Belgorod, Kyiv, Kharkov – who will face trial?

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Belgorod, Kyiv, Kharkov – who will face trial?

Preface. At the beginning of my first article this year, I want to congratulate all VO readers on the upcoming New Year, wish you health and the fulfillment of all your desires. And I want to say right away that this article is more for our readers there, far beyond the borders of our country. I know that there are a lot of them who read “VO” in other languages ​​and their opinions are quite ambiguous. It all depends on what picture the media shows. Therefore, everything below is simply an attempt to show what is happening from the point of view of some facts, voiced, by the way, by the Ukrainian side.

Houses are burning and collapsing. People are dying, I especially feel sorry for the children on both sides of the front line, because in reality the children are not to blame for what is happening. But this happens, more and more often.



It seems that, as they believe in the West, these are quite normal phenomena. So to speak, the results of military operations, since one side attacks, the second has every right to defend itself. This seems to be absolutely indisputable, the only question is – how?

In general, justice in war is very much so-so. History the winners write, with all the resulting consequences, but so far neither side has won - here, of course, the information battlefield is not inferior to the real one in terms of the intensity of the battles.

But, nevertheless, I really want to pay attention to justice. Truth, especially fair truth, is a very difficult matter, especially when information armies do not spare either themselves or the enemy in this war.

And it is completely clear that both fighting sides will blame the enemy for the wrongdoing as much as possible. This is a very classic technique that allows you to denigrate the enemy in the eyes of the world community, enlist the sympathy and help of allies, and so on. And - importantly - to bring individual representatives of the enemy side into the dock in an international tribunal at the end of everything.

So, the Ukrainian side accuses the Russian side of the fact that our missiles are hitting residential buildings and infrastructure, and the same thing is happening on our side.

But there are nuances that you can’t hide from.


What did Russian missiles forget in Kyiv? I pose the question very clearly, because everything further depends on the answer. Are there any targets, in the sense of military facilities, in Kyiv, besides thermal power plants and other things?

1. Kiev Armored Plant, on Borispolskaya Street.


2. Kyiv plant "Arsenal"


3. State enterprise "Antonov"


4. “Phazotron-Ukraine”, “Luch”, “Mayak”, “Remdizel”, Autorepair Plant of the Ministry of Defense, “Electronpribor”, “Kvant”, “Radar”, “Radioizmeritel”, “Kvant-Radiolocator”, “Burevestnik”, “ Generator", Central Repair Plant for Communication Equipment, "Microtek" - all these enterprises belong to the military-industrial complex of Ukraine.

And I will emphasize very boldly: 90% of this list of enterprises are not just located within Kyiv - they are located in the central part, outlined by the circle of Naberezhnoe Highway - Lobanovsky - Teliga - Bandera.

That is, there are worthy goals in Kyiv, moreover, these goals are enough for the unflagging attention of the Russian military. They repair armored vehicles, vehicles, radars, communications equipment and produce new ones.

And it is quite obvious that attacks on military targets have continued and will continue.

Accordingly, the air defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will try to repel these attacks. This is also quite normal.

What is not normal is how the defenders of the Ukrainian sky do it. I, like thousands of other people with some experience, still do not understand why Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners prefer to be positioned almost right next to (by their standards) protected objects.

Yes, it has been discussed so many times that if Russian missiles were not shot down over residential buildings, then the damage would be much less.

As proof of this thesis, let’s take and analyze this report from the Ukrainian agency UNIAN. The agency as a whole is completely Svidomo, especially in terms of calculating the successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but something really happens there where quite objective information slips through.


This is the published data on one of the latest missile attacks on Kyiv from the KGVA, the Kyiv City Military Administration. I note that the KGVA, represented by the head Sergei Popko, gave a very honest picture of what happened, which allows us to comment on the results and give them a two-sided fair assessment.

As a result of a missile attack:
- in the Solomensky district, a fire was recorded in two multi-storey residential buildings. 10 victims have already been identified.


This is one of the houses that caught fire. From the picture you can see that a downed air defense missile clearly crashed around the house. The fire in the house is not accompanied by destruction from the detonated warhead; it is obvious that burning debris or part of the burning unspent fuel hit the balcony.

- in the Desnyansky district there is a preliminary fire in a supermarket.
Not a word about a missile hit, the supermarket could have caught fire for another reason, but if the culprit was debris, the picture would be like that of a high-rise building.

- non-residential premises were damaged in the Darnitsky district.
- in the Goloseevsky district, debris fell in an open area.
- in the Pechersky district - on the roof of a 9-story residential building; for another multi-storey building and a private house.
- in the Obolonsky district there is a fire in a residential building, falling debris onto the territory of non-residential buildings and warehouses.
- in the Podolsk region there was a fire on the territory of the market. A gas pipe was damaged and debris fell onto a non-residential building. A fire in a residential building is also possible.
- Shevchenko district - falling debris onto an open area.

As you can see, the picture is the same, as if written according to the same script. The fragments of sold missiles and UAVs, often burning, fall on various infrastructure facilities and slightly damage them, sometimes causing fires.

Where should we start to be surprised? Where air defense works successfully, shooting down enemy missiles over residential areas? Yes, it would be worth it. With the help of NATO surveillance equipment, the Ukrainian Armed Forces know very well when our planes take off from the ground and go to the launch areas. Why, excuse me, is it necessary to wait until the last minute and shoot down missiles over residential buildings - the answer is simple, and more about it at the end.

By the way, here is another illustration.

Here is a sensational video on the Internet showing how a rocket hits and explodes in a residential building in Kyiv.


Very impressive. However, Anatoly Shariy’s channel published another video, shot by a different person and from a different angle. And it was simply clearly visible that a rocket that had already been shot down and was on fire had arrived at the house. And an explosion in a house is not an explosion of a warhead, but of an engine and remaining fuel. This is simply clearly visible, since the explosion occurred not inside, but outside the house.



The two shooting points make a very significant difference in understanding what happened.

In fact, of course, it is not for us to give advice to Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners, but if they shot down our missiles, which, according to them, is done very effectively, on approach to Kiev, there would be many times fewer casualties among the civilian population.

But alas, for some reason it is more convenient for the Ukrainian military to do their work directly above Kiev


There is an opinion, and it is not only mine, that two problems are being solved here at the same time: there is a fight against Russian missiles, and a political demonstration of the “atrocities” of the Russian army.

However, if ours are not “disturbed” in this way, then they hit extremely accurately. Was the production of clothing and tactical equipment "M-Tas" destroyed (as an example)? They smashed it.


The X-101 arrived in all its beauty and the factory was gone. And if the air defense “could”, it is possible that all this would fly into a residential building.

So it turns out that it is much more profitable for the Ukrainian side to shoot down missiles over residential buildings in order to receive a double benefit: preserving its production and facilities on the one hand, and earning political bonuses on the other.

Everything is clear here. What about Belgorod?



Yes, everything was fine in Belgorod. Not a single military plant, no military units (they all somehow happened at a distance), nothing like that. Mining and manufacturing industries, food…

The whole problem with Belgorod is that the border with Ukraine is on average 30-35 km. And a city with a population of 300 thousand people is just a gorgeous target. Another question is for whom. But it is very convenient to shoot at the city with Alder MLRS missiles (the Czech Vampires cannot reach) for those who just need to shoot at residential buildings.

We all saw footage of missiles arriving in Belgorod. We saw the consequences. We saw the air defense work. There is only one question: where did the Alder shells fly? Where are the military targets and military enterprises? There weren't any.


It is clear that it is very convenient to drive the Alder to a safe distance to the border at night, quickly shoot the package and just as calmly go back. A package of 12 missiles is fired in 48 seconds. The flight range of 70 km allows you not to approach the border point-blank, but to work from your own territory, which has enough forested areas in which it is very convenient to hide the car before the final throw.

The Alder's guidance is modern. Inertial with the ability to adjust in flight using GPS and GLONASS signals. When using only an inertial guidance system, the average deviation of the rocket is 50 m, when using GPS correction - about 7 m. The inertial correction is based on a laser gyroscope produced by the Kyiv Arsenal Design Bureau.

That is, when they want to get into the Ukrainian Armed Forces where they need to go, they, as is typical, get there. List of successful missile strikes on the same ships and structures of the Black Sea fleet - the best confirmation of this. But these are really military purposes. Real warships and real military.

What's real in Belgorod?


Nothing. These are simply retaliatory strikes in the best traditions of German fascism during the Great Patriotic War.


As always, I will give you a historical excursion.

On June 13, 1942, my Voronezh was raided by German aviation. In general, the city had been bombed before; after all, the war had been going on for almost a year, but this bombing turned out to be the bloodiest, because several bombs hit the Pioneer Garden in the center of the city. A completely useless attack that claimed the lives of 71 people, 45 of them children. In total, 247 people were injured in the city. This is according to an information certificate dated June 14, 1942, presented to the regional party committee of the Voronezh region, found in the archive by Evgeny Shkrykin.


On the memorial sign, next to which a monument was recently erected, the figure is somewhat inflated, but this does not at all detract from the scale of the tragedy. And today, to this sign, people of the city bring toys and flowers, leaflets with the words “Belgorod, we are with you.”

But we really are with them. We are not animals. We are able to ache in our souls and cry for the dead children of Belgorod, Kyiv and Kharkov, just as we rooted for the children of Lugansk and Donetsk. Those who were deprived of their childhood, many were deprived of their parents. Together we helped children from a boarding school in Alchevsk in 2014. We have proven our humanity through deeds.

And we can also regret that children are dying in Ukrainian cities. This will not please normal people, but what is our fault if Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners prefer to shoot down our missiles over urban areas? Here, indeed, not every court will decide who is more to blame: the Russian military man who aimed the missile at a military plant in the center of Kyiv, or the Ukrainian one who shot down this missile over residential buildings.

Perhaps such a trial will take place someday. And it will be really interesting to hear the arguments of the parties.

But the option with Belgorod is somewhat different. This is like a war crime - attacks on a city in which there are no troops, no military enterprises, no warehouses. Where strikes by very accurate Ukrainian missiles (I wasn’t the one who boasted that they often hit with zero CEP) occur on residential buildings. Not fragments of downed missiles, but missiles.

And who should end up in the dock after everything is the operators of those MLRS that fired at Belgorod. And not in The Hague, no. In Moscow.

But the Ukrainian military constantly complains about the lack of long-range missiles. And so, when they suddenly appear through the titanic efforts of Ukrainian workers, for some reason they are spent on war crimes against the civilian population.

No, not The Hague. We will have to organize our own. And take on the fighters of the 107th Rocket Artillery Brigade, who were armed with Elbrus, Tochki and Smerch, and now Alder. And ask questions to everyone, from the brigade commander, Colonel Kelembet Alexander Mikhailovich, to the last cook.

By the way, the motto of the brigade (oh, how they love beautiful and loud mottos in Ukraine!) sounds like “Duty and Honor!” It’s as if the duty of the artillerymen is precisely to destroy the manpower and equipment of the enemy army. Well, how much honor can be gained by shooting at residential buildings, I can confidently say.

It's pulling on a rope. Execution is a matter of respect for an honest enemy. In our case, a rope.

Well, the last quote, which says a little and a lot at the same time.

“We also have the ability to hit areas. In Kyiv, for example. In places where people walk. But we are hitting military targets, and very sensitively. And we will continue to do so."
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin


Everyone makes their own choice. If Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners so want to kill their own people with such interception tactics, excuse me, but God will not be their judge.
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  1. +28
    8 January 2024 05: 06
    “We also have the ability to hit areas. In Kyiv, for example. Everyone makes their own choice.

    It could have been done simpler - just not collapse the USSR. Then there would be no need to do all these ordeals.
    1. -18
      8 January 2024 06: 52
      Quote: peshik
      It could have been done simpler - just not collapse the USSR. Then there would be no need to do all these ordeals.

      The Union must fall apart, in any case. If back in the RSFSR, the people were for the Union, then in the same Ukraine, more than 80% were against it, and I think you know how the Russians were already treated in those days. I felt this before the collapse, while on business trips to Ukrainian enterprises. Well, I won’t say anything about the Central Asian and Baltic republics.
      The collapse had been in preparation not for a year or two, but for decades.
      1. +45
        8 January 2024 07: 38
        Quote: carpenter
        If back in the RSFSR, the people were for the Union, then in the same Ukraine, more than 80% were against

        Results of the 1991 referendum on the preservation of the USSR. Ukrainian SSR -70% for. Central Asian republics - from 93 to 98% in favor. For comparison, Moscow is 50%, the entire RSFSR is 71%. Your cap.
        1. +1
          8 January 2024 09: 20
          Quote: Belisarius
          Results of the 1991 referendum on the preservation of the USSR. Ukrainian SSR -70% for. Central Asian republics - from 93 to 98% in favor. For comparison, Moscow is 50%, the entire RSFSR is 71%. Your cap.

          But you forgot that the all-Ukrainian referendum on December 1, 1991 said:
          “Do you confirm the Act of Declaration of Independence of Ukraine.” Turnout on December 1 was 84%, with almost 29 million (92%) supporting the act and only Crimea - the only region with a predominant Russian population - where 54% voted for independence. The next day, without waiting for official results, other states began to recognize Ukraine. On December 8, Leonid Kravchuk, Boris Yeltsin and Stanislav Shushkevich abolished the USSR.
          1. +17
            8 January 2024 10: 40
            Referendums in the USSR were held in accordance with the USSR law of 1990 “On the procedure for the secession of Union republics from the USSR”, therefore the second referendum in the Ukrainian SSR did not comply with the law, and the Union republics had to secede with the territory with which they were part of the USSR , but our first president said, “Take as much as you can.” So they took it, both Ukraine and Kazakhstan. The instigators were the liberal intelligentsia, who all their lives sat on the neck of the people who worked for the interests of the country, but this layer of professional talkers wanted money and power. They achieved this, but the country did not get any easier.
            1. +4
              8 January 2024 12: 29
              I lived in the East for 20 years, just like in the West: eternal greed, envy. As Vysotsky (Zheglov) said: “I was thinking about my little boar...” this is their essence: to suppress a song, snort some moonshine, a piece of lard for a snack and tell how they feed Muscovites.
            2. +6
              8 January 2024 12: 30
              The unilateral appeal adopted on December 5, 1991 by the Supreme Council of Ukraine “To the Parliaments and Peoples of the World”, by which it announced that “Ukraine considers the 1922 Treaty on the Establishment of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics with respect to itself null and void” is void, since in 1936 a new The Constitution of the USSR, with the entry into force of which the Constitution of the USSR of 1924 ceased to operate, including the Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922. The Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922 did not exist as an independent legal document.
              The withdrawal of the Republic of Ukraine from the USSR was possible only with a positive decision received at the USSR Referendum and the implementation of the USSR Law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I “On the procedure for resolving issues related to the withdrawal of a union republic from the USSR”.
              The USSR Constitution of 1977 was adopted by all the peoples of the USSR, and only the entire people of the USSR could give permission for Ukraine to leave the USSR.
              The exit of Ukraine without a nationwide referendum in the USSR and the failure to comply with the law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations.
              The Treaty "On Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine" dated May 31, 1997 ceased to be valid on April 1, 2019 due to its denunciation by Ukraine. The termination of this Treaty releases the Russian Federation from any obligation in relation to Ukraine.
              1. 0
                8 January 2024 22: 53
                Quote: Vlad Gor
                The unilateral appeal adopted on December 5, 1991 by the Supreme Council of Ukraine “To the Parliaments and Peoples of the World”, by which it announced that “Ukraine considers the 1922 Treaty on the Establishment of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics with respect to itself null and void” is void, since in 1936 a new The Constitution of the USSR, with the entry into force of which the Constitution of the USSR of 1924 ceased to operate, including the Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922. The Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922 did not exist as an independent legal document.
                The withdrawal of the Republic of Ukraine from the USSR was possible only with a positive decision received at the USSR Referendum and the implementation of the USSR Law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I “On the procedure for resolving issues related to the withdrawal of a union republic from the USSR”.
                The USSR Constitution of 1977 was adopted by all the peoples of the USSR, and only the entire people of the USSR could give permission for Ukraine to leave the USSR.
                The exit of Ukraine without a nationwide referendum in the USSR and the failure to comply with the law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations.
                The Treaty "On Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine" dated May 31, 1997 ceased to be valid on April 1, 2019 due to its denunciation by Ukraine. The termination of this Treaty releases the Russian Federation from any obligation in relation to Ukraine.

                There was no longer any USSR there by the time the Ukrainians came out
            3. AAK
              +14
              8 January 2024 13: 37
              Well, our Second President ordered the construction of a Center named after the First President and took very good care of his Family, although if you look into it, your son-in-law and daughter could have been landed on the southern shore of the Chukchi Sea for 10-12 years... well, the Second President thinks of himself as a statist and to some extent even an imperial... a paradox, however...
              1. +1
                8 January 2024 22: 09
                Quote: AAK
                Well, our Second President ordered the construction of a Center named after the First President and took very good care of his Family,

                The first decree signed by Vladimir Putin as President of the Russian Federation was the Decree “On guarantees to the President of the Russian Federation who has ceased to exercise his powers and to members of his family.”
                Here is the full text https://aif.ru/dontknows/file/1475256
            4. +1
              8 January 2024 15: 30
              Quote: Sergei Fonov
              The Union republics had to leave with the territory from which they were part of the USSR,

              Have you now recognized the Brest-Litovsk Treaty or what?
              Quote: Sergei Fonov
              The skirmishers were the liberal intelligentsia,

              Was your candidate member of the Politburo Yeltsin a liberal intelligentsia?
              1. +1
                8 January 2024 23: 02
                No, I recognized the existence of the Yeti, and the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was the first to be terminated by Germany, and then Russia was also annulled.
          2. +10
            8 January 2024 14: 59
            Quote: carpenter
            But you forgot that the all-Ukrainian referendum on December 1, 1991 said:

            Have you forgotten what happened a little earlier? More precisely, June 12, 1991, what is now presented to us as the “holiday of independence of the Russian Federation”? Was it not from that same Ukrainian SSR that we became “independent” and we didn’t think about what the Ukrainian SSR itself was proposed to do then? wink
            1. +9
              8 January 2024 18: 57
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              Have you forgotten what happened a little earlier? More precisely, June 12, 1991, which is now presented to us as a “holiday

              Exactly 1 year earlier.
              The Declaration of Independence (sovereignty) of the RSFSR was adopted at the Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR on June 12 1990 Mr.
              Actually...this Declaration began to work as a detonator.
              1. +4
                8 January 2024 23: 31
                Quote: ammunition
                Exactly 1 year earlier

                Agree. It was this First Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR that I had in mind. Wrong.
        2. +7
          8 January 2024 10: 01
          The author did not fully disclose the topic.
          The Ukrainian Armed Forces are hiding their air defense systems in urban areas from destruction by Russian missiles, hiding behind the civilian population, as they did in Mariupol and other cities.
          1. +14
            8 January 2024 13: 54
            Quote: Bearded
            The author did not fully disclose the topic.
            The Ukrainian Armed Forces are hiding their air defense systems in urban areas from destruction by Russian missiles, hiding behind the civilian population, as they did in Mariupol and other cities.

            In Moscow, air defense is also normal in buildings
          2. +1
            8 January 2024 22: 55
            Quote: Bearded
            The author did not fully disclose the topic.
            The Ukrainian Armed Forces are hiding their air defense systems in urban areas from destruction by Russian missiles, hiding behind the civilian population, as they did in Mariupol and other cities.

            Everyone has always done this, in almost all wars.
      2. +17
        8 January 2024 10: 22
        Carpenter, you're lying, more than 6% voted for preserving Union 80a in Ukraine. Over there, Borka the drunkard’s rating went through the roof, but that didn’t stop him from “winning” the elections. So not everything is so simple. And ask who was the first to “leave” from the USSR - Ukraine or the RSFSR.... I understand that now the “jingo-patriots” will be blown away, but I wrote this for the sake of fairness.
        1. -3
          8 January 2024 12: 10
          Quote: Vladimir M
          Carpenter, you're lying, more than 6% voted for preserving Union 80a in Ukraine.

          Why lie, read about the “All-Ukrainian Referendum”.
          On December 1, 1991, a referendum on the independence of Ukraine was held on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. Then 28 million Ukrainians voted “for” - that’s more than 90% of those who took part in the vote. Despite the fact that the Act of Declaration of Independence received record support in the western regions, Donbass and Crimea then said “yes” to independent Ukraine with a margin of 54% to 84% of the votes.

          This text was first published in December 2019.
          1. +10
            8 January 2024 12: 26
            You are distorting (or lying) again. Find out how the question stood at the referendum on March 17, 1991 and how the population of Ukraine voted. Regarding the referendum on December 1, 1991 in Ukraine, you “forgot” to say when the declaration of independence of the RSFSR was adopted and by whom it was adopted. This is so similar to the “hurray patriots” - they see a straw in someone else’s eye, but don’t even notice a log in their own.
            1. +1
              8 January 2024 12: 45
              P.S. I didn’t give you any downvotes, I just don’t see the need for it.
            2. 0
              9 January 2024 13: 00
              The RSFSR adopted a Declaration of state sovereignty, not independence. It did not talk about leaving the USSR. Although I myself have a negative attitude towards this document, and for me personally June 12 is not a holiday. The same declarations were adopted in all other union republics and even in most autonomous ones.
              1. +3
                9 January 2024 13: 34
                It was with this declaration of sovereignty that the USSR collapsed.
        2. +4
          8 January 2024 12: 52
          Over there, Borka the drunkard’s rating went through the roof, but that didn’t stop him from “winning” the elections.

          Yeltsin won without quotes. Even when he could barely speak, he appeared on the screen and told the people to go and vote for Putin after Yeltsin left office - the people went and voted.
          And Yeltsin left on his own and with dignity. Yes, he could no longer control, it was clear, but I think if he had dreamed of eternal rule, he could have resisted and held on for a few more years, it’s just that not all people are in love with the idea of ​​​​eternity.
          And maybe he is a drunk, but the Perm bicycle plant, the Yugo-Kama, and Moscow ball bearing plants were closed not under him, but later.
          1. +5
            8 January 2024 13: 08
            Especially in 96, when Zyuganov simply drifted away from fighting for the truth. And he left because the “family” decided so in order to maintain influence and property.
          2. +2
            8 January 2024 16: 22
            An avalanche begins with the fall of one small, unstable pebble, and everyone who gets in the way suffers.
      3. 0
        8 January 2024 13: 44
        Quote: carpenter
        The collapse had been in preparation not for a year or two, but for decades.

        Yes it is. But the figure of 80% is exaggerated. This figure was given by the Ukrainian Central Election Commission and, I am sure, it doubled the real figure. Hence the 80%.
        1. 0
          15 January 2024 23: 00
          The collapse had been in preparation since the death of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. The release of traitors and Banderaites, the withdrawal of the Central Committee from the jurisdiction of the laws of the USSR. Nepotism, etc. Children of high-ranking party members, who essentially came to power in 91. Much more can be said, but one can also be called to account by the relevant authorities.
      4. 0
        12 January 2024 08: 36
        The collapse was prepared from above and from the outside, but not from below.
      5. 0
        15 January 2024 22: 56
        I dare to disagree. The last poll of the people in 91, if memory serves, showed that ordinary people did not want the collapse of the USSR. And they still regret it. But the princelings, who wanted power and money, did it their way. Elections and other nonsense, this is the right to elect someone who has already been approved for a position.
    2. +2
      9 January 2024 14: 26
      It could have been done simpler - just not collapse the USSR.

      There is a good Chinese proverb. Regretting past mistakes is the stupidest thing to do.
  2. Msi
    +12
    8 January 2024 05: 21
    If Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners so want to kill their own people with such interception tactics, excuse me, but God will not be their judge.

    What are you talking about, Roman??? They killed their own people in the Kharkov region and the Kherson region. We are fierce enemies for them, they hate us, stop having illusions about any bitches... Wearing the uniform is guilty... must be killed...
  3. +27
    8 January 2024 05: 31
    . We also have the opportunity to hit areas. In Kyiv, for example. In places where people walk.

    What about bridges? For electricity generation?

    Why wasn’t the matter completed and the electricity turned off? Then not a single military enterprise would work. And people would be walking, not working there.
    1. +5
      8 January 2024 07: 19
      Quote: Stas157
      Why wasn’t the matter completed and the electricity turned off? Then not a single military enterprise would work. And people would be walking, not working there.

      Well, they turned off the electricity, deprived the enemy of fuel, stopped factories, and destroyed bridges. The enemy is paralyzed, we won, so what?! What to do next?
      What you, I and all sensible people are proposing can lead to a fairly quick victory and the achievement of the stated goals of the NWO. This means that the SVO began for completely different purposes that were not announced to us. In the meantime:
      ... But we hit military targets, and very sensitively. And we will continue to do so."
      Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
    2. +30
      8 January 2024 07: 21
      What about bridges? For electricity generation?

      Why wasn’t the matter completed and the electricity turned off? Then not a single military enterprise would work. And people would be walking, not working there.

      And at the Kremenchug Refinery, Odessa Refinery, when will it fly in and wipe it into dust? And with 750 kV transformer distribution substations? That is, a sewing workshop is more important than a refinery that produces diesel for tanks? Who chooses the targets for attacks and where does it come from?
      1. +27
        8 January 2024 07: 36
        Maybe the refinery belongs to respected people. They cannot be deprived of their property.
        1. -1
          8 January 2024 12: 34
          at one time Tatneft was a shareholder of this plant. then the courts, the courts
          https://m.realnoevremya.ru/articles/246832-kak-tatneft-priobrela-i-poteryala-kremenchugskiy-npz
      2. +19
        8 January 2024 07: 42
        Quote: Sergey_Bely
        And at the Kremenchug Refinery, Odessa Refinery, when will it fly in and wipe it into dust?

        There, and in addition to refineries, there are many vulnerable targets, for example, a seaport or railway junctions. This will immediately paralyze the whole of Ukraine. In any case, arms supplies are definitely
        1. -4
          8 January 2024 16: 13
          To stop the operation of the plant, at least a dozen missiles are needed, and to completely destroy the plant it will take several dozen missiles. Where can I get rockets? Even transformer substations can be restored in a couple of days; Europe will provide new transformers. Therefore, it is impossible for us to destroy their industry. For the same reason, we cannot break bridges across the Dnieper. Our bombers could destroy bridges and factories, but the enemy’s air defense is strong.
          Although what surprises me is not our use of anti-radar missiles, but that we don’t have these missiles either?
          1. +1
            8 January 2024 22: 20
            Listen to less TV. Don't repeat nonsense about bridges.
        2. -1
          9 January 2024 14: 28
          seaport or railway junctions.

          They are bombed regularly.
    3. -7
      8 January 2024 13: 05
      Quote: Stas157
      Why wasn’t the matter completed and the electricity turned off? Then not a single military enterprise would work. And people would be walking, not working there.

      Meanwhile, a group of British officers went home after serving in Ukraine.
      A warm welcome awaited them at home.
      1. +9
        8 January 2024 15: 39
        The photo shows British military personnel who died in a plane crash in 2006.
        1. +9
          8 January 2024 21: 45
          Quote: Negro
          The photo shows British military personnel who died in a plane crash in 2006.
          It doesn’t matter, this happens here when you really need to throw it in... winked
        2. -1
          9 January 2024 16: 20
          Quote: Negro
          The photo shows British military personnel who died in a plane crash in 2006.

          Did not know.
          I uploaded it from Telegram, where it was claimed that this was a modern photo.
          But this doesn’t change the essence!
          I hope that these days the number of dead razors delivered weekly to United Kingdom is many times greater than in this photo!
          1. +3
            9 January 2024 18: 40
            All the cases that we know for sure are some kind of vague single volunteers. The statements of armchair patriots that NATO soldiers (who, as you know, do not fight without diapers and Coca-Cola) en masse subscribe to such fornicators as the SVO seem very strange to me. Not even soldiers, but officers and generals.

            Whose mill are you pouring water on?
  4. +5
    8 January 2024 05: 35
    The whole problem with Belgorod is that the border with Ukraine is on average 30-35 km. And a city with a population of 300 thousand people is just a gorgeous target. Another question is for whom. But - it’s very convenient to fire MLRS “Alder” rockets at the city (Czech “Vampires” do not reach)

    These are standard versions of missiles with a range of 20 km, Excalibur Army (who makes the Czech MLRS) makes proposals up to 40 km.
    https://www.excaliburarmy.cz/ru/raketnye-ustanovki-p10
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  6. +28
    8 January 2024 05: 54
    It's pulling on a rope. Execution is a matter of respect for an honest enemy. In our case, a rope


    As long as it doesn't amount to a "gesture of goodwill".

    Let us remember the English mercenaries who were sentenced to death and released on all four sides, or the top “Azovites” who were sent in transit to Ukraine through Turkey instead of a pre-trial detention center.
    One Englishman and the "Azovites" again took up arms.

    Output.
    If Colonel Kelembeta falls into the hands of our fighters, it would be better to lynch him on the spot out of harm’s way.
    1. +10
      8 January 2024 08: 38
      Quote: Comrade
      It's pulling on a rope. Execution is a matter of respect for an honest enemy. In our case, a rope

      Output.
      If Colonel Kelembeta falls into the hands of our fighters, it would be better to lynch him on the spot out of harm’s way.

      Wow, I still have to get my hands dirty. Tie your hands, put a grenade in your bosom without a pin and release it to your own people through a minefield!
      1. +2
        8 January 2024 08: 47
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Quote: Comrade
        It's pulling on a rope. Execution is a matter of respect for an honest enemy. In our case, a rope

        Output.
        If Colonel Kelembeta falls into the hands of our fighters, it would be better to lynch him on the spot out of harm’s way.

        Wow, I still have to get my hands dirty. Tie your hands, put a grenade in your bosom without a pin and release it to your own people through a minefield!

        Maybe it would be easier to hang it on the first tree you come across? Mines could be useful in the event of an attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    2. 0
      9 January 2024 14: 29
      out of harm's way, it's better to lynch him on the spot.

      Why lynch? Right on the spot and judge and hang.
    3. +1
      10 January 2024 02: 25
      and before that, in 2014, a certain deputy “lyashko” - a fighting cockerel of that period - was captured. There were videos of his interrogations. Then they let me go, because “serious people” asked.
      There is war outside, Donetsk is already in flames, and serious people have allowed some ideological enemy to be released.

      PS: one of these Britons sang the Russian anthem in Russian in the bullpen while he was sitting. I saw the video myself.
      He really wanted to live and was afraid of execution.
      And now, I took a ride on Abramov’s plane, ate tiramisu, got an iPhone, rested in Turkey - and again at the front.
      again respected serious people asked to save it...
      PPP: ashamed.. for our power..
  7. +24
    8 January 2024 06: 25
    Here's how to look. I have already been convinced that there are only Nazis in Ukraine now. There is no need to explain this to me for the hundredth time.
    Another thing I’m interested in is why the Russian authorities don’t want to drive the Nazis away from Donetsk and Belgorod, at least five hundred kilometers?
    1. +1
      9 January 2024 14: 32
      Another thing I’m interested in is why the Russian authorities don’t want to drive the Nazis away from Donetsk and Belgorod, at least five hundred kilometers?

      Maybe it's worth looking at the map? 500 kilometers from Belgorod is already beyond Kiev.
      1. +1
        9 January 2024 15: 46
        Well, you see how good it is. The further the better.
  8. +7
    8 January 2024 06: 36
    Initially, UkrPPO, such placement of air defense systems was a necessary measure, due to the small number of those air defense systems, they were forced to place them at such a distance as to close approaches to objects from all angles, but now there are enough complexes in the defense of Kyiv and that’s why they don’t change them scheme, they will tell us about this after our Victory
    1. +11
      8 January 2024 07: 12
      Here another question has arisen: December 29.12, a missile attack on Ukraine, everyone is happy, their air defense is working, residential buildings are burning. 30.12 flies to Belgorod, cars are on fire, everyone is in shock. New Year January 1-2, strikes throughout the entire territory of Ukraine. I wonder if our fighters thought the Ukrainians wouldn’t strike? Why didn’t they bring additional air defense systems to Belgorod when they already knew where to hit?
      1. +3
        8 January 2024 13: 18
        Here another question has arisen: December 29.12, a missile attack on Ukraine, everyone is happy, their air defense is working, residential buildings are burning. 30.12 flies to Belgorod, cars are on fire, everyone is in shock. New Year January 1-2 strikes throughout the entire territory of Ukraine. I wonder if our fighters thought the Ukrainians wouldn’t strike?

        That's right, the retaliatory strike on Belgorod was quite predictable.
        If the stars light up, it means someone needs it.
        At least after this, talk about a peace-truce on both sides stopped.
        1. +4
          8 January 2024 16: 11
          All this is beneficial for Putin, like in difficult times they will rally around him. But no one remembers the fact that because of his inaction our territories are being shelled and Russian citizens are dying. And when our citizens die, talking about increasing demographics is.....
      2. +2
        8 January 2024 14: 01
        Quote: Skif3216
        Why didn’t they bring additional air defense systems to Belgorod when they already knew where to hit?

        Because there are really few complexes. We also need to cover the bridge, Crimea, Moscow and at least a little territory in general. Look how many air defense regiments there were in the Union and how many there are now
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      3. 0
        9 January 2024 14: 36
        Why didn’t they bring additional air defense systems to Belgorod when they already knew where to hit?

        This needs to be pulled in from all over the country. Air defense is generally not designed to combat MLRS.
        And here in general is a task that has not been posed before. Let's be honest, all air defense in the world is object-based.
        And Ukrainians don’t care which part of the city they go to.
        The only exception is Moscow's air defense, but it is one-time only in case of nuclear weapons.
    2. +2
      8 January 2024 07: 18
      Yes, everything is simple there... just as they were hiding behind the peace, they are hiding! hi They’ll roll it out in the field and that’s it! And here, the pig squeals to the whole world, the Russians are beating the civilians, give me some pennies to fight off the “orcs” Yes
    3. +3
      8 January 2024 08: 24
      Quote: svp67
      they will tell us about this after our Victory

      But this is unlikely, dear Sergey. They will lie that “there was no order”
      1. +1
        8 January 2024 11: 03
        Madam hi
        Quote: Egoza
        They will lie that “there was no order”

        This is unlikely, we have specialists to bring such people to light, they are not the first
        1. +1
          8 January 2024 13: 21
          This is unlikely, we have specialists to bring such people to light, they are not the first

          As a result, everyone tells what they want to hear from them, and the truth cannot be found out at all. And you, of course, are sure that the wallet will not be thrown to you, they will not hit you with a sledgehammer on the head, and the specialists will not process you, but you are forever insured against all this. Oh well.
          1. +1
            9 January 2024 14: 37
            you are forever insured from all this.

            No one is safe here; it’s a matter of priority.
          2. +1
            10 January 2024 10: 14
            It’s easier to start with the article. A simple question: is there really no military in Belgorod?
            https://army-today.ru/wch/belgorod
            And all the pathos of the article will be blown away at that very moment.:((
    4. +1
      8 January 2024 18: 17
      Quote: svp67
      due to the small number of those air defense systems, they were forced to place them at such a distance as to block approaches to objects from all angles

      Has the enemy really acquired more air defense systems in two years? Even taking into account Western supplies, air defense should be reduced.
      Quote: svp67
      but now there are enough complexes protecting Kyiv and that’s why they don’t change the scheme, they will tell us about this after our Victory

      Even if we assume that all air defense was transferred to Kyiv and were able to increase the density, the scheme is not changed because they want to maintain effectiveness, because the mass of our attacks is increasing. They will talk about this. But they won’t tell you about the fact that they don’t change the scheme also because it’s easier to preserve your air defense this way, and even get political dividends from the consequences of repelling our missiles. We'll have to prove it.
  9. +8
    8 January 2024 06: 36
    Quote: Gardamir
    Another thing I’m interested in is why the Russian authorities don’t want to drive the Nazis away from Donetsk and Belgorod, at least five hundred kilometers?

    You're not the only one interested in this. request
    I don’t understand either...after all, knowing how Bandera’s people love to kill civilians, it is logical to assume that sooner or later there will be a blow to civilians...people like Farion would gladly organize a second Volyn in Belgorod.
    1. +16
      8 January 2024 08: 44
      I seem to be a service person, but the behavior of our Defense Ministry and government does not reach me. How can you schedule a database like this? Every cook is already saying, hit bridges, tunnels, roads, stop the supply of weapons to IEDs, but this does not reach the General Staff. This begs the question. And who do the Russian General Staff and the government work for?
      1. +6
        8 January 2024 14: 11
        This begs the question. And who do the Russian General Staff and the government work for?

        So that such a question does not arise, it is necessary to throw naked parties or other scandals at the people, so that they have something to do and someone to fight with.
      2. +1
        8 January 2024 16: 14
        The generals' brains are liquefied. There is a lot here that many people don’t understand. This is the same thing as there is no one in the whole country except Putin.
        1. +2
          9 January 2024 14: 40
          This is the same thing as there is no one in the whole country except Putin.

          Are you starting the election campaign?
          In vain.
          The next president is known.
          This is just de bi lam from 404 and the geyropki is unclear.
      3. -2
        9 January 2024 14: 46
        every cook says hit bridges, tunnels, roads

        Thank God that our General Staff does not listen to the cooks.
        Beat the roads? Hit the asphalt with rockets for a few bucks? Maybe it would be better to give the General Staff a hint with your head.
        Stop the flow of weapons by destroying bridges?
        And the cook doesn’t know how much it will take to throw ALL the leo and ALL the abrashkas across the Dnieper PAST THE BRIDGES.
        So I will say in 8 hours EIGHT HOURS CARL!!!.
        But I really want to look at the picture of the collapsed supports.
        And how are you different from Lyusya Arrestovich?
        1. +4
          9 January 2024 15: 42
          But I really want to look at the picture of the collapsed supports


          I wonder why people build bridges at all? What if everything moves so well without them? Here I live in St. Petersburg. In your opinion, maybe there won’t be all the bridges across the Neva and nothing will change? I imagine this picture of how it takes eight hours to ferry each car, which itself drives across the bridge in a minute.
          Actually it turns out interesting.
          For some reason, discussions about the cost of rockets, a thorough search for meaning and endless philosophy begin with questions about bridges, ports and railways.
          The advisability of storming some barn, which will then still have to be given back to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, since there is no way to gain a foothold, is not subject to discussion.
          Why is that?
        2. 0
          12 January 2024 08: 58
          Amateurs always believe that they are the smartest and smartest than all the generals combined, who supposedly have liquefied brains...
          1. -1
            15 January 2024 16: 12
            Who are the amateurs? Those who have a higher military position and have gone through more than one conflict, or those who do not have a higher one have become generals?
        3. -1
          15 January 2024 16: 10
          Do you know how much the life of a fighter on the front line costs? For people like you, “savings” is more valuable than human life. Gouge and permanently destroy the crossings with geraniums.
  10. +41
    8 January 2024 07: 23
    This is very weak from all points of view. The point of the article is that the enemy is evil, not good, well, just bullshit, and we are “non-takushi”. Well, why does he hide his air defense systems and not put them in an open field? This is not according to the rules, we don't play like that. However, there is a small problem - with such wonderful logic it is impossible to wage war. We need to somehow decide whether we are either fighting and then “complaining” that the enemy is fighting differently is absurd, or all this needs to end. But you can’t fight and complain at the same time.
    Now let’s look at the legal side of the issue - the author here pretends that he doesn’t hear or know anything, but all our complaints have already been answered a hundred times - Ukraine is defending itself, and you are the aggressors, so don’t complain, you don’t want anyone to die - leave the territory Ukraine.
    Here the author should ask a question: who so remarkably attacked the entire territory of Ukraine while simultaneously recognizing its government and territorial integrity? Well, here the author modestly looks away and does not ask such a question.
    And here we also need to decide. Either we are fighting for historical Russia, and then we will not recognize any Ukraine, or for the liberation of Ukraine and then we will not recognize the Maidan authorities, or we are not fighting at all.
    But attacking Ukraine and at the same time complaining that Zelinsky’s government refuses to negotiate with us, and the enemy is attacking our territory, is absurd and a path to defeat.
    1. +5
      8 January 2024 13: 01
      Absolutely true, neither add nor subtract! But, alas, no one will either refute or confirm this. Hence the “strange military operation”, it turns out...
    2. +4
      8 January 2024 13: 30
      The point of the article is that the enemy is evil, not good, well, just bullshit, and we are “non-takushi”. Well, why does he hide his air defense systems and not put them in an open field?

      If it's a conspiracy theory, Roman disappeared for a while (was he just relaxing on holidays, or for another reason?), and now he's trying to become a loyal subject.
      Suggests thought.
      P.S. I especially like the insults from this opera that the bad West doesn’t love us. If Ukrainians still somehow abuse their relatives, then why should the West love us?
  11. +6
    8 January 2024 07: 41
    Author, are you sure there is no military unit in the city? There was only one unit there for the whole city, and I doubt that it was taken anywhere.
    1. -2
      8 January 2024 15: 07
      https://www.radiosvoboda.org/a/news-belgorod-zahyblyi-pratsivnyi-slidkom/32755211.html
  12. +7
    8 January 2024 07: 46
    Given the limited air defense systems and the impossibility of providing cover on approach, it is quite understandable why the systems are installed close to residential areas, right in front of the object. Although the air defense forces are trying to create some kind of insurmountable zone on the Black Sea side in the Odessa area. Yes, and this has already been written about
    1. +15
      8 January 2024 08: 03
      An example of this is the placement of an air defense system on the roof of our Ministry of Defense
      1. +5
        8 January 2024 10: 27
        bairat, you don’t understand - this is different.... If anything, then this is sarcasm.
        1. 0
          8 January 2024 20: 49
          Quote: Vladimir M
          bairat, you don’t understand - this is different.... If anything, then this is sarcasm.
          This is really different. This is “military wisdom” in its purest form. They issued an order: “Take some measures against the drones!” They reported on the execution of the order: “They dragged a forty-ton car onto the roof!”
          40 tons?! This is serious... Well done!
  13. +10
    8 January 2024 08: 07
    Good article. But again a fly in the ointment. Europe not only did not condemn, but even called for the supply of even longer-range missiles for attacks on our border and in particular Belgorod. Therefore, leave all the tales about the trial/trials on your conscience. But the most important thing is why The Russian Armed Forces strikes at the military-industrial complex of Ukraine only as an act of revenge? Why don’t we destroy it systematically. Then there will be no question of Russia taking revenge or an act of retaliation. It turns out to be an excuse, although there should be destruction. Personally, I already see how Belgorod is being closed in all directions and I’m not I'm interested in what the authorities in Kyiv will do.
    1. +2
      8 January 2024 09: 53
      And I don’t like it. The only justification for the Defense Ministry, if you can call it that, is limited capabilities. We just fight as best we can. With human and technical resources.. Well, they produced a certain amount of weapons and hit them. En masse. At the moment ,this is our limit.
  14. +1
    8 January 2024 08: 47
    Horses and people mixed together... In this article. There is not the slightest sense in making excuses or explaining anything. We already understand everything, the West generally understands it too, but it will never admit it, because it’s the party line. Washington. A strong passage about the rope, but meaningless, has the legislation already been amended, or is it at least planned? Alas and ah, experience, which is the son of difficult mistakes, tells us something completely different.
  15. +13
    8 January 2024 09: 09
    We will have to organize our own. And take on the soldiers of the 107th Rocket Artillery Brigade
    Yeah, a lot of Azov residents were convicted? Many other criminals died in car accidents, got tangled in towels in the bathroom, or died in a bathhouse? Or is this not our method? Oh, yes, we are for an honest and fair trial..
    1. +5
      8 January 2024 09: 46
      Oh, yes, we are for an honest and fair trial..

      Let us add, the most humane court. True only in relation to seasoned criminals.
  16. +2
    8 January 2024 09: 56
    One thing is clear to me. There is a clash of far-right forces in the world. China is resting in such an environment. There is no need to expect anything positive.
  17. +1
    8 January 2024 09: 59
    The supermarket could have caught fire for another reason
    Managers were stealing.
  18. +12
    8 January 2024 11: 01
    In 2014, everything could have been completed almost bloodlessly. but the Swiss president arrived and made our guarantor an offer that he (the guarantor) could not refuse. And he put his personal interests above the interests of the country and people. And he continues to bet. And he invites the people to vote for him during a 3-day voting on the “stumps” in March 2024.
    1. +2
      8 January 2024 14: 48
      ...and made our guarantor an offer that he (the guarantor) could not refuse

      Listen, friend Vova, let's deceive you? Of course, deceive me, because I have been waiting and doing for a long time and will do everything for this, now and in the future. This is such a sad irony.
      1. -1
        10 January 2024 02: 29
        I thought I was a bourgeois, and I did bourgeois things, but I was deceived again (since) September 2023.
        confession of an old man.
  19. +3
    8 January 2024 11: 04
    Again they want to prove something to us, but let them install their air defense wherever they want, the blame lies with their military and the Kiev regime. And the one who loses will be judged, and the West doesn’t give a damn about our people, we are popuas for them.
    1. +8
      8 January 2024 12: 41
      The West doesn’t give a damn about our people, we are popuas for them.

      This is fine. Foreign countries, including Western ones, are not obliged to love us. The question is who we are to our own people!
    2. +8
      8 January 2024 13: 39
      The trend of these almost two years is that no one will win. The fact that some enemies of the USSR will agree to give up several percent of the territory to other enemies of the USSR, which will take decades to restore, is not a victory.
  20. +15
    8 January 2024 11: 29
    Another 100500th explanation. There have already been so many of them, both regular and official.
    I feel sorry for people. They don’t care whether they went “to heaven” from downed missiles, from unshot down missiles, burned in a fire, froze in the cold, or whether their heart gave out from stress...
  21. +10
    8 January 2024 11: 47
    The existing political system in Ukraine is officially recognized by Russia as legal. Everything that the leadership of Ukraine does is legitimate from the point of view of the law. So what kind of court are we talking about?
    1. +5
      8 January 2024 12: 19
      The existing political system in Ukraine has been officially recognized as legal by Russia.
      As soon as Poroshenko became president, the junta turned into a government. Now, a different picture, the government, has turned into a regime. smile
      1. -2
        8 January 2024 12: 54
        Well, we recognized Hitler’s regime as legitimate, and signed agreements and collaborated in the economy... However, the “legitimate” one had to shoot himself
        1. +11
          8 January 2024 13: 28
          Well, we recognized Hitler’s regime as legitimate
          Let's figure it out. Soviet Russia established economic and diplomatic relations in 1920. And even until 1934 they collaborated with Germany in the military sphere. Hitler came to power as a result of elections, not a coup. Moreover, the USSR, after being recognized by England, was recognized by many European states that were ruled by fascist regimes to one degree or another, the Baltic states, Poland, Italy, but using modern terminology on the site, “revolutionary-conservative” smile nice democratic governments with a kind smile. laughing And don’t put an equal sign between the USSR and the modern Russian Federation. Or you and the Russian Federation won the Great Patriotic War. The USSR, during the war, did not sell oil to Germany.. hi
          1. -2
            8 January 2024 15: 34
            Quote: parusnik
            The USSR did not sell oil to Germany during the war...

            I didn’t sell it to Germany, but I sold it to Japan.
            1. +4
              8 January 2024 16: 41
              Did you sell it when hostilities were going on between Japan and the USSR?
              1. +2
                8 January 2024 17: 16
                Quote: parusnik
                did you sell it when hostilities were going on between Japan and the USSR?

                You mean in the last week? No, Nimitz would be against it. However, it didn’t seem to reach Nimitz; they stopped it in ’43.
                Why the question? Is Russia at war with someone?
        2. +6
          8 January 2024 14: 33
          Yes, I forgot to add, the USSR maintained relations with Horthy Hungary, Salazar’s Portugal even before the Great Patriotic War, but with Spain, where as a result of a military rebellion and civil war the “conservative” Franco came to power, relations were not maintained until his death, so respected on the site this man and were restored only in 1975 or a little later. The above countries made a proposal to establish diplomatic relations. Hungary and Portugal. hi Yes, by the way, didn’t you notice that in two years of the Northeast Military District, there were no reports of damage to gas and oil pipelines running through Ukraine, either on the Ukrainian side or on ours? And the rest of the wires?
          1. +1
            8 January 2024 15: 32
            Quote: parusnik
            other wires?

            Were. Bandera's men blew up the ammonia pipeline to Odessa, I remember.
            1. +3
              8 January 2024 16: 47
              Bandera's men blew up the ammonia pipeline
              And it still doesn't work?
              1. +2
                8 January 2024 17: 16
                Quote: parusnik
                Is it still not functioning?

                I don't know, but it seems not.
          2. +1
            10 January 2024 02: 31
            near Kupyansk some kind of ammonia pipeline was blown up in the fall.
            The noise was that the Nazis would begin to retreat because of the smell, and we would attack...
            The matter did not move beyond nightingale droppings and scaboe ravings on this topic.
        3. +4
          8 January 2024 19: 03
          At that time, after the coup in Ukraine, Putin’s recognition of Poroshenko’s legitimacy was not understandable, when, as they say, every cook understood that there was no need to recognize this power, especially knowing not from our point of view, I mean the common people, the background of this coup, and in the end In the end we see what this led to.
          1. -2
            9 January 2024 08: 09
            Quote from rafat
            At that time, after the coup in Ukraine, Putin’s recognition of Poroshenko’s legitimacy was not understandable, when, as they say, every cook understood that there was no need to recognize this power, especially knowing not from our point of view, I mean the common people, the background of this coup, and in the end In the end we see what this led to.

            Poroshenko is the legally elected president of the people. Whether you recognize him or not is your own business. Yanukovych’s powers expired after the popular elections. And now attempts to displace the government elected by the people look somehow frivolous.
  22. BAI
    +7
    8 January 2024 11: 59
    There is a war going on. The shelling of Belgorod and other cities is a direct responsibility of Ukraine. Russia's responsibility is to prevent and repel these attacks
    1. +1
      8 January 2024 21: 50
      The shelling of Belgorod and other cities is the direct responsibility of Ukraine.

      But still not cities (this is terrorism), but military and important infrastructure facilities in the city of military significance.
  23. +8
    8 January 2024 12: 34
    People are dying, I especially feel sorry for the children on both sides of the front line, because in reality the children are not to blame for what is happening.

    Are the adults to blame?
    How, approximately, can I influence our government, or the Ukrainian one, can you tell me?
    I'm really tired of this endless poking at children. Like the fact that adults were killed, that’s just some nonsense that doesn’t matter.
  24. +1
    8 January 2024 12: 45
    oh, how they love it in Ukraine
    Not “in Ukraine”, but “in Ukraine”. These are the rules of the Russian language.
  25. +6
    8 January 2024 14: 29
    Object air defense is not used differently - only directly near the object. In order to shoot down cruise missiles on approach, many times more anti-aircraft installations are needed, because a cruise missile can come from any direction. The whole “crime” is that they don’t have enough air defense to block the approaches.
  26. +2
    8 January 2024 15: 01
    Question to the leadership of the Russian Federation - you started this, but where is the creation of a zone where nothing will reach the territory of the Russian Federation???
    1. 0
      12 January 2024 09: 18
      It was not the leadership of the Russian Federation that started this, it only reacted, and even then very late, cautiously and hesitantly.
  27. +1
    8 January 2024 16: 20
    Who will be waiting for the trial? no one, remember "the basics"
  28. -2
    8 January 2024 16: 54
    In order for the trial of Ukrainian Nazis and war criminals to take place, a Victory, like in 1945, is necessary.
  29. -3
    8 January 2024 17: 50
    No, not The Hague. We will have to organize our own. And take on the fighters of the 107th Rocket Artillery Brigade, who were armed with

    It will be necessary to attract not only from the 107th, but all the artillerymen who hit the cities, especially Donetsk. Everyone - from privates to commanders in the period of service from 2014 to the present day and later. There are no innocents there!
  30. -1
    8 January 2024 18: 42
    Excellent article, forum users are a little angry, apparently after the New Year and before going to work :)
  31. +1
    8 January 2024 21: 38
    I know that there are a lot of them who read “VO” in other languages ​​and their opinions are quite ambiguous. It all depends on what picture the media shows.
    Yes, people have rather ambiguous opinions and they are based not only on the media, but also on their own “observations” and information from friends and relatives...
  32. 0
    8 January 2024 21: 45
    He served as a conscript in the 107th Leningrad Brigade in Kremenchug back in the USSR. Then it was armed with operational-tactical missiles with a range of 300 km. Thank God the Americans forced them to cut them down and Ukraine rearmed their brigade with MLRS. Now he shoots around Belgorod without a twinge of conscience. Such is life. Still, I think that a retaliatory strike is needed, but not on residential areas, but for example on the Darnitsky railway bridge in Kyiv.
    1. -1
      9 January 2024 00: 37
      The main “TARGETS” for Russian missiles should be objects in which there are Ukrainian war criminals giving orders and those who carry out these orders. Starting from the so-called President of Nepromezhnaya and the Verkhovna Rada, to those who directly carry out criminal orders. Those guilty of crimes, both against civilians and against Russian military personnel, should not be taken prisoner. This concerns, first of all, the Nazis from the National Battalions.
  33. 0
    8 January 2024 21: 50
    The author of the article mentioned Belgorod. And Donetsk?
  34. -1
    9 January 2024 00: 04
    Those who really just need to “let their guts out” are the American furry Yankeles. As they say, God himself commanded. And it is not just words. And after this, quite possibly there should be “SILENCE”!
  35. +2
    9 January 2024 10: 29
    This is all in favor of the “Poor” - This is shown by the experience of the Jews in the war in the Great Patriotic War.
    The loser will be remembered by everyone.
  36. +1
    9 January 2024 11: 44
    Read the press for April - May 2023. There, it has been repeatedly stated, and not only by our authors, that no later than May 23. The country will run out of all 300 Soviet-made S-404 anti-aircraft missiles; there are about 450 of them left for April for 60-70 installations. , and more after June 2023
    vile Soviet missiles will not fall on their residential buildings. January 24, Soviet missiles are not running out, although hundreds of targets are coming from Russian territory per month, according to our Ministry of Defense, only for 23 (not counting 22). many thousands of missiles must be spent on intercepting many thousands of missiles, which shoot down everything, and in 2021 there were about 404 of them, according to the owners of the 3200th country (something else may have been delivered in 22 by Bulgaria and Cyprus), 2 years have passed since then, so where did the rest come from? Here I think a Miracle takes place, when the rockets, planes and helicopters of Ukraine simply reproduce by cloning, budding, division, whatever. This is what the spirit of the holy, life-giving Konashenkov does! But seriously, they only shoot at every tenth of our targets, but then how can we force them to shoot at all targets in order to quickly run out of stock? Is this also necessary for the safety of residential buildings in Kyiv?
    1. +1
      9 January 2024 14: 13
      In 404, initially, the air defense did not defend objects... They ambushed our aerospace forces... The most mobile air defense systems are BukM1. So they ran out of air defense systems... The S300 is not so mobile - the consumption is less.
  37. 0
    10 January 2024 05: 10
    Quote: carpenter
    Quote: peshik
    It could have been done simpler - just not collapse the USSR. Then there would be no need to do all these ordeals.

    The Union must fall apart, in any case. If back in the RSFSR, the people were for the Union, then in the same Ukraine, more than 80% were against it, and I think you know how the Russians were already treated in those days. I felt this before the collapse, while on business trips to Ukrainian enterprises. Well, I won’t say anything about the Central Asian and Baltic republics.
    The collapse had been in preparation not for a year or two, but for decades.

    Who is minus?, the person SAYS everything correctly!
  38. -2
    10 January 2024 09: 00
    Otherwise! Alas, the Old Testament roads have long been passed,
    But is their tragic lesson clear to everyone,
    That it is impossible to die for the Motherland
    For those who couldn't get it
    He will not bestow good on this world,
    Only sows evil, erecting profit in an idol,
    Besides, although from someone’s hard hand
    Every country has its fools
    But only the ohlas proved it in full,
    What can fools have their own country,
    And deprived of honor and duty
    And fools do not rule the country for long,
    And what a stupid nation,
    If they fight for the right to be sold,
    And even under grave troubles
    Incredibly grieving
    They can’t understand that they betrayed
    Together with Russia yourself?
    After all, the country was ohlam by Russia and donated,
    But like an ungrateful pig
    And under the ovs for the sake of profit lay down,
    And caused harm to Russia,
    Now Bandera degenerates are trembling,
    The militias of Donbass are taking revenge on them!
    <img alt="" src='https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/405s3ge9zia3svr/%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8.jpg?dl=0' title="" />
    <img src="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/mk1ntf97d6bm1kl/%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%B0.gif?dl=0" alt="" title="">
    <img src="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/q18ihskcxjrkvv4/%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB2.jpg?dl=0" alt="" title="">
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMvRdqG704c
  39. +2
    10 January 2024 10: 09
    Yes, everything was fine in Belgorod. Not a single military plant, no military units (they all somehow happened at a distance), nothing like that.

    I couldn’t believe the author that there were no military units in Belgorod. I asked the Internet.
    List of military units of the city of Belgorod

    Military unit 20925 357 Air Force Training Center 308026, Belgorod, Slavy Ave., 17
    Military unit 36815 308000, region. Belgorodskaya, Belgorod, pl. Sobornaya, 3
    Military unit 10831 308023, region. Belgorodskaya, Belgorod, st. Studencheskaya, 19
    Military unit 49693 308000, region. Belgorodskaya, Belgorod, st. Studencheskaya, 44

    https://army-today.ru/wch/belgorod
    https://voinskaya-chast.ru/voinskie-chasti-v-gorodax/voinskie-chasti-goroda-belgoroda-i-belgorodskoj-oblasti.html
    attacks on a city in which there are no troops, no military enterprises, no warehouses.

    The author could have checked first whether there was any basis for these statements, a simple three-minute check showed that the author was mistaken on a key issue on the topic of the article:((
  40. 0
    11 January 2024 10: 15
    It is believed that the Germans lost the Battle of Britain when, instead of continuing attacks on airfields and military factories, they switched to attacks on cities. In other words, strikes against military targets are much more important for war
    Therefore, the Russian army will continue to attack enemy military targets. And the enemy, of course, will try to show the picture in order to provoke a response.
    But there is only one way to protect Belgorod - to destroy enemy vehicles advancing to attack.
    1. 0
      12 January 2024 21: 29
      While Ukraine is hitting more military targets, especially the Black Sea fleet will not let you lie.