Who is killing the historical buildings of the flight school in Lipetsk and why?

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Who is killing the historical buildings of the flight school in Lipetsk and why?

- Zarina Nurmukhammedovna, which is correct: Chikalov or Chekalov?
- That's right - Chakalov, Alinochka!
- Where did these pilots live at that time?
- As expected, in winter - in Wintergreens, in the summer - in tents...
(Imaginary dialogue in an imaginary school in the city of Lipetsk in 2040)

Someone may not like this epigraph as an introduction, and if you can still argue with the first part of it, I agree, but as for the second part, this is exactly what can easily happen. Why? Yes, because there simply won’t be any evidence left. But more on this at the very end, because the topic unexpectedly turned out to be very complex.

I didn’t have time to really work out the Voronezh theme, almost simultaneously an SOS arrived from Lipetsk. A local historian, local historian and tour guide, Ivan Klimov (on the left in the photo), a real patriot of his city, who, moreover, knows how to look into the future, asked for help. And he doesn't really like it.




Lipetskaya aviation the school, opened in 1925, is gradually being killed. They are simply demolishing one building after another. The buildings where Valery Chkalov and Vasily Stalin lived and studied today are a nuisance to many.


In general, the city of Lipetsk is unique. It’s small and pleasant to look at, but the trouble is in it stories there was nothing supernatural or remarkable. An ordinary provincial town. And the aviation school, whose history began some time before German pilots came to Lipetsk to study, would be one of the historical attractions. Of which, frankly speaking, there are not so many in Lipetsk. To put it simply, they are worth their weight in gold, just like the people who left their mark on our history.


Monument "Wandering Lenin", for example

And now we have an aviation school, the buildings of which managed to fly outside the Lipetsk Aviation Training Center. The land plot was reduced, and the buildings ended up outside the fence of the aviation center, at the disposal of the city.

Well, the city began to give orders... From the heart. In general, the whole story must be analyzed separately, and this is not an easy matter, but for a general illustration I will say this: the fate of houses No. 31, No. 36, No. 38 and No. 40 on Ignatiev Street, which previously housed a German school, can serve as an example. In 2008, the buildings that had protected status were demolished.

How this could happen, one must ask the then head of the aviation center, General Kharchevsky, or better yet, even his deputies, against whom criminal cases were even opened in 2011 for fraud with money, but it is a fact: four houses that were transferred to the aviation center were demolished, and In their place, huge multi-storey buildings of the military type grew up. To date, the houses have not been completed, moreover, they have been partially stolen, but somehow no one really cares.


These are the buildings in the center of the photo.

As a result, we got this picture: the once unified complex, let’s call it the “old aviation school,” was very skillfully built up with new buildings and houses. Some of them have not been completed and, moreover, they are going to demolish them and build something else there.
But in general, the situation has turned out to be such that historical buildings are of no interest to anyone except those who want to build another residential complex there.

Then I was informed of the “program” of the mayor and governor, under which Lipetsk would not expand beyond the city boundaries. The population has been decreasing for the last ten years, so housing will be built as infill development. And Ignatiev and Tereshkova streets cannot be called outskirts today. 100 years ago there was a wilderness in which it was possible to calmly teach the Germans, but now it’s really the center of the city...

And now the bathhouse and laundry complex of the aviation school, which, according to local residents, worked normally as a bathhouse until recently, came into the developer’s sights. Neither historians, nor activists, nor local media representatives could answer the simple question of who sold house No. 33a on Ignatieva Street. It was bought by a certain entrepreneur; they claim that he bought it at an auction quite honestly for 33,7 million rubles.


If you look at this photo, it becomes clear that if you remove the unnecessary hundred-year-old bath and laundry complex, then two 20-story buildings will simply stand on this site. At least, these are the plans the locals told me.

But there is some kind of deception here. The fact that documents had already been submitted for the bath and laundry complex (BPC) to give it the status of a protected object with historical value, the mayor’s office could not help but know. But the property was put up for sale and sold. Was the buyer aware of the impending status? I think I knew, because subsequent events showed it.

As soon as the fence around the baths appeared, not only the keepers of history raised the alarm, but also local residents, to whom the appearance of two monsters on a piece of land did not seem like a smart decision. Ignatieva Street is not only narrow, but also blocked for traffic on one side. Well, there is a load on the networks, a huge number of cars in small yards, in general, the local residents were not at all interested in the idea.

And then information broke out that the object was about to receive protected status.

It is absolutely clear and understandable that the buyer is a sober person and understands that the city will not return the money for the BOD to him. That's not why they took it. And then he decided to make a decisive and quick offensive and cross the Rubicon. In the sense of quickly destroying the BOD.

This happened in Voronezh, the keepers of history fought for the complex of buildings of bakery No. 1, which survived the revolution and two wars, and as a result the plant was given the status of a protected object, but... three days before, on Friday evening, equipment came in and the bakery was demolished. All. To the historical brick. On Monday, couriers arrived with a threatening document, but there was nothing left to protect.


Apparently, the Lipetsk residents decided to do the same thing, but bad luck: the residents and activists turned out to be more active and stubborn. Yes, one fine night the equipment arrived and began to break it. But immediately there followed calls to the police and attempts to solve the problem on the spot with the help of a trivial massacre. Purely in Russian.

The buildings were damaged, but custodians say everything can be repaired. The owner eventually removed the equipment, the locals are still monitoring the situation, because they understand that the excavators can return at any moment.








Residents of this house stood up for the BOD

They say the Lipetsk prosecutor's office got involved. Let's see, an analysis of what happened from the point of view of the legality of the actions is simply necessary, because the violation is obvious: the building should not have been put up for sale until a decision was made to recognize the BOD as a historically valuable object.

That's the story.

It would seem, what’s wrong with the baths where the Germans washed their bodies?


But in fact, the story of the bathhouses and demolished houses is worth looking at, if not from an airplane flight, then at least from a bird’s eye view. Like on the map.

Until now, we had a certain complex of buildings that was about a century old or even a little more. The buildings are united by a common history, and could easily become an entire museum complex dedicated not only to aviation, but to that era as a whole. Moreover, much of it was built long before the aviation school; the buildings were simply repurposed.

Lipetsk is such a city that there is very little history there that would be interesting to people from the outside. There are practically no buildings left from the 19th century, not to mention those dating back to the founding of Lipetsk. And a complex of century-old buildings, closely connected with aviation, would be very appropriate for tourists to visit.

And, by the way, it is absolutely not necessary to place the main emphasis on training Germans. Yes, many of the school’s cadets later became senior officers and generals, but their careers, let’s say, did not take off after 1943.

Instead of dwelling on hypotheses about whether Goering was in Lipetsk and whether he had mistresses there, which is what the vast majority of those writing on this topic are doing, it would be worth just thinking about the fact that Goering really had nothing to study there. Goering could fly and was a World War I ace with 22 aircraft credited as shot down. So he really could teach at that school. But he never existed in Lipetsk.

Wouldn’t it be better to talk about Twice Hero of the Soviet Union, Colonel Vasily Sergeevich Efremov, a graduate of this aviation school, squadron commander of the 10th Guards Bomber Aviation Regiment?


343 sorties (think about it!!!), 32 aircraft destroyed and 4 shot down. Efremov was an excellent pilot and specialized in enemy airfields, hence the number of destroyed aircraft. Yes, on the ground. His Pe-2 bombs. And four particularly smart Germans were shot down by his shooters. This is, excuse me, three squadrons!

And such pilots passed through Lipetsk... 3 Twice Heroes of the Soviet Union, 29 Heroes of the Soviet Union, then came the Heroes of Russia...

During our walks, Ivan showed me to the balcony of a house that stood next to the fence of the modern aviation center. Then this house was on the territory of a military camp and Vasily Stalin lived in this apartment. An apartment where a towel is drying on the balcony.



In the entrance itself everything is almost like in those days, probably


And the name of Valery Chkalov is also associated with the aviation school.

And in these buildings there would be a place for one of the greatest pilots of the last century, Mikhail Vasilyevich Vodopyanov.


He did not study at the Lipetsk school, but he was born in the village of Bolshie Studenki, where Lipetsk now stands.

In general, if you don’t pretend that you want to preserve history and increase knowledge about great ancestors, then Lipetsk could simply become the most interesting place in the memory of aviation, since so many air corridors converge here...

But no, Lipetsk mayors are much more interested in the jackpot that they will get from the construction of the next human settlements. This is much more profitable, since museums, history and tourists are tomorrow for the city, and money in your personal pocket is now. Everything is transparent and understandable.

Now I will show you what remains of the aviation school where pilots were trained



The dormitory building is now moved outside the military camp


The workshop building is located on the territory of a garage cooperative and is used as a utility unit


A hangar (the blocked gate is visible) with workshops. By the way, the upcoming residential complex, the third phase of which will demolish these buildings, is clearly visible.



Former aviation school headquarters. The building was on fire and was extinguished. It stands and awaits demolition because it interferes with construction. And by the way - 19th century.



And finally, the educational building. Abandoned, ruined, no one needs him. Although from the outside it looks fine. Not yet.



By the way - stove heating! And on the right you can see the only building that can still live without danger. The administrative building, which was lucky to be on the territory of the aviation center.

Well, there is another building, an old casino. There is now a dispensary there, they weren’t allowed to rent the building, they started yelling that they had a military district and couldn’t rent.

Lately I don’t understand a little on the basis on which Russian officials are going to carry out the president’s orders. The complete impression is that they are deaf, Putin hammers away at the same thing year after year with the tenacity of a woodpecker, expresses dissatisfaction, but here, excuse me, water off a duck’s back is like styrofoam to axes. Victory a couple of weeks before May 9th - and then we calmly roll out our dough to the envy of everyone. Like this one, also an abandoned high-rise building.


And then surprise bordering on panic, why is it that our young people don’t have patriotism? Why is she going to storm Verkhniy Lars instead of Avdeevka?

Yes, that’s all because gentlemen city officials, instead of preserving history, are destroying it and building residential complexes on the ruins. And by and large, they all wanted to give a damn about this story. The main thing is to make the report look nicer and send it to Moscow. And then “whack-whack”, we are creating a bright future for ourselves.

And they are still sawing at full speed the complete disbelief on the part of those who, not even tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, will have to defend the country. But this will only happen the day after tomorrow, and today it is possible to demolish very strong historical buildings and build residential complexes in their place. Which then, if something happens, will quickly become empty. But today’s officials in Lipetsk don’t care about this.

If Lipetsk were an isolated example... We were just talking about Voronezh, then there will be some other city... The general trend in Russia is the same - what is the story when you need to make money? Moreover, quickly, while there is still somewhere to escape if something happens.

And despite the fact that the prosecutor’s office became involved in the bathhouse case, concerned residents sent statements to all authorities, there is no confidence that the buildings of the former aviation school will survive the battle with residential complexes. They, the buildings, are still very strong, but what can you do if the land on which they stand is more interesting than the whole history?

Call on the city authorities of Lipetsk to stop this cultureless obscurantism? Let's try.


Maybe the mayor of Lipetsk, Mrs. Uvarkina, will be able to understand what is happening in the city and what fruits it will bring in the future? The chance may be tiny, but it is there.
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  1. +21
    10 March 2024 04: 07
    Unfortunately, behind the beautiful external screen of youth festivals and other expensive gatherings, we forget about such a heritage.
    1. +18
      10 March 2024 05: 34
      The general trend in Russia is the same - what is the story when you need to make money?
      And the most important thing is to raise ignoramuses, there is no place to teach....
      1. +12
        10 March 2024 07: 22
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        There's nowhere to teach anymore...

        I would tell no one...
      2. +11
        10 March 2024 12: 11
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        And the most important thing is to raise ignoramuses, there is no place to teach....

        This is the trend throughout the country. In Nizhny Tagil, the communications training center was destroyed two years ago, although this unit on Vyya had a history of more than a century. I went there already at the time of demolition, looked at my place of work - it was offensive to the point of tears.
        1. +12
          10 March 2024 13: 12
          The building of the RTO of the Nevelskaya Marinekhodka. Demolished....
  2. +9
    10 March 2024 05: 54
    As always, we don’t keep what we have, and when we lose it, we cry.....
    1. +7
      10 March 2024 09: 57
      No, eh. Corruption ate Lipetsk!!!
  3. +12
    10 March 2024 05: 56
    And finally, the educational building. Abandoned, ruined, no one needs
    Even Goering gave the order to the Luftwaffe not to bomb Lipetsk! But, unfortunately, we ourselves destroy everything with our own hands.
  4. +14
    10 March 2024 05: 58
    Unfortunately, all this is not happening in Lipetsk alone. In our ancient Yaroslavl... a similar picture. In the area where we live (Krasnoperekopsky) there is the Krasny Perekop factory (former weaving factory of the Korzinkins). there was a celebration - ANNIVERSARY - 2022 years! There was a colorful wall with beautiful pictures...history. BUT...in fact, the factory does not work for its intended purpose. The new owners use the cases for completely different purposes... including for the process of packaging any products. Next to us, one of the surviving residential buildings of a factory village is being restored...for TWENTY years already! Valentina Tereshkova worked at the factory before her flight into space. Later, a hardware store was opened next to the factory and named VALENTINA in honor of our countrywoman’s flight! It was a famous store...it had EVERYTHING! And just recently...the sign was removed, reconstruction...and another food "Magnit" appeared. Opposite they moved the surviving part of the hardware store...now it is called "Valentinka"...shame on our fellow countrymen...but what about the memory of our CHAIKA???
    Opposite the factory was the famous LABAZ. A grocery store built for factory workers before the revolution. Even in the difficult 90s, you could still buy some things there WITHOUT COUPONS. And they... covered it up! The renovation is underway...we are waiting for some “pleasant” surprise...
    This is an example only from our area. But there are worse examples. Once upon a time, the YAZTA plant thundered throughout the country... I had to work a little on the fuel. In the workshops there was imported equipment, military representatives... fuel equipment was produced for the whole country... Now there are no workshops... no club for the recreation of plant workers... no recreation center. Everything has been demolished...the Dynasty high-rises stand! That's the whole story... with HISTORY!
    1. +8
      10 March 2024 08: 55
      Is this the one who called for the retirement age to be increased and reset to zero for some people?
    2. +5
      10 March 2024 10: 32
      This was all done with the connivance of “your Chaika”, who has been sitting in a cozy deputy chair for who knows how long, now, eat - don’t get wet and don’t whine.
    3. +5
      10 March 2024 15: 18
      No offense. So she is a valentine, nothing to do with history. At least take a moment)).
  5. +30
    10 March 2024 06: 58
    To whom do you remember the history of the USSR? Whose attention do you want to draw to the Soviet historical heritage?
    Yes, they all shake at the mere memory of the Soviet Union, of socialism. That is why they destroy, paint over, rename, drape... It is important for them to build a pantheon for the destroyer of the state and scream at all corners about a happy life...
    They destroyed the Soviet system in order to engage in speculation (buy low, sell high). They were not taught the rest. That is why they are afraid that the time for social justice may return. It is for this purpose that they dilute the state-forming nation with a rabble of migrants who have neither history nor writing, but communicate using a mobile phone or typing several dozen memorized words.
    * * *
    Let's say again what they are like... Wow!!!
    1. +3
      10 March 2024 15: 22
      Everything is correct, they only taught to destroy and sell, the hucksters (sorry...businessmen) used to imprison and shoot, now they are respected faces (oh...faces).
    2. +1
      11 March 2024 00: 16
      They are shouting about the threat to Mother Russia (in their Russian world) from the collective West, from which the current bourgeois government has allegedly been trying to protect the Russian state and all citizens for more than 30 years, without sparing its belly and head. They even call “themselves” the successors of both the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union, and Russian civilization. In reality, in which the post-Soviet Russian “elite” lives and lives, everything is exactly the opposite. Even the Euro-Reich could not inflict such damage, and literally in everything. So maybe it’s time to carry out not only the denazification of Ukraine, but also the Russian government from top to bottom. Otherwise, there is no point in conducting a Special Military Operation!
  6. +9
    10 March 2024 07: 33
    It’s a similar story in Moscow; old houses in Northern Tushino are being demolished.
    In general, PIK is now disfiguring the appearance of Moscow with its faceless boxes.
  7. +12
    10 March 2024 07: 38
    Moscow. Lyublino. There was a Museum of the Industrial Age. But essentially the Soviet period. They demolished it, although there was no such need.
    1. +11
      10 March 2024 08: 08
      Quote: Gardamir
      There was a Museum of the Industrial Age. But essentially the Soviet period. They demolished it, although there was no such need.

      That’s why they demolished it because the word “Soviet” does not fit into the era of “managers”. Comparisons begin not in favor of the latter. And they will start comparing....wow what they can get to. And return everything back.
    2. +11
      10 March 2024 08: 27
      Moscow. Lyublino. There was a Museum of the Industrial Age. But essentially the Soviet period. They demolished it, although there was no such need.
      There was a direct need for demolition - this is the story of the “Kravavago Savetsky Regime”, where everything was built by the hands of prisoners from the Gulag. And now democracy. There is no place for such bloody remains as ZIL and the Volgograd Tractor Plant.
  8. +6
    10 March 2024 07: 59
    With such detailed stories and demonstrations, let’s walk through the ghost factories in the LPR and DPR, “privatized” after the collapse of the USSR and now happily stolen and destroyed by gangs of marauding scrap metal workers acting on behalf and on behalf of the “owners” sitting in Ukraine and in Europe where they bought themselves real estate through the sale of the property of these enterprises. Judging by what is happening here, the relevant authorities have completely withdrawn from any kind of control over the situation, acting on the principle of whack-a-mole.
  9. +2
    10 March 2024 08: 25
    The key to solving this problem, as well as others, lies in solving educational problems. While the Unified State Exam rules, there is no point in achieving anything.
    1. +9
      10 March 2024 08: 55
      Quote: nesoglasen
      The key to solving this problem, as well as others, lies in solving educational problems. While the Unified State Exam rules

      From 1991 to 2008 there was no Unified State Exam...
      The “key” lies a little further... as long as there are classes of “celestials” and powerless “those who do not fit into the market,” nothing will change.
    2. +2
      10 March 2024 14: 59
      How can the Unified State Exam rule? But those in the Kremlin and on the embankment in Moscow still rule! Where is the root cause?
  10. +5
    10 March 2024 08: 35
    In our kingdom-state, crime performs the functions of power, and power performs the functions of crime.
    Nothing surprising. To me, as a resident of Lipetsk with 25 years of experience, everything that happens seems familiar and ordinary.
    1. +1
      10 March 2024 17: 06
      Greetings fellow countryman.
      Our city has been having less and less luck with the authorities lately.
  11. +8
    10 March 2024 08: 40
    Maybe the mayor of Lipetsk, Mrs. Uvarkina, will be able to understand what is happening in the city and what fruits it will bring in the future?

    Looking at her photo, you understand that she is far from interested in the history of Lipetsk. request
  12. +1
    10 March 2024 08: 49
    Russia is a great country with an unpredictable past."
    (M. Zadornov, 1997)
  13. +1
    10 March 2024 09: 06
    who put this young shoot in charge of the city??
  14. BAI
    0
    10 March 2024 09: 07
    These old buildings are not occupied anyway. In any case, they need to be demolished, and in their place a modern technical and educational base for the school should be built. If these barracks are related to the educational process in the school, it’s a shame
    1. 0
      10 March 2024 17: 59
      Okay, let’s say it’s demolished, BUT, no one will build schools. Humane people are our fse. Samara has the same parsley.
    2. 0
      10 March 2024 21: 47
      Quote: BAI
      in their place to build a modern technical and educational base for the school. If these barracks are related to the educational process in the school, it’s a shame


      Well, at the moment they have nothing to do with the aviation center; they are not even on its territory. However, they certainly have historical value in training military pilots, as discussed in the article. The only building located on the territory of the aviation center is the Administrative building of the Lipetsk flight school
      ! And on the right you can see the only building that can still live without danger. The administrative building, which was lucky to be on the territory of the aviation center.
  15. +5
    10 March 2024 09: 10
    So I have a big question. How does the “revival of Russia” and “rising from its knees” combine with the accelerated masturbation of the indigenous Russian population and the “decommunization” of history, almost according to the patterns of one neighboring non-country? How so?
    1. +1
      10 March 2024 20: 59
      I have a simple answer to you - and here and there at the helm - ONE FIELD OF BERRIES! Only the ideals are a little different - there is Bandera, Shukhevych, the Galicia division, here - Nicholas II, Mannerheim, Kolchak! Even the modern prosecutor’s office refused to rehabilitate the latter - the “ideal” had shed too much blood! But he was awarded the film “Admiral” - as wretched as today’s Russian “cinema art”!
  16. 0
    10 March 2024 10: 34
    The last photo is clearly a typical member of the “eat Russia” party...
  17. +2
    10 March 2024 10: 43
    I agree that Lipetsk is generally a strange city, in terms of the authorities. The mayor has been busy with a bunch of projects, but not a single one has been brought to fruition, the huge territory of the former tractor plant is a place for filming action films and apocalypse scenes, constant problems with pipes in all areas of the city, lack of understanding and contacts with the management of NLMK, and this is by no means huge amount of money in the budget and much, much more... Just reports
    1. 0
      10 March 2024 17: 04
      What does NLMK management want?
      Or how does he want to help the city, but the mayor’s office is preventing them from doing so?
      1. 0
        10 March 2024 17: 10
        NLMK pays only a fraction of what it could pay in taxes. When the new governor arrived, the relationship immediately did not work out, there were again several re-registrations of the legal entity and in the end Lisin paid as an individual and the plant partially to the budget of the city and region.
        1. 0
          10 March 2024 18: 18
          Don't agree on the price?
          You might think Lisin was ready to sell his collection of Kasli castings for the sake of the city...
          1. +1
            10 March 2024 18: 20
            He was going to do it, he wasn’t going to do it, that’s his business, but the budget expenditures could have been different.
            But God bless him, the saddest things are the absolute unprofessionals in the mayor’s office and those around the governor.
            1. 0
              10 March 2024 18: 38
              I won’t say anything about the governor, but as for the mayor’s office, everything is 100%!
  18. +1
    10 March 2024 11: 04
    Who, who: those who, in St. Petersburg, wanted to give up the territory of the VMA, Baltic and Admiralty factories for development.
  19. +2
    10 March 2024 11: 16
    What is the strength in, brother? There is power in money.....
  20. 0
    10 March 2024 12: 18
    The question is twofold. If future Luftwaffe aces studied within these walls, they will also be constantly procrastinating.
    As an option - a good museum from scratch with the right content. But even then... wink
  21. +6
    10 March 2024 13: 26
    many people are mistaken here, and so is the article, trying to shame those who are building only shopping centers, office buildings and gas stations on the site of the historical Soviet heritage of factories, schools, libraries, cinemas. Those who destroy this are disgusted by everything Soviet, so they will not be ashamed, because they are the victorious and omnipotent bourgeois capitalists who have come to power. What shame could they have in front of history? We must also be glad that for now there are at least monuments to the Chkalovs, Gagarins, and Zhukovs... but the monument to Stalin and Dzerzhinsky bothered them just as much as the huge, mighty Soviet strategic factories, and that’s why they destroyed the factories and the monuments to the mighty Stalin and Dzerzhinsky was removed.
    What they did and what they are doing, where they looked at it and how the current communists in disguise look at it all, that’s who we should try to shame. After all, they have a whole large faction in power, in every city there are party organizations and party detachments, the leader has trained and rehearsed a formidable voice in front of the mirror... and the Soviet legacy is being further and more destroyed and destroyed every year.
  22. +2
    10 March 2024 14: 29
    Putin hammers away at the same thing year after year with the tenacity of a woodpecker, expressing dissatisfaction

    If you open a search on the Internet for “Grandma needs to be done,” you can find out a lot about our P. resident.
    The country and people are not mentioned there at all.
    Our government has a severe allergy to everything Soviet. Therefore, everything Soviet is destroyed under plausible pretexts.
  23. +3
    10 March 2024 14: 41
    When I communicate with former classmates who remained to work in the field of science, I always ask how much time is devoted to the “theory of value”. Maybe not in the name, but in essence. Usually the answer is in the style of “well... you understand...”.
    The tricky thing about value is that some people create it and others distribute it. However, there is a third type - those who simply appropriate it. We have the second type and the third merged. Therefore, we do not study value, so that it is not clear who appropriates and who creates. In the article, the author simply and clearly showed this difference.
    1. +1
      10 March 2024 16: 46
      Therefore, we do not study value, so that it is not clear who appropriates and who creates.
      Yes, you, my friend, are a troublemaker! You will also demand that Marx’s “Capital” be included in the university curriculum!
      1. +1
        10 March 2024 16: 58
        You will laugh, but at Moscow State University, grandfather Karl was given three classes in the 90s. Now it's about the same. I don’t understand how to master this entire mass in this time. After all, he wrote within the pan-European discussion and the next stages can only be understood by relying on him.
        1. 0
          10 March 2024 17: 11
          At Moscow State University, grandfather Karl was given three classes in the 90s.
          What faculty?
          1. +1
            10 March 2024 17: 57
            Now FGU MSU, state administration.
            1. 0
              10 March 2024 18: 00
              It’s clear, the understudy of “Pleshka”. It’s even more strange who allocated your hours there, none other than Red himself.
              1. +1
                10 March 2024 18: 07
                No, we were officially a base in this direction. And it was distributed, yes, it’s clear who, but check out the basis on which we ourselves were created. The Department of History of the CPSU was given to us
                1. -1
                  10 March 2024 18: 27
                  It’s clear, if there is no CPSU, there is no history. Although in reality it (her story) exists, and it is very interesting.
  24. 0
    10 March 2024 15: 28
    The school where Yu. A. Gagarin studied, in Orenburg
    1. +1
      10 March 2024 16: 42
      You have a building at Sovetskaya 1. But at Chelyuskintsev 17 this is the condition. They gave it to the Russian Orthodox Church and this is the result.
  25. +3
    10 March 2024 15: 34
    Looking at the aunt-mayor, it’s basically clear that she wants to live in Miami or at least in Zurich in retirement, but not in Lipetsk and their name is legion (((forget they managed to destroy the Union and build up Lipetsk with people and then populate the Russians as well as two fingers about haram
    1. +2
      10 March 2024 18: 23
      Well, she was not involved in the collapse of the union, she was small, but she was involved in the real creation in Lipetsk, all blah blah blah
  26. +1
    10 March 2024 17: 01
    Maybe the mayor of Lipetsk, Mrs. Uvarkina, will be able to understand what is happening in the city and what fruits it will bring in the future? The chance may be tiny, but it is there.

    Not a single CHANCE...
    "SUGAR QUEEN" was not staged for this purpose by the MAYOR.
    1. +1
      10 March 2024 18: 24
      No longer sugar, the sugar business was sold to Sükdeg, the trio acquired part of the land, potatoes and livestock, the rest was sold
      1. +1
        10 March 2024 18: 42
        Not sold for Three Rubles...
        I don’t like counting other people’s money, but I’ve always been interested in the question - How long did she “wash apples” until her “billionaire grandfather in Canada” died?
  27. 0
    10 March 2024 18: 29
    And this is true everywhere. The conscription officials of the 90s don’t care about History, the main thing is to cut the loot and give it to a superior. Well, the people will endure it, as was said in one movie about the 90s.
  28. 0
    10 March 2024 18: 40
    The next anniversary of the Great Victory is coming soon. A military parade will take place on Red Square. And again they will disguise it with plywood. It’s not the mausoleum they’re hiding, it’s something else...
  29. 0
    10 March 2024 18: 51
    Squeeze out everything you can reach now. The strategy is simple, fortunately, the requests of these people are banal and end somewhere around the golden toilet. And what do they care about old huts? It’s all wretchedness, it’s all outdated, it’s not suitable for presenting to management, and it doesn’t provide impressive numbers for placement on administration websites or in booklets. There is no pomp with which one can sell African postmodernism with newborn concrete and glass metropolises. And here the candy wrapper is catchy and, most importantly, branded – like everyone else’s.
  30. +3
    10 March 2024 19: 03
    In the rush of perestroika, we also “rebuilt” the consciousness of the Russian person, removing the historical component from it, replacing it with a consumer component, which “resulted” in the emergence, so to speak, of a “new formation” of the Russian person - the “Ivans who do not remember their kinship.” Perhaps the mayor of Lipetsk, Mrs. Uvarkina, is precisely from this “new formation”, and perhaps the corruption component has left its “imprint” on what is happening in Lipetsk... But then, this is up to the Prosecutor’s Office and the Investigative Committee...
  31. +3
    10 March 2024 19: 58
    Thanks to the author for the harsh assessments of the administrations, first of Voronezh, and today of Lipetsk! It becomes clear that regional officials either cannot keep track of everything, or do not want to do this, resting in comfortable armchairs and simply agreeing to all the tasks that the federal government sets for them.
  32. +1
    10 March 2024 20: 09
    Where does the author live? If not in Moscow, you want to spend a few days in a city where there are no ruined buildings, no monuments that even the locals have forgotten about, no garbage in the courtyards a kilometer from the Regional Administration. And where at night you can walk from the center for a couple of hours, then go to a liquor store where there is no alcohol, eat a sandwich, or even a hot dog with tea, and calmly return to the hotel. Again on foot. And sleep, like in childhood, until the sun shines on the walls.
  33. +2
    10 March 2024 20: 42
    Who is killing the historical buildings of the flight school in Lipetsk and why?


    for starters - ask our Defense Ministry - it spends colossal amounts of money “on patriotism” - so ask: where and why?
    Maybe the mayor of Lipetsk, Mrs. Uvarkina, will be able to understand


    there is nothing to understand - calloused, overworked lips... and nothing more!

    but they don’t need memory - it is
    we need
  34. 0
    10 March 2024 23: 58
    One plus for the Lipetsk phantomas (Artamonov) is his restraint regarding migrant workers. Otherwise, he and his retinue do all sorts of things.
  35. 0
    11 March 2024 10: 40
    If the building has no historical value, it will be demolished. Apparently he has no idea.
  36. 0
    11 March 2024 14: 21
    The buildings where Valery Chkalov and Vasily Stalin lived and studied today are a nuisance to many.

    As far as I know, Vasily Iosifovich Stalin studied at the Kachinsky Flight School, I cannot dispute everything else written in the article and I fully agree with all the main claims and wishes of the author.
  37. 0
    11 March 2024 15: 10
    Quote: hohol95
    Greetings fellow countryman.
    Our city has been having less and less luck with the authorities lately.

    Do you think other cities in the Russian Federation have more luck? The system is structured this way, as a number of authors have already said here. sad
    1. 0
      11 March 2024 17: 29
      Quote: hohol95
      Greetings fellow countryman.
      Our city has been having less and less luck with the authorities lately.

      Do you think other cities in the Russian Federation have more luck? The system is structured this way, as a number of authors have already said here. sad

      I see no reason for it to be different.
  38. 0
    11 March 2024 19: 25
    Why did they cling to this old thing? Well, we studied. You never know where you studied. Chkalov’s granddaughter doesn’t particularly favor her grandfather, but you are causing panic on behalf of someone else. How many great pilots studied at Kaczynski? And what? Did you leave him? Wherever you go, you can link a personality to history.
  39. 0
    12 March 2024 09: 46
    In my opinion, the question "who?" has a fairly simple answer: as the classic said - look for who benefits from it. The question “Why” - the answer is even simpler... To have time, excuse me, to make a HAP... Surely, it turned out that this school is located in a place that is too fat to leave everything as it is (sorry - it was)... At the time of construction it was far away outskirts, but the city has grown.