Military Review

"All the criminal case of a" military coup "in Russia rests on the provocation of the FSB"

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Son of Colonel Khabarov, suspected of preparing a rebellion, explains why his father is not guilty


"All the criminal case of a" military coup "in Russia rests on the provocation of the FSB"In Yekaterinburg, a loud, important and rather strange case, known as the “case of Colonel Khabarov”, is approaching the final. For years, the legendary Colonel Leonid Khabarov, the hero of Afghanistan, whose authority among officers and commanders is very high, could be jailed. His age is approaching seventy, he is sick. The state considers him a dangerous rebel who was going to overthrow the constitutional order through sabotage and murder. Znak.com talked with Leonid Khabarov’s son Dmitry (also a military officer). He is sure that his father was a victim of a provocation developed by FSB officers.

Help Znak.com. The legendary paratrooper Leonid Khabarov, who in recent years led the military department of the USTU, was detained in July 2011. The investigation suspects him of preparing a large-scale insurgency, which aims to overthrow the constitutional system of the Russian Federation. The colonel is accused under the articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation 279 (“Armed insurrection”), 222 (“Illegal storage and acquisition weapons and ammunition "), 205-1 (" Assistance for terrorist activities "), 228 (" Illegal acquisition and storage of narcotic or psychotropic substances "). In addition to Khabarov, other members of the alleged terrorist cell were detained - Alexander Yermakov (recognized insane), Viktor Kralin, Alexander Ladeyshchikov, Sergey Katnikov. Part of the case is based on the testimony of two more members of the "underground" - Oleg Gorbachev and Ivan Botnari. According to the son of Leonid Khabarov, it was the latter that played the main role in the whole stories.

- The state prosecutor called the punishment he requires from the court for your father, Leonid Khabarov. 11 years. How unexpected was this for you?

- It was unexpected, like so much else in this trial. I was shocked by the lack of professionalism of the public prosecutor. Without a twinge of conscience, he did not take into account any circumstances of the trial, re-read the decision on charges in the final of the trial. Although already in court many of the testimony of witnesses differed from the information contained in this ruling. There are so many important details on which the charge rests. Like how, to whom and when the bag in which allegedly contained the weapon was transferred. This bag is one of the main evidence of the charges. And in court the witnesses did not show that Leonid Vasilyevich had any relation to this bag. He physically could not bear it, since she weighed more than a hundred kilograms. But in the indictment there is nothing of this. The prosecutor simply did not notice.

- It turns out that you entered the trial with one picture, the court witnesses gave some important testimony, but they did not take into account and the picture did not change?

- Yes. Lawlessness is complete. The prosecutor showed his incompetence, to say the least.

“I read that the phrase“ unspecified circumstances ”is found in the 128 indictment. Are any of these circumstances cleared up?

- Read the first paragraph of the ruling on charges. You will all see: "In an unspecified result of a place under unknown circumstances, in collusion with such and other unidentified persons ...". It turns out that the investigation did not really establish anything.

- What sentence do you expect?

- I expect an acquittal sentence, because there can be no other. But considering how the FSB falsifies all this, and the prosecutor’s office supports them, there is less hope. We have already seen the mood in the judicial process: the petitions of the defense are satisfied by five percent, and the petitions of the prosecution - by ninety-five percent.

- In recent days, several materials have appeared in newspapers, which are based on “drains” from the investigating authorities. It contains information about what kind of atrocities the group planned to include as your father. But there are two important points. Firstly, as a rule, if on the eve of the completion of the process, the investigation begins to merge something in the media, this means that they are not completely confident in their position. Secondly, there I caught such notes of sympathy for your father: they say that he happened to be in this company. Although earlier he was spoken of as the leader of this “rebel group”.

- I look at this disgrace no longer from the side, but directly participating in it. One gets the feeling that they do not really understand how to put all this in one picture. Why grabbed my father? What to do with it, they did not know. They began to persuade through relatives, as in the case of Kralin (another accused in the case - Znak.com): give testimony, let him begin to speak. I met with the investigator here at the FSB, and with the investigator in Moscow, who heads the investigative team for Kvachkov. They also asked my father to start talking. But what to talk about? They grabbed the man, but they don’t know what to do with him. There is no audio, no video recording, no hint that he wanted to do something. I was told not to doubt that they have evidence. Before the end of the investigation, I tried to figure out what other evidence was there. When the investigation ended, it turned out that they had nothing. Only that which was in the decision to prosecute as an accused, nothing else appeared.

- So what evidence was the result of the investigation?

- Not at all. There is no evidence that testifies that Leonid Vasilievich was involved in all this. He did not have any conversations, did not participate in the meetings of these “underground workers”. Yes, he held rallies in support of Colonel Kvachkov. No one denies that these were legitimate meetings, agreed with the administration of the city of Yekaterinburg. At meetings, people approached him. Someone shook hands, someone talked, someone gave a leaflet to read, someone offered financial assistance. There were many people there, many of whom my father did not know. FSB officers came in on tinted cars and took pictures of everything. So I greeted you by the hand, you handed me a piece of paper, tomorrow they will say that I participated in a state insurrection. Such evidence they have.

- Let's see. If your father has nothing to do with it, then where did all this come from - the “Breaking Dawn” plan, implying the undermining of power lines, “shooting lists”, etc.?

- For me now the picture is clear. This group of people was attended by two people, Oleg Gorbachev and Ivan Botnari, who were commonplace provocateurs of the FSB. The results of the operational-search activity and audio recordings were demonstrated in court. From these records it was clear that they were made by Gorbachev and Botnari, who apparently carried recording devices on themselves. Beforehand, Gorbachev kept audio and even video recording. Botnari also collected information. From all the conversations we hear that Gorbachev constantly provokes Yermakov. It turns out that they not only recorded the conversations, but also themselves provoked Yermakov (the alleged leader of the “cell”, declared insane - Znak.com). And this “Breaking Dawn” plan was written by Gorbachev’s hand. They were provocateurs of the FSB, one hundred percent.

- That is, Colonel Khabarov has nothing to do with this plan?

“This is a piece of paper, it says“ The Plan “Breaking Dawn” includes ... ”From a military point of view, this is utter nonsense, illiteracy. But Gorbachev, in principle, has never been literate.

“Why is the plan nonsense?”

- This experienced military will never make such a plan. It does not clearly indicate who, what and when to do. The seizure of an object is accompanied by certain actions that military personnel must work out. There should be groups of capture, fire cover, the tactic itself should be worked out. This is not three, not five people. And there is nonsense, like: "Blow up power lines." Blew up, and then what? People sit without light. Well, well, in our life they sit without light. So what? They will make this power line in a day, no one even remembers.

- In the case of these two, Gorbachev and Botnari, passed as witnesses?

- Yes, they were not accused.

- In the case of the accused are also Yermakov, Kralin, Ladeyshchikov, Katnikov. As far as they are related to your father, what kind of people are these?

- Let's take it in order. Ladeyschikov Jr. He met his father already in the SIZO. They were not familiar before the arrest. Senior Ladeyshchikov said that he and his father met at the rally. How did you meet? Came up, said hello, as I already told you. Kralin met Leonid Vasilyevich also already in the SIZO.

- They were in the same cell?

- Not. Kralina there was pressed in the chamber. There are specific names of FSB officers who did this. Witnesses clearly say that Lieutenant Colonel Sidorenko was doing this, sorry for the expression, garbage, as he put the repeat offenders to press him. Inmates confirmed. Petrushkin, who was already supposed to be transplanted, spoke at the trial. He personally inclined Kralin to sign the paper so that nothing would be. He signed, and Petrushkin personally took Sidorenko. And then he was removed from there (from the camera).

- And Katnikov who is?

- Katnikov Sergey Borisovich met with his father a couple of times. Once at his home. They met at a rally, Leonid asked to set up Skype at home on the computer. I do not know why it was him, so it happened, probably. We have not discussed this issue, I will not say anything. The second time, everything got hooked on the transfer of weapons, but Katnikov said in court that the father did not give him the weapon. In one resolution we are talking about one meeting, in the other - two meetings. At trial, the question is confused. Katnikov did not know what question to answer, confirmed both those testimony and this.

- Katnikov is already convicted in the case?

- Yes, his case was passed in a special order, he admitted his guilt. He received six years probation and some amount of fine.

- That is, he made a deal with the investigation?

- You can find online documents of Katnikov, in which he wrote that he is under pressure, on his family. He sent these applications on a huge list, in 12-15 organizations (regional prosecutor's office, general, military prosecutor's office, FSB). There was no answer. At the last moment, he apparently had already broken down and testified. And then in court he had already said something completely different. These readings do not correspond to what is written by the investigator. This is some kind of fantasy, fiction, this is what the investigator wants to see. Witnesses, both from the defense and the prosecution, whom the investigator called and took testimony, said at the trial that they did not agree with this.

- And this Alexander Yermakov, who was originally called the "cell leader", what kind of person?

- A regular guy. Gorbachev and Botnari found the fool and dissolved him under the guidance of the glorious organization of the FSB. Specifically developed all Alexander Sidorenko. He carried out operational support, collected reports, analyzed the situation. Botnari and Gorbachev - decoy with his submission. The investigator on the basis of their materials wrote that it is not clear who, it is not clear where, in what place. And when Yermakov was declared insane, Khabarov became the leader of this “underground”. They go to one hundred percent falsification of everything.

- An important logical moment. Initially it was implied that Yermakov would be the leader of the whole group, then he turned out to be insane, the leader of the group had to make your father. It turns out that the case was not originally directed against your father.

- I do not know. Investigators said that they no longer have options on how to make my father a leader. They have no evidence, and they argued the opposite. Good poker bluff. I do not believe them, because I understood more than the situation themselves. The role of each is set to 99%. These two friends did not appear by chance. The wiretaps are dated by the beginning of the year. Nobody talks about the insurgency on the records except for Gorbachev himself.

- Suppose, Gorbachev and Botnari infiltrated the group and were provocateurs. What did the band actually do?

- I do not know. Leonid Vasilievich had nothing to do with this group. He never appeared in an office on Posadskaya Street, where they were based, never met with Yermakov. Maybe at a rally somewhere flippers shook each other, that's all. There is no wiretapping. But Botnari says he made the conclusions that Khabarov is the eldest. I could not answer, on the basis of which he drew such conclusions. Just said unfoundedly. All other conclusions come from the words of Yermakov. Again, we see that Yermakov was hiding behind other people, not just Khabarov. He is a combat swimmer, a fur seal, and a Special Forces soldier - a many-sided Janus.

- Do you think he's really crazy?

- I saw him only in handcuffs, brought him up. But I would not say. Does not look like a fool, to be honest. He served in the army, tried to serve, at least. Then he deserted from there, he was caught, he went to jail. There he was already declared irresponsible, sluggish schizophrenia, healed, he lived normally, did not touch anyone. Maybe there are people who are prone to this. It’s like bringing a match to gasoline and it will explode. Such people in bulk. You can play on patriotic feelings, dilute, provoke.

- One of the proofs is an arsenal of weapons that were seized from your father.

- No, my father did not seize any arsenal. Withdrawn a collection of cartridges. These are different-sized cartridges older than you and me together. For example, a cartridge for underwater shooting, twenty centimeters such, with a needle. Or a cartridge with Arabic script, with a poisoned tip, 40-th year. All one by one. This collection can be seen in photographs or video footage at the military department of UPI, where his father worked. They stood directly in front of him on the table. She saw everyone who came to his office. Then seized small-caliber cartridges, 5,6 mm. They used to be sold in stores. There was no money in 90-s, and they bought them on the faculty with officers for a shooting gallery for their money. Another firing pen was seized - launching lighting flares for the New Year. Knives still gift. A part was taken, and a part was left - where to drag it? And the rest was seized from the Ladeyshchikovs in the house on Lezginskaya. This is the same muddy story with a bag, which is not very clear how it appeared. There was one TNT block inside, two gas revolvers. Another pistol, similar to the PM and one rusty PM with a silencer. Perhaps shooting, I do not know for sure. From the whole arsenal there are two shooting pistols, a TNT block, an electric detonator. Another grenade - they also raise doubts, because it is not clear if these are training grenades or combat ones.

- Does your father have to do with this bag?

“He didn't even touch her.”

- In “Komsomolskaya Pravda” they also published “shooting lists” and “manuals on conducting acts of sabotage”. Is that where it came from, whose hand is written?

- Either Gorbachev or Botnarem. Specifically, Gorbachev proposed to undermine the synagogue in Yekaterinburg, lay a charge there, he admitted in court. My father did not figure this out. The prosecution concluded that it was trying to overthrow the constitutional order. It is evident that the prosecutor does not bother to understand the situation, does not strain himself. So many witnesses showed the absurdity of this situation, the falsification of the investigator, the pressure from UFSB officers on relatives, etc. Of the people also beat testimony. The houses were handcuffed in front of small children, forced to talk to Khabarov. Very dirty, incompetently worked.

- In the federal media, the story is mentioned in the context of the situation with Kvachkov. Did your father have a relationship with him?

- Yes, they are familiar. Kvachkov came to speak to the officers of the faculty about two years ago. Also at the faculty and Swan spoke, and Chernetsky - any figure. Never Leonid Vasilyevich did not distinguish between a political and non-political activist, gave all the word: and the "United Russia", and not the "United Russia". Free speech. The officers could not attend these meetings, it was optional. Leonid Vassilievich did not agitate for anyone: they listened, but draw your own conclusions.

- How did he feel about Kvachkov’s political ideas?

- I did not discuss this topic. Speech and delivered Kvachkov.

- Could you call your father a nationalist?

- Of course not. He has friends and Jews, and Muslims, and Ukrainians, and Tatars. Very many people treat him well. A multinational company that has never shared. His friend and colleague, Gennady Kunyavsky, who is now in defense of my father, is an absolute Jew. So what? He never betrayed such things.

- What is the Minin and Pozharsky people's militia? What kind of organization? Was your father in it?

- I will not say for sure. I know that Leonid Vasilyevich tried to engage in political activities within the framework of the movement of veterans of Afghanistan. He was thinking about which political structure to rely on. Discussed and "NOMP". Only it was necessary to understand the structure of this organization, whether it has cells, a grid for certain regions. If it is well represented in the Ural Federal District, then it was possible to work, try to choose a deputy from the Union of Veterans of Afghanistan, so that good ideas could be implemented in our laws.

- A version is being put forward that the case against your father could have been initiated by the Ministry of Defense, because he often criticized the state of the Russian army. How realistic is this?

- If we assume that Serdyukov at that time was part of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, and there were other high-ranking officials, including the head of the FSB, the Interior Ministry ... The Russian government, to put it mildly, is corrupt, and they could easily agree there. I do not exclude such a possibility.

- How did your father treat Serdyukov?

- It is extremely negative. And spoke out about it in public. He said bluntly: Serdyukov, through the collapse of the army, did more than the CIA in all his years. Serdyukov must be condemned as a war criminal. He did not hide it, I do not hide it. This and many of my colleagues do not hide.

- Serdyukov in disgrace. Has something changed in this business after the resignation?

- Who said he is in disgrace? For some reason, he is not sitting in the SIZO. And others in his case are decided to release under house arrest, and according to Leonid Vasilyevich, the question is not solved at all. To bring the army to the boiling point, and then throw the bones, it will be distracted for a while - this is what the “Serdyukov case” is. I think the investigation will drag on for years, then it will be forgotten and no longer remembered. Nothing has changed since the resignation. You can see for yourself that in a debate of the parties, the prosecutor requested 11 years of strict regime.

- It was reported that the case was supervised by people from the FSB of the capital. Is this business still connected with the local FSB administration?

- An investigative-operational group was created, there were employees from various FSB organizations, including two Muscovites at the initial stage. Then they left. Then local people worked and they put a lot of pressure on witnesses. I can understand the people who testified against my father. If such pressure is applied to an officer of the FSB and his family, he will also sign anything. I picked up 37 materials for interest when the NKVD troika in five days sentenced a man to death. Is very similar. Then, by the way, two years later, one employee from this “troika” received the highest measure, another 60 GULAG years. Let the current investigators remember this.

- How is your father's health? I know that he had been ill with bronchitis and pneumonia several times in the SIZO.

- Heart ache. Five steps will pass - begins to choke. 66 years.

- You can tell this story, what it really was, in your opinion?

- It's simple. Found two fools, Gorbachev and Botnari. Found another Ermakova, which is unbalanced and easy to manage. Someone wanted new titles. The case of non-ordinary - the overthrow of the constitutional order. If everything went to "cheers", then Sidorenko would get a colonel, a general, probably a prize, etc. They fabricated the case, but could not finish it. Well, what a military coup? If this plan, which appears in the case, was even slightly related to reality, would the arrest of my father two weeks before the start of the implementation of the “plan” stop something? Where are these hundreds, thousands of secret underground workers who were supposed to support the uprising? Why aren't any of them caught? The whole thing - fiction and stupidity.

Comment by Anna Lastovetskaya, press secretary of the UFSB for the Sverdlovsk region: “Until the court’s verdict, we do not enter into discussions and do not respond to criticism addressed to us in order not to exert pressure on judicial bodies. I know that there is a lot of criticism about this case, but we are not responding to it yet, but just honestly doing our work. ”
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  1. washi
    washi 2 February 2013 19: 16
    +6
    cooked up the case. on the one hand, it’s a minus - it’s a pity for men, and on the other hand, a plus - they are afraid that the military will organize and there will be Pinochet’s dictatorship.
    Pinochet is really well done. He shot everyone who spoke a lot and did little (in Russian speaking pi ..... balls), raised the economy and left ...
    1. Hauptmann emil
      Hauptmann emil 2 February 2013 19: 22
      23
      It would be better if they "cooked" objectively assessed the activities of the previous MO and its company. but not honored veterans pressed.
      1. Nechai
        Nechai 2 February 2013 20: 04
        14
        Bodies - an advanced armed detachment of the leading authority. How do you imagine them fulfilling your wishes? This is the security service of OFFICIALS, it protects and protects them ...
        1. military
          military 2 February 2013 21: 04
          +8
          Quote: Nechai
          This is the security service of OFFICIALS, it protects and protects them ...

          as in the dashing 90s ... brigadiers and torpedoes ... changed their image, but the essence remained ... recourse
        2. Andrey58
          Andrey58 2 February 2013 21: 12
          -2
          Bodies - an advanced armed detachment of the leading authority ... This is the security service of OFFICERS, It protects and protects them ...

          Well, say it in the eyes of those who freed the children in Beslan.
          1. Andrey58
            Andrey58 2 February 2013 23: 11
            -6
            As I understand it, it will be frustrating to say the negative. That's right, you can get the forum shoulder straps off in a tambourine.
            1. vezunchik
              vezunchik 3 February 2013 10: 10
              +2
              Not soon, but the people will recognize all the organizers and the Beslan and Budenovsk and the coup in 91 and the shooting of the White House and the Chechen wars ....
          2. s1н7т
            s1н7т 3 February 2013 00: 12
            +7
            Quote: Andrey58

            Well, say it in the eyes of those who freed the children in Beslan.

            Those who, in fact, admitted Beslan, Nord-Ost and many others. another.
            1. Misantrop
              Misantrop 3 February 2013 00: 38
              +6
              Quote: c1n7
              Those who, in fact, admitted Beslan, Nord-Ost and many others. another.

              And nothing, that these are absolutely DIFFERENT divisions? Or the main thing - to throw shit on the fan, and "God will cover his own"?
              1. s1н7т
                s1н7т 4 February 2013 01: 13
                0
                Misantrop,
                Different units of ONE FSB!
                The FSB as a whole sucks (they don’t let anything else pass) And there are plenty of examples of this! The fact that my comrades, who fought wherever possible, heroes and professionals in their field serve there, does not change the picture as a whole, alas!
        3. askort154
          askort154 3 February 2013 14: 19
          +1
          Quotation from Nechai .... OFFICIALS security service, They protect and protect them ...

          It was, is, and always will be. Power structures are the foundation of any state, no matter how they are called. The fact that they serve the interests of the fatherland and the people is no good for both them and the people. Any power holds the fiscal authorities and uses them only in their own interests. Attempts to "go against the grain" are severely punished. (the last example is General Rokhlin)
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 2 February 2013 20: 06
        +6
        “Until a court verdict, we do not enter into discussions and do not respond to criticism against us so as not to exert pressure on the judiciary. I know that there is a lot of criticism regarding this case, but we do not answer it yet, we just honestly do our work. ”
        - its final cost is interesting ....
      3. kosmos44
        kosmos44 3 February 2013 10: 07
        0
        Quote: Hauptmann Emil
        It would be better if they "cooked" objectively assessed the activities of the previous MO and its team. and not honored veterans were pressed.


        Something people are afraid of, state zakhrebetnikov, to criticize above the MO. Apparently MO we have a private shop and no one is standing above it. They stole, but no one knew! Apparently they have high fences and no cracks. Its own guards, its own protection. In short: - the "Horns and Hooves" cooperative.
      4. vezunchik
        vezunchik 3 February 2013 10: 07
        +2
        Do you really not understand what the government is afraid of? Lose her! Because without power you will have to answer for everything!
    2. YARY
      YARY 2 February 2013 21: 18
      19
      Vasya
      Vasya you Vasya!
      and on the other hand, a plus - they are afraid that the military will be organized and there will be Pinochet’s dictatorship.

      You are either delirious or still small. What the hell is the Pinochet dictatorship? !!! Get small!
      This is not true, if only according to the logic of things, I inform you that Pinochet shot the Socialist Allende, and spoke from the filing and money of SyShyA corporations! So shut up already.
      The second but not the least is that old military (even if they made a mistake by taking an oath to the enemies of the working people) spread rot everywhere and everywhere! It is worth them to be indignant and speak out though not publicly about the power.
      Such as Khabarov and Kvachkov, this applies especially to officers, heroes, authoritative in the military environment! Of course the bureaucrats played a point!

      All their trouble is that THE HOMELAND ALWAYS SHOULD BE ONE AS AN OATH. This is the price of faith in traitors who seized power.
      Khabarov is a martyr? Maybe it is so. The scoundrels in power have appointed him guilty, too true.
      How long can this be allowed?
      For them, the Khabarovs and Kvachkovs are traitors, and the SerDyukovs and MakKarovs are heroes!
      1. bask
        bask 2 February 2013 21: 21
        +5
        Quote: Ardent

        You are either delirious or still small. What the hell is the Pinochet dictatorship? !!! Get small!

        You speak the truth, YARY, TRUE ++++++++++ good
        1. YARY
          YARY 2 February 2013 21: 36
          +6
          We are so divided ..........



          El pueblo unido, jamas sera vencido

          One people never win!
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т 3 February 2013 00: 22
            -5
            Quote: Ardent
            One people never win!

            Aha, "United Russia", for example! laughing
            1. Ustas
              Ustas 3 February 2013 08: 43
              +7
              Quote: c1n7
              Aha, "United Russia", for example!

              Do not confuse the party of careerists and corrupt officials with the people of Russia!
              1. YARY
                YARY 3 February 2013 12: 50
                +2
                GENADIUS.
                It would be nice if everyone would suck it in with mother's milk.

                1. YARY
                  YARY 3 February 2013 13: 53
                  +2


                  angry angry soldier

                  And since we are all human beings,
                  we won’t let us hit our face with a boot!
                  No one will lift the whip on others
                  and he himself will not be a slave!

                  Left March - Two, Three
                  Left march - two, three!
                  Stand in the ranks, comrade, to us, -
                  you will enter our united working front
                  because you yourself are a worker!

                  And since we are all human beings,
                  we need shoes without patches,
                  and we will not be warmed by the crack of speeches
                  under the drum roll!


                  And since we are all human beings,
                  then we must - sorry! - there is something,
                  want to feed us empty chatter -
                  to hell! Thanks for the honor!


                  And if you are a worker
                  then don’t expect another to help us, -
                  we will gain freedom in battle
                  with your working hand!


                  Left march - two, three!
                  Left march - two, three!
                  Stand in the ranks, comrade, to us, -
                  you will enter our united working front
                  because you yourself are a worker!
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 3 February 2013 21: 10
            0
            Video test, but there are still links to the Spanish-language revolutionary songs?
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 2 February 2013 21: 50
          +4
          Quote: bask
          You say the truth
          Hello, land! Someone really needs to PR, just squeaks and trembles. Let Serdyuk and K bred ..
          1. YARY
            YARY 2 February 2013 21: 57
            +1
            Victor good evening and a happy holiday! drinks
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 2 February 2013 22: 01
              +2
              Quote: Ardent
              good evening and a happy holiday!

              And you, Andrey, all the best! Mutually drinks !!
            2. bask
              bask 3 February 2013 08: 32
              +2
              Quote: Ardent

              Victor good evening and a happy holiday!

              ,,, Freedom, or death ,,, VICTOR HARA, LIBERTADO O MUERTE ..... That the militants and Wahhabis destroyed everyone ???. As with the cases of war. The military awakens to ,, Security forces ,, Shoot in the back ,, ???
          2. bask
            bask 3 February 2013 08: 23
            +4
            Quote: Tersky
            you say hello, land! Someone really needs to PR, just squeaks and trembles. Serdyuk and K

            Hello Victor. Let anyone want to PR. But why should the Hero of Russia triple the court ... We want to curry favor with the amers and the OSCE.
      2. valokordin
        valokordin 2 February 2013 21: 38
        +3
        Ardent, under your influence, I become VIRTUAL. plus for you. Old helicopter pilot.
        1. bask
          bask 3 February 2013 08: 39
          +3
          Quote: valokordin

          Ardent, under your influence, I become VIRTUAL. you

          I’ve already become. Pinochet is the Amer six .60 thousand Chileichev was killed only in the 1st year of the coup. The death where it is unknown is buried, Dog the dog’s death, These are not our military officers.
      3. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 3 February 2013 00: 51
        +9
        The president, the FSB, the judges, the cops who escort the defendants and, in general, everyone who is not too lazy to read about what is written in the stye, knows. Everyone knows that this is a messy business, but the president said to put him in prison and everyone wiped himself off with their pride and fuss. And Serdyukov said - do not plant! So the whole "affair" is based not on the provocation of the FSB, but on cowardice or lack of honor and pride. Here's all the hell to a penny.
    3. valokordin
      valokordin 2 February 2013 21: 34
      +4
      Vasya, what kind of Augusto Pinochet are you, then Viktor Haru was killed and his fingers were crushed correctly, and that means our ally Pinochet, then your ally Yeltsin.
      1. YARY
        YARY 2 February 2013 21: 48
        +3
        Vladimir
        Quiet! Right now, Shabbat at "our smaller brothers" will end and you will also be pecked.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 2 February 2013 22: 13
          +4
          Quote: Ardent
          Quiet! Right now, Shabbat at "our smaller brothers" will end and you will also be pecked.

          Beaks stumble ... wink
  2. Andrey58
    Andrey58 2 February 2013 19: 27
    0
    - A version is being put forward that the case against your father could have been initiated by the Ministry of Defense, because he often criticized the state of the Russian army. How realistic is this?

    - If we assume that Serdyukov at that time was part of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, and there were other high-ranking officials, including the head of the FSB, the Interior Ministry ... The Russian government, to put it mildly, is corrupt, and they could easily agree there. I do not exclude such a possibility.

    What threat could he pose for Serdyukov? The levels are not comparable, IMHO. A provocation could very well have taken place, and yes, because of ranks and awards. But they hooked Khabarov most likely because he somehow participated in this provocation, voluntarily or involuntarily.
    For accusations under the 279th Criminal Code, just shaking hands at meetings is not enough. FSB officers are far from fools and are well aware that a case built on an outspoken linden will easily fall apart in court. And this, if we are talking about titles, no one needs.

    They also removed the firing pen - to launch lighting rockets for the New Year.

    Such things are usually made under a small caliber cartridge 5,6. If it shoots - definitely 222 of the Criminal Code.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 2 February 2013 20: 10
      13
      Quote: Andrey58
      FSBshniki are far from fools

      Excuse me, but if they are fabricating the case in this way, they are fools! The professionals were transferred. Only a complete stupid person could choose SUCH a person for a show case. But the fact that he probably said unpleasant things played a role. We decided to "preempt", otherwise such old people talk and talk, and then the young will follow them. And this is exactly what the same Serdyukov or his neighbors, or the same "high specialists" could be afraid of. Fear has big eyes.
      1. Andrey58
        Andrey58 2 February 2013 21: 23
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Excuse me, but if SO fabricate the case, then still fools!

        How they fabricate it neither me nor you know. There are the words of a son who, of course, claims that the folder is not to blame and has not lit up anywhere. But there is a thing. Moreover, according to a very serious article. To attract it you need something more substantial than the testimony of two people. So there is some kind of ace in the sleeve of the investigation.

        But the fact that he probably said hard-hitting things, and played a role. We decided to "preempt", otherwise such old people talk and talk, and then the young will follow them. And this is what they could have been afraid of, the same Serdyukov

        I strongly doubt that Serdyukov even knew about the existence of this man, not just about his conversations.
  3. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
    Mihaylo Tishayshiy 2 February 2013 19: 36
    +4
    The FSB has done a good job - the Schnicks, but the country has "stability" !!!
  4. Nicotine 7
    Nicotine 7 2 February 2013 19: 43
    +3
    Unfortunately, there will always be creatures that would defame a person.
  5. qx56v8
    qx56v8 2 February 2013 19: 52
    -1
    Is it SMT or not ???
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 2 February 2013 19: 58
      +1
      Spying?))))
      1. Armata
        Armata 3 February 2013 11: 16
        0
        Quote: Tupolev-95
        Spying?))))
        No afraid laughing
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 2 February 2013 20: 00
      +2
      Yes SMT .................
  6. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 2 February 2013 20: 00
    +5
    Found the enemy. It would be better if the evil were more actively caught.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 3 February 2013 00: 30
      +6
      Quote: Tupolev-95
      Found the enemy. It would be better if the evil were more actively caught.

      Myself, or what? laughing
  7. alexdol
    alexdol 2 February 2013 20: 09
    +6
    So much for "independent, honest" courts! Really honored people are JUDGED, and such as Serdyukov and K are CUTTING OUT! I already wrote about Serdyukov that his case is drawn to the state of treason! What is the result? And the judicial system we have is the same, everywhere ARRIVAL! I recently also had to face this system - no one wants to comply with the prescribed laws!
    The court's decision contains strange "opiski", a word nonsense, sealed with the seal "In the Name of Ukraine" !! Simply - a farce! Completely on the side of the author of the article!
    This article gives occasion to others once again to think about the essence of this POWER!
  8. sergo0000
    sergo0000 2 February 2013 20: 24
    22
    Good morning, Comrade Colonel!

    Dear Leonid Vasilievich!



    With all my heart, on my own behalf and on behalf of the readers of the Internet newspaper of veterans of the armed conflict in the Republic of Tajikistan "Soldier of Russia" I congratulate you on your 65th anniversary! Despite the difficult circumstances in which you are now, we wish you all the best, cheerful spirit, confidence in victory and the triumph of justice, and most importantly - good health! - in spite of the lies and slander that people without Honor and Conscience have erected on you.



    People clothed with temporary power, miserable in their existence and in their unprincipledness, did not understand the main thing: the main "plot" of your life has already been written - by your sweat and blood, your unparalleled service to the Fatherland and sincere love for the Motherland, your ability to be friends and willingness to give everything. " for your friends "! Whatever they now write in their government papers, all this will be just a small addition to your life, a stroke that testifies to how the whole state system, built on the basest qualities of its representatives - lies, has taken up arms against your honesty and your courage, cowardice, meanness and deceit.



    We are following with great excitement your fate, Leonid Vasilievich, we are praying for you, we are doing everything possible in this situation so that truth and justice will prevail against you! Supported and support you! Not betrayed and not betrayed!



    On this festive day, I would also like to wish good and honest people next to you in the current trial, so that even in the gray prison walls you could feel the respect of the people around you! Everything will be fine, we believe in it!



    Best regards, editor of the Internet newspaper "Soldier of Russia" Nikolay Shramko



    The administration of SIZO-1 "Yekaterinburg Central" informs you that letter 96223 was censored and handed over to the addressee on May 3, 2012.
    The administration of SIZO-1 "Yekaterinburg Central" informs you that a reply has been received to letter 96223. The letter can be found in the attachmentsoldatrossii.jimdo.com ›page of ... Khabarov
    /soldatrossii.jimdo.com› page ... Khabarova /
    1. Armata
      Armata 3 February 2013 11: 23
      0
      Well, who else after this believes in a great and fair GDP?
  9. Rossmk
    Rossmk 2 February 2013 20: 37
    0
    I have a dual reaction.
    On the one hand, Khabarov, a colonel, a hero of Afghanistan, with awards, an officer, and somehow it’s hard to believe that such a person could adjust something anti-state, but on the other hand ... what if he really planned something?
    Or maybe it's a matter of averting eyes? While the colonel was tried for allegedly conspiracy and everyone watched it, Taburetkin stole millions.
    1. Andrey58
      Andrey58 2 February 2013 21: 29
      +3
      Quote: RossMK
      While the colonel was tried for allegedly conspiracy and everyone watched it, Taburetkin stole millions.

      It is doubtful. Several thousand people know about this matter in Russia from their strength, and even less is traced. There is no noise in the media.
  10. sergo0000
    sergo0000 2 February 2013 20: 41
    15
    “SERVED NOT THE LEADERS, AND THE POWER ...”

    Answer of Leonid Vasilievich from the pre-trial detention center



    Hello Nikolai! Sorry, I don’t know your middle name. Thank you very much for the letter, for the congratulations.



    I am surprised that such a prickly letter was missed to such a particularly dangerous (for the regime) criminal. However, it would be better if you write me your mailing address.



    Good! As a rule, such letters were returned to the investigator without return. I suppose, for boomerang registration to the addressee. Either they waved my hand at me, as at a hopeless one, or decent and thinking people were caught.



    I comment on the lines of your letter about lies and slander in my and my comrades in social activities “case”. I believe that the slogan is “Lies must be monstrous in order to be believed in!” (Goering) - is the main method and principle of work of our FSB. Unfortunately, the Federal Security Service of the Russian people from the enemies of the State turned into the "Chubais" Security Service from the people of Russia. I am pleased to subscribe to your words: the state system is built on the most base qualities of its representatives - lies, cowardice, meanness and rogue.



    You know, I am grateful to fate: I was lucky with subordinates, colleagues, friends, I can list worthy commanders and commanders. True, he was not deprived of enemies either. But summing up the results of the path traveled, I can probably say without pathos that I served not the leaders, but the Stainless - the Soviet Union - Russia - the Fatherland and did everything I could, maybe even more.



    Thank you for: "We have not betrayed and will not betray!" Thanks guys.



    Find, look for each other. Think, analyze. This is a crow, jackals instantly gather in a flock. And others, like rams in a herd, following meekly for slaughter ...



    I congratulate you and your kind, all worthy people on the Great Victory Day. I wish that we could, if there is That Light, without lowering our eyes, look directly into the surprised eyes of our fathers and grandfathers who obtained this Victory. We will leave something to our descendants?



    Sincerely, Colonel Khabarov L.V.



    I have the honor!



    soldatrossii.jimdo.com ›page ... Khabarova /
  11. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 2 February 2013 20: 50
    10
    Someone really needs to show that power is for the people, but some former military people want to arrange a bloody revolution. Why is Navalny who calls people to barricades in the wild, and Khabarov in prison, why they do not touch Udaltsov and want to close Khabarov for 11 years? Because Khabarov’s personality, because he’s authority, that’s what power is most afraid of
    1. YuDDP
      YuDDP 3 February 2013 01: 25
      -1
      Yes, that's right. Udaltsov - anecdotal figure.
  12. Chukcha
    Chukcha 2 February 2013 21: 01
    +7
    Three people tried to organize not just a coup, but the overthrow of the political system?
    This is either a new joke, or schizophrenia of power.
    1. bddrus
      bddrus 3 February 2013 18: 05
      +1
      but it seems to me - if it’s a really messy business - then they would spin up at full volume
  13. harrymur
    harrymur 2 February 2013 21: 09
    +4
    for me everything rests on the fact that the military aristocracy was burned out with the red-hot iron, the slogan for faith, the tsar and the fatherland cannot be returned anyway, and you all agree that the current command staff has roots from the red flag, but this is a banner of victory but also a symbol of a red coup at the same time,
    I believe that the restoration of the military aristocracy should be included in the plan of defense of the Russian Federation, but in the near future this is not realistic, time will put everything in its place
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 2 February 2013 21: 15
      +7
      Quote: harrimur
      I believe that the restoration of the military aristocracy should be included in the Russian defense plan


      Unfortunately, decency and conscience, as well as fidelity to the oath and the fatherland, as well as courage and courage, cannot be raised by any plans!
      1. Hauptmann emil
        Hauptmann emil 2 February 2013 21: 24
        +8
        I do not agree. If you constantly show programs (films, etc.), conduct propaganda, then you can achieve a result. Not all 100% of course, .. scum enough at all times.
        And besides, prohibit films showing the "American Dream" from the media. It just entailed a degradation of feelings among the population. I hope all is not lost yet.
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 3 February 2013 00: 46
          +3
          Quote: Hauptmann Emil
          I hope all is not lost.

          All. Too late. And who did not understand - the fate of Kvachkov and Khabarov. Alas!
      2. harrymur
        harrymur 2 February 2013 21: 29
        0
        I agree, but I have an opinion that everything is on track, restoration of the red, Soviet army is no longer possible, and without an influential clan of military aristocrats, all defense plans are just dreams
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 2 February 2013 21: 36
          +1
          harrymur,
          Hauptmann Emil,
          Your words guys, but to God’s ears! winked
          Quote: harrimur
          but I have an opinion that everything goes to this,

          There are advances, I agree. But in order to clear the media of enemies, they must either be bought from them or nationalized! hi
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 2 February 2013 21: 38
      +1
      Quote: harrimur
      I believe that the restoration of the military aristocracy should be included in the Russian defense plan,

      What do you mean? And who will endow the military with aristocracy? If the current dissatisfaction, then there are such "your nobles".
      1. harrymur
        harrymur 2 February 2013 21: 54
        -2
        but to be honest, we don’t have any hereditary nobles, but officers who had killed quite a few adversaries with the least losses, I’ve got a couple of regiments, my great-grandfather in a wolf pack in the mountains and steppes cut himself a noble nobility, yes the krasnopuziks hacked their villages, time is needed for the new generation to decide everything
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 2 February 2013 23: 23
          +4
          harrymur, Where did you go. To the estates. In our realities, there will be five gunpowders not smelling for one officer who interrupted the adversaries. And civilians, what redheads? Give them the nobility granted too. If this happens, I give a tooth, Chubais will rake off the title of prince, and Ksenia Sobchak will be a baroness from an old democratic family.
          1. harrymur
            harrymur 2 February 2013 23: 39
            -2
            and where without them, if rkka and sa are already gone and never will be, I think that comrade’s treatment will also go down in history, and the sarcophagus of Kalmyk Ulyanov will also be demolished, time will cure everything
            It’s not proper to generalize this topic with Chubais and Ksyushki,
        2. s1н7т
          s1н7т 3 February 2013 00: 56
          0
          Quote: harrimur
          and he stepped into the steppes the bestowed nobility, but the Red-boobies killed their villages

          On other people's lives, "cut"? There he is dear
  14. Poplar
    Poplar 2 February 2013 21: 25
    +7
    Excerpt from Novaya Gazeta: It took State Prosecutor Denis Abashev one hour and five minutes to read out the indictment and state that the guilt of the defendants in a case of national importance was fully proved. According to investigators, on August 2, 2011 in Yekaterinburg there was a "coup d'etat". The operation was called Dawn. The “Companions of Kvachkov” from the “Minin and Pozharsky People’s Militia” planned to blow up the thermal power station in the early morning, destroy the leaders of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, MSC, the leaders of the Jewish, Armenian and other diasporas, and then wait for help from other regions and go to Moscow. The role of the leader was assigned to Alexander Ermakov, but he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and now the main accused is Leonid Khabarov. Inventor Viktor Kralin allegedly was going to finance the "rebellion". According to investigators, he was supposed to sell patents for his inventions and agree on financing with the Venezuelan ambassador to Belarus.

    The prosecutor, in a slightly edited form, read the indictment and stated that the correction of the defendants is possible only on condition of imprisonment. He asked the court to sentence:

    The legend of the landing and Afghanistan, a disabled person of the 2nd group war, Colonel Leonid Khabarov - 11 years in prison in a strict regime colony. Plus another year under supervision and plus a fine of 120 thousand rubles. Viktor Kralin, Honored Inventor of Russia, is 7 years in a penal colony with a fine of 50 thousand rubles. The representative of the Cossacks Alexander Ladeyshchikova - 6 years in prison in a penal colony with a fine of 50 thousand rubles.
    IT IS FANTASTIC.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 3 February 2013 01: 02
      +2
      Quote: Poplar
      IT IS FANTASTIC

      Unfortunately, this is a reality.
      Stability, so to speak.
    2. military
      military 4 February 2013 10: 53
      0
      Quote: Poplar
      planned to blow up the thermal power station, destroy the leaders of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, MSC, the leaders of the Jewish, Armenian and other diasporas

      ... disarm the garrison, arrest representatives of the regional and municipal leadership, seize the telegraph, state bank and water pumping station, release prisoners from prisons ... fool no comments! request
      Quote: Poplar
      and then wait for help from other regions and go to Moscow.

      oh, even how! ... belay it turns out that they had "associates" in other regions as well ... and of course everything, as if by selection, "unidentified by the investigation" ... repeat
      Quote: Poplar
      The role of the leader was assigned to Alexander Ermakov, but he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and now the main accused is Leonid Khabarov.

      that is, a schizophrenic, by definition, is not worthy of the role of "leader" ... strangely strange ... repeat life proves the opposite ... what
      Quote: Poplar
      Inventor Viktor Kralin allegedly was going to finance the "rebellion". According to the investigation, he had to sell patents for his inventions ...

      ...- wheel, perpetual motion machine and gravitsapu yes
      Quote: Poplar
      ... and agree on financing with the Venezuelan ambassador to Belarus.

      right ... the Venezuelan ambassador to Russia refused to meet, citing migraine ... and his colleague expressed interest and readiness to meet with the "financier" on neutral territory - in Paraguay or Honduras ... laughing
  15. valokordin
    valokordin 2 February 2013 21: 25
    +4
    Quote: sergo0000
    Unfortunately, decency and conscience, as well as fidelity to the oath and the fatherland, as well as courage and courage, cannot be raised by any plans!

    Sergo, you know this is the full reality of your assessment, conscience and honesty in this suit are not respected, but Serdyuk is not 37 years old
  16. suharev-52
    suharev-52 2 February 2013 21: 28
    +3
    It's just that honor, conscience, loyalty have depreciated so much in Russia at the moment that it seems they will never acquire their former significance. The grayness that has burst into power is the worst thing that can happen to the country. Because this dullness will hold on to power with teeth and claws and hate everyone who is not like them. "Russia, Russia! Protect yourself, save ,,," Rubtsov. Sincerely.
  17. wax
    wax 2 February 2013 21: 30
    12
    A coup d'etat was committed by the EBN. But for its accomplishment tanks were introduced to Moscow, not to mention the mass of other events of a military and non-military nature. Everyone who in the person of Khabarov imagined a military rebellion to change the state system, a place in a mental hospital.
  18. Moritz
    Moritz 2 February 2013 21: 33
    +2
    Well, the time has come
    1. Andrey58
      Andrey58 2 February 2013 23: 03
      +2
      Comrade, believe she will pass
      The so-called publicity,
      And then state security
      He will remember our names.
  19. uizik
    uizik 2 February 2013 21: 38
    +8
    Explicit ordering! You can’t catch (establish, identify, etc.) the enemy, spy, etc., organize everything yourself! Now you are honored and screaming! Methods known and often used by specialists and cops. And real prosecutors, judges, and investigators were duly retired. Honesty decency and professionalism are not needed now - it interferes with work. I would have tore the eggs off for the decree! Yes times!
  20. KOMPLEKT
    KOMPLEKT 2 February 2013 21: 43
    +8
    Here the cause-and-effect relationship is confused. After the "staged" attempt on the life of a Chubaisik (an active member of St. and the collapse of the GRU and similar structures. That is. change of districts, formation of brigades, reduction of Moscow headquarters, etc. etc. these were only tactical moves to create "horizontal" rearrangements of the command staff and with the subsequent forced retirement.
    And stooltkin is a trailer for life - a profitable marriage to Zubkov's daughter, this was his career lift, initially a family-related alien in the "zits-chairman" system was appointed. and tyril money with the dream of a long-awaited divorce.
    1. Civil
      Civil 2 February 2013 21: 57
      +1
      Well, we are waiting for the answer of the Chekists ... what do you say comrades?
      1. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 2 February 2013 22: 51
        +5
        Quote: Civil
        Well, we are waiting for the answer of the Chekists ... what do you say comrades?

        for that they are Chekists and to keep silent, it is clear that a person of such a level as Khabarov without approval from the very top .....
        I would like to hear the opinion of the "former Chekist" on this issue, otherwise he knows all the bulk-Udaltsovs, but here is a whole "coup" and silence. although the answer can be predicted, it's like at the last TV meeting with journalists about mines of defense
        - what did they steal there?
        - Stealing billions, don’t you know?
        -NOT
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg5sY6KxjEU
        1. Armata
          Armata 3 February 2013 14: 24
          +3
          Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
          - what did they steal there?
          - Stealing billions, don’t you know?
          -NOT
          I read the last issue of Commersant. So Norilsk Nickel asks not to take duties on him in favor of the state for the export of Nickel, poladium and other rare earth metals. How so they type must pay shareholders 70 000 000 000 rubles, and after payment to the state they have only 30 000 000 000. That is, so that a bunch of scoundrels lived well, the state should not get the money.
      2. s1н7т
        s1н7т 3 February 2013 01: 10
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        Well, we are waiting for the answer of the Chekists ... what do you say comrades?

        No, SUCH security officers are not comrades to us!
    2. harrymur
      harrymur 2 February 2013 22: 39
      0
      KOMPLEKT
      for me, your post is a heresy, a primitive, philistine understanding of processes, our vovan is not simple, oh how not simple, and it’s fundamentally wrong to regard his actions as a showdown, even though you don’t understand politics with your mind
      I think he’s doing everything to give the Russians a respite without revolutions and Decembrists, the only correct behavior is to fill the refrigerator and the bank account, well, count up the red gandons and the white color of the nation,
      if you look closely, everything is like in the textbooks-prerequisites for the revolution, and even the Decembrists muddied the water, the only thing that is a pity is that the warriors were humiliated, but he started to pay debts
      1. KOMPLEKT
        KOMPLEKT 3 February 2013 11: 23
        -1
        Rather, give their St. Petersburg respite without revolutions.
    3. Andrey58
      Andrey58 2 February 2013 23: 10
      +2
      Quote: KOMPLEKT
      After the "staged" assassination attempt on Chubaisik (an active member of St. Petersburg), he did not ruffle in a childish way (it was perceived as a threat to all St. Petersburg) and the "reform" of the army began

      Yeah, only the attempt on Chubais happened in 2005, and the reform of the army began in 2008.
      If someone believes that the country's leadership can allow the appearance of some secret order of military ninja from the GRU, plotting an assassination attempt on the President, then he is a very naive person. All specials under tight control since the 50s.
      1. KOMPLEKT
        KOMPLEKT 3 February 2013 11: 19
        +2
        March 2005 - attempt on Chubais
        May 2006 - a message from the president (from Izvestia):
        "In the future, bringing them to the optimal level (number) of one million people does not provide for special measures to reduce, but there should be achieved through the natural retirement of a part of the officer corps who have served the statutory terms of service, "Putin said.

        He emphasized that withThe reduction will take place only due to "a reduction in the bureaucratic apparatus - combat subunits will not be reduced at all."

        "All this allows us to reduce the term of conscription to 12 months," Putin said.
        1. Andrey58
          Andrey58 3 February 2013 16: 07
          +2
          That is, he was so scared that he thought for a year and two months how to reduce the army? "It's hard to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if it's not there." (c) Confucius.
  21. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 2 February 2013 22: 07
    +1
    Frankly, I didn’t understand Nichrome request what is the new tendency to disqualify ex ??? A couple of mutts, puzzled recourse
  22. stranik72
    stranik72 2 February 2013 23: 02
    +3
    Civil,
    And what the FSB can say, its "entire Heads of US Departments are running and surrendering everyone and everything," almost every month our agents are drained abroad, so we need to work off high salaries and the easiest and safest option is to find an anti-government a conspiracy and it is desirable that it would not be scary for Russians, not Muslims, or even more so Caucasians of all religions, otherwise you can get in the teeth, but it’s so easy and you are in kings.
    1. Cpa
      Cpa 3 February 2013 00: 16
      +1
      It’s just that the patriots united, but they didn’t hear them. They didn’t achieve anything. We started to murmur, talked a lot, and immediately the provocateurs drew themselves. None of them would call for terror if they could serve their country after the army
      consultants, educators, politicians, inventors. You can say a lot of things in a hurry. It’s just that you wouldn’t cling to them, they did something offensive, most likely the local authorities of various kinds.
    2. Zubr
      Zubr 3 February 2013 00: 17
      +1
      I SAY THE FLYING OF NEW FSB BABIES HAS BEGUN ....
  23. Zubr
    Zubr 3 February 2013 00: 12
    +4
    SHAME AND CURSE AT THEIR DAMNY AND DEBILIC HEADS! REALLY PATRIOTS TO BE PUT TO COURT! THE MIND IS NOT STRENGTHENING TO SEE TO SOMETHING FROM PERDUKOVSKY UNTRANIBLE IN THE Muzzle DAL.
    WELL THIS IS AN INDICATIVE FAILURE, WELL OF AN ESSENTIAL VETERAN, PREPARING THESE OFFICERS ....... AI YAI YAI ....
    A PENDANT YOU A PRICE OF THE FSB, BETTER WOULD DO PERDYUKOVSKY Parsing, THERE IS AN EXPRESS STATE. CHANGE AND COOPERATION WITH FOREIGN Intelligence. SEE WHAT THAT FSB LIEUTENANTIC HAS CONDITIONED THE CASE OF THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE, THERE WERE BEFORE IT WAS ....
    AGAIN STARTED .....
  24. Khan
    Khan 3 February 2013 05: 48
    +1
    In the above facts, FSB officers from Moscow were not arrested by the local special forces, so the arrest command was from Moscow, and you can give the command to the Muscovites yourself you know who. One of the military professionals is worrying, Kvachkov, Khabarov is planted as in the year 37, then it will soon be 41.
    1. Andrey58
      Andrey58 3 February 2013 16: 09
      +2
      Quote: Khan
      In the above facts, the FSB officers from Moscow were not arrested by the local special forces, so the arrest command was from Moscow,

      Soon this means that the locals were not allowed to do such a serious thing, so as not to screw up.
  25. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 3 February 2013 10: 02
    +4
    For some reason, those who seized power by overthrowing the constitutional order in 93 - do not remember.
    And it would be necessary ...
  26. gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 3 February 2013 11: 49
    +3
    There were worse times, but there was no mean! Nekrasov wrote 140 years ago. He would know today's picture ...
    Where is the "Union of Officers" interesting? Why is there no help from the Union of Veterans of the Airborne Forces, SPN?
    What is the strength in, brother?
  27. killganoff
    killganoff 3 February 2013 22: 06
    0
    By its actions, the government discriminates against itself.
    1. military
      military 4 February 2013 11: 00
      0
      Quote: killganoff
      By its actions, the government itself discriminates against.

      I suppose you meant "discredited" ... wink although your version is quite tempting ...
  28. dark_65
    dark_65 11 February 2013 08: 29
    0
    I’m watching the video for the third day, trying to comprehend, it doesn’t fit my head.

    Explosion of power lines .. nonsense, for a mass panic (write as a person who understands), explosions of five six packs in crowded places would be enough for people to exit the cinema, hospital .. other places, the crowd will do the rest.
    The feeling of the abomination of what is happening does not leave.
  29. Michael
    Michael 28 May 2017 09: 36
    0
    Everything that happens comes from the powers that be, who have the task of chewing, from here everything is muddied.
    As long as there is no master in Russia (the Tsar), temporary workers will stir up, ruin and cut all the time.
    There is no longer any people in Russia, since they made the people out of the people by mixing all nations and pouring in aliens, and this mass is “some in the forest, some for firewood”
    The government has done everything to destroy Russia, and has already destroyed, since it is almost impossible to rebel the people!