment, including CNC machining centers (we cooperate with Chkalovites).
            1. 0
              April 26 2024 19: 14
              Super, airplanes and their components are actually now made on modern machines, and thank the creator that they managed to re-equip and today we produce on imported machines what flies. But this aviation is almost a piece goods. The series (batch) is not hundreds of thousands as in mass production. Let's take a large-caliber cartridge case for howitzers. You can’t sharpen it on CNC machines. The capitalists are pushing, we are pulling. The tools here and there are one-piece and they are made by generalists. There are dies and punches in the hood and they produce thousands of pieces until they are replaced for repairs or completely worn out. In mass production, a cheap part is produced using a cheap tool. A CNC machine with hard alloy tools is expensive for a mass product. This is a serial and small-scale product. Just right for aviation. The details are complex and precise. And the Muzarbeks will not be able to work on it. Trading fruits is something that has no equal. Hard physical labor is also ahead of the Slavs. They don’t have much work in their homeland, so that’s why they come to us. And if they raise the issue of mobilization, it will be difficult in production. And production technology in wartime conditions implies simple and reliable machines. And the requirements for products are simplified. So it will be possible to put women at the machines. It’s a pity that in 24 years, a lot has been destroyed and destroyed. Serdyukov optimized the Russian Armed Forces, but there weren’t enough lieutenants. There are no disbanded schools. An example is the flight school in Orenburg, this is just what I have at home. Today, in the Northern Military District, lieutenants are given to mobilized people who have gone through the crucible of battles. This has already happened in the history of the Soviet Union, my grandfather returned as a senior lieutenant from the Second World War. And the worst thing I think is that the goal is not to win. The task is to try it on. And here lies not the destruction of strategic bridges across the Dnieper, the Chop junction station. Grain deals, etc. there is no goal to win. So you wonder how long this grinding of human lives will last. And soon the question of mobilizing additional ones will arise. Or they will sit down to negotiate. But it won't be soon. Sadly.
      5. -1
        April 24 2024 04: 34
        General mobilization will be needed!

        This is already a declaration of war for Ukraine and the West.
        Do we need this??? We have not yet resolved the problem with the flood, where the army and the Ministry of Emergency Situations are helping in some places to combat the consequences of natural disasters.
        Before you shout, think about the consequences.
        1. -2
          April 24 2024 06: 35
          Quote: Joker62
          This is already a declaration of war for Ukraine and the West.
          Do we need this??? We have not yet resolved the problem with the flood, where the army and the Ministry of Emergency Situations are helping in some places to combat the consequences of natural disasters.
          Before you shout, think about the consequences.

          Floods happen every year, as do forest fires! So what now, do nothing else besides this?
          Quote: Joker62
          Before you shout, think about the consequences.

          The consequences of our inaction over recent years are already reverberating, including in our border regions! It will only get worse, our territory exposed to attacks will only expand! There are only two options here - surrender or win. And in order to win and guarantee further security, half measures are not enough; we cannot do without general mobilization!
    2. 0
      April 23 2024 21: 22
      [This is due to the fact that Zelensky’s legitimacy as President of Ukraine expires on May 20. ]

      Maybe the green bean will be killed after May 20th?
      A promise not to touch the drug addict president, and after the 20th he is no longer a president, but a simple drug addict who must be destroyed!
      1. +1
        April 23 2024 21: 46
        Maybe the green bean will be killed after May 20th?

        Well, Budanov will take his place.

        I would like to remind you that when the full scale of the problem became clear with the beginning of the Northern Military District, that no one was responsible for Kharkov, Nikolaev, or Kyiv, Putin made an appeal:
        “Remove the drug addict, and we will come to an agreement with you.” But no one removed the drug addict, and no one took away the keys to the indicated cities.
        Why did they decide that the SVO would end if they killed Ze?
        1. +2
          April 23 2024 22: 31
          Why did they decide that the SVO would end if they killed Ze?

          For the same reason why they think that if Putin is removed, something will change.
          The magical consciousness that one person decides everything. So it was and so it will be.
          1. 0
            April 23 2024 22: 33
            Yeah. Trump will be re-elected and the US will stop sending weapons to 404
            1. +2
              April 23 2024 22: 36
              98% probability scenario:

              Trump dude is simple: VLAD, STOP ZIR THIEF! I SAID AT THE ELECTIONS THAT THE WAR WOULD END IN 24 HOURS!
              Vlad says: go to hell, donny, I have my own goals and I’m not going to help your program.

              An angry donny doubles the supply of 404.
              in the evening an article comes out on VO that Trump deceived Russia.
          2. 0
            April 24 2024 08: 14
            For the same reason why they think that if Putin is removed, something will change.
            The magical consciousness that one person decides everything. So it was and so it will be.
            In fact, everything is exactly the opposite. It’s the authorities that are here and there that are profitable to hang noodles on, that nothing will change, and therefore there is no point in touching them, let everything remain as it is.
            But remember the march for justice. When people just wanted to talk. And how then the entire Kremlin scurried away, its heels shining, to hide in holes away from Moscow. It will be the same in Ukraine, it is worth starting to systematically destroy their top, not necessarily even the green ones, 4-5 of his associates. How immediately everyone who is at their trough suddenly loses their trousers and floods everything with stinking liquid and scurries in all directions. The elimination of at least part of the top of the Ukroreich will cause a complete collapse of the Ukrovermacht. For even the weapons will be handed over to no one knows who, and who will then be asked for them.
        2. 0
          April 24 2024 01: 32
          Quote: rgd20
          Well, Budanov will take his place.
          It won't take. Western masters do not need such odious personalities NOW. So, there will inevitably be a change of scenery. Few of the old actors will remain; new ones will be appointed. For example, Dmitry Razumkov could become Zelensky’s successor (his candidacy is being considered by the United States). The West needs temporary a truce (agreement) to replenish arsenals. But Zelensky doesn’t know how to change shoes like that, for him it’s a loss of face... so one Moor will inevitably be replaced by another.
      2. -1
        April 23 2024 23: 05
        Quote: your vsr 66-67
        Maybe the green bean will be killed after May 20th?

        I'm sure they won't screw me up, I really want to be wrong here.
      3. -1
        April 24 2024 05: 50
        Stop calling the green drug addict Zeliboboy!
        Zeliba was a cool guy.
      4. -1
        April 24 2024 08: 02
        Maybe the green bean will be killed after May 20th?
        A promise not to touch the drug addict president, and after the 20th he is no longer a president, but a simple drug addict who must be destroyed!
        The promise was not to touch the Jewish drug addict. And after 20, he will become an even bigger Jew, and will say that he has nothing to do with Ukraine at all.
  2. +1
    April 23 2024 19: 51
    We need to hit the “unbreakable” places in Kyiv, first of all! Then it will be much easier for our military to fight on the front line!
    1. -3
      April 23 2024 20: 42
      Not the Dnieper, but the Danube. NATO and EU section from Eastern Europe.
      Bang bang and Serbia will take over Osijek and Sofia with Pristina.
      Churchill will stand on his eyebrows in his coffin
  3. -1
    April 23 2024 19: 52
    And then bam bam (c) GDP and there is no offensive and the West is in shock... well, when will you capture Ukraine and go to the Baltic states??!! We planned everything! It's not fair! crying ... we're already tired laughing Multi-move! (With) good
    1. -1
      April 23 2024 20: 43
      I don’t know what it’s like with the fortifications and the terrain and our resources (manpower and ammunition), but if you look at the map, an interesting multi-movement can turn out if you open a second front in the Sumy region near Belopolye and move towards Romny. We then begin covering Sumy while moving towards the Dnieper and Kyiv.
  4. +1
    April 23 2024 19: 53
    “Kharkov, Odessa or cutting supply routes along the Dnieper”: in the West they put forward versions of the relative “future large-scale offensive of the Russian Armed Forces”
    . By the way, when there is a large choice, it is convenient and confuses the enemy.
    Building capital defense lines everywhere, such a thing, is not a cheap thing, and you need a lot of resources.... Moreover, we honor them, fill the defense line with troops and reinforcement means... in general, the problem is hardly solvable for them !
  5. +2
    April 23 2024 20: 15
    We are doomed to create a security zone up to and including the Danube.
    1. 0
      April 23 2024 20: 26
      The safety zone is the complete absence of forest plantations, the complete absence of settlements larger than a village, bridges can only be passed by a tractor with a cart of hay... And so on to the Danube
      1. -1
        April 23 2024 21: 58
        Krynki in the Kherson region is a village and so shabby that mother, don’t worry. Flyhosk is Miami in comparison. And these ghouls sit there in the basements and snarl. The western part of the outskirts considers itself a separate people. We definitely have nothing in common with them. Only Orthodox regions are needed. In the rest of the territory there are our military bases and shooting without warning. It's unlikely to change this. But they need to be driven out of Kyiv for sure!
      2. -1
        April 24 2024 05: 03
        The safety zone is the complete absence of forest plantations, the complete absence of settlements larger than a village, bridges can only be passed by a tractor with a cart of hay... And so on to the Danube
        The best thing is not to the Danube, but to the English Channel...
    2. +1
      April 23 2024 20: 50
      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      We are doomed to create a security zone up to and including the Danube.

      To the Vistula and Oder! Because when she was there, outbreaks were happening somewhere in Hungary or Czechoslovakia. But in the metropolis everything was calm!
      By the way, when the fire broke out in Hungary in 56, we sent in a group of troops numbering 500 thousand! Moreover, there was no smell of NATO there, just local fascist underdogs... And then they decided to throw hats at Ukraine, which had been pumped up and trained by NATO for 8 years... Who is it in our leadership that is so self-confident... request
  6. +2
    April 23 2024 20: 50
    Ukroreich must be cleansed. Otherwise, he will not give Russia a peaceful life.
  7. +1
    April 23 2024 21: 16
    Without a qualitative breakthrough in the reb and in an operational defeat in tactical depth, all this will not be easy.
  8. +1
    April 23 2024 21: 29
    Why run ahead of the locomotive? - We’ll advance and you’ll see tongue
  9. 0
    April 23 2024 21: 33
    Fairy-tale comments))
  10. +2
    April 23 2024 22: 04
    In my amateurish opinion, the idea is slowly being introduced into society, you want the majority of Ukraine, general mobilization. If you don’t want mobilization, there will be negotiations.
  11. 0
    April 23 2024 23: 03
    Russian troops will allegedly launch a large-scale offensive at the end of May - beginning of June.

    If there are significant trained and armed reserves, they will begin, and if the reserves are small, then they will continue to butt heads in the Donbass.
  12. +1
    April 23 2024 23: 22
    What’s wrong with the current tactics of grinding “meat marches”? Cavalry attacks are, of course, spectacular and spectacular, but after them there are many widows and orphans left. And so the boys are grinding with good efficiency and a very strong moral injury for Independence..
  13. +1
    April 24 2024 00: 00
    Who gave any hope that there would be a large-scale offensive? During 2.5 years of war, has our General Staff given even the slightest reason to predict the course of hostilities in this way? It seems to me that no one will change the chosen tactics. Everything according to Clausivitz
    1. +1
      April 24 2024 02: 01
      Oh, and some nonsense about General Mobilization, which is generally illogical these days. When our situation was more acute in 2023 and riskier, partial mobilization was bypassed, but here forum specialists are flogging nonsense about the Universal.
  14. -2
    April 24 2024 00: 52
    Voices are increasingly heard in the West that Russian troops will allegedly launch a large-scale offensive at the end of May - beginning of June.

    If their “fortune-telling” comes true, then they are doing the right thing by cutting the supply line along the Dnieper. Just repeat, why did they delay for so long with the destruction of their logistics?
  15. -1
    April 24 2024 13: 34
    The diagnosis in Moscow was not only wrong, but also late. Metastases have penetrated into all 404 pores and no therapy can cure this. Only removal of this malignant tumor, because delay threatens further spread. No one managed to end any conflict with a victory in defense. And there should be no choice - will we take Odessa? And Ochakov? The only thing is the five westernmost regions. Let the Poles take it for themselves - they will restore long-standing scores and put things in order very quickly. And then - we can negotiate. But on our terms. IR from the position of a winner, that is, a strong one. Otherwise they won't understand