"Warrior" in the Russian army

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The Ministry of Defense of Russia received information that the department would continue to actively test a new set of Russian equipment, which recently had time to be christened according to a Western model as equipment for a soldier of the future. This equipment was named the “Warrior”, and throughout the 4 months (from the beginning of the autumn 2012 of the year), state tests were carried out on the basis of the 27-th separate Motorized Rifle Brigade in the Moscow Region and at the airborne troops.


Serviceman with a Kalashnikov AK-12


Currently, the “Warrior” kit is being tested by fighters from the reconnaissance company of the 27 th brigade of motorized riflemen. To test the quality and practicality of the new set, there are allocated about 40 updated or re-created elements, to which, besides the form of the soldier, it also includes weapon and personal protective equipment.

Defense Ministry spokesman Nikolai Donyushkin states that the new “Warrior” kit is being tested fairly successfully, as confirmed by the fighters themselves. The newest equipment for performing special tasks by the Russian military personnel was highly appreciated by the commander of the Land Forces, Vladimir Chirkin. The colonel-general said that the “Warrior” had passed multi-vector tests as part of the Kavkaz-2012 exercises. According to him, the pilot military operation of the innovation kit was carried out in various weather and combat conditions in order to get the maximum amount of information about how reliable and practical the Russian development is.

Bulletproof vest new combat equipment "Warrior"


The kit itself consists of a number of elements and devices that should contribute to the implementation of combat missions with increased efficiency. One of the parts of the “Warrior” is a special army suit, which was developed using anti-splinter technology. This is a combat protective kit, which is known as Permyachka. To ensure that armored rifles did not constrain the actions of a fighter during operations, it was decided to make them out of special materials that differ in the lowest possible mass with increased protective characteristics. The suit saves a soldier from small low-speed splinters, as well as from mechanical influences of a different kind (for example, a blow with a blade) that could lead to injury or death.

The use of special materials that can withstand the fragments of grenades, mines, shells, small arms bullets, can significantly reduce the overall weight of the suit. It is the relatively low total weight of the entire “Warrior” kit with the high security of the fighter that makes it possible to call the kit very effective.

BZK "Permyachka" and "Permyachka-M", which are part of the "Warrior", is the development of Russian specialists. In these developments, the principle of maximum possible security is used while reducing the overall weight of the jumpsuit. The “Warrior” overalls are able to protect the fighter not only in the frontal and dorsal projections, but also to cover other vulnerable spots, including the neck, hands, and shoulders. The head of a serviceman using the “Warrior” kit will be protected by a helmet that can save the life of a fighter even with a direct hit by a Makarov pistol bullet fired from a distance of 5-5,5 m. The eyes are protected by special glasses made of special glass that can withstand a fragment of diameter about 6 mm, flying at a speed of about 350 m / s.


Helmet of new combat equipment "Warrior"


Defense Ministry spokesman Nikolai Donyushkin states that the Russian model surpasses its foreign counterparts in a whole class of parameters (including the mass of the kit). In particular, during the tests, significant advantages were revealed in a number of areas of the “Warrior” over other samples of both domestic combat kits and the French FELIN kit. Recall that it was FELIN who stubbornly advanced to equip the Russian army with former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. At the same time, the ex-heads of the ministry for some reason did not mind that the French version of the combat kit could have been significantly more expensive than alternative Russian developments. Yes, and with practicality at FELIN, too, not everything can be considered smooth.

Today, apparently, the main military department decided to finally abandon the order of foreign combat kits for the needs of the Russian army and at the same time intensify the test actions in relation to the Russian-made set.

If we compare by mass with foreign models, the “Warrior” looks, in fact, much preferable. The total weight of the lightweight kit, which includes a splinter suit and body armor of the fifth protective class, is less than 10 kg. If we talk about the reinforced set in terms of protection, consisting of an assault body armor of the sixth protective class, a special bulletproof helmet and overalls with shields protecting it from shocks and shrapnel, its weight is about 20 kilograms. This is about 5 kilograms below many similar-type foreign samples.

Portable electronic platform for connecting electronic equipment


In addition to testing the kit, the soldiers of the Land Forces of the Russian Federation are also testing the “Warrior” as a kit that can be used during the landing. One of the sections of this kind of testing is related to how convenient the paratroopers will be using the new domestic development during the parachute jump.

While a series of tests "Warrior" shows that the kit is quite difficult to use at the time of landing. One of the officers of the above-mentioned 27 Brigade stated that the “Warrior” must be improved, including for its effective use in mountainous conditions. In the tests, he identified several shortcomings. As one of these drawbacks, the relatively weak fastenings of mounted elements of the “Warrior” were mentioned: a backpack, pouches. If the mount is not strengthened, then at the moment when the parachute opens, the backpack with the load and ammo pouches with ammunition can simply come off due to the increased mechanical effect. Another disadvantage of the kit is called communication systems, which often lose a signal from such radio stations as, for example, Р-163, and strongly depend on the terrain: for example, on the Kavkaz-2012 exercises, mountain peaks often became an obstacle to stable reception and transmission radio signal.

Specialists of TsNIITochmash said that they take into account the wishes and constructive criticism from representatives of various types of troops, in order to bring the "Warrior" to maximum efficiency. In particular, at the moment a detailed analysis is being conducted on how the kit behaves in the conditions of landing from various heights: both from the airborne training tower and from the sides of helicopters and airplanes. Testing activities are also carried out in terms of obtaining additional information about the communication systems of the set.

Knife "Bumblebee"


So far, the Ratnik communication system is based on the Sagittarius complex. The main functions of this complex are not only communication between individual fighters during the operation, but also communication with the command center. The communication system is designed to allow communication both in the usual voice version and through special signal commands. Sagittarius, according to the developers, is capable of transmitting photographic images and video broadcasts from the battlefield, which will allow commanders to more effectively correct the actions of fighters. The receiving-transmitting device can be mounted on a firearm, or directly to a soldier's helmet. The second use case looks like a kind of eyecup. Its use will allow the fighter to hit the enemy from cover without having to have a direct view of what is happening on the ground.
The life support system of the kit includes: a universal backpack (volume 50 l), raid backpack (volume up to 10 l), camouflage kits, removable insulation for use during the cold season, a vented T-shirt, a vest with compartments for ammunition, a communication system and other elements, folding insulating gasket, a special mat, raincoat, cap, balaclava, and even mosquito nets.

In addition, the “Warrior” is equipped with elements of protection against so-called non-lethal weapons (sound, tear gas, thermal, etc.), as well as against weapons of toxic effects. In the "Warrior", as reported by the developers, uses a navigation system, which will primarily be based on Russian software and hardware developments. If we talk about the additional element base of the kit, then it is worthwhile to single out the presence of an individual water purifying filter, sets of personal energy supply facilities and damage to the enemy.




“Warrior” is a modular system that can be constantly updated and supplemented depending on the requirements of a particular combat situation, climatic conditions and other parameters. The kit is distinguished by its focus on use in the performance of a whole range of tasks by military personnel of various types and types of troops.

It is worth noting that special combat equipment in our country began to be developed in the second half of the 90-x. However, so far the matter of its mass introduction into the troops never came. In this regard, information about the start of serial input into the army operation of the “Warrior” already in 2014 year (after all the proper tests and correction of the kit have been carried out) is perceived positively. It remains to rely on the fact that all the roughness of the developers will bring to naught, and the Russian army will get a truly convenient and effective kit for use in various conditions.
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  1. +20
    8 January 2013 10: 59
    Still, this is the equipment of a soldier of the recent past and present, not the future.
    1. Alexander
      +5
      8 January 2013 11: 18
      Put the elements of the exoskeleton and you will be happy.
      1. Alexander
        0
        8 January 2013 11: 40
        those. happiness
        1. -8
          8 January 2013 11: 50
          And what is the advantage of the exoskeleton in direct combat? On the contrary, this "harness" will only interfere. The future belongs to non-lethal weapons.
          1. Alexander
            +13
            8 January 2013 11: 53
            Non-lethal weapons are utopias.
            1. -7
              8 January 2013 11: 57
              Quote: Alexander
              Non-lethal weapons are utopias.

              Is it so peremptory right?
              1. Alexander
                +2
                8 January 2013 12: 01
                Yes, that's right.
                1. +3
                  8 January 2013 12: 05
                  Quote: Alexander
                  Yes, that's right.

                  Well, I surrender under the onslaught of reinforced concrete arguments.
                  1. +2
                    8 January 2013 15: 32
                    How can a non-lethal weapon overcome the defense intended for a lethal weapon? After all, the essence of the weapon is reduced to the energy of the charge acting on the enemy.
                    If the averaged limit of the impact energy of non-lethal and lethal weapons lies somewhere in the range of 100-200 joules, then non-lethal weapons will simply not be effective. This is ordinary physics.
                    Of course, if you do not come up with fantastic projects with rays, etc. But even there, if you think about it, the principles of protection will be the same.
                    1. 0
                      8 January 2013 15: 54
                      Quote: bootlegger
                      How can a non-lethal weapon overcome the defense intended for a lethal weapon? After all, the essence of the weapon is reduced to the energy of the charge acting on the enemy.

                      In addition to mechanical energy, there are other types of energy. Electrical, light, thermal, sound, electromagnetic, etc. Does the new equipment hold electricity, for example?
                      1. +2
                        8 January 2013 16: 55
                        How do you bring this electrical energy to the body of a soldier? The same teaser simply will not break through the simplest vest of the first level of protection.
                        It is the same with the rest of the energies. A little energy is easy to defend. And energy, with a margin, will bring down everyone at a short distance and only anger at a large one.
                        A non-lethal weapon is really possible only in the civilian version, when the distance is known and the enemy’s ammunition is determined.
                      2. -5
                        8 January 2013 17: 24
                        Quote: bootlegger
                        The same teaser simply will not break through the simplest vest of the first level of protection.

                        Well, I’ll ask the question differently: does the vest material have dielectric properties to protect it from a projectile that will not penetrate the vest, but will transmit a powerful electric discharge upon contact? And in general, if we are talking about the future, then I doubt that the infantry will participate in the battle at all.
                      3. +2
                        8 January 2013 18: 50
                        Understand that this is not about the private properties of materials.
                        An electric shocker, for example, doesn’t break through thick winter clothes and an easy shirt. What is the point of protecting a weapon against which it is so cheap and so simple to implement?
                        The question is, in order to implement the idea of ​​a non-lethal weapon, when you influence a soldier it will fit in a very narrow energy range. Now this difference between life and death is about 100 joules. How can you strike 300-500 meters with such accuracy and dosage, for example ? How to do this exactly when the range of distances and the variety of equipment of a soldier on the battlefield is very wide? Slightly mistaken and the weapon turns from non-lethal to lethal. Or it will be ineffective. And what then is the point of the idea?
                        Are you going to put a bunch of adjustment switches on your weapons and determine how the soldier is equipped before the shot?
                        If there is no infantry on the battlefield, then the meaning of army non-lethal weapons is lost.
                      4. +1
                        8 January 2013 20: 54
                        Quote: bootlegger
                        An electric shocker, for example, does not break through thick winter clothes and an easy shirt.

                        punches 3-4 centimeters of clothing. Non-lethal weapons mean the destruction of infrastructure and technical, including unmanned, robotic means of the enemy without destructive bombing with heavy casualties. A huge pile of soldiers with automatic weapons will not solve anything, devoid of command and supply sooner or later lay down their weapons. Forget about gunfights and joules. Naturally, personal weapons based on non-penetrative projectile energy will develop. In general, the concept of hostilities will change. Therefore, this sample can not be called equipment of the future. New materials are being created that will negate the effectiveness of existing small arms. Now our bronik holds a bullet from SVD from 15 meters. What principles will be the new weapon - I do not know.
                      5. +1
                        4 February 2013 12: 42
                        Quote: bootlegger
                        If there is no infantry on the battlefield, then the meaning of army non-lethal weapons is lost.

                        the territory is only considered captured when the eggs of the infantryman dangle over it.
                        Quote, but I don’t remember the author unfortunately bully
                      6. 0
                        9 January 2013 07: 13
                        Quote: brutal true
                        Well, I’ll ask the question differently: does the vest material have dielectric properties to protect it from a projectile that will not penetrate the vest, but will transmit a powerful electric discharge upon contact?
                        Very relevant development laughing do these electric shells think Rushing over the battlefield here and there and here all the infantry shakes laughing But seriously, is it not too early to start money spending protection against all exotic weapons, we are still not all right with protection from the traditional
                      7. Cake
                        0
                        24 July 2013 01: 50
                        In the future, if there will be global conflicts, then most likely for resources and people (specifically ordinary soldiers) will just be consumables and the more you get the more resources will go to survivors, and it is unlikely that the United States and NATO will be very concerned about their lives more enemy soldiers when the senators have nothing to wake up to fuel their cars, even now they don’t really stand on ceremony ...
                    2. +1
                      9 January 2013 02: 18
                      Quote: bootlegger
                      How can a non-lethal weapon overcome the defense intended for a lethal weapon? After all, the essence of the weapon is reduced to the energy of the charge acting on the enemy.

                      Non-lethal weapons may include tear gases, infrasound, laser radiation of dosed power, etc., and not just weapons that transmit kinetic energy, IMHO ...
                      1. 0
                        9 January 2013 11: 45
                        I agree, all of this is there. But, again. From gases it will protect a gas mask and glasses. From dosed laser radiation, also glasses. Infrasound and microwave radiation are quite large-sized and noticeable installations and they will be brought out on the battlefield in the first place. Moreover, from small arms.
                        Their power and degree of influence is limited and must be strictly dosed. Otherwise, they immediately turn into a lethal weapon. And thereby they are limited in their capabilities. And the enemy has no restrictions on the neutralization of these devices.
                        I’m not saying that lethal weapons will not take root on a civilian or in the police, but in the army these non-lethal systems are initially in a losing position.
                      2. 0
                        23 May 2015 12: 08
                        The most powerful non-lethal weapon is the effect on the mind.
                  2. -1
                    8 January 2013 15: 39
                    well, your arguments are no less "reinforced concrete" laughing
                    1. 0
                      8 January 2013 15: 59
                      Quote: bddrus
                      well, your arguments are no less "reinforced concrete"
                      I will stockpile my arguments for those who are ready to listen to them, and not impose a resolution in advance!
                    2. -1
                      9 January 2013 17: 16
                      These types of energy will be used which ordinary people know nothing about. For example, wave. The effect will be amazing.
          2. 0
            9 January 2013 15: 04
            Quote: brutal true

            And what is the advantage of the exoskeleton in direct combat? On the contrary, this "harness" will only interfere. The future belongs to non-lethal weapons.

            I remember in the late 90s on TV there was a cartoon: echo sounders. There, too, the story began with an exoskeleton. As a continuation, it turned out to be the development of this skeleton in a full-fledged suit with weapons and the ability to fly. Who knows where the development of techologies will lead ...
          3. 0
            4 February 2013 12: 37
            The future belongs to non-lethal weapons
            for sure - a bunch of roses in the face (go nasty-Homeland in danger) laughing
      2. +12
        8 January 2013 12: 48
        Quote: Alexander
        Put the elements of the exoskeleton and you will be happy.

        Well, if without unnecessary sarcasm, then there's really nothing to minus Brutal. If in terms of security and mass the "warrior" is very good, then in terms of foreign support it is necessary to go further! Recently, the exhibition showed how a person in a helmet with sensors after a short training mentally controlled electronic devices, played electronic games such as virtual table tennis, etc. In addition, it is time to seriously create a helmet like that of pilots, so that the image would be right in the bulletproof glass of the helmet. Coupled with mental control, much greater efficiency could be achieved. This is much faster than the commander will get his tablet from somewhere, start manipulating his fingers into it ... Really yesterday. Moreover, this should be developed today. Or another example - in Israel they created a shell for a tank, which can explode either upon contact with the wall of a house, or after entering the house. For urban battles, it is. But there the tanker switches manually and tunes each shell. And you need without manipulation, again - mental control ...
        An urgent need to develop a terrahertz laser. A laser at such a wavelength can penetrate obstacles, the Doppler effect allows you to see an object moving (and people can’t breathe), by the density of obstacles and other characteristics, you can even determine what kind of material it penetrates through, up to the definition of explosives. .. That is, landmines can be calculated. If you combine the scan results with such a terahertz laser using software into a single picture, you can get a virtual and very detailed map of the combat tetra, right up to the last buried action movie. And how to get them from behind the walls? This is no longer a question - sub-caliber concrete-piercing shells of small-caliber cannons and something like that. Do not minus how much in vain - this is not from what to blacken, but in order to do even better!
        1. +3
          8 January 2013 13: 09
          You are right, the interfaces in the equipment are antediluvian, while you are manipulating and while the reaction to the signal follows, the situation will have time to change. There are no anti-mine sensors, friend or foe sensors. As for the helmet with a display - it will probably be a little expensive.
          1. +5
            8 January 2013 13: 29
            Quote: brutal true
            As for the helmet with a display - it will probably be a little expensive.

            - I agree. But war is a very expensive affair, and military equipment is, by definition, an expensive thing. Somehow, they considered the cost of a chassis with a mortar with formuccans - just a truck with a pipe to launch mines. It turned out that it was very expensive according to calculations - the same four trucks could be bought, one pipe - it pulls in three trucks! -)))))))). Cost reduction can occur if launched into widespread use by a citizen. But I can’t even imagine where such helmets can be used on a civilian scale on a large scale - it’s a very specific thing.
            So it’s not very convenient for me to drive a car at night, the headlights are not very helpful ... Maybe the TMA could somehow be adapted?
          2. +4
            8 January 2013 15: 25
            It seems that not all fighters need a display. For example, a sapper works with a sapper robot, "with a slight movement of the hands" attaches a display - "robot eyes" to the helmet, and a joystick in his hands. The scout, through the same removable display, contacted the observer robot, the drone and took the info. Those. some things to use as an APP. Still, rain, snow, dust, blast waves, shrapnel, bullets, bricks - they have a bad habit of disabling electronics.
        2. Alexander
          +2
          8 January 2013 14: 59
          I didn’t minus anyone
        3. Misantrop
          +2
          8 January 2013 15: 37
          Quote: aksakal
          if without too much sarcasm
          And how without sarcasm? Take it all, create, buy for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and ... hope that all this will be able to master the year-term conscript? Or switch to a clean contract, than to finally form a herd of dependent calves from the population, without the forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, who are unable to fight off even a mosquito at night?
        4. +5
          8 January 2013 15: 50
          The question is what to improve? Equipment or fighter? Isn't the warrior too helpless, deprived of all sorts of demands? Pulling "augmented reality" is not a job. How to make sure that the enemy does not grunt? No, if you are the hero of the victorious over-army of the Thane, courageously coming out with all this equipment to the naked and barefooted natives - everything is cool. And on EQUAL? Who will fill up data transmission paths with interference, change commands, burn liquid crystals in luxurious glasses?
          Hope for the iron and cobblestones that they will fight for us ... we already heard that. Yes, and have already seen ... a spectacular sight. Who is our main adversary? Is it wise to go out to battle with him, hoping for the little things that he’s doing is much better? So do not win ...
          1. +1
            8 January 2013 16: 22
            Quote: Mikhail3
            No, if you are the hero of the victorious over-army of the tan, courageously going out with all this crew to the naked and barefoot natives - everything is cool.

            - you’ll have to fight mainly with them. They are now in Syria. Although the bastards also quickly imitate thermal imaging cameras and more - see ANNA-news, captured caches. It seems that bandits who do not know how to read and write, only learned the Koran from memory, and mastered these devices.
            Quote: Mikhail3
            And on equal? Which will flood the data transmission paths with noise, replace teams, burn liquid crystals in luxurious glasses?

            - not only to develop these chips, but also counter-chips are necessary. It’s like with armor and shells - in the UVZ they are developing one side, in Kolomenskoye - the exact opposite. Here is exactly the same. You are absolutely right - Amer soldiers are taught using virtual simulators, then they really fight in Afghanistan so that formuites with military experience simply choke on laughter, fight so stupidly.
            The middle and balance are important. You need to teach a fighter real actions, but also to master the latest developments. It’s clear that you don’t teach such things in a year. Although if you work on the interfaces, then there will be a complicated filling, but the development is quite simple. Here it depends on the terms of reference.
            For an example - I hate the Amer mobile phone Motorola - such an interface. that he never mastered it -))))). But on NOKIA or Samsung - is another matter.
            Information is never superfluous. If there is a lot of it, the fighter will filter out unnecessary info himself. Hence the conclusion - alas, in the wars of the future a soldier with a higher engineering education will be requested. Plus a full officer package of knowledge of tactics and strategy of warfare. With sufficient awareness of each fighter, the fighting can be carried out on a self-organizing basis, like football players on the field - just one of 11 players hasn’t got a plan for the upcoming attack, then he has ripened from someone, and it’s possible to figure out and pick up the work of all the sotals. Is the idea clear? And there can’t be many such soldiers. And the soldiers of the Red Army, about which conservatives write, in such a war will be just meat, kittens worthless meat. Despite his courage, which is worth a lot, but still, with poor development or non-use of scientific achievements, it is still clearly not enough.
            1. +6
              8 January 2013 17: 20
              "Information is never superfluous." I will disappoint you. It happens. From a certain (and not so high) limit, information begins to reduce the quality of decisions made. When the limit is reached, all decisions go through the forest! About a year ago, the same Americans were playing a military-staff game - the Pentgon generals with all their computers, UAVs, tactical analyzers, sensors ... and one single professor (not even military sciences) and several of his graduate students (I don't remember how they are correctly called).
              The professor for a long time, humiliatingly and shamefully drove funny faces over generals and supercomputers. They have not won a single hassle! The concept of collecting and processing all growing arrays of information is completely messy. It helps sell supercomps, augmented reality, tactical tablets ... and leads to defeat in a hundred cases out of a hundred. Decisions must be made on the basis of a compact package of basic parameters, quickly, accurately and necessarily by people. Any excess over this algorithm is a defeat!
              You describe the strategy of the special forces, which has existed for a long time. And the means of communication between the fighters does not provide. Do you know why? For complete uselessness. Judging by the arguments, you are one of those who think. that the Red Army overwhelmed the Germans with corpses. With great personal courage, huh ...
              The survivors and the WINNING "kittens" put it all in a special way - how to work with a single fist, now scattering, working in twos and threes, then changing ... It was the experience of the Second World War. So our soldiers fought MASSOVO already somewhere from the 43rd. And then a set of trainings was formalized, with the help of which this can be taught to do. Not completely, of course, this can be finally taught only in battle and not everyone. But many. Who walked in the 45th on Red Square - EVERYTHING knew how. As one.
              If you put your "roboslodat" on the one hand and the veterans of the Red Army on the other, after conducting preliminary briefing on combat capabilities ... I'm afraid the fight would not work out. Our grandfathers would not have found anything interesting for themselves in this beating, excuse me.
              Of course, work in the direction of all these mules is necessary. But to teach people to them is only as redundant and not too necessary. Rather, in order to understand where and how opponents will crap stupidly. And PEOPLE need to be taught and cooked. Which are cooler than any cars and always will be. (By the way, the real special team will certainly take the navigator to work. But even more certainly, it will teach the map of the upcoming route and the entire area in general. By heart, so that it flies off the teeth. And only then is there a real chance and it’s done and come back)
              1. +1
                8 January 2013 20: 45
                Mikhail3, do not get involved in categorical judgments. for this was also with the advent of radio communications in the troops. Anyway, with the advent of everything new, from the time of aviation and earlier.
                (semaphore alphabet, most reliable when electricity is over. however, they no longer teach, like the morse code.)
                1. +1
                  13 January 2013 14: 42
                  Quote: dmitreach
                  no longer taught, like the morse code.


                  Huh! I remember the case (the first one), they worked on the Amur River in navigation, and the PMS / HF communications terminal of the GMDSS complex refused my call (who does not know - the Global International Distress Communication System. Or GMDSS). the good thing was that he had time to work with the Morse code and the equipment was appropriate)) So they would have been left without a telegraph and telephone connection)) And in those wild places there were no service centers)))
              2. 0
                8 January 2013 23: 08
                Quote: Mikhail3
                "Information is never superfluous." I will disappoint you. It happens. From a certain (and not so high) limit, information begins to reduce the quality of decisions made.
                - Oppanki, this is news, thanks for the educational program, however, I know the theory of information compression very well. Moreover, I bring to your attention - not only people do the same, nature itself compresses the information - the very same
                Quote: Mikhail3
                compact package of basic parameters
                - in complex phase transitions of nonlinear systems are called order parameters. There, only one parameter can dictate to the other parameters what the system should be in the new conditions. Accordingly, there is no need to know all those subordinate parameters and generally even somehow take them into account. Read for yourself on this topic, since we have come to the knowledge on the basis of what and what information to make a decision. This can be taught to people, and all, if only to be trained.
                By mules - for example, when I do my homework, I often deliberately choose a calculator from my youngest daughter. Although I know that the calculator will not disappear from our lives, moreover, they will soon be given for change in supermarkets. Let him learn to multiply with a column - laborious, but useful. Don't you do that? Recommend. Here it is the same - the specialist needs to be taught and fought down to bare hands, but it is also necessary to master new technologies. I think the losses, for example, of tanks blown up by a mine (and mines are the main factor in the conduct of combat actions by irregular troops), when it is possible to create the same terahertz camp and solve this problem, are absolutely mediocre. I do not think it is normal for a situation when one skillfully hiding good sniper restrains an entire unit and inflicts senseless losses, and this whole unit loses precious time calculating this sniper - look on YouTube the death of a Pskov journalist is a really unpleasant situation, if these technologies were not a question. Come on, a terahertz laser, there are complex technical problems - well, at least compact acoustic sensors that allow using the triangulation method to calculate the position of this sniper with an accuracy of 10 meters - where is it in the "warrior"? Or even though it is an ordinary scanning laser, but it catches the reflection of the eyepiece of the enemy sight - where is it in the "warrior". Although this development is in the Russian military-industrial complex. Are these all extra mules? I do not agree at all.
                Quote: Mikhail3
                how to work with a single fist, sometimes crumbling, then working as deuces, then changing ..
                - that's what I'm talking about. The plan was not prepared in advance, the generals sat at night at the disposition, in the morning they sent out envelopes "to open at 14-00" ... After all, this is how we fought in World War II ... About your impromptu and improvisations during the battle, leading to the fundamental unpredictability of your actions for enemy - I hear for the first time. I think this is possible on the basis of complete information about the position of each of his associates, etc. How did they not need this connection in these cases? Telepathy, or what? I watched the training of anti-terrorist units, but even there they at least have a connection based on gestures - fingers, hands, head - but it is there. But such a unit, the very specificity of the battle suggests that the fighters be close by, shoulder to shoulder. I am talking about a specialist operating in a wider theater of operations.
              3. ken
                ken
                +1
                9 January 2013 06: 54
                If you put your "roboslodat" on the one hand and the veterans of the Red Army on the other, after conducting preliminary briefing on combat capabilities ... I'm afraid the fight would not work out. Our grandfathers would not have found anything interesting for themselves in this beating, excuse me.


                If you have an e-tablet, where information about each soldier (which also has such tablets) is transmitted online, where the detected enemy is displayed, then you will just know where to use the force. Because war is the use of force in the right place.
                This is, of course, not a matter of forgetting the experience of wars, because you can, for example, come up with a device where a soldier with el-oh will glow like a Christmas tree on the screen, but the Americans generally stupidly throw rockets in Afghanistan, any shepherd found with a rusty gun, and they have Moments pass from detection to attack from a drone that flies over the area around the clock, and which you can control from the beach in Hawaii and make decisions anywhere, even while sitting at home.
                In the third, of course, you are right that the war will begin with the assassination of all satellites, and then you will have to learn flag signaling and get ancient radio stations out of museums.
    2. 0
      8 January 2013 20: 00
      What guys, appetite for eating comes ?! That is the first swallows. And scary to think, but 5 years ago it's all only in the movies and seen.
      1. 0
        17 January 2013 20: 22
        Yes, 10 years ago and even more so, but this is all an experiment left.
    3. X-SPIRIT-X
      +1
      8 January 2013 23: 09
      I apologize for getting in, but here is a link to the documentary about "Warrior"
      http://zmi.by/media/films/28659-poligon-universalnyy-soldat-2012-dokumentalnyy-s
      atrip.html
  2. +4
    8 January 2013 11: 02
    What they feel is good. That eliminate the shortcomings, modernize - too. Equipment is needed.
    But here you are reading an article, and another is recalled, about a clogged-up tortured soldier - a murdered fellow-Caucasian. So for whom will the new equipment be - for the tormentor or his victim? Of course, all issues must be resolved, but as long as there is even a shadow of unregulated relationships in the army, such an army is not suitable for anything, even with modern equipment.
    And the "warrior", I hope, will.
    1. Alexander
      +3
      8 January 2013 11: 20
      The solution is very simple:

      1) Do not put the dagas above the rank of ordinary, otherwise they are immediately arrogant.
      2) The officer corps should monitor them.
      3) It is necessary to drive the Caucasians the idea that they are also Russian.
      1. +14
        8 January 2013 11: 26
        Quote: Alexander
        3) It is necessary to drive the Caucasians the idea that they are also Russian

        How to drive a bat between horns?
        1. Alexander
          -5
          8 January 2013 11: 34
          What you pedagogue, Alexashka, is called extremism and genocide.
      2. -3
        8 January 2013 12: 41
        Funny you imagine driving a thought that Russians discriminate 8)
    2. -4
      8 January 2013 11: 26
      Quote: erased
      But here you are reading an article, and another is recalled, about a clogged-up tortured soldier - a murdered fellow-Caucasian. So for whom will the new equipment be - for the tormentor or his victim?

      Butherth caught? Can you link to an article? Probably dream about the separation of the Caucasus? Of course, the new equipment will be allocated only to Caucasians, so that it would be more convenient to kill Russians. Such a message from your post?
      1. +3
        8 January 2013 12: 05
        Link to an article on the same site - http://topwar.ru/22791-esche-raz-o-kavkazskom-prizyve.html#comment-id-815163
        Title - A serviceman sewed up ears to a colleague with thread and cut his nose with scissors.
        Learn not only to read, but also to understand the meaning of what is written. It is not clear - re-read.
        1. -2
          8 January 2013 12: 49
          Quote: erased
          Link to an article on the same site - http://topwar.ru/22791-esche-raz-o-kavkazskom-prizyve.html#comment-id-815163

          Thanks for the link. I note that there are thousands of articles on the site.
          Quote: erased
          Title - A serviceman sewed up ears to a colleague with thread and cut his nose with scissors.

          It is strange that in the media only cases of bullying with the participation of Caucasians are exaggerated. However, it is no secret that cases of bullying and murder between Russian servicemen by nationality happen much more often, but when a Russian kills a Russian, then, apparently, this is normal. There is an attempt, on your part and by the author of the article you quoted, to translate the hazing problem into the plane of interethnic enmity, and not ordinary criminality.
          Quote: erased
          Title - A serviceman sewed up ears to a colleague with thread and cut his nose with scissors.
          I don’t know who you need to be in order to allow such a treatment. Surely this soldier has read horror stories about Caucasians and was psychologically broken in advance, did not resist, because only a frightened person can put himself that way. I'm not talking about the fact that you could ask for help without waiting until they beat you up.
          Quote: erased
          Learn not only to read, but also to understand the meaning of what is written. It is not clear - re-read.

          Certainly, where can a bast fool understand the meaning of your highly intellectual libels? "So who will the new equipment be for - for the torturer or his victim?" - I probably wrote it? The meaning of what you wrote, firstly, is offtopic, and secondly, it is the result of an acute negative emotional reaction, and not an objective look.
          1. +3
            8 January 2013 14: 48
            You are not Caucasian by chance? I’ll tell you not only my opinion, but also the opinion of all my friends and acquaintances, a representative of the North Caucasus, a wild, impudent person who understands nothing but strength. That is, if a Russian was stabbed-this is not nationalism, but a Caucasian was stabbed-is genocide, racism, nationalism ?? Then yes, all my acquaintances and friends are all fascists and Nazis and children, and girls, etc.
            I am for the exclusion of all Caucasians from the ranks of the armed forces and sent to their historical homeland, then there will be no statements and we will all live in peace. I emphasize that I have friends and acquaintances of various financial groups, there are rich and middle classes, etc., but they are all united in this opinion and I support them in terms of their attitude to these peoples. Have you ever wondered why?
            1. +1
              8 January 2013 15: 43
              then, by your logic, you are for separating the Caucasus from Russia, Circassia (part of the Stavropol Territory) - this is how you can get to the separation of Tuva, Khakassia and other national republics
              1. +1
                8 January 2013 18: 05
                The tsar added them, defeating them and filling them with blood (they only understand this). Further, he settled the Cossacks according to the principle - in the valley, on the fertile lands - Cossacks, on the mountain - animals. And it was good for everyone. World, in a word. And this is not your speculation - this is history.
            2. 0
              8 January 2013 16: 59
              Quote: Marrying
              You are not Caucasian by chance?
              What if so? Caucasians are not people? Or not citizens?
              Quote: Marrying
              I’ll tell you not only my opinion, but also the opinion of all my friends and acquaintances, a representative of the North Caucasus, a wild, impudent person who understands nothing but strength.

              What is this opinion based on?
              Quote: Marrying
              That is, if a Russian was stabbed-this is not nationalism, but a Caucasian was stabbed-is genocide, racism, nationalism ??

              Again, on the basis of what are you asking the question in this way?
              Quote: Marrying
              Then yes, all my acquaintances and friends are all fascists and Nazis and children, and girls, etc.

              Sympathize with you. What country do you live in?
              Quote: Marrying
              I am for the exclusion of all Caucasians from the ranks of the armed forces and sent to their historical homeland, then there will be no statements and we will all live in peace.

              Nobody will be interested in your fascist opinion, if only the prosecutor. The laws of the Russian Federation clearly state that "Service in the army is an honorable duty of every citizen."
              Quote: Marrying
              I emphasize that I have friends and acquaintances of various financial groups, there are rich and middle classes, etc., but they are all united in this opinion and I support them in terms of their attitude to these peoples.
              Do not make me laugh. I also have a lot of friends and so what. Each has its own circle of friends.
              Quote: Marrying
              Have you ever wondered why?

              Of course I did. They (your acquaintances) formed their opinion on the basis of enemy propaganda and idiots picking it up, aimed at inciting ethnic hatred, by means of a dosed and strictly verified in terms of supplying information stuffing, which causes a persistent emotional outburst and indignation, after which no one will figure it out. true or not. After all, everyone is in righteous anger, because Caucasians, by definition, are all bad. For example: a Caucasian stabbed a man on a bus. Question: but what, only a Caucasian stabbed someone, robbed, raped, rude, stole, deceived !? No! The same thing elsewhere could have been done by a Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar and a person of any nationality, but it is the case of a Caucasian who will be exaggerated. And let's send out demotivators in groups "in contact". If you now begin to tell me that the Russians and other peoples are such white fluffy angels and do not commit grave crimes, then what can we talk to you about !? So, exaggerating cases of violation of the law by Caucasians, often presented as outrageous, creates a corresponding constant information itch, when it seems that the Caucasus is cutting, beating, robbing, rude, etc. As a result, the man in the street under such pressure of "noodles" begins to ask the question: How long !? Stop feeding the Caucasus !! In short, the preconditions for separatism are being created. As a result, the people will go with themselves and the country is falling apart. This is exactly what happened to the USSR, only on ideological grounds. Now they are working on the national. And not only. But the goal is always the same - Russia.
              1. +3
                8 January 2013 17: 48
                1. Kazakhs are people and citizens, but not all citizens of the Russian Federation.
                2. In constant conflicts, not only of me, but also of my friends (I live in Moscow), besides, there are no such problems with Russians, Ukrainians, Tatars.
                3. Read our laws
                4. I live in the Russian Federation, the center of Moscow
                5. From, with a fascist opinion, that is, if I give priority to the Slavic nation (which Russia has mainly supported for centuries, then I’m a fascist), as I said above, I laughed. Service in the army has long been no longer an honorable duty , ask youth in 95% they will answer that way.
                6. Here I agree completely.
                7. Of course, in your reasoning it makes sense and it is clear that nations are trying to divide (ala 5 column), but I draw conclusions not only from the media, newspapers, etc., I draw conclusions about what is happening on the streets. Go out at 22 o'clock to any street in Moscow, for the most part you will not see Russian people, and when the majority criticizes that they say they’re to blame, you really protest when 1 residents from other cities, 10 from Kazakhstan and 10 come to 20 native Muscovite from Central Asia, nothing good can be thought of. Draw conclusions not from the media, but what is happening on the streets of large cities of the Russian Federation.
                1. +1
                  8 January 2013 22: 38
                  1. Are Russian citizens serving in the Russian army?
                  2. Conflicts will always be, just as there are always bullish ones. There is Russian bull, there is Caucasian, that’s the whole difference. As for the fact that there are no such (what?) Problems with other nations, it’s not true. Interethnic graters have always been. You listen, so the whole Caucasus wanders around Moscow, does not give Russians a passage. We have a total of 5 million Caucasians in our country; most of them live in the Caucasus. Nobody argues that a competent migration policy is needed, but this is another question.
                  3. I did not understand what laws I need to read. About military service? Article 59 of the Constitution: "Defense of the Fatherland is the duty and duty of a citizen of the Russian Federation."
                  4. Congratulations. Moscow is a special region. Among Muscovites, mostly non-native, purebreds and snobs are often found, where every second thinks of himself as a navel of land. Especially on the roads it is visible. Grandmas are all in Moscow, and so many climb there. I live in Vologda, also in the center. Here, imagine, pedestrian drivers at the crossings pass. We have not so many Caucasians. But our people are stronger, do not spoil.
                  5.
                  Quote: Marrying
                  From, a fascist opinion, that is, if I give priority to the Slavic nation

                  I know your rhetoric, it was like that, about ten years ago. And if in the case, then in the Russian Federation all peoples are equal among equals. If one people extols itself before another, then what is it called? And who will voluntarily unite with such a people? If you are Russian, then remember, the Russians have never exalted themselves in front of any other people, that's why they created such a country!
                  Quote: Marrying
                  . Service in the army, has long been no longer an honorable duty, ask the youth in 95% they will answer that way.
                  In Moscow, maybe.
                  7. It is understandable, many in our time want to champ more fatter, and therefore go to Moscow. And now it’s necessary to dissolve Russia, so that you would live very well in Moscow. Enough, they dismissed it once already. By the way, if not visitors, then who will * but then clean it up after you? Are you, apparently, a janitor disdain to work? In fact, in the 91st Muscovites supported on the streets of state. coup (I remind you that the people in the referendum were in favor of preserving the USSR), the wind sowed, now, reap the storm. Like it or not, it's your own fault.
              2. +1
                8 January 2013 18: 07
                No, the creature described in the article is not human. Those who cut off our heads in Chechnya are not people. Sooner or later, flirting with you will end. Then we'll figure it out.
                1. 0
                  8 January 2013 22: 18
                  With the existing mode, flirting will not end.
                  And to understand, you need a second Ermolov.
              3. Misantrop
                +1
                8 January 2013 23: 19
                Quote: brutal true
                For example: a Caucasian killed a man in a bus. Question: but what, only a Caucasian killed someone, robbed, raped, cheated, stole, deceived !? No! The same thing in another place could be done by a Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar and a person of any nationality, but ...
                ... for some reason, if it does, then much less often. Moreover, if any of the above is caught, then they will be imprisoned almost without options. A Caucasian will be released almost without options (the diaspora will pay off). Or is something wrong? All greyhounds - from impunity .. They feel financial and power support behind their backs, and that’s why they become impudent
    3. +3
      8 January 2013 14: 57
      Yes, they should simply serve separately, in construction battalions and on subsidiary farms or not more than 1 Caucasian per company
      1. Alexander
        +1
        8 January 2013 15: 15
        1 Caucasian per company is too much.
      2. Misantrop
        +2
        9 January 2013 00: 01
        Quote: DimOK
        on farms

        I recalled the case of such a Caucasian in the farm. In Kamchatka, it was. They sent a shepherd who, if he knew how, was to deal with the herd. Naturally, they determined it on the auxiliary one. The guy is diligent, he knows the business, there are no questions for him. A comprehensive commission arrives from Moscow, among other things, checks this auxiliary. Everything is fine, cleanliness, order, animals well-groomed. We decided to reward this fighter for diligence. They asked what he would like. He asked to go on vacation, missed you. And then you can continue to serve. There are no problems, leave is given as a reward to a fighter after a year of service. And here it turns out that this fighter has already served ... 6th year, they stupidly forgot about him. Oh and the brawl then was ... laughing
  3. Jahn
    +3
    8 January 2013 11: 23
    necessary topic for the army. it's time to change clothes for a long time
    1. 0
      9 January 2013 15: 11
      A mystery remains for me. So how many sets in the army are there one or two.
      Yudashkin does not count.
  4. Jenya
    -5
    8 January 2013 11: 37
    cool, but keep in mind that the average life time of a fighter in battle is very small so you don’t have to spend a lot of money on equipment, but for long routes with long battles, the super option
    1. +4
      8 January 2013 15: 13
      Quote: jenya
      cool, but keep in mind that the average life time of a fighter in battle is very small so you don’t have to spend a lot of money on equipment, but for long routes with long battles, the super option

      - cynically think. Our tanks counted roughly the same way - after all, the life time of a tank in real combat is very short. Why then put the Conder, a tile for a teapot and even a stove? Life has shown that current wars are not designed for large losses, calculated in millions of soldiers, and therefore it makes sense to equip a soldier in full. You can ask the Israelis - although I do not consider them friends, but rather potential opponents, but it makes sense to learn from each fighter in this regard. Despite the potential life time of a fighter
      1. 0
        8 January 2013 18: 11
        Amendment - American wars. Due to the high cost of points.
        With all due respect, watch their war in Afghanistan on a tube. And they want to eat fish and sit on x.
    2. +1
      8 January 2013 20: 05
      Have you read about WWII? Well done. A worthwhile lesson. Just getting ready for past wars is not necessary. and not right.
  5. werr17
    +10
    8 January 2013 11: 39
    3) It is necessary to drive the Caucasians the idea that they are also Russian.

    How can a monkey be explained to be a human? Well, they just got off the trees and there is already bam - and people will not ride.
    1. +2
      9 January 2013 00: 48
      Quote: werr17
      How can a monkey be explained to be a human?

      You are a stupid and narrow-minded person, we need to be wiser, we need to think and do everything so that all living in Russia consider themselves to be citizens of the country, and not temporary passengers until the first mess (war), and with such utterances as yours, you plant them back on a tree .
  6. 0
    8 January 2013 11: 44
    Well, it’s not very bad, it remains to put all this into the troops at the end of the tests !!!
  7. 0
    8 January 2013 11: 48
    Not a single photo with NVD
    1. 0
      18 January 2013 11: 26
      NVD? is this such a hefty thing a couple kilograms?
      See previous news, somewhere in September, there were photos of NVD on the stands.
  8. +4
    8 January 2013 11: 56
    Experiencing it well, but this form should have arrived yesterday. Calling it the "outfit of the future" sounds like humor. Of course, there is no doubt that in the end "Warrior" will be no worse than Land Warrior and Mounted Warrior, and in some ways better, but still we need to start thinking about the future and focus on it (no matter how I feel about America, but the war in Iraq in 91. clearly showed that it is better to be ready for tomorrow's war, and not yesterday's and with an option for today). hi
    1. 0
      8 January 2013 20: 10
      you need to start somewhere. what happened 5 years ago?
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 11: 27
        Perm, a good kit and quite an adult.
  9. +4
    8 January 2013 12: 03
    Specialists of TsNIITochmash said that they take into account the wishes and constructive criticism from representatives of various military branches.
    Don’t even go to the grandmother. So it should be from the beginning.
  10. cil86
    +1
    8 January 2013 12: 16
    The main thing is that it does not remain two or three prototypes
  11. MILITARY RF
    +4
    8 January 2013 12: 39
    Here is another Warrior
    1. Alexander
      +4
      8 January 2013 15: 01
      They have some kind of weird facial expressions.
      1. 0
        11 January 2013 09: 55
        In a pea coat indoors, and not such an expression may be laughing
  12. gribnik777
    +2
    8 January 2013 12: 39
    It is important that not a single set "went to the left" (into the "green").
    1. +2
      8 January 2013 16: 14
      Archive. A minor upgrade and a dream of goodwill people will come true - the installation of a registered beacon on each set of each soldier. Plus electronic scanning of beacons (barcoded) of all military property.

      We are dreaming about the discovery of all the robbers of battle kits from orbit. A kind of all-seeing eye from above. wink
      1. 0
        8 January 2013 17: 22
        Quote: Astrey
        A minor upgrade and a dream of goodwill people will come true - the installation of a registered beacon on each set of each soldier. Plus electronic scanning of beacons (barcoded) of all military property.

        Something tells me that the beacons will be stolen first laughing
  13. Eric
    +1
    8 January 2013 13: 07
    I am interested in gloves like those of Amer’s soldiers so that you can grab the thorn!
    1. +6
      8 January 2013 13: 38
      there is nothing special, they are just made of Kevlar, something like this:

      BLACKHAWK! SOLAG
      1. 0
        8 January 2013 18: 22
        The magic word is "kevlar".
        I have "Night rod specials VRSC". For those who do not know - it's such a Harley. \\\\ sports model from a Porsche. All FXRG protection (highest grade). Solid Kevlar and other three-piece. Nifiga did not help from a fractured knee at 10 km / h. A real soldier in a 45-year-old uniform bangs an American in a Kevlar.
        1. 0
          8 January 2013 19: 57
          tin, a familiar biker, on the "dividing markings slipped a wheel" (intermittent) - almost a year with a crutch. cunningly tortured hip fracture. all my life on motorcycles. experience is huge.
          and even so, protection gives a chance.
        2. 0
          8 January 2013 23: 04
          Solid Kevlar and other triomudia. Nifiga did not help from a crushed knee at 10 km / h.

          The question is, where does the combat (tactical) Kevlar gloves and a motorcycle suit (in addition to Kevlar and skin, there should be a bunch of shields on the shoulders, back, elbows, knees and hips, say NP-protectors) ???
          After all, if you recall, the body armor also does not guarantee broken ribs, it makes it possible to survive, although situations can vary.
        3. 0
          9 January 2013 05: 55
          I agree. The main skill, and Kevlar is an auxiliary thing. I had a breakdown from a two-meter height with Kevlar insurance, it was overwhelmed with reinforcement, and I was muzzled into concrete. A normal climbing rope would definitely not be anything.
      2. Eric
        0
        9 January 2013 03: 24
        They are implemented in Warriors, I’m talking about Comrade! fellow
        1. 0
          9 January 2013 05: 46
          Eric
          They are implemented in Warrior,

          Those gloves that I indicated are not made in our country, they are in Moscow under 3 rubles, about which they are sold in a warrior - not one photo is visible, although the same "Splav" sews something similar, though under the order and more expensive, but still ...
          I have always said and will say that I am as ready for war as possible from the mob. composition and not only - there will be airsoft players ...
      3. Mgydvin
        +1
        10 January 2013 02: 17
        Or such an option
    2. AK-47
      +6
      8 January 2013 17: 04
      Quote: Eric
      I'm interested in gloves like those of Amer’s soldiers so that you can ...

      A Kevlar panties, like the Americans you are not interested?
      1. Alexander
        -1
        8 January 2013 17: 15
        Do not you think that putting on the site of men's underwear smells like dovecot?
        1. AK-47
          +1
          8 January 2013 18: 16
          Quote: Alexander
          Don't you think that ...?

          I don’t, but if anyone has something that hurts ...
          The introduction of protective underwear made of ballistic fabrics began in the American armed forces to protect the groin and legs of military personnel from injuries. The US military in Afghanistan received samples of pelvic protection kits in the summer of 2011. Following military complaints about poor thermal management, some changes were made to improve product ventilation. In total, the US Marine Corps is planning to order 183.000 pairs of Kevlar underwear for its military personnel.

          But they don’t write how to wash them.
          1. AK-47
            +1
            8 January 2013 18: 35
            The BCB Blast Boxers underwear resembling cycle shorts in shape protect not only the groin, but also partially the legs and this is only the first level of protection.
            The second level (protective outer-garment - POG) must be worn already over uniform trousers. It is a set of soft and hard protective elements resembling parts of a conventional body armor.
            1. AK-47
              +1
              8 January 2013 18: 45
              However, this was not enough for the Americans, they introduced another level of protection for the main organ.
              Some sources mention that the pelvic defense complex may include a third level - Tier Three - a kind of armored shorts.
              1. 0
                17 January 2013 20: 25
                We return to the Wehrmacht landing ...
              2. 0
                18 January 2013 11: 30
                But they don’t write how to wash them.

                Well, about Kevlar underpants: Kevlar loses its properties when wet, but after drying it acquires them again, I think you can wash it on your hands.
                I have never seen anywhere that cowards are positioned as armor protection, I only met it as extra strong clothing that protects from all kinds of unpleasant environmental influences, but not from splinters and bullets.
                By the way, if they are made from fiber of the new generation AuTx, then their properties will increase much, because a person can sweat very much and get wet, and Kevlar will lose its strength properties under such circumstances.
  14. Sleptsoff
    +5
    8 January 2013 13: 32
    Equipment is like equipment, nothing revolutionary or even calling it "the soldier of the future". It is sad that we consider the future to be what is already present in other armies. I saw a video report on this topic, it's funny to hear how an officer showing an electronic device three laptops thick calls it an ipad.
    The so-called "equipment of the future" is primarily new materials, protection, electronics (preferably more compact), which will allow the soldier to become a full-fledged unit. I hope so.
    1. +2
      8 January 2013 13: 58
      Quote from Sleptsoff
      it’s funny to listen to how an officer showing an electronic device with a thickness of three laptops calls him an ipad.

      I have not seen a video where the officer would mention the ipad. I doubt the iPad can be used in adverse real-world combat and weather conditions. Our device is quite compact and, for sure, the main requirement was sufficient strength. In other armies, "electronic" soldiers are not so commonplace. But ergonomic unloading armors-knee pads - yes, a thing in Western countries is now commonplace.
      1. 0
        8 January 2013 19: 43
        there was such a movie. I will not give a link on the move, it is necessary to search. our officer called the ipad touchscreen. this is because a military man is not a journalist. on the camera works taporno, although maybe the teacher is good, I do not exclude. it has been in our country since the time of "copier", and maybe even earlier. (a copier is a trademark, and we have the most widespread copier, in the 80s. from here copiers began to call copiers, regardless of the manufacturer. became a household name. here is the same song)
        shl. you can also recall the Vandals tribe and the modern meaning of the word.
  15. AndreyAB
    +2
    8 January 2013 14: 13
    the equipment is becoming more complicated and more expensive, the education of the soldiers is getting worse, there’s nothing to provide with this horseradish mob reserve and, in general, a soldier of the future is a well-forgotten soldier of the Red Army, maybe I'm wrong.
  16. +1
    8 January 2013 14: 42
    I really liked the appearance of the Bumblebee knife. I did not have to use a knife with a bayonet in battle, but I can’t even imagine how it is ??? .............. because it is logs, not a knife !!
    1. smprofi
      +2
      8 January 2013 15: 32
      Quote: APASUS
      because it’s log

      why's that? because the Soviet development? or old?
      in battle, too. let's say: for "household" needs. no worse and no better than other knives. I can only say that of the "first" issues (probably until the mid-70s) bayonet knives were of better quality. those that came across in the mid-80s, under the AK-74 - these are the bad ones: either overheated or steel not in an arc, the blade broke at once.
      1. 0
        8 January 2013 16: 16
        Quote: smprofi
        why's that? because the Soviet development? or old?

        By the fact that in the USSR the middle option was chosen between a knife and a saw and scissors. I have a claim for the design, and even the quality in the 80s was disgusting.
      2. +3
        8 January 2013 16: 20
        A good AKM bayonet is a rarity. Cut wires under current, household, etc. functions spoiling the usability of the device. Geometry initially suffers from versatility and is too complex for the material used.
        sad
        1. smprofi
          0
          8 January 2013 16: 53
          APASUS и Astrey, maybe you are right. I'm not a fan of melee weapons. and, to be honest, I don't really understand it. I can only say that it is hardly very bad for the "mass consumer" (form, versatility, etc.).
          that quality suffered in the 80s is not discussed. on shooting forums, for example, I met the opinion that SVD after the 1975 release is not a cake.
          as for the bayonet-knife in general ... I met somehow the information why there are no bayonet-knives in the Israeli army (well, maybe the speculation of the magazine):
          You poked a man with a bayonet in the stomach. muscles are reflexively compressed and it is problematic for a soldier who is not very physically strong to pull the bayonet back. need to shoot. Well, if you have to shoot, then why then do you need a bayonet?
          Well, if there is a bulletproof vest with a bayonet, the pipe generally turns out ...
      3. Fox
        +3
        8 January 2013 16: 52
        everything is very simple.: by the age of 80, the bayonet battle lost its relevance, classes were not held. unlike the trihedral bayonet. the bayonet penetrates the ribs very tightly when penetrated, so it is made to break so that the soldier doesn’t stay with his bare hands ... By the way, amers have a barrel with an end notch instead of a bayonet on m4.
        1. smprofi
          +1
          8 January 2013 17: 44
          Quote: Fox
          By the way, amers have a barrel with an end notch instead of a bayonet

          but about this miracle can be more detailed?
      4. Mgydvin
        0
        10 January 2013 02: 22
        Steel was designed for broken armor and breaking of the blade ...
  17. +1
    8 January 2013 15: 12
    Mouth Front.


    A beautiful knife. But I would call it "sting" or "spike" smile
    1. +4
      8 January 2013 17: 15
      Quote: Comrade1945
      or "shyp"

      "zhi", "shi" write with the letters ... "zh" and "w"? wink
    2. 0
      11 January 2013 09: 34
      The knife is not very good, but if the wavy blade or a kind of Indian dagger were slightly bent, another thing.
      A knife is like a knife, nothing special.
  18. smprofi
    +4
    8 January 2013 15: 25
    "Polygon" about "Warrior"

    1. +2
      8 January 2013 19: 51
      a movie about everything at once))))
      a good transfer is a polygon. but it would be better if they hadn't piled everything up. they would show both “with us” and “with them.” (as with helmets) but about canned food and other machine guns - the topic of individual programs. all the same they put on the air. there will be 100 series. (hopefully)
      1. +1
        8 January 2013 20: 31

        taken there
        http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27367/

        comment pleased !!!!!!!!!!!!! rzhunemagu)))))))))))

        edsw
        and where you can "download" this simulator
        zverevatatianateacher
        in the army laughing
    2. 0
      8 January 2013 20: 24
      Another video about the coming future in the army.

      1. ken
        ken
        0
        9 January 2013 08: 45
        Monkey and glasses, like Krylov. For example, you can simulate a situation when you land a Boeing with four engines in zero visibility with a maximum crosswind. Or with grenade launchers to meet the attack of heavy tanks, to emerge victorious in extremely unequal conditions. Of course, any teenager would have made this whole army in that game. On such attractions, it is necessary to simulate situations when, for example, you have a grenade launcher in ambush, and the tanks are going downhill, he fires a shot, they turn the towers towards him and roll like this (and the cannon does not go lower) and others meet them with their guns turned away grenade launchers and armored personnel carriers. Does this come over the years, that they sit there "drive" shoot at targets?
        This is all nonsense of course, no one rides in the field in tanks, at first they all scout it. What is he shooting at a tank that rides like a birthday?
        The most monstrous thing is when you realize that such toys cost the army. And how much they sawed and how much it costs.
      2. 0
        17 January 2013 20: 33
        Go gamers! You are not expected to serve the Motherland, but a game ... Enjoy!
    3. go
      0
      10 January 2013 00: 33
      Funny reporter - shot from the PM and with a cartridge in the chamber began to wave it in front of the camera. At one time, we sometimes had a foot for it for%; they beat us.

      The report is interesting - it is only doubtful that the soldiers will really buy these kits and in full force - how much do they cost? - I think at least 30 thousand. Generals are better at privatizing this money and building summer cottages ... control is needed and planting.
      1. Mgydvin
        0
        10 January 2013 03: 00
        from 300-full 500t.r do not want ... When the analogues were brought ... 1 a little n ... s did not receive for the fact that the antenna turned
  19. Mr. Truth
    +1
    8 January 2013 15: 48
    All the same, all the programs of the "soldier of the future" from any country will not make a big breakthrough.
    All this stomping on the spot and cutting money, for example, a helmet-mounted display for a soldier in the USA will cost about 5-6 thousand dollars! a computer will cost 10 thousand! what are these prices? Any tablet in a shielded shockproof case is more powerful and cheaper!
    Everything is the same with us.
    The most godless thing is tons of wires.
    1. +1
      8 January 2013 16: 13
      I also don’t understand why, given the general tendency to reduce the cost of electronic equipment, military electronics, on the contrary, are becoming more expensive, because it uses mostly the same component base.
      1. Mr. Truth
        0
        8 January 2013 18: 03
        savarineko,
        I agree, no one wants to make everything simple and cheap, they want to be daffodils with high tech, wires and other bowel movements.
    2. Eric
      0
      9 January 2013 04: 04
      That's just the point, I suppose, the level of protection is not only mechanical but also electronic a little more serious. Although who knows.
  20. Alek IV
    +2
    8 January 2013 16: 02
    The article is useful, although I would like more details.
    I want to shout: Hurray, we will have a new form. But, remembering how much they shouted before, I’ll wait for joy.
    Of course, we need such a kit, especially in terms of defense and armament, we will not talk about electronics (it wants the best, but it’s worthless to fight without communication), and it is needed yesterday, and not tomorrow, the day after tomorrow. And in general, the most valuable thing in the war is people, moreover trained, without them any protective kit is a pile of rubbish.
  21. +1
    8 January 2013 16: 37
    "Barmitsa" - yesterday, "Warrior" - today, some "Traveler" - tomorrow. Constant suction of money from the state, but things are still there. Moreover, officers will be offered to buy it for their salaries.
  22. atomic
    0
    8 January 2013 17: 31
    In terms of innovation, this kit lacks riding breeches and a musketeer's cloak. Although some elements deserve attention, for example, a helmet, as well as a weight of -5 kg ​​from foreign counterparts, the camo is not bad.
    1. +1
      8 January 2013 18: 25
      In innovation, yes, you're right. But from the point of view of nanotechnology, I would add a nanotrusel!
  23. DuraLexSedLex.
    0
    8 January 2013 20: 14
    To me alone this phrase warms my soul
    "Today, apparently, the main military department has decided to finally abandon the order of foreign combat kits for the needs of the Russian army and, at the same time, to intensify test actions in relation to the Russian-made kit."
  24. porfirev
    0
    8 January 2013 20: 52
    On the two extreme pictures is the AEK assault rifle?
    Was it really adopted?
    1. Mr. Truth
      +1
      8 January 2013 21: 14
      Quote: porfirev
      AEK?

      no 107th Kalash.
      1. +1
        8 January 2013 22: 42
        On the two extreme pictures is the AEK assault rifle? Was it really adopted?

        Alas and AH, but no ... Here AEK


        AK 107 assault rifle with an experimental magazine for 60 rounds, butt folded

        AK 107 assault rifle with a magazine for 30 rounds, the stock is folded

        Incomplete disassembly of the AK 107 assault rifle, nearby 60 round magazine
        As part of the "hundredth" series, Izhevsk designers implemented the backlog of experienced systems. These are AK 107 assault rifles (designed by Yu.K. Aleksandrov and V.N. Paranin) chambered for 5,45x39 and AK 108 for 5,56x45. In them, to increase the accuracy and accuracy of automatic firing, balanced automation with separated masses and a gas engine was used (earlier, Yu.K. Aleksandrov and VM Kalashnikov developed several automatic machines of a balanced circuit at Izhmash).

        Powder gases are discharged into the gas chamber with two cylinders and act on two separate opposing pistons. Two masses at extreme points create oppositely directed inertial moments, and since their movement is synchronized, the pulse generated in a conventional system by a gas outlet unit is suppressed. Under the action of the return mechanism, both masses simultaneously return to their original position, so that the rolling impulse of the mobile system is also largely extinguished. As a result, in accuracy of firing bursts from unstable positions, the AK 107 surpasses the AK 74M by 1,5-2 times.

        The stroke length of the movable system is less than that of the “classic” circuit machine, this increased the rate of fire. The geometry of the receiver’s window, the mounting of the receiver’s cover and the sector sight have changed. The channel and chamber of the barrel are chrome-plated.

        The trigger allows three fire modes: continuous fire, in fixed bursts of three rounds, single.

        Folding stock, forend and pistol grip are similar to AK 74M, there is a bar for mounting optical and night sights, it is possible to install a grenade launcher, bayonet-knife.

        A box-shaped four-row magazine for 60 rounds was also developed.
        1. +1
          9 January 2013 05: 19
          balanced automation operation scheme that AK-107 / AK-108 has, that AEK has the same (who, what, who does not understand it, although it is quite possible that they could independently come to the same scheme) ...

          Although to be honest, I like AEK more, especially 973.
          1. 0
            11 January 2013 09: 36
            Interestingly, how did you solve the problem of maintaining a barrel with a 60-round horn?
          2. Joker
            0
            15 January 2013 20: 12
            AEK with balanced automation appeared much earlier than AK.

            As far as I remember, he already participated in the Abakan topic, according to which the AK-74 was adopted.
            1. 0
              17 January 2013 11: 56
              The AN-94 won the competition, for which it received the name "Abakan", if AEK appeared earlier than the AK-107, this does not mean that it is better, AEK is capricious and unreliable in terms of reliability, even Nikonov's log does, although it cannot boast of reliability itself.
              1. +1
                17 January 2013 20: 45
                I did not like Abakan: very complex, a lot of levers and cables, the store looks away. This machine is not for the mass soldier. Maybe for special forces ...
                1. 0
                  18 January 2013 11: 40
                  whatever one may say, but at the competition he was recognized as the best, but for the sake of 2 shots it is of course epic to wind up such difficulties, but in the future the system may become the main one, or its elements ... remember the history of AK creation, there are a lot of honestly slammed ones elements from other weapons and Mikhail Timofeevich himself acknowledges this.
                  1. Joker
                    0
                    9 February 2013 01: 13
                    Quote: cth; fyn
                    cth; fyn


                    - the AN-94 system is very complex, and according to the reviews of those who are personally familiar with the machine, the machine
                    can claim maximum for a certain niche in special forces.

                    - about the AEK machine, again according to reviews, it is quite reliable (we do not take the first series).

                    PS about the AN-94, looking at it in a disassembled form, to a person even with an average
                    special education will show the extreme complexity of this product,
                    and for at least a little familiar with the weapon, the difficulty of cleaning will again become apparent
                    this product in the field. You are apparently neither the first nor the second types of people
                    do not concern.

                    Unassembled AN-94 Abakan assault rifle
                    1. 0
                      9 February 2013 10: 36
                      And you along the way do not belong to attentive readers.
                      in the future, the system can become the main one, or its elements

                      In this phrase, I expressed my opinion about the Academy of Sciences, and as you see, I do not consider the machine brought, but I hint that the thing is necessary in terms of design search and later experience gained in the design and operation of this sample can migrate to a new project, what happened with AEK when its balanced automation hit the AK.
                      By the way, about AEK, I heard just the opposite, that the weapon is very moody to pollution.
                      When I talked about the fact that the Academy of Sciences cannot boast of reliability, I remembered a case at the exhibition when he was simply "pulled" and he jammed. Yes, the system is complicated, but can you give AEK for comparison and take a look at this "reliable" miracle?

                      And you along the way do not belong to attentive readers.
                      in the future, the system can become the main one, or its elements

                      In this phrase, I expressed my opinion about the Academy of Sciences, and as you see, I do not consider the machine brought, but I hint that the thing is necessary in terms of design search and later experience gained in the design and operation of this sample can migrate to a new project, what happened with AEK when its balanced automation hit the AK.
                      By the way, about AEK, I heard just the opposite, that the weapon is very moody to pollution.
                      When I talked about the fact that the Academy of Sciences cannot boast of reliability, I remembered a case at the exhibition when he was simply "pulled" and he jammed. Yes, the system is complicated, but can you give AEK for comparison and take a look at this "reliable" miracle?

                      And you along the way do not belong to attentive readers.
                      in the future, the system can become the main one, or its elements

                      In this phrase, I expressed my opinion about the Academy of Sciences, and as you see, I do not consider the machine brought, but I hint that the thing is necessary in terms of design search and later experience gained in the design and operation of this sample can migrate to a new project, what happened with AEK when its balanced automation hit the AK.
                      By the way, about AEK, I heard just the opposite, that the weapon is very moody to pollution.
                      When I talked about the fact that the Academy of Sciences cannot boast of reliability, I remembered a case at the exhibition when he was simply "pulled" and he jammed. Yes, the system is complicated, but can you give AEK for comparison and take a look at this "reliable" miracle?
                      1. Joker
                        0
                        16 February 2013 09: 43
                        Quote: cth; fyn
                        cth; fyn


                        If we take the general scheme, then AEK is characterized by the absence of small parts, as well as wheels and cables, which is present in the AN-94. Perhaps someone faced the unreliable work of AEK, but I do not have such data. If you wish, you can find the circuit of the machine yourself.
                        And the meaning of what I said is that before talking about the prospects of the applied solutions of a product, it is necessary to take into account many aspects, including factors such as operation (in relation to weapons - disassembly-cleaning-assembly). Good luck.
  25. +2
    8 January 2013 21: 26
    Experiencing ... WONDERFUL ... but a huge question ... WHERE ??? In the suburbs !!!! Now everyone knows why in a new uniform the soldiers are freezing ... FOR THE URALS. They are in Khakassia ... where in the summer for 40, and now in the winter for -40 and the wind ... the wind ... and it’s not a hassle to run through the mountains .. ... everything is there ... in place.
    1. 0
      11 January 2013 09: 37
      Yes, our climate is cool, but we need to send current to Tiksi or to Yamal ...
  26. +2
    8 January 2013 23: 19
    Here is the gear of the future (taken from the MechWarrior game).

    Here's another one from there.
    1. +3
      9 January 2013 02: 00
      Here is the gear of the future (taken from the MechWarrior game).

      this is the tank of the future, but the equipment:

      Here is the aircraft carrier of the future:


      But BMP (aka infantry support tank):
      1. +4
        9 January 2013 03: 13
        I also have in the archive. Russian soldier
        1. Alex 241
          +4
          9 January 2013 03: 16
          Lesh is a masterpiece for me, and that’s it!
          1. Alex 241
            +3
            9 January 2013 03: 19
            Do the Americans and then die, we die, but do it!
            1. +3
              9 January 2013 03: 28
              ..........................................
              1. Alex 241
                0
                9 January 2013 03: 33
                I'm a Russian soldier
                (September 25, 2010 22:59 p.m. / 319181)



                In the city of Kuznetsk, Penza region, a monument was unveiled to a soldier who, already today, for his deed, was glorified in the face of martyrs. Evgeny Rodionov in 1996 was captured by Chechen fighters. In exchange for freedom, he was offered to switch from Orthodoxy to another faith, but even after torture, he refused to remove the pectoral cross and went on a brutal death.




                The author could not come to the opening of the monument - the service is holding, the church. The idea of ​​the monument belongs to the priest from Ukrainian Donetsk, Father Sergius. The monument to the soldier Yevgeny Rodionov, tortured in Chechen captivity, was lit today in his small homeland in Kuznetsk.
                There were no such military monuments in Russia: a soldier with a cross in the flame of a candle. The monument to Yevgeny Rodionov was opened in front of the school, which also bears his name. In the local museum they say: the believer Zhenya asked for the “hot spot” himself.




                Zhenya was born at half past midnight on May 23, 1977. The birth was not difficult. Zhenya was a strong, healthy child, height 52 cm, weight 3900. When I heard his first cry, the cry that "I have come to this world, meet me, love me", such a sigh of relief escaped, and his gaze fell by accident on the window. It was deep night, a dark sky, on which there are bright large stars, and at that moment a star suddenly began to fall across the sky. I turned pale, my heart became a small, cold and for some reason a shaggy lump. Doctors and nurses began to convince me that this is a good sign, which means that the child will have a good fate, and so will I. But the feeling of danger, fear, tense expectation of something did not leave me for a very long time. Then somehow everything was forgotten, and I remembered after nineteen years.
                1. Alex 241
                  +1
                  9 January 2013 03: 35
                  ... 18-year-old Yevgeny Rodionov, along with three more soldiers, was captured on the night of February 13-14 near the village of Galashki. The guys, just a month before that arrived at the location of the unit from the Kaliningrad region, were on guard duty at the Chechen-Ingush border. An open PKK (checkpoint) was two hundred meters from the outpost. A small booth - without communications and light, without any fire support - on the only "road of life" in the mountains, along which weapons, ammunition, prisoners, drugs were transported ... From an ambulance that arrived, which the border guards stopped for inspection, suddenly "orderlies" jumped out in camouflage - more than a dozen Chechens armed to the teeth. It was not difficult for these thugs to cope with the still unfired youths. Although, recalls, Lyubov Vasilievna, “even two weeks after this incident, a spot of blood on the road did not completely fall asleep with snow. Traces of the struggle were visible there - that it was not like the chickens that left them in the car ... ” Mother believes that the guys suffered largely due to the negligence of officers.
                  And then the captivity began. “Captivity from time immemorial was considered the most terrible thing that can happen to a person. Captivity is bondage, it is bullying. Life has shown that the Chechen captivity is the worst, most inhuman, savage that can even be in the world ... ”, says Lyubov Rodionova.
                  “Mom, nobody has ever left fate. I can go on the road, and a car will crush me. Will it make it any easier for you? And captivity ... captivity - this is how lucky ... "- said the son before the farewell of his mother.
                  And as soon as she found out, she had been looking for Zhenya for ten months throughout Chechnya. “I had to go through all the torments, all the circles of hell, which there are on the earth that a person could invent. It can be seen that the Lord led me along the roads where I walked and did not blow up, although there were more mines than stones. It can be seen that He protected me from the bombing, did not give me the opportunity to die, considered that it was my duty, the duty of my mother, to find my son, to bury him in my native land; to bury as our grandfathers and great-grandfathers buried, according to the Christian tradition, with the tradition of the earth. That I only now understood everything, and then, when I walked along the military roads, I only silently prayed to the Lord ... "
                  Chechen thugs killed Yevgeny Rodionov on May 23, 1996, on the Ascension Day, in the Chechen village of Bamut. On the day of death, Eugene had a birthday - he was just 19 years old. Mother didn’t have time a little - then she was some seven kilometers from the place of execution. And Russian troops took Bamut - the next day.
                  Mother could not learn about the death of her son only in September. To find Eugene’s body and then take it out, along with the other dead comrades, to her homeland, she had to lay her own apartment. Many photographs of her son were distributed by Lyubov Vasilievna to Chechen intermediaries, hoping to find out at least something. For crazy money, one of the Chechens agreed to indicate the place of burial.
                  “When I arrived at the end of February, an ordinary soldier, alive, was worth 10 million. In August, an ordinary soldier, alive, was worth 50 million when they were already in the role of winner. Melikhova was asked for 250 million for her son, because he is an officer. It was already night when I, with the sappers, stealthily dug a hole in the headlights, into which the bodies of four children were thrown. I stood and only prayed that Zhenya would not be among them. I could not, did not want to believe that he was killed. They took out the remains - one, then another. I already recognized his boots, worn in the way that only he wore, but said everything: "I will not believe if you do not find the bridegroom cross." And when someone shouted: “Cross, cross!” - I lost consciousness. ”
                  1. Alex 241
                    +4
                    9 January 2013 03: 37
                    ... The murderer of Evgeny Rodionov was Ruslan Khaikhoroyev. In the end, he himself admitted this - his mother literally experienced this admission in the presence of the OSCE foreign representative Lenard: “My son had a choice to stay alive,” said Khaikhoroyev. - He could change the faith, but he did not want to remove the cross from himself. He tried to escape ... ”(Khaikhoroyev, along with his bodyguards, was killed in an intra-Chechen bandit showdown on August 23, 1999 - exactly three years and three months after the death of Yevgeny Rodionov.)




                    When Lyubov Vasilievna returned home, on the 5th day after the funeral, father Eugene, who did not leave his son’s grave, died - his heart could not stand it. And Eugene himself that very night, after the requiem, dreamed of his mother. According to her, already "joyful and radiant."
                    ***
                    Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov, the acting chairman of the Moscow Patriarchate’s department for cooperation with the Armed Forces, says that "the issue of canonizing Private Evgeny Rodionov will be resolved positively - this is a matter of time." A request for this has already been made to the Synodal Commission for Canonization, however, additional information is needed on the fate of the courageous border guard. According to father Dmitry, as soon as they are received, canonization will take place. Across Russia, there are already more than one and a half hundred iconographic images. In two churches - in Altai and in Ukrainian Donetsk - the icons were pacified. He is rather a national hero. Evgeny Rodionov is not officially canonized. According to church canons, not enough time has passed - 15 years.
                    The Orthodox soldier is considered a venerable saint. His icons are not only in Russian churches, but also in Serbia, where he is called Eugene Russian. But for the mother is not the main thing. Ever since she lost her son, Lyubov Vasilievna tried to help strangers: she brought food and things to soldiers in Chechnya.
                    Lyubov Rodionova, mother of Evgeny Rodionov: “I am glad that the name of Zhenya has helped to collect help for Chechnya all these years. It was so, it is true. 55 trips to Chechnya were collected not by me so pretty, but precisely by his name. And he will be canonized, will not - but did he think about it. ”




                    Border guards, paratroopers, infantry, veterans of Chechnya and Afghanistan, and combat officers of the Alpha group arrived today to pay tribute to the soldier. Military people have their own criteria for holiness. The monument to the Orthodox soldier is also a tribute to all fighters who died in captivity. Now at the entrance to the school where Eugene studied, a memorial plaque of the border guard hero was erected. A documentary dedicated to him has been released. The pectoral cross of Yevgeny Rodionov was given by his mother to the church of St. Nicholas in Pyzhi and is stored in the Altar. And on the cross installed above the grave there is an inscription: “Here lies the Russian soldier Yevgeny Rodionov, who defended the Fatherland and did not renounce Christ, who was executed near Bamut on May 23, 1996.”
                    People come here and people go.




                    “We know that these were long, terrible sufferings, which can be compared, probably, only with the sufferings of the great martyrs, which happened in the most ancient times, when they were dismembered, beheaded, subjected to the most sophisticated tortures, but they testified to the world that the soul, and the body are involved in the Cross of Christ, the victory of God, His Resurrection ”(Father Alexander Shargunov, from a sermon on a memorial service on the day of memory of Yevgeny Rodionov).
                    1. Alex 241
                      +1
                      9 January 2013 03: 40
                      I will add Evgeni Rodionov is considered the patron saint of the Russian Federation.
            2. 0
              9 January 2013 05: 29
              Alex 241,
              Do the Americans and then die, we die, but do it!

              Namesake, Die but do, at this time is not the order to be expected from the command (because such an order is given out of hopelessness, when there is no intelligence, there is no support for artillery or aviation), it is not relevant at the moment (we don’t, alas USSR, and the Russian Federation), it should be like this - Do it and RETURN ALIVE and Bring Fighters ALIVE!
  27. bremest
    +1
    9 January 2013 00: 26
    Do not scold the bayonet-knife towards the AK. It is needed for hand-to-hand combat as the last argument when the cartridges ran out. Also needed to snack on barbed wire or live cable. And then I remember they opened the cans with the stew very well ..))))) If there is something better, then this is only welcome !!!
  28. ken
    ken
    0
    9 January 2013 08: 29
    This soldier has some kind of matna unfastened and from there the device opens. When it falls, it will beat off everything in the world and break the device. Are the seams glued to this uniform, sewn twice? Has anyone sat in these clothes, in the country of the tundra, at - 40 in an open field for at least two days? The device must be hung on the sleeve and made protection so that it would not have to be pulled out and cast out, to look - I raised my hand to my eyes, as time looked. And it looks ugly. In general, it is unclear how even to stand in such a uniform for three hours, and unfortunately it all looks extremely unprofessional. It looks like the laundering of trillions released to the army.
  29. asf32wesdg
    0
    10 January 2013 18: 40
    It just can't be !!! The FSB has created this http://sho.rtlink.de/FS62Am database about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries. Really was really scared
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos of a different nature) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...
  30. +1
    11 January 2013 09: 46
    The equipment is good, I have been following it for a long time as far as possible.
    Someone asked what is the use of exoskeletons? you see the stalker did not play? a walking tank that does not know fatigue and problems with ammunition, armor of a class above 6a (somewhere in the vicinity of the DShK with 100m), the ability to fire from a machine gun as from a machine gun, and from a machine gun like from a machine gun, the ability to move at a speed of under 40km / h, well, read other fiction Lem or Strugatsky ...
  31. +1
    13 January 2013 04: 19
    everything is beautiful, except for the helmet, why not introduce a helmet for everyone in the shape of a "skat" ... fuck these unsuccessful enemy copies of "ala-cheburator" !!!
  32. 0
    9 February 2013 10: 40
    the AN-94 system is very complex, and according to the reviews of those who are personally familiar with the machine, the machine
    can claim maximum for a certain niche in special forces.

    - about the AEK machine, again according to reviews, it is quite reliable (we do not take the first series).

    PS about the AN-94, looking at it in a disassembled form, to a person even with an average
    special education will show the extreme complexity of this product,
    and for at least a little familiar with the weapon, the difficulty of cleaning will again become apparent
    this product in the field. You are apparently neither the first nor the second types of people
    do not concern.

    And you along the way do not belong to attentive readers.
    in the future, the system can become the main one, or its elements

    In this phrase, I expressed my opinion about the Academy of Sciences, and as you see, I do not consider the machine brought, but I hint that the thing is necessary in terms of design search and later experience gained in the design and operation of this sample can migrate to a new project, what happened with AEK when its balanced automation hit the AK.
    By the way, about AEK, I heard just the opposite, that the weapon is very moody to pollution.
    When I talked about the fact that the Academy of Sciences cannot boast of reliability, I remembered a case at the exhibition when he was simply "pulled" and he jammed. Yes, the system is complex, but can you give AEK for comparison and take a look at this "reliable" miracle?
  33. Vinogradov
    +4
    15 March 2013 21: 45
    It remains to reckon that the developers will bring down all the roughness, and the Russian army will receive a truly convenient and effective kit for use in various conditions.
  34. smershspy
    +2
    April 24 2013 14: 17
    Quote: Alexander
    They have some kind of weird facial expressions.


    Just clothes probably uncomfortable and heavy! Where are the modern materials! Such ammunition is easier to buy in a regular army store! Only equipment and boots for the army are produced in the USA, and they buy everything else! Why create a bike, it has long been created! You just need to use the money correctly!
  35. smershspy
    +4
    April 24 2013 14: 25
    Everything that they have shown and told here is already used in most countries of the world and this is no longer the future, but most likely the past! I can buy such a form, and most likely I will spend less money than they on "creating" it. You just need to take and analyze the materials of military uniforms from different countries of the world and draw certain conclusions! If I tell you what to do, then why create special design bureaus if they don't want to work there. They are engaged in copying the form and receive money for it, either "WARRIOR" or "CONCEPT". You just have to work professionally, and not do ... you know what ... No words! They spend the budget on it!
  36. 0
    April 13 2014 09: 30
    it is necessary to make a mini-periscope sight so that it could be attached to binoculars, so the bead will turn out to be a soldier’s simple, and it’s convenient to shoot the corner!
  37. YUR_VAS
    0
    24 September 2014 11: 41
    In general, as for today / tomorrow - the norm :) but the day after tomorrow ...: -P
    And in general, uniforms / equipment of money are worth ...