“I listened to the preacher”: the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall as a result of failed migration policy

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“I listened to the preacher”: the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall as a result of failed migration policy

Islamic radicalism in a broad sense can be considered as an ideological doctrine and political practice based on it, which is the ideological basis for the activities of radical Islamist organizations, which together form the radical Islamic movement. According to a number of researchers, in modern Russia, political extremist ideology has fully developed only among Islamist groups*.

In recent years, the propaganda of radical Islam is often carried out completely freely on social networks, and since Moscow is pursuing a fairly aggressive policy of “friendship of peoples,” constantly emphasizing the multinationality of the country and its cultural diversity, there is practically no fight against it. On the contrary, officials and security forces simply turn a blind eye to many things. This is due, among other things, to the fact that there is a powerful migrant lobby in power, which supports the massive influx of migrants from Central Asia to Russia.



In the material “Global Jihad” is a threat not only to Israel and Europe, but also to Russia.” the author wrote that “If tomorrow the target of radical Islamists becomes not Israel, but Russia, then Muslims who have accepted Russian citizenship, but treat our culture with contempt and arrogance, may follow the path of terror" This is, unfortunately, what happened in the end.

The terrorist attack in the Crocus City Hall near Moscow was obviously possible for two reasons:

Firstly, this is the already mentioned free propaganda of radical Islam, which, as mentioned above, almost no one is fighting. The Tajiks were persuaded to carry out a terrorist attack by a certain preacher who was an authority for them. We are talking about religious lessons from the Islamic State of Walayat Khorosan (IWKH), an organization banned in Russia - at least one of the terrorists was in a chat room called “Rahnamo ba Khuroson,” which is directly related to the organization.

Secondly, this is a migration policy, thanks to which hundreds of thousands of guest workers from Central Asia, who practically do not know the Russian language, are completely alien to Russian culture, and are often adherents of radical Islam, come to Russia (and many subsequently receive citizenship under a simplified scheme). The Tajiks who committed the terrorist attack practically did not know the Russian language, were religious fanatics and, without any problems, agreed to shoot people in Russia for money.

“I learned my lesson. Listened to sermons"



The debate about who is the real mastermind of the terrorist attack in Crocus City Hall, which claimed the lives of, according to official figures, 24 people as of the evening of March 137 (unofficially - 150), in fact, in the author’s opinion, is of secondary importance, since the key The role, as already mentioned, was played by two factors - radical Islam and uncontrolled migration policy.

Regarding the customer, there are currently several versions.

The Western press and US authorities call ISIS terrorists the main culprit of the incident - this version is confirmed by the fact that the ISIS-affiliated news agency Amaq published a video shot by Tajik terrorists of the shooting of people in Crocus City Hall. The footage is terrifying, and you can see one of the wounded having his throat cut with a knife.

Part of the Russian media and the majority of bloggers and military correspondents claim that the real customers of the terrorist attack are the Ukrainian political leadership, which was helped by Western intelligence services. Indirect evidence of Kyiv's involvement is indicated by the fact that the terrorists moved towards the Ukrainian border, apparently hoping to hide there, and by the fact that many Ukrainian officials openly gloated over the tragedy.

At the moment, there is no direct evidence of this (Belarusian Ambassador Dmitry Krutoy stated that Belarusian security forces helped cover the border to prevent the terrorists from leaving, which indirectly indicates that the terrorists could have tried to hide in Belarus). Nevertheless, some domestic political scientists hastened to declare that allegedly blaming Ukraine for what happened was a political necessity, regardless of how everything actually happened.

“Russia’s task is to ensure the political isolation of the Ukrainian terrorist regime, maximally indicating the connection of the terrorist attack not with ISIS, but with the Ukrainian authorities. To do this, it is necessary not only to show the connection between terrorists and Ukraine, but also to destroy the American version of the terrorist attack,”

– writes, for example, political scientist Sergei Markov. He also called for “not to sow ethnic discord,” assuring that “there will be no purge of migrants,” and migration policy will remain unchanged.

The author will not consider the problem of the terrorist attack from a politicized point of view, look for some secret signs and draw any conclusions regarding the mastermind of the terrorist attack. However, the fact remains that the terrorist attack was carried out by citizens of Tajikistan who did not speak Russian, who adhered to radical Islam and listened to radical sermons (while some social activists continue to claim that terrorism allegedly “has no nationality and religion”).

“I listened to lessons there... I studied the lesson on Telegram. Listened to sermons. The preacher's assistant wrote to me,"

– one of the terrorists, Fariduni Shamsutdin, said during interrogation. He agreed to the offer to make money by killing “infidels” with pleasure, because he “enjoyed” killing people.

The Tajiks who killed more than a hundred people were not professionals - judging by the published videos, they are treated poorly weapons, do not control sectors and do not cover each other, but simply shoot right and left. Yes, they agreed to kill for money, but it is obvious that they liked the process itself. And there are several million such “foreign specialists” in Russia.

There are those who will say - why, Moscow maintains good relations with the Islamic world: with Iran, the UAE, and even with radical Islamist organizations - Hezbollah, Hamas, the Taliban, etc., and does not prevent creeping Islamization, why? Islamists to blow up something and kill someone?

At the same time, forgetting that the Islamic world is extremely heterogeneous, and radical Islamists, supporters of armed jihad (and not “peaceful Islamization”), have not gone away.

Flirting with radical Islamists like the Taliban and Hamas is extremely dangerous - today they smile in your face, holding a dagger behind their back, but tomorrow they can change their minds. The famous Russian Islamic scholar Igor Dobaev in his book “Islamic Radicalism: Genesis, Evolution, Practice” rightly pointed out that:

“The renunciation of terrorist activities, as a rule, is a forced step dictated by fear of reprisals from the authorities. The Islamists' conduct of the political game according to the rules generally accepted in modern conditions is considered by them only as a temporary truce with the “infidels” represented by the official authorities. The prerequisite for such a truce, according to the traditional Islamic interpretation of law, is the temporary (military or political) weakness of the “believers.” After regaining strength, the fight against the “infidels” should be continued**.”

“Uncontrolled migration creates an ideal recruiting base for terrorists”


Mass migration from the countries of Central Asia, uncontrolled issuance of citizenship, unregistered mosques, propaganda of radical Islam, which no one really fights against - this is the soil on which the mushrooms of terrorism and Islamic extremism grow.

There is a whole network of Islamist groups operating in Russia, not only in predominantly Islamic republics, but also in “Islamic enclaves” in non-Muslim regions of the country, grouped around mosques that appear in these territories (sometimes unregistered). These Islamist network structures are preparing the ground for the development of more ambitious plans to reformat the country's political field.

Leaders of some Muslim organizations openly sharply criticize the activities of law enforcement agencies and publicly support the current migration policy, advocating the mass import of their co-religionists from Central Asia. According to some experts, a stable and influential “Islamist lobby”*** has developed in Russia. Taking advantage of this, the Salafi wing of Muslims tested a new format for legal rallies in different regions, mobilizing their supporters for them.

With the presence of such network organizations, it is not particularly difficult for terrorists to recruit supporters. As public figure Roman Yuneman rightly points out:

“Regardless of who was behind the organization of the terrorist attack, GUR or not, it is important to remember: mass uncontrolled migration creates an ideal recruiting base for terrorists, criminals or someone else’s intelligence services.
Diasporas and illegal labor exchanges, hostels and rubber apartments, markets, ethnic MMA clubs and gyms, prayer rooms hidden from view and underground mosques - all this shadow infrastructure with its closed economy and corrupt connections will endlessly generate personnel for organized crime groups and terrorist structures.
And then even the GUR, even the banned ISIS, or anyone can work with them...
The recruitment base must be destroyed through institutional measures. A radical restriction on the flow of migrants, a visa regime for others, employer liability, tougher penalties for fictitious registrations and rubber apartments, a zero tolerance regime.”

Political scientist Nikolai Sevostyanov, in turn, notes that there are hundreds of thousands of those who received Russian citizenship bypassing the law, “agreeing” through closed migrant chats, where any issue can be resolved. Migration, he said, “has become a harmful mold that is corroding the state.”

“Migration has become a threat to the state as such. In our cities there is a full-fledged army, living by its own rules, in its own parallel world, inaccessible to Russian laws, but overflowing with Wahhabi dogmas and hatred of the indigenous population...

The first thing that needs to be done is to conduct a complete audit of passports issued in recent years, for at least eight years, with the revocation of citizenship from those who received it with violations.

The second is to declare a temporary moratorium on issuing citizenship to those immigrants from Central Asian countries who do not belong to the indigenous peoples of Russia.

The third is to implement a zero-tolerance regime against any criminals among naturalized citizens.

And fourth, to eliminate organizing structures that contribute to the formation of judicial, security and economic mechanisms parallel to the state,”

– says Sevostyanov.

Indeed, labor migration to Russia is difficult to analyze logically, since, as political scientist Yuri Baranchik noted, it looks less like labor migration and more like resettlement of peoples.

At the same time, it does not seem that officials are going to change anything. Migration policy lobbyists, who immediately after the terrorist attack pushed narratives to some media outlets (in particular, Kommersant) that the terrorists were not natives of Central Asia, but “Slavs with false beards,” are now pushing other narratives that those who those who advocate changing migration policy are “agents of enemy intelligence services”, “racists”, “inciters of ethnic hatred”, etc.

Of course, there are those who actively advocate for an immediate tightening of migration policy - for example, State Duma deputies Mikhail Matveev or Mikhail Sheremet, who proposed limiting the entry of migrants into Russia, at least for the duration of a special military operation - however, in essence, this is a voice crying out loud. desert.

Nevertheless, without changing migration policy, the threat of new terrorist attacks will continue to remain high, because Islamic radicalism in Russia has fertile soil.

If today the “preachers” easily found among their supporters those who are ready to kill people in the Crocus City Hall concert hall in Krasnogorsk, then what will happen if they call for even more terrible actions?

Notes:
*Cm. Vorontsov S. A. Islamic radicalism as a threat to the national security of modern Russia // Philosophy of Law: Scientific and theoretical journal No. 2 (27) / 2008.
**Quote from: I. P. Dobaev. Islamic radicalism: genesis, evolution, practice. – Rostov-on-Don: Publishing house SKNTs VSh, 2002.
***Cm. Dobaev I.P. Radicalization of Islam in modern Russia. – Moscow – Rostov-on-Don: Social and humanitarian knowledge, 2014.


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  1. +31
    27 March 2024 04: 18
    The patterns of development of radical immigration are given,
    Recommendations for quickly solving the problem are provided.

    But the factors of deep-seated arrival of immigrants are ignored.
    I believe that one of the key factors of immigration is
    refusal of the country's authorities from a sustainable development model.

    A sustainable model does not imply wild growth in Moscow's well-being.
    It requires the development of the COUNTRY - uniform in space and time.
    This is not the case: Moscow is getting little and little!
    At the same time, in a number of small regional capitals, even basic problems have not been resolved.
    For example, a pipe (heating main?) the size of a man runs through Kemerovo!

    The beginning of the last wave of Moscow’s development was the decision to make it an appendage
    to the southwest, which led to another invasion of immigrants.
    But there was a proposal to build Skolkovo in Novosibirsk, NN or Tomsk.
    And local labor resources in the regions could be loaded.
    Those. raise the efficiency of the Russian people. And it was easier to track the radicals..

    But no, give us the Tower of Babel (Crocus City) in every Krasnogorsk,
    we want music - in every provincial town that was once near Moscow.
    And in Salekhard and Magadan... let the losers live,
    plowing on our Moscow consumerism.

    So on whose conscience is the murder of the people in the Constitutional Court?
    I'm not even talking about the fact that the Ministry of Internal Affairs is experiencing problems with staffing.
    1. +18
      27 March 2024 04: 41
      Migration, he said, “has become a harmful mold that is corroding the state.”
      And mold is removed with bleach!
      looks more like labor migration than the resettlement of peoples.

      Are they promised 25 million highly skilled jobs?
      And I completely agree with Sevostyanov’s plan! It's a shame it won't be used...
      1. +19
        27 March 2024 06: 41
        Are they promised 25 million highly skilled jobs?
        And then it turns out that million-plus cities were conceived for them.. Everything is for them, dammit.. Whoever applies it (Sevostyanov’s plan), they are more likely to stigmatize the creators of such plans
        “agents of enemy intelligence services”, “racists”, “inciters of ethnic hatred”, etc.
        1. +7
          27 March 2024 07: 52
          I don’t understand right now... they said - the power steering is Ukrainian, and the author is pumping up the topic of foreign specialists?
          1. +8
            27 March 2024 08: 30
            Vadim hi , it’s still more important who condoned this. So, even if I committed even a small failure in production, I did not hide my guilt from my subordinates. What do you think the Minister of Internal Affairs should do in light of the problems with migrants? He looks like an officer... am
            1. +5
              27 March 2024 08: 58
              Quote: My address
              Vadim hi , it’s still more important who condoned this. So, even if I committed even a small failure in production, I did not hide my guilt from my subordinates. What do you think the Minister of Internal Affairs should do in light of the problems with migrants? He looks like an officer... am

              The minister reports only to his superiors and does not owe us anything.
              1. +14
                27 March 2024 11: 26
                Another article. Another explosion of emotions. Another set of proposals on how to avoid disaster.
                AND WHAT? Has any of those who are responsible for resolving these issues done anything real? In addition to public speaking, of course. Or has this problem just become apparent to them?
                1. -2
                  27 March 2024 18: 00
                  This is what I mean. Today Al Jazeera, the BBC, and the Dutch media announced the numbers.
                  38 people died from gunshots. 41 people died from stabs and other injuries.
                  They wonder, what about the rest? In this case, there is a reference to the officialdom of the Russian Federation.
                  On the Internet, they are playing a video from the “wilayat of Khorasan” that these... have taken responsibility.
                  Moreover, NOBODY comments that when exclamating ALLAH Akbar, a Muslim does not raise his left hand with the index finger up (Muslims consider it haram. You should raise your right hand. Muslims will not let you lie). In general, there are more than enough oddities. This is Friday, a holy day for Muslims, an absolutely disastrous retreat plan, retreat in a group, the color of the car, they stupidly rush 400 km to the territory where the SVO is being held, and also, why the hell take rubles when you’re heading to Hochland. It is more expedient to buy hevriki or bucks or, at worst, hryvnia. As is known during the tragedy, the faces of the barmalei are blurred and their voices are changed. And the cherry, as they say. The AI ​​conducted a study of footage from the scene of the tragedy and persons detained after the tragedy and made an analysis based on anthropological data of body structures and figures. Total DISCONFORMITY. ISIS members always accompany their actions with praises to ALLAH. These... mumbled something once or twice. Not many connections.
                2. 0
                  April 3 2024 08: 05
                  Migrant and migrant are different. It is high time to replace Central Asian migrants with immigrants from India. Complete advantages: pay in rupees, religion is different, they are not friends with the Chinese.
          2. +13
            27 March 2024 11: 53
            belay request And I don’t understand. Which of them are the specialists? Class leaders, scientists, engineers of the highest category? Illiterate cattle, overwhelmingly. And their children are the same in schools and on the streets.. And such people are easily mobilized into packs by the secret services of enemies. Necessary ban the entry of migrants altogether. The time is now
            1. +5
              27 March 2024 17: 22
              I’ll risk saying something that could get you slapped on the horns, but it hurts...
              After the tragedy in Crocus City, in the TV program “Spas” it flowed in a stream that they themselves were to blame for what happened, because there is no point in going to shameful concerts during Lent, but we must fast and pray. Whence it follows that terrorists are a punishment for sins, and they themselves are only a sword in the hands of Providence.
              The de facto fusion of church and state does not please me: neither the churches on the territory of universities, nor the top officials of the state who pray in front of cameras in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior on major church holidays, nor the ardent meddling of hierarchs in secular affairs: remember how they were killed through their efforts the movie "Matilda"? And with what persistence they pushed the teaching of “Fundamentals of Orthodox Culture” into schools! So, what are the successes? Crime in the new Russia is much higher than under the cursed “Soviet Union” - and this despite the disproportionately larger number of law enforcement officers; for a word that a believer considers offensive, they can be sent to trial - despite the fact that the believer himself can blurt out whatever he wants. This “culture” presupposes zombification and ignorance. If the Patriarch himself publicly declares that evolutionary teaching is fiction, because everything is spelled out in the Old Testament, if an absurd textbook by a certain Vertyanov “Orthodox Biology” was published, if astronomy was quietly excluded from the school curriculum, then what kind of education can we talk about? ? In the lessons of Orthodox culture, no one will tell you how under Alexei Mikhailovich they collected and destroyed all the musical instruments, nor will they tell you how many people they killed - they were kicked out of their homes, deprived of their property, burned in hermitages and log cabins, turned into monastic serfs and later imposed double taxes - during the reform of Patriarch Nikon. But this is not the main thing. Orthodox, Catholics and Lutherans cannot tolerate each other only because there are insignificant differences in their beliefs. What can we say about the relationship between Christianity and Islam? The difference between Catholics and Huguenots is much smaller, but it was enough for the St. Bartholomew massacre.
              In Russia, Christians and Muslims, say, the Volga Tatars, live relatively calmly, but this was preceded by centuries of grinding, the main element of which was a common secular culture, a similar way of life, a single system of school education, a single law. The propaganda of atheism played a significant role in the calm in which the country lived right up to Gorbachev’s madness. But religious differences are only safe when there are none! And vice versa, every religion is a mine laid before times of social upheaval. And that is why strangers duped to the point of fanaticism have nothing to do in Russia. Multinationality should be built on the basis of indigenous ethnic groups, and not on imported zombies. And religion must be swept out of schools and government institutions, using the constitutional article on the separation of state and church. The article on “insulting tender feelings” must be effectively balanced by the inadmissibility of religious propaganda outside churches and in state media.
              It is clear that this is not the most important thing, and certainly not the only thing, but it is important.
              1. +6
                27 March 2024 17: 50
                Article about “insulting tender feelings”
                It’s easy to offend the feelings of a believer, but you can completely ignore the feelings of a non-believer; according to today’s standards, he is a second-class person.
              2. ada
                -3
                28 March 2024 05: 38
                You're right. I support. Restore the differentiation of state and church, stop religious obscurantism in society, elevate knowledge of the truth and conscience, and strengthen socialization on the basis of mutual assistance and lay it at the basis of society!
                Something that reminds me what
      2. +7
        27 March 2024 11: 43
        In our country there is a narrative about snickering Muscovites. How fair is this? This is only partly true, and is connected with the history of the development of the centralized Russian state. Moscow has historically occupied a privileged position in relation to other regions. The Great Moscow Princes, when annexing other principalities to the Moscow State, very actively resettled local elites (boyars, merchants, artisans) to Moscow, sending Muscovites to feed in the regions (Rostov, Suzdal, Nizhny Novgorod, Ryazan, Tver, etc.). This policy continued for centuries.
        Do Muscovites support the creation of a Greater Moscow? Not at all. Moscow is not rubber. The pace at which Russia’s largest metropolis is growing will soon turn the entire Moscow region and part of the neighboring regions into Moscow. Why is this necessary? Who needs it? Do we have nowhere to live in the largest country in the world? Are we Luxembourg, which you get tired of looking for on the map?
        I, as a native Muscovite, born and living in Moscow, support the development of all regions of Russia. If Russia is a centralized state, then the country needs to be developed from the center to the outskirts. It is necessary to build high-speed roads and railways, gas-oil-pipelines towards the borders of Russia. Build cities, towns, and industries along transport highways.
        Stop upsetting Moscow. Enough.
        Under the USSR, many industries, plants, factories, and military-industrial complex enterprises were concentrated in Moscow. Now almost all the factories in the capital have been killed, the land has been sold for the construction of human settlements. If we compare it with the times of the USSR, now Moscow produces almost nothing, but only consumes. Do you think Muscovites don’t want to work in factories? They want to. Only in Moscow there are no factories. The nearest factories are in the Moscow region.
        The capital suffers the most from the invasion of migrants. If during the USSR I met barely two or three representatives of national minorities in a whole day, now when I get off the bus on the way to work, I am surprised to discover that the minority in the capital are Russians. Some areas of Moscow have turned into real ghettos, which are scary to enter. Somehow I ended up in New Moscow for work. Local migrants looked at me with aggressive, impudent, appraising glances. I made an angry face and put my hand in my bosom, pretending that I had a weapon there. I arrived home and put the hunting knife in my briefcase. I've been carrying a hunting knife in my briefcase for eight years. Just in case.
        Something like that.
        As for those who ordered the terrorist attack, these are well-known people in this photograph.
        1. +3
          27 March 2024 13: 38
          the reason for the growth of cities is the desire for a parasitic comfortable lifestyle
  2. +36
    27 March 2024 04: 35
    Without changing the migration policy, we will no longer care about terrorism, because we will have a massacre, a sort of St. Bartholomew’s Night. For now there are more of us, but over time this will change, and I don’t see any steps to change the situation in our direction. And the goals of the radicals and our elite quite coincide, some want capitalist feudalism, while others simply want it like in the Middle Ages. Well, we as a people and society are no longer capable of going on a crusade.... By the way, the reaction of our church is very indicative, no, well, a liturgy for the murdered, and the traditional turn the other cheek... Although I understand their position, we all already have tickets to heaven, we can relax...
    1. ada
      +15
      27 March 2024 05: 23
      Quote from turembo
      ... we all already have tickets to heaven, we can relax..

      Cough, cough. Tickets, of course, and relax...., with paradise overlay (I suspect that this is just a figurative expression of spiritualized nonsense) wassat
    2. +19
      27 March 2024 06: 53
      turembo
      Although I understand their position

      But I don't understand. They live one day at a time. In twenty years they risk being left without a flock...
      1. +8
        27 March 2024 09: 41
        Well, just as they were baptized in due time, so they will be circumcised, just think, that’s business, especially since for many of them it’s just a job and nothing more.
        1. +8
          27 March 2024 10: 08
          AdAstra
          especially since for many of them it’s just a job

          And this explains a lot...
  3. +24
    27 March 2024 05: 05
    So, the most shameful aspect in migration policy is that the former Central Asian republics, taking advantage of holes in Russian legislation and the omnivorous nature of migration officials who have long discredited themselves, are pushing out all their radicals and simply socially unacceptable abu bandits to us.
    This is not even remembering the fact that, in general, those who originally came to work, cling, drag their shabby relatives here and begin to parasitize on the social sphere of Russia.


    Apparently the government doesn’t care who whips it up - The Hague or crowds of migrants, apparently migrants are preferable...
    1. +8
      27 March 2024 06: 06
      Apparently migrants are preferable...
      They are closer than The Hague.
  4. ada
    -1
    27 March 2024 05: 15
    Well, you give..., guys.
    The terrorist attack, or rather the terrorist factor of influence on the emerging situation in the capital of the Russian Federation, was planned to be used as having a significant impact on the mood of the population and the overall impact on the internal policy of the state long before the birth of its perpetrators and in any case
    would have received potential and implementation during the period of greatest tension in the internal situation in our country - in any case.
    This is one of the many influencing factors that form the basis of US-NATO military planning and which are activated (initiated, created, renewed, etc.), usually in the pre-war period (the period of increasing military threats, threatened transition, etc.). ) for a specific purpose and can consist of a number of elements of terrorist activity of diverse forces, up to sabotage of the population and partisanship against government agencies, armed forces, enterprises, segments of the population, etc. Additionally, it should be noted that it also aims to shape foreign policy and international relations countries involved in the process of escalation in the desired manner for NATO at this stage of preparation for war or, probably, escalating military pressure (armed confrontation, projection of military force, threat, etc.).
    The range of conditions here is incredibly wide and emigration policy is not the first on the list, but it is definitely one of the main ones, and not only here. The disgusting ones do not disdain Europe and do not forget themselves - they invigorate.
    It is necessary to prepare for this and organize counteraction with a wide coverage of the population, but the main role always belongs to the special services. In fact, this is one of the signs of the pre-war period.
    1. +12
      27 March 2024 06: 52
      Well, you give..., guys....


      Respected.
      I read your comment twice. I still didn’t understand what you wanted to say with your very clever and intricate comment.

      Maybe you wanted to say that uncontrolled migration from Central Asian countries contributes to the penetration of potential terrorists into Russian territory? And this creates a basis for recruiting participants for subsequent terrorist attacks on Russian territory?

      Or maybe you wanted to convey to us that Russian citizenship should not be issued to a person from Central Asia who does not know Russian? Etc.

      If so, then I support your thoughts.
      1. ada
        +3
        27 March 2024 08: 23
        No, I’m not talking about migration policy, I don’t understand it and don’t even know the basics. And, there is nothing clever in the commentary, it’s just that, in my opinion, the discussion of the issue is somewhat superficial without examining the basis - where everything stems from and that the conclusion - a terrorist attack, as a result of a failed migration policy, is fundamentally wrong - it is from another place and it will be in in any case, even when there are no migrants. The people are misled due to the low level of military education in the country and the readers present here are moving away from the essence of the problem, but it is necessary to separate migration issues, which are secondary, from military issues, which are primary. Migrants themselves do not carry out acts of terrorism to strengthen their positions in the country; they are used by other forces. It is possible to resolve the issue with migrants by rejecting them and mass deportation through changes in domestic and foreign policy by the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but this will not help against hidden actions of the enemy. It is possible that most likely you do not know how a military conflict is built and carried out and who our enemy is and what he is, that is, what methods and specific methods of armed struggle will send you (in general) to the next world. Well, that's how it happened. Well, for me this is my specialty and I know it.
        So, all military planning of the United States and the United States_NATO + satellites in the Eastern Strategic Direction (this is the intercontinental, that is, the geostrategic direction of military aspirations, where their military efforts are applied in peacetime and wartime for military acquisitions) is based on the escalation potential of existing or created on the continent and in the region, factors influencing the geopolitical situation (and in particular the military) with escalation potential, such as disputed territories, armed conflicts, unresolved relations - interethnic, interfaith, political, economic, social, blood, etc. One of the most reliable ways to develop escalation in the right place is terrorism, which you have observed since the initiation of the so-called Ukrainian-Russian conflict - as an example, and to manage it, terrorist attacks against our citizens can also be shown as an example - minimum effort and maximum result, more blood is needed - the Malaysian Boeing will fall (these are traditionally the Americans' improvised planes). Well, I won’t describe all the enormity, it seems like the conflict is small and everything around is not significant and far away, but tomorrow - and they’re already shooting at you - fluff, fluff, fluff, fluff and that’s it... .
        I note that in order to prevent terrorist attacks, it is necessary, first of all, to counteract the enemy and not give him the opportunity to prepare them through political, special and military actions - in fact, this ultimately means an armed struggle against his forces, and migration policy is a separate topic and, of course, important.
        I tried to explain briefly the essence of the questions asked. winked
        1. RMT
          +2
          27 March 2024 15: 23
          "The people are misled due to the low level of military education in the country"
          By God, some clarification is needed here. What are the levels of military education?
          Just don’t say that there are two of them: sufficient and insufficient.
          1. ada
            0
            27 March 2024 17: 30
            Quote: RMT
            ...What are the levels of military education? ...
            Yes. I understand that you are asking whether they are literally defined as levels of education in state educational standards? Right? If so, then what you gave as an example of the level: “sufficient and insufficient” literally does not exist in the state education system. I use the concept of “level” as a relative gradient, say, of completeness of knowledge or sufficiency for something, that is, approximately with the same ideas that you defined and this is not an accident, this is the terminology of special military documents in its corresponding field. But, there are also accurate assessments of the military training of citizens as they go through various stages of life in our society, determined according to the requirements of official documents, and if I were at my workplace, I would also determine the levels of their military training.
            Formally, briefly, military training of citizens in WWII is divided into:
            “pre-war” in educational organizations, societies, etc. in accordance with programs and plans approved and agreed upon with the RF Ministry of Defense under the control of the department before military service - the level of training is determined by the federal standard and service documents of the Ministry of Defense;
            “military” during the period of military service, being in reserve and resources in the reserve of the RF Armed Forces, in accordance with the service documents of the Ministry of Defense and other departments and services.
            We do not consider wartime.
            All of the above is regulated or determined directly by federal legislation in the field of defense of the Russian Federation and the Federal Law “On Education in the Russian Federation”.
            As a result of pre-war training, a citizen (conscript, candidate) must have a level in accordance with the federal educational standard, at a minimum, master the training program on the basics of military service and undergo combat shooting training with a positive assessment, that is, master the basic or defining subjects of training. Otherwise, a diploma of secondary (complete) education cannot be obtained (except for special cases), and the citizen is assessed by level of training as “untrained” and if he is taken into account in the conscription resources, then to increase his level of education to “secondary” ( full)" and planning the manning of the Armed Forces, in certain cases, its additional training is organized at a specially created training center in basic subjects, including the basics of military service or the like, before mastering them.
            The training of military personnel and cadets takes place according to training plans and other official documents of departments with military service.
            Why am I describing it in detail (subject to change)? To understand that as a result of training, a citizen who has graduated from an educational organization (secondary school, TU or college, higher education), who has completed military service by conscription or under a contract must, and in some cases is obliged to know the basics of state policy in the field of defense, threats and challenges facing the country, be able to understand the emerging military-political situation and navigate this situation, act like a citizen. For this purpose, training programs provide appropriate subjects and additional classes.
            In particular, on the issue under consideration - a terrorist attack - relevant knowledge and skills are given, including as an element of the formation of an armed conflict.
            In fact, we can accept that with each stage of a citizen’s life, starting from a conscript and further - a conscript, a contract soldier, a contract officer, etc., being in the reserve - the level of his military training also changes. From the beginning it grows, and then it decreases and needs to be maintained.
            The RF Ministry of Defense has its own requirements and methodology for determining the level of military training of a citizen - a system.
            Using my experience, looking at events through TV, I can assume this level with an accessible degree of reliability.
            I may have missed some, but I tried to explain in detail.
            1. Msi
              +1
              27 March 2024 23: 38
              a citizen who has graduated from an educational organization (secondary school, TU or college, higher education), who has completed military service by conscription or under a contract must, and in some cases is obliged to know the basics of the state’s defense policy, the threats and challenges facing the country, and be able to understand the emerging military-political situation and navigate this situation, act like a citizen

              Really curious...
              1. ada
                +1
                28 March 2024 04: 30
                If you are interested in something specifically, then you need to turn to the current legal documents regulating the preparation of citizens for military service, usually the husband. gender (usually sufficient: Federal Law No. 28.03.1998-FZ dated March 53, 96 “On Military Duty and Military Service”, Order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation No. 134, Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation No. 24.02.2010 dated February XNUMX, XNUMX), and for military personnel, accordingly, only official documents of the department where military service is provided.
                If anything, I can dig deeper into my memory, maybe I’ll remember what you need from what is available for distribution without restrictions, of course winked
    2. Msi
      0
      28 March 2024 04: 45
      We need to prepare for this and organize counteraction with a wide coverage of the population

      Are we doing anything in this direction?
      In fact, this is one of the signs of the pre-war period

      Yeah... It's sad...
      1. ada
        +1
        28 March 2024 05: 21
        Well, countering terrorist attacks is anti-terrorist activity, not counting the special services, it is organized by the forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other law enforcement agencies, state and local government bodies, in organizations and enterprises, etc. according to a unified plan under the leadership of the ATD headquarters for the territorial division. Quite a voluminous work on preparing territories, buildings, forces and means of the ATD (armed units, doctors, rescuers, equipment and other means, supplies), classes and training, inspection of territories and buildings, etc. ad infinitum. Unfortunately, there is no wide coverage of the population here. As a rule, citizens acquire knowledge and skills in ADT at school, in the army, in educational organizations and at work. Territories subject to constant terror are trained by life and practical work is carried out there. Most of the territories are still outside of such manifestations. If the situation worsens, then it is necessary to create a terrorist defense, prepare shelters, train the population on warning signals and other measures, introduce time and spatial restrictions for the population. If necessary, prepare for evacuation.
        You can't list everything. It is possible to understand the level of training only at the ATD headquarters.
  5. +20
    27 March 2024 05: 31
    Moscow is pursuing a fairly aggressive policy of “friendship of peoples,” constantly emphasizing the multinationality of the country and its cultural diversity


    Exactly so!!...On the first working day, emergency unscheduled “events” of education dedicated to “friendship of peoples” took place. There was just a hint about the tragedy. ...blasphemy!
    It was difficult to understand, and even more difficult to “explain.”

    It seems that the diaspora and “builders” were very frightened by the consequences of the terrorist attack. Suddenly, they will really begin to fight anarchy in the enclaves.
  6. +22
    27 March 2024 05: 35
    To be different means to be different from other countries. To be ourselves. And for more than 30 years we have been striving for the ideal of the West. Walk along the street - “there are signs in Russian.” Mostly Latin. Even in our structure, we strive for European closeness. But we have a big country. What is democracy doing to us? In rhetoric, we seem to be different. But the extraordinary craving for money again makes us monotonous with the whole world. Normal home - this is not only the beauty of this house. And also a friendly family. It seems like elementary truths, but how far we have moved from them. We have such rich migrants that they can travel to Istanbul. And many of us don’t even have money in Russia.
    1. +5
      27 March 2024 11: 17
      To be different means to be different from other countries. To be ourselves. And for more than 30 years we have been striving for the ideal of the West....
      What is democracy doing to us?...

      For more than 30 years.....we have been striving for.... capitalism. Here is the result.
  7. +33
    27 March 2024 05: 45
    The difference between a moderate Muslim and a radical Islamist: the radical wants to cut the throats of infidels, and the moderate wants the radical to do it.
  8. +6
    27 March 2024 06: 13
    Another striking thing is that the Russian Orthodox Church and Russian Muslim spiritual leaders somehow cannot jointly find ways to counter Islamic radicalism in the ideological aspect.
    1. +12
      27 March 2024 06: 23
      Alexey, just to be honest, what is the authority among the wider masses (both ours and the migrants) of these “fed spiritual leaders”?
      Even if they cackle at gatherings, people don’t care. Here is a radical passionary, indicating to those who have nothing to lose except chains - they will be heard and achieve their goal.
      1. +5
        27 March 2024 06: 31
        Even if they cackle at gatherings
        Religion, as shepherds of various faiths claim, sows what is reasonable, good and eternal, but the seedlings are neither reasonable, nor good, nor eternal. The planet is burning with numerous conflicts that do not seem to subside.
        1. +10
          27 March 2024 06: 38
          Let our shepherds not sow, nor should they. They must shepherd souls, and souls must be nourished with faith. Well, if the church is a business, then you just need to have a wedding, funeral service, sell utensils and read sermons like a short course.
          And conflicts are the crucible of human development, without them there is nowhere. It’s just that ideological passionaries, with equal combat training and weapons, will definitely defeat secular professionals.
          1. +10
            27 March 2024 11: 26
            And conflicts are the crucible of human development, without them there is nowhere.

            Example number 1:
            In the history of mankind, there were moments of peace, and at the same time, development occurred in parallel.
            Example number 2:
            There are constant wars in Africa, but there is no development there.
            1. +4
              27 March 2024 13: 48
              Africa is developing. Lukashenko recently donated a tractor to the local vocational school, but how many of these vocational schools are left in Russia and will remain in ten or twenty years?
        2. ada
          +4
          27 March 2024 09: 04
          Quote: parusnik
          Religion, as pastors of various faiths say, sows reasonable, good and...
          Sorry, I couldn’t resist, with these words, I always remember the cat Matroskin from our m/f, where he is pleased with the work for his benefit. So, this is the kind of associativity, yes - this is the kindest wassat
        3. +5
          27 March 2024 11: 29
          The planet is burning from numerous conflicts that do not seem to subside.

          How will they calm down?
          People are different, religions are different, cultures are different.
          1. +4
            27 March 2024 12: 56
            How will they subside? People are different
            In Africa, for example, there are a lot of different people... Different people have already divided Sudan, Somalia, soon the same picture will happen in Ethiopia... Similar garbage in Southeast Asia, but the collapse of Burma is beginning or what is it called Myanmar now? In Latin and South America, it’s the same bullshit, local Indians are seeking rights...
            1. +3
              27 March 2024 13: 13
              In Africa, for example, there are a lot of different people...

              Well, yes, it’s not that people are very different, but there are differences.
              Additionally, there is a division into religion, political views, economic...
              There are many differences.

              Different people have already divided Sudan and Somalia, and soon the same picture will happen in Ethiopia...


              Sudan
              The Darfur region is inhabited by representatives of various nationalities, which in principle can be combined into two groups - black Africans and Arab tribes.

              Both profess Islam, but relations between the two ethnic groups have been tense for many centuries and have led to regular armed clashes.

              Money
              Until the 20th century, Darfur was a center of the slave trade, with black and Arab slave traders competing with each other to raid to capture slaves for resale to coastal Africa.

              Resources
              Ethnic groups conflicted among themselves and over limited land and water resources.
              The reason for the modern conflict was an agreement between Khartoum and the rebels of the South on the division of revenues from oil production.
              The black population of Darfur believes that their economic interests were not taken into account in the agreement.

              Southeast Asia has similar garbage, but the collapse of Burma is beginning, or what is it called Myanmar now?
              In Latin and South America, it’s the same bullshit, local Indians are seeking rights...

              This is true everywhere. There will be conflicts for a long time.
              1. +5
                27 March 2024 13: 18
                Moreover, black and Arab slave traders competed with each other
                Doesn’t the current bright future remind you of today? Replace the word slave traders with the word capitalists...
                There will be conflicts for a long time
                Yes, when the existing economic system of capitalism does not devour itself...
  9. +15
    27 March 2024 06: 26
    Not a failure, but a well-thought-out one, aimed at destroying the citizens of the country in which they arrive to “work” and then begin criminal activities, since they can get away with it all. And who “thought it out” and at whose prompting is a matter for the FSB.
  10. +26
    27 March 2024 06: 27
    Quote: “The Russian economy needs migrants; now there are not many of them in the labor market,” Russian President Vladimir Putin stated this at the plenary session of the Eastern Economic Forum (EEF-2023) in Vladivostok.

    “The economy, of course, requires the use of migrant workers in certain sectors. Most of all this is in the construction sector,” said the head of state.
    https://iz.ru/1572739/2023-09-12/putin-zaiavil-o-zainteresovannosti-ekonomiki-rf-v-migrantakh
    ...And about the “Ukrainian trace”: with all my “respect” for the Ukrainians, it should be noted that it was not the SBU that brought to the Russian Federation those pretzels that caused the Bada Boom in Crocus City. And I have some suspicions that it was not the SBU that gave citizenship to some terrorists. Who did it? Well, probably the one who spoke at the Economic Forum with statements about the need for migrants...Or not? :)
  11. +21
    27 March 2024 06: 29
    And who organized the “uncontrolled migration”? These organizers have a name and position. And here the question arises - is this a mistake or a deliberate crime, I am inclined to the second. Although one of the greats said - “worse than a crime, there can only be a mistake” (not literally).
  12. +16
    27 March 2024 06: 33
    [quote]Nevertheless, without a change in migration policy, the threat of new terrorist acts will still remain high, because Islamic radicalism in Russia has fertile soil.[/quote] It’s not enough to change this policy, they will still leak in and find loopholes. Migration to the Russian Federation should be completely banned .Russia is not a “melting pot” for the peoples of Central Asia, we can no longer digest Millions of of those who arrived, more than half need send back, Russia DOESN’T NEED them, a different mentality, the attitude towards Russians is worse than ever, generations have grown up raised on Islamic values and, accordingly, relating to people of other faiths. But such things have a hard time reaching the president, who said [quote]Russia needs an influx of migrants for its economic development, it is necessary to get rid of harmful obstacles that impede this process, said Russian President Vladimir Putin[/quote] Tragedies had to happen in order..[ quote][/The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation needs to think over a system of preventive anti-crime measures, including in the field of migration. President Vladimir Putin gave this order to the department. Quote] He can’t work proactively, or doesn’t want to? More like the second one.Great Russians fought to the death with Little Russians , and at this time millions of immigrants from Turkestan are being imported to the Russian Federation. How can we understand this? [quote]However, the fact remains that the terrorist attack was committed by citizens of Tajikistan who do not speak Russian,[/quote] As for this statement, there are big doubts. , it seems to me that they all know the Russian language more or less, they are stalling for time, turning on the fool, they chose such a defense tactic. Yes, interesting, where is the fifth participant attack, which our “die nut” bravely neutralized in the Crocus shopping center itself? It seems that they were with some guy, they knocked out a terrorist, even Bastrykin applied for a reward...and silence. Strange.
  13. +21
    27 March 2024 06: 37
    The Tajiks, who killed more than a hundred people, were not professionals - judging by the published videos, they handle weapons poorly, do not control sectors and do not cover each other, but simply shoot right and left
    Cool! After all, in the first hours they convinced us that they were professionals.
    As for bad officials. When it comes to the USSR, Lenin, Stalin, Brezhnev are always to blame. And now the nameless officials. As a result, no one. But at the beginning of his career he declared Russia is not for Russians. Then from morning to evening he instilled in me about multinational and multi-confessionalism. And finally, immediately after the terrorist attack, with the words “terrorists have no nationalities,” he said don’t touch the Tajiks...
    1. +13
      27 March 2024 08: 04
      Quote: Gardamir
      And now the nameless officials. As a result, no one.
      The result is Mi-6 and the CIA! Yesterday the conclusions were drawn that it was all of them, the damned ones... and our officials... well, they were just executors. "I'm not guilty" wassat
  14. +22
    27 March 2024 06: 38
    firstly, these organizations at the level of secret orders called diaspora should be banned from the word altogether. What kind of privileges are these? A Tajik or an Uzbek or an Armenian, being a citizen of Russia, are actually members of closed orders-sects for the indigenous nationalities of Russia, because the Russians of Russia or, say, the Karelians of Russia, the path to these orders under the names “Tajik diaspora”, “Uzbek diaspora”, “Armenian diaspora” is closed . So why then cannot Russians in Russia, Karelians in Russia, Udmurts in Russia, etc., create their own orders-sects under the name “diaspora”. You want to live to see such a mess.
    Secondly . Some of us complained that, looking at how Pashinyan, in his foreign policy, scoffs at Russia and kisses the sirloin of its enemies, the Armenian so-called diaspora, i.e. a secret order of Armenians citizens of Russia in Russia, will break off the horns of this Pashinyan, saying what are you doing against our benefactor Russia, because there are more Armenians living in Russia than there are Armenians in Armenia itself. Well, how did Russia expect at least a verbal campaign against Pashinyan’s policies from this secret order called the “Armenian diaspora in Russia”?
    Third . For the same reason, we will not wait for Russian support from the Tajik or Uzbek “diaspora” if the authorities of Uzbekistan or Tajikistan decide to act in a similar way as Pashinyan. But there are already dozens of times more of these in Russia than there are Armenians here.
    1. +13
      27 March 2024 07: 14
      Do you want to live to see such a mess?
      Just yesterday this thought appeared. Although the Russian March was successfully erased by the current government. After all, the article was invented for Russians.
  15. +15
    27 March 2024 06: 59
    If they call us again, they will go and continue to exterminate us! Now, if the Duma had been attacked and those same lobbyists had been killed, then something would have changed, but the Supreme Commander said “to be friends and not touch anyone”, they’ll finish the game one day, there’s no point in guessing.
  16. +18
    27 March 2024 07: 10
    Firstly, the option of hiding in the Republic of Belarus is complete nonsense; anyone who visits Belarus knows that it is impossible for an Asian to hide there - they are not there (it’s like hiding for a white person in Nigeria). Secondly, is it really a failure of the policies of the current government, did 87% of voters think about this? Thirdly, of course, all representatives of nationalities are different and many of the same people fight on their own, and I see a direct connection with the beginning of their own and the terrorist attack - from the beginning it was necessary to take into account all the risks!!!
  17. +9
    27 March 2024 07: 19
    The main thing in the article is that they “say”...
    They talk a lot, pretend even more - the appearance of struggle, the appearance of passing laws...
    The Tajiks who committed the terrorist attack practically did not know the Russian language, were religious fanatics and, without any problems, agreed to shoot people in Russia for money.

    Actually, religious FANATICS commit terrorist attacks in the name of religion, not money. These same, apparently, adhered to, so to speak, radical views - an ordinary village, but it looks like you can drink and eat pork - the main thing is the usual gangster views - killing a person is like slaughtering a sheep or cleaning a toilet - unpleasant, but work is like all others.
    Low threshold for committing a crime due to upbringing and life in the appropriate society.
    Therefore, even though I see only ISIS and the fat eaters as possible customers of such an idiotic terrorist attack, the style (in my humble opinion) does not look like a religious one... Although pointing at the country U is convenient and within the framework, I think it’s still They...

    And radicals are not particularly needed here... Greyhound migrants and the possibility of paying for their “works” are enough.
  18. +11
    27 March 2024 07: 44
    We have problems not with politics, but with the implementation of already adopted laws. What's the point of drawing new ones if the old ones are not respected?

    If these laws had been followed, one of these four would have been living outside of Russia for 3 months already.

    If you dig further, then the others, too, most likely violated a lot of things. But it’s easier for the authorities to turn the tables on foreign intelligence services, and it’s easier for the people to believe in anything other than a miscalculation by the authorities.
  19. +17
    27 March 2024 07: 44
    You can argue for hours, BUT grandfather and the small-town people who have latched on to the state feeding trough will have nothing to do. There is NO state control over religion, migration and government agencies and there will not be under these
  20. +24
    27 March 2024 08: 00
    Over these days, I have sifted through a lot of opinions and received a huge amount of information not only and not so much from VO materials, but from many outside sources.
    By the way!
    Why was Skomorokhov’s article removed? I suppose it was because one of the untouchable names was spoken there, Don. And a quote from the speech of the untouchable name, Don. What is affected is something that cannot be touched. It's like a tame cobra! How many trainers have died after being bitten by domesticated poisonous snakes? A lot of. Despite competent work to develop immunity to poison.
    Well, that's true, by the way. And my opinion about the terrorist attack in Crocus City is this. A terrorist attack is a message addressed not only to us, ordinary citizens, but also to the president. Oh, you citizens don’t like the massive importation of kishlaks into your ancestral territories? And therefore you allow yourself to be too loudly indignant at the excess of their numbers and the criminal obscenity of their behavior - don’t you? And you, the president, do not put a populist stop to these continuous and vile outbursts of raging subjects, and therefore one might think that you will follow the lead of the mob - isn’t it? Both the mob and the president - do you want to break our business of siphoning money from the country's budget into our pockets? Well, get both! The mob will take terrible revenge, and the president - know your place! Remember both - we are not for you, but you are for us! This is a warning!..
    Of course, I’m exaggerating in some ways, but such a background to what happened is possible. Among many others. And with great sadness I learned that our law enforcement officers do not fail - never! This is if we turn to the history of the issue of how radical movements of various kinds arose at the beginning of the last century and how law enforcement officers learned to work with them. Let me say this, the picture that emerges is chilling. Both radicals and law enforcement officers are always under control, they are always someone’s political instrument.
    1. +7
      27 March 2024 10: 53
      Hello, dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
      I have read your message. I won’t quote it, but I liked it a lot.
      Firstly. Without going into the ins and outs of the relationship between the Supreme Commander and the “don,” I want to note only one thing:
      The economic situation of the region is viewed very suspiciously, in which the budget is replenished by 1/5 from taxes and income earned by the region, and 4/5 is gratuitous receipts from a good uncle:
      projected total revenues of the republican budget in the amount of 123 thousand rubles, including gratuitous receipts in the amount 101 114 185,3 thousand rubles, tax and non-tax revenues in total 22 262 908,2 thousand rubles;

      On what basis? Due to what need?
      Surely you have read about the shooting from emasculated weapons during a wedding in the Krasnodar Territory. Why is such a tradition presented as something necessary?
      Maybe we need to remember fist fights?
      Our people are not weak. Today in the store, two comrades over 185 cm tall showed the image of real Siberians.
      Secondly. Too many questions arose for our guarantor after this terrorist attack in Crocus. It is clear that he cannot keep track of everything. But why have we been analyzing situations where the cause is the notorious human factor for more than two decades? Judge for yourself: they didn’t inspect them, didn’t check the documents, let them in without inspection, didn’t ensure the closure of the borders, violated safety regulations when performing work, didn’t check the compliance of the safety regulations with the rules and instructions...
      Well, then we need to ask what our “eternal guarantor” is going to lay down? And it may happen that he spells out the word “eternity” from the well-known four letters, as in one cartoon...
      He calls for unity, but time passes, and his election (at least) promises are in no hurry to fulfill... The State Duma, consisting of 75% members of "EdRa", does not want to pass laws...
      * * *
      The situation has not changed - we continue to hit the tails.
      1. +7
        27 March 2024 12: 05
        . The situation has not changed - we continue to hit the tails.

        Good afternoon, Yuri Vasilievich!
        Offhand, for me a particular nuisance in this whole situation with migrants is the recently adopted amendment to the law on conscription. Now your medical record doesn't matter. It doesn’t matter in what form the summons for military registration is sent to a man - in the form of a registered letter by mail, an entry in your government services office, a message on a mobile phone - upon reaching conscription age, the man himself is obliged to report to the military registration and enlistment office, whether or not there was a agenda - now it doesn’t matter. Just as the circumstances of a man’s personal life and the state of his health do not matter. In any case, he will be deemed fit and sent to the army. Some will say, this is good! The army turns a young immature man into a real adult man, brings him to perfection, so to speak. Maybe. However, not in the current realities, when the number of disabled people who have lost limbs has sharply increased. But the migrants will be left with their hands and feet. Simply keeping themselves in one piece increases the price of the issue for them, and the diaspora will always find money.
        1. -4
          27 March 2024 12: 35
          “But the migrants will be left with their hands and feet. Simply keeping themselves in one piece increases the price of the issue for them, and the diaspora will always find money.”

          The Tajik flight engineer killed by the traitor Kuzminov looks at you from the sky and thinks, “Well, you can’t put one size fits all, you can’t.”
          1. ada
            +1
            27 March 2024 18: 38
            Quote: depressant
            ... In any case, he will be found fit and sent to the army. ...

            Excuse me, but this statement has no basis, at least, from my experience working with VK, I have not observed this, not to mention the regulatory side.
            If you don’t mind, please explain what exactly you had in mind or what changes have occurred in the preparation of conscripts for military service. I simply cannot imagine this (except for the criminal component).
            Then, well, look at reality, here is a person answering you. Well, I don’t know, you are a respected correspondent here. Yes, and I had to intersect with Tajiks in my work and I can’t say anything bad. I can’t vouch for who was “on the other side of the sighting guns.”
            Quote: your1970
            “Well, you can’t fit everyone with the same brush, you can’t”
  21. +15
    27 March 2024 08: 12
    To resolve the issue with migrants, mass deportation (termination of Russian citizenship, temporary residence permit and residence permit) of natives of Central Asia who have received citizenship according to formal criteria is necessary:

    – income is below the median salary in the region for the last two years;
    – failure to register for military service within 3 months after receiving citizenship;
    – criminal prosecution or registration.
    More details https://topwar.ru/238270-17-trln-rublej-potracheno-na-vyplaty-detjam-bezrabotnyh-i-migrantov-v-2023-g.html

    Targeted work will not yield anything as long as a parallel society of migrants, living on child benefits according to their own laws and customs, remains.

    Those who work “in white” are mostly from large cities, speak Russian well and use it in everyday life. They themselves are horrified by the way their village tribesmen are behaving.
  22. +15
    27 March 2024 08: 38
    [quote]Terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall as a result failed migration policy [/ Quote]

    There are a lot of things that are failing us, don’t you think?
    Maybe what is happening in Moscow is just an imitation of vigorous activity?
  23. +8
    27 March 2024 08: 42
    Who writes manuals for settling Russia with migrants?
    https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1296078
    1. +5
      27 March 2024 10: 30
      Can add
      Migration programs in the Russian Federation were carried out by international organizations, the World Bank, foreign governments and NGOs
      https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1293531
  24. +18
    27 March 2024 08: 46
    The problem is not with the migrants themselves, the problem is with the authorities.
    The Kremlin is pursuing such a migration policy.
    Either intentionally or...
    The opinion of Russian citizens is of little interest to him.
  25. +14
    27 March 2024 09: 12
    We can smash the keyboard to pieces, but the authorities will not listen to us because:
    1. +5
      27 March 2024 09: 54
      During Medvedev’s time, it was customary to end all messages with kneeling.
      1. +3
        27 March 2024 14: 40
        Whether it was there or not, I didn’t see it. And in Putin’s time it was like this:
  26. +4
    27 March 2024 09: 51
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  27. 0
    27 March 2024 10: 07
    The Anglo-Saxons ordered it, the secret services of Anti-Russia (formerly Ukraine) organized the scheme, the Islamists (most likely from the Crimean Tatars) selected the performers. It turned out scary and loud, but the goal of the Anglo-Saxons was achieved: instead of finishing off Nazism in its new lair, Russia is being intensively pushed onto the path of xenophobia and internal degeneration. They want to pit Russia against other countries and peoples. For what? But simply because this will inevitably lead to interethnic conflicts and splits within Russia.
    1. +8
      27 March 2024 11: 49
      Russia is being intensely pushed onto the path

      on the path of abandoning migrants.
      Nice way by the way.
      They want to pit Russia against other countries and peoples.

      No. Nobody is pitting anyone against each other. These are fairy tales.
      But simply because this will inevitably lead to interethnic conflicts

      There have always been interethnic conflicts, they never ended.
      and the split within Russia.

      The greater the ethnic imbalance, the greater the split.
      This means we need to reduce the number of migrants.
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  29. +16
    27 March 2024 10: 29
    The Russian economy needs migrants; currently there are not many of them working in the labor market. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin at the plenary session of the Eastern Economic Forum (EEF-2023) in Vladivostok.

    Of course, it needs: 300 thousand mobilized young healthy men, twice as many (at least) as those who fled from mobilization - minus at least 900 thousand workers. And the second wave of mobilization for Russia will be a disaster - in a generation, Russia will no longer be recognizable, and knowledge of the Russian language will become optional.
  30. +9
    27 March 2024 10: 51
    Migration, he said, “has become a harmful mold that is corroding the state.”

    Not migration. Corruption. Migration is a symptom, corruption is the cause. Really, if the laws worked, would various Sharia crap dare to raise their heads?
    Ceterum censeo Washingtago delendam esse
  31. +8
    27 March 2024 11: 49
    Quote: Ivan Seversky
    To resolve the issue with migrants, mass deportation (termination of Russian citizenship, temporary residence permit and residence permit) of natives of Central Asia who have received citizenship according to formal criteria is necessary

    In addition to this, the introduction of any number of security forces into the cities to protect the indigenous population.
  32. +3
    27 March 2024 12: 11
    I'll leave my comment from VK. There was a post there even before the tragedy. In it I gave my view on the migration policy of the Russian Federation
    “It’s simple. Putin may be the President, but he is an official. And all officials are only servants of the capitalists. The most important thing for capitalists is profit.
    When you have large companies and thousands of people work for you. Then you can reduce your salary by increasing unemployment + importing cheap labor.
    If you don’t like it, quit, they will bring a migrant in your place.
    Simple arithmetic. If a capitalist has 1000 workers and saves 10 thousand per month on each one, calculate how much profit he will receive in a year. What if he has tens of thousands?
    Therefore, migrants are brought to Russia from Central Asia, to Europe from Africa, to the United States from Mexico and Latin America.
    Just like that. When they stop coming from Central Asia, they will start importing them from Africa to Russia. Or do you think it’s just because Putin became friends with African leaders?
    As long as there is capitalism, there will always be an influx of migrants. Capitalists don’t give a damn about the feelings of indigenous peoples; profit is more important to them.
    That's all. Those who do not understand this will blame ordinary migrants, 90% of whom are normal people, who are forced to leave their homeland not because of a good life.
    Also, pitting different peoples against each other is very convenient for a capitalist. So that people think that the deterioration of life is the fault of people of a different nationality, faith, etc.”
    1. +5
      27 March 2024 12: 20
      they will start importing it to Russia from Africa.
      They will not work - this is proven by experience.
  33. +7
    27 March 2024 12: 17
    everything is correct, but “the ulcer has already started”(((doctors need to be changed, but there are no others((
  34. +10
    27 March 2024 12: 38
    We don't need any migration policy. We don't need all these "specialists". Too many of them. I don’t believe that there won’t be people to fill the places that are filled with migrants. The neighborhoods began to "stink" from their food. All sorts of their establishments are opening, which smell from a distance. They cluster together and treat the indigenous people with aggression. According to them, we owe them.

    Let everyone leave. They are not needed here. But, unfortunately, I don’t know what else needs to happen for our authorities to stop importing them to entire villages and villages. Prohibit working and living here. If you are a doctor, an engineer, a really highly qualified worker, you know Russian without a dictionary, then welcome. The rest are guests. With all the rights and responsibilities of a GUEST.

    Sweep the hell out of it with a filthy broom. Let these specialists listen to preachers at home and raise their own country!
  35. +1
    27 March 2024 12: 45
    The impression was that any group of people with weapons could come to a mass event and cause a massacre. Who should be responsible for the safety of spectators? Obviously spectators must pay for their own safety. For example, insurance for a decent amount during the performance will allow you to hire armed guards, even a company of fighters.
  36. +4
    27 March 2024 12: 55
    These people are strange people :)

    Migrants break the law, including living here illegally - it would be logical to talk about compliance with the laws, and not about the fact that we need to fight the migrants themselves and not about the fact that we need to change the laws.

    What's the point of changing rules that don't apply? To then blame those who fail to fulfill their responsibilities? Why not start with this right away?
  37. +5
    27 March 2024 14: 19
    In my opinion, the main questions are who needs immigrants and why they are needed. If you believe the statistics, the population of Russia and the RSFSR is almost the same. During the union they managed without them. Equipment and technology have come a long way since then. So why import unskilled labor that is absolutely alien in culture, foundations, traditions, etc.? They have already created their own state here and they will not integrate into ours. There are already entire industries where our citizens practically cannot find a job, schools where our citizens try not to send their children, etc. They are pushing out and there is no end in sight. The process is gaining momentum. Very worried about the future.
  38. +3
    27 March 2024 15: 17
    Good luck to your feed.
  39. +2
    27 March 2024 15: 30
    Here's what's interesting to me. Of course, armed guards cannot be placed at every shopping center, and this is understandable. But now the authorities are actively directing popular discontent towards foreign intelligence services. And here the question should arise, what exactly are our intelligence services doing? It is clear that you cannot place an operative behind every Taliban, but the people who are pushing for the import of millions of hardworking and modest terrorists should have long ago fallen into the zone of “fatherly” attention and the development of connections by the special services. But the same Chlensulin and K* have been sitting in the government for a year now, and the old and new presidents declare that he is satisfied with the work of these officials. It turns out that our government, headed by a hydrant of the constitution, is enemies of Russia, or our special services went on a motor rally around Moscow in Gelikas and still haven’t returned? Or maybe they don’t exist in Russia at all? Judging by the ridiculous excuses “we were deceived again,” probably only the names and persons holding general positions remained from the special services.
  40. +6
    27 March 2024 16: 20
    Apparently, here we are within our traditional thinking paradigm. We have already voiced a position roughly containing “this is an attempt by external forces to destabilize the Russian interethnic space.” In bird language, this means that “we will not succumb to provocations” and, therefore, there will be a minimum of changes in the area regarding the interaction of nationalities. That is, there will be a minimum of changes in the migration field. You can say this is a form of “denial”, a self-prohibition on an adequate reaction with a radical solution to the problem through the ostentatious thesis that we are not fooled by provocations. Well, like, the enemy wants us to start woolling - but we saw through it and won’t wool where necessary. Let them bite their elbows because it didn’t work out.

    Unfortunately, I am more than sure that there will be no serious progress in limiting migration in quantitative and qualitative terms. To do this, we need to go beyond the perception of things in the “friendship of peoples” style and move into the field of pragmatic-aesthetic perception of how everything should be inside this country. Apparently there have been problems with aesthetics for a long time, because citizenship is being distributed in batches to a variety of people, who are absolutely not close culturally or religiously, with a different mentality and, often, without useful skills or satisfactory knowledge of the language. I think that despite the large amount of noise in the direction, after some time everything will calm down and remain as it is.
    1. ada
      +2
      27 March 2024 19: 34
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      ... We have already voiced a position roughly containing “this is an attempt by external forces to destabilize the Russian interethnic space.” ...

      Greetings!
      Unfortunately, this is not only a position, it is a harsh reality. Well-prepared measures to incite interethnic, interfaith hatred and social disunity as factors influencing the internal situation in our country and near abroad in military planning are currently assessed as guaranteed, that is, the presence (existence) and escalation potential of these factors corresponds to what is planned in the task .
      I believe that the build-up of escalation by NATO forces, mainly the United States and the World Bank in the ETTD will continue, and through the proximal structures of Ukraine it will be significantly increased. As a result, we will be faced with a wide range of pre-prepared open actions to destabilize the situation of civil society within the country and compromise government structures, open sabotage and terrorist attacks, mass sabotage, as well as distant manifestations of hidden influences with a long latent period in the form of conspiracies, murders of DL, uprisings and attacks on the UGV, armed forces, warehouses, enterprises, transport systems and a number of other destabilizing phenomena using the population.
      If the trend continues to be traced, then a number of signs of the use of previously prepared NATO plans will accumulate and it will probably become possible to determine which particular pre-war period is currently underway.
      1. +2
        27 March 2024 19: 54
        Here I did not raise the topic of objective or biased threats - this is the topic of controllability of our reaction by external forces. You may remember an episode from “The Tales of Uncle Remus”, where one of the fairy tale characters, it seems the Fox, in order to get what he wants from those who caught him, begs them to do anything with him, just not throw him into the thorn bushes. As a result, he achieves exactly what he wanted to achieve, just by formulating it in the right way.
        Here, in our case, we are also often controlled and the West uses this - it presents something with an anti-case embedded inside so that we stupidly CANNOT accept it and would stupidly work in the direction of manipulation.
        Now I have no idea whose ears are really sticking out behind Crocus, but I’m afraid that here we will again work in the direction of manipulation - namely, we will strenuously portray that “everything is normal, everything is under control, we are united and no one will correct the course because this means to bend under direct manipulation." But, inside direct manipulation, there may be a built-in one - the purpose of which is to achieve the opposite. Namely, consolidating the taboo of the topic of changes in migration policy and further ignoring the actual state of affairs and the attitude of society on the part of the authorities. At one time before Hitler, the term “eugenics” and the ideas that included it were perceived normally by society because there was an understanding of the need for selective practices to improve the population. Contemporaries did not perceive this as something immoral and, in general, did not have an “evil root.” However, then Hitler and his Nazi cronies came and denigrated this term as well. The content of the idea has not changed, but due to associative connections this set of ideas has become taboo. Using similar principles, you can control public opinion and manipulate the masses by forming associative connections, bringing ideas to the point of absurdity and fitting it into a loud story, to which further research will appeal. I am afraid that raising the issue of tightening migration policy will be connected instead of the practical plane of “useful-not useful, necessary-not necessary” precisely with the plane of high-profile incidents, and people responsible for making decisions will be able to use trump cards of principle where these trump cards are inappropriate and need to be decided based on that uncontrolled migration is a vicious practice that does not contribute to attracting the best people from outside to society.
        1. ada
          +2
          27 March 2024 20: 20
          Thanks for the reply.
          Yes, I immediately understood your idea, but the answer with the explanation is very useful and the concern is understandable - I share it.
          Regarding a terrorist attack, there is no point in looking for “ears”; in this direction, several services from different countries are working simultaneously in parallel and 100% without working communication, not one, but the other, the management acts according to a single plan, and who exactly is needed only by specialists. The NATO plan is 100%, old, from the 90s or 10s, patched up and attached to whoever came along, maybe updated when Lukashenko was picked - maximum.
  41. +4
    27 March 2024 20: 46
    Quote: Vlad Baryatinsky
    This is what I mean. Today Al Jazeera, the BBC, and the Dutch media announced the numbers.
    38 people died from gunshots. 41 people died from stabs and other injuries.
    They wonder, what about the rest? In this case, there is a reference to the officialdom of the Russian Federation.
    On the Internet, they are playing a video from the “wilayat of Khorasan” that these... have taken responsibility.
    Moreover, NOBODY comments that when exclamating ALLAH Akbar, a Muslim does not raise his left hand with the index finger up (Muslims consider it haram. You should raise your right hand. Muslims will not let you lie). In general, there are more than enough oddities. This is Friday, a holy day for Muslims, an absolutely disastrous retreat plan, retreat in a group, the color of the car, they stupidly rush 400 km to the territory where the SVO is being held, and also, why the hell take rubles when you’re heading to Hochland. It is more expedient to buy hevriki or bucks or, at worst, hryvnia. As is known during the tragedy, the faces of the barmalei are blurred and their voices are changed. And the cherry, as they say. The AI ​​conducted a study of footage from the scene of the tragedy and persons detained after the tragedy and made an analysis based on anthropological data of body structures and figures. Total DISCONFORMITY. ISIS members always accompany their actions with praises to ALLAH. These... mumbled something once or twice. Not many connections.

    Is this the kind of training manual Ukrainians have now? AI was even brought in for “authority of opinion.” Have your village blockheads turned into fakihs? Did you raise the wrong hand? Yes, they were in a rush with a machine gun in their right hand and weren’t even going to think about what kind of hand they had! And everything else is the level of a grandma that the military registration and enlistment office was sent to burn. here comes the ridiculous flight in the same car towards Ukraine. They simply have nothing to think about. And it is unlikely that they would have been left alive on the other side. A bath of lime and a hole in the donation would be waiting for them. Where do you get these from?
  42. +2
    27 March 2024 21: 15
    It is difficult and ambiguous to analyze what happened and draw the right conclusions, especially focusing on “... the result of a failed migration policy,” as the respected Viktor Biryukov writes... Let's “dance from the stove” - it will be logical and a cause-and-effect relationship will be visible.... We, for more than 25 years, have been “cooking in the cauldron” of capitalist views, concepts, definitions and preferences, for the sake of our native capitalist state. We have been “broken over the knee” for more than 25 years, instilling in everyone and everything that we are at the head of everything. and everything costs money, money and, once again, money.... With money you are a respected person in society, but without it you are a “loser” and “Scathophagidae” (“dung fly” is the biological name)... How you became rich, and therefore successful, was of no interest to anyone, even at the very top.... Everything was at your feet - career growth in the state. structures, media, politics, necessary “connections” and all the joys of life... You were given a “handshake”, we are accepted in any office, and where the doors were opened, with difficulty, they were “opened” by your money and your “connections” - and all THIS was literally a year or two ago... The migration “policy” was the same, at all its levels of management and control... It (this policy) was and is, until today, a good “long-term” highly profitable business, which, in certain areas, is comparable to drug trafficking and prostitution... It is from this “stove” that one must dance, and given the fallen level of education, culture and the complete lack of ideological education, including a complete “disconnection”, the majority of Russian society, in the brain, over many years of capitalist re-education, has the concepts of “conscience”, “ duty", honor", "honesty" "decency", "modesty", "not leavened patriotism" and from this "angle" to consider everything that happened and migration policy as a whole.... In itself, the migration policy was conceived competently, on a multi-level basis, but was “given” under the control and management of it, not entirely decent, thieving and greedy “controllers”, who, over many years of outright lawlessness and connivance, on the part of those who should was to “keep an eye” on the “steers” of this policy, their lobbyists, in the power structures, they turned a necessary, especially now, BUSINESS into a “feeding trough”, in which, due to lack of control and connivance, various kinds of fraternities, ethnic PGs appeared, and so on and so forth .Recipes, depending on the current state of affairs, are few: 1. To establish control over migration policy, taking as a basis its implementation, at least the migration policy and migration laws of the UAE... 2. Start to engage, at the state level, in the ideological education of the current Russian citizen. 3. Think seriously about changing the “vector” of socio-economic development of Russia... In the current “paradigm” of Russia’s existence, the situation on the migration “front” will only get worse and go “deep underground” with unpredictable consequences... And migration policy and Viktor Biryukov, again, will puzzle us with “Stalinist” questions (dear I.V.
  43. +1
    27 March 2024 21: 28
    I read this article and felt like I had read an article from the Western press about the lack of democracy, bad Putin, bad Russian people. And I just want to say, finally take off your pith helmet in your Garden of Eden and look at the problem objectively. Migrants go to work in hard jobs , often this is a construction site, they live in crowded trailers, they work in places where basic conditions are lacking, labor is poorly organized, in isolation from the family. Going through the damn cloud of bureaucratic permits, I went through it myself - I know. It’s not the most cultural strata of society that come to you, often from remote villages where work is poor. Is the author ready to provide better working conditions in order to lure the Russian Vanya to such a “sinecure”. And yes, I would like to say that the republics of Central Asia are developing, there is production, infrastructure, culture, engineers, intelligentsia, salary levels , the unemployment rate is not as high as many people think.. As a Russian resident of Uzbekistan, it is often funny for me to read about how we were oppressed, how we were killed, and how we abandoned our apartments to escape medieval chocks. To be honest, having lived in Uzbekistan for 40 years, I have never heard a bad word in my address, the language issue did not arise. We always found common ground with the indigenous population both in life and in work. And like a bad dream I remember the time when I decided to return to my historical homeland. I have never seen so much rudeness, bureaucracy, a basic lack of humanity and empathy and I hope I will never see you again. It doesn’t surprise you that 30 years after the collapse of the Union, millions of Russian people remained in the CIS countries, that Russia never found the strength to overcome bureaucratic arbitrariness, and that it doesn’t surprise you to create a program for the return of compatriots that would actually work that in the Baltic countries there are also a lot of Russian-speaking people left, who for some reason prefer to live subject to “discrimination” and are in no hurry to return to Russia. It is not surprising that so many Russian-speaking people are fighting for Ukraine. There is a feeling that the author lives in his own little world and is building projects that no one will ever comply, but will do it in a way that is beneficial for the wallets of officials and employers. It is profitable for Russia to import migrants from Central Asia, but the fact that elements of their mentality often leak out with them is, so to speak, a cost of the process.
  44. +1
    28 March 2024 10: 19
    There is an urgent need to introduce restrictive measures into migration policy. Hundreds of thousands of migrants were brought in under the guise of returning compatriots, essentially by deception. Add to this their influence on law enforcement agencies, diasporas and representative offices, we get a dangerous situation. The Ministry of Internal Affairs does not work well in this direction, erase it, one of the terrorists from Crocus, while drunk, almost ran over a woman with a dog in the yard of her own house, insulted her and threatened her with violence. She contacted the police - no result. The second one lived in a rubber apartment - no results either. It has already reached the point of threats to police officers and local authorities. If you do not urgently introduce a visa regime, ban the import and legalization of migrant families in Russia, review issued citizenships and punish the guilty officials for this, very bad events may occur in the country.
  45. -1
    28 March 2024 21: 41
    Point 2 should be supplemented by persons who do not speak Russian.
  46. +1
    30 March 2024 04: 32
    The question is multi-level:
    1. Russia has lost and almost does not work through teaching the Russian language and getting to know Russia in the national. republics, locally
    2. People who are believers will seek faith. And here, there should be work through Muslim organizations in Russia, which should help in the national. republics to develop and support true Islam
    3. There should still be economic security for emigrants. There are many people from the national republics in the country who stand on the roads and near shops in Russia in search of work. It’s still not clear who they are coming to and where they will work.
    4. Attempts to regulate migration flows lead to the creation of even more corruption schemes. Initially, it is clear that people come mainly from villages, where, God willing, they were taught their literacy.
    5. There is no public or parliamentary control over the migration service, and prosecutorial control is weak.
    6. A system of prestige for those working in Russia should be created in Russia.
  47. +1
    31 March 2024 19: 46
    Who will answer my question? Why do we need migrants? Raise money easily and betray your fellow citizens?