The Russian military-industrial complex is preparing for mass production of the S-70 “Okhotnik” heavy drone

The Russian military-industrial complex (DIC) is preparing for mass production of heavy drone S-70 "Hunter". The device will begin to be produced this year at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named after Chkalov. At the moment, the final stage of its testing is underway.

The UAV is capable of performing a wide variety of functions, including aerial reconnaissance, striking ground targets and combating aviation and enemy unmanned vehicles.

One of its main design features is the presence of a flat jet nozzle, which reduces radar signature drone.

The device was developed at the Sukhoi Design Bureau. The first flight of the drone took place in August 2019, and in September of the same year it acted as a wingman in tandem with the latest Su-57 fighter.

Recently, a significant event took place in the Russian defense industry - the ceremonial withdrawal from the boathouse of the nuclear submarine "Prince Pozharsky".

Despite the fact that Russia is currently conducting a complex and costly special military operation, domestic aircraft manufacturers are making progress not only in the defense industry, but also in creating aircraft for peaceful use. Thus, at the Aviastar plant in Ulyanovsk, production of the Il-76MD-90A, the civilian version of the famous Il-76 military transport aircraft, has been resumed. Its main purpose is the delivery of equipment and other goods over long distances.

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[hwostatij]

One of its main design features is the presence of a flat jet nozzle, which reduces the radar signature of the drone.

Maybe, nevertheless, thermal?

[Maxim]

not only thermal, but also, as in the article, the radar signature of turbine blades reflects the radio wave well

[knn54]

Maxim, do not reflect, but absorb thanks to the special materials from which the nozzle is made,
Because ALL radars operate on the principle of reflected waves.
IR radiation is dissipated, i.e. the temperature of the outgoing jet and the likelihood of the product being hit by missiles with TGS are significantly reduced.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: knn54

Maxim, do not reflect, but absorb thanks to the special materials from which the nozzle is made,

I think that Maxim said it right! He just "slightly" confused... the nozzle with the air intake! They also do tricks with the air intakes! The compressor blades in the “direct” air intake reflect the radar beam well! So the designers have to “scratch their heads”! The air intake has to be made “crooked”... that is, curved... for example, S-shaped, in order to hide the compressor blades behind the “turn”! Additionally, the S-shaped air intake is covered with radio-absorbing material. And yet, the S-shaped air intake also has its “cons”! Therefore, they do not refuse the “direct” air intake, trying to make compressor blades from radio-absorbing material... installing special (anti-radar) grilles at the inlet! !

[Lozovik]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

He just "slightly" confused... the nozzle with the air intake!

I wrote everything correctly, both the low pressure turbine and the front device are visible from the nozzle.



But on the Okhotnik the first is hidden (if you are interested in how, see the design of the P195 engine), and the second is simply not there. Also, according to the project, a radio-absorbing coating should be applied to the nozzle.

[Puzoter]

From the side of the nozzle, the plasma will not transmit radio waves to the blades, so there is definitely no point in hiding the blades, but cooling the torch with a flat nozzle will really help reduce radar signature

[Lozovik]

What other plasma? The gas temperature behind the turbine is maximum 800°C.

Quote: puzoter

but cooling the torch with a flat nozzle will really help reduce radar signature

What torch?

[2 Level Advisor]

Well, God forbid, in 2024.. since there is not much hope for managers, based on past results..

[qQQQ]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Well, God grant that in 2024..

Make no mistake, it has been preparing for mass production for at least 5 years now. The trouble with our military-industrial complex is that they are developing and preparing a lot of modern and necessary things, but they are not mass-producing them.

[vik669]

Yes, all hope is in advisers and advisers - it’s clearer from the sofa and in the hands of others it’s always... based on past results..

[Andrey the Magnificent]

It’s strange that the news was listed on the site as early as February 10, but the opportunity to leave reactions and comments remained until April 5!
I am sure that under the current leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the country in general, this “Okhotnik” will remain, just like the notorious “Armata”, exclusively in single copies to fly at the parade (((

[Rockerman]

How are things going with the flyers? Moremans have "seven feet under the keel."
In general, let him fly and reduce the number of enemies.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: RockerMan

How are things going with the flyers?

So that the number of takeoffs is equal to the number of landings!

[air wolf]

We need a compact unmanned helicopter with AI, with a machine gun turret and a pair of Cornets or sometimes UB-16-57 NAR units.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: air wolf

We need a compact unmanned helicopter with AI, with a machine gun turret and a pair of Cornets or sometimes UB-16-57 NAR units.

We need a lot of things! But an unmanned helicopter is not a “panacea”!

[qQQQ]

Quote: air wolf

with machine gun turret

So that when using this turret it would fly in the opposite direction. To compensate for recoil, the UAV must be the size of an airplane.

[alexoff]

But how do ordinary men shoot light machine guns and not fall?

[qQQQ]

Quote from alexoff

But how do ordinary men shoot light machine guns and not fall?

They lean forward to compensate for it using the recoil distribution angle, while resting well on the ground. Don't confuse point-blank shooting with shooting in the air, where recoil is compensated by your own weight.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

We need a compact unmanned helicopter with AI, with a machine gun turret and a pair of Cornets or sometimes UB-16-57 NAR units.

And why is he so needed?

[Maxim G]

I wonder what the price of the Hunter is?
And what does heavy mean?
Will there be a combat load of 20 tons and the ability to take a bomb with a caliber of 3000, 5000, 9000 kg?

Questions, questions ...

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

I wonder what the price of the Hunter is?

The car has not passed the state inspection (and even in its final form it does not yet exist), preparation for production has not been carried out, what price can we talk about?

Quote: Maxim G

And what does heavy mean?

The take-off weight is large.

Quote: Maxim G

Will there be a combat load of 20 tons and the ability to take a bomb with a caliber of 3000, 5000, 9000 kg?

What for?

[Maxim G]

Quote: Lozovik

The car has not passed the state inspection (and even in its final form it does not yet exist), preparation for production has not been carried out, what price can we talk about?

The customer must imagine what the cost of serial production of this aircraft will be.
Otherwise, there is no point in ordering its development if it is too expensive.

Quote: Lozovik

The take-off weight is large.

Much less than the Tu-22M* and Tu-95MS (the press writes from 10 to 25 tons).

Quote: Lozovik

What for?

Why does the aircraft need a combat load of 20 tons or does it need the entire range of anti-aircraft weapons - not only bombs of different calibers, but also missiles?

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

The customer must imagine what the cost of serial production of this aircraft will be.

No one knows what the actual cost will be.

Quote: Maxim G

Much less than the Tu-22M* and Tu-95MS

Are they drones?

Quote: Maxim G

(the press writes from 10 to 25 tons).

Yeah, 10 tons

Quote: Maxim G

Why a combat load of 20 tons?

What for?

Quote: Maxim G

or why does an aircraft need the entire range of anti-aircraft weapons - not only bombs of different calibers, but also missiles?

Why does he need bombs of such calibers?

[Maxim G]

Quote: Lozovik

No one knows what the actual cost will be.

And they should. Because It may turn out that we cannot afford such things.

Quote: Lozovik

Yeah, 10 tons

And what is the combat load?
3 tons, like the Yak-130?

Quote: Lozovik

Are they drones?

The S-70 is an aircraft-type unmanned aerial vehicle (drone) (there is such a classification for civilian UAVs).
Those. basically an airplane.
If the Tu-22M* is a medium bomber, then how can the S-70 be heavy?

Quote: Lozovik

What for?

Quote: Lozovik

Why does he need bombs of such calibers?

Why is it called heavy? (text above).

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

And they should. Because It may turn out that we cannot afford such things.

While systems are being developed, it is impossible to determine the cost of their serial production and the product as a whole.

Quote: Maxim G

And what is the combat load?
3 tons, like the Yak-130?

Who wrote about 10 tons, that’s where the demand comes from.

Quote: Maxim G

Those. basically an airplane.

A separate class of aircraft.

Quote: Maxim G

If the Tu-22M* is a medium bomber, then how can the S-70 be heavy?

Excellent logic chain If the An-124 weighs 400 tons, then how can the Tu-95 be heavy?

Quote: Maxim G

Why is it called heavy? (text above).

By weight (see text above). The Tu-95MS also does not carry the FAB-3000 and the load is carried less than the Tu-22M3, does that make it super-light or something?

[Maxim G]

Quote: Lozovik

While systems are being developed, determine the cost of mass production impossible.

Even if the systems are already in mass production and are used on other aircraft - engines, electronics, etc.?

Quote: Lozovik

Excellent logical chain If the An-124 weighs 400 tons, then how can the Tu-95 be heavy?

A separate class of aircraft.

Quote: Lozovik

By weight (see text above).

The An-124 is a transport aircraft, not a bomber. He has nothing to do with it.

Bombers are divided by weight and by the nature of the tasks they perform.
The Tu-22M* is a medium bomber (long-range missile carrier-bomber), like the S-70 - a bomber (missile carrier-bomber).
If we take the bomber classification, it is not heavy at all.

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

Even if the systems are already in mass production and are used on other aircraft - engines, electronics, etc.?

The Hunter's engines are not in mass production, and neither are the electronics.

Quote: Maxim G

The An-124 is a transport aircraft, not a bomber. He has nothing to do with it.

Transport worker, so what? It's an airplane.

Quote: Maxim G

Bombers are divided by weight and by the nature of the tasks they perform.

They have not been classified by weight for a long time.

Quote: Maxim G

S-70 - bomber (missile carrier-bomber).

This is where it is written?

Quote: Maxim G

If we take the bomber classification, it is not heavy at all.

You need to take the UAV classification.

[Maxim G]

Quote: Lozovik

The Hunter's engines are not in mass production, and neither are the electronics.

Those. to the question of an unclear price, the question of unclear reliability, resource is added.

Quote: Lozovik

They have not been classified by weight for a long time.

The Tu-22M* is still in operation, which means this classification can be used.

Quote: Lozovik

This is where it is written?

There are no other options, there are reconnaissance and attack UAVs, but no fighters, at least not yet.

Quote: Lozovik

You need to take the UAV classification.

Yeah, why is it heavy, by the way, based on what is it heavy, in terms of mass, load?

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

Those. to the question of an unclear price, the question of unclear reliability, resource is added.

The engine is less loaded than the prototype, so the service life is at least no less. I can’t say what’s in the radio-electronic equipment.

Quote: Maxim G

The Tu-22M* is still in operation, which means this classification can be used.

It was not used anywhere except within the design bureau for this aircraft. By the way, how many kg is average? Is it heavy or light?

Quote: Maxim G

There are no other options

Unmanned strike system.

Quote: Maxim G

Yeah, why is it heavy, by the way, based on what is it heavy, in terms of mass, load?

In both ways.

[Maxim G]

Quote: Lozovik

By the way, how many kg is average? Is it heavy or light?

Yes, we need to remember what’s up with this classification and how tied it is to specific machines.

Quote: Lozovik

Unmanned strike system.

There is a freely available classification, can you take a look?

As far as I understand, you highly appreciate the prospects of launching this drone into series?

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

There is a freely available classification, can you take a look?

Perhaps there is. This name is mentioned in one of the ROCs.

Quote: Maxim G

As far as I understand, you highly appreciate the prospects of launching this drone into series?

It's only a matter of time, work is progressing actively, unlike the T-75. But you shouldn’t expect a series either this year or next.

[Maxim G]

What do you think about aircraft whose airframe is designed for stealth, like the S-70, B-21?

[Lozovik]

With the increase in the combat effectiveness of the average air defense system, this has become a necessity.

[Maxim G]

What if you launch missiles outside the air defense missile range?

Quote: Lozovik

With the increase in the combat effectiveness of the average air defense system, this has become a necessity.

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

What if you launch missiles outside the air defense missile range?

Each target has its own weapon - missiles with a range of hundreds of kilometers of road, many times more expensive than gliding bombs and much larger: the same Tu-22M3 can carry 8-10 missiles in the X-15 size with 200 kg of explosives or 24 gliding bombs in FAB dimensions 500M-62. At the same time, the effectiveness of missiles against area, linear, group and underground targets is very limited.

[Maxim G]

This is understandable.
But the question is how much the aircraft’s performance is deteriorating, and is it possible to take more limited measures on the airframe - grilles, s-channels, canopy coating, and the aircraft itself, sawtooth hatches, etc., without turning the aircraft into a kind of flounder?

[Lozovik]

Flying wings have a very high aerodynamic quality, which has a positive effect on one of the main characteristics of an attack aircraft - flight range (tactical range). Speed, maneuverability, etc. are secondary for them.

[Maxim G]

There is another question: if modern air defense, with numerous and modern radars and air defense systems, on the ground, AWACS, ships - then will such an aircraft be able to drop bombs undetected.
And if such an aircraft cannot operate against countries with modern air defense, because... will be visible, then all that remains is to bomb backward countries with planning bombs, and use missiles against developed countries.

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

There is another question: if modern air defense, with numerous and modern radars and air defense systems, on the ground, AWACS, ships - then will such an aircraft be able to drop bombs undetected.

Stealth does not replace the need for proper planning. If the target is well covered, then to destroy it it is necessary to allocate the appropriate detachment of forces and carry out an entire air operation. And so, even the Su-34 during the current conflict worked as bombs in tactical depth, it’s just that the planes themselves in their existing form are so-so, so they suffered losses.

Quote: Maxim G

And if such an aircraft cannot operate against countries with modern air defense, because... will be visible, then all that remains is to bomb backward countries with planning bombs, and use missiles against developed countries.

Again, the question is what kind of targets and at what distance from the LBS.

[Maxim G]

So the question is, how useful is stealth in such conditions?
Would you like to tell us more about the role of stealth in the article?
It would be interesting.

[Lozovik]

Quote: Maxim G

So the question is, how useful is stealth in such conditions?

The detection range and, accordingly, working time are reduced.

Quote: Maxim G

Would you like to tell us more about the role of stealth in the article?

It is unlikely that it will turn out reliably; for this you need to master the topic more fully.
I already tried to write, it turned out to be not so interesting

[vovochkarzhevsky]

I wonder what the price of the Hunter is?

It's a question of questions. But it is clear that it will exceed the price at which it, as a UAV, loses all meaning. Moreover, it is unlikely to be a mass product.
And now the problem is that mass attack aircraft have disappeared. What was it like during the IL-2 period?

[Maxim G]

Quote: vovochkarzhevsky

And now the problem is that mass attack aircraft have disappeared. What was it like during the IL-2 period?

?

This is about aircraft with what combat load are we talking about (if we take modern aviation)?
Or are you talking about combat helicopters like the Mi-24?

[vovochkarzhevsky]

This is about aircraft with what combat load are we talking about (if we take modern aviation)?
Or are you talking about combat helicopters like the Mi-24?

We need relatively cheap attack aircraft of the Il-2 type (load 1,5-2 tons) and flight personnel with training at the level of Soviet aviation centers.

[Maxim G]

Quote: vovochkarzhevsky

We need relatively cheap attack aircraft of the Il-2 type (load 1,5-2 tons) and flight personnel with training at the level of Soviet aviation centers.

We discussed this before, with you - piston combat aircraft, with ATGMs.

And if we talk about aircraft carrying gliding bombs and URVPs?
After all, we need a larger number of aircraft, the MiG-29, Su-27 families.

[alexoff]

Well, there’s the MiG-UTS, which is an analogue of the L-39 and is being prepared for production; if you put the pilot behind the control panel in a bunker, it will be quite a normal attack aircraft-fabric-thrower. An engine from a Yak-130 costs something like a million bucks, the whole plane will cost about five million, like a quarter of a Ka-52

[wladimirjankov]

So you won’t be able to stock up on any flight personnel and cheap attack aircraft, too, with such an abundance of air defense systems, MANPADS and air defense systems.

[anatolv]

Quote: vovochkarzhevsky

And why is he so needed?

And so that there was!

[Piramidon]

Quote: air wolf

We need a compact unmanned helicopter

If YOU need it, buy it.

[Alexey Lantukh]

More likely. I’ve probably been reading for a year now that it’s about to, soon, soon, will be.

[Ross xnumx]

In the future, he should become the liquidator of reconnaissance drones that cost who knows how many millions. The best remedy: both drones, what they did not share over the Black Sea - only God knows... And let the claims be shoved in the same place where the materials on the investigation of the explosions at the joint venture were divided...

[Andrey Moskvin]

Let the strongest one, who has the higher AI coefficient, win?

[Rus_80]

"Hunter" for Global Hawk? And others like him?

[Bear]

We really hope that he will bring some sleight of hand in neutral airspace, where the adversary’s UAVs are still hanging out with impunity.

[gribanov.c]

Getting ready...getting ready. Why does it take us so long to introduce new equipment to the troops? Developed and launched into production, the first batches immediately enter the active army. During the war, this cycle was between six months and a year. Now it’s been years and years, why has everything become so complicated? There is a Su-57, Armata, Coalition, 57-mm cannon, where is all this in mass quantities? Are there commander tablets that transmit the situation on the battlefield? New radars for counter-battery warfare, instead of bulky zoo ones? It seems that everything is in development, they show it at exhibitions

[Rus_80]

Why so long? Well, probably because the Armata is not a T-34 or IS, and the Su-57 is not an IL, not a YAK from the Second World War... Although of course you are right, shifts to the right have become almost a classic...

[El Chuvachino]

In fact, the development of the S-70 has been repeatedly shifted to the left. It's being developed too quickly

[Tagan]

How easy and simple everything is for you. You might think that everything in this world appears with the wave of a hand.

[qQQQ]

Quote from gribanow.c

Why does it take us so long to introduce new equipment to the troops?

Because most likely, everything is only on paper. As soon as the deadline for mass production approaches, it turns out there is nothing to produce, and to hide it, an even cooler thing is offered, but you have to wait. And so on ad infinitum everything is in the development process. The main thing is that the budget is spent.

[wladimirjankov]

[quote it turns out there is nothing to produce][/quote]
It would probably be more correct to use nothing and nothing.

[Serjy]

Quote from gribanow.c

During the war, this cycle was between six months and a year. Now it’s been years and years, why has everything become so complicated?

Then the technology was different, and the country was different.

[alexoff]

The technology was advanced then, and now it is also advanced.

[Chief Officer Lom]

The machine itself seems great, but it’s not clear what it’s intended for. His role as a slave is often mentioned - is he controlled by such an advanced AI? To strike on the ground in the absence of air defense, it is very steep (excessively expensive), but if it is available, isn’t it cheaper to hit with missiles? I really hope I’m wrong that a technically advanced machine was created to implement the pre-war concept of using drones with an eye on globalhawks and bayraktar. Or is its stealth so good that it will have time to justify (statistically) its price compared to long-range missiles before its destruction?

[I'm mine]

In fact, it should fly just ahead of the Su-57 and, first of all, take out the radar and crush the air defense. Or strike at ground targets where they can be snatched. There's no pilot there

[Fangaro]

The Russian military-industrial complex is preparing for mass production of the S-70 “Okhotnik” heavy drone
...The first flight of the drone took place in August 2019
...the ceremonial withdrawal of the nuclear submarine "Prince Pozharsky" from the boathouse.
... production of the Il-76MD-90A has been resumed at the Aviastar plant in Ulyanovsk

I read the newspapers quickly. What I remember is all included in the article.

[Anchonsha]

Well done guys for the S-70, now it needs to be mass produced, let it serve the Fatherland and gain work experience with specialists.

[Volunteer Marek]

Yes, at one time, in the early 80s, this plant produced 4
-5 SU-24 M monthly. I was there in 1984 for retraining... Now, that’s the pace!

[Comrade Kim]

Lately our defense industry has been very encouraging!

Taking into account Shoigu’s stated percentage of new weapons in our Army, soon there will be about 90% of modern weapons.
Or not?

[wladimirjankov]

And you can see for yourself in the videos filmed at the Northern Military District what our army is fighting with and with what. And also ask around the SVO participants who come on vacation with LBS.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Volunteer Marek

Yes, at one time, in the early 80s, this plant produced 4
-5 SU-24 M monthly

Better remain silent.
Effective managers of the Russian elite believe that "in the USSR they could only make galoshes".

For reference, in 1982 year, more than 540 civil airliners!
This does not take into account agricultural aviation (An 2).

And now, releasing one two civil aircraft per year (partially, 25-30% Russian!), these managers scream like blessed ones about not having a breakthrough in the world.

We hope that these nasty times of Borka-Alkash and his family will pass, and the domestic aviation industry will rise from its knees.

Russia will not tolerate such economic stress as feeding the rotten elite and producing a wide range of weapons for the needs of the Northern Military District.

Without the elite, Russia will live, cleansing itself and recovering.
No modern weapons!

[cornet2]

I would give it 100+! It's just a pity, I'm unlikely to live...

[wladimirjankov]

[quoteOPK) Russia is preparing for mass production of the S-70 “Okhotnik” heavy drone. The device will begin to be produced this year at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named after Chkalov. ][/quote]
It takes too long to prepare, as always. And it’s not a fact that they won’t reschedule production this year. We need to take an example from the Americans. At the end of last year they made the first flight of the newest strategic bomber B-21 and this year they already want to begin its mass production.

[bug120560]

We made it. Among our responsible persons, who is responsible for their words?
In August 2020, the head of the UAC, Yuri Slyusar, said that the Russian Ministry of Defense will begin receiving serial UAVs in 2023. And where?
Eduard Asadov has this quatrain:
In any matter with maximum difficulties
There is still one approach to the problem:
Desire is a multitude of possibilities
And there are many reasons for reluctance.

[75 Sergey]

Will the Su-57 have a flat nozzle?

[MONEY]

Yeah! Serial.... Dozens of Armat, Kaolitsy, etc. are already roaming the battlefields. And dozens of PAKFA are flying in the sky. Well, sir. We're waiting for reinforcements. I think after the elections, we won't hear about him anymore.. .

[Andrey A]

According to some reports, the S-70 "Okhotnik" is going to be put into production in the second half of this year at the Novosibirsk plant. So it will be soon. https://yandex.ru/video/preview/622627028237805220

[Idle_piston]

I don’t understand something, I read about the launch of this product into series five years ago. Somehow it’s hard to push in series, probably because it’s heavy?