Tajikistan, Afghanistan and the problems of the “Greater Eurasia” project, which it was decided to develop again

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Tajikistan, Afghanistan and the problems of the “Greater Eurasia” project, which it was decided to develop again

In one of the previous materials: “Is there potential for creating a Eurasian value zone or Greater Eurasia as an economic pole”, the prospects for the formation of the Eurasian economic bloc as a separate and independent player were analyzed. The material is part of a small series where trade relations and value chains are analyzed in detail.

Greater Eurasia


The world is actually diverging into value clusters, which even such an institution as the IMF cannot ignore. The whole question is: how these clusters are formed and what combinations are chosen not only by the largest, but also by players with less influence. Somewhere they simply go in the wake of changes, somewhere they contradict them on their own account and end up with economic losses, and sometimes something more than just losses.



They have been talking about “Greater Eurasia” for years; this project, like the one described in another material “The Path to India,” in our country either swells or subsides in politics, sometimes it is seized upon as the “main geopolitical concept of the future,” sometimes it is forgotten. Either we need USSR-2.0, then Europe from Lisbon to sunrise, and so on for twenty years in a row.

Recently, at the large-scale “One Belt, One Road” forum in Beijing, the Russian leader clearly outlined his priorities: the direction of trade “to the South” through three main corridors (China, Southeast Asia, India), the value cluster – “Greater Eurasia”.

That is, although all the indicators indicate that Russia is moving (and confidently) into the Chinese macroeconomic value zone, we decided to move along a different path, our own, separate one. Details and abstracts can be found in the material "One Belt, One Road" Forum. Important aspects of the positions of Russia and China".

It is no secret that the greatest irritant to society at the moment is migration policy. But this migration is external, simply the most noticeable and negatively bright tip of the iceberg, which is a kind of layer cake, where completely different layers exist at the same time, but very selectively interact: geopolitical schemes introduced by the management system, concepts that are developed by the levels below, overlap at each other and contradict each other, dozens of public-private projects being implemented outside the general plan, lobbying interests, etc.

The result of this layer cake was that when Moscow needed to re-establish a stake in the region, it had to act outside the normal project logic: goal setting, reserving funds, selecting elites, penetrating institutions, investment channels, trade channels, entering politics, etc. , but to use a rather complex combination of levers.

At one time, Moscow used such levers with relative success in Syria - through pressure at the desired key point, the policies of many players unfolded at once. The problem was that after achieving a certain effect, such a policy still found itself face to face with the traditional step-by-step scheme and began to stall.

In terms of Central Asia, there are two such levers involved today. The first one that is widely heard is a gas project based on the capabilities of the Central Asia - Center network and the internal networks of Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. The second, much less obvious and less “understood”, is the relationship between the Taliban movement (banned in the Russian Federation) and Tajikistan.

Curtsies


Many have drawn attention to the fact that this year Moscow has a much busier schedule of meetings not only in the “Central Asia” area, but also specifically in terms of interaction with Dushanbe. Some observers are observing with outright bewilderment Russia's obvious nods towards Dushanbe. And it must be said that migration lobbyists in Russia feel this trend very well, coming up with initiatives, one more “wonderful” than the other.

It would seem that another cycle of “pivot to Asia” has begun. Nowadays, few people will remember what discussions were held in 2018–2019. experts from different sides spoke weekly about the entry of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan into the EAEU, seemingly “a little more, a little more,” but everything traditionally disappeared somewhere.

However, there is a rather interesting feature that needs to be discussed separately.

This year, until May, there were very substantive negotiations on recognizing the Taliban government (banned in the Russian Federation). In the month of May, events occur within the Taliban itself, after which work on interstate platforms on this problem is actually curtailed.

From January to May, various players at the UN are discussing the possibility of considering the issue of recognition. The United States opposes this, as does the opposition to the Taliban, by the way. By May, the conditions for dialogue were ripe, and then the Taliban themselves, seemingly a very interested party, issued an order that women were prohibited from working in UN structures in Afghanistan.

This looks all the more enchanting since the discussion of their recognition was being prepared within the framework of the UN. The details of this collision, but in fact a provocation, which was moderated from the outside, playing on the contradictions between currents in the Taliban itself, can be read in the material “Afghanistan risks becoming a victim of the American game again”.

Let us note that the current fate of a player like I. Khan, who was still lucky in many ways, oddly enough, also turned out to be tied not to Ukraine or China, as was often described, but to exactly the same issue.

The discussion on the topic of recognition was reduced to zero, but delegations from the Afghan opposition, represented by the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan (A. Masud) and the Freedom Front of Afghanistan (Z. Yasin) movements, began to visit Russia frequently.

This turnaround looked quite sharp, given the efforts that had been made for a long time to build channels of interaction with the Taliban. Delegations came to meetings organized by the State Duma, as an initiative of one of the parliamentary parties. That is, it seems to be official, but not from the “main center”. Before this, A. Masuda was mainly seen at venues in Vienna.

The theses presented by the Afghan opposition were obvious: the Taliban does not control the spread of ISIS cells (banned in the Russian Federation), they do not fight opiates properly, there is no inclusiveness in power, which the Taliban previously announced, and the Taliban clearly does not plan to do so. At the same time, the Taliban are strengthening their military presence along the Tajik border and threatening Dushanbe for supporting the opposition based in Panjshir.

The nuance is that among the five countries closest to Russia and having a common border with Afghanistan, only Dushanbe has such tense relations with Kabul. China is negotiating with the Taliban, and from time to time you can even hear about various contracts. Iran not only resolved water issues in Helmand, but also signed several investment agreements with the Taliban. They are very interesting, and you can read about them in the material “Iran-Afghanistan trade strategy may puzzle US”.

Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, which, by the way, are quite dependent on the Kush-Tepa canal being built by the Taliban, do not publicly demonstrate the growth of concern. This does not mean that there are no frictions, for example, on long-standing issues of military equipment, but still there is no public dive with harsh statements. Representatives of the Taliban periodically come to Tashkent to discuss commerce. In November, for example, together with representatives of Qatar, they discussed the Trans-Afghan Railway project.

But in Dushanbe, despite the fact that there is commercial activity in Afghanistan (border trade, electricity), on the political field with the Taliban everything is more than complicated. E. Rahmon openly supports Panjshir, and, judging by the reviews among Tajik experts, helicopters fly there and from there.

The question is, why does Dushanbe need this friction?

Why does Dushanbe need friction?


There are several reasons for this, but two are especially worth highlighting.

The first is China's projects related to the Wakhan corridor. This section is extremely difficult in terms of terrain, but it is an access to the railway to lithium deposits. It would be strange if Dushanbe did not try to emphasize the influence on this area, adjacent to GBAO and in the south close to Panjshir ("Geopolitics on the peaks of the Hindu Kush"). The question is that we need to act carefully with China.

The second reason is internal political. The issue of the Tajiks in Panjshir is something akin to the issue of the Russian World in our country. This is the rallying element of the agenda. Unlike Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, Tajikistan does not have a clear elite political core - the country consists of three politically competing regions and GBAO, which is always on its own and “on its own”.

There has been a long discussion in Tajikistan about how ready E. Rahmon is to transfer leadership to his son, and so far it is clear that neither one nor the other is ready. In Turkmenistan, this process of nomination took place based on the old, established elite base, and the son of the leader of Turkmenistan, in general, was freed from internal opposition, which allowed him to calmly gain experience in politics.

But in Tajikistan, if such a mastodon as E. Rakhmon is replaced by someone weaker or less experienced, a variety of scenarios cannot be ruled out, including those supported from the outside. In the same GBAO, E. Rakhmon does not favor the Aga Khan Foundation, but how the structures actually incorporated into the odious USAID will behave is also a question.

But, on the other hand, the confrontation with the Taliban gives Dushanbe good chances to be permanently integrated into the current international agenda. These include negotiations in Vienna and Brussels, interaction with China and the United States, and, of course, with Moscow.

When it became clear that the Taliban have very little chance of developing into a single governing structure from a network structure, and they are playing very well on this in Washington, and it also became obvious that over the past year and a half the Central Asian “five” have essentially turned into a separate foreign policy player, relations between Tajikistan and Afghanistan have become the same potential lever that was mentioned at the beginning of the article.

In fact, it’s not that the Taliban are not fighting ISIS, but they cannot suppress them; Washington and Brussels constantly turn anti-Taliban rhetoric to their advantage; inter-elite problems in Tajikistan really pose a security threat.

But security is precisely the point through which one can institutionally and politically increase influence in Central Asia as a whole, making up for lost time. It is already extremely difficult to compete with China in the region, but by using leverage, it is quite possible to increase influence. It is clear that, taking into account the current and future energy balance, gas projects will eventually exceed the starting mark of 2,8 billion cubic meters. m. So it is with the issue of security: the border with Afghanistan is also our military base.

Documents were recently signed that formalized a common air defense zone in the region. But it is clear that air defense is not aimed at Aviation China, Pakistan or Iran. The Taliban retained aviation from the previous government of A. Ghani. Nobody wants to check where it could potentially fly, but the political leverage is quite decent. No one in Central Asia can relegate the issue of security from Afghanistan to the background, which means that the political possibilities of this lever for Russia have been and will be relevant.

In some ways, resolving security issues through Russia is also beneficial for China, which quite sensibly assesses that this is much better for the prospects of the Wakhan corridor. But China and Iran have their own relations with the Taliban and much less with the Afghan opposition, which means that Moscow will, one way or another, have certain limits for geopolitical maneuvers.

Migration lobby


Needless to say, Dushanbe has monetized all these trends and aspirations on our part and will continue to monetize them in a variety of forms. The problem is that this largely coincides with the interests of that notorious “migration lobby.”

On the one hand, a network of Russian language schools is being developed, on the other, an excess of free hands is heading north, the issue of lifting past administrative bans on entry into Russia is being discussed (and this, according to various estimates, is up to 500 thousand people), quotas for studying at universities, various initiatives arise such as the construction of separate medical centers, cultural and others.

And also, the discussion about the total shortage of labor in Russia has become very active. After all, we have economic growth? Height. Is it logical that there is not enough labor? Logical. Demographic hole? Pit. Try to discuss with the lobby. Let's take statistics, but who is closer to statistics? The synergy here with geopolitics is such that we will see many more initiatives.

It is possible in theory to propose a ban, albeit temporary, on the transfer of individual funds abroad in dollars in order to expand that same ruble zone to the CIS countries, a ban on dollar transfers of wages abroad in order to return a significant part of the relocants that liberals are so concerned about. It’s possible, but it won’t work out, since in our statistics we will immediately find a billion vacationers who urgently need it and just like that, the valuable gift of creativity will disappear from the relocants, migrant workers will not go (see about the shortage), and in fact everything will be blocked by a rather narrow layer individuals. And so it is everywhere and in everything.

This is the same multi-layered iceberg where the geopolitical line, having been “correctly” processed and presented proactively at the levels below, begins to live its own life, which often has a variety of vectors. The lobby is well versed in how to get theses about labor shortages onto the agenda, but not theses about productivity growth. Of course (but whatever), it was decided that the construction industry is our most important driver of growth, and why not the machine tool industry?

There is undoubtedly a logic to geopolitically intensifying oneself, entering the region through leverage and removing American and European tentacles from the Afghan opposition and Dushanbe. But there are also several serious problems.

The first is that levers without a broad economic basis, which leads to the mutual cementation of elites, ultimately have very limited effectiveness.

Here, as in a cartoon, when one character comes out with a “project” for collecting old knitwear: “step No. 1 - collect old knitwear,” “step No. 3 - profit.” What about step number 2? In Syria, we used leverage to shift an entire foreign policy layer, if not layers, we reached a certain point X, and then?

And then there is the economics of a question to which there is no answer. It is unclear how long the status quo will last there; the prospects are not obvious. It’s the same here - we go through pipes and security again, step No. 3 - “Greater Eurasia”, and step No. 2? In theory, we should then massively build joint ventures in Tajikistan, the question is how. We have good examples of joint work with neighboring Uzbekistan, but the fact is that Uzbekistan has a good leverage in the form of Arabian investment funds.

It is quite obvious that in a certain sense, a certain stage of geopolitics in the current schemes is the de facto taking of Tajikistan into the balance sheet. But, if geopolitics and security require costs, then isn’t it actually simpler to take the American approach and, together with China, simply allocate annual subsidies and investment loans, and determine the influx of labor using strict formulas that are fixed through public discussion?

But here, too, there is a counter-problem - Greater Eurasia is still a competitor to Chinese strategies, and where are the limits of competition and where are the parameters of interaction will still need to be determined.

By the way, Tajikistan does not aspire to join the EAEU. But it does not strive largely because, in addition to the preferences provided through the CIS free trade zone, there is also a whole complex of individual interstate agreements in force, which partly duplicates the preferences of the EAEU.

All this makes us think that if we go anew with projects of Eurasian integration, which have both a conceptual right to exist and real geopolitical reasons, then they must be carried out both taking into account current realities and taking into account the accumulated problems and errors in the schemes of the past . All because that very step No. 2 will ultimately be determined by those very interest groups that are better than any layman in all the nuances and gaps of the already created regulatory framework, while introducing simulacra into the public discussion, and the more simulacra, the more and wider gaps and problems.

We have, for example, the Eurasian Bank, the accumulated volume of investments is a little more than $10 billion. ±1 billion dollars per year for such a region. Do we really need a format based on the regulatory framework of the EAEU with its expansion or, with all due respect to the team that created the EAEU on the principle of “through lobbying thorns to the stars,” do we need a new integration format? How will all this fit into Chinese programs, how will all this fit into real trade trends, and not mythologies like “let’s make our way to India - we’ll earn +200 billion” or “the path from China to Europe will bring 100 billion” and others?

Achilles' heel


The Achilles heel of our system is that it works quite effectively for an extremely specific task. There wasn't last year drones, this year there are a lot of drones, a pipe from point A to point B, find ships to export oil, etc.

But when it comes to strategic concepts and multifactor models with a lag of 5–10 years, the system gets stuck in some kind of natural swamp. But it’s not enough to create these models; they also need to be managed promptly.

As a result, geopolitics, not supported by such models and management, even taking into account the effect of leverage, usually comes up against a fork in decisions, in fact, an operational dead end, but lobbying groups make money in any case, even from the inertia of foreign policy combinations.

And in this regard, perhaps the only realistic option is under the new strategy of Greater Eurasia, since they have already decided to go this way, to reform previous integration formats, standards and shake up the existing chains of private interests, including simulacra-narratives on the agenda.

In this context, the proposal of a new format to replace the EAEU in itself can not only revive the discussion, but also set into motion the most diverse layers of the iceberg and mix them up. In our realities, even this would actually be a result.
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  1. +4
    30 November 2023 05: 53
    You live in some kind of world of illusions. They are not bad. Let's face reality. The CIS, they played, abandoned, adopted a lot of not bad legislative acts, but the commonwealth does not work, new members do not strive to join. The CIS is falling apart like an old shirt, the EAEU is a new a toy, more interesting, but the same story, does not break yet, but there is little effectiveness. The next formation of the Union State of Russia and Belarus is also stalling here. And for how long will it last? The Old Man is not eternal. After his departure, the prospects for the existence of this Union are very vague. And most importantly, these formations do not enjoy special authority.
    1. +3
      30 November 2023 07: 39
      China is completing the transport development of Synjian, judging by Google maps, has brought a network of high-speed railways to Urumqi, built a new metro and skyscrapers there, modernized housing, and opened new highways throughout the SUAO. Thus, shocking the surrounding feudal states, it turns out that the 21st century can also come to such a wilderness.
      The stunned local feudal lords realize that their days are numbered. Progress cannot be stopped.
      What can we offer against the modern expansion of communists?
      1. 0
        30 November 2023 11: 46
        Quote: Civil
        Progress cannot be stopped.
        What can we offer against the modern expansion of communists?

        In fact, we could offer something, but with a very good desire and a serious strategy. After all, this “Chinese progress” not only fascinates, but also quite frightens many Asian princes. Russia cannot and will be able to Russify Central Asia, but China can completely; it is capable of organizing “creeping Sinicization”, tightly tying it economically in the first couple of years, and then... (about significant “Chinatowns” are known everywhere and to everyone). This can play into the hands of our country, but without an economic cushion, all such geopolitical “toys” are short-lived and practically unviable.

        To Article:
        It was decided that the construction industry is our most important growth driver, and why not machine tool industry?

        Because machine tool building is one of the most complex, knowledge-intensive and costly industries, but “making a lot of money and quickly” will definitely not work, which means that the sector where this can be done will be in favor... Nevertheless, one cannot help but give Due to the “construction”, it is capable of supporting the economy for some time, but it is dangerous to “flirt”, and you should not see it as a panacea (China has already been burned by this).
        ..the proposal of a new format to replace the EAEU in itself can not only revive the discussion..

        More good and different formats, otherwise there will be nowhere to discuss... winked
        Without a long-term economic strategy, everything will be in vain. We need a unified network of railways in Russia and Central Asia, joint trade and logistics centers, we need serious projects in energy and agriculture, joint industrial ventures, cultural and educational projects, and all this for decades...
        1. 0
          30 November 2023 12: 31
          Quote: Doccor18
          Without a long-term economic strategy, everything will be in vain

          Are you sure it doesn't exist?
          Quote: Doccor18
          We need a unified railway network in Russia and Central Asia,

          what Cool ....
          Quote: Doccor18
          joint trade and logistics centers, we need serious projects in energy and agriculture, joint industrial ventures, cultural and educational projects, and all this for decades...

          Hurray, comrades!!!!! (Stormy applause, turning into a long standing ovation!)
          What if there are no slogans?
    2. +3
      30 November 2023 13: 35
      parusnik Quote: “The Union State of Russia and Belarus is also stalling here... And how long will it last? The Old Man will not last forever. After his departure, the prospects for the existence of this Union are very vague.”
      Dear Alexey! In my opinion, it is correct that Belarus is not part of Russia. Our greedy money bags - Russian "businessmen" will get their hands on everything that interests them and Belarusians will be left with nothing - just like the Russian people. I hope that in Belarus and, in addition to A.G. Lukashenko, there will be a sufficient number of competent patriots who are opponents of joining Russia. For example: the Belarusian MLRS “Polonaise-M” is much cooler than our Smerch and Tornado. But our Ministry of Defense does not buy them - the owners of our factories need to sell, even the worst, but theirs! And this is also beneficial for managers from the Ministry of Defense... No, there should only be a military alliance without any merger with Russia!
      1. +4
        30 November 2023 13: 55
        Belarus is not part of Russia

        What if she came in? The simplest, choice options
        Like Belarus, we celebrate NOVEMBER 7! PARADE! DEMONSTRATION! Day November 7 ---- red day of the calendar!
        There is no holiday on November 4th. Or not?
        They stopped draping the Mausoleum. Or not?
        The monument to Dzerzhinsky has been restored. Or not.
        Yeltsin Center is destroyed. Or not.
        ........
  2. +2
    30 November 2023 07: 58
    remove American and European tentacles

    This has never been possible anywhere in the near abroad (and quite the opposite happened). Maybe Old Man cut off some of his own during (or after) that Maidan. And in our country? It seems that somehow these tentacles began to chop with an ax... but somehow slowly and somehow recourse not really. Very tenacious am am damn tentacles
  3. +9
    30 November 2023 07: 59
    excess free hands heading north

    Crime and terrorism are also heading there, to the North. wink
  4. +3
    30 November 2023 08: 00
    the proposal of a new format to replace the EAEU in itself can not only revive the discussion
    What's the new format? What are you speaking about? This format has not yet been fully developed, and there are no prospects for further development of the EAEU, well, if only it is reconsidered. Who is included there? The Republic of Armenia, the Republic of Belarus, the Republic of Kazakhstan, the Kyrgyz Republic and the Russian Federation. That’s it. China doesn’t care about this alliance with Eiffel towers.
    1. +1
      30 November 2023 10: 12
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      China doesn't care about this alliance from the Eiffel Tower

      And thank God!!!
      1. +1
        30 November 2023 10: 44
        The EAEU is just a competitor to China, especially in the automotive industry, I’m not even talking about the rest.
        1. -1
          30 November 2023 12: 25
          Quote: kor1vet1974
          well, just a competitor to China

          What do you see as the point of creating the EAEU?
          1. 0
            30 November 2023 15: 07
            In short, joint projects, development of new technologies, joint production based on jointly developed technologies and much more, if you only go for trade... yes visa-free regime...
            1. 0
              1 December 2023 08: 04
              Quote: kor1vet1974
              if you only go trade.. yes visa-free regime..

              I see the protection of the domestic market from foreign trade expansion, which in turn leads to the development of our own industry. In other words, the EAEU is Russia’s internal economic and political lever in the post-Soviet space and China has no place in it!
              1. -1
                5 December 2023 17: 38
                Serg65. (Sergey). On Friday at 08:04. New - "... The EAEU is Russia's internal economic and political lever in the post-Soviet space..."
                Ideally - Yes! crying But. to the ideal. like on a cart to the moon. So far, in the visible part, there are options for those kept on the neck of the Russian Federation in the image and likeness of the USSR. bully And if there are tasty treats. then to big business in the Russian Federation. from Topam's salaries. and the “lucky” ones working in these areas. Just like the oil and gas industry once was.
                And if the indigenous citizens of the Russian Federation receive BENEFIT. then the example of Rusnano is more relevant. Work in all these areas with Central Asia is much more effective in China(put in and received) bully . Bogdasarov once called the figures “INVESTMENTS” OF THE RF AND CHINA AND THE RESULTS. It would be better if I didn't know...
                And if we’re talking about “roots” (let’s remember the old Russian fairy tale about a peasant and a bear). then the “roots” are basically indigenous ...Ot blocking entire areas of the economy (construction, trade, etc.). to essentially obvious national banditism (abu bandits) with a Nazi bias. FSB and Ministry of Internal Affairs In general, see TV and media. am Read sources and news...
                And respect, too. at the level of communication, including among top officials. Rakhmon’s “bashing” will never go away. with his complete dependence on finances. receiving HIS most “gifted, hardworking, law-abiding” part of the population accepted and sent out of “home” out of harm’s way. bully They "successfully" increase crime rates. and the most cruel part of it. reaching, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, up to 80% in the control of drug trafficking. am Not counting the costs of medicine for them and their families. study. pensions. importation of neglected diseases into the Russian Federation. All this is at the expense of indigenous Russians and their families. belay The “socially CONCERNED” business modestly receives only the CREAM as INCOME from this “HAPPINESS”. bully
                R.S. Why is the experience of working with guest workers from the Gulf countries not used? .... love ..Probably haven’t grown to their level.. crying
                It's a pity . Maybe hi .
                1. 0
                  6 December 2023 07: 47
                  Quote: boni592807
                  to the ideal. like on a cart to the moon

                  THOSE. is your knowledge based solely on the statements of political bloggers and media personalities? Believe it or not, the situation is much more interesting and larger-scale than the people who earn political capital on the national feelings of Russians are telling you! For example, the food basket of citizens of Central Asia and Kazakhstan is filled +/- 70 percent with products produced in Russia... not China... RUSSIA! I'm not even talking about metal, wood, fuels and lubricants, ceramic products, and this, as you understand, directly affects the number of jobs in Russia...i.e. on the income of not only the “lucky ones”, but also those very indigenous people about whom you “shed tears” so much!
                  1. 0
                    6 December 2023 09: 14
                    How does this fit in with the fact that Uzbekistan imports mainly only cereals from the food industry? And then +-3% of total imports? I cited Uzbekistan as an example, since it is not in the EAEU, i.e. The statistics are straight forward. Where do they, for example, get 70% of the food basket from the Russian Federation? "Parallel import"? wink
                    1. 0
                      6 December 2023 13: 30
                      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                      Uzbekistan imports mainly only cereals. And then + -3% of total imports

                      In 2022, Russian food imports will account for 23,5% of total Uzbek food imports. These are mainly sunflower oil, margarine, vegetable and animal fats, pasta, canned meat and fish, frozen fish, cereals, rice, and healthy food products.
                      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                      Where do they, for example, get 70% of the food basket from the Russian Federation?

                      Well now let's find out what is included in the food basket! Bananas? Avocado? Oranges? Soy sauce?
                      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                      "Parallel import"

                      No need to jerk! wink
                      1. 0
                        6 December 2023 13: 37
                        Russian food imports are how much in dollars according to your data?
                      2. 0
                        6 December 2023 14: 01
                        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                        how much is this in dollars

                        in 22 984 and a few million kopecks! Total imports 4,18 billion.
                      3. 0
                        6 December 2023 14: 31
                        This is +- 3,2% of total imports in 2022. But God bless him, even if we take it as a basis that Tashkent eats 100% of imports alone, then this is by no means 70% of Russian food consumption of the total.
                      4. 0
                        6 December 2023 14: 40
                        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                        This is +- 3,2% of total imports in 2022

                        From total imports of what? Or from all imports including industrial goods, gas, oil refining, etc.?
                        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                        this is by no means 70% of Russian food consumption of the total

                        Again, what do they have in common?
                      5. 0
                        6 December 2023 14: 51
                        You wrote that 70% of the food basket is filled with goods from the Russian Federation. Not even imports, but the entire basket. But we don’t even have 70% of imports, and imports are not all consumption, obviously.
                      6. 0
                        6 December 2023 14: 57
                        laughing Mikhail, are you not into playing cards?
                        What do you think is included in an Uzbek food basket?
                      7. 0
                        6 December 2023 15: 39
                        No, to simply admit that they went too far with 70% and you can step aside and say “yes, not 70%, but “a lot.” No, after all. Well, there are no 70% numbers in this ratio. What does this have to do with the cards. I’m just young I worked with statistics at the Ministry of Finance, so these are the cards wink
  5. +1
    30 November 2023 10: 11
    I read it...it’s interesting, but nothing is clear!
    It feels like going back 40 years! “Comrades, in light of the decision of the Central Committee of the CPSU, the All-Russian Central Council of Trade Unions and the Central Committee of the Komsomol to increase milk yield from one udder to 40 liters, our collective farm needs a lot!
    Mikhail, what did you want to say?
    1. +2
      30 November 2023 11: 16
      And I remembered this
      15 liters of high quality milk daily!
      Can you do 25?
      It's Easy!
      And 35?
      Maybe....
      Well, what about 45??!!
      ..... recourse recourse recourse ....well, it’s just water
    2. +4
      30 November 2023 13: 08
      You don’t live in Russia. How to make material to go between the Scyls and Charybdis. Well, I did it. Read between the lines a little.
      1. 0
        1 December 2023 08: 09
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        How to make material to go between Scyls and Charybdis

        It depends on who owns these Scyls and Charybdis!
        Mikhail, my soul, in your article you perfectly outlined the West’s view of the Central Asian problem, I wish you had the courage to highlight the real situation in this region!
        1. +1
          1 December 2023 12: 37
          I'll try to gain courage hi
          1. 0
            1 December 2023 14: 57
            I would be very pleased to read your version of what is happening! hi
            1. 0
              1 December 2023 15: 22
              I am aware that you know the region well hi
              But some things are actually extremely “difficult” to describe.
              1. 0
                4 December 2023 08: 08
                Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                Some things are actually extremely “difficult” to describe.

                I don’t see any difficulty in describing processes whose data is publicly available! hi
  6. +4
    30 November 2023 15: 22
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    You don’t live in Russia. How to make material to go between the Scyls and Charybdis. Well, I did it. Read between the lines a little.


    If you read between the lines, you get the ischial part of the body.
    1. +1
      30 November 2023 20: 05
      I wanted to say something, but didn’t know how recourse I thought and didn't come up with it request
      Quote: S.Z.
      .... If you read between the lines, you get the ischial part of the body.

      Lobbies are like that, lobbies are like that.....what disgusting! Fuck them. And everyone is against Russia and at the expense of Russia
      1. 0
        1 December 2023 08: 10
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Lobbies like this, lobbies like this

        It depends on who is considered a lobbyist!
        1. 0
          1 December 2023 14: 13
          I don’t have that kind of knowledge about who to count, but the author seems to have it. You hear, there is constant talk about the struggle between the Kremlin towers.
          1. 0
            1 December 2023 14: 55
            Quote: Reptiloid
            . You hear, there is constant talk about the struggle between the Kremlin towers.

            I'm used to believing facts, not gossip and speculation! hi
            1. -1
              1 December 2023 20: 43
              The results of the activities of these towers are visible to the naked eye. What kind of laws, instructions were issued in the Russian Federation and how were they implemented.... And the latest scandal with manager Laletina... It’s impossible to imagine.
              1. -1
                2 December 2023 11: 04
                who are considered lobbyists

                You can count anyone. Look, Sergey hi This is the latest scandal. It turns out that what depends on low social responsibility? What is decided depending on her disgusting handbags? In my understanding ---- this is generally beyond everything. And if we assume that she has assistants and that she is not alone am am such.
                1. +1
                  4 December 2023 08: 05
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  You can count anyone

                  Dmitry, keep it simple! They always stole...and under the Tsar Father, and under War Communism, and under the great Stalin.....and under the Dark One, and after him, they will steal too! How do Laletina's bribes reveal your version about the imaginary Kremlin towers?
                  1. 0
                    4 December 2023 08: 42
                    Greetings, Sergey! wink Here, in general, it’s either who is against whom, or everyone is for himself.... And a scandal ----- this means that they must give bribes to some low social figure to fulfill defense orders. That is, she, therefore, manages it, allows it or not. Is it the lobby or the towers, it’s like about a gopher, you don’t see it, but it’s there.
                    Do you think there are no towers, wink no lobbyists?
                    1. +1
                      4 December 2023 09: 06
                      hi Have a nice one you too!
                      Once again, there were always lobbyists! The question is: is there a fight against lobbying? Arrests of high-ranking managers, basements filled with money, removal of generals from service, all this indicates that the struggle is underway! I understand that many people want this struggle to become an avalanche-like process, but this process also has a dark side, and we have already gone through this in our history!
                      Well, about the towers, every tower should have a name, right? If one tower is named after GDP, what name does the second tower have?
                      Speaking of lobbying, the author of the article also lobbies someone’s interests, have you thought about this?
                      1. 0
                        4 December 2023 10: 14
                        Quote: Serg65
                        hi .... Speaking of lobbying, the author of the article also lobbies someone’s interests, have you thought about this?

                        Of course, he knows more specifically about other lobbyists than we do, which is why he writes about Scylla and Charybdis.
                        the fight is on

                        So slow. Too slow. And if the limited time does not allow it to be completed, then everything will quickly go back to hell. Because the waiters are here to stay
                      2. 0
                        4 December 2023 10: 43
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        he knows more specifically about other lobbyists

                        Have you yourself tried to figure out these labyrinths, so to speak, to create your own personal opinion? Moreover, there is a lot of information on this subject that is freely available! Talking about Scylla and Charybdis is just a shadow over the fence, it all depends on whose point of view you want to convey to the population!
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        the waiters are here to stay

                        smile Waiting, they are different and even under different flags... Beware of the Danaans who bring gifts!
                      3. +1
                        4 December 2023 17: 55
                        figure out the mazes

                        Sometimes it seems like it works out wink but somehow it doesn’t always work out with information.... wink worry about all current affairs.
  7. 0
    30 November 2023 17: 21
    All this pandering to the development of Islamists and other Hindus will end badly. If the USSR spent less on them, there would be fewer problems.
  8. +1
    30 November 2023 20: 13
    But when it comes to strategic concepts and multifactor models with a lag of 5–10 years, the system gets stuck in some kind of natural swamp. But it’s not enough to create these models; they also need to be managed promptly.

    As a result, geopolitics, not supported by such models and management, even taking into account the effect of leverage, usually comes up against a fork in decisions, in fact, an operational dead end, but lobbying groups make money in any case, even from the inertia of foreign policy combinations.
    Everything seems to be correct, but there is no strategy and that says it all (basis + superstructure). And so certain interest groups always make money with different options...
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  9. 0
    30 November 2023 20: 33
    Quote: Doccor18
    In fact, we could offer something, but with a very good desire and a serious strategy.

    To offer something, you first need to reproduce it in the country. Otherwise, we like to immediately start exploring the expanses of space.
  10. 0
    30 November 2023 23: 19
    Quote: WFP-1
    about strategic concepts and multifactor models with a lag of 5–10 years, the system gets stuck in some kind of natural swamp. But it’s not enough to create these models.
    ....there is no strategy...

    This is not some kind of swamp, but a capitalist one, since the interests of large owners (owners of factories, newspapers, and steamships do not coincide with the interests and intentions of the state) or may even be opposite.
    This is exactly the same as with ideology. Of course, there is an ideology of the richest class that our state follows, but if you put it into words, it will turn out to be cannibalistic, so you have to lie that there is no ideology at all.
    1. +2
      1 December 2023 19: 06
      I agree, especially about ideology! If everything is simplified to the extreme, then there is a system in which there is a number of multidirectional vectors of power, each of which is focused on satisfying a certain group of interests, some of which are state (probably) ...
      1. 0
        1 December 2023 20: 52
        Regarding ideology, it would be necessary to add recourse Just as it is unacceptable to announce the current ideology out loud, it is also impossible to recognize the socialist ideology, but one must somehow maneuver so as not to stumble upon any of them, as the Author indicated
        between Scylla and Charybdis

        We look forward to the next articles.
  11. 0
    1 December 2023 00: 32
    Baamoni Khudo, Khudo hafiz, guguchur, Inzha biyo, I still remember. And I was in Tajikistan for two weeks in 1988.