Ukrainian MTR landing on the left bank of the Dnieper. Another offensive or a regular PR campaign

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Ukrainian MTR landing on the left bank of the Dnieper. Another offensive or a regular PR campaign

Interesting times: weekends and Mondays. Information vacuum and the ability to throw in any misinformation. The opportunity to “shuffle the deck” and beautifully throw in a topic for discussion... Change the concepts and that’s it. It is enough to call the seizure of any house in a populated area a springboard, and the job is done. An information boom is guaranteed.

A couple of days ago, this was the news that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were training to overcome water obstacles on German ferries. Marines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces roll out under the cameras on some river from bank to bank. Very beautiful for impressionable people. Straight from childhood. The village ferry, where grandfather Vasya transported people back and forth.



Indeed, over the last week there has been an activation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the left bank of the Dnieper. Numerous attempts to land troops, attempts to gain a foothold in some areas. It's all there. Moreover, the Ukrainians actually throw “suicide bombers,” well-motivated and trained special forces, into battle. According to some reports, also using “combat chemistry”.

For what? The question is complex. Ukrainian strategy today is generally distinguished by its intricacy. The feeling is that the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are developing an offensive operation of the classical type, when there is the necessary advantage in manpower, weapons, and equipment. And they give the order to attack, forgetting that there is no such advantage, and preparations for the offensive have not been carried out.

How beautifully everything was planned... The Special Forces are landing on the left bank of the Dnieper. Russian units and formations, completely unprepared to fight the GUR special forces, flee in panic, abandoning their weapons and equipment. Ukrainian MTR in the style of the German regiment "Brandenburg-800" model 1941 using captured equipment capture Tokmak...

The Russians, in a panic, remove formations from the Zaporozhye direction and transfer them to protect Tokmak, but do not have time to organize a defense... The Ukrainian Armed Forces formations, taking advantage of the weakening of the Zaporozhye front, begin a “counter-offensive”. That's all! Hurray, the Ukrainians won the 2023 campaign! Moscow humbly asks Kyiv for negotiations and accepts all Zelensky’s conditions.

Oh, these tales. Oh, these storytellers ...

For those who understand at least a little about tactics, I will tell you one well-known truth. During its now failed and forgotten counter-offensive, the Ukrainian Armed Forces never reached the first line of defense of the Russian army. Exactly the same thing happened in this case.

An attempt at a full-fledged offensive in Ukrainian


I almost never wrote about which units showed themselves to be the most heroic. Precisely because I consider everyone who is now at the front to be heroes. It’s just that some are visible, while others do their job the way they recently did their job in civilian life. Work is work. And it must be done well. Today I decided to break this rule.

Ordinary Russian soldiers and officers thwarted the Ukrainian offensive plan. Exclusively for his heroism. The trained soldiers of the Ukrainian Special Forces ran into not frightened “mobs,” but seasoned warriors who simply do not know how to retreat. But they can find and destroy the enemy in any place and in any quantity.

These are fighters and commanders of the 70th Motorized Rifle Division. These are soldiers of the 177th separate marine regiment and the 810th separate marine brigade. These are soldiers of the 126th separate coast guard brigade. These are the gods of war from the 8th artillery regiment. Well, the 127th separate reconnaissance brigade.

Remember what I wrote above about the Ukrainian offensive plan in this direction? Perhaps some took this as mockery of the Ukrainian headquarters, but the fact that the offensive was really planned was proven by the actions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. If before these events we observed only local clashes on some islands, then after the start of the offensive it became quite “hot”.

The enemy used almost all the means at his disposal. I will quote the words of one of the participants in repelling the attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. This is a quote from the Telegram channel. The words are not addressed to me. More precisely, this is correspondence between SVO participants from different directions:

“It’s really really hard here, the German art just won’t shut up, everything is flying, FPV, resets, Tanks, cassette..."

I have written several times that the resources of airborne units are very limited by the ability to deliver heavy weapons. The Ukrainian Armed Forces used German pontoons, which can work both as part of bridges and as independent boats for delivering personnel to the coast. These pontoons are not capable of throwing tanks and heavy infantry fighting vehicles across the river.

Further. To launch a real attack on our defense line, it is necessary to create a bridgehead! This is at least 15–20 km of coastline and 10–15 km in depth of our defense. The bridgehead should become a place where heavy artillery, tanks and other equipment will be transferred. I didn’t even see this in perspective. Strikes at various points, attempts to capture individual objects, etc.

What are Ukrainians doing? In principle, this is what SOF should do. The landing of the DRGs and their work precisely as sabotage groups. No more. It doesn't matter whether they landed successfully or not. They have no way back. They will be destroyed in any case. PR war. Capture - photo - drape, capture - photo - drape, attack - death or captivity...

If by some miracle (I simply cannot find another definition) these DRGs unite into some more or less serious unit and try to create a bridgehead, they will simply be destroyed by our artillery and aviation...

Why a miracle? Yes, simply because for this all Russian soldiers and officers must simply fall asleep. Well, at least turn away from the Dnieper and the DRG landing sites...

So why does the Ukrainian Armed Forces need this?


The futility of such an offensive does not remove the question of why the Ukrainian Armed Forces send truly trained fighters to obvious death? Why so much noise from any attack that looks more or less like a victory? I agree that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are winning every day in the media. The instant transformation of “peremog” into “zrada” no longer surprises even those who are not at all interested in SVO.

In my opinion, there are two more or less logical explanations for this. Two simply because I do not consider Ukrainian officers and generals to be savages who are not familiar with tactics and strategy. There are many competent and talented commanders and staff officers who graduated from higher educational institutions not only in Ukraine, but also in Russia and other countries of the world. Moreover, according to the still Soviet method.

So, the first version.

Saving your own connections from destruction! Paradox? No, it's a subtle calculation. Where did the enemy suffer the most significant losses during the “counterattack”? The Ukrainians stuck their horns primarily in the Zaporozhye direction.

And it was there that the most significant losses were suffered. The brigades participating in this offensive today are a rather pathetic sight and require almost all of them to be re-equipped. From personnel to equipment and weapons. Russian formations continue to smash the Ukrainians without much loss.

And what should the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do?

Organize a false attack! Yes, sacrifice some units. But to force the commander of the Russian sector to transfer reserves to help repulse the landing on the left bank of the Dnieper. And ideally, force the transfer of some units from the LBS!..

I understand that the version looks quite cruel towards Ukrainian soldiers. How is it possible to throw some to death in order to save others? Alas, the army is not an institution for noble maidens. Yes, such operations are carried out by almost everyone. Reconnaissance in force does not surprise anyone. Or a fighter who remains in position to cover the unit’s retreat. It’s not just one fighter who “remains” here, but a unit.

This version is also supported by the way the topic of the landing is promoted in the Ukrainian and world media. Attentive readers have already noticed that the landing operation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has already pushed the embarrassment of the “counter-offensive” from the front pages of the Ukrainian media. There is a special conversation about global media. The war between Israel and Palestine buried the Ukrainian theme there.

The second version is much more prosaic.

From the series “You’re still a strong old man, Rosenbohm” (c). Kiev is well aware that the next Arab-Israeli war is becoming protracted. In this case, no matter how much the Americans promise, supplies will be reduced. Moreover, these cuts will affect not so much military supplies as humanitarian ones. Roughly speaking, the United States will begin to reduce the feeding trough for Ukraine.

This is a simple way to remind yourself and beg for another handout. The intensification of hostilities on the left bank is interpreted by Ukrainian politicians and the media as a readiness to continue the active phase, no matter what. There are many such statements. Although everyone understands perfectly well that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are completely unprepared for active operations in winter. And all activity will soon be reduced to shelling of border villages and outposts.

Briefly about the results


The hype in the press is another operation of the Ukrainian special services, which was developed jointly with curators from MI6 and the CIA. That is why not only Ukrainian resources are involved in it, but also pseudo-Russian ones. And even pro-Russian foreign sites, information on which comes from Western sources, among others.

I have deep respect for war correspondents and bloggers. I think that they are doing great and important work. But... Sometimes they, to put it mildly, get carried away. I will not list those who posted such information. Most have already deleted the fake. But I ask you to be more attentive to messages even from seemingly your own sources. I once read a good phrase on the wall of one office:

“Don’t say everything you know, but know everything you say.”

I was surprised to discover that fakes launched by Ukrainians are rebroadcast by some respected Internet channels. And already from them "news" is scattered across the Internet. It is clear that sensations are needed to grow the number of subscribers. But sensation and sensation are different. The news I reviewed today is from this category.

And upon arrival...

A deception is just that: a deception. As long as the weather allows for activity, the Ukrainians will imitate activity and burn ammunition. That is, another two or three weeks and...

Our artillerymen, tank crews, airborne forces and sappers will have the opportunity to distinguish themselves... The rest just keep their eyes open and do their job without rush jobs and any unforeseen introductions.

Landing operations of such a scale as crossing the Dnieper, in the conditions that have developed today, are an impossible task for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

No matter how mad the Ukrofashists are, Victory will still be ours...
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  1. +2
    27 October 2023 04: 45
    What the Ukrainian Armed Forces are doing now, in principle, cannot achieve the desired result: there is no necessary force. I agree with the author.
    1. -1
      27 October 2023 04: 57
      Ukrainian strategy today is generally distinguished by its intricacy.
      The weakness of the brain is taking its toll...
      Victory will still be ours...

      I agree with the author one hundred percent!
      1. 0
        27 October 2023 08: 38
        LBS has been stable for a year now...
    2. +13
      27 October 2023 07: 53
      That's all true, but the timing confuses me. The entrenched Banderaites have been on our shores for a long time. And for some reason it’s impossible to knock them out. Is that bad.
      1. AAK
        -2
        27 October 2023 14: 00
        The author mentioned 4 distinguished units, half of them being the 810th Infantry Brigade and the 126th Guards. The coastal defense brigade (and not the coast guard, as the author mentioned) is a Crimean formation, but where is our Arbat court and ceremonial guard, who still haven’t washed their pants after Kharkov-Izyum-Barvenkovo-Kupyansk in 2022?
  2. +18
    27 October 2023 05: 40
    The brigades participating in this offensive today are a rather pathetic sight and require almost all of them to be re-equipped. From personnel to equipment and weapons. Russian formations continue to smash the Ukrainians without much loss.


    It’s difficult to understand where the author got such confidence about the loss ratio?
    It seems that well-known bloggers always write that Avdeevka, Kleshcheevka, and counterattacks in the Zaporozhye steppes are “not cheap” for our army. Cluster munitions and competent enemy artillery are a weighty argument. The familiar “numbered” units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are maneuvering in reports and are still capable of strengthening the front in crisis areas.
    1. -8
      27 October 2023 15: 21
      Well-known bloggers also sometimes engage in outright shooting. I, of course, do not urge you not to believe them, but sometimes you need to think for yourself and compare information.
    2. Uno
      +2
      28 October 2023 19: 32
      It seems like this is not your first day on the site. He has proven his “authority” more than once and he does not have any information (or even more so analytical abilities) - it is outdated, with dubious prospects, etc.. He writes what they pay money for. He is a prominent representative of hat throwers and is not interested in the rest)
  3. +6
    27 October 2023 06: 00
    I agree with the first version, a distraction, support for the theory about the possibility of carrying out a major landing operation.
    The second version became relevant only after October 7, and not immediately, but the DRG crossings began from the moment we compiled Kherson.
    And the author embellished the pitiful spectacle.
  4. +7
    27 October 2023 06: 03
    Another portion of healthy optimism from Staver. Avdeevka should be sorted out. The entire territory of the DPR should be liberated. Yes, so that Slavyansk and Kramatorsk remain almost intact.
    1. +7
      27 October 2023 06: 32
      Yeah..If only..Kiev would be taken..Warsaw would be..
      Would..
    2. +7
      27 October 2023 18: 29
      A man works, writes. About what? Well, about uplifting things. Personally, having seen enough of political workers in my life and myself once being one through the Komsomol, I don’t believe them. It’s just work to order.
  5. -5
    27 October 2023 06: 14
    Ukrainian MTR landing on the left bank of the Dnieper. Another offensive or a regular PR campaign
    Kyiv's suicidal (for l/s) attempts to show sponsors that everything is going according to plan. But it doesn’t go at all according to plan, and even contrary to plan. But with enviable tenacity they continue to try to fulfill the assigned tasks.
  6. Eug
    +7
    27 October 2023 06: 19
    The method of indirect influence - this is how it was explained to us at the military department. But certainly with the readiness to quickly expand the bridgehead in the event and in the place of designated success, i.e. reconnaissance in force with everything that goes with it. Usually carried out when there is a lack of information about the enemy. Something like this...
    1. -5
      27 October 2023 15: 22
      Um, it’s like the Dnieper, not Ingulets. And the accumulation of enemy forces is detected in advance by drones and satellites. Plus constant fire exposure.
  7. +7
    27 October 2023 06: 20
    However, the guys from our city who are located in this direction write that small groups of AFU have established themselves on our shore
    1. -11
      27 October 2023 15: 23
      Oh, everything is gone, everything is gone, boss! The plaster is removed and the client leaves.
  8. +20
    27 October 2023 06: 34
    But for some reason this article reminded me of an example of Soviet propaganda about stupid fascists. With all the consequences... request
    1. -11
      27 October 2023 15: 24
      Why do readers resemble outright alarmists and gozmans?
      1. +6
        27 October 2023 17: 07
        You are on another site, you made a mistake and you will not be interested here. People here know how to think.
        1. -8
          27 October 2023 19: 27
          Why haven’t thinking people taken Kyiv, Kharkov, Warsaw yet? Maybe people don’t think, but stupidly criticize from the couch?
          1. +2
            29 October 2023 15: 31
            Because those in leadership don’t think, both at the moment and in the future Yes
  9. +2
    27 October 2023 07: 54
    I remember the same cheerful statements from bloggers and journalists about Seversky Donets. “The Ukrainian Armed Forces on our shores are troops of tiktokers! This is complete nonsense, because never!” I hope our military leadership knows what they are doing this time.
    1. -11
      27 October 2023 14: 38
      Comparing the Seversky Donets with the Dnieper is very smart. In terms of your mental development, you are not far from bloggers.
  10. +9
    27 October 2023 07: 59
    As the author wrote, everything was like this last year, when our troops retreated from Kherson and Kupyansk. Ukrainians quietly seized a bridgehead and then built on their success. So, everything is ahead. Shoigu and his company are not good friends with maps, although it seems to be the chairman of the geographical society
    1. -8
      27 October 2023 14: 39
      What bridgehead did the Sumerians capture?
  11. +5
    27 October 2023 08: 11
    These are fighters and commanders of the 70th Motorized Rifle Division. These are soldiers of the 177th separate marine regiment and the 810th separate marine brigade. These are soldiers of the 126th separate coast guard brigade. These are the gods of war from the 8th artillery regiment. Well, the 127th separate reconnaissance brigade.


    Where is Kadyrov on this list and why does he end up with the benefits?
  12. +6
    27 October 2023 08: 35
    Victory will still be ours..
    Author, what will happen after the Victory? Will sanctions be lifted, will everyone recognize the annexed territories, Russia, Ukraine, will they pay reparations? Describe the bright future after the Victory.
    1. -8
      27 October 2023 14: 39
      I've never heard of a winner paying reparations.
    2. -3
      27 October 2023 15: 42
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      Describe the bright future after the Victory.

      After the victory over Ukraine, Russia will begin to purchase not French Schneider converters for 30 rubles and not Japanese Omron for 000 rubles, but Chinese analogues for 80 rubles. Although these Schneiders and Omrons were produced in China, they were sold in Russia through a French and Japanese intermediary just before the start of the Great Patriotic War and throughout 000.
  13. +8
    27 October 2023 08: 37
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Kyiv's suicidal (for l/s) attempts to show sponsors that everything is going according to plan

    I will add your saying to the collection of unsuccessful and untruthful propaganda cliches, along with “the West is starting to get tired of Ukraine”, “Zelensky’s gesture of despair”, “they are mobilizing everyone” and so on............
    1. -10
      27 October 2023 15: 25
      Rather yours, as an example of Kyiv propaganda. After all, in fact, you are no different from kvass-patriots.
  14. -15
    27 October 2023 08: 58
    They've already lost.
    Let the amers take back their weapons from Ukraine.
    The US lost and must accept it as a given. And let them bow to the Kremlin.
  15. -15
    27 October 2023 09: 01
    Russia has microwave weapons.
    Can be roasted like boars before salting.
    1. +4
      27 October 2023 14: 11
      Russia has microwave weapons
      Exactly, how we all forgot about the microwave! We sent all the microwaves from the kitchens to the front, and now they are burning and frying boars at the front. There is already an order to the population to prepare refrigerators for transfer to the front, we will freeze the conflict. fellow lol
      The only plus so far is from me; I haven’t been so happy about a sound idea for a long time. laughing
  16. +14
    27 October 2023 09: 04
    It is constantly found in the media that Ukrainians are fools, they work for the information component, they overwhelm them with manpower, etc.
    But, however, the front line has been static for a year now, our troops cannot dislodge troops from our shore and are suffering losses there. The enemy's DRGs carry out forays, take prisoners, a typical example is Major Tomov, who was written about in TG channels. About a month ago, during the intensification of landing operations, prisoners were once again captured on our shore.
    These facts show that the enemy, although he suffers losses, can nevertheless be transported back and forth, and therefore transports armored personnel, reserves, and evacuates the wounded. Our guys die in battles on the islands, and often we cannot evacuate the bodies of fallen soldiers. So the situation is far from victorious.
    According to media reports, it is difficult to get a complete picture, but the fact that the enemy is actively operating on the front forces us to keep reserves, artillery and other firepower there that could be used in another direction. Consequently, the enemy is achieving certain goals.
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    2. -8
      27 October 2023 14: 42
      It is strange not to distinguish propaganda from military operations. There is propaganda on both sides. Moreover, the Sumerian is more assertive. And no one doubts success there. And we have only whistleblowers. It's like they're competing for the Pulitzer.
  17. +4
    27 October 2023 09: 09
    In the described situation, in theory, the Russian Federation should attack weakened enemy units.
    1. -9
      27 October 2023 14: 43
      This is how it goes where the parts are weakened.
  18. BAI
    +6
    27 October 2023 09: 22
    During its now failed and forgotten counter-offensive, the Ukrainian Armed Forces never reached the first line of defense of the Russian army.

    The Khokhly conquered 137 square miles. True, they lost 242 (British intelligence data in English units). So they reached the defense line and broke through in some places. Videos of our captured trenches with our dead soldiers confirm this
    1. -7
      27 October 2023 14: 43
      So we squeezed it out. And even more.
  19. +1
    27 October 2023 09: 31
    IMHO, once on a program with Goblin, a military historian expressed and proved the idea of ​​​​"unsuccessful" German attacks on the Republic of Ingushetia in WW1. That these local offensives had the goal of preempting and disrupting the strategic offensives of the large Russian army. And they achieved this goal.

    The anology is alarming.
  20. +6
    27 October 2023 11: 31
    From the first lines I recognize the author. Every day we hear about unsuccessful attempts by the Ukrainian Armed Forces to gain a foothold in one sector or another and the complete failure of the counter-offensive. Well, where is our progress then? I was especially pleased with the news about several Ukrainian Armed Forces aircraft that were shot down in one day! Where do these "flyers" come from? Listen to the news: there are no reserves, no aviation, no motivation, weapons are running out.
    Oh, these fairy tales.
    Oh, these storytellers ...
    I rated the article 2 out of 5.
    1. -9
      27 October 2023 14: 44
      Dear critic! Do you get information from the front line? Or from Upper Lars? It's clearer from there.
  21. -8
    27 October 2023 11: 41
    The article is timely and correct. I completely agree with the Author, otherwise a certain “analyst” Marzhetsky described this activity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine almost as a new “offensive”, he read it and smiled.
  22. +4
    27 October 2023 11: 42
    There is nothing good for us in the Ukro bridgeheads. They are entrenched there, engaged in reconnaissance, target designation, and provocations. Considering that they do not take care of their soldiers, a meat landing on these bridgeheads with a subsequent offensive is possible. The enemy's bridgeheads must be eliminated, not tolerated.
    1. -8
      27 October 2023 14: 45
      Are our bridgeheads on the Seversky Donets and Oskol good for the Sumerians? And these rivers are much smaller than the Dnieper.
  23. +3
    27 October 2023 11: 44
    From a military point of view, everything is correct. If such a landing is possible, then it must be carried out. Another thing is why aren’t we doing the same? After all, Kherson is our city and somehow it needs to be returned back. Carrying out an operation to bypass the river is very expensive and many times more people can be lost. So, paradoxically, it sounds like respect to the enemy.
    1. -8
      27 October 2023 14: 46
      Because ours, unlike them, are stupidly not ready to send people to certain death just to portray vigorous activity.
      1. +4
        27 October 2023 16: 59
        Quote: Nickelium
        Because ours, unlike them, are stupidly not ready to send people to certain death just to portray vigorous activity.

        Tell this to Muradov.
        1. -6
          27 October 2023 19: 30
          What does Muradov command now? And why did Wagner’s smart commanders waste 20 thousand for the regional center? I don’t argue that there are stupid generals, but ours are learning. Including your own mistakes.
          1. 0
            27 October 2023 20: 18
            Well, the musicians lost 20 thousand not only for Bakhmut-Artyomovsk, but also for Soledar. Yes, it seems, for other small items as well. there were losses.
            1. -3
              27 October 2023 20: 41
              So Soledar is even smaller than Bakhmut. And for Popasnaya these geniuses put another 10 grand.
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  24. -2
    27 October 2023 18: 16
    It is impossible to transfer large forces across the Dnieper. Apparently there is nowhere to put the soldiers
  25. +4
    27 October 2023 20: 00
    How beautifully everything was planned... The Special Forces are landing on the left bank of the Dnieper. Russian units and formations, completely unprepared to fight the GUR special forces, flee in panic, abandoning their weapons and equipment. Ukrainian MTR in the style of the German regiment "Brandenburg-800" model 1941 using captured equipment capture Tokmak...

    The Russians, in a panic, remove formations from the Zaporozhye direction and transfer them to protect Tokmak, but do not have time to organize a defense... The Ukrainian Armed Forces formations, taking advantage of the weakening of the Zaporozhye front, begin a “counter-offensive”. That's all! Hurray, the Ukrainians won the 2023 campaign! Moscow humbly asks Kyiv for negotiations and accepts all Zelensky’s conditions.
    The author painted such an epic picture that a quote from his article is quite applicable to him:
    Oh, these tales. Oh, these storytellers ...
    And in this part too:
    For those who understand at least a little about tactics, I will tell you one well-known truth. During its now failed and forgotten counter-offensive, the Ukrainian Armed Forces never reached the first line of defense of the Russian army.
    winked
  26. +2
    27 October 2023 20: 14
    Firstly:
    During its now failed and forgotten counter-offensive, the Ukrainian Armed Forces never reached the first line of defense of the Russian army.
    - it is not true. They reached the first line of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but were unable to break through it.
    Secondly: although attempts to advance on Crimea through the Dnieper are unlikely, these Ukrainian Armed Forces landing forces drink a lot of blood. The Ukrainian Armed Forces were never knocked out from under the Antonovsky Bridge, although this is not of strategic importance. In short, the troops need to be on their guard.
  27. -3
    28 October 2023 00: 37
    Quote: Stas157
    For some reason I can't get them out.

    Maybe it’s not working out, but in the meantime there are other, more important tasks? And if necessary, they can simply be rolled out with a roller? In the meantime, let them sit there like mice
  28. +1
    28 October 2023 13: 57
    Ukrainian MTR landing on the left bank of the Dnieper. Another offensive or a regular PR campaign
    The usual, but not a PR campaign, but a tactic ("creeping") of gradually seizing a bridgehead to ensure the crossing of the river in this area by larger forces. Some of his friends call the author of the article a colonel, which makes it all the more strange that he writes such naive things. bully