The murder of the ex-deputy of Kiva: not a special order and not a liquidation operation

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The murder of the ex-deputy of Kiva: not a special order and not a liquidation operation


Is he a politician?


Recently, in the Moscow region, Ukrainian oppositionist Ilya Kiva was killed with two shots in the back. Since in Ukraine Kiva, in addition to its opposition to the Zelensky regime, became famous for its scandalous reputation, the Kyiv security services were immediately delighted and immediately took responsibility.



In Russia, too, most media and government agencies agreed that the SBU was behind the murder. Let's try to understand why this version was launched. Moreover, even in the West they made a suggestion to Ukraine, calling the murder of Kiva an extrajudicial execution.

But there are a lot of questions in this case, and the first of them is about the moral character of Kiva himself, the second is what role the Ukrainian special services could have played in the murder and which ones.

To present Kiva as almost a revolutionary, with a pro-Russian orientation, who suffered for Russia and for his political views, would be, to say the least, absurd. Ilya Kiva became seriously involved in political activities after a career as a businessman, top manager and social activist. Moreover, the latter type of activity was fraught with a criminal case for bribery.


What pushed him into politics, of course, was the Maidan of 2014, when Kiva joined the extremist organization Right Sector. Despite the fact that even then the Pravoseks aroused great suspicion among the authorities, especially after the Mukachevo incident, Kiva was given an amnesty and hired to work in the police. There he almost instantly received the rank of major and became commander of the Poltava battalion.

Not white, not fluffy


What followed was a brilliant career in law enforcement, activity in the ATO zone and brilliant work on television as the host of the “Traffic with Kiva” program, dedicated to drug crime. But this is not the main thing. Let us dwell further on the issue of his political views.

Is Kiva so white and fluffy that he could be given political asylum in Russia and even Russian citizenship?

Yes, at the time of his arrival in Russia, Kiva had already defected to the pro-Russian camp of Ukrainian politics and campaigned for Putin. But the political portrait of the ex-Rada deputy itself shows that, by and large, he simply did not have a political position.

Political activity for Kiva was more of a business. His statements during his career in the Right Sector are especially impressive. Kiva believed that all lovers of the Russian world should be erased from Ukrainian soil, Donbass should be taught to love Ukraine, and those who wear “Colorado ribbons” should be buried in the ground.

That is why it is very strange that a repentant Nazi was given political asylum in Russia. Bandera, at one time, also seemed to repent of his collaboration with the Germans and even served time in a concentration camp for this, but in the USSR and in many post-Soviet countries he tarnished his name forever.

Another question: what structure is behind the murder of Kiva. The question of the involvement of the Ukrainian special services in the crime is very controversial in many respects. In the foreground here is a heated dispute between the SBU and the Main Intelligence Directorate about whose merit this is, which can only evoke a sense of black humor. During the first Chechen war, Salman Raduev took responsibility for all incidents in Russia with tragic consequences.

If gas explodes somewhere or bandits blow up someone’s car during a showdown, Raduev is right there, which was generally convenient for Russian law enforcement agencies, since it eliminated the need for investigative actions. He had no competitors in this field; he was the one and only.

Revenge sector


There are two Raduevs at once: Budanov and Malyuk. The anecdotal situation that occurred suggests, of course, that these gentlemen officers do not care at all about their reputation, they present themselves, excuse the cynicism, in a comical light. But the point is not even this, but a number of other details.

First, the The Zelensky regime also has more serious enemies that could be eliminated first. For example, Arestovich, who fled to Poland, who, given the cooperation of Ukrainian and Western security forces, could generally be eliminated by the hands of more qualified Polish intelligence services.


Moreover, without traces or evidence: he died a sweet death, hit by a truck with chocolate. In the case of Kiva, according to some sources, a hunting rifle was used, which is generally not typical for the special services and is even unthinkable.

Second, the What raises questions is some deliberate unprofessionalism of the killer, who missed the shot in the head, only damaging it tangentially, but at the same time did not finish off Kiva, who fell after a successful shot in the back. Kiva remained alive for about an hour and, judging by the tracks, was crawling.

If he had received medical assistance in time, perhaps he would have remained alive given his remarkable health. The intelligence services don’t work like that, but they act for sure.

A more realistic option is revenge from the Right Sector or Azov militants for betrayal. This is practiced everywhere in extremist organizations.

Why in Russia?


A natural question arises as to why Kiva was not removed in Ukraine, although it was already clear then that he was a defector to the opposite camp.

There is a possibility that this is due to the fact that the most active criticism of “Azov” from Kiva occurred precisely during the SVO, and with the disclosure of information that “Azov” was classifying.

Considering that in “Azov”, no matter how hard Zelensky tried to clear it, there were still “Right Sector” militants who had connections with Russian skinheads and near-football, it is quite possible that, on his order, he worked from the first one he came across weapons some unprofessional Russian outcast.

Well, one should not discount the rather unclear history with Kiva business.

It is known that he had connections with criminal authorities, whom he met in an unclear way during the ATO, and he was also involved in the division of the Dnieper (formerly Dnepropetrovsk) under the wing of his then boss Arsen Avakov.

How much money Kiva transferred to Spain before leaving for Russia, and what he actually did there is unknown.

But the non-political version of the murder cannot be discounted either.
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  1. -4
    13 December 2023 02: 11
    Playing blindly on head-on courses. Both financially and politically. And the saddest thing is the exchange of people.
    Kiva was accepted by bvl on conditions that we do not recognize.
    Part of a small game for the east and center of the outskirts.
    I am more interested in the north-south and eastern direction, all politics. complex, connected to the mythical red lines.
    Suddenly it turned out that finance can sing romances and NOT provide security even for donkeys who bring those finances into the right offices.
    And as for the country...
    You need will and faith... Including Victory!
    Hey, talents...
    WHO WILL DECIDE TO SING DUBINUSHKA ON CENTRAL CHANNELS?
    Will the Vankas believe the singer?
    1. +10
      13 December 2023 03: 55
      There are a lot of meanings, for Kiva for sure. What matters here is not who, what matters is WHERE. In Russia, and with complete impunity...
      1. +4
        13 December 2023 06: 48
        What matters here is not who, what matters is WHERE. In Russia, and with complete impunity...
        I completely agree with you on this. It doesn’t matter what Kiva was and whether he was a threat to the Kyiv regime, what matters is that he was killed on Russian territory in the Moscow region. The Main Intelligence Directorate hastened to take responsibility in order to show once again that Ukrainian intelligence has long arms. In terms of information, this works well.
      2. +11
        13 December 2023 07: 27
        The text does not correspond to reality, the author is far from the criminal theme for sure. Kiva was killed by a professional, about which a report from Ukraine has already been posted, so all other versions can be closed. In terms of technique, everything was also clear, just like in a textbook - a shot to the body and a control shot to the head. Judging by the photo of Kiva’s face, it probably went to my head!
        As for the personality of this freak, there is no place to test it. Maybe someone, out of naivety, considers him a democrat and a revolutionary, but in fact he was an ordinary gopnik-bandit from the 90s, multiplied by the modern political realities of Ukraine. It is worth recalling that some time ago his assistants in Kyiv, very young guys, were killed with particular cruelty...
        And the most interesting thing is that he never got rid of his Ukrainian connections - he was guarded by a guy from Ukraine, he lived with a woman from the same place. That's who leaked it, most likely...
      3. +2
        13 December 2023 07: 41
        What matters here is not who, what matters is WHERE. In Russia, and with complete impunity...

        + 100!!!
      4. RMT
        +4
        13 December 2023 15: 19
        It’s too early to talk about impunity. But Kiva is an almost caricatured character in all periods of his life. Now no one will say a sincere kind word about him.
      5. +2
        13 December 2023 23: 42
        And every third person has a gun, which is not considered a weapon for contract killings, and how many unregistered sawn-off shotguns are even easier to get than a bullet barrel. Another fairy tale about: don’t be afraid, it’s not dill, everything is under control
  2. +5
    13 December 2023 03: 49
    in the case of Kiva, according to some data, a hunting rifle was used, which is generally not typical for the special services and is even unthinkable.

    And why is that?
    smile
    The criminal, through a hole in the fence, in the right place, at the right time, came out exactly to the meeting place with Kiva... the author, your version is bursting at the seams.
    That is, the killer knew perfectly well where Kiva would be at the time of the attempt on his life... however... the escape route was thought out in advance and the victim was not immediately discovered... the crime was thought out from start to finish, the suspect was never caught on camera (well, of course ) ...now the main thing is to reduce everything in the press to a household order...how simple it is...who could Kiva annoy like that...so that they would kill him so cunningly.
    1. +4
      13 December 2023 22: 32
      who could Kiva annoy so much...so that they could kill him so cunningly


      There is also this version from Prilepin -
      Today a letter arrived:

      “I read your post about Kiva. Kiva was “one of ours”. He worked, among other things, on military topics. I met him by chance at a meeting. I came, and there was Kiva. I was introduced as Zakhar Prilepin's man. Kiva smiled and said: “And we saw Zakhar.” He spoke absolutely pure Russian without a hint of any accent. His real name was different».

      It turns out that it was him in Donetsk after all. And he recognized me. What follows is a completely utter picture, right? We observe a person in one form, and he was either recruited a long time ago, or from the very beginning he was not what we thought.

      So you’ll die and you won’t know anything like that. You will think badly of the person and he actually comes from the same structure as you, only his length of service cannot be compared and his rank is higher. Well, or vice versa: you die and you find out something that if you were alive, you would turn gray from such news.”

      In full - https://fedpress.ru/expert-opinion/3285512
      1. GGV
        +1
        14 December 2023 13: 40
        This is nonsense. If he was a scout, then after he was taken out of the game, then his merits should be openly recognized and rewarded. If this cannot be done for some reason, for example, his agents are still active, then he (Kiva) should lie quietly “at the bottom” and not shine, or pretend that let’s say: “he died a heroic death,” and especially not go on TV shows. Well, as for Prilepin, I think everything is simple, someone asked me to say this for a “bribe” small ", for example, or some other political games.
  3. +9
    13 December 2023 04: 03
    When this character appeared on Russian political talk shows and taught Russians about life, and the participants in other events listened to him with understanding, I couldn’t even eat from hostility! He’s on his way to Hell!
    1. +4
      13 December 2023 09: 53
      Actually, it’s strange. Why do they give asylum to such people... The first refuge for such people should be the court, then what they deserve in total...
      1. +6
        13 December 2023 09: 59
        Everything is correct, such people should be given refuge in the IK, somewhere further north, for at least 25 years. And so I don’t feel sorry for him at all. Andrewkor wrote it correctly above.
      2. +1
        13 December 2023 15: 11
        Tell me who your friend is and I'll tell you who you are...
    2. +1
      13 December 2023 12: 40
      talk show and taught Russians about life

      Such characters will whitewash even Hitler for hard money. This “bull” definitely did not go to heaven.
    3. +3
      13 December 2023 15: 52
      this is the level of work of our Foreign Minister Chernomyrdin Zurabov Lavrov... they fed the offspring of Vitka and Medvedchuk and where they are now building the regime on. . I'm disgusted about this bald freak.
  4. +6
    13 December 2023 04: 37
    One less nasty guy. There is no guarantee that after a while he would not switch sides.
  5. -1
    13 December 2023 04: 38
    Quote: andrewkor
    and the participants in another action listened to him with understanding

    what
    Politics is a dirty business... our political beau monde sometimes smells so fragrant when dealing with such characters that mother, don't worry... but nothing can be done about it yet... to achieve goals, all means are good.
  6. +10
    13 December 2023 05: 01
    Bandera at one time also seemed to repent of his collaboration with the Germans and even served time in a concentration camp for it
    Oh, how! Bandera is almost an anti-fascist. laughing When did he repent? And when did he sit? And who released it? And who then liquidated him? And where? laughing
    1. +3
      14 December 2023 00: 13
      Quote: parusnik
      Bandera at one time also seemed to repent of his collaboration with the Germans and even served time in a concentration camp for it
      Oh, how! Bandera is almost an anti-fascist. laughing When did he repent? And when did he sit? And who released it? And who then liquidated him? And where? laughing

      In the thirties, I don’t remember exactly, it seems since 1934, Bandera was in a Polish prison for the murder of Minister Peratsky, and was released by the Germans when they captured Poland. In 1941, he was sent to a concentration camp for declaring an independent Ukraine, after the capture of Lvov by the Germans. Of course, the conditions of his detention in the concentration camp were nothing like those of Soviet prisoners of war. Eliminated in 1957 by a KGB officer in Germany, using a pistol loaded with hydrocyanic acid. He was awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Battle, then this agent fled to the West and surrendered everything he could, there was a big scandal and the heirs of P. Sudoplatov stopped their activities. bully hi
  7. +12
    13 December 2023 05: 21
    You know, I would regret his death only in one case, if from the very beginning he would have rushed there from the very beginning and showed himself on the battlefield, so to speak, would have atoned for his guilt before the people. And so it is customary to either speak well of the dead or nothing. And the second case is exactly about him....
    1. +11
      13 December 2023 11: 14
      “About the dead, either good or nothing, apart from the truth“, - a saying of the ancient Greek politician and poet Chilon from Sparta (VI century BC), cited by the historian Diogenes Laertius (III century AD) in his essay “The Life, Teaching and Opinions of Illustrious Philosophers.”
  8. +11
    13 December 2023 06: 32
    This guy made his mark in the Donbass during the ATO. I wouldn’t be surprised if a resident of Donbass killed him and took revenge for his “exploits”
  9. +11
    13 December 2023 06: 46
    “the option is revenge from the militants of the Right Sector or Azov for betrayal” is nonsense, these organizations do not have the means and strength to spy and obtain information in another country. “Option, the state of Ukraine (represented by the SBU, GUR)” is quite possible, but Ukraine didn’t really need it. I don’t argue that representatives of Azov, the Right Sector, the SBU, and the Main Intelligence Directorate could, and most likely did, participate in the murder. Most likely, there is a “fight going on” as to who will “steer” in the liberated territories.
  10. +6
    13 December 2023 07: 06
    It is absolutely not a fact that this was done by the SBU or the Main Intelligence Directorate, because... He could have done something bad in Russia, too, by getting involved with the local criminals.

    Before the Maidan he specialized in
    divorce of suckers,
    those. He took money for various topics that he had no intention of solving.
    1. +4
      13 December 2023 07: 29
      The assassination attempt on Tsarev from the same opera.
  11. +2
    13 December 2023 08: 20
    and he was also involved in the division of the Dnieper (formerly Dnepropetrovsk) under the wing of his then boss Arsen Avakov.
    Now... any of Avakov’s people, let alone Ekaterinoslav, well, even the local “Khazars” won’t let anyone near the border of the region, closer than the flight range of a bullet... Kharkov, this is his patrimony
  12. +4
    13 December 2023 08: 20
    The murder of the ex-deputy of Kiva: not a special order and not a liquidation operation
    It is not yet known exactly who liquidated Kiva, but his biography says that Kiva was an opportunist.
  13. +5
    13 December 2023 08: 26
    It doesn’t matter to me what motives someone had, it’s important to me that in Russia they kill a person and blow up an airplane with impunity.

    These are all failures of the authorities.
    1. +2
      13 December 2023 09: 30
      The most difficult thing to protect against is the initiative-lone individual. In an organized assassination attempt, there can always be leaks, because “what two people know, a pig knows,” and a lone individual is not connected to anyone. The option of revenge for the old is difficult to calculate, because there are many offended, and the culprit himself does not record them, but on the contrary, hides them. Judging by the scanty information, the picture of the assassination attempt strongly resembles the emotional revenge of a loner. Most likely, Kiva had an appointment, otherwise he would not have come within shooting distance of a lonely person in the park, because... feared an assassination attempt. The first shot from a gun in the face, from which he managed to deflect, receiving an injury to his temple, which was at first mistaken for a cut. After that, he started to run and was shot in the back. Two guns, two shots. The Avenger turned and left. Professionals don't work like that.
      1. +2
        13 December 2023 17: 16
        The devil's main task is to convince people that he does not exist.
        Or vice versa - this is how super-professionals work, who make everyone believe that non-professionals work.
        1. 0
          13 December 2023 19: 12
          Quote: S.Z.
          This is how super-professionals work, who make everyone believe that non-professionals work.

          Professionalism is quality control. The victim lived for several more hours, and this is not consistent with the layman's imitation.
          The murdered person could have time to call, name those involved in the meeting, he could have been seen and saved. There are a lot of uncertainties left to chance. Pros work under accident.
  14. +2
    13 December 2023 08: 37
    He had trampled too many feet to live in peace after that and not look back.
  15. +5
    13 December 2023 08: 58
    A character who is not interesting to anyone and does not mean anything, who has betrayed everyone and everything more than once. Nicodemus died - and to hell with him.
  16. +2
    13 December 2023 12: 45
    For some reason, a tear does not come to my eyes after reading it. Kiva’s job is like this. A tragic accident at work. Did not comply with labor safety rules. smile
  17. +2
    13 December 2023 12: 56
    What is said in the most stinking postulate of Christianity (I'm an atheist, by the way)?
    Gospel of Luke, chapter 15, verse 7: “I tell you that there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous people who do not need to repent.”

    But from a political point of view this is completely justified. When the most odious figures come over to your side at the very beginning of the conflict, this is much more valuable than hundreds of ordinary fighters who were mobilized.
    Why this is so, I think there is no need to explain.
    But the fact that our specialists were unable to ensure security is a major failure.
    1. -1
      13 December 2023 23: 05
      when the most odious figures come over to your side at the very beginning of the conflict, this is much more valuable than hundreds of ordinary fighters who were mobilized.
      Why this is so, I think there is no need to explain.

      It's very necessary. Why is this valuable? What is the value of the disgusting Nazi for whom the prison is crying? If, instead of imprisoning him, this asshole is licked, it looks strange, to say the least. This is a slap in the face of those. whoever suffered from him before is an indicator of lack of will and powerlessness, well, or extreme corruption, if he paid someone for the opportunity to live and make a career in Russia..
      1. +5
        14 December 2023 13: 23
        It's very necessary. Why is this valuable? What is the value of the disgusting Nazi for whom the prison is crying? If, instead of imprisoning him, this asshole is licked, it looks strange, to say the least. This is a slap in the face of those. whoever suffered from him before is an indicator of lack of will and powerlessness, well, or extreme corruption, if he paid someone for the opportunity to live and make a career in Russia..


        Spitting is not luring the enemy to your side, but gestures of “good will”, or when captured Azov residents were given back.
  18. Des
    +1
    13 December 2023 18: 21
    From a short, but still author's article: "... was amnestied and hired to work in the police. There he almost instantly received the rank of major and became the commander of the Poltava battalion." Well, this is what happens here in the Caucasus. There (in Ukraine), of course, this is surprising and slightly illegal.
    Again: “For example, Arestovich, who fled to Poland, who, given the cooperation of Ukrainian and Western security forces, could generally be eliminated by the hands of more qualified Polish intelligence services.” Arestovich, it seems, the “project” is not even of Poland)), but of a more financially secure state.
    Somehow it happened that I listened to (read) him when he was in Ukraine, and his speeches on TV. The impression is - alas and ah. Moreover, “ah” is precisely negative for everyone. Nobody needed him.
  19. +2
    13 December 2023 23: 41
    And he, this Kiva, killed people in Donbass. Someone's children, brothers, wives, mothers. Couldn't someone want to take revenge on him for this? I couldn’t get it in Ukraine for obvious reasons. But I got it in Russia. I saw that this Kiva was held in high esteem again and appeared on TV. I realized that I couldn’t do anything through law enforcement agencies. And he took everything into his own hands. Here the hunting rifle fits well into this version, as well as the rest of the shooter’s actions. Like - "the people's avenger". Why not ? It could have happened anyway.
  20. 0
    15 December 2023 13: 38
    All these thoughts of the author go nowhere. Even the blind and deaf understand that this is the work of the Ukronatsik. And their handwriting. What are they trying to achieve? Revenge? Yes! But the main thing is the idea that staying in Russia is not safe, they say we have long arms and we will get you. So they kill media people.
    1. 0
      15 December 2023 16: 09
      Quote: Glagol1
      Even the blind and deaf understand that this is the work of the Ukronatsik.

      The thesis is controversial (about coming out)... but quite workable. Maybe it’s the Nazis, maybe it’s Russian liberals, maybe it’s a vendetta (from his police times, for example), maybe... well, anyone can do it. Except for the special services! Not a single intelligence service in the world works so unprofessionally, not even the Ukrainian one! And in this the author is right - Budanov looks comical, trumpeting that this was an operation of his department.
      1. +1
        17 December 2023 17: 23
        Maybe Budanov looks comical, but his charges have already killed a lot of people. Especially in new entities. They blow up, shoot, cut - and of course, the best die.
  21. +2
    17 December 2023 08: 14
    There is no news about Prigozhin either. When there is no interest from our politicians, there is no protection or investigation. Although such shots are interesting at least because they attract killers.
  22. +1
    18 December 2023 21: 16
    When you write, the author...
    It feels like you are raving.
    They killed a Russian citizen, who was accepted into Russian citizenship by specially trained people.
    Who wrote off all of Ilya’s sins...
    It was probably for, what?!
    Apparently the author is infinitely far from understanding that it is possible to defeat Ukrainian-fascism only from within, and only with the help of the Ukrainians themselves.

    If the fascists had only killed Kiva...
    On the same day, a communist deputy was blown up in Lugansk, Russia.
    Watching inactively as people kill their own has become the norm for Russia.
    And now, let’s start throwing mud at us?
    List everyone who was killed or almost killed before?

    You can come up with an absolutely incredible story of motives for murder/attempt on each one. Write crazy articles and savor unfounded assumptions.
    Kiva will not be able to answer the author.

    Ilya Kiva, if you like, is a symbol of Ukraine, which first succumbed to Bandera’s confusion, then threw it off and came to Russia, sincerely and forever.
    If the author believes that people like Kiva are NOT worthy of living with him in the same power, then a scenario involving the cleansing of liberated Ukraine by the author’s children and grandchildren may come true.
    ps
    It’s not even about the murder of Ilya Kiva, but about the completely stupid reaction of Russian authors and commentators to this.
    He may be unlikable to most Russians, but he is an enemy of Ukrainian-fascism, which means he is my friend