The West is not ready for a war of attrition

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The West is not ready for a war of attrition


Rusi paints the apocalypse


Sometimes it is useful to look at the pages of Western specialized military publications. They are not without a propaganda touch, but they allow you to calibrate the enemy’s point of view. In truth, they are still the same analysts and forecasters - just read what firms like Rusi and Rand wrote at the beginning of the SVO and what they are talking about now. Experts predicted the fall of the Russian Army in a matter of months and very real prospects for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to reach the notorious borders of 1991.



Now the rhetoric has changed fundamentally - from “where did we miscalculate” to “Dark times await Ukraine very soon.” But if you remove the prism of propaganda, you can find some good reviews regarding the tactics and strategy of Russia and Ukraine in modern conditions. For example, the British Royal United Defense Studies Institute or Rusi, leading its history since 1811, recently I was taken aback by almost pro-Russian analytics. The series of reviews poses several problems for the Western public.

The first is that the Russian strategy in Ukraine, which initially seemed like a failure, has changed beyond recognition.

Secondly, Western countries are completely unprepared for such a turn and risk losing a hypothetical war of attrition.

In general, “war of attrition” has become a very topical term abroad. Rusi claims that the special operation in Ukraine is very similar to the work of slowly but surely exhausting the enemy.


The military-industrial complex of Europe and the United States is certainly impressive and many times superior to the Russian one, but for the required increase in the production of resources, the enemy will need many times more, simply because the equipment is more expensive and more complex.

First, let's figure out how the British see a potential peace agreement between Moscow and Kyiv. From the outside it looks like a capitulation of Ukraine with serious territorial concessions - according to various sources, Russia receives new regions in full force, as well as the Odessa and Kharkov regions.

Well, the supreme power in Kyiv passes into the hands of a person loyal to the Kremlin. The only concession is to allow Ukraine to join the EU. More precisely, not to Ukraine, but to what is left of this state. In Rusi, apparently, they do not know geography well and have forgotten about the Nikolaev region, which in this situation cannot remain near Kiev.

But fundamentally, the enemy authors did not miscalculate - the minimum task could really be to cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea, coupled with the acquisition of the LPR, DPR, Kherson, Zaporozhye and Kharkov regions in full. In this truncated version, Ukraine really will not pose a threat to Russia for several decades to come. Let’s not forget about the maximum task – complete denazification and demilitarization of enemy territory right up to the western borders.

How does the Kremlin intend to achieve its goals?

According to Rusi, a long-term armed confrontation that only Russia is capable of. Of course, it would be nice to force Ukraine to peace with a quick and decisive push, which was the goal for two years, but now we have to exhaust the enemy, step by step reducing his potential for resistance.

The first goal has already been achieved - the Ukrainian Armed Forces are not capable of conducting offensive combat operations. Zelensky admits this, mentioning the shortage of shells, but it’s not just a matter of ammunition. There is a shortage of trained personnel and a general depletion of Ukraine's military power. When it flies all over the country for more than two years, it’s hard to maintain balance.

Russia's advantages and Western deficits


Rusi, in fact, did not say anything new. Russia is characterized by gigantic strategic depth, a powerful military-industrial complex and the ability to quickly make up for losses at the front. This is fundamentally different from the war they were preparing for in the West. Any serious collision lasting more than a month is considered undesirable. Of course, we are talking about a real war, and not bombing civilians and fighting an “asymmetrical” enemy.

For example, Afghanistan, Yemen and the Gaza Strip. Here the West is ready to fight for years - fortunately, air supremacy and multiple technological superiority allow a lot. NATO strives to avoid a war of attrition with a comparable enemy at all costs, because it is expensive and time-consuming. And it must be said that they are doing the right thing - in the West they are simply not ready for such scenarios.

Rusi experts have named several characteristic signs of military conflicts of attrition.

First, the economy wins, not the art of war. Simply put, it is not particularly important at what level the personnel are trained, the main thing is material resources and weapons. Whoever makes up for losses faster and better will ultimately win.

The second sign is the positional nature of the fighting. Any breakthroughs and large-scale maneuvers take up too much energy and resources, and the final result does not live up to expectations.


The structure of Russian industry looks sad for Ukraine. Unlike the West, in Russia they know how to put mass production on the conveyor belt. weapon, characterized by comparative simplicity and unpretentiousness. The Great Patriotic War taught us this.

As Rusi rightly notes, having approximately comparable resources, the Soviet Union produced eight times more tanksthan the Third Reich. And now, according to Great Britain, Russia is able to supply about 1,5 thousand tanks and 3 thousand light armored vehicles to the front annually. For now, most of the equipment is assembled from old stocks, but even such a scale is impressive. Wanting to please Ukraine, experts from Rusi take on the role of Nostradamus.

According to the enemy’s calculations, Russia will be able to maintain consistently high rates of production of military equipment through 2024, and “by 2025, it will begin to discover that vehicles require deeper repairs, and by 2026, most of the available reserves will be exhausted.” This is, of course, if everyone sits idly by and does not take measures to expand production from scratch.

In general, the extremely absurd idea about the coming reduction in the combat power of the Russian Army in 2026 due to a shortage of weapons and shells does not stand up to criticism. Even if the domestic military-industrial complex has now entered a plateau phase, there is not a single reason for its degradation in the future. Let us recall that only enemy bombers and missiles over the Urals, Siberia and the Far East can disrupt the plans of the military industry. In all other cases, there is only growth, including qualitative growth.


It's different in the West.

Europeans and Americans have been optimizing their economy for decades and moving many low-level industries to other countries. In the event of war, supply chains inevitably break down, and with them production processes. Just look at how European industry is affected by the Houthis, who regularly shell ships in the Red Sea.

Nothing critical happened, but the final cost of some goods has already increased. Guerrillas wearing sneakers with primitive rockets forced millions of tons of cargo to be launched around Africa.

And if the war?

Where and how will European concerns replenish stocks, for example, of microchips, which are produced mainly in Taiwan?

High-tech production in the West is not designed for multiple growth in wartime. Rusi rightly point out the shortage of labor - it will take decades to train qualified workers.

There are not many people currently working in European industry, many of whom are migrants. The latter, with a lot of noise, will think seven more times before they stay. For migrant workers, France or Germany is not their homeland, but only a territory for earning money. And then NATO faces a double blow - a shortage of skilled hands coupled with a growing blue-collar crisis.

Europe and the United States are fundamentally different from the Soviet system of military command. In the West, the priority is given to the non-commissioned officer, not just a simple one, but a well-trained one. He has a lot of independence on the battlefield, which means his units are very mobile and effective.

But a long war of attrition will inevitably knock out these “smart guys.” And who will NATO troops be left with?

A typical US Army sergeant takes five to seven years to train, no less. Rusi writes that

"The idea that civilians can go through three months of training, receive sergeant's badges, and then expect them to perform as well as a seven-year veteran is a recipe for disaster."

The USSR, on the contrary, was initially preparing for a long war with NATO and formed a gigantic reserve of men who had undergone two years of military training. Even if they did not correspond to that same “seven-year veteran” of NATO, they were quite ready for war. It only takes a couple of months to brush up on your skills.

In Russia now, it seems, some reasonable compromise is being formed between the Western and Soviet models. The army has already formed a core of officers who have gained combat experience, at all levels of command. This allows, if necessary, to quickly move from the paradigm of a conflict of attrition to a completely maneuverable special operation.

And this is rather bad news for Ukraine and the collective West.
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  1. +16
    April 9 2024 04: 51
    Something calming came out one by one... Either the West is not ready for a war of attrition, or they don’t have gunpowder. What nonsense? Yes, there are reserves there for years to come. They dumped all the illiquid assets in Ukraine, but the main thing remains in warehouses. Is this an order to cook up such articles? Well, just relax... The Russian-Japanese also thought that we would crush the Japanese like fleas. What happened was Tsushima and Mukden. We must prepare for war, for a war with a strong and evil enemy, whose goal is to destroy and subjugate the entire Russian Slavic world.
    1. +2
      April 9 2024 05: 23
      quickly move from the paradigm of a conflict of attrition to a completely maneuverable special operation.
      Let's learn to fight....
    2. +9
      April 9 2024 06: 00
      Underestimating the military and demographic potential of the West can lead to disaster. And then hateful articles often began to appear. It is necessary to prepare for confrontation with the West in all seriousness.
      1. +3
        April 10 2024 06: 17
        Chips in Taiwan? And what is this problem for the West? And about the future. We must not forget about the main thing - human potential. This is a sore subject for us. And it is slowly being depleted.
        1. 0
          April 11 2024 09: 15
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          We must not forget about the main thing - human potential. This is a sore subject for us. And it is slowly being depleted.

          This is why we need to create our own coalition, attract “internationalist warriors” and build a “World System of Anti-Globalism” and promote the idea of ​​a Solidarity Society.
          And also stop playing “kingdom” and “the future is like the past.” Goal setting must change. We need a Great Goal, a Great Idea, capable of capturing the masses. And lead all Progressive Humanity. By the way, this is EXPECTED from us AGAIN.
          Then it will definitely be possible to play the long game. In other words, to exhaust the enemy.
    3. +9
      April 9 2024 07: 31
      Apparently things are not going very well in our kingdom...
      1. +7
        April 9 2024 07: 47
        It's the 3rd year of the Northern Military District, and the war of attrition has not yet begun?
    4. +5
      April 9 2024 08: 18
      The special operation has entered its third year, and so far there are no significant results. We need to find some kind of justification.
    5. -14
      April 9 2024 09: 16
      The comparison is incorrect. Russia could well have won the Russo-Japanese War, even after Tsushima and Mukden. It’s just that back then, in Russia, various kinds of Navalnys worked better. But now they weren’t given it.
      1. 0
        April 11 2024 10: 41
        Quote: TermNachTER
        Russia could well have won the Russo-Japanese War, even after Tsushima and Mukden. It’s just that back then, in Russia, various kinds of Navalnys worked better. But now they weren’t given it.

        Now the bet inside Russia is no longer on Navalny, who screwed up and didn’t deliver. The emphasis is now on “new barbarians” - Wahhabi migrants, carefully brought to the Russian Federation by many millions. Under the leadership of specially trained "mullahs" and preachers from MI6. So they should start a “big massacre” in Russian cities, when Russian men are at the front and at work. And the demonstration of capabilities in Crocus City (how sick of this foreignness!!) showed that the 6th column of saboteurs from the authorities and security forces (who were not in a hurry to the place of massacre) is capable of ensuring that our cities plunge into chaos and lawlessness.
        And decisive measures to prevent this from happening in the future. request not visible . They sing with redoubled zeal about “tolerance, forbearance and the impossibility of living without migrants.” And blacks from Central Africa will most likely be brought into deserted Russian villages angry will be.

        And if the nuclear war continued after Tsushima, we could, of course, defeat the Japanese ground army in China (Manchuria) and perhaps even in Korea, but at the same time we would certainly lose not only the whole of Sakhalin, but also Kamchatka. And Vladivostok would probably also get it from the sea. . RI no longer had a fleet. Nikola-2 could no longer build a new one capable of defeating Japan at sea, because he fell in love with everything in advance. And besides, thanks to Witte, he picked up foreign debts worth a monstrous and, in those conditions, literally unpayable amount - 11 billion rubles in gold.
        I blew out Nikola-2 REV during the preparation period for it. Blowed in all directions. He did not build a fleet on time and even failed to assemble what was already built in Arthur, the Trans-Siberian Railway (in part of the Circum-Baikal Mainline) was not completed, he did not collect a sufficient number of troops, even by sea, in Arthur and Manchuria, or military supplies for even the contingent that was in Manchuria, did not provide, instead of resorting to internal loans for the war, on the advice of the villain, Witte began to borrow money from the French Rothschilds... And even when Arthur fell, and Rozhdestvensky’s squadron hung in the Indian Ocean, instead in order to preserve it and use it in the blockade of Japan from the sea at the distant approaches, operating from Cam Ranh, and using this and the sufficient forces already accumulated in Manchuria to defeat the Japanese land army... this crowned one (censored) sent the remnants of the fleet to destruction in Tsushima. After Tsushima there were no more good solutions left. And in order not to lose all of Sakhalin and Kamchatka (or even Chukotka, who knows these Japanese, their hands are free at sea) they had to go to a shameful peace. It’s just that the ruler of the Empire turned out to be so “wise”. I screwed everything up...
        It would be good if the current ones draw at least some conclusions. Because times have come to a turning point and it will no longer be possible to reign lying on your side. Either you and all your servants will be eaten by the pigs by the jubilant victors, or you will gain the laurels of a winner.
        1. 0
          April 11 2024 12: 02
          There was no fleet, but what prevented us from calmly reaching the Tsushima Strait through Korea? Lose Kamchatka?))) I’m embarrassed to ask with what forces the Japanese would hold tens of thousands of square meters. km.?
          I'm not even talking about the climate.
          1. 0
            April 11 2024 14: 19
            Quote: TermNachTER
            There was no fleet, but what prevented us from calmly reaching the Tsushima Strait through Korea?

            what Actually, the Tsushima Strait is right between Korea and Japan.
            Or did you mean to bypass Japan from the east?
            There wasn’t much light there either, because it was farther from Cam Ranh and there simply wouldn’t have been enough coal. Especially if the battle had still taken place, at least with part of the Japanese forces. We would have to increase the speed and consumption of coal... and we would simply be left with empty coal pits.
            Quote: TermNachTER
            Lose Kamchatka?))

            Yes, such a threat was quite real.
            Quote: TermNachTER
            I’m embarrassed to ask with what forces the Japanese would hold tens of thousands of square meters. km.?

            It would be enough for them to capture Petropavlovsk and other ports and suitable bays. All supplies to Kamchatka are now only by sea or by air. Having lost its fleet, the Republic of Ingushetia would have lost Kamchatka. We had too many troops there, no coastal artillery, no conditions for defense... Would the entire garrison flee to the “Kamchatka prairies” and become partisans? Without communications and supplies?
            Japan easily and naturally took half of Sakhalin from us, which is very close to Primorye and Vladivostok. And it would have taken it all if they had not managed to conclude a shameful but timely peace. That whole war turned out to be a complete disgrace for the Republic of Ingushetia. So have no doubt, after Sakhalin they would have completely taken Kamchatka.
            If they had enough landing forces and means for landing troops in Korea, Manchuria, Kwantung), Sakhalin, provide these forces in sufficient quantities with everything necessary, and inflict several defeats on the Russian Army with these forces and take the fortress of Port Arthur.. After SUCH a demonstration of capabilities, do you really doubt that they could easily and naturally land troops in Kamchatka and take Petropavlovsk?
            If they had already taken Arthur with amphibious assault forces?
            Quote: TermNachTER
            I'm not even talking about the climate.

            Why would the climate of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky scare them? They then owned the entire Kuril ridge, and there the climate was more isolated. And Kamchatka is still not Chukotka... But they probably would have coveted Chukotka over time... If the United States had not been ahead of them in this. And Niki-2 would have just wiped himself off in the Ipatiev House before his execution. And much earlier.
            1. 0
              April 11 2024 18: 46
              1. It was possible to walk to the Tsushima Strait from Manchuria; a fleet was not needed.
              2. Control Kamchatka - with what forces? Keep only the port under control and that’s it? The people used to be unpretentious, they could feed themselves from the taiga. But what will the Japanese do in the taiga? Taiga hunters shoot well. And by the way, there was an attempt to land. Like the Crimean War, it ended in nothing.
              1. 0
                April 11 2024 21: 36
                Quote: TermNachTER
                1. It was possible to walk to the Tsushima Strait from Manchuria; a fleet was not needed.

                It would be quite possible to walk on foot. But Korea is mountains, through which it is difficult to advance and it is difficult to realize a numerical, technical (?) advantage. The Japanese at that time were very unpretentious and supplied their army, which landed in Korea, at the expense of... the mobilized local population, which carried all the military cargo through the mountains... So that the army could fight in Manchuria. Did you evaluate the demonstrated organization of logistics?
                But even if we had stormed the Korean passes, then in the area of ​​the Korean ports we would have been met by coastal and naval artillery, against which our mountain guns would have been like a pin against a mace. . . And we would have to divide Korea willy-nilly in half.
                but while we were busy in Manchuria and Korea, the Japanese, without any difficulty and both obstacles, would occupy all of Sakhalin and (yes, yes) Kamchatka. Which is just a stone's throw away in its northernmost Kuril Islands. And they just have a lot of landing craft. Petropavlovsk was not really protected, and there was no fleet at all. In addition to their own abundance, the Japanese also acquired our captured ships. So two coastal defense battleships of the 3rd squadron took part in ensuring the landing on Sakhalin. And they shelled our ports and coasts. . So we would have lost Kamchatka even easier than Sakhalin.
                Quote: TermNachTER
                2. Control Kamchatka - with what forces? Keep only the port under control and that’s it?

                To control communications with the “mainland” this would already be enough. And our partisans... well, they would have been partisans in the “Kamchatka prairies”. The Yaps would later take control of exactly as much as they wanted. I’m telling you, after Tsushima we didn’t just have a good scenario left, all the others simply brought us much more damage than we could have played on land. We could generally lose control of our coasts, because the entire initiative at sea in terms of landing troops at any convenient moment and in any chosen place belonged to Japan. . But they didn’t lay claim to Manchuria then. They then left it themselves after concluding a shameful peace.
                Quote: TermNachTER
                And by the way, there was an attempt to land. Like the Crimean War, it ended in nothing.

                You should not confuse the Anglo-French from the other side of the world with the Yaps, whose northern territories are several tens/hundreds of miles south of Kamchatka. For them it was like going for some bread. . And the “hooligans” didn’t interfere. Let me remind you once again - the Kuril Islands were Japanese then.
                In that war, everything was decided by supremacy at sea. And the Republic of Ingushetia blew the war at sea miserably.
                Such was the QUALITY OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.
                1. 0
                  April 11 2024 21: 53
                  I'm not confusing anything. The climate of Japan is very different from Kamchatka, with the exception of Hokkaido. But at that point in time, Hokkaido was a sparsely populated outback where penal prisoners were exiled. So, for the vast majority of japas, the climate of Kamchatka is very poorly suited. Supplying isolated garrisons “in the middle of nowhere” is a bit difficult for Japanese logistics, which was based on confiscations from the local population. In Kamchatka, try to take it from the locals, they might shoot you.
                  1. 0
                    April 11 2024 23: 09
                    Quote: TermNachTER
                    In Kamchatka, try to take it from the locals, they might shoot you.

                    Praise be to Ahura Mazda, they did not have time to try.
    6. 0
      April 13 2024 11: 56
      In WWII, America, after the build-up, became the actual arsenal of the allies, including the USSR in many positions before Stalingrad, and in transport - until the end of the allied alliance - remember Studebakers - the prototype of the post-war ZILs.

      And the Liberty class ships were built in three to two days. 14,000 tons, 2700+ for WWII. These are just facts colleagues.

      (And back in 57 I tried canned pineapples in a jar from the same “Dole Pineapples”….)
      ----
      Yes, it’s hard to believe now, but I have no doubt that in the face of an existential threat, America will be able to mobilize for ITS needs.

      In a non-nuclear conflict with China over Taiwan, the advantage is on the side of America, the mistress of the seas. Based on military experience, maritime traditions, strategic school and Doctrine.

      And this does not take into account the actual naval allies (for the period of victories) - Japan and Great Britain. This is a maritime mentality that China simply cannot have, and quantitative superiority, even multiple, is not a decisive factor!

      Confidence in victory based on the fact of History is on America's side!
  2. +4
    April 9 2024 05: 26
    Two years in the army under the Soviets gave 10 rounds of ammunition in two years and what’s the point of training the army and not writing reports that everything is fine if you touch it, it will be really difficult
    1. KCA
      +6
      April 9 2024 06: 10
      I was officially given three rounds of ammunition in two years, so what? In war, it’s not just about running and shooting, I’m a signalman and I knew my KShM (on a shishiga and on an BTR-60) better than a cat knows its genitals, the army is full of non-combat specialties, there’s also a modern trend - a drone operator, do they shoot a lot from Kalash guns?
      1. +1
        April 9 2024 22: 54
        Once at VO a volunteer artilleryman gave an interview. He fought on the Akatsiya self-propelled gun. During my service at LBS I never fired from my AKM 7,62.
        1. 0
          April 10 2024 13: 16
          When I served, in our unit (control battery), except for drivers and signalmen, not a single soldier did anything in his military training except carry equipment. And all special combat training boiled down to filling out training logs. And preparing for inspections. Because for the personnel there were more important things to do - either work on the territory, or outfits.
          But they shot relatively a lot by the standards of our army. 12-15 rounds once a month. And there were night shootings. .
    2. 0
      April 10 2024 17: 59
      with the advice they gave 10 rounds of ammunition in two years

      Everyone's service was different. As for the SA, I served in the operational-tactical missile division in the launch battery (1970-72) and fired 15 rounds from the AKM twice a year. We were entitled to that much, since we are not motorized riflemen, or paratroopers, or tank crews... How much did the construction battalion fire? I suspect not enough. Nevertheless, some guys from the construction battalion came with money, construction skills and were quite satisfied with the service.
    3. 0
      April 11 2024 22: 02
      In what years and what troops did you serve? I served in the Soviet Army - cartridges were burned with zinc at the firing range.
  3. -6
    April 9 2024 05: 45
    Each country has its own deficit. And if it doesn’t exist, it is supplemented by the ruling classes. Which during the war only look after their own interests. For example, Great Britain. It did not fight a war on its territory. But there were food cards until 1949. Some made ends meet ends, others did not have enough for diamonds. And these were not looters, but respected people in the country. What if this country had been directly affected by the war? There is nothing worse when, during a war, some lead the same comfortable life, while others have to deal with difficulties to the fullest.
  4. +6
    April 9 2024 07: 22
    Caps are in the air again. The Western economy is roughly 28 times more powerful than the Russian one. If desired, they will increase without problems. We like to talk about how we increased the production of weapons during the Second World War, but we don’t really like to remember how, for example, the United States did it. Just for fun, google it, there are over a hundred aircraft carriers there.

    They are held back only by nuclear weapons, and also by the desire to weaken us and profit from the conflict. Rheinmetall shares are at an all-time high without even getting started. Yes
    1. -7
      April 9 2024 09: 18
      Yeah, we've already heard that))) have you seen Germany's GDP? Have you seen Apple's capitalization? Roughly 28 times))) and if not roughly, but accurately and with numbers taken not out of thin air, but specific?
      1. +1
        April 9 2024 09: 38
        . Yeah, we've already heard that))) have you seen Germany's GDP? Have you seen Apple's capitalization? Roughly 28 times))) and if not roughly, but accurately and with numbers taken not out of thin air, but specific?

        Nobody can tell you for sure.
        But yes, Apple alone is 3 trillion. Russia's GDP is 5,5 for comparison. wink
        1. +1
          April 9 2024 10: 10
          And how much of the real production sector is there and how many numbers are in the computer that don’t affect anything?
          1. +2
            April 9 2024 10: 24
            . And how much of the real production sector is there and how many numbers are in the computer that don’t affect anything?

            Well, once we see at least a push-button completely domestic mobile phone, then we’ll talk about numbers.
            1. -2
              April 9 2024 10: 28
              Will you use a push-button telephone to shoot down planes or burn tanks?)))
              1. +6
                April 9 2024 10: 40
                . Will you use a push-button telephone to shoot down planes or burn tanks?)))

                Will you control the drone using cords? Take away the Chinese aid and we'll go back to the 60s. This is about the real sector.
                1. 0
                  April 9 2024 12: 22
                  I don't see any connection between the mobile phone and the drone. I’ve been hearing this song about the backward USSR (Russia) all my adult life, about 40 years old. As for removing Chinese help, let’s remove help from NATO to Banderland. How long will they last? Nowadays no one fights alone, everyone depends on someone or something.
                  1. +3
                    April 9 2024 12: 58
                    . I don't see any connection between the mobile phone and the drone. I’ve been hearing this song about the backward USSR (Russia) all my adult life, about 40 years old. As for removing Chinese help, let’s remove help from NATO to Banderland. How long will they last? Nowadays no one fights alone, everyone depends on someone or something.

                    Both here and there are electronics and optics. Which we don't have.
                    The USSR and the Russian Federation are 2 different countries. There is nothing to compare.
                    Initially, we are talking about whether we will survive against NATO or not. Our President says that fighting NATO is “simply nonsense.” In the sense of comparing economies.
                    I agree with him. bully
                    1. -5
                      April 9 2024 13: 30
                      What optics or electronics does Ukraine produce? The USA, England, France, etc. - themselves produce the entire range of optics and electronics from which weapons are made? No, even in the F-35 mattress they found Chinese parts. The iPhones so beloved by liberals are assembled in China, from Chinese components, and no one is hysterical.
        2. -2
          April 9 2024 12: 58
          .But yes, Apple alone is 3 trillion. Russia's GDP is 5,5 for comparison. wink
          Frozen Russian assets 300 billion. Westerners are torn to the fascist cross because of 10% of Apple's cap? Marvelous. The capitalization of Bitcoin is 1,4 rubles, ether is 440 billion. And these people can’t find 60 scruffy yards for Ukraine? Or maybe the numbers are just exaggerated?
          1. +2
            April 9 2024 13: 24
            . Frozen Russian assets 300 billion. Westerners are torn to the fascist cross because of 10% of Apple's cap? Marvelous. The capitalization of Bitcoin is 1,4 rubles, ether is 440 billion. And these people can’t find 60 scruffy yards for Ukraine? Or maybe the numbers are just exaggerated?

            Yes, it doesn’t tear them apart at all. It’s torn between us here whether they’ll squeeze it out or not.
            Their media contains a calm business discussion, mainly assessing the risk of business reputation.
            Of course they will find their own, but why bother if they can? wink
            1. 0
              April 10 2024 09: 05
              I'm wondering, 300 lard. frozen Russian money - how is that? Ten KAMAZ trucks with hundred dollar bills or 100 KAMAZ trucks with gold bars? Or, again, numbers on a computer that in themselves are worth nothing? What exactly is frozen and how?
        3. 0
          April 9 2024 22: 59
          Capitalization and GDP are not at all comparable indicators. GDP roughly is the cost of output. And capitalization is the price of the company’s shares on the stock exchange.
          1. +1
            April 10 2024 09: 08
            Once again, we return to our sheep))) both capitalization and GDP are very relative figures that are very distantly related to our reality. The arrogant Saxons came up with a very cool idea - to trade paper on the stock exchange, which costs practically nothing, and in return receive quite real ones - energy resources, raw materials, food, which are exactly what cost real money.
            1. +1
              April 10 2024 12: 21
              I completely agree. After all, GDP includes everything: the production of an airplane, the baking of a hamburger, and the cost of my haircut at the hairdresser. And the Ukrainians thought of including in the GDP the transfers of citizens from abroad. So, the GDP indicator often does not reflect what is actually happening in the economy.
  5. +7
    April 9 2024 07: 26
    There are not many people currently working in European industry, many of whom are migrants.
    But in Russia, the problem of migrants does not exist? Or is this no longer a problem?
  6. +8
    April 9 2024 08: 07
    The West will not withstand a war of attrition, but the West is not going to fight, and the Western economy will withstand the supply of weapons for at least a hundred years.

    So far, everything is going well for them, and the longer it goes, the better it is, which I would not say about us or about Ukraine.

    The longer the confrontation goes on, the worse off we will be when peace comes.
    1. +1
      April 9 2024 12: 30
      Quote: S.Z.
      The West cannot withstand a war of attrition

      I also don’t understand why the author is projecting the real situation on the LBS onto a hypothetical conflict with NATO? We may be counting on a war of attrition, but the “West” is unlikely to be interested in this. And to impose “your will” on the enemy while on the defensive is not at all easy.
      Quote: S.Z.
      but the West is not going to fight,

      Agree. Why do they need this? Whatever one may say, the stranglehold of sanctions is slowly but surely tightening. Calmly, in Chinese, “they will smoke on the shore, waiting for the floating corpses.” It is completely imperceptible that they are in a hurry to get somewhere.
      1. -2
        April 10 2024 09: 13
        Do you get real information from the West, and not from Internet trash heaps, where they write what the owner orders? I think there is no need to explain who is the master of the world media. So, the standard of living in the West has seriously fallen and continues to fall, and there are no prospects for improvement, and people absolutely do not like this. In gay Europe, in June, there are elections to the gay parliament and anything can happen in these elections. And even without that, the geyropu is not shaking like a child.
  7. +3
    April 9 2024 08: 26
    so far, it looks like a positional deadlock controlled by the West... a little back and forth does not change the essence globally...
    by squeezing out Ukrainian human resources, you can crawl away like this for a long time, and if they end the performance with “oh, we won’t give it - no, we have to give it” - then you can sit like this in a clinch for years...
  8. -6
    April 9 2024 08: 26
    And now, according to Great Britain, Russia is able to supply about 1,5 thousand tanks and 3 thousand light armored vehicles to the front annually. For now, most of the equipment is assembled from old stocks, but even such a scale is impressive.
    Time with the British played a cruel joke. The power of the USSR military-industrial complex, even 30 years after its deliberate destruction, continues to confront NATO.
    For this, the British should thank themselves, too, because... they also had a hand in this:
    Confirmation of the direct participation of the West in dragging the USSR into a disastrous arms race can be seen in M. Thatcher’s speech in Houston (Texas) at a meeting of the American Petroleum Institute (API) in November 1991.
    “The Soviet Union is a country that posed a serious threat to the Western world.

    I'm not talking about a military threat. She basically didn't exist. Our countries are quite well armed, including with nuclear weapons. I mean the economic threat.

    Thanks to planned policies and a unique combination of moral and material incentives, the Soviet Union managed to achieve high economic indicators. The percentage of growth in the gross national product was approximately twice as high as in our countries. If we take into account the enormous natural resources of the USSR, then with rational management of the economy, the Soviet Union had very real opportunities to oust us from world markets.

    Therefore, we have always taken actions aimed at weakening the economy of the Soviet Union and creating internal difficulties for it. The main thing was the imposition of an arms race. We knew that the Soviet government adhered to the doctrine of equality of arms between the USSR and its NATO opponents. As a result of this, the USSR spent about 15% of its budget on armaments, while our countries spent about 5%. Of course, this had a negative impact on the economy of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union had to save on investments in the production of so-called consumer goods. We hoped to cause mass discontent among the population in the USSR. One of our tricks was supposedly to “leak” information about the amount of weapons we have much more than in reality, in order to provoke additional investments by the USSR in this economically unprofitable area.
    hi
  9. 0
    April 9 2024 08: 27
    The question is not posed correctly at all. The West is not homogeneous and the main beneficiary will easily exchange the EU for war. It is the war between the Russians and Europe that the United States is seeking.
    That's the end goal
  10. 0
    April 9 2024 09: 01
    Not a good article... The problems of the West are understandable and predictable even for a high school student. The problem that has not been addressed is that in the West “they are not all fools”... They learn quite quickly. This means they need to regularly introduce new problems to “overheat”!
  11. 0
    April 9 2024 09: 19
    The West is not ready for a war of attrition

    I wonder, according to the author, what is happening now??? and who constantly requests negotiations??? At the same time, it is possible that our puppets will happily run to implement the decisions of the “peace conference on Ukraine in Switzerland”...
  12. +4
    April 9 2024 12: 03
    Recently there was a series of articles about the fact that Europe is about to be attacked. Now there are articles saying that Europe cannot fight - there is nothing with which to fight. So who to believe?
  13. 0
    April 10 2024 08: 56
    With the supply of equipment, they can still hold out for quite some time. I remember earlier conversations that as soon as the Soviet equipment from the former Warsaw Pact countries runs out, everything will collapse, and the West will not give its equipment, but as we see, the West began to supply its equipment.
    1. 0
      April 10 2024 09: 18
      Western technology (new) is expensive and requires competent specialists. What is now supplied, with rare exceptions, such as French and German self-propelled guns, is junk, from storage bases, which is practically worthless, you don’t mind it - it still rusts to no avail. But when it comes to a new one, they will howl, because the new “Leo” has already exceeded 10 euros. And this is not the limit, prices for energy resources and raw materials are rising, which means it will be even more expensive.
  14. +1
    April 10 2024 13: 30
    The West can prepare for a war of attrition just as we were able to mobilize industrial capacity. Don’t think that there are loafers and mediocrities sitting there, due to the fact that the inertia of the West is higher than ours, it will sway longer, but then it will have an advantage in mass and problems with braking as such.
    Our task is to complete Ukrainian affairs before the moment when they begin to spin the drum exponentially there in foreign countries. That is, in about a year or a year and a half maximum.
    You can point to the fact that the main enemy of the United States is China as much as you like - the trend is important here. The trend is that the world is warming up and IN ANY case, in the period of 1-5 years, something, somewhere will explode. So they will increase production there in any case, this is simply a winning strategy in the complex now.

    We shouldn't engage in denial - it's a bad, bad habit.
    1. 0
      April 11 2024 22: 09
      The economy is failing, there are no people of the caliber of Churchill or Clemenceau, and even little people - God forgive me. My friends daughter lives in France. Dating a Tunisian. To my question: “Masha, why the hell do you need this smoked one, why can’t you find a normal Frenchman (white)? She answered - there are no normal Frenchmen, they are all alternatively gifted or childish. I couldn’t find one. France is rapidly degrading. However, like all gayropas generally.
      1. 0
        April 11 2024 22: 17
        There is an expression: “While the fat man dries, the thin man dies.” Are we fat in this scenario? Don't we already have stupid politicians? Problems in the economy? Problems with migrants? Is our society already bursting with health?
        The reason why European politicians have sunk into gray functionaries is that there management competencies are spread out in the management horizontal, each element of which is more or less responsible for its own zone and is competent in it. A fiery leader who, like Figaro, rushes here and there - this is the picture of a crisis manager whose half of the hut is on fire, and the other half is flooded. At the moment, it cannot be said that the EU economy is such a mess.
  15. 0
    April 12 2024 20: 05
    Naturally, the West is not ready. They are used to living like people. The Russian Federation is always ready for a war of attrition, people will happily starve and die for the lies of Putin and Medvedev...and there are more than 100 million of them!!!!