"Leopard"? Your exit is to Red Square

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"Leopard"? Your exit is to Red Square

In what will be proposed as a result of this short speech, don’t look for anything particularly new. Showing off trophies won in battle has always been considered more than just good manners.

This was an indicator of the future winner’s self-confidence, and at the same time it was supposed to instill exactly the same confidence in the broad ranks of the civilian population. It is customary to display trophies even many years after the Victory.




Look at the Napoleonic cannons, which can now be seen both in the Kremlin and next to the Borodino panorama. And from Turkish cannons taken near Plevna and not only near the Trinity Cathedral, once the Life Guards of the Finnish Regiment, a whole triumphal column was erected in St. Petersburg.

Even the wreckage of the American Lockheed U-1 reconnaissance aircraft shot down on May 1960, 2 in the sky between Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk had to be presented to the public, because the Americans hastened to show off the painted double. It’s good that ours managed to capture the surviving pilot Gary Powers.


As you know, in recent months the Russian collection of captured Western equipment has been constantly expanding. The other day, the press service of the Russian Ministry of Defense showed footage of towing to the rear of another tank "Leopard", apparently, made in Germany.

I have no doubt, both NATO and our intelligence know very well who had it in service. These are not the times when something like this can be hidden for any length of time, and no one really tried.

But to hide the loss of a combat vehicle, especially one as popular as weapon inevitable, or rather, a promised, but still not happened, victory, preferably for as long as possible. And this is generally understandable.

So why are we not in a hurry to show our convincing and demonstrative success in response?

After all, Russian fighters already have German Leopards, US Abrams, and Bradleys, along with the damned Highmars.

And there are not so few of them, and not all of them found death somewhere in the impassable mud on neutral ground, and in such a way that there was nothing left to take out. Or does it really take that much time to skim the cream off a downed enemy, and only then transport him to where he should go?

I don’t argue – it’s not at all harmful to sort things out there. Military technologies are now almost ahead of the IT sector in terms of the pace of introducing new things. What was conceived in research centers, tested in laboratories and even tested at testing grounds.

But so much time has passed since the first reptile with the beautiful name “Leopard” was shot down that all excuses are now perceived only as excuses. And there is definitely no need to repeat that bringing a knocked out fascist “Leopard”, who, apparently, is not the best heir to the “Tigers” and Panthers, to the Russian capital is too troublesome and difficult.

Therefore, I propose, after the end of the main part of the Victory Parade on May 9, to organize on Red Square the transport on trailers of samples of captured and damaged Western equipment that were destroyed or simply captured during the SVO.

Such an action will not only have an undeniable inspiring impact on the citizens of our country. It will clearly show the whole world with whom and what a Russian soldier actually has to deal with in a cruel and bloody way today.

Well, since foreign journalists are unlikely to be able to keep silent about such an action, of course, as propaganda in their reports, the effect will be quite strong. I think it was no less powerful than Tucker Carlson’s interview with our president.

The column of captured equipment may not be taken immediately to the Patriot Park, but will be first demonstrated in the most crowded places of the capital - at the main entrance to VDNKh and at the Central Park of Culture and Leisure named after. M. Gorky.

Gorky Park has had this tradition since war times, and this is what will immediately and very significantly expand the audience of the exhibition.


Once upon a time, without waiting for the Red Army to launch a full-scale counter-offensive, it was in Gorky Park that Muscovites, of whom there were not very many left in the capital due to the evacuation, were presented with both downed Messers and Fokkewulfs, as well as tanks with guns.


And then at the end of the summer of 1944, when the long-awaited Victory already appeared on the horizon, let me remind you that an unusual parade was also held in Moscow. Along the Garden Ring they drove, with washing trucks behind, a column of German prisoners who surrendered to ours during the Belarusian operation, beautifully named “Bagration”.

I would like to believe that we will also have the right to repeat something similar. And the sooner the better.
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  1. +38
    April 24 2024 05: 16
    For starters, stop boarding up the Mausoleum with plywood.
    1. 0
      April 24 2024 05: 33
      organize the transportation of samples of captured and damaged Western equipment on trailers to Red Square
      There will probably be foreigners at the parade - let them admire it!
    2. +4
      April 24 2024 06: 05
      Why is everything being transported to Moscow? The rest of Russia is a third-class country, they are not entitled to it? Is it difficult to load a dozen units onto trawls and transport them through cities with a population of over a million, having notified the population of these cities in advance? Why does this exclusivity in everything in Moscow’s relationship with the rest of Russia prevail in everyone? Moreover, the equipment was transported through the Rostov region - it was impossible to bring it to Rostov-on-Don, Krasnodar, or Stavropol for a couple of days? Why has this become the norm even in such matters as displaying trophies???
      1. +1
        April 24 2024 06: 25
        Most of this damaged equipment remains on the battlefield, either as completely “disassembled” scrap metal, or there is no way to remove it.
      2. +2
        April 24 2024 12: 38
        Quote: Thrifty
        Why is everything being transported to Moscow? The rest of Russia is a third-class country, they are not entitled to it? Is it difficult to load a dozen units onto trawls and transport them through cities with a population of over a million, having notified the population of these cities in advance?

        Well, why only for cities with a population of over a million? At the beginning of April this year, the second exhibition of captured equipment came to us in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. The only bad thing is that it lasts almost half a day. Well, regarding your indignation, there was a proposal to take the exhibition to different cities after Moscow.
        An exhibition of captured weapons and equipment captured during a special military operation in Ukraine will be held in Victory Park on Poklonnaya Hill in Moscow. It will open on May 1 and will operate for a month, reports the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation..... After the completion of the exhibition, the Ministry of Defense could move the equipment to railway platforms and send the train to the cities of Russia, so that not only in the capital they would personally evaluate the results of the work of Russian soldiers in during the SVO.
    3. +11
      April 24 2024 06: 11
      Quote: Aerodrome
      For starters, stop boarding up the Mausoleum with plywood.

      It is forbidden. What are you offering, this is a basic bond, the main traditional value!
      The only thing that unites all these Vekselberg-Rottenberg-Berezovskys, Albatso-Katsovs, Yeltsino-Putins and other Banderaites with their forest brothers. Local natives can fight among themselves until the second coming for the amusement of the Western masters, transport Leopards with T-90s back and forth, and shout hurray. This is all possible and necessary.
      But all of them must strictly hate Lenin! No liberties are allowed here. Otherwise, the whole holiday of life may end, and this is unacceptable.
      1. 0
        April 26 2024 13: 04
        Quote: Belisarius
        The only thing that unites all these Vekselberg-Rottenberg-Berezovskys, Albatso-Katsovs, Yeltsino-Putins
        Why did you remove VIL from this series? His maternal grandfather:
        "According to the American professor of Jewish origin G. M. Deitch and his followers - including Soviet Jewish dissidents E. I. Melamed and M. G. Stein - A. D. Blank was a baptized Jew," hi
    4. +1
      April 24 2024 13: 40
      There is an opinion that it should be the other way around. By the way, this is what was done during the Second World War.
    5. 0
      April 24 2024 20: 14
      For starters, stop boarding up the Mausoleum with plywood.

      And its occupant should be given a human burial.
    6. 0
      April 28 2024 08: 34
      It is better to move the mausoleum to Bald Mountain near Kyiv, as a reminder to the ancient Ukrainians of who created them in hellfire.
  2. -5
    April 24 2024 05: 24
    It’s a very good idea to transport a Leopard tank around Red Square...preferably on its own and with a Zelensky effigy inside. smile
    1. +5
      April 24 2024 10: 17
      A very good idea to transport a Leopard tank around Red Square.


      Even better is to severely and publicly punish bribe takers. Especially during the operation of the SVO, both civilian and military.

      Investigative Committee: Shoigu’s deputy was detained on suspicion of receiving a bribe on an especially large scale. ...

      ...A year ago, it was published online how Timur Ivanov’s wife was vacationing in Courchevel in the company of Valery “Glory to Ukraine” Meladze.

      https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1371199


      Until now, it has not been publicly announced who is to blame for the disappearance of one and a half million sets of military uniforms, which were stored in warehouses in the early days of the Northern Military District.

      "...Moscow, October 3, 2022, 07:57 - IA Regnum. State Duma deputy from United Russia Andrei Gurulev calls for an investigation into the loss of 1,5 million sets of military uniforms... https://regnum.ru/news /3713202"

      "...“It’s a shame when our people on the front line... sometimes lack uniforms, as well as weapons. And on the other hand, people are fighting with three-season NATO uniforms, with excellent weapons, which continue to come from the West in a criminal manner every day and every hour,” said Slutsky and expressed hope that the Russian Ministry of Defense will restore order..."

      More details in PG: https://www.pnp.ru/politics/sluckiy-nazval-pozorom-otsutstvie-obmundirovaniya-u-rossiyskikh-soldat-na-ukraine.html
      1. +3
        April 24 2024 16: 20
        Quote: AA17
        Until now, it has not been publicly announced who is to blame for the disappearance of one and a half million sets of military uniforms, which were stored in warehouses in the early days of the Northern Military District.

        It is still unknown whether this form existed in reality at all. Or it existed only virtually, in the form of closing documents under a supply contract.
        Let me remind you once again about my favorite example - the gas pipeline to Priozersk. Where according to documents in 2012-2014. 125 km of the route and 4 gas distribution stations were built, but in fact 3/4 of the route was a clearing in the forest without any traces of a pipeline. But the acts were signed and the money was transferred.
      2. +1
        April 24 2024 19: 04
        . Even better is to severely and publicly punish bribe takers.

        Well, you are naive.... . Still young? wassat
  3. +13
    April 24 2024 05: 50
    Unfortunately, first you need to win, and then there are fireworks and pushing through equipment and so on, it’s one thing for the USSR and the Second World War, there was already a turning point there and they were already slowly driving the enemy out of our lands. It’s another matter now, the enemy also has such an exhibition on Khreshchatyk, I don’t know how much it helps them, but it does. I don’t see the point in making a bomb from a more or less preserved leopard of a not very new modification, especially when our breakthrough was rolling openly on a trailer along USA. Now I would pay more attention to new supplies of weapons to the enemy, and judging by the tightening of mobilization and the list of weapons, the enemy hopes to counterattack, and we need to be prepared for this. And you need to be prepared for terror within the country, and avoid large crowds of people, and not create them. Well, while it is not clear what kind of victory there might be, sometimes it happens that it seems like we won, and parades, and fireworks, and the president smiles with the ministers, and you stand looking at the result, you understand the price of the result, and you ask yourself the question, was it worth it? is it that?....
    1. 0
      April 24 2024 05: 55
      During World War II, Stalin gave orders for fireworks to celebrate the capture of various cities. hi
      1. +3
        April 24 2024 06: 29
        Putin is not Stalin completely and completely. So about the fireworks during liberation (not capture), alas... These were different people and a different civilization
        1. +2
          April 24 2024 06: 32
          Yes, Putin is not Stalin... Shoigu is not Zhukov.
          And who are the soldiers and officers of our army?
          Fireworks and trophies should be shown to their sons and daughters...and not to Putin.
          Rulers come and go...but the people remain.
          1. +11
            April 24 2024 06: 58
            Do you know what the wives, children, mothers and fathers of officers and soldiers are waiting for? A salute or a NATO tank dragged to Moscow? Yes, they are waiting for their loved ones to return home alive as soon as possible. And all this ceremonial hype has been completely devalued over the past decades..
      2. +4
        April 24 2024 08: 37
        During World War II, Stalin gave orders for fireworks to celebrate the capture of various cities.

        In the realities of today, we will have to give fireworks in honor of the capture of villages.
        The hero village of Ochertino. good
    2. +5
      April 24 2024 06: 26
      Quote from turembo
      Unfortunately, first you need to win, and then there are fireworks and pushing through equipment and so on, it’s one thing for the USSR and the Second World War, there was already a turning point there and they were already slowly driving the enemy out of our lands. It’s another matter now, the enemy also has such an exhibition on Khreshchatyk, I don’t know how much it helps them, but it does. I don’t see the point in making a bomb from a more or less preserved leopard of a not very new modification, especially when our breakthrough was rolling openly on a trailer along USA. Now I would pay more attention to new supplies of weapons to the enemy, and judging by the tightening of mobilization and the list of weapons, the enemy hopes to counterattack, and we need to be prepared for this. And you need to be prepared for terror within the country, and avoid large crowds of people, and not create them. Well, while it is not clear what kind of victory there might be, sometimes it happens that it seems like we won, and parades, and fireworks, and the president smiles with the ministers, and you stand looking at the result, you understand the price of the result, and you ask yourself the question, was it worth it? is it that?....


      All lines are absolutely correct. I support. The war is just beginning. If you compare trophies in squares, it is difficult to say who wins. Propaganda in the Russian Federation is like dessert on an empty stomach:... not bad - well, real things are better.
      1. -1
        April 24 2024 06: 29
        The LUFTWAFFE Henkel-111 trophy was displayed on a square in Moscow in 1941...
        Would you also say that they were measuring themselves against trophies back then?
        1. +1
          April 24 2024 06: 31
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          The LUFTWAFFE Henkel-111 trophy was displayed on a square in Moscow in 1941...
          Would you also say that they were measuring themselves against trophies back then?

          They put it out...what next?
          1. -3
            April 24 2024 06: 34
            Like what?
            The downed equipment of the world's invincible army lies in the central square of Moscow... isn't that enough?
            1. +2
              April 24 2024 06: 44
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              Like what?
              The downed equipment of the world's invincible army lies in the central square of Moscow... isn't that enough?

              At a time when the only sources of information were Levitan and Pravda, it might have had an effect on some. But Levitan is more honest and convincing.
              A captured Leopard is a little joy. But not more. Now everyone interested is delving into the “fog” of war on the Internet. Other times.
              1. 0
                April 24 2024 06: 52
                No.. what do you think is better than tearing your hair out and cursing the Kremlin leadership for the unsuccessful conduct of the military defense?
                This makes no sense...by denying your history, you deny your future.
                In our history there have been and will be both defeats and victories... there are no victories without defeats... we will have to go through the bitterness of failures in the Northern Military District.
                I don’t want to touch on the political topic...I’m more concerned about the soldiers and officers of our army currently fighting at the front.
                1. +4
                  April 24 2024 06: 56
                  Quote: Lech from Android.
                  I don’t want to touch on the political topic...I’m more concerned about the soldiers and officers of our army currently fighting at the front.

                  Me too.. hi
        2. +9
          April 24 2024 07: 54
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          The LUFTWAFFE Henkel-111 trophy was displayed on a square in Moscow in 1941...

          Not a Henkel, but a Junkers, and it was certainly exhibited for propaganda purposes, after the Luftwaffe raid on Moscow on July 22.07.41, 22, to show the results of Moscow’s air defense. Maybe the RF Armed Forces will also show the downed aircraft that attacked Moscow, Sevastopol, Bryansk, Belgorod and other Russian cities? The successes are modest, there is nothing to boast about yet. Moreover, the first exhibition of Wehrmacht equipment in Moscow was on June 06. 43, and timed to coincide with the beginning of the Second World War, to show the successes of the Red Army in two years of war. What successes can the Armed Forces boast of in two years of the so-called North Military District? In August 1943, the Red Army reached the Dnieper, and after two years of fighting in the Donbass, the VSR were able to liberate Novomikhailovka. In general, any analogies with the Second World War during the SVO out of place. During the times of the USSR it was impossible to dream in a nightmare that in the vastness of the Ukrainian SSR Russians with Russians they fought to death, as in the era of the XII-XVI centuries.
      2. +4
        April 24 2024 08: 18
        Propaganda in the Russian Federation often has the opposite effect. It’s so clumsy, and people will eventually find out the real state of affairs. Yes, these exhibitions need to be done, but only then will there be real results
  4. -11
    April 24 2024 05: 57
    Khikhlov still needs to lead the prisoners through Red Square wink
    1. 0
      April 24 2024 06: 30
      "Big Waltz 2.0"?, but even then they didn’t disgrace the square with this herd
    2. +2
      April 24 2024 06: 36
      Those who are going to be exchanged?
  5. +3
    April 24 2024 06: 21
    Come on, how can you irritate your “dear partners”, and what if they still accept you into their bourgeoisie?
  6. +2
    April 24 2024 06: 32
    author

    So why are we not in a hurry to show our convincing and demonstrative success?


    An indefinite military defense, with unclear goals, military operations that came to Belgorod land in the third year...apparently yes, the time has come to show our success.....
    Sergei Kozhugetovich obviously will not disappoint and the victory parade will be a sight to behold....
  7. +7
    April 24 2024 06: 34
    The Russian Ministry of Defense showed footage of another Leopard tank being towed to the rear, apparently of German production.
    The author, apparently, is tormented by doubts? Is there confidence that it is produced in other countries? In Brazil, India, China, South Africa, Kazakhstan, for example? laughing
    And there is no need to privatize the Victory of the Soviet people in the Great Patriotic War, to which the new Russia has nothing to do. Although privatization has already begun, every year on May 9 they board up the mausoleum with plywood. This year it will probably be different, they will board up the mausoleum with plywood, and on the plywood they will draw the profile of A.I. Ilyin, almost not a fascist...
    1. -1
      April 24 2024 20: 11
      " In China"
      It is possible that the Chinese made a fuss Yes Almost real Rolls-Royces were produced there; the police closed the assembly shop.
  8. +2
    April 24 2024 06: 51
    Therefore, I propose, after the end of the main part of the Victory Parade on May 9, to organize on Red Square the transport on trailers of samples of captured and damaged Western equipment that were destroyed or simply captured during the SVO.
    Yeah, kAneshna. And will this finally bury the hopes of the “elite” that it will be possible to come to an agreement again, not with Biden but with Trump, that everything will be the same again? Yes, they will cling to this chance to the last, again the topic of negotiations has begun to procrastinate. And then there’s the matter of finishing off the whole thing with the passage of prisoners; who then will lift the sanctions from them on their capital and real estate.
    1. +2
      April 24 2024 07: 20
      The topic of negotiations has begun to linger.
      Macron invited the Russian President to the celebration of the Allied landing in Normandy, such information flashed about five days ago on the Yandex news feed. And there the “mustache” will gather.
      1. +4
        April 24 2024 07: 36
        hi This is the point, they have already mentioned the “Istanbul format”, it seems to me that this will not end well.
        1. +2
          April 24 2024 07: 46
          What good will it do? They will freeze the conflict on the confrontation line, the regions annexed to Russia are not recognized by the world community, the same China, India, Brazil, South Africa, the situation will turn out like Israel, the world community will not recognize the Arab territories occupied by it, just like Russia , perhaps, they will begin to return the seized assets gradually; Switzerland, for example, lifted the arrest, with a small share. But the sanctions will remain, perhaps some packages will be lifted, where they themselves suffer. hi
          1. +1
            April 24 2024 08: 07
            Quote: parusnik
            the situation will turn out like Israel, the world community will not recognize the Arab territories occupied by it
            Is it weak to recognize Israel's Golan in exchange for recognition of Crimea? And for Jerusalem Donbass?
            1. +2
              April 24 2024 08: 09
              It’s hard to admit
              Personally, not for me, but for you personally? laughing
              1. +2
                April 24 2024 08: 13
                Trump has already recognized Jerusalem as Israel, and Biden, no matter how he twisted around, could not reverse this.
                As for me personally, I recognize for Russia the entire territory of the former Ukrainian SSR, which it wants to include in its composition. The only thing left to do is to liberate the territory from Bandera-Nazi occupation.
                1. +2
                  April 24 2024 08: 16
                  Trump has already recognized Jerusalem as Israel
                  What remains for Biden to recognize Crimea and everything else? Persuade him, together with Trump. laughing
                  1. +1
                    April 24 2024 08: 19
                    It is useless to persuade senile Joe - without amphetamines he will not understand what we are talking about, and taking amphetamines is timed to coincide with those public events that he cannot fail to attend.
                    It is also useless to persuade Trump; he decides for himself.
                    1. +1
                      April 24 2024 08: 28
                      Those. You are a US citizen, you won’t be able to do this, sad thing. smile
          2. +4
            April 24 2024 08: 30
            freeze the conflict on the confrontation line A bad question immediately arises: “Why did all this start?” Moreover, they really could have finished everything quickly, but someone started poking their nose in and what happened happened. So much effort and sacrifice... oh, again people are expendable. Two nephews there and the son of very good friends.
            1. +5
              April 24 2024 08: 34
              Why did all this start?
              Probably, the ladies wanted to see how the slaves fought. They didn’t need them anymore, there was no one to sell them to, no one would take them, so let them die in a fight. And it’s fun on the other side.
  9. -4
    April 24 2024 10: 25
    I would like to slightly change the idea of ​​the article. It's better to start easy and little by little. And we need to start with Germany, but not with the Federal Republic of Germany, but with the “Third Reich”. Build a line like this from the first “Panzerwagens” and other armored vehicles of the Wehrmacht to the “Leopard”, “Marder” and the rest of the Bundeswehr scrap. It is necessary not to dump everything en masse, but to organize “thematic weeks” for each country separately. Let the media in every country wait with fear for their “week”.
  10. -1
    April 24 2024 10: 43
    I wrote about this a year ago. It’s long overdue and overripe - we apparently don’t want to “irritate” our former Western partners, we can believe that this will cause the opposite effect and motivate them to show a greater share of principle in supplies.
    From the point of view of the interests of internal propaganda, this is a very strong move - although it’s unlikely to push them into VDNKh because of the exhibition, but for example, Poklonnaya Gora could be an option.
  11. BAI
    0
    April 24 2024 19: 26
    The lepard must be taken in company with a tiger and a panther
  12. 0
    April 25 2024 08: 30
    So why are we not in a hurry to show our convincing and demonstrative success in response?

    We, ordinary people, have already accumulated so many of these “whys”, you will be surprised. Why are there bridges? Why are strikes on the energy sector only in the form of “retribution”? Why do assaults take place exclusively head-on, without attempts at encirclement? And so on and so forth.
  13. 0
    April 29 2024 21: 33
    It is a great pity that such a large display of captured German equipment - priceless exhibits of military aircraft, tanks, armored personnel carriers, Axis vehicles, once exhibited in the park - was sadly not preserved.