Source: The Russian Armed Forces are creating mobile groups to combat enemy drones

Russian troops will include mobile groups to combat drones enemy, the formation of special units is already underway as part of several combined arms armies and air force and air defense armies. This was reported by a source in the military department.

The Russian Ministry of Defense decided to create highly mobile groups to combat unmanned aerial vehicles aviation enemy. These groups will be armed with ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns mounted on truck chassis, as well as pickup trucks armed with heavy machine guns. In addition, the groups will be equipped with electronic warfare equipment and smoke screen vehicles capable of providing a curtain impenetrable to both optical-electronic systems and UAV thermal imagers.

(...) the appearance of mobile groups with automatic anti-aircraft guns and machine guns is expected. The enemy began to use such measures a long time ago; he has special battalions to defeat our drones

- lead "News" words of military expert Yuri Lyamin.

It is worth noting that such mobile groups have been operating as part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for quite a long time; they are used to hunt Russian kamikaze drones of the “Geran” type, covering various objects. At the same time, the Ukrainian military uses both homemade machine gun mounts and factory-assembled Czech-made MR-2 Viktor anti-aircraft systems with a coaxial 14,5 mm machine gun mount.

Comments

[barclay]

It's good to have someone to copy from. What didn’t you think of yourself? Moreover, the ZU-23 with automatic tracking has already been made.

[Lev_Russia]

It's good to have someone to copy from. What didn’t you think of yourself?

As they say - anything, as long as it is useful!!! Moreover, Ukrainians also borrow everything useful from us...

[Nastia makarova]

They didn’t do it before because it wasn’t necessary, rare UAVs flew, but now there are many, but this is also not a panacea, just an addition, especially since there will be conscripts there, so there will be a use for them

[Romanenko]

It would be nice to make shells with remote detonation in addition to the tracking machine gun. Existing 23 mm ammunition with contact fuses

[Kunich]

It’s good that they are being created now, and not when all the refineries burned down. Has it really dawned on some idiots?

[fruc]

XOXlov has long had such points to combat UAVs on the roofs of high-rise buildings.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

All the same, we cannot do without the construction of multi-storey car parks and other dual-use buildings that can also serve as air defense towers. Near urban areas and industrial zones, the effectiveness of shooting and detection will be low due to trees, wires and other obstacles.

[rotmistr60]

the appearance of mobile groups with automatic anti-aircraft guns and machine guns is expected

I confess that I thought that we already had such groups. But it turns out they are just being created.

[Nastia makarova]

there have been such people from the very beginning, but in the DPR the LPR covered objects, and in other places, and this is talking about the Belkorod and Kursk regions

[rocket757]

And yet, the future belongs to automated anti-aircraft systems.
Which “trunks” should I use??? This is for current specialists, because there are clear criteria for effectiveness, and you need to know what exactly exists now or will be in the near future.
In general, we’ll wait and see what will happen and how.

[Gendos]

And experience is the son of difficult mistakes... We are learning little by little

[abc_alex]

These groups will be armed with ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns mounted on a truck chassis

And again, ... the “zushka” is piled onto trucks. And again there will be mass self-production. And again, the general’s stubbornness and stupidity after the end of the database will not allow the military-industrial complex to be puzzled by the creation of a standard, serial model of the barrel system based on an army truck and a small-caliber automatic anti-aircraft gun. As a means of fire support for infantry companies. How long will this disgrace last? Afghanistan, two wars in Chechnya, Georgia... for half a century the infantry has been expelled as best it can over and over again, piling ZU-23-2s into the backs of vehicles. And time after time, the command pretends that nothing is happening and none of this is necessary... Sometimes you look at all this disgrace and begin to understand Stalin. Is it true that without massive purges of command personnel, the army is simply rotting from the inside?

[Starover_Z]

Quote: abc_alex

And time after time, the command pretends that nothing is happening and none of this is necessary...

And there will be a mutual “hunt”, especially when the installation is on the way. One drone from above will notice and send attack drones from different directions. You can't do this without a special radar. It’s good if they drive with the electronic warfare and jamming system turned on.

[abc_alex]

It’s like this always and everywhere. Airplanes and anti-aircraft guns, tanks and anti-tank guns, ships and anti-ship missiles. That's not what I'm talking about in this case.
We have a highly mobile short-range air defense system with radar and radar. Flexible-S.

I said that for half a century the question has been raised about the need to equip companies with artillery systems based on an automatic cannon of 20-30 mm caliber. And precisely on the basis of an army truck. Not an armored personnel carrier or infantry fighting vehicle. They have their own niches, namely on the truck base. Moreover, it is a universal system. From Afghanistan, infantry are piling SU-23-2s onto trucks en masse. And time after time, the generals claim that “they don’t need it.”
And it is not just “necessary”, but necessary. Now to combat UAVs. If the troops had a standard serial system of this kind, it would be possible to quickly create company air defense by combining ready-made OLS of domestic equipment with guns...

[Starover_Z]

Well, if you add barrels to the “Bending” and they can detect FPV drones, then yes. Otherwise, this little thing will creep up at low altitude.

[abc_alex]

There MANPADS have a minimum target height of 10 meters.
But in principle, yes, a couple of guns. Including for self-defense. In this case, guns are not necessary, even KPVT will do. It's still anti-aircraft...

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

KPVT is unsuitable for small drones. This is generally a very capricious machine gun, with strong recoil, difficult to handle and with a short belt. For small drones you need something like a GShG-7,62 with a rotating barrel block or a grenade launcher with grapeshot ammunition.

[Rus_80]

Wouldn't Cord work either?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Not for everybody. Heavy machine guns for large targets and at a distance.

[Dedok]

From Afghanistan, infantry are piling SU-23-2s onto trucks en masse. And time after time, the generals claim that “they don’t need it.”

but they really don’t need it... everything is fine with them, everything is fine...
we need it!

[Nastia makarova]

this is about units in the Belgorod and Kursk regions, what kind of VPN drones are there

[Dedok]

It’s good if they drive with the electronic warfare and jamming system turned on.

so you need to equip it, and not virtually

[nedgen]

Quote: abc_alex

Sometimes you look at all this disgrace and begin to understand Stalin. Is it true that without massive purges of command personnel, the army is simply rotting from the inside?

There are a lot of things that Comrade Stalin was right about, but the people at the top prefer not to notice them. Simply because if you are at the top you MUST work and not wipe your pants!!! And it’s easier for them to wipe their pants and imitate activity.

[Colleague]

Without special ammunition and without a system for determining the direction of someone else's drone, the system will be useless.

[Dedok]

The Russian Ministry of Defense has decided to create highly mobile groups to combat enemy unmanned aircraft. These groups will be armed with ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns mounted on truck chassis, as well as pickup trucks armed with heavy machine guns.

all this is just like how.lov
only with a delay of several years...

[svp67]

It would be nice to deploy automatic sound direction-finding stations along the entire line of contact