There is no more grain deal, but the grain corridor is still functioning

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There is no more grain deal, but the grain corridor is still functioning

In early February, the Bloomberg news agency, citing data from Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Kubrakov reportedthat the supply of agricultural products from Ukraine to world markets has practically reached pre-war levels. Since August 2023, 14,3 million tons of agricultural products have been exported from Ukrainian ports (the total volume exceeded 20 million tons); in January alone, shipments amounted to 6,3 million tons, which is almost equal to the pre-war level.

This clearly demonstrates that, despite the termination of the grain deal (from which Russia officially withdrew last July), Odessa ports have returned to export levels close to pre-war. Based on data from open sources, several dozen firms, including large international traders, currently use the grain corridor.



At the same time, Russian experts argued that Russia’s withdrawal from the Black Sea grain initiative was that, they say, it constrains the actions of our military in the Black Sea, and withdrawal from it would free up Russia’s hands.

“It will be possible to declare this zone closed, stop and inspect it using the forces of the Russian Black Sea fleet any ship that appears there, and, if necessary, destroy it,”

– said, in particular, military expert Mikhail Onufrienko. In reality, this turned out to be just the fantasies of journalists and bloggers.

The question arises: why, after the formal completion of the grain deal, is it, in fact, still functioning?

“Russia is losing the battle for the Black Sea”


In January 2024, The Economist magazine published a story entitled “Russia is losing the battle for the Black Sea" It is clear that the objectivity of Western media is very, very relative (sometimes they publish both good analytical materials and outright propaganda), nevertheless, the author will quote one of the paragraphs of this material:

“Ukraine had to work hard to create its own grain corridor, limiting Russian dominance in the Black Sea without having a single functioning warship. The first success was achieved shortly after the start of the military conflict, when Ukraine prevented an amphibious landing. This was a complex undertaking, but the key point was the end of the Russian blockade of Odessa westward, 100 km from Voznesensk, in March 2022. Two months later, Ukraine was able to establish a 100-mile buffer in the northwestern Black Sea after destroying the cruiser Moskva and regaining control of the strategic Zmeiny Island. In the third stage, ending in 2023, Ukraine completely ousted Russian warships from the northwestern, central and even southwestern parts of the Black Sea.”

Despite a number of inaccuracies and nuances, we have to agree with the statement that Russia was ousted from part of the Black Sea, and it no longer controls it. But the reason for this is not only the “efforts of Ukraine”, which The Economist writes about - of course, the presence of high-precision weapons, conveyed by the West, seriously affects the situation. The Black Sea Fleet is regularly attacked by long-range missiles and naval drones, and many of these attacks unfortunately succeed.

However, there are other reasons, among which the passive defensive strategy adopted by the Black Sea Fleet should also be mentioned. However, even this strategy is not thought out, as, for example, blogger Atomic Cherry pointed out:

“The ships of the Black Sea Fleet are mainly dispersed throughout the bays, and this has long been no secret for the Navy planners. In short, to organize reliable security there is no need to patrol the entire coast of Crimea - it is enough to conduct zonal patrols on the approaches to the fleet's anchorages. For what reason is the Black Sea Fleet not equipped with reconnaissance UAVs that can carry out surveillance on the approaches to the zones of deployment of ships (while, obviously, there is the possibility of ordering them - both at Russian enterprises and at enterprises of friendly countries) - a question that remains unanswered." .

The statement that Russia is losing the battle for the Black Sea is in fact not entirely correct, but one cannot help but admit that the Black Sea Fleet was unable to carry out a blockade of Ukrainian ports, which is why Russia agreed to a grain deal. The Black Sea Fleet really lost the struggle for dominance in the Black Sea, but this happened not now, but after leaving Zmeiny Island. What is happening now is just the consequences of those decisions.

As for the functioning of the grain corridor, despite the above, there are other reasons that it is functioning.

Why isn't Russia trying to block the grain corridor?


The main question that many people have is why, despite Russia’s withdrawal from the grain deal, the grain corridor still functions as if the deal is ongoing? In addition to the weakness of the Black Sea Fleet, this is due to several other factors.

Firstly, the grain corridor currently operates through the territorial waters of Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey. Russia cannot attack ships in the territorial waters of another state without proof that they are carrying weapons, since this will lead to far-reaching international diplomatic consequences, including the entry of the NATO fleet into the Black Sea (which is not yet possible due to Turkey’s position) . Therefore, hot heads who shout about the need to sink all ships sometimes still need to think with this very head.

However, another question may arise here - if the Black Sea Fleet is not able to organize a blockade, why is the port infrastructure itself not destroyed so that ships simply have nowhere to load/unload? And why don’t the ships attack when they are still in Ukrainian territorial waters? After all, the Ministry of Defense stated that from July 20, all ships traveling in the Black Sea to Ukrainian ports will be considered “as potential carriers of military cargo.”

And here it should be noted that, secondly, the grain corridor is functioning because there are corresponding unspoken agreements. The author has said more than once that global players moderating the military conflict in Ukraine designate certain rules that political players must comply with. And the functioning of the grain corridor is determined precisely by these rules. This is not a conspiracy theory, but a real state of affairs.

It is for this reason that the strikes of the Russian Armed Forces on Odessa after the completion of the grain deal were mostly demonstrative in nature, and were not aimed at the complete destruction of the port infrastructure. Such goals were simply not set.

In theory, Russia could try to impede the grain corridor by destroying the ports of Odessa and the Danube Delta ports, which are also used by Ukraine, with precision weapons, but in practice this does not happen. It is not possible to prevent the grain deal with the help of the Black Sea Fleet, due to its weakness and the presence of high-precision weapons by the enemy.
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  1. +18
    13 February 2024 04: 57
    the grain corridor functions because there are corresponding unspoken Arrangements

    And this explains everything!
    1. +29
      13 February 2024 08: 51
      Cowardice, betrayal and illegal participation of “our” traders in the grain deal. That’s all. And the rest of the article is just “excuses”.
      1. +6
        13 February 2024 10: 35
        illegal participation in the grain deal

        It's not about the grain deal. The grain deal directly concerned movement across the sea. And now the ships are going through the territory. waters of Romania. The ships belong to third countries, ours do not hit them.

        But why the attacks on ports near Odessa and the Danube were actually stopped is a big question.
        When they hit normally there was almost no cargo turnover. sad
        1. +2
          13 February 2024 23: 00
          Quote: Netl
          go through ter. waters of Romania. The ships belong to third countries, ours do not hit them.

          We could continue to hit the loading ports, but TNCs need to export their grain. It is not Ukrainian and the used agricultural land belongs to these TNCs, so this is exactly what everyone thought - an agreement.
        2. 0
          14 February 2024 03: 12
          But why the attacks on ports near Odessa and the Danube were actually stopped is a big question.

          A few days ago there was an attack on port terminals on the Danube.
          1. 0
            14 February 2024 09: 36
            there was a blow a few days ago

            Here we need to evaluate not by the news about the “strikes”. And according to the information, open, by the way, about the movement of ships and cargo turnover. When they announced the termination of the deal and hit the ports, cargo turnover stood still.
            Now it is supplied in almost pre-war volumes. sad
      2. +14
        13 February 2024 12: 14
        It's just hard to draw red lines on water
      3. +11
        13 February 2024 23: 07
        Traders themselves are nothing without the top. I don’t know what we should do in the elections. Among whom to choose a president? If it’s just lies and babble, Hurray Carson has arrived))))
      4. 0
        19 February 2024 21: 55
        Quote: Taimen
        Cowardice, betrayal and illegal participation of “our” traders in the grain deal. That’s all. And the rest of the article is just “excuses”.

        By withdrawing from the grain deal, Russia freed its hands to liberate Odessa, Nikolaev and other port cities that were under the rule of the Bandraites. And Ukrainian grain delivered at dumping prices to the EU brought farmers onto the streets. hi
    2. +9
      13 February 2024 13: 46
      Vladimir, they took it from the tongue, everything is absolutely based on agreements and betrayal, visible to the naked eye, in fact, from the very beginning, I feel sorry for those who died and are dying so that everything remains the same
      1. +10
        13 February 2024 14: 14
        Nicholas hi As agrarian Patrushev reported, our agricultural production has increased 2 times, and the export of agricultural products has increased 30 times! Everything is for sale: eggs, pork, beef, grain, butter, sugar. And if it is exported, then so that our exports are not blocked, we do not block Ukrainian ones. Business, nothing personal.
    3. 0
      13 February 2024 21: 21
      Remember! Not so long ago, our Danube ports were a nightmare, but the Odessa port suffered a lot. But not now! But our tankers and grain carriers from Novorossiysk go to the Bosporus and Dardanelles without any problems. That's the whole point. This is C'est la vie.
  2. +21
    13 February 2024 05: 11
    Great article. Actually closing the topic. There are two reasons, and both are reflected in the article.
    1) Both the Russian Federation and Ukraine “specially operate” within a very narrow corridor of what is permitted. What actually makes the conflict a dead end and mutually losing. The only question now is the extent of this loss for each side.
    2) Within this corridor, from a purely military point of view, the capabilities of Maidan Ukraine in the Black Sea gradually grew (thanks to the supply of weapons and information), ours decreased accordingly. Now the Black Sea Fleet can launch Calibers and more or less successfully repel enemy UAV attacks.
    1. -7
      13 February 2024 08: 47
      Belisarius. The cargo turnover of the port of Novorossiysk alone for 2023 is 161 million tons, Taman is 40 million tons, there is also a passage through the Kerch Strait, there are no figures for it. Once you can guess who is guarding this cargo turnover? The United States is sleeping and sees that this cargo flow will stop and they will not Moreover, insurance and freight are already high for Russian Black Sea ports. Articles should be written not only on the basis of Western information dumps - these comrades write everything with secret intent, everything has been lost in Russia. hi
      1. +19
        13 February 2024 09: 55
        Articles should be written not only on the basis of Western information dumps

        Exactly! They should be written based on the Evening with Vladimir Solovyov! wink laughing
        1. 0
          13 February 2024 10: 11
          Soloviev does not touch on these topics, I use for information only sites that are in this business, whether Russian or Western. bully tongue
    2. +25
      13 February 2024 09: 48
      And from this it follows that the Russian Federation is certainly not a world power and not a sovereign country, so that they don’t shout about nuclear weapons, which only remains the last, but dubious bogeyman.
  3. +3
    13 February 2024 05: 18
    if the Black Sea Fleet is not able to organize a blockade, why is the port infrastructure itself not destroyed?

    But in fact, why?
    1. +29
      13 February 2024 06: 57
      Because it’s a gladiolus. The Kremlin’s pants are empty. That’s the whole reason
      1. +18
        13 February 2024 09: 38
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        .The Kremlin’s pants are empty

        But there are plenty of pockets in the West.
        1. +2
          13 February 2024 14: 27
          Andrey, this is probably the main reason, not only pockets in the west, but everything else
          1. +2
            13 February 2024 14: 28
            Quote: g0ryachevnn
            not only pockets in the west, but everything else

            I agree.
      2. +1
        13 February 2024 12: 15
        it depends on which side of your pants
  4. -15
    13 February 2024 05: 24
    The question arises: why, after the formal completion of the grain deal, is it, in fact, still functioning?

    Maybe this is how we help African countries fight hunger? Not directly, but by looking away from supplies from Ukraine.
    1. +1
      13 February 2024 08: 27
      Quote from Fangaro
      The question arises: why, after the formal completion of the grain deal, is it, in fact, still functioning?

      Maybe this is how we help African countries fight hunger? Not directly, but by looking away from supplies from Ukraine.

      If Russia was worried about hunger in Africa, then it would be possible not to leave the Grain Deal. Then at least the illusion of control of the situation would be preserved and it would be shown that it is Russia that allows exports for the sake of African blacks. And it is not Russia that is interfering with all its might, but is too weak to do anything.
    2. +6
      13 February 2024 12: 58
      The question arises: why, after the formal completion of the grain deal, is it, in fact, still functioning?

      We don't have a redder. He would explain that the blockade of cargo transportation is organized with the help of submarines. There are already 5 Varshavyankas in the Black Sea Fleet. More than. negative
      1. +4
        13 February 2024 20: 46
        I’ll add that submarines don’t need to hang out there all the time, they can look where ships with grain are sailing and set mines there. A couple of hundred pieces. Then go prove whose mine it is
  5. +10
    13 February 2024 05: 26
    What about the ammonia “corridor”? Our queue of ships on the Taman Peninsula for ammonia has not increased; the number of ship calls has remained the same, and for grain it has not increased, it has even decreased. Don’t forget that Russian grain is also exported through Odessa, not only Ukrainian, but also Russian. For the port to function, its infrastructure needs to be completely demolished, not just one or two berths.
    1. +7
      13 February 2024 06: 17
      Quote: parusnik
      Don't forget that Russian goods are also exported through Odessa grain, not only Ukrainian, but also Russian.
      This is an interesting detail. I recently bought a bottle of kagbe Ukrainian Chumak sunflower oil in a “Russian” store. They don’t produce their own in America; they have refined Turkish stuff in supermarkets, but you can’t find unrefined stuff except in “Russian” stores. There has been no Russian butter for a long time; the stores say it’s because of sanctions. Label in language and English. So I read the label, and it says that it was produced in the city of Kakhovka, Kherson region in March 2023. Emnip, Kakhovka was liberated from the Nazis back in 2022.
      1. +11
        13 February 2024 06: 21
        There is no Russian oil for a long time
        They lie shamelessly, it is exported, then it is bottled by the person to whom it was brought.
        1. +6
          13 February 2024 06: 27
          Quote: parusnik
          They lie shamelessly, it is exported, then it is bottled by the person to whom it was brought.
          Maybe they’re lying, I have nothing else to do except ask them for invoices. Another thing is curious: why is it that in almost 2 years the Russian Kakhovka still produces oil under the Ukrainian brand and with the marking on the language? And also Product of Ukraine?
          1. +10
            13 February 2024 06: 33
            Who will show you the documents where the oil was produced? The main thing is where the spill occurred.
            2 years ago, how is the Russian Kakhovka still producing oil under the Ukrainian brand and with the marking on the language? And also Product of Ukraine?
            Think about something else, from which port it is exported... From Kherson...
          2. +2
            13 February 2024 16: 39
            Quote: Nagan
            Another thing is curious: why is it that in almost 2 years the Russian Kakhovka still produces oil under the Ukrainian brand and with the marking on the language? And also Product of Ukraine?

            And who told YOU that this was produced in Kakhovka? Judging by the news, there are arrivals there almost every day. What kind of production can there be under such conditions? And you can print the label wherever you want
          3. +2
            14 February 2024 19: 28
            Because if the oil is produced under Russian delusion, and even Product of Russia, then it will be impossible to sell this oil from you (and in general, anywhere except the Russian Federation itself).
        2. +1
          13 February 2024 09: 06
          Quote: parusnik
          They lie shamelessly, it is exported, then it is bottled by the person to whom it was brought.

          It is not that simple. https://b2b-postavki.ru/predstavitel/kahovskiy-filial-zao-ao-kargill.html
        3. +6
          13 February 2024 09: 51
          So, a fellow American is telling you about the address of production, not bottling. So they don't have to lie.
    2. +3
      13 February 2024 10: 39
      Don’t forget that Russian grain is also exported through Odessa, not only Ukrainian, but also Russian.

      Sorry, but how does it get there?
  6. +4
    13 February 2024 05: 42
    Are there really no Soviet-made mines left in warehouses? Throw them from submarines in those places where grain carriers go, and let them be distinguished from those who threw banderlogs back in 2022, and the currents and winds carry who knows where, even to the Bosporus. And as soon as a couple of grain trucks gurgle to the bottom, the insurance will rise so much that it will turn this grain into gold. And the minesweepers that the small Britons donated are still stuck in Britain, because the Montreux Convention does not allow them through the straits, so there is nothing to trawl with.
    Yes, and submarines should also have torpedoes, and when the grain truck gurgles, go figure out what it blew up on. They will not carry out diving work in the middle of winter and war. And in the summer we can already say that the divers brought the fragments of the torpedo with them, fortunately there was enough time.
    1. 0
      19 February 2024 22: 07
      Quote: Nagan
      Throw them from submarines in places where grain trucks go

      For what ? Ukrainian grain at dumping prices is destroying farms producing wheat, corn, sunflower grain... in the EU! wassat
  7. +13
    13 February 2024 05: 58
    Why isn't Russia trying to block the grain corridor?


    The question is interesting.

    But a more interesting question is: Why does Russia not stop the supply of LNG to our enemies - the NATO countries.
    Supplies of Russian LNG to Europe through a hub in Belgium have increased sharply
    https://nangs.org/news/midstream/postavki-rossijskogo-spg-v-evropu-cherez-khab-v-belgii-rezko-vyrosli

    Belgium increased purchases of Russian LNG sixfold
    https://ria.ru/20231221/belgiya-1917119022.html


    After all, these are our enemies.

    Kiriyenko: NATO is waging war against the Russian Federation with the aim of eliminating it as a sovereign state https://tass.ru/politika/16127605

    “In essence, NATO now acts as a single bloc, no longer as our conventional opponents, but as enemies. Their intelligence works against us 24 hours a day, their weapons, as Putin emphasized in a recent interview, are supplied to Ukraine free of charge and shoot at our military,” I not to mention the fact that Ukrainian citizens are being shot at, Ukrainian cities and villages are being shelled - commitments are being made and collective decisions are being made within NATO on new deliveries, on new batches of weapons with a constant increase in their technical level. These countries are France, England, The United States is now in the same organization, which is de facto at war with us, is in a state of direct armed confrontation with us, given their weapons in Ukraine,” Peskov said in an interview with the publication. https://www.interfax.ru/russia/887950


    Thus, Russia will not be able to successfully carry out the Northern Military District.
    This is complete nonsense: here we fight, but here we trade.
    You can not do it this way.
    1. +9
      13 February 2024 06: 19
      Quote: AA17
      Why Russia does not stop the supply of LNG to our enemies - NATO countries
      Nothing personal, just business lol
      1. +5
        13 February 2024 06: 48
        Nothing personal, just business


        If this were a business.
        The Russian state receives little from these LNG supplies to Europe.
        LNG is supplied from Yamal LNG by NOVATEK.

        The commissioning of the plant is a credit not only to shareholders, but also to Russian taxpayers, who generously subsidized them. The Yuzhno-Tambeyskoye field, which serves as a resource base for Yamal LNG, will be exempt from the mineral extraction tax on gas in the first 12 years of production, provided that its total volume during this period does not exceed 250 billion cubic meters. m. Under the same conditions, an exemption from property tax and benefits on income tax were provided, which will be not 18%, but 13,5%. Until the end of construction of the plant, shareholders are exempt from paying VAT when purchasing equipment that has no analogues in Russia, and upon completion they will be able to take advantage of a zero duty on LNG exports.

        The project also received direct subsidies: in 2015, the government approved the purchase of Yamal LNG bonds for 150 billion rubles. from the National Welfare Fund. Three-quarters (71 billion out of 96 billion rubles) financed the construction of the Sabetta cargo port...
        https://www.rbc.ru/opinions/business/11/12/2017/5a2e37599a79476b576c3f91

        "... Of course, from a formal point of view, a private company can pay anyone and for anything. However, Novatek is a special private company, the scale of support and financing of which by the state allows us to say that it intends to finance the Anglo-Dutch Shell with money Russian taxpayers.

        After all, Novatek not only received gas fields without a competition. He is literally showered with benefits that Gazprom itself would envy: complete exemption from the export duty on LNG, and from the tax on gas production for liquefaction, and from property tax for LNG projects. Income tax is paid at the minimum permissible rate of 13,5%. The total benefits of Novatek can be estimated at more than 150 billion rubles. in year.

        Moreover: the budgetary National Welfare Fund allocated him 150 billion rubles. and government investment in infrastructure (over 71 billion for the construction of the Sabetta port). Finally, the same federal budget generously pays for the construction of an icebreaker fleet to ensure the export of products from the Yamal LNG and Arctic LNG-2 projects..."
        https://www.ng.ru/vision/2023-04-20/100_180520042023.html
        1. -16
          13 February 2024 08: 41
          Quote: AA17
          Finally, the same federal budget generously pays for the construction of an icebreaker fleet to ensure the export of products from the Yamal LNG and Arctic LNG-2 projects...

          Yes Yes. The icebreaker fleet and the Northern Sea Route are not at all an all-Russian project (Arctic, awww...), but are needed exclusively and only by Novatek laughing

          LNG supply comes from Yamal LNG company NOVATEK

          IMHO the state is raising another cow for sausage. We remember YUKOS, think a lot, and only then write something. Anal tags.
          1. +10
            13 February 2024 09: 37
            Oh well. The state raised a cow. And my uncle milks the milk
          2. +5
            13 February 2024 09: 44
            Oh well.
            The state raised a cow. And the “uncle” milks the milk and keeps the profit for himself.
            These are your fantasies that the state is raising for itself.
            Name the date when this cow will be transferred to the state, so as not to be unfounded.
            1. -10
              13 February 2024 09: 57
              Quote: AA17
              Name the date when this cow will be transferred to the state, so as not to be unfounded

              Answer the question about the icebreaker fleet so as not to be unfounded wink laughing
              1. +5
                13 February 2024 10: 47
                The icebreaker fleet will be built by the state and then transferred to private hands. Well, what about the new Moscow-Kazan highway? This is called a private-public partnership.
                1. -13
                  13 February 2024 10: 55
                  Quote: AA17
                  The icebreaker fleet will be built by the state and then transferred to private hands

                  You're answering the wrong question again. Let me remind you that the question was whether the Northern Sea Route (and, accordingly, the icebreaker fleet) is needed by Novatek alone, or whether it, Novatek, is testing the use of the Northern Sea Route for regular transportation.

                  And, yes - about the icebreaker fleet:

                  NBC News: Russia is ten years or more ahead of the United States in Arctic exploration

                  Google it and you will be rewarded. Buddies Yes
                2. +1
                  13 February 2024 11: 27
                  Quote: AA17
                  The icebreaker fleet will be built by the state and then transferred to private hands.

                  Why then did the state not transfer the existing fleet into private hands? Which icebreaker you poke at - either Rosmorrechflot with its FSUE Rosmorport, or Rosatom in general and its FSUE Atomflot.
                  And yes, a ship with a nuclear power plant in private hands is already interesting. Especially in terms of coordinating port calls and basing/supply. laughing
        2. +2
          13 February 2024 09: 34
          So the surname “Mikhelson” does mean something.
      2. 0
        19 February 2024 22: 16
        Quote: Nagan
        Nothing personal, just business

        Yes, yes, American, your business sharks also like to buy Russian goods. And your unsecured candy wrappers have accumulated so much in the Russian Federation that the budget rule (about selling part of foreign currency earnings to the state) has been abolished!
        It was not smart congressmen in the United States who decided to stop global trade with sanctions. laughing
    2. +10
      13 February 2024 06: 35
      Why doesn't Russia stop supplying LNG to our enemies - NATO countries.
      And uranium supplies to the USA have increased..
    3. +28
      13 February 2024 06: 43
      Quote: AA17
      You can not do it this way.

      This is exactly what you see from the TV advertisement, where Olga Buzova shouts, “You can!” The article aptly notes that “global players moderating the military conflict in Ukraine indicate certain rules that political players must comply with" This explains all the oddities of the SVO. Eight years of not recognizing Donbass, not supporting the “Russian Spring”, in general, doing everything in order to squander the possibilities and legality of intervention in the unconstitutional coup d’etat in Ukraine. Do everything to ensure that Crimea, because of such a policy, becomes annexation, and the Northern Military District becomes aggression. Tons of ammunition fly away, huge expenses and sacrifices are made, and all under the guise of unprecedented success, amid fireworks and holidays. Two years of SVO, and before the declared denazification and demilitarization, it’s like before “Beijing barefoot.” From all the “irons” about success, about the fact that you can’t rush. In addition to this, we sell raw materials to enemies, they say, otherwise others will sell them...
      Soon, we must understand, there will be an agreement to freeze the conflict. Why is this so? Maybe because the anti-constitutional coup took place in Moscow earlier than in Kyiv, back in 1991, and our new capitalists have long been firmly under the West, and the authorities are only puffing out their cheeks and doing what is already impossible not to do?
      1. +4
        13 February 2024 09: 37
        Sergei Markov, as they say now, is “from the Kremlin pool”: “Western elites are confident that Russia really wants to end the war in Ukraine through the “Korean option,” that is, simply stop hostilities along the LBS without any conditions.
        This is exactly how the West understood Putin’s interview with Carlson and other Russian “hints,” as they believe.
        The West does not want peace according to this simple option and demands concessions from Russia.
        That is, the West believes that if anything, then the “Korean option” is “in their pocket.” That if they offer it, the Kremlin will instantly agree."

        Will “Vilna Ukraine” grow in territory as a result of the “NWO” thanks to invitations to negotiations from those who “have not yet started” and, apparently, will not begin?
    4. +11
      13 February 2024 08: 08
      Here we fight, and here we trade.
      Let's agree that there is no Soviet Union and patriotism is only for those who go to the trenches. Everyone else is doing business.
      Just re-read the recent interview, everything is frank there. What you fantasize is of no interest to anyone except you personally.
      Finally, ask yourself why so many billionaires (Forbes can help) have seen their net worth increase significantly over the past year.
    5. -7
      13 February 2024 08: 38
      Quote: AA17
      This is complete nonsense: here we fight, but here we trade

      However, the materiel:

      Quote: Lenin
      politics is a concentrated expression of economics

      Quote: Clausewitz
      War is a continuation of politics by other means

      Economics is primary, politics is secondary, war... well, it’s clear. And, yes, it wasn’t me who said it, Lenin said it.

      Quote: AA17
      You can not do it this way

      So it was, is and will be request
      1. +4
        13 February 2024 13: 42
        Quote: Repellent
        So it was, is and will be

        Eh Roma, I mixed everything together. According to the theses, everything seems to be correct, but there was not a word about the simultaneity of these wonderful people. Trade relations during hostilities went sour. It’s one thing when we continued trade relations with the United States during the war in Korea and Vietnam, where we were de facto not a party to the conflict, but it’s another thing now to pump gas through the territory of a direct enemy.
        1. -8
          13 February 2024 13: 57
          Tambov wolf for you Roma. And don’t poke anywhere - the recoil will torture you laughing

          And now to the essence of your question: I answered this:

          Quote: AA17
          But a more interesting question is: Why does Russia not stop the supply of LNG to our enemies - the NATO countries. After all, these are our enemies. This is complete nonsense: here we fight, but here we trade.
          You can not do it this way

          Everything here seems to be almost correct. The NATO countries are our “worst partners,” their master is waging a proxy war with us, and we trade with them. Where did you get into the Kalash row? What does it have to do with yours

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          pump gas through the territory of a direct enemy

          ?

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          The United States and I continued trade relations during the wars in Korea and Vietnam, where we were not de facto a party to the conflict

          Not de facto, but de jure, the USSR was not a party to the conflict in Vietnam. Well, NATO countries are also, de jure, not a party to the conflict in Ukraine, what’s the difference? Please explain, don't be shy wink
          1. +5
            13 February 2024 14: 25
            Quote: Repellent
            Tambov wolf for you Roma.

            Have you changed your name? belay I hope it doesn’t come to a gender change? wink
            Here too, you are trying to pull off some kind of cunning move, trying to justify supplies to NATO countries, forgetting only one thing - sanctions were imposed against us, including a ban on the supply of sanitary ware. They don’t sell us toilets, paying in ephemeral numbers on accounts. With which we can only buy something in third world countries.
            It’s like a one-goal game, don’t you think?
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                2. +1
                  14 February 2024 12: 21
                  why do you need a toilet from the EU? there are plenty of our own
                  1. 0
                    14 February 2024 13: 29
                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    why do you need a toilet from the EU? there are plenty of our own

                    Just don’t say that you use domestic cosmetics! wassat
                    1. +1
                      14 February 2024 15: 09
                      there are no imported ones, we don’t have cosmetics, but there are plenty of toilets
                      1. 0
                        14 February 2024 15: 14
                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        there are no imported ones, we don’t have cosmetics, but there are plenty of toilets

                        We have cosmetics, but the quality leaves much to be desired. The situation is the same with most plumbing fixtures. As with many other things. And this is all because some people justified the lack of development of their industry by the globalization of the economy. As a result, we are left broke, robbed, and are waging a war according to the standards of the First World War.
                  2. 0
                    19 February 2024 22: 20
                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    why do you need a toilet from the EU? there are plenty of our own

                    They even sell gold plated ones! Any whim, for my rubles. hi
    6. +2
      13 February 2024 12: 33
      Why not?
      This is normal under capitalist relations.
      And it’s not about corruption, officials and those in the leadership of the Russian Federation and the Moscow Region.
      As long as the majority of our population is satisfied that the main measure of everything is money, it will be so.
    7. 0
      13 February 2024 20: 51
      Quote: AA17
      Thus, Russia will not be able to successfully carry out the Northern Military District.
      This is complete nonsense: here we fight, but here we trade.

      Unfortunately, all this is reminiscent of the Sino-Japanese War. There, too, at first, Asia is for the Asians, we will drive out the Anglo-Saxons, we fight in this part of the city, we don’t fight in this part. I hope we don’t sink to the level of the Japanese...
    8. -1
      13 February 2024 22: 32
      But a more interesting question: Why doesn't Russia stop supplying LNG to our enemies? - NATO countries.

      1) the answer is in the same plane as why we do not stop the supply of Russian fuel for nuclear power plants in the USA - Russia accounts for 50 percent of the world trade in uranium derivatives (not ore and not refined ore, but a higher processing stage, from which tablets are directly molded).
      themselves (USA) They can’t do that anymore!
      Russia's gas industry must develop, not wither away.
      2) the money goes to the budget (the export duty on gas alone is 30 percent) - for tanks, planes, roads and salaries.
      .
      you need to stop at the right time.
      is now arriving at the western borders 220 billion cubic meters of gas. This is our money.
      and the pipes are running idle, in Yamal the valves have been tightened.
      to replace Nord Streams, they are talking about LNG and obtaining expensive gases purified from methane (plants are being completed in Ust-Luga) - his IT WILL ALREADY BE POSSIBLE TO BE TRAVELED TO ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, and not just to NATO. it's somewhere 30 billion cubic meters
      the existing northern deliveries of LNG by ship are a trump card. and stopping them is throwing a trump card at six. Turn the helm of the ship briefly to another sea. do you want to openly challenge global corporations right now? you are ready? 50 percent of their property and technology is there, if that.
      Against this background, a gas engine is needed. and it has already begun with the construction of a gas pipeline to the Murmansk region - gasification of the region and an LNG plant - consider that there is at least more 40bn out of 220 will go there.
      replacement (stop) is slowly being prepared, as you ask
      1. +1
        13 February 2024 22: 47
        the money goes to the budget (the export duty on gas alone is 30 percent) - for tanks, planes, roads and salaries.


        You didn't read my links carefully.

        The Yuzhno-Tambeyskoye field, which serves as a resource base for Yamal LNG, will be exempt from the mineral extraction tax on gas in the first 12 years of production, provided that its total volume during this period does not exceed 250 billion cubic meters. m. Under the same conditions, an exemption from property tax and benefits on income tax were provided, which will be not 18%, but 13,5%. Until the end of construction of the plant, shareholders are exempt from paying VAT when purchasing equipment that has no analogues in Russia, and upon completion they will be able to take advantage of a zero duty on LNG exports.
        https://www.rbc.ru/opinions/business/11/12/2017/5a2e37599a79476b576c3f91
        1. +2
          13 February 2024 22: 59
          What money goes into the budget if there is a tax exemption for 12 years?
          1. -2
            13 February 2024 23: 17
            What money is in the budget?

            TAXES+TAXES+TAXES.
            taxes consist not only of mineral extraction tax. Moreover, it is indicated there - 250 billion cubic meters! everything has been calculated
            .
            South Tambeyskoye field
            there is more than one deposit there!
            .
            Under the same conditions, an exemption from property tax and benefits on income tax were provided, which will be not 18%, but 13,5%.
            So what? I translate: otherwise the investor would not have come in and it would have been zero!
            .
            Until the end of construction of the plant, shareholders are exempt from paying VAT when purchasing equipment that has no analogues in Russia,
            Well? should you translate again?
            translate: American-French capitalist imports sanctioned equipment into the country, in exchange, they will not take part of certain taxes from him for a certain time.
            Do you need to know the exact number of days? So these are government-commercial contracts with a stamp. Later they will tell you how the equipment will be delivered so that other businessmen don’t have to bite their elbows too much.
          2. -2
            13 February 2024 23: 18
            Quote: AA17
            What money goes into the budget if there is a tax exemption for 12 years?

            Hm. You yourself wrote a little higher:

            Quote: AA17
            income tax benefits, which will be not 18%, but 13,5%

            This 13.5% of profit, for example.

            Quote: AA17
            You didn't read my links carefully

            It seems like you haven’t really understood them yourself. request laughing
      2. 0
        13 February 2024 22: 55
        for tanks, planes, roads and salaries.


        Do you think that the money received from the sale of gas and oil to our enemies will console Russian mothers and widows, who will know that the enemy weapons that killed their loved ones were made using Russian natural resources?
        1. -3
          13 February 2024 23: 03
          Quote: AA17
          Do you think that the money received from the sale of gas and oil to our enemies will console Russian mothers and widows, who will know that the enemy weapons that killed their loved ones were made using Russian natural resources?

          Here you go. You quickly broke down on the specifics, now you decided to go into demagoguery.

          It suits you better, yeah Yes
  8. +11
    13 February 2024 06: 05
    The author has said more than once that global players moderating the military conflict in Ukraine indicate certain rules that political players must comply with


    What do SVO moderators even allow? To destroy the infrastructure exclusively of the regions of the Russian Federation?... The Houthis sent the most important sea traffic on the African journey. But the “moderators” of the General Staff turned out to be incapable of this. It’s no longer even possible to comment legally.
    1. +2
      13 February 2024 20: 52
      Quote: samarin1969
      To distribute the infrastructure exclusively of the regions of the Russian Federation?

      It is possible to hunt Russian politicians and other bloggers and journalists, but it is not possible to hunt Ukrainian ones.
  9. +11
    13 February 2024 06: 22
    In my opinion, with regard to the military component of the functioning of this grain corridor, it is the weakness of the Russian Black Sea Fleet that can explain this disgrace in the Black Sea. Here you can understand not only the author of the article, but also the admirals who argue that “all is lost” if Turkey lets NATO ships into the Black Sea. A reasonable question is, what is the purpose of the Black Sea Fleet in this case? It turns out that the US fleet can expel the Russian Black Sea Fleet from the Black Sea, but the “virtuous” Turkey does not allow the American? As for the “commercial” part of this “grain corridor”, perhaps such commerce, with its huge profits from it, is what saves Turkey Black Sea Fleet from..."everything is gone."
    1. +3
      13 February 2024 10: 12
      "in my opinion, with regard to the military component of the functioning of this grain corridor, it is precisely the weakness of the Russian Black Sea Fleet that can explain this outrage"
      that is, the Black Sea Fleet does not fight of its own accord, and hid in distant ports? Is it commanded by soldiers' committees, or is it still the supreme commander-in-chief of all? who do we have today? from the very beginning until now, the entire Russian Federation did not have any power capabilities in this deal. It’s not even a matter of weakness and inability to fight, it’s a matter of the lack of command orders forcing one to do this. all words and gestures made since then are just puffing out one’s cheeks.
    2. 0
      13 February 2024 23: 03
      north 2
      (Vidas) A reasonable question: what is the purpose of the Black Sea Fleet in this case?

      this is a great question.
      you just need to take into account the increased
      range,
      quantity,
      autonomy and ability to independently target the old and already new weapons (missiles, fire ships, UAVs)
      and reconnaissance assets (space primarily)
      everything needs to be reconsidered. and, apparently, have already been revised.
      .
      IMHO
      if right now you are appointed commander of the Black Sea Fleet and I give you 20 destroyers and frigates from my pocket, they will all gradually be overwhelmed - they will attack from the shore, simply overload the ships’ air defenses and sink them.
      in the Black Sea, many weapons reach ships at the right moment for the adversary
  10. +16
    13 February 2024 06: 22
    And if we assume that on February 24 no one was going to carry out denazification and demilitarization in Ukraine, the plans were slightly different: 1 to scare the West (by the West we mean the USA and Britain) and knock out certain “goodies” from it. But the West was not afraid; moreover, it knew very well about our plans, was ready and even pushed for the start of the Northeast Military District.
    1. +8
      13 February 2024 06: 37
      A bold assumption, not without foundation. Like with Iraq, they pushed them towards Kuwait, and then bam, an international coalition...against Iraq..
    2. +20
      13 February 2024 06: 37
      2. put godfather on the board. But here, too, things didn’t go according to plan. It took at least a week for the godfather to move into the basements of the SBU. Predictably, he didn’t commit any “heroes” and handed over everyone and everything, “got in touch” with reports - everything is going according to plan. They and a dozen of their generals shot during the period of time - a week before the start of the Northern Military District and the first week after the start. Betting on godfather turned out to be the worst possible option.... This explains a lot
      1. +4
        13 February 2024 06: 57
        I’ll write for our “hurray-patriots” - how it was possible to resolve the issues of denazification and demilitarization through a “negotiation” in March 22. The example of Germany does not apply here. Firstly, Germany was occupied and they acted quite harshly on its territory. Secondly, the Germans are a “law-abiding nation”, they were told that the war was over, they had to go to work tomorrow, and they threw down their weapons and went to work the next day.... In Ukraine, and even in Russia, this option would not have worked.
        1. +2
          13 February 2024 07: 38
          But what, in Russia or Ukraine armies can operate independently of the State?
          You are just the second Yavlinsky, who argued that the Russian people won the Second World War against the will of the Bolsheviks.....

          It’s curious, why do the Russian people need statehood then? And then why do they criticize our politicians on every occasion?
          If something is “wrong” in Russia, do it “this way”.....
      2. +1
        13 February 2024 07: 00
        They and a dozen of their generals shot during the period of time - a week before the start of the Northern Military District and the first week after the start.


        I came across this information.
        It looks like there are “moles” in the Kremlin who transmitted information to the West about the beginning of the Northern Military District.
        1. +2
          13 February 2024 07: 22
          Zaluzhny himself stated this in an interview, although he spoke about removal from positions... He couldn’t say directly that they had been shot.
        2. +19
          13 February 2024 08: 31
          Quote: AA17
          I came across this information.
          It looks like there are “moles” in the Kremlin who transmitted information to the West about the beginning of the Northern Military District.

          How come the Americans have been yelling at all of Ivanovskaya from all the media for almost a whole year about preparations for the Northern Military District and its imminent start. They posted photos from the spies' satellites, showed the deployment of troops, listed combat units, the number of tanks, aircraft, directions of attacks, etc.

          Why are people's memories so bad? wassat
          What the hell Mole. From all the irons it was rushing and everyone in the world clearly saw all the movements of troops, and the huge preparations for the invasion.
          1. +3
            13 February 2024 12: 47
            Several years before the start of the North Military District, a series of command post exercises and war games were held under the general theme “Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine.” The results of these games were made public. And the coup was carried out amid shouts of “Moskalyak to Gilyak,” which indicated the final goal.
  11. +11
    13 February 2024 06: 36
    Just SVO is Сimulacre Вoenny Оoperations. Only our descendants will know what actually happened and is happening. And not everyone will know.
  12. +7
    13 February 2024 08: 02
    The impression from the article is that we were deceived, deceived by those who say that they were deceived more than once.
    1. +4
      13 February 2024 09: 03
      Well, didn’t you read about yesterday’s meeting at the UN, again it was said that agreements were not being respected and they were being deceived.
      1. +5
        13 February 2024 09: 15
        No, I got acquainted with the news that the Ukrainian elite was coming over to our side.
        1. +7
          13 February 2024 09: 57
          Yes, the news was interesting, it’s just a pity that it’s from the planet of pink ponies. hi
    2. +5
      13 February 2024 10: 35
      “The plan, needless to say, was excellent; simple and clear, it couldn’t have been better. It had only one drawback: it was completely unknown how to carry it out.” Lewis Carroll "Alice in Wonderland"
  13. +8
    13 February 2024 08: 26
    As far as I understand, the topic of the blockade of Ukrainian grain ports was never raised within the framework of the Northern Military District - it was only about blocking arms supplies.

    There are also no attempts to block the western border of Ukraine - and such a goal has not been voiced.

    Bloggers' statements and someone's dreams are bloggers' statements and someone's dreams. Why so much outrage?
  14. +1
    13 February 2024 08: 39
    The question arises: why, after the formal completion of the grain deal, is it, in fact, still functioning?

    "We're not like that!"
    1. +2
      13 February 2024 11: 29
      Quote: Vladimir80
      "We're not like that!"

      No need to be like that! © wink
  15. +8
    13 February 2024 08: 54
    In 11 days it will be 2 years from the beginning of the SVO. And the goals, like the “red lines”... But it was necessary to continue in 2014. Until sensible people in Ukraine were strangled. As a result, we have what we have. angry
    1. +15
      13 February 2024 09: 12
      Quote: bandabas
      So far, sensible people in Ukraine have not been strangled. As a result, we have what we have.

      Apparently Russia doesn’t need sensible people either. It's fraught, you know.
      1. +3
        13 February 2024 10: 46
        “The plan, needless to say, was excellent; simple and clear, it couldn’t have been better. It had only one drawback: it was completely unknown how to carry it out.” Lewis Carroll "Alice in Wonderland"
    2. +13
      13 February 2024 09: 20
      VO authors like to draw parallels with the Great Patriotic War... So, after two years of the Great Patriotic War... the enemy was defeated at Moscow, Stalingrad, the backbone of Nazism was broken at the Kursk Bulge... Our territory of the DPR has not been completely liberated, the Kherson region without Kherson, Zaporozhye ,without Zaporozhye, a little bit of Kharkov...
      1. -10
        13 February 2024 12: 51
        If we draw parallels with the Second World War, we were stuck for two years somewhere in the middle of the Finnish war.
        And yet there are significant differences - now the basis of the fascists are Slavs and Jews, in Russia there is capitalism, people don’t really want to start families and give birth to children and raise them, many from the bottom to the top have formed the thinking of the inhabitants of the colony.
        So the task before us is not simple.
        And we need to listen more carefully to what exactly the President is saying - despite all the horror of what is happening, the NWO is not yet a war. WAR is ahead and we must be prepared for it.
  16. +12
    13 February 2024 09: 46
    In general, they were puffing up for a ruble, but it turned out to be a penny, in other words, once again so thin...
  17. +8
    13 February 2024 10: 01
    How can the Russian Federation interfere if it is firmly “involved” in the world economy? Have they forgotten the slogans about the energy “superpower”.
    Even the server of this site is in the USA.
  18. Eug
    0
    13 February 2024 10: 12
    Two questions: Was the Black Sea Fleet even going to fight? And secondly, if “the parties moderating the conflict in Ukraine define some rules” that include the “grain deal,” maybe Russia should worry about including the “microelectronics” and “oil” deals in these rules? Although God forbid microelectronics goes with
    "investments"...
  19. +8
    13 February 2024 10: 22
    The author is right. There is some kind of behind-the-scenes area that a select few are aware of. Even taking into account the fact that the Black Sea Fleet is weak and poorly managed, sinking ships in ukrovod is not a difficult matter. And even more so in ports. I can imagine the following agreement: the Turks tell us not to touch these ships, and we say it’s good for them, but there are no NATO military ships through the straits.
    1. 0
      13 February 2024 13: 53
      I agree with you.
      The agreement is most likely with the Turks.
  20. +4
    13 February 2024 12: 40
    Putin has a distinctive feature (to sit or sit out), in the hope that everything will resolve. And Ukrainian producers understand this very well. The situation with the Russian World Cup for years to come.
  21. BAI
    +5
    13 February 2024 13: 02
    The statement that Russia is losing the battle for the Black Sea is actually not entirely correct

    Absolutely right. Russia lost the battle for the Black Sea
  22. +8
    13 February 2024 13: 16
    As I have always said, and I am sure that the keys to victory in the Northern Administrative Okrug on one side or the other are in the hands of the United States. Whatever they decide, so it will be. If we wanted Ukraine to win, we would give it everything it needs. If we wanted Russia to win, we wouldn’t set conditions for it on what it can do and what it can’t. Russia is not sovereign, and neither is X*. I don’t understand why the volunteers on our side are fighting?
  23. -1
    13 February 2024 16: 31
    It is not possible to prevent the grain deal with the help of the Black Sea Fleet, due to its weakness and the presence of high-precision weapons by the enemy.

    A purely propaganda statement by the author, grist for the Ukronazi propaganda mill. The Black Sea Fleet officially has 6 MRK Project 21631 and 6 submarines Project 636. If every day for two years one of these ships was released on a combat mission at sea and only 4 “Caliber” were released, then 2920 missiles would have already turned the entire coast of the “under-built” into beaches with volcanic or lunar landscapes.
    The length of the coastline is 2835 km.
    This is about Ukraine in 1991.
    The total length of the borders is 6992 km, the length of the sea border is 1355 km (along the Black Sea - 1056,5 km; along the Sea of ​​Azov - 249,5 km[57]), the length of the land border is 5637 km[58].
    From 2022, remove the territories lost forever and you can remember the words of an American general from the Air Force during the Korean War of the last century: “There are no targets left for bombers on the territory of North Korea!”
    In addition to 4 Calibers, submarines could take on board at least a dozen mines. As a result, in two years this would amount to 7300 pieces. Food for thought:
    In total, in 1941, the Red Banner Baltic Fleet deployed 11978 mines and 2088 mine defenders.

    Although I often criticize the fleet, in fairness, it requires political will and industrial potential. The author is wrong.
  24. +1
    13 February 2024 18: 08
    It's simple. If we “extinguish” the new grain corridor, the Angos-Saxons will blow up our gas pipelines at the bottom of the Black Sea. Therefore, everyone pretends that nothing is happening. From start to finish, the SVO is based on various kinds of unspoken agreements.
  25. +2
    13 February 2024 20: 17
    "There is no more grain deal, but the grain corridor is still functioning"
    This means that this was first and foremost a PR campaign, and at the same time an attempt to come to an agreement and test things out.
    The attempts yielded some results, and the PR was curtailed.

    You can remember the noodles on your ears, you can not, everyone will decide for themselves....
    IMHO, it was designed for “victims of the exam”, because even the blacks were not particularly interested - they say, give us money, and bring us grain for free (they spoke at the conference, officially)

    Who in the media now remembers the then “anti-colonial association”?
    the PR is over, “the circus has left and the clowns have fled” - probably...
  26. 0
    13 February 2024 20: 26
    Colleagues, our cargo ships sail unhindered in the Black Sea and are not attacked, gas and oil are transported through the pipeline system through the territory of Ukraine and are not blown up. We continue to supply oil, gas, fertilizers, coal, timber, metallurgical products, including to Europe, and this is not interfered with; supplies are being supplied from Russia to the territory of the Kaliningrad region, including through the territory of Lithuania, which is not our supporter and does not interfere with railway transportation and the displacement of ordinary citizens. In reality, there are a large number of “tacit agreements”.
  27. -4
    13 February 2024 22: 13
    why interfere with the grain corridor? have you seen European farmers going on strike!? that’s the point. And you’re talking about the weakness and inability of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. everything that was brought to Odessa with weapons was effectively destroyed, according to data from Odessa residents, or the Russian intelligence.
    besides, why use the fleet to blockade Odessa if this can be safely done with the help of coastal Bastion complexes? this has already been demonstrated. forgotten?
    1. +1
      15 February 2024 12: 50
      In Europe they are constantly on strike, nothing is destroyed until it reaches the front.
  28. +1
    13 February 2024 23: 31
    Unfortunately, we have a very decent president! He does not approve of terrorism in any form! Otherwise, they would have hit, like the Houthis, any cargo ship leaving the sweat of Odessa or the mouth of the Danube and that’s all! The end of the “grain corridor”!
  29. 0
    14 February 2024 01: 39
    We are not allowed to hit their ports, but they can hit ours. Is this also an element of the agreements?
  30. 0
    14 February 2024 10: 48
    This is understandable. The deal is not announced, which means it doesn’t exist. Otherwise the sound of something good will start buzzing
  31. 0
    14 February 2024 15: 17
    [quote“Russia is losing the battle for the Black Sea”][/quote]
    Of course he loses.
    “It will be possible to declare this zone closed, to stop and inspect by the forces of the Russian Black Sea Fleet any ship that appears there, and, if necessary, to destroy it,”

    Yeah, well yes. Now, right away. Yesterday the Khinzirs sank another of our warships. And you say.....
  32. 0
    14 February 2024 19: 52
    And who benefits from this process? If we wanted to block this channel, we would block it. Until we have completely removed the comprador bourgeoisie from the saints of the 90s, the bridges across the Dnieper will remain the same.
  33. 0
    14 February 2024 23: 02
    Swear - don’t swear, denounce - don’t denounce, but sometimes you remember with regret the “pre-perestroika” (albeit far from ideal in many respects) USSR. In which there would be neither this grain deal, nor the SVO, nor the Kiev Maidan, which led to the triumph of Bandera in Ukraine, nor much else, the fruits of which we are still reaping and, it seems, will be reaping for more than one generation in the future.
  34. 0
    14 February 2024 23: 21
    It took me a long time to read all your comments. But I still couldn’t understand: will anyone go to the polls? Will anyone vote the way they are calling to do it, probably from every iron?
  35. 0
    16 February 2024 12: 59
    in order to close the grain deal, it is enough to seize all the merchant ships with boats and take them to Kerch, for example, and that’s it. or drown. and everything else is some kind of nonsense
  36. 0
    16 February 2024 18: 27
    the grain corridor is still operational

    Why shouldn't it function...
    Where is the Black Sea Fleet known...
    But the thirst for profit gives no rest...
  37. 0
    16 February 2024 20: 41
    Good article. Correct and necessary. But I'm afraid it's useless.
  38. kig
    0
    18 February 2024 03: 34
    After signing the memorandum, or whatever it was called, in general a document called Initiative on the Safe Transportation of Grain and Foodstuffs from Ukrainian ports, which took place on July 22, 2022, was followed by the conclusion of another agreement, which for some reason is not mentioned. Namely Memorandum of Understanding between the Russian Federation and the United Nations Secretariat on facilitating the promotion of Russian food products , signed on September 12 of the same year. It stated that:

    - The Russian Federation will continue to supply food to countries in need of these products;
    - The Secretariat agrees to continue efforts to promote transparent and
    unhindered supplies of food and fertilizers, including raw materials for
    fertilizer production (including ammonia), coming from the Russian Federation to
    world markets. This includes, in particular, efforts to help remove obstacles that may arise in the finance, insurance and logistics sectors.


    Most likely, our side never hoped to cut off oxygen to grain supplies, and this whole “deal” was started precisely because of one small detail - ammonia. Which came via pipeline from Togliatti... where? And to Odessa-mama. We started the SVO, hoping that everything would end quickly, but how it went. Well, then, as you know, “we were deceived,” and the whole idea with the corridor lost all meaning. But no one seriously intended to block the sea routes.