A Russian military correspondent spoke about the sloppiness of individual military personnel and the importance of frugality in war

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A Russian military correspondent spoke about the sloppiness of individual military personnel and the importance of frugality in war

Since the beginning of the SVO in Ukraine, we have often heard reproaches to the authorities and military leadership of Russia regarding supplies to the Armed Forces, armament of fighters and other shortcomings. At the same time, few people paid attention to such an unpleasant side as the sloppiness of individual ordinary military personnel

Moreover, if the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, to one degree or another, nevertheless drew conclusions, correcting a considerable part of the violations and errors, then there are still problems with the above-mentioned factor in the troops.



Russian military correspondent Alexander Sladkov spoke about several cases of sloppiness in his TG channel.

In particular, about the arrival of volunteers in the Northeast Military District zone from a distant region of Russia (which one exactly is not mentioned in the message).

The people involved in the preparation and dispatch of the fighters reported that they were fully equipped. At the same time, the defenders of the Motherland arrived at their destination, as Sladkov put it, looking like beggars.

During the trial, it turned out that during the long journey, the future fighters managed to drink away all the goods given to them. A separate question is where the commanders were looking, and where the careless military personnel were able to sell the equipment. Apparently, work for the military prosecutor's office.

Another incident, according to the military correspondent, occurred in one of the border regions, whose leaders bought several Niva cars for the needs of the Northern Military District. At the same time, the defenders who got the transport very quickly disabled it, even without participating in hostilities.

Who is to blame in such cases? The rear of the Armed Forces? Sponsors? This is “there is war here”, this is not about combat losses, this is about sloppiness

- summed up Sladkov.

The military correspondent added that soldiers do not always have everything they need to care for weapons and ammunition. Meanwhile, many attack aircraft and intelligence officers buy weapons care products with their own money. Some of the fighters acquire better quality shoes and ammunition.

At the same time, there are many who treat the army property already issued to them according to the principle “not mine, don’t mind,” which distinguishes a careless serviceman from a responsible one.

After all, often even responsible conduct of everyday life, proper arrangement of the dugout, keeping the machine gun in order, the presence of an additional horn with cartridges, and a warm sleeping bag can give an advantage to the LBS. These seem to be truisms, but nevertheless, as it turns out, they are not for everyone.
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  1. +24
    26 September 2023 16: 54
    During the trial, it turned out that during the long journey, the future fighters managed to drink away all the goods given to them.
    So what's the problem? Let them pay three prices of “sold and drunk” and get something new.
    I remember in the times of the USSR, during the Second World War, from some categories of military personnel they charged a price 10 times higher... “Beating determines consciousness,” and those who are “dull” will remain must be determined in “Sturm-Z” for a couple of months, fortunately no court decision is required for this
    1. +18
      26 September 2023 16: 58
      why three, subtract “lost in a non-combat situation” from the salary. Yes, probably over hundreds of years they have already figured out how to act in this case in the army...
      1. +10
        26 September 2023 17: 04
        Quote from Constantin N.
        why three, subtract “lost in a non-combat situation” from the salary. Yes, probably over hundreds of years they have already figured out how to act in this case in the army...

        Of course they came up with it. Even under the tsar, there were such problems, soldiers in military trains drank their boots during stops, they were given bast shoes in return, so they came to the unit, hence the “bast army.”
        1. +3
          27 September 2023 06: 50
          This also happened under tsarism during the First World War.....
          They flogged us and stopped drinking. This, of course, is not our method. What did they do at Wagner? what wink
          1. +2
            28 September 2023 05: 50
            How did they do it at Wagner? According to the nephew’s story, in Syria one such huckster was shot in the leg and sent home for treatment at his own expense. They were deprived of all payments. By the way, when the nephew returned from Syria, he was wearing nothing from the army. The helmet was South Korean. There were a couple of armored ones. The silencer for the weapon was a trophy one. I bought boots for 19 thousand. Five magazines of different capacities. I agreed with someone about the “warrior” armor plates. I calculated it offhand; he spent almost a lemon on his equipment. In Wagner from the very beginning. Something like this
      2. Uno
        +2
        26 September 2023 18: 52
        We need to look a little wider. How do you imagine that? This equipment was transferred as a gift from civilians, consider it a gift (the leaders of which bought several Niva cars for the needs of the Northern Military District), this equipment is probably not on the lists of the Ministry of Defense and you can’t collect from someone the cost of something that, in fact, is not present in your troops will not work
        1. +3
          26 September 2023 19: 04
          Quote from Uno
          We need to look a little wider. How do you imagine that? This equipment was given as a gift from civilians, consider it a gift

          Well, now you can drink it.
          1. -18
            26 September 2023 19: 20
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Well, now you can drink it.

            Does anyone else believe Sladkov? He’s a buffoon and not a military correspondent, or he’s carrying out someone’s order.
            Although there are exceptions everywhere. and I think that everything described is an exception to the rule. Isolated cases.
            1. +5
              27 September 2023 06: 09
              You can't imagine how many wars Sladkov has seen!
              1. -4
                27 September 2023 07: 56
                You can't imagine how many wars Sladkov has seen!
                And you won’t even imagine how many times he buried Pacific Fleet Marines. Piarist, makes his name by exaggerating shortcomings.
              2. +1
                27 September 2023 10: 47
                In one of his comments in Telega, Sladkov said that he is very dependent, because... he has a mortgage and a lot of financial obligations, so he is forced to give reports that are not entirely true.
              3. -1
                27 September 2023 14: 32
                Let's drink Sladkov))))

                Anything can happen in war. Both good and bad.
                Scale and ratio are important.

                For example, they drank one Niva and stole a hundred. This means there is a bias towards corruption.

                If you drink a hundred cars and steal one, that’s sloppiness.

                Both these phenomena are bad.
            2. +4
              27 September 2023 09: 13
              Does anyone else believe Sladkov?
              Well, for example, I believe Sladkov, because... We studied with him in the same school, at first even in the same company. And I know that he went through so many hot spots that some people never even dreamed of. And who are you, a good citizen, that you throw around such words? What kind of person are you that you can so indiscriminately vilify a person with abusive words?
            3. +2
              27 September 2023 10: 07
              Whether they are isolated or not, only those who are there can judge. According to friends and relatives who have been fighting since February 22, most of the losses and injuries are from carelessness. To the point of “wearing an armored armor.”
    2. +6
      26 September 2023 17: 03
      Quote: svp67
      and those who remain “unintelligible” must be assigned to “Sturm-Z” for a couple of months, fortunately this does not require a court decision

      Hello Sergey!
      I think that Sturm-Z won’t take someone like that. Do they need it, this kind of “good”? Let them answer with money. This also comes to mind well.
      1. -1
        28 September 2023 06: 49
        There are criminals in the Storm-Z units. They themselves are still “good”. I had a chance to meet them and I know what I’m talking about.
    3. +15
      26 September 2023 17: 17
      For drunkenness in war, you generally need to punch their faces! Such a drunkard in battle will expose his entire unit to fire, people will die because someone, even in a war, cannot live without drinking!
      1. +5
        26 September 2023 17: 32
        For drunkenness in war, you should actually hit them in the face!
        What do you want from a large number of civilian recruits, and a week later, or even immediately sent to LBS.
        1. +5
          26 September 2023 18: 20
          Quote: Trapp1st
          What do you want from a large number of civilian recruits?

          Cleaning small arms - alkaline and neutral oil, rags, cleaning rod, accessories in a pencil case. Cleaning a gun barrel - instead of a shell, they loaded a loaf of black bread, a shot, and the rest with a bannik. Or is there no one to teach? And is there no one to supervise the cleaning of weapons? What about the appearance? I'm not even talking about drinking and drug addiction! A sober person has a hundred times more chance of staying alive than someone with their brains blown out. By the way, a good remedy for drunkenness is a 5 km march, wearing gas masks. wassat
          1. +3
            26 September 2023 18: 23
            Quote: fif21
            Quote: Trapp1st
            What do you want from a large number of civilian recruits?

            Cleaning small arms - alkaline and neutral oil, rags, cleaning rod, accessories in a pencil case. Cleaning a gun barrel - instead of a shell, they loaded a loaf of black bread, a shot, and the rest with a bannik. Or is there no one to teach? And is there no one to supervise the cleaning of weapons? What about the appearance? I'm not even talking about drinking and drug addiction! A sober person has a hundred times more chance of staying alive than someone with their brains blown out. By the way, a good remedy for drunkenness is a 5 km march, wearing gas masks. wassat

            So there was no one who could make sure that people during redeployment did not drink away military property. And you are here for training. Hah. wassat
            1. +1
              26 September 2023 21: 15
              Quote: BlackMokona
              So there was no one who could make sure that people during redeployment did not drink away military property.

              If I sell a working car in civilian life, I will be imprisoned at the request of the owner. Why should it be any different in the army? The chief's report, and an introduction to the military prosecutor's office! hi
          2. -1
            27 September 2023 15: 59
            Quote: fif21
            Cleaning a gun barrel - loaded a loaf of black bread instead of a shell, shot, the rest with a bannik

            I’m wondering: is it true or fiction about pushing birch wood (fresh, sanded) through the entire bore (in order to clean the channels)?
            /not for the sake of self-interest, but just to broaden one’s horizons/
            1. +2
              27 September 2023 23: 51
              It’s a hassle—cutting a birch tree, sanding the wood, then pushing it through with blows. There is a bathhouse, a cleaning solution, and rags. Unfortunately, however, I observe that the equipment is not cleaned. Spill, corrosion, carbon deposits in the barrel - bad!
            2. -1
              28 September 2023 18: 51
              Quote: Reindeer herder_2
              I’m wondering: is it true or fiction about pushing birch wood (fresh, sanded) through the entire bore (in order to clean the channels)?

              I haven't seen anything like this. hi
    4. +5
      26 September 2023 17: 35
      Duck what's the problem?

      This is how the problem is outlined - the commanders don’t give a damn about anything, just like the leadership of the Ministry of Defense as a whole.
      And you only offer a solution to a specific problem that has arisen.
    5. -3
      26 September 2023 17: 35
      That's right, we now have complete capitalism. I apologize, here in peace, such a soldier. Get a job, say, as an installer. If someone loses an instrument due to his own stupidity, will someone be tempted to give him a new one? Avothren. He will buy it for his own and exactly the same, okay, you can’t fire him from the army, but you can keep him. And right up to disbat, if you are a conscript. The double bass is generally a copy of the hired employee.
      By the way, for the same reason, I don’t see anything wrong with people buying “better” ones for their own. I have a mounting knife, by the way, it costs 12 rubles - the knife is simple, not a show-off, but very good - damn what office in the world will give it to you - it is unreasonably expensive. But it’s more pleasant for me to work with them, nothing, I don’t squeal, why should a soldier squeal, and even more so a military blooper instead of a soldier, if, for example, someone bought himself an assault grip? Some people are more comfortable with it, I haven’t understood them all my life - it’s just in the way, a bastard, but since it’s more convenient for him, he bought it, why raise a squeal?
      The same about "banks". In peacetime, a conscript, like his commander, privateer, and in general everyone up to the Minister of Defense, DO NOT need banks! There are only problems - excess weight, excess price, dimensions - why is it?! By the way, I believe that mattresses with standard cans on new machines will still cost you a lot wink
      Quote: Thrifty
      For drunkenness in war, you should actually hit them in the face!

      That's how they beat me in the militia, at the very beginning - it helped. At first, even the drunken ones ran around, but that was only at first. But about drinking away the equipment, it really wasn’t a big deal - I’ve never even heard of that)))
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    7. +3
      26 September 2023 17: 37
      This military commander is a provocateur! Slanderer! We all stand for traditional values! And for a soldier to drink away government property is just such a value! Tradition! Clamp! laughing
    8. +1
      27 September 2023 08: 54
      Quote: svp67
      During the trial, it turned out that during the long journey, the future fighters managed to drink away all the goods given to them.
      Duck what's the problem?

      The problem is actually in the candidate selection process. In Soviet times, the border troops had a rather strict system for selecting even ordinary conscripts. No wonder they were called “political troops” of the KGB of the USSR. Ordinary teenagers were tested, including through counterintelligence. I served in the Central Asian District (KSAPO) towards the end of the Soviet Union and saw with my own eyes the process of degradation in the selection of conscripts. Every six months, people came to the training center less and less prepared, both in terms of health and moral qualities. But it was hard to imagine something like this now. The selection of volunteers needs to be tightened so that later the command does not have a headache from problems with rowdies and looters.
      1. -1
        28 September 2023 06: 59
        The problem is that if we tighten the selection now, there will simply be no one left to fight. Therefore, to increase the maximum number, they take everyone, even without medical examinations. At the moment, I have already had the opportunity to quickly evaluate newly recruited contract soldiers. They even take people over 60 years old - where do they go? They sit in the unit, wait on board for the “ribbon”, and when they are told the departure date, they immediately run to the infirmary and visit all the doctors, in the hope that some kind of sore will be discovered. And the happy ones stay for treatment.
  2. +5
    26 September 2023 16: 57
    the future fighters managed, as it happened, to drink away all the goods given to them
    This happened during WWII.
    1. +4
      26 September 2023 17: 37
      The society is very similar to that in the decline of the Empire. If only the end was not similar..
      1. -1
        27 September 2023 19: 32
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        The society is very similar to that in the decline of the Empire. If only the end was not similar..

        what?
        shoot the king again sad
  3. +19
    26 September 2023 16: 57
    Is there a soft suggestion that everything volunteered should be “transferred to the balance of the RF Ministry of Defense” and then like “all transport will be in order”? Was it the military personnel at the front who sold new tires and installed bald ones that are impossible to drive? As for the Niva, for such negligence, there is someone to strain the slobs and “ask”, but it seems to me that these are all scarecrows dictated by the economic unit of the RF Ministry of Defense. There is a war going on. Big. Bloody. People give their lives at the front and to blame them for getting drunk in the rear or crashing their car on the way to LBS or from there is immoral! It would be better to attack “domestic manufacturers” of vehicles and ammunition with the question WHERE?!!! WHERE the hell are thousands of NIVs and ATVs for the front at a divine price and with light armor? Where is the ammunition not from the PRC, but your own, dear, not passed through the multiplying tax calculator and the Ministry of Industry and Trade??? And then you can demand from the guys from the front... first, provide the front with 2-3 times the quantity exceeding today's need!
    1. 0
      28 September 2023 07: 07
      In our brigade, drivers repair all vehicles at their own expense (purchase of parts, etc.), and those who refuse are transferred to attack aircraft. All available cars were received from humanitarian aid; not a single one was issued by the Ministry of Defense. During mobilization, they gave me an old uniform from 2014 - they said it was for training, they would give me a new one at the front, they deceived me. In addition to the poor SIBZ: “Module-Monolith” and “Kolpak-20”, the only equipment they gave out was one old canvas pouch for 4 magazines and that’s all. I had to collect trophies at the front end, which I still fight with to this day.
  4. +11
    26 September 2023 17: 01
    I will kill anyone for my personal tool and equipment smile.
    I make sure that it doesn’t go anywhere into the wrong hands.
    I don’t understand how you can ruin your uniform, equipment, weapons with sloppiness... your own life depends on this.
    1. Eug
      +2
      26 September 2023 17: 32
      It's unlikely that it's their own, but it's stolen... although most people immediately tag their property.
  5. +13
    26 September 2023 17: 01
    Well, yes, they always drank and fell in love, except that under the princes you couldn’t push chain mail and a shield to everyone you met, although who knows how it was then. But this is one side of the coin, how many of those who drank, sold, broke in pieces? And now how many of those same pieces were not given to them, were there not enough, or are not in stock? Copters and helicopters, the most necessary things in this war are still delivered by volunteers (God bless them); not everyone has SUVs either, and the reason is not sloppiness, ammunition, shoes. So it's a very unpleasant topic.
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  6. +2
    26 September 2023 17: 03
    During the trial, it turned out that during the long journey, the future fighters managed to drink away all the goods given to them. A separate question is where the commanders were looking, and where careless military personnel were able to sell their equipment. Apparently, work for the military prosecutor's office.
    Maybe the military correspondent got excited, the prosecutor's office has not yet worked.... But commanders need to be in the ranks, as privates, they are not aspiring to their father-commanders, since they are afraid of drunks. request
    1. 0
      26 September 2023 17: 05
      Mavrikiy hi, so maybe there was a principle there, you can’t win, you can lead.
    2. -2
      26 September 2023 17: 13
      This stupid man like a military correspondent said a lot of things like a talking bird, he doesn’t respect himself to trust!!!
      1. +1
        26 September 2023 17: 18
        This "military correspondent" is looking for a cheap sensation. He's already had so many screw-ups, God forbid.
  7. +16
    26 September 2023 17: 06
    I would call this war a festival of waste. Looking at the lunar landscapes, one can easily assess the efficiency of howitzer fire as extremely low. And if anyone understands, firing aircraft NURs from a nose-up position is essentially firing into the white light. Well, etc.
    1. -13
      26 September 2023 17: 14
      Well, go ahead and suggest something better!!! The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not contain useful information.
      1. -3
        26 September 2023 17: 56
        Quote: Oleg Fedechkin
        Well, go ahead and suggest something better!!! The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not contain useful information.

        I would suggest increasing the power of the ammunition.
        If instead of 5 kilograms you launch 5 kilotons,
        then a small slip won't matter.
    2. +1
      26 September 2023 17: 23
      Quote: km-21
      The efficiency of howitzer firing is extremely low. And if anyone understands, firing aircraft NURs from a nose-up position is essentially shooting into the white light.

      Efficiency=1/150=0,0066666666666667=
      = 0,66666666666667%
  8. -20
    26 September 2023 17: 09
    Sladkov has already said a lot of nasty things about the Russian army, who even supports him and pays his salary??
    1. +9
      26 September 2023 17: 18
      Does it really hurt your eyes? Well, close them and don't look. Listen to Skabeeva - she will tell you the truth.
      1. +4
        26 September 2023 18: 42
        And Sladkov doesn’t receive a salary from VGTRK!!
    2. +3
      26 September 2023 17: 38
      Quote: Oleg Fedechkin
      Sladkov has already said a lot of nasty things about the Russian army, who even supports him and pays his salary??

      VGTRK.
  9. +6
    26 September 2023 17: 22
    Somehow there is no worry at all that some drunk will drink away his pea coat or winter boots. Not a topic to worry about, because... There will be someone to ask him, and they will ask him. The salary will be returned three times. But there are others from whom there is no one to ask, or the demand is too affectionate - this is an eternal topic of conversation. The drunkard will drink, he will break his arm, but he will not talk about frugality and sobriety in his simplicity. Therefore, we are not talking about them. And Sladkov takes him aside, “professional”.
  10. +11
    26 September 2023 17: 22
    Quote: svp67
    So what's the problem? Let them pay three prices of “sold and drunk” and get something new.

    Elementary! Only upon investigation can it become clear that many DID NOT RECEIVE all their clothing allowances. Therefore, they do not follow this scenario. They involve all sorts of correspondents, and “lower” the blame to the lower level.
    RS. Indeed, it was funny to look at the formation of the mobilized. It seemed like the men were going to drink vodka and go fishing. They were waiting for the bus. wassat
  11. Eug
    -1
    26 September 2023 17: 28
    Well, how much talk about the uselessness of “special officers”... a couple of demonstrative arrests - that’s a “vaccination against irresponsibility.”
    1. +8
      26 September 2023 17: 49
      The main thing is not to expose yourself
      ___________
  12. +2
    26 September 2023 17: 29
    So, what could be the problem here? The salary they receive is not small - deduct, as expected, five times the amount. This is the second one. Third, work for the military prosecutor's office. Fourth, are these drunks needed there at all? Who recruited them? Who sent them? Who accepted them? Who accompanied them? These elementary issues must be resolved according to the laws of war, because these “military” ones only undermine the overall combat readiness. Well, first of all, there must be these wartime laws. It's war time. War, not SVO. If our Victory is included in the plans of “our” leadership, we cannot do without it.
  13. +8
    26 September 2023 17: 30
    People involved in training and sending fighters reported that they were fully equipped.
    Did they by any chance equip the warriors with the wrong one and a half straps, which they say on paper, but in fact have been around for a long time? There is a lot to report. Especially if no one even begins to figure out why it actually doesn’t exist and where it went.
  14. 0
    26 September 2023 17: 55
    It is what it is. For example, the fact that tanks are being repaired, as was said from gov.. I heard nothing back in January. They give everything too. Where does everything disappear to?
  15. +3
    26 September 2023 18: 02
    General Chief Raevsky is a testament of commanders, why don’t I see my glorious bombers
    The commanders answer - they themselves are all trembling, “the bonbandirs are lying drunk at the tavern.”
    He says to the adjutants - “damn it, put hay on the bombardiers at the tavern.”
  16. 0
    26 September 2023 18: 04
    It’s clear that they are trying to cover up the problem with the VP in the Zaparozhye and Kherson direction..... And we are writing sloppiness and the chaos that is happening on the part of the VP, not a single article.... well, well
  17. +6
    26 September 2023 18: 12
    Why do they now give away property just like that? Without a physical certificate? I'm not talking about personal weapons. They issued me, signed, and added it to my military ID. Did you fall in love? Return it fivefold. The equipment is transferred according to the combat (transport) vehicle form. The crew (driver) is registered and given an order with all the ensuing rights and responsibilities. Where are the father commanders? Are they not fulfilling their direct job responsibilities? There is a superior officer or commander. Are there signs of criminal negligence? Military investigator and prosecutor. At one time, the fighter fell in love with the bayonet for the AK-74. The price is 9 rubles, if I remember correctly. They gave me a new one, but withheld 45 rubles from my father-commander. Everything is as simple as army underpants. And there is no need to “shag grandma.” There are all regulatory documents. We just need to demand that officials and subordinates fulfill their duties, and those who are supposed to exercise control, and not live by the old principle “war will write off everything”
    1. +1
      26 September 2023 19: 30
      Bayonet 9 rubles? Yes, there have been cases (they lost) bayonets and knives. Someone will hide it for demobilization. I don’t know of a single case where a company commander paid for a bayonet. Write off. I used chemicals myself, so I know.
      1. +3
        26 September 2023 20: 33
        Dear Fedor. I don’t know about the situation and compliance with the legislation in your department, therefore it is on your conscience. And my example is on mine. Something like this. And we have a similar “chemistry” - a direct path to the disciplinary battalion (for starters), and maybe straight to the zone.
    2. +2
      26 September 2023 20: 04
      Have you heard about the difference in accounting in peacetime and in the event of hostilities? Even the inventory of ammunition is kept operational, i.e. without maintaining cards and expense sheets, solely on request, and issuing according to regular expense invoices without reporting.
      1. +4
        26 September 2023 20: 41
        I know it firsthand. Just don’t confuse warm with sweet. Clothing property in ANY case is issued in the acquisition areas and according to a clothing certificate. So, the fighter is delivered to the combat coordination areas dressed and shod, and in some cases, armed. Moreover, after all the above procedures and documents. As for ammunition, at LBS commanders receive them using invoices, I agree, but in TWO copies. One is for the issuer, the other is for the recipient. The issuer reports on them in his support area. And the recipient, accordingly, keeps it with an entry in the Combat Log. Something like this. And the prosecutor, God forbid, is the first thing he will demand.
      2. 0
        26 September 2023 20: 59
        Heard. I'm talking about peaceful things. Here is one example: The company was alerted to the airfield. I was on duty in the company; only the driver remained with me. I did not have time to give out all the weapons from the gun park. There were separate platoons (communications platoon, supply platoon, driver’s platoon). During an alarm, even oil cans should not be left in the gun park. The platoon came for weapons, and I gave them all the weapons and bayonet knives without registration. There was no time to write. It was at night. We drove to the airfield as a driver. He slid into a ditch, his face was covered in blood. Yes, nothing. We arrived at the airfield and began collecting signatures for weapons. And the platoon leader ran into me, three bayonets of the knife were missing. He tells me, I will put you in prison. I answer, go and jail your demobilized people. Then he didn’t come to me, he probably figured it out. And so we sat at the airport for three days, the planes were ready to take off, but they didn’t fly anywhere. Then they told us where we were supposed to fly and they canceled it.
  18. +8
    26 September 2023 18: 21
    Here, as it were, we first need to ask those who squandered 1,5 million or how many sets of uniforms there are. The fish rots from the head down
  19. -1
    26 September 2023 18: 24
    Quote: Dart2027
    the future fighters managed, as it happened, to drink away all the goods given to them
    This happened during WWII.

    This means that this is an ineradicable property of a conscript, you can’t write anything about it...
  20. -2
    26 September 2023 18: 46
    Sladkov is the one who tells fairy tales!!!!
  21. -1
    26 September 2023 18: 47
    The question is the logistics of sending to the front. Does it make sense to load soldiers with ammunition and uniforms at recruiting points? They dressed for the season, gave us a bowler hat and a spoon, on the train and to the front. But there, in units and subunits, they give out everything that is required. And everyone must be dressed the same, so that the enemy cannot pretend that our soldiers are dressed differently, all things must be signed with bleach according to the military ID number, so that the identity (God forbid) of the killed warrior can be determined from any part of the clothing. This was the case in the Soviet Army. Any weapon carried is recorded on the military ID. For loss, at least disbat. All military equipment is accepted by the commander and transferred to crews and crews against signature, who also bear financial and criminal liability. Everything has long been invented and tested
    Question about drunkenness. A military train or other transport is usually guarded by patrols so that no one runs away, much less sells things and runs to the store for vodka. Before boarding, those mobilized or conscripted are searched and all cutting and piercing objects and alcohol are confiscated.
    This is also from the practice of the Soviet army. And what Sladkov is telling is a mess for which someone must answer. soldier
    1. +2
      26 September 2023 20: 10
      Did you take part in hostilities? This is all in peacetime.....
      1. -2
        27 September 2023 03: 45
        He was on combat duty. Combat operations are not Makhnovshchina in your understanding. In a real army, leaving a unit or position without orders from the commander is equivalent to desertion. Personnel are constantly monitored and recounted. In the rear there is a commandant platoon that keeps order and checks everyone. All movement from the front and to the front is strictly controlled to prevent saboteurs from penetrating into the rear.
        Anything can happen, but I can’t imagine drunk people appearing at LBS. soldier
  22. 0
    26 September 2023 19: 09
    Volunteers are savvy people. We managed to ride a bicycle from the front line to get vodka.
  23. -5
    26 September 2023 19: 18
    There is a catastrophic lack of such publications, even primitive ones! Now, for every one article about idiots (cowards, traitors) “from below,” there are 100 articles about idiots and inadequates “from above.” But there should be an inverse relationship. The “tops” are unlikely to read VO, but the “lower classes” often look at VO, and must understand when they will be treated well, and when vice versa... I understand that it is not fashionable now to criticize a “common soldier”, but it can have a positive effect, in contrast to criticism of military commanders.
  24. -4
    26 September 2023 19: 24
    Who is to blame in such cases? The rear of the Armed Chill? Sponsors? This is “there is war here”, this is not about combat losses, this is about sloppiness

    - summed up Sladkov.
    It is important that sanctions are not imposed on Sladkov from the Russian Defense Ministry for presenting “unnecessary information” to the public that harms the conduct of the SVO. But there was, is and will be sloppiness in the army. The property in the army is not yours, but government property, which can and should be damaged. The awareness among personnel of the fallacy of such opinions comes only with the color of blood and the number of soldiers’ lives lost... recourse
  25. -1
    26 September 2023 20: 11
    Sladkov inflates his image as a “military correspondent” based on sensations that are usually not confirmed.
    A year ago, he lied about the “conversion of the Pacific paratroopers” near Ugledar.
    This year in June I “handed over” Kleshcheevka.
    It’s the same here: if you find such a situation, well, give an interview to those who discovered the sale of military property! Write to the military prosecutor's office! Name at least the military unit where this happened, or at least the geographical location!
    No, nothing will happen.
    But Sladkov will catch the hype from his audience
  26. 0
    26 September 2023 20: 23
    The defenders of the Motherland arrived at their destination, as Sladkov put it, looking like beggars.
    During the trial, it turned out that during the long journey, the future fighters managed to drink away all the goods given to them.

    This is nothing, I remember last year Sladkov said that volunteers from Kuban are literally fighting without underwear.
    The well-known Russian war correspondent Alexander Sladkov, on federal television, stated that the volunteers of the Krasnodar Territory, who are holding back the offensive of the Ukrainian armed forces, do not have underwear.
    https://bloknot-krasnodar.ru/news/voenkor-aleksandr-sladkov-zayavil-ob-otsutstvii-ni
  27. -4
    26 September 2023 22: 48
    Well, they drank in civilian life. Well, right away everyone is already a drunk. They are going to fight, and why not drink? On the front line you won’t drink much or you’ll become completely teetotal. My opinion is that in battle such (drunks) are flint, future heroes. And then everyone here in the article became teetotalers. Have you forgotten how you drank? request
    1. -1
      27 September 2023 11: 49
      Quote: Fedka
      My opinion is that in battle such (drunks) are flint,

      If sober! wassat And if they are drunk, then they are potential dead. wink
      Quote: Fedka
      They are going to fight

      And what ? Do you fill your fear with vodka? fool
      1. -1
        27 September 2023 12: 04
        They're not going for pancakes. Stress is relieved. Did I write somewhere that drunks are on the front lines? But what am I talking about? You won't understand this.
        1. -1
          28 September 2023 18: 44
          Quote: Fedka
          You do not understand this.

          How can I understand? laughing I was on the second Chechen, and saw a lot of things that are not written about. That’s why I expressed my opinion to you. hi
  28. +3
    27 September 2023 00: 19
    - Wasting “Public” property?! Was there no one to set an example? When over the past decades, tens of billions of American rubles have been drawn out of the country every year, in increasing order... and they tried to convince us that this is a benefit for the state, like bloodletting used to be for all diseases! We were naive, we believed that with this money we could supply our army with everything necessary....

    - Who was interested in how the outback lived all this time, with the “deep” people? Thanks to Chubais' "behaviors", enterprises (collective farms, state farms, timber industry enterprises, production facilities in small and medium-sized cities) were destroyed throughout the country. The men, left without work, simply drank themselves to death!
  29. -1
    27 September 2023 04: 03
    A separate question is where the commanders were looking

    And not separate at all. The problem is the platoon level, the edge of the company... I would have cut these military officers for meat... at least there would be no use for them.
  30. 0
    27 September 2023 06: 25
    80 percent of those mobilized drink heavily, many of my friends left there a year ago, those who don’t drink are actually engaged in combat training, the rest think that they came to “partisan”
    1. -2
      27 September 2023 07: 47
      Recently I was visiting a neighbor, and a Samara volunteer from the hospital called him. I sat nearby and heard everything. Ten volunteers were sent to the front to check some object. They didn't return. Seven more volunteers were sent to check where the soldiers had disappeared. We go into the basement, there is a machine gun there, I checked it is not in working condition. and suddenly grenades flew at them. He fell wounded and saw his friend taken prisoner. As he lay down, he was shot three times in the chest. He was lucky and remained alive; our scouts pulled him out later.
    2. -1
      27 September 2023 21: 25
      Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
      80 percent of conscripts drink black

      Hmm. Do commanders and superiors encourage them? Or did you close your eyes?

      80% of the three you know are nothing, uncle... these are not even statistics. If I have any information, write me a personal message... maybe I’ll answer. Minus is mine.
      1. -2
        28 September 2023 07: 16
        So, I also have information. Drunkenness is now a real problem in the Northern Military District. In our battalion, on vacation (we work 4/4), most of the personnel drink, and together with the platoon commanders. Company officers live separately and drink in their own company. The infantry sits on the front line for 3-4 weeks, with 2 days of rest. All they have time to do on this “vacation” is wash their clothes and get drunk. It happens that people take booze with them to LBS. Friends from other brigades say the same thing happens to them. The other day I’m returning back to SVO from vacation.
  31. -3
    27 September 2023 07: 40
    This is the problem of "watchman syndrome". Or the heirs of the lordly courtyards of the times of King Pea...

    Who is in charge in any business? Those who are closer to the master. Auxiliary units - security, special officers, personnel officers, accounting, business executives.
    As children they want to be pilots, and adults want to be supply workers.

    And those who actually fight, fly, swim, and generally “at the machine” have become, as it were, auxiliary. This is, so to speak, a modern “drag mass”.

    It is clear that in such an upside-down world, its “owners” feel that “relaxation” is their legal right.... You’re like, go and struggle in the field, and I’m with the master!
  32. -1
    27 September 2023 07: 41
    Men from the Far East are accustomed to the fact that visiting an artel for the season is a complete drinking session. Then there will be prohibition for 6 months, everyone will plow with full effort, and now, I remember, something unimaginable was happening at the Khabarovsk airport. I was unemployed for several years because... due to health reasons they were not taken underground, and unfamiliar “new Russians” settled in power in the area, etc. Dressed like a homeless person in torn sneakers, a tattered dirty anorak and a greasy cap. My future status was undefined (from senior manager to watchman) and I was ready for a modest job as a geologist. Nevertheless, many fellow countrymen, miners, geologists, surveyors recognized me, and each company considered it their duty to treat the half-starved bearded man with vodka from a plastic shot glass. In the cargo An-26 there were benches along the side, etc. I settled down at the very back and had to go to the toilet in the nose across the entire plane. On the way, they handed me beer and vodka, and I automatically took a sip from each hand.
    1. 0
      27 September 2023 11: 36
      Quote: geologist
      On the way, they handed me beer and vodka, and I automatically took a sip from each hand.

      And your health immediately improved, and you found a good job? Show me at least one person whom drinking made happy, and I will start drinking! But there are no such people in my circle! Someone lost their family, job, health, someone left before their time, someone committed a crime out of stupidity, someone became homeless. Do you have other examples? hi
      1. -2
        27 September 2023 12: 17
        I just want to talk about the lives of the majority of ordinary people who work in difficult conditions and today are forced to go to the civil war after the collapse of the USSR, where drunkenness was the norm. And I got a position much higher than I wanted, but I completely ruined my health.
  33. -1
    27 September 2023 08: 36
    There have always been such heroes in the army. Some people clean their weapons, while the heroes spend days setting up trenches with shovels.
  34. -2
    27 September 2023 12: 39
    The soldiers are bad now, careless drunkards, but they are now preventing our generals from winning the war.
  35. +3
    27 September 2023 14: 35
    And all because they send mobs there, many of them did not want to go anywhere, many do not need all this, but they were forced, and after that what do you naive expect from such warriors?! The people sitting here are mostly men who are in favor, and the naivety is kind of teenage-like, to be honest. Well, the volunteers are coming, compare their attitude and those who were forcibly caught and sent away, do you feel the difference?!
  36. 0
    27 September 2023 16: 07
    the future fighters managed, as it happened, to drink away all the goods given to them.

    This is not sloppiness, but carelessness and selfishness.
  37. -2
    27 September 2023 20: 49
    Why are you running into soldiers? These are the faces of patriotism. Just a slightly clumsy face, all chipped from long drinking. These persons of patriotism lived by the principle “not mine, don’t mind!” even in civilian life!* and they live the same way in war. It's just how they were raised. Moreover, not by parents, but by a country that puts the private above the state and public. As an example: he stole 100 thousand from a private owner and received 6 years as a planner. Stole budget money - received 4 years probation
  38. -2
    27 September 2023 22: 57
    I don’t know how this Sladkov communicated with the participants of the SVO, that they did not explain the situation to him. I talked to people from the Russian side, read people from the Ukrainian side. They say and write one thing: a car is a consumable item. They live very short lives on the front line. If you carried ammunition in a UAZ and took away a wounded person, the car has already paid for itself. There is not the slightest chance that this can be done from time to time. They will notice you from a drone and do something bad.
  39. -1
    28 September 2023 10: 06
    Quote: Alexey Alekseev_5
    How did they do it at Wagner? According to the nephew’s story, in Syria one such huckster was shot in the leg and sent home for treatment at his own expense. They were deprived of all payments. By the way, when the nephew returned from Syria, he was wearing nothing from the army. The helmet was South Korean. There were a couple of armored ones. The silencer for the weapon was a trophy one. I bought boots for 19 thousand. Five magazines of different capacities. I agreed with someone about the “warrior” armor plates. I calculated it offhand; he spent almost a lemon on his equipment. In Wagner from the very beginning. Something like this

    A zealous nephew. My soul rejoices! They don’t skimp on themselves, and even on safety, that’s true.
  40. -1
    28 September 2023 10: 11
    There is such a problem - drunkenness. Starting from the first days of mobilization, ending before being captured.
  41. 0
    28 September 2023 19: 58
    This military correspondent apologized at least once when he gave out misinformation, either about the death of the TO marine brigade, or about the actions of the UkroDRG in Bryansk, or about the capture of Kleshcheevka.