The Ukrainian side expresses concerns about the possible use by Russia of FAB-3000 and FAB-9000

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The Ukrainian side expresses concerns about the possible use by Russia of FAB-3000 and FAB-9000

The Ukrainian side has recently intensified discussion on various broadcasts of a topic related to the possible increase in the number of uses of “aviation bombs of special power." We are talking mainly about FAB-3000 aerial bombs. The enemy also has concerns about the possible use of the Russian Aerospace Forces “Tsar Bomb” - FAB-9000.

At the same time, opinions in the Ukrainian expert and near-expert environment are divided: some believe that Russian aviation does not have carriers that are capable of effectively using not only the FAB-9000, but also the FAB-3000. Others do not see any particular problems in the use of such bombs, recalling that the Tu-95 was designed so that it could carry a 9-ton free-fall bomb on board, including a nuclear one.



However, both are confident that the Russian Aerospace Forces “will not dare to use” the FAB-3000 without UMPB (universal combat planning modules), since when using a conventional (free-falling) version of a large-caliber bomb, the aircraft (carrier) will have to enter the air defense zone Ukraine.

But at the same time, there is a discussion about whether the Ukrainian Armed Forces still have a sufficient number of anti-aircraft missile systems capable of hitting the same Tu-95 over the front line? This issue is also relevant due to the fact that over the past month, it was near the front line that the troops of the Kyiv regime lost several launchers of Patriot air defense systems supplied by the Americans, including on the march.

If aircraft like the Tu-95 of the Russian Aerospace Forces get the opportunity to drop FAB-3000 over the front line, then, for obvious reasons, no “Syrsky line” will save the Kiev regime from a new loss of control of the territories. If FAB-3000 with UMPB also appears in the arsenal of the Russian Aerospace Forces, this will only increase the chances of inflicting a large-scale defeat on the enemy along the line of combat contact.

Well, FAB-9000 is for “fat purposes”.
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  1. +45
    29 March 2024 20: 39
    You get used to FAB 500, you get used to FAB 1500 and get used to FAB 3000 laughing
    1. +18
      29 March 2024 20: 43
      You get used to FAB 500, you get used to FAB 1500 and get used to FAB 3000

      There will be a squirrel for you, there will also be a whistle... Well, they actually persuaded them to periodically send them by air FABs across the entire range... We are not greedy...
      1. +16
        29 March 2024 20: 56
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        There will be a squirrel for you, and there will be a whistle...

        And for “peace of mind” - FAB-9000.
        1. -14
          29 March 2024 21: 32
          Quote: carpenter
          And for “peace of mind” - FAB-9000.

          FABs with UMPC are very good, but why has our aviation not yet suppressed the enemy’s air defense. The USA has anti-location missiles, why don’t we have them?, or rather, they only have them on paper. Aviation must be able to suppress air defenses. and it’s a shame that in 2 years ours hasn’t learned this. Although I hope I'm wrong. And they chose a different path, not through airplanes, but through satellites. But this is a case where I just hope so.
          1. +3
            29 March 2024 21: 43
            Quote from: topol717
            The USA has anti-location missiles, why don't we?

            I remember something happened back in Vietnam, but that was a long time ago.
          2. +1
            29 March 2024 21: 47
            but why hasn’t our aviation suppressed the enemy’s air defenses yet? The USA has anti-location missiles, why don't we?

            So the purpose of air defense is to keep aviation at a distance, and in addition to these complexes, in addition to the “Patriots” that everyone knows, they have installed all sorts of different things. Yes, and we have anti-location missiles, but in order to use them, we again need to enter the air defense coverage area to detect radiation from radars.
          3. +6
            29 March 2024 21: 57
            Quote from: topol717
            The USA has anti-location missiles, why don’t we have them?, or rather, they only have them on paper. Aviation must be able to suppress air defenses.

            Because air defense systems work with external target designation, but there is no will to shoot down AWACS missiles.
            1. +2
              29 March 2024 22: 19
              Quote: man in the street
              Because air defense systems work with external target designation, but there is no will to shoot down AWACS missiles.
              What kind of avaxes can there be in the Belgorod region? And in Donetsk? Have you seen the distance from LBS there to Poland or Romania?
          4. +3
            29 March 2024 22: 01
            Don’t you know how air defense systems are hidden? Only a few radars work and only in emergency cases the main ones are turned on, and in a very emergency the remaining ones, but even with this option there are always reserves left in case the main ones are destroyed! This is how I see the situation with the impossibility of destruction
            1. -11
              29 March 2024 22: 17
              Quote: Argon
              Don’t you know how air defense systems are hidden? Only a few radars work and only in emergency cases the main ones are turned on, and in a very emergency case the remaining ones, but even with this option there are always reserves left in case the main ones are destroyed
              2 years have passed. I don’t know how many planes were lost, but the air defense was never suppressed. 25 years ago, NATO very quickly suppressed the air defense of Yugoslavia, but we could not. And it’s a shame that we still can’t. I am glad that the Patriots are being sent to Kyiv, but most likely there will be satellite reconnaissance and ballistic missiles.
              1. +2
                29 March 2024 22: 23
                I wanted to write sending patriots with crews to Bandera
              2. +3
                30 March 2024 00: 06
                Quote from: topol717
                25 years ago, NATO very quickly suppressed the air defense of Yugoslavia

                why so far? over there the “coalition” is crushing the Houthi air defenses, analyze it there
              3. +1
                30 March 2024 20: 01
                Have you forgotten that the Yugoslav air defenses were Yugoslav air defenses?
                Now think about what Ukrainian air defense is hi
        2. -1
          30 March 2024 17: 45
          You fucking idiots! they don’t know about ODAB-9000...and this is much worse than FAB-9000
    2. +1
      29 March 2024 20: 51
      What do you think about RDS???
    3. +4
      29 March 2024 20: 53
      Quote: Black
      You get used to FAB 500, you get used to FAB 1500 and FAB 3000

      But they’re not used to it, so it turns out they’re complaining. And with the further destruction of their air defense, they’ll complain even louder.
    4. +2
      29 March 2024 21: 52
      Quote: Black
      You get used to FAB 500, you get used to FAB 1500 and get used to FAB 3000

      If you get hit in the eye: You will involuntarily scream. They'll hit you once, they'll hit you twice, and then get used to it
    5. +1
      29 March 2024 22: 03
      Quote: Black
      and get used to FAB 3000 laughing

      In the 404th epidemic, we have to treat lol
      Memento mori - instantly at sea laughing
  2. +11
    29 March 2024 20: 41
    Russia's use of FAB-3000 and FAB-9000

    They are life-giving and immediately pierce brains with shell shock at 300 meters or more
    Our work is like this, if only our native country could live.. And there are no other worries..!
    The time has come to conduct this conversation... They didn’t understand any other way and laughed and mocked Well, well
    1. -17
      29 March 2024 21: 49
      Until the enemy's air defense is 100% suppressed, these terrible products are a source of pride, but nothing more. And no UMPC will help here!
      1. 0
        29 March 2024 22: 32
        Quote: Good evil
        Until the enemy's air defense is 100% suppressed, these terrible products are a source of pride, but nothing more. And no UMPC will help here!

        Well, let's see how it will be.. The geraniums are already doing round dances in territory 404.. Even the missiles started circling from the side of the Poles to approach the targets.. This is me so VK information
      2. -5
        29 March 2024 23: 05
        Do you seriously think that the minister was brought to the plant and shown the superbombs that had been released so that he could be proud of this fact? Of course, most likely, there is no UMPC for 5 or 9 thousand people yet. But for 3 thousand people, I think they have already developed and are testing.
        1. 0
          30 March 2024 16: 18
          Quote: Andrey Gladkikh
          Of course, most likely, there is no UMPC for 5 or 9 thousand people yet. But for 3 thousand people, I think they have already developed and are testing.
          That's what we're talking about! And there is no talk about 3000 here.
      3. +1
        29 March 2024 23: 41
        Until the enemy's air defense is 100% suppressed, these terrible products are a source of pride, but nothing more.

        Have you heard the fairy tale about the Serpent Gorynych? There the hero chops off his heads, and they grow back new ones. It’s the same with the Kyiv air defense - as much as we destroy, the same number will be delivered to them from overseas. Let it be for now.
  3. -14
    29 March 2024 20: 42
    In the absence of the SS-20, we have to contrive with weapons from ancient times.

    For 30 years, no one thought about it; other people's heads were occupied. But that’s why management exists, to plan everything in advance.
    1. -19
      29 March 2024 20: 43
      well, they foresaw what they needed
  4. +10
    29 March 2024 20: 46
    If you have mastered FAB-3000, then you have an understanding of how to use them
    1. -2
      29 March 2024 21: 50
      If you have mastered FAB-3000, then you have an understanding of how to use them

      Well, probably otherwise it wasn’t worth the trouble. We are waiting for a video with footage of application.
  5. +9
    29 March 2024 20: 48
    9000 is this instead of lace panties? This is a serious argument. "The living will suppress the dead."
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 22: 34
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      9000 is this instead of lace panties? This is a serious argument. "The living will suppress the dead."

      If 1500 have done this, then these Mama save me will begin hi
    2. -2
      29 March 2024 22: 58
      Maybe the owners of lace panties will envy the fashion of family panties?
  6. +12
    29 March 2024 20: 53
    . If aircraft like Tu-95 of the Russian Aerospace Forces get the opportunity to drop FAB-3000 over the front line, then

    No one in their right mind would send strategists to bomb the front end with free-falling cast iron while there is even a suspicion of the presence of an air defense system. As soon as the wings are attached, then the multi-ton royal gift will arrive
    1. +6
      29 March 2024 21: 22
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      . If aircraft like Tu-95 of the Russian Aerospace Forces get the opportunity to drop FAB-3000 over the front line, then

      No one in their right mind would send strategists to bomb the front end with free-falling cast iron. How to attach wings, then a multi-ton royal gift will fly

      The way it is. However, if the production of such bombs is officially announced, then it is logical to assume the parallel development of UMPC for them. Otherwise, why are they needed then? The question is how big this UMPC will be. The larger the size, the easier it is to detect and hit the target. It seems that this UMPC will be installed on a bomb complete with a fairly powerful jet engine, then the size of the wing can be reduced. These are my personal armchair speculations, not a fact. hi
      1. +5
        29 March 2024 21: 34
        This does not mean an aircraft-type engine, but the simplest ramjet booster version.
      2. 0
        29 March 2024 21: 43
        Quote: Montezuma
        The larger the size, the easier it is to detect and hit the target.

        I suspect there’s about 10 centimeters of cast iron there, or even more, you can’t break through it, but it’s on top, covered by the body. The wings will be cut, but with such wings they fly. Well, on the other hand, if someone starts shining the radar, then he will become visible.
      3. -1
        29 March 2024 21: 55
        The larger the size, the easier it is to detect and hit the target. It looks like this UMPC will be installed on a bomb complete with a fairly powerful jet engine

        The whole joke is that it is problematic for UMPC radars to detect. Well, with a jet engine it will already be a rocket.
        1. 0
          29 March 2024 22: 30
          What to hit? The warhead of a missile defense system, as a rule, contains a bunch of small destructive elements. The aluminum airframe of an aircraft is stitched quite well, but will a steel body of a bomb, especially one like this, be pierced? The UMPC will probably be able to damage (if the missile warhead explodes from above or from the side), then the bomb will fall with a large deviation from the target and will explode anyway.
      4. 0
        29 March 2024 22: 07
        It seems that this UMPC will be installed on a bomb complete with a fairly powerful jet engine, then the size of the wing can be reduced. These are my personal armchair speculations, not a fact. hi
        I thought the same thing too. For 9000kg wings you need powerful ones and they won’t have much streamlining. Hence the need for an engine. Such bonbs should fall away from the forehead, so that we don’t get it. The fragments from it scatter far and the wave is not small.
  7. +1
    29 March 2024 20: 55
    Well, FAB-9000 is for “fat purposes”.

    For Bankovaya Street, you need three of these.
  8. +8
    29 March 2024 20: 56
    Apparently, there is a new principle on the site - not one day without another article about FAB-3000?
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 21: 40
      Quote: DenVB
      Apparently, there is a new principle on the site - not one day without another article about FAB-3000?

      Well, I’m not arguing, but why are FAB-3000s so bad?
  9. -3
    29 March 2024 20: 56
    Why are they silent about the TU-160? what
    1. +1
      29 March 2024 21: 09
      The FAB-3000 has a hull diameter of 820mm, which means that, in principle, it can somehow be attached to the Su-34, which has a maximum combat load weight of 8 kg.
      1. -1
        29 March 2024 21: 12
        Sorry, I didn’t understand the connection between the TU-160 and the SU-34 what
        1. +1
          29 March 2024 21: 20
          It's simple - there is no connection lol



          Comment text blah blah blah
          1. +2
            29 March 2024 21: 34
            Both fly - but do not flap their wings. Wow drinks
        2. +1
          29 March 2024 21: 45
          Direct connection. Why use TU 160 if you can use SU 34?)))
      2. Eug
        0
        29 March 2024 21: 40
        There the entire KSS needs to be redone - no more than 1500 kg can be suspended on one unit. It used to be like this. And on the Tu-22X you can hang three X-22s - 6500 kg each.
    2. 0
      29 March 2024 22: 36
      Do you propose turning ultra-expensive custom strategic bombers into front-line bombers? To drop a bomb, even with a UMPC, you need to approach the LBS with the risk of being shot down.
  10. +3
    29 March 2024 21: 14
    For FAB-3000 and higher, you need a UMPC with an engine, so as not to risk bombers.
  11. 0
    29 March 2024 21: 15
    Fab 3000. Well, the “dagger” weighs about the same; you can bomb it from the stratosphere with Mig 31s.
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 21: 51
      For the first time I agree with you. There is an assumption that there is at least one target on the battle line that deserves to risk dropping 3000 kg. I won’t voice it, I’d prefer to wait.
      1. 0
        30 March 2024 07: 44
        Well, not the first. We already agreed on something. Which speaks volumes about objectivity.
        And in this case, alas. It was sarcasm. But for some reason the emoticons did not load.
    2. +1
      29 March 2024 22: 22
      The issue is not the weight, but the load on the suspension point. The dagger is 2 times longer, which means there are several suspension points, making it easier to hold. But it can be strengthened, just not on the Mig31 (flight is very expensive, the engines wear out a lot) but on the Su34.
  12. +2
    29 March 2024 21: 26
    If the three-tonner flinches, it flinches; the minks of the banderlogs will probably crumble within a kilometer radius. winked
  13. -2
    29 March 2024 21: 27
    Does it matter to them whether it arrives - 5 hundred square meters or 3 tonka?
    1. 0
      29 March 2024 21: 37
      There is... the falling speed is higher (the square of the speed) and the mass is 3 times higher - i.e. kinetics are 5-8 times higher... go deep 3-5 meters and there you go... profit! good
      Quote: Bone1
      Does it matter to them whether it arrives - 5 hundred square meters or 3 tonka?
      1. -2
        29 March 2024 22: 02
        Do you think that the heavier the landmine, the faster it falls and gets deeper into the ground? - funny laughing
        1. +2
          29 March 2024 22: 18
          Well, I see E(k) = m*v^2/2, and I didn’t take I = m*v at school. Well, yes, they don’t pass this on the Unified State Exam. hi Formulas for calculating the ballistic coefficient, the dependence of air drag on it, the effects of derivation, magnus and other things - I think it’s not worth laying out such beads. feel
          1. 0
            29 March 2024 22: 28
            Derivation for a bomb is funny - it’s strange that they didn’t talk about nutation, but about the ballistic nut for a bomb and air resistance, I’d like to share - I like to read nonsense
            1. 0
              29 March 2024 22: 40
              Relax, old lady. I'm not an artilleryman, much less a pilot... rifleman drinks hi
              1. -2
                29 March 2024 23: 15
                Like, having a brain isn't necessary? tongue
                1. 0
                  30 March 2024 00: 14
                  Do you want to engage in shooting? Welcome... Well, gentlemen, what can I offer... SVU, SVD (svdm - sorry, didn’t check). VSS, VAL, KSVK. Well, I don’t think you’ll be interested in Makarov pistols lol
                  1. 0
                    30 March 2024 10: 43
                    With you? - but you won’t answer the most basic question
                    1. -2
                      30 March 2024 11: 24
                      Well, since no specific question was asked. I won't ask. I have one standard question for verification and it can only be answered by a person who has worked with this weapon.
                2. 0
                  30 March 2024 17: 18
                  Like, having a brain isn't necessary?

                  These types DO NOT NEED the presence of a brain, knowledge at the level of the 6th grade of high school, just common sense to write comments and think about the Unified State Exam at all.
                  For what? I copied the formula from the wiki and without understanding a single part of it or the general meaning, they consider themselves the navel of the earth.
      2. 0
        30 March 2024 17: 15
        falling speed is higher (square of speed)

        Five hundred years ago (FIVE HUNDRED CARL!!!) the same Galileo Galilei from that same Leaning Tower of Pisa dropped a cannonball and a bullet (then they were just balls “shooting specialist”). And lo and behold, they fell at the same time. Since then, even schoolchildren know that the speed of free fall does not depend on mass. But these five hundred years have passed you by.
        And do you write anything else about the Unified State Exam? Yes, you wouldn’t even graduate from a parochial school in the Republic of Ingushetia. Spanish shame.
        1. 0
          30 March 2024 18: 00
          In general, speed does not depend on mass in a vacuum - was Galileo with a tower there?
        2. 0
          30 March 2024 18: 41
          well, yes, our bomb is like a spherical horse in a vacuum? winked Why doesn’t it still strangely fall freely to the core of the earth? Well, yes, I’m stupid - the detonator goes off and she doesn’t have time! laughing
        3. 0
          30 March 2024 20: 52
          Not speed, but acceleration of free fall.
    2. 0
      29 March 2024 21: 42
      Quote: Bone1
      Does it matter to them whether it arrives - 5 hundred square meters or 3 tonka?

      I didn’t have to see guys who would say LBS.
    3. +1
      29 March 2024 21: 51
      If the goal is very persistent, then there is a difference.
    4. -2
      29 March 2024 22: 00
      Does it matter to them whether it arrives - 5 hundred square meters or 3 tonka?

      Are you joking ? The difference is 6 times and the striking and psychological effect is still the same.
      1. -2
        29 March 2024 23: 58
        Can you tell me about the difference in the damaging effect? ​​- I’m not asking about the psychological one - talk to a psychiatrist about that
      2. +2
        30 March 2024 02: 43
        Heavy high-explosive bombs were used quite intensively in the Afghan war. Thus, in just three months of 1988, Tu-16 bombers dropped 289 FAB-9000M-54 bombs. However, the real effect of using heavy high-explosive bombs was small. The radius of lethal damage from the FAB-3000 shock wave did not exceed 39 m, and for the FAB-9000, respectively, 57 m. The enemy received incapacitating concussions with bleeding from the nose and ears, respectively, within a radius of up to 158 and 225 m. They showed more success with action in the mountains thick-walled FAB-1500-2600TS.
  14. +2
    29 March 2024 21: 28
    Provoking the bear to get angry was a bad idea.
  15. +4
    29 March 2024 21: 33
    This is not without reason (c) The fact that their air defense is cracking is a fact and therefore they would not revive the 3-liter tank... there, even if they come up with an umpk... a maximum of 50-60 km can be stretched. Although in the current situation, yes... quite good figures. It's just a blank because it doesn't shine good
  16. +2
    29 March 2024 21: 53
    It would be better to deal with new bombs. Large fragmentation air blasts, incendiary, penetrating. So that there is one for each type of goal. Are we destroying the Beskydy tunnel, the bridge across the Dnieper, or a huge factory? We reset the conditional BETAB-3000, there is a pure earthquake and objects collapse on their own. Are there any boys in the village? We detonate a ton of balls at a height of a couple of hundred meters in the direction of those who are unwary. Are the boys holed up in the forest belt? So here they are with three tons of napalm on the wings of love. Similarly, a three-ton ODAB in the center of Ugledar will create a sensation. Why are there special small bombs, but large ones are all universal fabs?
  17. 0
    29 March 2024 22: 16
    And without the UMPB it won’t be used because you won’t get where you need it, it’s a waste. The FAB 3000 will handle the Tu22 quite well, and perhaps after reworking the Su34.
  18. 0
    29 March 2024 22: 17
    "...The Russian Aerospace Forces “will not dare to use”...since when using a conventional (free-falling) version of a large-caliber bomb, the aircraft (carrier) will have to enter the affected area of ​​the Ukrainian air defense..." (c) Is it in vain, what a day Is the air defense of the Ukrainian Reich blowing snow? Look, there will soon be one zone left, without “defeat”. I don’t know what about FAB-9000, but you and your “guests” from the West will be treated to FAB-3000, don’t go to a fortune teller. sad
  19. -2
    29 March 2024 22: 30
    Nonsense! Full. Fab-3000 can only be thrown with the Tu-22M3 module. And it flies poorly, 60-70 km, no more, and the carrier is at risk. Fab-9000 does not fly anywhere at all, only free fall. The carrier gets lost 99%.
    Stop trolling this. The last bomb that this 1500 flies, especially since it is carried by tactical aircraft. Fab-3000 is a rare special operations weapon, there is nothing else at all. Fab-1500 with umpk - this must be done!!! soldier
    1. +1
      30 March 2024 00: 08
      Quote: Glagol1
      Fab-9000 does not fly anywhere at all, only free fall.

      Why won't it fly? Is she from the 50s? Find the technology of that time, attach wings from a MiG-15 to it and it will fly 80 kilometers, and if you also add some kind of engine like the one on the V-1, then it will fly 150 kilometers. And if the wings are from the Su-7, then it will fly to the Polish border. But the bomber will have to stretch out somehow, of course, in order to fit it somewhere underneath it
      1. -2
        30 March 2024 03: 14
        You only write unscientific fiction.
        1. 0
          30 March 2024 16: 29
          Are there any more scientific objections?
  20. -2
    29 March 2024 22: 53
    Well, it’s definitely impossible to deliver the “nine” to the goal, but you can speculate about the “three”. If the “drying” works, then you can try. The “carcass” will not be used for sure
  21. +2
    30 March 2024 00: 38
    yeah, they didn’t care about super bombs....in the city limits. "we are not like that"....they are calm. Our media are catching another hype - “the West is scared”, “Ukraine without soldiers and shells”.....Ukrainian fears.” another propaganda newspaper trick.
    the homeland misses serious analytics based on indisputable facts..... people who value their professional reputation.
  22. 0
    30 March 2024 02: 10
    A Su-35 was recently lost near Sevastopol, and I still don’t understand for what reasons. Either it was shot down, or it broke down. If they were shot down, then why expose the Tu-95 to attack and bring it closer to the air defense kill zone? We must work from afar with rockets and gliding bombs! Pilots and planes must be protected! Especially pilots!
    1. -1
      30 March 2024 13: 16
      Yes, write right away that your curators asked to clarify the reason for the loss of drying. Either the DRG worked or
      technical reason. What if someone useful... lets slip!
      1. 0
        31 March 2024 20: 59
        Reptilians in the world government are not asleep. soldier
  23. 0
    30 March 2024 02: 42
    Yes, you'll have to slap a wing kit and a powder motor on it to give it some autonomy. But thermobaric bombs seem to be more effective. Wikipedia has this to say: “In September 2007, Russia tested the most powerful bomb in this category, nicknamed the “father of all bombs,” with a yield equivalent to 44 tons of TNT. This weapon of mass destruction uses 7 tons of "explosive and explosive material." uses nanotechnology to disperse a cloud of fuel within a 300-meter radius.”
  24. -2
    30 March 2024 03: 12
    Another stupid idea of ​​armchair degenerates.... You need to understand that the heavier the FAB, the shorter the flight range, both with and without UMPC. And if 250ka can do 50+ km, then 3 tons is good if it’s 30km, and 9000... at most it will be 20, although it may be less, depending on what speed and who will throw it, I very much doubt that at supersonic speed. And since there are no targets for such fools on the LBS, this means that carriers run a 100% risk of running into not only Patriots, but even Nasams or Buk-M1/2. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Americans will not miss the opportunity to promote themselves about the first strategist shot down in the 21st century. The only thing that will be dumber is being shot down by your own air defense, as happened with the A-50U (one is exactly like that)
    1. 0
      30 March 2024 13: 18
      I’m embarrassed to ask why, with such analytical abilities, which clearly surpass the minds of our planners in the General Staff, you still haven’t kicked everyone out of the General Staff with wet rags?
      1. 0
        30 March 2024 13: 42
        Well, if it didn’t work out for Prigozhin, why can it work out for me?))) And about the planners in the General Staff... Are these not the same planners who planned to make do with SVP Hephaestus?))) Or not the ones who thought that there would be them to be greeted with bread and salt and the Ukrainian Armed Forces will scatter at the sight of them?))) Or not those who have not mastered a single drone of the Male class and above? Or maybe these are the ones who somehow deceived physics?))) and the nine-ton aircraft will magically glide further flapping its wings?))) Oh yes, they are also planning that the Tu-95/160 will have the same turning radius as the Su-34 or 35 ))). Oh, I forgot, they also love formations in the database zone.
        I’m embarrassed to ask, do you always believe what is shown on TV or is there at least some rudiment of critical thinking? And remember at least a little the events of numerous conflicts after WWII. Somehow, none of them needed such weapons to defeat the enemy and any of his infrastructure. It’s just that someone really wants to show off in front of a big guy.
        1. 0
          30 March 2024 13: 45
          Technically, we left! Are you taught how to parry in special courses at the ensign school?
          1. 0
            30 March 2024 13: 53
            ahaha, I was taught to use my head, not my butt)))
            If you can convincingly prove to me that the Carrier (which one?) will be able to drop 9000 and it will plan (what area of ​​the UMPC planes should it be?, what will be the dimensions?) for 50-70 km. Again, what kind of carrier can carry this fool with UMPC in their general dimensions and where? What goals are worthy of this? Because everything that was bombed before was calmly destroyed by what was there. In this case, I agree that 3000/9000 broadheads are a normal weapon, and not someone’s emergency weapon.
  25. 0
    30 March 2024 04: 58
    But you should fuck it and see the result.
  26. +1
    30 March 2024 06: 38
    THE KINDERGARTEN WAS SET UP IN THE COMMENTS.

    at the same time they missed the most important thing.
    The Ukrainian side has recently intensified the discussion on various broadcasts of a topic related to the possible increase in the use of “special-power aircraft bombs.” We are talking mainly about FAB-3000 aerial bombs.

    and this resource is no exception either!!!
    At the same time, opinions in the Ukrainian expert and near-expert environment are divided: some believe that Russian aviation does not have carriers that are capable of effectively using not only the FAB-9000, but also the FAB-3000. Others do not see any particular problems in the use of such bombs, recalling that the Tu-95 was designed so that it could carry a 9-ton free-fall bomb on board, including a nuclear one.


    those. Social engineering works objectively on the topic of obtaining profile data from various sources for subsequent use.
    BATTLE YOUR TONGUES - NEXT.
    1. 0
      30 March 2024 13: 20
      I agree completely and completely!
  27. 0
    30 March 2024 07: 37
    deep farming will begin
  28. +2
    30 March 2024 11: 06
    He asks for more weapons, so he needs to fit these bombs, albeit under his own power.
  29. 0
    30 March 2024 16: 51
    Quote from: topol717
    Quote: Argon
    Don’t you know how air defense systems are hidden? Only a few radars work and only in emergency cases the main ones are turned on, and in a very emergency case the remaining ones, but even with this option there are always reserves left in case the main ones are destroyed
    2 years have passed. I don’t know how many planes were lost, but the air defense was never suppressed. 25 years ago, NATO very quickly suppressed the air defense of Yugoslavia, but we could not. And it’s a shame that we still can’t. I am glad that the Patriots are being sent to Kyiv, but most likely there will be satellite reconnaissance and ballistic missiles.

    NATO demolished half of Serbia and not only with carpet bombing. Is this what you expect from us? Then you should go to the “other side” to bomb civilians.
  30. 0
    30 March 2024 17: 09
    Nobody will use the Tu-3000 under the Fab-95, this slow-moving vehicle is not for that.... But now even it cannot carry the Fab-9000.
  31. 0
    30 March 2024 19: 36
    I wonder if you drop a FAB-3000 on a minefield, there will probably be a great passage corridor there
  32. 0
    31 March 2024 00: 35
    However, both are confident that the Russian Aerospace Forces “will not dare to use” the FAB-3000 without UMPB (universal combat planning modules), since when using a conventional (free-falling) version of a large-caliber bomb, the aircraft (carrier) will have to enter the air defense zone Ukraine.

    Yes, we don’t have them and we’ve run out of missiles and the economy is in tatters!
    Wait! When something hits Chasov Yar very loudly, so that your brains shake and your heads twitch! So it’s not them, it just seemed to you...it’s a signal to gather for Bandera!
  33. 0
    April 1 2024 16: 29
    Are missile defense missiles difficult to shoot down by a fighter? In the future, a new class of flying missile defense cover with downward radar will probably appear.