Well, now let's bang and the whole world will turn to dust?

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Well, now let's bang and the whole world will turn to dust?

The State Duma in the first reading approved a bill to revoke ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. 423 deputies voted unanimously for the adoption of the document.

What is the meaning of this Treaty and what does refusal to ratify it mean, it is worth thinking about by studying history since the adoption of this document.



You need to understand that there were two agreements


The first was called the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. weapons in the atmosphere, outer space and under water,” and it was also called the “Moscow Treaty” after the place of signing. This document was signed on August 5, 1963 in Moscow.

The parties to the agreement, that is, the initiators, were the USSR, the USA and Great Britain. The treaty came into force on October 10, 1963 and was open for signature by other countries on August 8, 1963 in Moscow, Washington and London. Currently, 131 states are parties to the Treaty.

It should be noted here that signing the Treaty is only half the battle; the most important documents are subject to mandatory ratification, that is, approval at the highest legislative and executive level in the signatory state.

That is, an authorized person from the state (President, Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs) signs the document. But in order for the Treaty to enter into force, parliamentary approval is required into law.

Parliament, as a representative of the electorate, votes for ratification of the treaty and thereby confirms that the state undertakes to comply with the provisions of this Treaty. The fact of ratification is formalized by a special document called an instrument of ratification. The parties either exchange instruments of ratification or, in the case of a large number of parties, deposit the instruments of ratification with the depositary, which may be one of the signatories or a third party.

In the Moscow Treaty, the USSR, USA and Great Britain became depositaries. Countries acceding to the Treaty transferred their instruments of ratification to Moscow, Washington or London, respectively.

There is another tricky point here. Since accession to a treaty of this type is a two-stage process, naturally, there may be countries that have signed but not ratified it. So, something like “We are for everything good against everything bad, but...”.

The Moscow Treaty, for example, was not signed by China, France, both Koreas and Israel. And thus, in principle, the Treaty was somewhat defective, since what was the point of the fact that some of the countries that initially aspired to possess nuclear weapons did not even plan to sign it?

And that’s when the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty came into play - a multilateral international treaty aimed at banning the test explosions of nuclear weapons and any other nuclear explosions for civilian or military purposes anywhere.

And the Treaty was no longer initiated by individual countries; the Treaty was adopted by the 50th session of the UN General Assembly on September 10, 1996 and opened for signature on September 24, 1996.


This Treaty was a much more thoughtful document, since one of its Annexes clearly defined a list of 44 countries that could afford nuclear weapons and atomic energy.

It is clear that if such an Agreement is signed by Eritrea or Vanuatu, the world will be neither hot nor cold from this. Support and approval, and nothing more. So, for 2023, the Treaty was signed by 187 states and ratified by 178 of them.

But the question is not who signed, but in who not signed!

It was stated above that one of the conditions for the entry into force of the Treaty is the mandatory signing and mandatory ratification of the Treaty by each of the 44 countries listed in Appendix No. 2.

The list was not taken out of thin air; the list of 44 countries was compiled by the IAEA, and the criterion for inclusion in the list was the presence of operating nuclear power reactors on the territory of these countries at the time the Treaty was drawn up.

That is, everything is transparent: if there is a nuclear reactor, there is an opportunity to obtain weapons-grade plutonium, which means, theoretically, it is possible to create nuclear weapons. In fact, many countries did just that.


So, out of 44 countries that had nuclear energy at the time of the Treaty’s creation, only three did not sign: India, Pakistan and North Korea. That is, the first requirement for the Treaty to enter into force was not met. 41 out of 44 states signed.

Further. Next we have ratification. And even fewer ratified the Treaty: 36 out of 44 countries. Those who have not signed have also joined USA, China, Israel, Iran and Egypt.

The UN did not seem to give up, and on December 6, 2006, the General Assembly adopted a resolution emphasizing the need for the speedy signing and ratification of the Treaty. 172 countries voted for the resolution, two voted against: DPRK and USA.

Basically a curtain. The Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty did not enter into force, which means it remained practically a fiction. No, many countries that still complied with the terms of the previous Treaty did not carry out tests. Including the USA. No tests have been carried out there since 1992. They did the same in Russia. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a gentleman’s agreement or conscientious execution of the Moscow Treaty, the important thing is that the parties complied with the terms of the Treaty, which, in fact, makes it such.

Here we will leave aside the US policy regarding the Treaty; they did not hide the fact that they would not ratify it.

What could Russia gain from leaving the CTBT Treaty?


It turns out that it is not possible to revoke the signature, but you can revoke the instrument of ratification. Russia will remain a signatory to the Treaty, but in essence, a party to the treaty that has not entered into force. It's like operations with zero. The result will still be zero, multiply zero or multiply by zero.

Between 1949 and 1990, the Soviet Union conducted 715 nuclear tests, using 969 nuclear devices. Separately, it is worth saying that of this number, 124 tests were carried out for peaceful purposes.

Most of the tests in the USSR took place at the Semipalatinsk nuclear test site (2nd State Central Research Test Site, 2nd State Central Scientific Research Institute) and at the nuclear test site on the Novaya Zemlya archipelago (State Central Test Site No. 6, or 6th GPC of the USSR Ministry of Defense).

On October 30, 1961, the most powerful hydrogen bomb in history, the 6-megaton Tsar Bomba, was exploded at test site No. 58 on Novaya Zemlya.


The seismic wave resulting from the explosion circled the globe three times, and the sound wave reached Dikson Island at a distance of about 800 kilometers from the point where the bomb was detonated.

Well, at the Semipalatinsk test site on October 11, 1961, an underground nuclear explosion was carried out for the first time.


It must be said that when two years later, in October 1963, the aforementioned Moscow Treaty “On the Prohibition of Tests of Nuclear Weapons in the Atmosphere, Outer Space and Under Water” came into force, it left such a loophole as underground testing. However, one of his demands was the following: radioactive fallout after a nuclear explosion in the bowels of the earth was not allowed outside the state that carried out the tests.

And the Semipalatinsk test site had a lot of work to do. From 1949 to 1989, 468 nuclear tests were carried out there, in which 616 nuclear and thermonuclear devices were detonated, including:
- 125 atmospheric (26 ground, 91 air, 8 high-altitude);
- 343 underground (215 in adits and 128 in wells).

The Semipalatinsk test site was closed on August 29, 1991, and this is where the story of the “two” ended.

Russia only has a test site left on Novaya Zemlya.


On February 27, 1992, the President of the Russian Federation signed Decree No. 194 “On the test site on Novaya Zemlya.” By this decree, it was designated as the Central Test Site of the Russian Federation (CP RF), and a residential and scientific center of the archipelago was formed in the village of Belushya Guba.

But even in Soviet times, tests were carried out on Novaya Zemlya. From September 21, 1955 to October 24, 1990, 132 nuclear explosions were carried out:
- 87 atmospheric (including 84 air);
- 1 ground;
- 2 surface;
- 3 underwater;
- 42 underground.

And on Novaya Zemlya it is quite possible to continue testing various nuclear devices.


In terms of quantity, we are not leaders.

The world leaders are expected to be the United States, where from 1945 to 1992 they officially conducted 1054 tests of all types, atmospheric, underground, surface, underwater and in space.

Most testing was conducted at the Nevada Test Site (NTS), the Marshall Islands in the Pacific Ocean, and also in the Atlantic Ocean. The last nuclear explosion in the United States took place at a nuclear test site in Nevada on September 23, 1992. The test site is closed, but suitable for testing.

China carried out 1964 nuclear weapons tests (1996 atmospheric and 45 underground) from 23 to 22. Testing stopped in 1996, when China signed the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Since 2007, by decree of the PRC government, the Lop Nor nuclear test site has been completely closed and turned into a tourist site.

France conducted 1960 nuclear tests between 1996 and 210. The French turned out to be very pragmatic and did not disfigure their territory, leaving the beauty of nuclear testing to others. 17 tests were carried out in the Sahara desert, on the territory of its colony of Algeria, 46 atmospheric and 147 ground and underground on the atolls of Fangataufa and Mururoa in French Polynesia.


Britain conducted its first test on October 3, 1952, detonating a nuclear device on board a ship anchored off the Monte Bello Islands (western tip of Australia). In total, Great Britain conducted 1952 nuclear tests from 1991 to 88.

North Korea conducted six nuclear tests at the Punggye-ri nuclear test site.

India conducted the first test in 1974. Until 1998, five underground nuclear explosions were carried out at a test site northwest of the city of Pokhran, India was officially declared a nuclear power, but two days later Delhi announced its refusal to further tests.

Pakistan did not lag behind the eternal enemy; on May 28, 1998, it exploded five bombs underground, and on May 30, another one.

Russia's example regarding withdrawal from the CTBT may seem contagious and other countries will follow Russia's example. Naturally, many today are looking at the United States, waiting for its reaction. Actually, there can be only two reactions: either continuation of the tests, or implementation of the Moscow Treaty and failure to conduct tests in accordance with its letter.

How can withdrawal of ratification of the Treaty be useful to Russia?


Let's start with the fact that nuclear weapons are very different in their properties from conventional ones. An ordinary projectile can quietly lie in a dry warehouse for several decades and not lose its deadly properties.


In a nuclear device, complex processes of radioactive decay constantly occur, what is called a half-life. That is, over time, the isotopic composition of the charge changes, and it can degrade to some extent.

With conventional shells, everything is simpler: a control quantity is taken from one batch and fired at the firing range. Based on the results, conclusions are drawn about the suitability of the entire batch, after which it is either written off and sent for repairs, or its storage continues.

With nuclear weapons, everything looks about the same. In fact, only a full-scale test can give a clear answer to the question of whether the ammunition is suitable for use.

Nowadays, many unfriendly media in unfriendly countries very often talk about the fact that Russia is a colossus with feet of clay, and the army that has kept everyone in fear for the last 30 years is, let’s say, far from perfect.

Accordingly, our country’s nuclear potential is experiencing the same problems as the Armed Forces in general. Missiles made in Soviet times, warheads made at the same time - and now there are doubts that the Russian nuclear potential is such a potential. “A rusty sword of the Soviet era” is a common opinion. And our plutonium is old, and it is no longer possible to make new ammunition from it, since it has changed its isotopic character.


Such an opinion could undermine Russia’s already low authority. Previously, they were afraid of us, now... now there is even less and less fear towards Russia. Nuclear charges, of course, are not to blame here; we are talking about slightly different culprits. But a nuclear shield is something that should keep everyone who is not a friend of Russia in a certain tension.

So a unilateral exit from the moratorium is a possible option. Without regard to the countries that signed the Treaty. It still hasn’t come into force, so its value is low, especially for those who had no intention of fulfilling it. Like the USA, for example. Although, to be fair, by not ratifying the Treaty, the United States complied with its terms without conducting tests.

There is an ambivalent feeling: on the one hand, everyone seems to be complying with the terms of the agreement and not conducting tests, on the other hand, this is somewhat similar to a gentleman’s agreement. However, when the game changes, gentlemen often change the rules of the game.

Exiting the moratorium, albeit unilaterally, to verify nuclear arsenals is a step that can be taken without regard to the United States and Europe. And don’t especially think about the loss of prestige on the world stage; firstly, there is nothing much to lose, and secondly, it’s about the country’s security.

Whether the United States will begin its tests in response or not is the third question, the answer to which is not so important. It is more important to know that our nuclear arsenals guarantee the security of the country.

And testing the launch vehicles with a couple of launches at the Kure test site will also absolutely not hurt.


No matter how it looks, yes, naturally, such actions will cause another wave of indignation and condemnation from the world community, but the key word here is “next.” But it will allow us to draw conclusions about the state of Russia’s nuclear shield.

Analytics by physicists and calculations are, of course, good, but not a single theory will provide such confirmation as real tests. And here everything is quite transparent: in modern conditions, a step towards revoking the ratification of a treaty that has not entered into force is not a subject for condemnation by the world community. And the end of the moratorium does not always mean an escalation of the arms race.

So, of course, let’s bang... but later.
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    1. +10
      23 October 2023 05: 06
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      Well, now let's bang and the whole world will turn to dust? —

      No one will bang anything.... Think about why.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. +8
        23 October 2023 05: 57
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        No one will bang anything.... Think about why.

        A capitalist cannot destroy capitalism.
        1. +1
          23 October 2023 07: 01
          absolutely right - raven to crow.. Russia came out.., as it came out, so it will come in, show off! Yes, it’s not very clear whether we have any nuclear weapons left at all?
          1. +4
            23 October 2023 18: 39
            absolutely right - raven to crow...

            Sure sure . People don’t learn anything: that’s what they said before the First World War, too.
            But it is necessary to read the classics under capitalism that world wars are inevitable.
            It’s true that socialist crows also peck at each other, such as the PRC and Vietnam.
            So keep quiet, my dear, if you don’t know the story.
            1. +1
              24 October 2023 08: 19
              here is not about the history of wars and the reasons for their occurrence, but the specific current situation, and that capitalism, especially globalist, without crises, viruses and of course wars, as if without hands, who would argue
          2. 0
            24 October 2023 03: 36
            Do you really want them to bang? I'm just curious.
        2. +2
          23 October 2023 14: 23
          Capitalism, of course, will not be destroyed, but division of sales markets is always welcome. And ensuring the safety of your skin so that you don’t happen to be divided is generally a nice thing to do. Or should we take the gentlemen at their word?

          So they will bang, they will definitely bang. And then we can talk like a gentleman.
      3. -6
        23 October 2023 06: 18
        laughing ! ..
        Load more of us
        For some reason they became
        First grade at school today
        Like an institute.
        The teacher asks us
        With X's of tasks,
        Candidate of Sciences and that
        Cries over a task.

        Whether it will still be, or else it will be,
        Will it still be, oh-oh-oh-oh
        Whether it will still be, or else it will be,
        Will there be more, oh-oh-oh...



        This is a song by Alla Pugacheva... when she was still normal! What are you deleting? :)
        No need - the words are true...
        laughing ... Better practice your vocals with a karaoke video!
        And remember the words... good, good! They are completely there. Everything, until the very end.
        The end - in every sense, who has not yet understood what the deal with contracts smells like.
        1. AUL
          -1
          23 October 2023 07: 05
          Quote: Design engineer
          Everything, until the very end.
          The end - in every sense, who has not yet understood what the deal with contracts smells like.

          The next evolution on planet Earth will begin with rats and cockroaches. They can survive.
          1. +4
            23 October 2023 07: 15
            Quote from AUL
            rats and cockroaches. They can survive.

            They already live and prosper in this world, why bother?..?
            1. +2
              23 October 2023 08: 30
              And so that no one stops them from living well
              1. +3
                23 October 2023 08: 42
                Destroy the “golden” one in order to become a “golden” million. smile
                1. +3
                  23 October 2023 10: 54
                  Destroy the “golden” billion. Missed the word.
          2. +2
            23 October 2023 10: 34
            You probably mean liberals and nouveau riche. The evolution of these characters leads to the “ability to survive in any conditions” Yes
            1. +5
              23 October 2023 10: 56
              You are probably talking about liberals and nouveau riche
              The world is not used to being divided by workers and peasants, or rather it is divided by their hands, but by the nouveau riche.
            2. +1
              23 October 2023 15: 29
              It will be difficult for them. Wealth will turn into nothing. And no one will serve. The "poor fellows" will die - without servants and security.
        2. +10
          23 October 2023 08: 42
          Reading Skomorokhov. Previously, I familiarized myself with a wide variety of articles on issues of military science and technology. It turned out that's how. And I was thinking. It turned out that in our weapons research institutes there are idiots, there is no military strategic thinking, even the planes themselves are already outdated weapons. Why didn't the planes please? Probably the author lives near the airfield - they wake him up at night. But let's return to this article. Everything regarding the history of the issue is correct - that’s how it is. But when the time came to start condemning the state of nuclear affairs with an emphasis on backwardness and incompetence, I’m sorry. Let's begin. I quote. “In a nuclear device, complex processes of radioactive decay are constantly going on, what is called a half-life.” A bad mark on the exam. The half-life is not a process, but a characteristic of radioactive decay, describing the time during which the number of atoms of a radionuclide as a result of radioactive decay will decrease by half. It is the same for any radionuclide, no matter where it is located, even on Mars. For weapons-grade plutonium-239, its value is 24110 years. So there is no need to fear that the nuclear charge will “fizzle out.” Or in Russia the half-life is not the same, old Bohr is rolling over in his grave. The author, referring to the foreign press, however, falls into his usual rut and hints that the nuclear shield has rusted. Yes, there is a problem. The fact is that with each act of decay heat is released. The operation of nuclear power plants is based on this. When storing nuclear warheads, the opposite problem arises: heat removal. Experts in different countries are working on this. Their work is not public. And I would not advise discussing this topic, even if someone did not refer to the creations of foreign hacks or the revelations of a drunken colonel. There is a risk of guessing right and getting on a date with a comrade major.
          1. +2
            23 October 2023 19: 00
            Not entirely correct about decay and shelf life. There are problems. For example, plutonium “swells” during decay, its volume increases and, accordingly, the geometry of the charge is disrupted. The values ​​are tiny, but they are enough to reduce power. Constant and continuous temperature control is also necessary; without it, the plutonium will not go anywhere, but the charge will become unusable.
          2. +1
            23 October 2023 20: 31
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            It (half-life) is the same for any radionuclide, no matter where it is, even on Mars.

            Well, you can’t be so “fussy”!
            1. You need to correctly (more precisely) express your thought: In your phrase, the word “ANY” is superfluous. It must be replaced by the “SAME” nuclide... Because “any” implies the equality of the half-life of Uranium 235 and the same Plutonium 239. Which is not a true statement.
            2. And yet, the half-life is affected by the temperature of the “charge”... That’s why they provide a constant microclimate in storage facilities. At high temperatures, more free electrons are “born”... Thermal diffusion, however...insignificantly, but still has an effect. Yeah.
            Best regards, hi
            1. 0
              24 October 2023 10: 34
              I accept the objection regarding the ambiguity of what was written. I noticed already when editing, yes, it was dangerous to delete, because my computer often shows off. The decrease in the efficiency of a nuclear charge over time is affected not by a change in the half-life, but by thermal effects leading to swelling of the nuclear charge, the formation of cavities, etc. Yes, you are right that the radioactive radiation of BP increases over time, but this is not due to a change in T1/2, but due to the formation of many radioactive products of spontaneous fission under the influence of stray neutrons, many of which have a life shorter than plutonium -259 (cesium 137, strontium 90).
          3. -1
            23 October 2023 20: 58
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Reading Skomorokhov. Previously, I familiarized myself with a wide variety of articles on issues of military science and technology. It turned out that's how. And I was thinking. It turned out that in our weapons research institutes there are idiots, there is no military strategic thinking, even the planes themselves are already outdated weapons. Why didn't the planes please? Probably the author lives near the airfield - they wake him up at night. But let's return to this article. Everything regarding the history of the issue is correct - that’s how it is. But when the time came to start condemning the state of nuclear affairs with an emphasis on backwardness and incompetence, I’m sorry. Let's begin. I quote. “In a nuclear device, complex processes of radioactive decay are constantly going on, what is called a half-life.” A bad mark on the exam. The half-life is not a process, but a characteristic of radioactive decay, describing the time during which the number of atoms of a radionuclide as a result of radioactive decay will decrease by half. It is the same for any radionuclide, no matter where it is located, even on Mars. For weapons-grade plutonium-239, its value is 24110 years. So there is no need to fear that the nuclear charge will “fizzle out.” Or in Russia the half-life is not the same, old Bohr is rolling over in his grave. The author, referring to the foreign press, however, falls into his usual rut and hints that the nuclear shield has rusted. Yes, there is a problem. The fact is that with each act of decay heat is released. The operation of nuclear power plants is based on this. When storing nuclear warheads, the opposite problem arises: heat removal. Experts in different countries are working on this. Their work is not public. And I would not advise discussing this topic, even if someone did not refer to the creations of foreign hacks or the revelations of a drunken colonel. There is a risk of guessing right and getting on a date with a comrade major.

          4. 0
            23 October 2023 21: 16
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            For weapons-grade plutonium-239, its value is 24110 years. So there is no need to fear that the nuclear charge will “fizzle out.” Or in Russia the half-life is not the same, old Bohr is rolling over in his grave.
            You're showing off in vain: the decay of plutonium-239 produces plutonium-240, which is much more active. If there is only a couple of percent of it in the assembly, then in the event of an explosion, the assembly will be destroyed before the first kilotons are released. Therefore, the charge is disassembled and sent for re-enrichment.
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            There is a risk of guessing right and getting on a date with a comrade major.
            If you haven’t taken documents on this topic, then it’s unlikely.
            1. 0
              24 October 2023 04: 07
              bk""the decay of plutonium-239 produces plutonium-240"? No. plutonium-240 is a by-product of the production of weapons-grade plutonium in a reactor. Plutonium-239 decays by alpha decay to uranium-235, which in turn turns into short-lived thorium in a secular equilibrium. But the main problem for plutonium power plants is created by the fission reaction at collision with a “wandering” neutron, leading to the formation of relatively short-lived radionuclides (cesium-137, strontium-90...)
              1. 0
                24 October 2023 10: 39
                I would be careful about my fellow majors. It's different there. Unpredictable. Example. Our lieutenant colonel left the comrades of the majors. And that you understand something.
        3. +2
          23 October 2023 16: 26
          Quote: Design engineer
          This is a song by Alla Pugacheva... when she was still normal !

          And was she?
      4. +7
        23 October 2023 07: 13
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        No one will bang anything

        But the electorate must think about this.
        Because if he doesn’t think about this, he will start thinking about something else, for example about “pasta”, etc., and this is unacceptable.
        1. +3
          23 October 2023 15: 22
          The USA on October 18 in Nevada already went underground
          The Russian Armed Forces closed shipping in the Arctic region, including New Earth from October 22 to 28, 2023
          Soon we'll all check out this video together
          1. +1
            23 October 2023 16: 55
            What did they “ban” with? Ordinary explosives, they and we did this before. But we’ll see how we respond
      5. 0
        30 October 2023 22: 04
        I think that by the end of this year we will see big bangs, perhaps more than one. When we are informed about a decision, most likely it has already been made, actions have been thought through and prepared to consolidate the result. I remember the circus with the transfer of MIG31 to Belarus, and already then tactical nuclear weapons, although in fact everything was already there six months before the officialdom.
  2. +15
    23 October 2023 05: 06
    Of course, I am in favor of our nuclear weapons being at least as good as the enemy’s, but I am confused by the picture very similar to the picture of a diamond quarry:
    1. +3
      23 October 2023 13: 37
      I didn’t think about the fact that everything doesn’t look like a funnel. Of course, this is a diamond mine, not a funnel. Well, the author often experiences blizzards...
    2. +2
      23 October 2023 15: 23
      looks like a diamond tube
      Well, if underground it explodes at 50 megatons, then it will be a similar picture
      I think the mushroom will still burst out to a height of about 50 km
      1. 0
        24 October 2023 12: 50
        Well, if underground it explodes at 50 megatons, then it will be a similar picture

        Will not be. There will be a rock wall around the perimeter and another steepness.
    3. +3
      23 October 2023 18: 43
      The picture is confusing, very similar to the picture of a diamond quarry:

      Don’t be embarrassed, here it is from a slightly different angle. I was there I confirm laughing
    4. -2
      23 October 2023 21: 01
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Of course, I am in favor of our nuclear weapons being at least as good as the enemy’s, but I am confused by the picture very similar to the picture of a diamond quarry:

      So, more than one hundred bucks for this matter.
      Mines, rivers turned back...
      1. -1
        24 October 2023 12: 51
        So, more than one hundred bucks for this matter.

        There were no explosions during THIS case. Quarries were dug over kimberlite pipes.
        1. -1
          24 October 2023 17: 28
          That's how it was. But it turned out to be unprofitable to turn back the rivers
          https://www.google.com/amp/s/nplus1.ru/material/2019/08/29/peaceful-nuclear-explosions/amp
  3. +1
    23 October 2023 05: 10
    Analytics by physicists and calculations are, of course, good, but not a single theory will provide such confirmation as real tests.

    Novel! Your concern is commendable. This is exactly how you need to ask yourself every time whether everything has been done to resolve this heap of problems.
    Russia cannot use its tactical nuclear weapons even to stop the rabid aggression carried out by NATO at the hands of non-aligned Ukraine. They help, you see...Who do they help? Unbelted Nazis? Rampant Russophobes?
    * * *
    Every time I hear that we have some kind of nuclear doctrine, I remember the DPRK and its leader... For some reason, no one wants to “visit” him. And why, exactly? Yes, because he clearly showed what would happen with an American aircraft carrier and the entire AUG. And after showing the “cartoon about Poseidon,” we suddenly began to justify ourselves that it was completely by accident that the shores of the United States were identified in the video...
    To hell with them. It is necessary to show how this Statue of Liberty chokes and falls into the waves... The more real the picture, the better the clarity. The Americans panicked while listening to the radio play... Let them enjoy the footage from the Terminator.
    * * *
    I think it’s time to check tactical nuclear weapons and conduct a comparative analysis. At the same time, show European perverts the realities to which they strive...
    1. +4
      23 October 2023 06: 57
      It is necessary to show how this Statue of Liberty chokes and falls into the waves... The more real the picture, the better the clarity

      These cartoons are drawn for the people inside the country (so that they don’t run away), and overseas partners are well aware that they have everything under control in one huge country! (the effectiveness of drawing red lines will prevent you from lying)
    2. +9
      23 October 2023 07: 19
      Quote: ROSS 42
      I remember the DPRK and its leader... For some reason no one wants to “visit” him. And why, exactly?

      But because on this tiny piece of land, not the most suitable for life, there is nothing to take except two tens of millions of patriotic people...
      1. 0
        23 October 2023 08: 15
        on this tiny piece of land, not the most suitable for life, there is nothing to take except two tens of millions of patriotic people

        Well, yes, but we will give everything away for cheap...
    3. +5
      23 October 2023 11: 06
      North Korea is the elusive Joe. Why destroy it if it does not pose a real danger and serves as an excellent scarecrow (“look what socialism and communism are in reality”)? Kim threatens every week to launch nuclear attacks on South Korea and the United States, but things don’t go further than shaking the air. Because even in the DPRK there are elites who want to live well, and not sit in a bunker (at best) until the end of their days. The North Koreans have exactly the same “red lines” as ours, just less noticeable.
    4. -1
      23 October 2023 19: 19
      Quote: ROSS 42
      I think it’s time to check tactical nuclear weapons and conduct a comparative analysis. At the same time, show European perverts the realities to which they strive...

      And we can all guess where we need to test tactical nuclear weapons...
  4. +2
    23 October 2023 05: 46
    Thanks to the author of the article for the informative material.
  5. 0
    23 October 2023 05: 57
    Nuclear weapons testing is a matter of time; we'll see soon.
    1. 0
      23 October 2023 16: 32
      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      Nuclear weapons testing is a matter of time; we'll see soon.

      Unfortunately, I doubt it.
  6. +7
    23 October 2023 06: 05
    The theme of going to heaven has not been addressed. And if the religion does not provide for heaven, for example. shamanism? What if a person is an atheist? And if, based on the number of sins, a person should go to hell, then why should nuclear weapons change this, this is a circumstance that did not depend on this person.
    Putin didn’t just say this, he was starting from something.
    The Old Believers of the seventeenth century considered it important to die not just like that, but by self-immolation. The modern option is nuclear weapons?
    1. -3
      23 October 2023 12: 35
      Shamans are giving you bread right now. This is already the 2nd congress of shamans being held across the country.
      A Tuvan took Vova to a shaman for pike fishing before the war.
      our propaganda singer, also known as Shaman))
  7. +6
    23 October 2023 06: 20
    All this talk about nuclear weapons is not good. One gets the impression that people who talk about the use of nuclear weapons watched enough computer games, and in all seriousness they offer to try it in real life without hesitation about the consequences. Like little children, I put a nail in the socket and see if it gives me an electric shock or not? In my life, I talked with people who served at the Totsky training ground, I saw how some of them died from leukemia, simply - blood cancer, a consequence of radiation. My brother-in-law, he only went to Chernobyl twice, and he was also a white-blooded man, I don’t want to remember how he suffered. So, they were also former military personnel, and they used SZ, etc., which civilians cannot see. Nuclear weapons are needed as a deterrent , the inevitability of a retaliatory strike for any aggressor. Swinging a nuclear club, threatening the whole world is irresponsibility.
    Previously, they were afraid of us, now... now there is even less and less fear towards Russia. Nuclear charges, of course, are not to blame here; we are talking about slightly different culprits. But a nuclear shield is something that should keep everyone who is not a friend of Russia in a certain tension.
    This is where you need to start, bring your aircraft in complete order and combat readiness, then they will be respected and feared. The language definitely needs to be checked, there is no dispute here necessarily carriers. It is believed that the operating life of Topol-M is 15 years. However, in the fall of 2005, it was decided to carry out a combat training launch of weapons that had been in use for more than 20 years. It was necessary to check the reliability and safety of all systems and devices. The launch took place at the space airfield in Plesetsk, in the direction of the test site in Kamchatka (Kura). The intercontinental ballistic missile was able to hit a conditional target located at the test site with the required accuracy. More often is needed, but so far there have been a total of 2020 space launches in 15 (plus two launches from Kuru). The United States conducted 37 launches (3 unsuccessful), and China 39 (of which 4 were unsuccessful). As for other countries, the indicators are as follows: Europe - 7, New Zealand - 7, Japan - 4, India - 2, Iran - 2, Israel -1. Although Russia has fallen behind the leaders, it still firmly holds third place, preferably first.....but let's hope for the best.
    1. +4
      23 October 2023 07: 04
      All this talk about nuclear weapons is not good

      What do you think, a person who left enemy emissaries at the financial helm (when he could legally change them) will press the red button when necessary?
    2. -1
      23 October 2023 16: 58
      Quote: Unknown
      Nuclear weapons are needed as a deterrent, the inevitability of a retaliatory strike for any aggressor.

      Well, NATO is that same aggressor.
    3. 0
      25 October 2023 08: 04
      Why should we be responsible and others not? Does the West have more courage than us? If they are not afraid of a nuclear strike, but we are, then who is more purposeful in achieving their goals? Why should we think about preserving the West more than the West thinks about it?
  8. +3
    23 October 2023 07: 03
    when the game changes, gentlemen often change the rules of the game.

    Of course, the gentlemen change the rules of the game, and the Papuans continue to do what the gentlemen tell them!
  9. +6
    23 October 2023 07: 06
    All this makes sense only if there is confidence that in the event of a critical situation, the hand that should press the “red button” is Faberge and puts the interests of the entire country above the interests of all “friends”.
  10. +3
    23 October 2023 07: 30
    Previously, they were afraid of us, now... now there is even less and less fear towards Russia.

    I remembered Lyosha Oval’s presidential program, which he wrote before the 2018 presidential elections, clearly intending to go there. There was a point there, they say, let's disband the army - let's just leave a few ceremonial crews to amuse the people - no one will attack the owner of the nuclear arsenal anyway. "Whoa!" - I thought then. “Is there really someone following him?”
  11. +2
    23 October 2023 07: 38
    In the 50s-60s of the last century, hydro-nuclear explosion technology was developed to test nuclear/thermonuclear devices/ammunition, when the radioactive material uranium/plutonium is compressed by the explosion, but a chain reaction does not occur because the amount of fissile material is not enough. At the same time, the capacity is calculated in hundreds of tons of TNT. Apparently, the Americans recently carried out such an explosion at a nuclear test site, calling it chemical (the United States carried out an underground explosion at a nuclear test site in Nevada on October 18, 2023. On the same day, the State Duma adopted a law revoking ratification of the CTBT). A Google search does not yield any results; nuclear missile program expert Vladimir Khrustalev mentions a hydro-nuclear explosion.
    How to stop being afraid and love the nuclear bomb. (Maxim Vereshchak, Vladimir Khrustalev)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjPPlmEddc

    Those. There is no need for a nuclear test to verify the nuclear arsenal; it will be a socio-political event in order to produce an effect on the external and internal public.
  12. +3
    23 October 2023 07: 51
    So, of course, let’s bang... but later.

    "If you die, you'll start over again
    And everything will repeat, as it was in old age:
    The night, the icy ripple of the canal,
    Pharmacy, street, lamp." (c)
    1. +1
      23 October 2023 21: 32
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      "If you die, you'll start over again...

      This is A. Blok. And here is V. Vysotsky:
      Who believes in Mohammed, who - in Allah, who - in Jesus,
      Who does not believe in anything - even to hell to spite everyone ...
      The Indians came up with a good religion -
      That we, having given ends, do not die for good.
      Your soul was striving upward -
      Born again with a dream
      But if you lived like a pig -
      You will remain a pig.
      Yes
  13. +2
    23 October 2023 08: 03
    In fact, the history of the XNUMXth, and indeed the XNUMXst, century has clearly shown what all these so-called “agreements” are really worth. There are a lot of examples: “Munich Agreement”, “Brest-Litovsk Peace”, “Treaty of Friendship and Borders” with Nazi Germany, “Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact”, “Minsk Agreements”, “Grain Deal” and others. The result is known. And the conclusions in this regard are very disappointing. Especially when it concerns “global geopolitical” gambling addicts. So that.
  14. +3
    23 October 2023 08: 22
    Before banging, it would be a good idea to tighten up the shelters and civil defense forces, otherwise, in fact, there is a real colossus on clay. It seems like there is a shelter, but in fact there isn’t... Yes, and check the state reserve, they were very actively trading in stewed meat from this reserve...
    1. 0
      23 October 2023 21: 14
      Quote from turembo
      Before banging, it would be a good idea to tighten up the shelters and civil defense forces, otherwise, in fact, there is a real colossus on clay. It seems like there is a shelter, but in fact there isn’t... Yes, and check the state reserve, they were very actively trading in stewed meat from this reserve...

      A relic of the past.
      The uselessness of all this on the scale of large cities has already been discussed. It is simply impossible to build serious shelters (sealed, with filters, supplies, etc., constant “combat readiness”). And from “well, if only there’s at least something for a hundred people” - there’s no difference from a basement.
      Because, in this case, you just need to tick away from the city (moped in the teeth) in the direction of airfields/ports/military units
  15. -11
    23 October 2023 08: 25
    All power to the Soviets!

    Russia is getting rid of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin (shYvYrnadze-KozErevskog) legacy and rightly so. I approve! The main thing is not to stop, there are still Medvedev’s shoals of beacons...

    Whether we'll bang or not... We'll definitely bang, but in a retaliatory strike... It's not millionaires from Tahiti who sit behind the buttons, but ordinary Russian officers. "We don't need a World without Russia".

    Joke.
    Two nuclear bombs are encountered in flight - ours and the American one. Ours asks:
    -Where are you flying?
    - in Russia.
    - but what to do there, there is only devastation, it’s better to fly to you, show how capitalism is rotting.
    This is how the strait named after Comrade appeared. Stalin...
    1. +1
      23 October 2023 21: 38
      Quote: Boris55
      We will definitely bang, but in a counter-attack...

      Have you heard enough of "Soviet" propaganda?
      But the topic of “deep reciprocity” has been circulating for a long time. and something else “that they don’t talk about, that they don’t teach about at school” (c).
  16. +2
    23 October 2023 08: 36
    Well, now let's bang and the whole world will turn to dust?

    No one, nothing, will ever go down with us, so let’s rest, oh no, let’s calm down!
    1. +8
      23 October 2023 09: 37
      There are so many people dreaming of a nuclear war, like it will solve everything. Those who want it have apparently stocked up on Jerusalem artichoke, they say it removes radiation well. But where will those who want to put their personal radiation waste go? laughing And the most amazing thing is that the world began to like the idea of ​​collective suicide. In the past years they protested, no to nuclear war, no to the neutron bomb, peace to peace! And now everyone is ready to collectively commit suicide, in the hope that they won’t get hit and that the Jerusalem artichoke will cure them. laughing
      1. +4
        23 October 2023 09: 47
        Those who are interested have apparently stocked up on Jerusalem artichokes

        My wife treated me to it 25 years ago, when we were hanging out, I didn’t like it. So I’ll die from radiation, but I’ll go to heaven, the Chief promised.
        1. +3
          23 October 2023 10: 02
          Divorced? I knew that Jerusalem artichoke was the reason for everything.
        2. +1
          23 October 2023 10: 09
          I did not like.
          Yes, the same garbage, I really want to go to heaven, to see how it is there. At least they won’t throw me away with heaven? laughingHow about pension reform?
          1. -1
            23 October 2023 21: 29
            Quote: kor1vet1974
            I did not like.
            Yes, the same garbage, I really want to go to heaven, to see how it is there. At least they won’t throw me away with heaven? laughingHow about pension reform?

            And there are half-retired people - “what are you doing!”
      2. +1
        23 October 2023 19: 58
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        There are so many people dreaming of a nuclear war, like it will solve everything. Those who want it have apparently stocked up on Jerusalem artichoke, they say it removes radiation well. But where will those who want to put their personal radiation waste go? laughing And the most amazing thing is that the world began to like the idea of ​​collective suicide. In the past years they protested, no to nuclear war, no to the neutron bomb, peace to peace! And now everyone is ready to collectively commit suicide, in the hope that they won’t get hit and that the Jerusalem artichoke will cure them. laughing

        Absolutely right! And this “wonderful phenomenon” was repeated here in the comments many times. Maybe these people are tired of living?! winked
      3. 0
        23 October 2023 21: 25
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        There are so many people dreaming of a nuclear war, like it will solve everything. Those who want it have apparently stocked up on Jerusalem artichoke, they say it removes radiation well. But where will those who want to put their personal radiation waste go? laughing And the most amazing thing is that the world began to like the idea of ​​collective suicide. In the past years they protested, no to nuclear war, no to the neutron bomb, peace to peace! And now everyone is ready to collectively commit suicide, in the hope that they won’t get hit and that the Jerusalem artichoke will cure them. laughing

        the vaccine works
  17. +1
    23 October 2023 10: 00
    Roma in the topic KeGeUsually. Wow, when are you going to stop paying this scribbler for his verbal diarrhea? Never. And you, commentators, how long will you spend discussing the gynecologist-satellite? Roma, fucked up...
    1. -1
      23 October 2023 21: 51
      Quote: Sergey_Vladimir
      Roma, fucked up...

      It hurts you are smart, as I look! (from)
      Sergey, well, since you are so “smart,” you would write something about the needs of the day. Either from personal experience, or analysis of recent events, the development of scientific and technological progress...philosophical thought, finally...
      Don't engage in criticism, otherwise you will fall into cretinism! (With)
      Write something amazing. And we will “discuss” you both as a professional and as a great fiction writer! laughing
      AHA Yes
      1. 0
        24 October 2023 09: 55
        “Don’t poke me, s... son” (Citizen Gruzdev, if anything). You haven’t grown enough to discuss me, Roma(?). I can write on a highly specialized topic, but there is no need yet, however. I’m not a buffoon: I’m a Swede, a reaper, and a trumpet player.
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  18. +3
    23 October 2023 11: 09
    As history shows, there are no agreements that, if desired, cannot be interpreted based on the interests of the ruling class. The President of the Russian Federation has many times cited examples of violations by our geostrategic enemies of all kinds of treaties in a variety of areas from NATO and the WTO to international sports competitions, rhetorically asking the question of how in such a situation it is possible to agree on something and trust someone.
    The Non-Proliferation Treaty reflects the mutual desire of its initiators and creators to legitimize their scientific, technical, economic, political and military superiority over the rest of the world.
    There were three co-authors of the enslaving non-proliferation treaty, and there will be even more nuclear weapons owners today. The authors were added by China, Israel, North Korea, Pakistan and India, and many more so-called. “threshold” state formations that at any moment can create and launch into mass production of nuclear weapons - Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, Iran, Brazil, Nemetchina, South Africa, etc.
    The more nuclear weapons there are, the more difficult it is to agree on something and the greater the likelihood of its use, which under no circumstances will completely destroy life on the planet.
    1. +3
      23 October 2023 12: 22
      Everything was written correctly, but why “enslaved”? Compliance with the non-proliferation treaty (and so far it does not seem to have been violated) is beneficial not only for the United States but also for Russia, and for the world as a whole (less risk of escalation) too. Why do we need nuclear Germany, Poland, Finland, Korea, Japan, for example? A sharp increase in the number of nuclear weapons owners is possible either after the US/Russia withdraws from the NPT, or after the practical use of nuclear weapons, which many patriots are calling for, completely unaware of the consequences...
      1. -2
        23 October 2023 17: 09
        Quote: Kmon
        completely unaware of the consequences...

        But the consequences of non-use may be worse.
      2. +1
        23 October 2023 19: 48
        “Why “bonded”?

        It is enslaving to the rest of the world because it limits scientific and technological development, legitimizes the superiority of some over others, makes the rest of the world dependent, and the political and economic contradictions of nuclear state formations ultimately come down to a quarrel over the redistribution of spheres of influence, which pose the main threat of nuclear war.

        “Compliance with the non-proliferation treaty (and so far it does not seem to have been violated)”

        “The parties to the agreement, that is, the initiators, were the USSR, the USA and Great Britain - Three (!!!) state entities.
        The Moscow Treaty was not signed by China, France, both Koreas and Israel, who promptly understood the consequences of accession. India and Pakistan have been added to them - is this compliance with the agreement? And if there is a violation, what are the consequences for the violators?
        If North Korea had joined a separate agreement, it would not have been on the world map for a long time, and the PRC would have been divided into several “independent” and “democratic” colonies.

        “Why do we need nuclear Germany, Poland, Finland, Korea, Japan, for example?”

        None of the initiators of the treaty benefit from the expansion of the possession of weapons of mass destruction, because this undermines their dominance, but it is impossible to stop its spread; it can only be limited by political economic measures and the potential for scientific and economic development, which depends on the area and number of state entities (Denmark, Suriname, Algeria, Sri Lanka and other state entities do not have the resources and potential to create nuclear weapons , but under a combination of circumstances they can acquire both Taiwan and Australia), the level of social development, the system of government, etc. conditions.
  19. +3
    23 October 2023 11: 10
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Russia cannot use its tactical nuclear weapons even to stop that rabid aggression


    Yes, she can’t, because she is not alone on the planet. No one, including neighbors, will understand a nuclear strike on a non-nuclear state. Therefore, after the use of nuclear weapons, there will be a complete blockade of the country, and a really complete one: China, India and others will join it, because no one will like the normalization of the use of nuclear weapons. After this, all countries (Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Germany, Poland and many others) who can run to acquire their own nuclear power, because this is the only guarantee of safety... And we are critically dependent on imports.
    1. -1
      23 October 2023 17: 11
      Quote: Kmon
      No one, including neighbors, will understand a nuclear strike on a non-nuclear state.

      Come on, Japan is a non-nuclear state, but somehow everyone “understood” the US attack on Japan.
      1. +3
        23 October 2023 18: 09
        It is not worth equating the state of affairs and the status of nuclear weapons in 1945 with the current ones. They are completely different from the word. Nuclear weapons have been forbidden for 80 years (unless we are talking about the survival of the country, that’s why no one invades nuclear powers). MacArthur really wanted to use it in Korea - they gave him a slap on the wrist and kicked him out of office.
        1. -1
          23 October 2023 19: 03
          Quote: Kmon
          that's why no one invades nuclear powers

          No need to joke like that. Belgorod and Kursk are not Russia? I’m not even talking about new regions and Crimea. But they invaded us many times.
          1. 0
            23 October 2023 19: 07
            You are confusing shelling and sabotage raids, which do not threaten the existence of the state, with a full-fledged invasion.

            Well, let's assume that the United States is losing to Mexico and Russian-supplied missiles are flying across California. Will the US turn Mexico into a nuclear wasteland? Or will they dry up and leave in the end, like in Vietnam and Korea? 99% last.
            1. 0
              23 October 2023 21: 00
              Quote: Kmon
              Well, let's assume that the United States is losing to Mexico and Russian-supplied missiles are flying across California. Will the US turn Mexico into a nuclear wasteland? Or will they dry up and leave in the end, like in Vietnam and Korea? 99% last.

              The United States did not fire at Vietnam in the same way as Korea, and the United States did not leave Korea; they still occupied the southern part.
            2. +1
              23 October 2023 22: 07
              Quote: Kmon
              The US is losing to Mexico and Russian-supplied missiles are flying across California. Will the US turn Mexico into a nuclear wasteland?

              Your assumptions are beyond reality! (With)
              Actually, non-science fiction is on a different thread! laughing
              1. The states will not allow the supply of arms and military equipment to anyone in the CA that threatens their national security. (Direct and obvious threat!)
              2. The states will “fall out of their pants”, but will replace a ruler who is disloyal to them: color revolution, opposition, accident, respiratory cancer, etc.
              3. The states will buy out any “revolutionary” in the Western Hemisphere or his entourage and send them away from power through elections...
              It was our country that closed the “foreign department” of the Cheka/KGB. But in the States this is all right. If necessary, they shoot their own presidents, not to mention some Latino!
              IMHO.
  20. +3
    23 October 2023 11: 12
    Exiting the Treaty means working on mistakes, on our mistakes, which is dictated by time and understanding the current situation. I would like that in future our legislators would not “run ahead of the locomotive” and would not rush to ratify serious documents, especially with countries hostile to us!
  21. +1
    23 October 2023 11: 18
    As a result of the discourse; “to bang with tactical nuclear weapons or not to bang?”, someone had to ask a logical childish question; “Do you even have something to bang about?” Otherwise, there are too many respectable people who, by default, do not admit that “the king may turn out to be naked.” What really happens

    Since the half-life of weapons-grade plutonium is 20 thousand years, there is hope that it has not gone rotten.
    But here are the thieves....their relatives. If, as M. Delyagin said: “a non-typical state has been created - a machine for plundering the country’s resources,” then where are the guarantees about such an expensive resource as weapons-grade plutonium? There are no guarantees.... It would seem that, logically, they should have taken him out (and -or replaced) in the first place...... not everything in a row, of course, but for example, “every other time.” laughing

    No mathematical calculations will help here. I remember the powerful story of A.P. Chekhov's "Intruder", where a peasant unscrewed the nuts from the railway tracks, and I sincerely didn’t understand what was wrong here...he didn’t even unscrew all the nuts! And just enough so that there is no train wreck...... Because what is state-owned is no one's. All of Russia stands on this! We broke the USSR from this wisdom in peacetime.

    Yes, in three decades and a few North American lemons, our “creatives” will do more in the wilderness of remote warehouses or launch sites than Nature has done in 20 thousand years, and guess what, if all the documents are in order and there are no tests.
  22. +2
    23 October 2023 11: 44
    The title does not correspond to the topic of the article. Testing and combat use are two different things.
  23. +7
    23 October 2023 12: 42
    I re-read the article twice in order to find analytics in it, that is
    systematic numerical analysis of data to identify and interpret significant patterns

    but the article does not contain this, even in microscopic doses, and the article does not explain what dividends Russia can receive by “coming out of the moratorium.”
    If we talk about monitoring the state of nuclear and thermonuclear weapons, technologies have long been known that allow this to be done without any “exits from the moratorium”; such technology is mentioned in the comments - hydronuclear tests.
    In the form in which the “exit from the moratorium” is presented in the article, this is another “red line”.
    It’s high time for the site to either close down the “Analytics” section or hire a real analyst so as not to lower its rating by amateur analysts.
    1. +5
      23 October 2023 13: 28
      By the way, the penultimate photo is an R-36M missile (according to NATO classification - SS-18 Mod. 1, 2, 3 Satan) on the open area of ​​the world's only Museum of Strategic Missile Forces near the village of Pobugskoye, Kirovograd region of Ukraine.
      1. +2
        23 October 2023 22: 18
        Quote from Frettaskyrandi
        The world's only Museum of Strategic Missile Forces

        1. not the only one. The Academy of the Strategic Missile Forces named after Peter the Great has a model range of ALL ICBMs that were and are in service with the RF Armed Forces.
        2. Country U does not have such a type of aircraft as the Strategic Missile Forces! Where did the “museum” come from??? Or, after they dug up the Black Sea, did you decide to undertake “another feat” for the glory of Father Bandera? laughing
        1. 0
          25 October 2023 17: 18
          Where did the "museum" come from?


          The missile army of the Strategic Missile Forces was deployed on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR.
          The museum was created on the basis of the former underground command post of the Strategic Missile Forces missile regiment, which was armed with RT-23 silo ICBMs (these are the ones that were used at the railway launchers).
  24. +4
    23 October 2023 13: 46
    What is the point of withdrawing from this agreement? Nuclear testing is a long-passed stage in history! Now everyone in Russia is trying to save nature and the environment! Who is trying to take us back to the distant sixties and why?
  25. -1
    23 October 2023 14: 36
    The cries that “it’s okay, otherwise how the rest of the world will look,” about testing, or about the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine come, in my opinion, either from supporters of the yellow-blakite movement, or illiterate people.
    As for the tests through the eyes of the average person, to whom the structure of a nuclear bomb was explained: the bomb consists not only of uranium-plutonium, which has a service life of thousands of years, but it is also a complex electronic device, which, in addition to the natural aging of its components, is also exposed to radioactive radiation. How this electronics and even elementary wires will work many years from now is a big question. Probably, preventive work somehow restores suitability, but how this is actually the question. The test still needs to be carried out, and Russia is not alone here. Americans are doing the same thing.
    And now about the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine:
    How many of our men died during the two years of war? I think at least 50 thousand, the Wagnerites alone voiced 20 thousand. How long will the war last? One year? Two years? 10 years? I think for a long time. The resources of the NATO countries and their economies are many times more interested in a long war than in Russia and the United States; fortunately, Ukraine can mobilize another 1-3 million of its population as soldiers. The United States does not feel sorry for the Ukrainians. So, how many more of ours could die? 50 - 100 - 500 thousand!!! Is not it too much. And the cripples? What about a damaged psyche? What about the economy? The growth of our economy is due to military production, which slows down the development of the country. This is not growth. This is a fall. And for example, 5-10 years of war and the Russian economy will crash, which is what the United States wishes for us.
    What is the way out of the war? It will not be possible to win quickly in the current state of the Armed Forces. The option of surrendering positions is many times worse than a long war. Fighting for a long time means large losses of people and the collapse of the economy. The only way out is tactical nuclear strikes on Ukraine, which should lead to its surrender.
    International community? Well, and a lot of sanctions, for example, against Israel for its attacks on peaceful cities? Will NATO strike Russia in response? It won't even hit very much. Everyone wants to live and their shirt is closer to their body.
    1. +5
      23 October 2023 18: 11
      Of course they won't hit you. They will simply declare a complete blockade. China, India and everyone else (except perhaps the DPRK) will join it. Nuclear weapons are a completely different category than any conventional weapons and bombings. To apply it under current conditions means to become an absolute pariah forever.
      1. -3
        23 October 2023 18: 38
        They will simply declare a complete blockade. China, India and everyone else

        Well, India - maybe. And China is definitely not interested in the blockade. Iran definitely won't support it. Most Arab countries, as well as many African ones, will not support it.
        1. +1
          23 October 2023 19: 10
          Neither China, nor Iran, nor Arab and African countries need such a precedent. Because a nuclear strike on Ukraine means that’s it, there are no more rules. The only thing that can protect you is having your own nuclear weapons. Develop it or die. After which very quickly nuclear Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, Germany, Poland and many many others will appear, including Iran’s neighbors and the Arabs. Who wants that? Nobody wants it. Therefore, the person who committed this will be driven into the Stone Age by all possible methods except direct invasion. So that it would be discouraging. And if someone does not join the sanctions, then the United States, China, India and other major powers will unanimously explain to him why this is not worth doing, and he will quickly change his mind.
      2. -4
        23 October 2023 19: 15
        They'll just declare a complete blockade

        They won't bother announcing! And even more so to implement it.
        With the strong and even desperate, everyone tries to be extremely careful, lest they, out of grief, cover vital objects.
    2. 0
      25 October 2023 07: 42
      Why in Ukraine? Tell me more about Voronezh. We need to hit the West, there are many options, but all of them hit the West and, first of all, Europe. Driving Poseidon from 50 megatons and above into the English Channel is one of the options.
  26. BAI
    +1
    23 October 2023 17: 42
    There must be a calculation of the consequences of withdrawing from the agreement. But we don't have it. While we were making threats - as soon as we leave the agreement, well, everyone, hold on! The United States was preparing, and as soon as Russia came out, demonstratively, they conducted tests on the same day. What about Russia? Nothing. What came out, what didn't come out. The USA benefited from this entry. Russia - nothing. As always, everything is done through the ass.
    On the day of release, Russia was supposed to conduct tests. Without this, it’s just another shame for the whole world. Well, we’re no longer used to it
    1. +1
      23 October 2023 19: 16
      Quote: BAI
      Without this, it’s just another shame for the whole world. Well, we’re no longer used to it

      not the people, but who rules the Russian Federation!
  27. +2
    23 October 2023 19: 14
    The USA knows that the Russian Federation will not fail and Europe will continue to put pressure on the Russian Federation when they do not see a threat, so why are they afraid?
  28. -3
    23 October 2023 19: 41
    Why bang and the World is in ruins? - The West is already falling apart successfully - the main thing is not to interfere
  29. 0
    23 October 2023 19: 49
    So a unilateral exit from the moratorium is a possible option. Without regard to the countries that signed the Treaty. It still hasn’t come into force, so its value is low, especially for those who had no intention of fulfilling it. Like the USA, for example. Although, we must pay tribute, without ratifying the Treaty, the United States complied with its terms without conducting tests
    Sorry, but these arguments seem somewhat ambiguous...
  30. -1
    23 October 2023 23: 58
    There will never be a boom in the USA. Well, or it will go boom when all the important giant bunkers for a happy life are built within 10 years. And there is an assumption that there will be a lot of them in America - millions. And here you see for yourself what we have.
  31. 0
    25 October 2023 00: 09
    I didn’t really understand the main idea of ​​this article (it seems like everything I know about Semipalatinsk, Novaya Zemlya and the work of Duma workers...).... A recent statement by our chief specialist in internationally voicing all sorts of “concerns” regarding Russia’s decision to be the first “ don’t mess around at the test site”, in the sense of not carrying out “the first regular nuclear weapons tests”, makes the fuss of Duma workers about revoking the ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty - a waste of their precious time on “emptiness”, another PR campaign, for “not much preoccupied with the brain" and IQ - the international community, which at the moment "doesn't give a damn and cares about Russia." We are all trying to “bring the West + USA to their senses” with all sorts of demonstrations of international principles and concepts from the arsenal of “Leopold the cat” (from the once popular cartoon in the USSR), but he, the West + USA, have long lived and professed other principles and concepts about which , it seems, in Russia they know by “hearsay” and very superficially, judging by the official “movements and statements” (we exclude hungry Africa and the always unstable Latin America, which are more likely to “reach out” to the “image” of the hospitable USSR, represented by today’s Russia) . And hence the very “modest” results of Russian foreign policy and relations with the West + the USA and even with its immediate environment in the person of the once “fraternal Soviet republics”...
  32. 0
    25 October 2023 07: 35
    No, we won't bang. We would like to do it a long time ago; there are all the reasons for this. I'm sure that even a nuclear strike from a drone or a dirty bomb, everything except a massive launch of missiles with poison. warheads on our territory will not lead to a nuclear strike on the West. Even if there are single poison attacks on our territory, not of a massive nature, but with a period of 1-2 months, our politicians will endure it because they have an iron character and will, despite the war of the entire West on our territory, the bombing of Moscow and Russian cities, our politicians will not will succumb to provocations. I don’t know whether I’m proud or not that at the helm there are such staunch people who are for world peace, despite the murder of our women and children, terrorist attacks, sabotage, the death of thousands of military personnel, we will not allow us to be drawn into a nuclear war, let us all die, but the West will live and prosper. Is that true or not?
  33. -1
    25 October 2023 23: 38
    First, you need to cancel this: Presidential Order No. 11-rp of March 1994, 129 “On the implementation of measures to organize the daily activities of strategic nuclear forces with untargeted missiles.”