Russian 300 billion: why they are still not in Ukraine

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Russian 300 billion: why they are still not in Ukraine


Waiting for defrosting


Is 300 billion Russian dollars a lot or a little for Ukraine?



Everything is relative. Since February 24, 2022, the volume of Western aid to the Kyiv regime has just exceeded 300 billion. The money was used not only to directly pay for military expenses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also for completely civilian needs - payments to public sector employees and other infrastructure projects.

Another example for comparison - 300 billion dollars is approximately two annual GDP of Ukraine. If the West nevertheless agrees on the transfer of funds stolen from Russia, then the Zelensky regime will be able to resist for another couple of years. At the same time, not a single import taxpayer will be annoyed - the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive money not from budgetary funds.

The prospect is quite logical and does not contradict the large-scale anti-Russian campaign taking place in the West. But for certain reasons, Russian assets are still not in Ukraine. Moreover, until recently, few people remembered them at all.


Joe Biden's administration advocates transferring $300 billion from Russian accounts to Ukrainian ones

At the end of December last year, the fuss around Russia's frozen assets revived again.

The initiator was the Biden administration, which had lost hope of a quick resolution of the conflict with the Republicans. We are talking about the allocation of more than 60 billion dollars for the armament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is opposed by opponents from the competing party.

For Washington, Ukraine has become a suitcase without a handle – it’s both inconvenient to carry and a shame to leave behind. But in stock are stolen 300 billion dollars from Russia (according to other sources, more than 350 billion). The US Presidential Administration is ready to submit a corresponding bill for consideration.

Bloomberg, who, as always, knows better than anyone, claims that “the bill would provide the powers necessary for the US executive branch to confiscate Russian sovereign assets for the benefit of Ukraine.” This is one of the first truly serious attempts by Washington to transfer seized Russian money to the Kyiv regime.

David Cameron, the current British Foreign Secretary, echoes his overseas masters and is ready to turn Russia's frozen assets into “advance reparations payments.” By the way, the British are withholding 26 billion pounds sterling from Russia.

The apparent simplicity of the process is actually deceptive - anyone who dreams of getting their hands on Russian billions should weigh the pros and cons.

Let's try to choose the most sensible and adequate ones among the voices of protest in the West.

Western policy to date has been built on attempts to force Russia to do something. Start unfavorable peace negotiations, withdraw troops or cease fire, that is, bring down the authority of the state on the world stage as much as possible. Humiliate and trample as much as possible. Sanctions work in the same logic - with painful injections they cause impoverishment and demoralization of the population, and with it dissatisfaction with the authorities.

So far, everything is not going according to plan. The theft of 300 billion dollars and the subsequent transfer of money to Zelensky is not an attempt to force Russia into something, it is direct incitement to war. 300 billion in the hands of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not make the Russian Army weaker, they will prolong the conflict and add bitterness to it. And thus they will make the future of millions of people inhabiting the territory of Ukraine even more uncertain. A similar understanding of the situation is present in the West, and the most desperate hotheads in Washington cannot help but listen to it.

If we take into account the opinion of countries that do not belong to the “enlightened billion,” then things are even more difficult for Joe Biden. Most countries, if they do not directly support Russia, then want the conflict to end as quickly as possible. Naturally, on the Kremlin’s terms, since it simply cannot end on other terms.

And in this regard, 300 billion looks like a real can of gasoline that the White House is pouring into the fire of confrontation. This is far from helping the “poor and unfortunate” Banderaites, but a direct attempt to prolong the bloodshed. Since the budgets of NATO countries will not be affected in this case, all indirect losses will fall on the countries of Africa, South America and Asia. Let it be a little, but for a long time. The West, on the contrary, will make a profit - the lion's share of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' money will be spent on the purchase of weapons and ammunition.

Time to make money


The main holder of the frozen Russian assets is Euroclear, a Belgian securities depository. It is with him that Washington will have to negotiate when it comes to transferring billions into the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It will not be difficult to force the office to take unpopular measures, but there are nuances.

First of all, Euroclear makes good money from stolen money. In words, billions are “frozen”; in fact, they are quite actively working. Last year, in the first three quarters, Euroclear received investment income of 3 billion euros from Russian assets. This is 3,5 times more than we managed to earn in 2022.

And now the most important thing is that in the first nine months, Euroclear received a total income of 5,06 billion euros from all assets. That is, Russian money provided more than half of all the office’s income. Who will part with such a cash cow in an amicable way?

There are also risks for Euroclear's future customer base. After the unprecedented robbery, many countries will inevitably move to alternative depositories. For example, Chinese financial institutions are waiting for them with open arms. Western analysts call the possible risks “financial fragmentation.” If the Europeans and Americans are ready to produce worthy competitors for themselves, then the transfer of 300 billion to the Armed Forces of Ukraine looks quite justified. This is well understood in Washington and they will try to spread the responsibility for the theft of money onto their partners.

First they will try to adopt something collective within the G20, and then the GXNUMX. In the long term, everything is even sadder - alternative financial mechanisms will actually devalue anti-Russian sanctions. Which, by the way, don’t work very well anyway.

Of course, things will not come to the collapse of the dollar, but there will be more centers of financial power in the world. And this will allow countries to choose through which payment channels to transfer money. We are talking about the notorious SWIFT, the birth of a full-fledged analogue of which is just around the corner.


The fate of the Kyiv regime is much less important to Joe Biden than the financial reputation of the collective West.

There are also more subtle explanations of the reasons why Europe and the United States should not touch the Russian 300 billion. Strictly speaking, supplies weapons The Armed Forces of Ukraine and financial assistance from one’s own pocket are, of course, a dirty business, but they do not contradict the unwritten world rules. But the arrest and especially the transfer of this money to Zelensky look like a manifestation of double standards. Never before have Western countries resorted to such radical measures, and only when the conflict broke out right next to their doors did the “golden billion” decide to take extreme measures.

If there are no rules, then who will prohibit, for example, India and China in the future from confiscating a couple of other hundred billion from Europe or the USA in the same way? All you have to do is come up with a good political slogan, and you're done.

300 billion dollars from Russia in unfriendly countries is considered an important argument in future negotiations with the Kremlin. Until now, it seems to some that the financial issue is capable of forcing the Russian Army to retreat or at least stop. The idea is untenable for many reasons.

Firstly, the special operation did not start because of billions of dollars in wealth, but solely for political and military reasons.

Secondly, few people in Russia seriously believe in returning stolen funds to their homeland. The task now is to force the West by all means to leave these billions in a “frozen” state. Apparently, this is working out so far.

After carefully weighing all the arguments, the West still considers $300 billion higher than the aspirations of the Kyiv regime. And this is the worst news for Zelensky and his entourage.
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  1. +9
    18 January 2024 04: 39
    Russian 300 billion: why they are still not in Ukraine
    Why the hell are these 300 billion in the West? whose idea and execution?
    1. +3
      18 January 2024 08: 10
      This money is invested in the Western economy. Therefore, they will not be given back to either the former Ukrainian SSR or Russia.
    2. 0
      18 January 2024 10: 06
      Because it's not our money. I already wrote. When Pupkin borrows in the West to open a bakery, he borrows in dollars. But in Russia he needs rubles! Therefore, he goes and sells dollars to the Central Bank for rubles. The Central Bank receives a million bucks, Pupkin 90 million rubles. But does the Central Bank own this million? Of course not - because in a year Pupkin needs to repay the debt, and he will come again to exchange rubles for dollars. So, what should the Central Bank do with these dollars for a year? The most reasonable thing is to place it where they took it, on Western accounts. Why send money here and there, and the percentage will drop...

      So, I think that many of these assets are the very covering of Russian debts. To appropriate them simply means to collect these debts ahead of schedule. No more..
      1. 0
        18 January 2024 12: 49
        Quote: paul3390
        So, what should the Central Bank do with these dollars for a year? The most reasonable thing is to place it where they took it, on Western accounts. Why send money here and there, and the percentage will drop...

        On what accounts, what are you talking about? All US money (except cash) is in the US. You only have a correspondent account. All they have to do is press a button and you don’t have it.
        Money in the West was placed purposefully, but here, as always,
    3. 0
      18 January 2024 11: 26
      This was a condition for the issuance of loans and investments by the West...
    4. -1
      18 January 2024 12: 49
      Quote: Aerodrome
      Russian 300 billion: why they are still not in Ukraine
      Why the hell are these 300 billion in the West? whose idea and execution?

      Find everyone involved, piss on them, nationalize property up to the 17th generation, and shoot everyone with KPVT.
      In reality, it’s treason, bullshit and some kind of insanity.
      It’s like there’s no money, they’re babbling about “investments”, but 300 lard have been spent in the USA.
      (Who needs a deposit for peace of mind (and who has children in the West)?)
    5. 0
      18 January 2024 18: 58
      The beginning was made a long time ago by Kudrin, who explained this by saying that Russia receives a percentage of this money, and this is profitable.
      1. 0
        18 January 2024 21: 13
        Quote: Sergei Fonov
        and it's profitable

        It is profitable to buy a turnkey plant.
        Some kind of semiconductors. Or maybe we can set up gear cutting machines.
        It’s better to build plants and factories yourself.
        Hydroelectric power stations/nuclear power plants are also a good investment.
        Infrastructure.

        The interest isn't that good. As well as the sale of raw materials.
        Economists are simply degenerates.
        The real economy is industry, heavy. And the production of means of production.
        This is why everything else grows.
    6. 0
      20 January 2024 20: 57
      Quote: Aerodrome
      Why the hell are these 300 billion in the West? whose idea and execution?

      Over three decades, even according to official data from the Central Bank, more than one trillion dollars have gone to the West. So it’s logical to pose the question differently: "Why do you need money, dear Russians? You will plunder them all and put them in....or they will go to build palaces with golden toilets and yachts with missile defense for the oligarchs...and in the West they will at least work in some real business... . "
  2. +3
    18 January 2024 05: 29
    Washington's attempts to transfer the seized money from Russia to the Kyiv regime.
    No one will hand over anything to anyone. There is agitation and intimidation, but they won’t unfreeze them. The USA, a long time ago, seized Iranian assets, some other countries, not many of them, and they are cutting coupons.. They are not going to lift the arrest.. Transferring money to Ukraine, that’s delicious spit in the face of our bourgeoisie, who have money, real estate, and besides, they invest money in production. The United States will not undermine its credibility.
  3. +4
    18 January 2024 05: 35
    To be honest, it’s a very strange story, the financial sector in general is a murky topic, but ours is like that in general. For us, there would be a more noticeable blow to offshore companies, but here sometimes it seems that these 300 billion are not there, because any smart person starting a confrontation would at least take his own first , and then I would start. But here it’s as if it wasn’t like in the Soviet comedy: Everything has already been stolen before us (c).
    1. +3
      18 January 2024 06: 17
      In your comment there is the word smart, which is not very suitable for rulers, the desire to join the club of Western nouveau riche blinds the eyes and deprives one of reason
  4. +2
    18 January 2024 07: 02
    The final question for many is why, before the start of the SVO, they did not withdraw this money from the banks of unfriendly countries, relying on the mythical compliance with the agreements. Now, of course, it’s too late to talk about this. For these frozen, or rather stolen (indeed, the likelihood of their return is approaching zero), Russia must answer for 700 billion Western assets. To live with wolves is to howl like a wolf. And no other way.
    1. +2
      18 January 2024 12: 51
      Quote: rotmistr60
      before the start of the SVO

      They wouldn't have bothered us even before the Northern Military District.
      Construction of production facilities, infrastructure, roads.
  5. +4
    18 January 2024 07: 05
    The first question that should be asked about this (as already noted in the comments) is how did they end up in the West, and how did it happen that they ended up frozen there? Who is responsible and what is its measure? But the author, of course, does not ask such questions...
    As for the fate of these billions, let the author not worry, this money will not get to Ukraine under any circumstances, it will certainly be transferred to it, but transferred virtually, in reality it will be used to pay for Western aid, that is, as it was in the West, so it is there and will remain.
    But the fact is that for Russia they are lost. As for the precedent, here too the author is worrying in vain, a legal framework has already been prepared for this issue, this money and the income from it will be transferred as punishment for the aggressor, etc.
    And here we must also say thank you to the amazing people who managed to attack the whole of Ukraine while recognizing its government and territorial integrity. And then stop on the third day of the operation and begin negotiations. There is certainly no analogue to this.
  6. +2
    18 January 2024 07: 57
    Isn’t the fact that Russian billions ended up in the West a betrayal of Russia’s interests?
  7. +1
    18 January 2024 08: 05
    Quote: rotmistr60
    For these frozen, or rather stolen (indeed, the likelihood of their return is approaching zero), Russia must answer for 700 billion Western assets. To live with wolves is to howl like a wolf. And no other way.


    but here everything is not simple: this is the money of specific “people” - who collaborated with Russia and for whom the sanctions and restrictions carried out by politicians are not at all “in the gut” - i.e. This is our partners' money!
    therefore, if we say that we will nationalize them, then we will act like children from the sandbox (look at how partners leave - they give up their business for 1 ruble!) - this is what they are pushing us to do
    and the numbers you announced are for the purpose of fulfilling the “show-off” of our officials - what patriots they are...
  8. +6
    18 January 2024 08: 27
    The collective West is fighting us with the hands of Ukrainians and for our own money. How did this happen? Did the brilliant geopolitician give in?

    . After the unprecedented plunder, many countries will inevitably leave to alternative depositories. For example, Chinese financial institutions are waiting for them with open arms.

    They won't leave. Especially to the Chinese. We didn’t leave (until the age of 22). Although even before us, the West seized money from other countries!
  9. +2
    18 January 2024 09: 33
    It seems to me that not everyone understands the essence of the state’s gold and foreign exchange reserves, excuse me. Their main task is to be highly liquid and quickly implementable when necessary.
    I'll try to explain. We sell resources. We have always sold them and will continue to sell them; this is the essence and quintessence of the domestic economy. We can talk about its quality for a long time and tediously, but it is exactly the same as it has been for about 60 years. Over the last 30 years, under the Democrats, of course, the raw materials model has become considerably stronger.
    So, we sold all this (and still sell it now) for dollars. A small share of settlements in national currencies is insignificant and negligible.
    The US dollar is the most popular and liquid currency for which you can buy anything, anywhere. Unlike the vast majority of national currencies.
    As an example, we sell gas to the Turks and buy tomatoes from them. For national currencies. Let's say we sold them gas for 1000 liras, and bought tomatoes for 300. Where to put another 700 liras? After all, in fact, no one else needs them except Turkey. This is exactly what happened with India and rupees. We have a huge surplus of them and no one knows what to do with them. Therefore, all international payments are carried out in dollars, because everyone agreed that this is a universal means of payment. And for dollars (as opposed to the lira) you can buy the same tomatoes in Brazil, Congo and Korea.
    So, we had a significant budget surplus for a long time, because... We sold much more resources than we bought all sorts of different things abroad. This means that something had to be done with the positive balance of available funds.
    A very simple example to understand: you are a trading company. You buy some piece of garbage for 100 rubles and then sell it for 200. After each operation you have 100 rubles left. What to do with them? You can increase your turnover and buy 2 pieces of garbage for 200 and sell them for 400. And so on until the market is completely saturated. At some point, they simply stop buying additional crap from you, because... the market is filled with them. You can leave them in your current account, then they just lie there without meaning. Or you can put them on deposit in a reliable bank and then they generate at least some income and, in principle, are available at any time if you need to use them. This is exactly what our leaders did. (I’m not ready to discuss why these surpluses were not invested in organizing and expanding production, etc. In my opinion, this is extremely poor planning + corruption component).
    Keeping money in rubles within the Russian Federation does not make the slightest sense, because the Central Bank already has the right to issue and can issue absolutely any amount of these rubles. Well, according to a number of economic criteria for assessing the state. So what remains? Of course, a reliable and liquid currency and/or its analogues (bonds of reliable countries). Because if you buy Mongolian tugriks, then the probability of flying with them and ending up with your nose is very high.
    We started getting out of American debt a long time ago, and at the time of February 2022, we were holding some absolutely ridiculous amount of several hundred million there. But ours again miscalculated with Europe. As I see it, our leaders did not expect that Europe would bend so much to the interests of the United States and would not begin to kill its own economy. Well, the calculation was for a blitzkrieg and that no one would have time to come to their senses, but we had already put Medvedchuk in the Ukrainian kingdom and got out of there safely. There seems to be nothing to punish for. But everything turned out the way it turned out.
    So, there are no mythical 300 billion dollars that lie somewhere in an account and are waiting for our Central Bank to take them away. 90% of this money is bonds of European countries, which they have now stopped servicing. Or rather, the countries themselves even pay coupons on them, but the depositories do not make these payments. So we did lend money to the countries whose bonds we bought, but they weren't the United States. And freezing assets is very profitable, of course, but confiscating them is fraught. Because trust will be undermined precisely in those countries whose debt we bought. And the decision on confiscation here must be made by each country sovereignly.
  10. +2
    18 January 2024 10: 50
    Quote: Mishka78
    Keeping money in rubles inside the Russian Federation does not make the slightest sense,


    keep? and for whom? or for what? "money for the sake of money"?
    you noted that the money is “in your pocket” - they don’t give new money - and that’s right
    but look at how many utility accidents there are in the country (and there are more and more of them every year) - why not invest this money in the same “utility”?
    after all, the structures that manage communal services raise the cost of the service every year, but do not improve their material assets - they simply “kill” income from payments by subscribers...
    How? - look at the salary, bonuses, when a “group of persons” receives up to 80% of the total wages, and the annual wages are up to 75-80% of the subscribers’ receipts.
    therefore, remembering the deeds of the “gloomy genius” who began to build highways and thereby “raise” his country (namely the country, and not specific “bodies” close to him)
    as an acquaintance said at the dawn of perestroika, “if you don’t want to think and work, put the money in the bank”
    1. +2
      18 January 2024 17: 16
      Yes, I agree with you, this is exactly what I wrote about in my message.
      (I’m not ready to discuss why these surpluses were not invested in organizing and expanding production, etc. In my opinion, this is extremely poor planning + corruption component).

      I tried to explain the essence and form of these same reserves. And not why they exist at all and why they are not used by the state.
  11. +3
    18 January 2024 11: 48
    And this is the worst news for Zelensky and his circle.
    But ordinary Russians should rejoice at this news... Maybe we can also organize folk festivities on this occasion? smile
  12. +3
    18 January 2024 17: 00
    Author: Most countries, if they do not directly support Russia, then want the conflict to end as quickly as possible. Naturally, on the Kremlin’s terms, since it simply cannot end on other terms.
    This is a very bold assumption for an analytical (?) article.
    Author: In the long term, everything is even sadder - alternative financial mechanisms will actually devalue anti-Russian sanctions. Which, by the way, don’t work very well anyway.
    We still have to live to see “depreciation”, but for now the sanctions are working and here is new confirmation:
    A TASS source in the Turkish banking industry said on January 16 that Turkish banks are “in standby mode” due to the decree of the head of the White House, since the document uses vague language that requires additional clarification.
    The day before it became known that due to Biden’s decree, Chinese state-owned banks also began to limit their work with clients from Russia. According to Bloomberg, at least two Chinese banks have decided to reconsider their Russian business, sever ties with clients subject to sanctions and stop providing any financial services to the Russian military industry.

    Author: If there are no rules, then who will prohibit, for example, India and China in the future from confiscating in the same way a couple of hundred billion from Europe or the USA? All you have to do is come up with a good political slogan, and you're done.
    For the author, everything is simple, but in reality - why would India and China suddenly decide to collapse their trade with the USA and the EU?!
  13. +1
    18 January 2024 19: 07
    The blood of war is oil, metals, mechanical engineering, and money can become paper at any moment, for example, inflation, reform, and the United States will sell you a loaf of bread for several thousand dollars. Without money, you can build a lot within the country if you have raw materials, factories and people , but with us everything is like economists, there is a lot of grain, but there is nothing to feed the chickens, which is why eggs are expensive.
  14. +3
    18 January 2024 20: 17
    Quote: Civil
    This money is invested in the Western economy. Therefore, they will not be given back to either the former Ukrainian SSR or Russia.

    That's right!
    Before the return of Crimea to its native harbor, the Russian government carefully complied with all the rules of the IMF, WTO, and other subversive organizations.
    Some people sincerely rejoiced at the creation of the ICC (which later arrested him in absentia).

    Even pension genocide (increasing the retirement age) was carried out by order from C. Lagarde (then managing director of the IMF).

    о о ерхушка айсберга.
    The National Welfare Fund, created to stop the Pension Fund deficit, was essentially transformed into a fund to help our oligarchs.
    Everything is so bad that Putin, in 2022, even approved another extension of the “freeze” of the funded part of the pension until 2025!

    And the fosterling, Anton Siluanov, having forgotten about this, howls about the next robbery - asks people to save into long-term pension accounts themselves!

    It’s strange, but many financial agreements with the West continue to be strictly implemented, both on our part and on the part of the West.

    Spiteful critics talk about the world behind the scenes, lizards and dolls playing the role of presidents in the world.
    Maybe there is a grain of common sense in this nonsense?

    This is how Putin signed a decree raising the retirement age?
    Didn’t he read why the National Welfare Fund was created:

    "The National Welfare Fund is a part of the federal budget funds that are subject to separate accounting and management in order to ensure co-financing of voluntary pension savings of citizens of the Russian Federation, as well as ensuring balance (cover the deficit) the federal budget and the budget of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation"
  15. -1
    18 January 2024 21: 26
    Yes, no one will give this money to anyone. This bullshit with the Northern Military District will someday end. And something tells me that it is not in favor of the West. Then this topic will come up during the negotiations. After all, it will drag you through the courts, not to mention the image losses. But Russia has already squeezed out these 300 lards. Even these scanty pieces of the occupied regions are worth at least ten trillion. So let them choke. Print rubles with these 300 lards and throw them into the economy, and for the IMF this is like a sickle for Faberge
  16. -1
    19 January 2024 10: 15
    Under certain conditions, they will be left to us so that we can spend them on the restoration of Ukraine.
  17. 0
    22 January 2024 13: 23
    In Russia there are large and successful companies in which Western shareholders participate, such as Sberbank, Gazprom, etc. They not only own property, but also receive dividends. For example, Sber earned one and a half trillion in 2023, which means dividends of about 600 billion will be received. Residents and shareholders from friendly countries will receive them, but Western ones will not. Type C accounts. Thus, everything is simple, if the West confiscates Russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves, we will simply take away their stakes in our companies and all the money from Type C accounts. And this is the main reason why they have not stolen it yet. Loss of reputation is a secondary reason...
  18. 0
    24 January 2024 09: 16
    The scheme is a little different. These billions actually don’t exist physically, they are not goods. Whoever you don’t give them to, you’ll have to immediately give something tangible (goods, weapons) in return for them. But if you give it to anyone, you don’t need to give anything.
  19. 0
    26 January 2024 13: 11
    So, I think that many of these assets are the very covering of Russian debts. To appropriate them simply means to collect these debts ahead of schedule. No more..

    If so, that's good. But there is another scenario. Russia delivers gas and oil. metals and fertilizer, part of the money comes from Western banks, and the other part is used to buy shares, yachts, dachas, planes and football teams, also in the West. All this can be taken away without any costs.