Denmark refused Russia's request for a joint investigation into the explosions on the Nord Stream gas pipelines

The investigation into the explosions at the Russian gas pipelines Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 has still not been completed, and the perpetrators have not been found. At the same time, Russia is not allowed to visit him. This was stated by the Russian Ambassador to Denmark Vladimir Barbin.

Denmark not only does not allow Russia to investigate terrorist attacks on gas pipelines, but also ignores requests from Russian law enforcement officers on this issue. For all this time, official Copenhagen deigned to send a response to only one request about an object discovered at the bottom of the Baltic Sea next to pipelines. As it turned out, it was a used smoke buoy.

No substantive progress has occurred, there is no interaction. (...) Denmark refused to Russia not only to conduct a joint investigation into these sabotages, but also to fulfill most requests for legal assistance in this criminal case

- says a written comment sent to RIA News.

According to Barbin, Denmark fears that Russia, admitted to the investigation, will find some evidence of involvement of Americans or others in the terrorist attack, and this could harm relations with the United States or affect supplies weapons Ukraine. The Danes explain the refusal to provide information as a threat to the kingdom's national security. In general, there is mutual responsibility there, everyone knows who is guilty of the terrorist attacks, but they don’t say. But the Germans, for whom the gas pipeline was built, lost their nerve and continue to assure that everything is fine.

Let us recall that explosions on two Russian gas pipelines occurred at the end of September 2022. Germany, Denmark and Sweden did not rule out sabotage; Russia announced a terrorist attack. Russian specialists are not allowed into the investigation, lest they find something “extra”; in the West they are assured that there is a “Ukrainian trace” in the case. The most likely version of the US involvement in the explosions in Europe is immediately rejected; slaves cannot slander their master.

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[rocket757]

Denmark refused Russia's request for a joint investigation into the explosions on the Nord Stream gas pipelines

. What a surprise"....

[credo]

Quote: rocket757

Denmark refused Russia's request for a joint investigation into the explosions on the Nord Stream gas pipelines

. What a surprise"....

Our leadership was once again taught the same lesson by interstate relations, which it still has not learned.
Now, if Gazprom and other bosses financed the construction of both joint ventures from their own pocket, they would have thought a million times and calculated all the risks of such construction projects in other people’s “penates” instead of forcing the consumers themselves to finance the construction of the joint venture 100% at their expense.

[rocket757]

Lessons, such a thing... are important, necessary, the main thing is that they are learned, because in some cases, repetition is not the mother of learning, but really big problems.

[your1970]

Quote: credo

in order to persuade consumers themselves to finance the construction of joint ventures 100% at their expense.

That's how it is, joint construction. And to force them to pay for the construction in full - they would do the math and it would turn out that taking into account the construction, LNG would cost them a little more. And then what? Would we go to hell with our joint venture?
The budget of the Russian Federation consists of 62% of revenues from customs - the bulk of export duties on raw materials.
How to replace this 62%?

[Egeny]

.......................
Well, yes, who would doubt it.

[rocket757]

There is a possibility that no one expected a positive answer... most likely, this is so.
They carry out “protocol actions”, save up the invoice, maybe it will come in handy later.

[Pravodel]

What a surprise"...

Now, if the Martians agreed to participate in the investigation, it would be so unexpected. And so, what a “surprise”...

[rocket757]

The office writes, papers are piling up... why and who needs them, may need them, is that a question?

[Aitneics Secniv]

Yes, it’s just time for us to extinguish their infrastructure too, that’s all

[Mikhail Ivanov]

I agree with you! Another question is how we got to the point where it became possible to destroy our infrastructure and then send the Russians out into the open... Where is this prison of Europe on the map?

[Egeny]

how did we get there.........

... yes, it’s very simple, there was no point in pulling the long-term construction out of the pipes in the excitement of free benefits. Only after the sabotage did Miller and Co. realize that they needed to gasify the country and build gas-filling complexes, and not please the West

[tralflot1832]

As practice has shown, supplying gas to the West through pipelines is a dead-end option. That’s it, Gazprom’s gas pipelines in the Baltic died, bringing us some costs. The explosion of gas pipelines finally made Gazprom think about where to put gas for the European market.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

The question is very controversial! Although I would note the advantage of selling LNG over pipelines. However, if you consider the entire spectrum, it becomes obvious - the pipeline is not only a flow of money, but also a political tool! And it is for this reason that mattresses called into our pipes. We remained silent in response...

[tralflot1832]

Mikhail - Ivanov. Gazprom unfortunately slept through the LNG revolution and this is a fact. It seems like where is Australia (strike at offshore LNG plants) - two cubits across the globe from the EU, and gas prices fluctuated upward so much, only in Europe. Gas in In the USA, just over $90 per 1000 cubic meters, and in Europe? Politics can be done on more favorable economic terms, through LNG. Now the main thing is economic mobility.

[Jcvai]

The most reliable option: sell on your territory, but then you lose profit from delivery.
Classic business: the higher the income, the higher the risks.
Accordingly, for logistics earnings: either accept the risks during deliveries (if the profit significantly outweighs the cost of restoration), or ensure the minimization of risks (security, plus prompt and inevitable responses to inflict more than comparable damage to the “risk sources”)

[Egeny]

some costs...

... well, well, costs, you say... 2468 km of pipes (along two lines), 8,5 billion euros, of which our “costs” are about 5 billion.

Maarten Wetselaar, Klaus Schaefer, Mario Mehren, Alexey Miller, Gerhard Schröder, Isabelle Kocher, Gerard Mestrallet, Rainer Seele and Matthias Warnig
24 Apr. 2017

[Brturin]

Quote from Egeni

of which our “costs” are about 5 billion.

Any double-edged sword - President of the German Institute for Economic Research Marcel Fratzscher... “The conflict in Ukraine and the associated sharp increase in energy costs cost Germany almost 2022%, or €2,5 billion, of economic productivity in 100. These costs will continue to grow in the coming years" https://iz.ru/1472772/2023-02-20/ekonomist-zaiavil-o-potere-frg-eu100-mlrd-iz-za-konflikta-na-ukraine
Energy-intensive industrial production in Germany has decreased by more than 15% since February 2022, says the head of the Bundestag Energy Committee Klaus Ernst, citing a report by the German Ministry of Economy... “Currently, no improvements are visible. The second half of the year threatens to be particularly difficult for both energy-intensive industries and the construction sector,” he admitted. https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2023/09/23/vot-ona-deindustrializaciya-v-bundestage-ocenili-posledstviya-sankciy-dlya-germanii
few are beginning to speak up - Executive Director of the Eastern Committee of the German Economy Michael Harms - Leaving the Russian market for German companies has become a “big problem”... “In principle, there were excellent relations, we benefited greatly from this, we not only received good resources, but also "We invested a lot, I personally worked in Russia for a long time - [this] is a great time and great prospects. So if we resolve the political [issues], then, of course, there will be a return" https://tass.ru/ekonomika/18658107
and even propose to restore the joint venture - Eckhard Cordes, ex-chairman of the Eastern Committee of the German Economy and former member of the board of directors of Daimler-Benz companies... “Cordes believes that a change in course is still possible,” writes the Berliner Zeitung, since “the situation is not yet irrevocable." “We could start our nuclear power plants soon. And we could also repair Nord Stream - there is still Russian gas,” suggests Cordes. But this “urgently requires political solutions based on reality, not ideological misconceptions.”
https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2023-09-24/Nemeckij-top-menedzher-Germanii-nuzhni-Severnie

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Putin answered very competently about the costs - they arrested something for us, and we earned twice as much. But the question is completely different, we collected almost a trillion in 2022 alone. The main problem is that 400 yards of it were stolen...

[Andrey Dibrov]

Quote: tralflot1832

As practice has shown, supplying gas to the West through pipelines is a dead-end option. That’s it, Gazprom’s gas pipelines in the Baltic died, bringing us some costs. The explosion of gas pipelines finally made Gazprom think about where to put gas for the European market.

Europe could manage without that gas.
All those hundreds of billions of “reserves” (simply liquidity frozen for decades, which did not work for the country in any way and was not provided with anything in return) - this is precisely all the gas supplied to Europe over these twenty years. Going nowhere.
There is no point in downloading.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

The most likely version of the US involvement in the explosions in Europe is immediately rejected; slaves cannot slander their master.

Strange phrase.
The assumption of the involvement of striped animals already amounts to slander.

An unsubstantiated statement, yes, could still be equated.

[Alexga]

Denmark refused Russia's request for a joint investigation into the explosions on the Nord Stream gas pipelines

You would think that in Europe someone makes decisions on their own.

[aszzz888]

The investigation into the explosions at the Russian gas pipelines Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 has still not been completed, and the perpetrators have not been found. At the same time, Russia is not allowed to visit him.

It would be naive to assume that we would be allowed to investigate the explosions at the Russian gas pipelines Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2.

[Rom8681]

If we start to “extinguish” their infrastructure, we will be crushed in a week, RUSSIA will cease to exist as a state.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces, as they say on our website, are destroying our fleet headquarters and our ships with decommissioned NATO weapons.
Where else can you aim at NATO?
And they are breaking our infrastructure, seeing that we are weak, and they are breaking and will continue to break and take away.
Nobody considers us a superpower; there is no need to puff out our cheeks.
But we have to become a powerful economic and military power, and this will take more than one year, but everything depends on the king and his retinue

[white fall]

Well, there’s something you’re not saying - without the support of NATO, the Armed Forces of Ukraine would have died two years ago. And here you have the supply of weapons to the annual budget of Russia, and satellite data, and reconnaissance aircraft, and any of the latest weapons. And I wouldn’t say that Ukrainians do everything easily themselves. This does not negate the fact that we cannot survive against NATO, and the Ukrainians cannot survive without NATO. Such is the irony

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Rom8681

But we have to become a powerful economic and military power, and this will take more than one year, but everything depends on the king and his retinue

With the economic structure, when the development of industry is tied to the dollar exchange rate, when the oligarchs set such prices for energy resources that there can be no competition and development of production a priori, when there are fewer enterprises and workers working for them in the country than there are bank offices and bank employees, coupled with various political scientists and public talkers?
Fuck it!!!
Nothing ALREADY depends on either the Tsar or his retinue... The retinue has become dull in its inactivity and, with heads swollen from fat, speaks all sorts of nonsense that DOES NOT GET BETTER. And the tsar, starting from 2024, may not be real, although in 2012 his strange nomination was made legal...
It was Peter I who could cut off not only the beards of the boyars, but also their heads, and in our country they are even “embarrassed” to lift the moratorium on the death penalty, so that thieves and swindlers on an especially large scale would not “disgrace themselves” in the company of the true enemies of the country - the bourgeoisie...

[Ross xnumx]

The Danes explain the refusal to provide information as a threat to the kingdom's national security.

They got sick of their “drops of the Danish king” to the root...
Maybe it’s time to demonstrate to this American mongrel what a threat to national security is and how it relates to economic security...
Why the hell are we bowing down in front of “the people standing by the dish” when we have every right to conduct our own investigation into explosions on Russian property?
By the way, Mr. Miller suddenly disappeared from the public space...

[tralflot1832]

Mr. Miller is not amused, Gazprom is the only company with a state block of shares that has not paid dividends this year. And then there is Gazpromneft, who lied to Novak. I wouldn’t be surprised that someone might be sent to retirement. The latest cabal between Novatek and Gazprom, with the gas pipeline project to the Kola Peninsula required the intervention of the President (this remained behind the scenes) - the issue was resolved more in favor of Novatek, rather than Gazprom. Clouds are gathering over Miller.

[Reindeer herder_2]

Denmark is “northern Turkey” (along the straits)… you can’t argue with geography

It won't save you either

Total exports from Russia to Denmark amount to $3,5 billion.

[tralflot1832]

Denmark has a rebellious archipelago, the Farroe Islands - mainland Denmark sent forests to stay out of the relations between Tórshavn and Russia in the fishing industry. I don’t hate the Faroese Danes once a year, when they kill either a herd of dolphins or whales in the bay without giving the latter a chance to escape. From Maxim, if someone worked on this beach on this day, you won’t get it from Greta.

[Reindeer herder_2]

Quote: tralflot1832

Denmark has a rebellious archipelago, the Farroe Islands

the thought did not understand.
Denmark and Greenland have one that Trump wanted to buy...
How will this help Russia with the Danish Straits?

Quote: tralflot1832

when they hit a herd of dolphins in the bay,

Grind (black dolphins) kill
Driven hunting is called Grindadráp. However, they also kill a bunch of other dolphins and cetaceans

The islands' representative in the Danish Parliament, Sjurdur Skaal, visited the scene and said that people who saw the hunt were furious.
However, he believes that the hunt is humane. Faroese whalers use a special harpoon, with which they cut the spine of dolphins and whales and then cut their throats.
Thus, Skaal emphasized, the animal dies quickly.
"It's much better than keeping cows and pigs in captivity."

Quote: tralflot1832

from Greta

This sick girl is on the other side

[tralflot1832]

Reindeer herder _ 2. It is somewhat problematic to block the straits of Denmark and Sweden - the Baltic states, Poland and Finland are also very dependent on them, we can play this game together. By the way, the Finns are already fussing, they want to develop logistics in Finnmark at the interstate level. Reindeer herder_2 you by chance weren’t you a fishmaster? Watching videos from new trawlers, suspicions arise from where the fish processing equipment on these vessels comes from and not only that.

[Reindeer herder_2]

So they will not block all Poland, Finland and the Baltic states.
They will simply inform you: the passage of Russian ships and vessels to/from Russian ports is PROHIBITED.
Well, what about the advanced aviation and cars from the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.
And the rest can.
All: St. Petersburg, Ust Ouga, Vysotsk have dried out.

Quote: tralflot1832

Reindeer Breeder_2, were you by any chance a fishmaster?

Not. Not mine. I have a fishing rod and a spinning rod, I want to master underwater at the World Cup.

Quote: tralflot1832

suspicion arises where the fish processing equipment comes from

Shh...
If you have connections with Kazakh colleagues: ask for what month the American troops have been sitting in the customs committee.

[tralflot1832]

Reindeer herder_2. Therefore, Kazakhstan declares that it has lost grain sales in Iran - some foreign companies came and took away the Iranian grain market from Kazakhstan. And who could it be? Closing the straits of Denmark and Sweden is not possible under the Law of the Sea for Russian civil courts and military ones too , without declaring war.

[Reindeer herder_2]

Quote: tralflot1832

According to the Law of the Sea, it is not possible for Russian courts and the military to close the straits of Denmark and Sweden without declaring war.

Physically it is possible and very easy. No one will declare war (Nord Stream 2 will confirm).
Now they spit on the “right”.
The money was given according to what right?
Remind me how many AN-124s are detained in Canada and Germany and what they are going to do with them (or have already done?
Are there ships flying the Russian flag in their ports?

Quote: tralflot1832

Therefore, Kazakhstan declares that it has lost grain sales in Iran

The first time I've heard

2022. From the harvest of 2022-2023, Kazakhstan will supply grain crops to Iran in the amount of 1 million tons. The corresponding memorandum was signed by the ministers of agriculture of the two countries during the visit of President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev to Iran, the press service of the Ministry of Agriculture reported on Monday.

March 2023:
https://eldala.kz/novosti/zerno/13893-kazahstan-ozhidaet-otkrytie-kitaya-i-irana-dlya-eksporta-pshenicy

[tralflot1832]

I watch not just news, but news from grain portals. And I prefer screenshots rather than links. You are far from International Maritime Law.

[Reindeer herder_2]

Quote: tralflot1832

.You are far from International Maritime Law.

I did not claim the opposite. Far away.
Now just write down/remember: if the RF Armed Forces do not reach the Dnieper and take Odessa, so it will be. The Danish Straits will be closed to the Russian Federation. They need to stop ports in the Baltic in order to damage the economy and imports/exports, in order to provoke “unemployment” and “riots.”
In May 2022, could you imagine about leopards, ballistic missiles, attacks on Sochi terminals, facilities in Moscow, Pskov?
Niiii.
The salami principle

[Ezekiel 25-17]

This means Denmark is guilty: it’s time to answer them.

[Rom8681]

Quote: ROSS 42

.The retinue has become stupefied in its inactivity and is spouting all sorts of nonsense with their heads swollen from fat, which DOESN’T GET BETTER. And the tsar, starting from 2024, may not be real, although in 2012 his strange nomination was made legal...
It was Peter I who could cut off not only the beards of the boyars, but also their heads, and in our country they are even “embarrassed” to lift the moratorium on the death penalty, so that thieves and swindlers on an especially large scale would not “disgrace themselves” in the company of the true enemies of the country - the bourgeoisie...

I agree with you, we need Peter l on the throne in a modern guise

[Rom8681]

Quote: tralflot1832

Mr. Miller is no laughing matter

Wildebeest Miller, like Chubais, would have been destined for a fate like Bezovsky, and everyone like him, look, the country would breathe easier

[Real Pilot]

Quote: rocket757

Denmark refused Russia's request for a joint investigation into the explosions on the Nord Stream gas pipelines

. What a surprise"....

Just like a "children's"...
But, as we say, a thief’s hat is on fire! And the cat knows whose meat it ate.

[APASUS]

It is necessary to sue Denmark as a country involved in terrorism.
Either we will receive a piece of paper (official) that Denmark has nothing to do with it and permission to enter, or we will receive official confirmation that Denmark is a terrorist state.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Yeah. Everything according to the well-known scheme:
An hour after the terrorist attack, Denmark knows who blew up the joint venture.
Six months after the terrorist attack, Denmark does not know who blew up the joint venture.
A year after the terrorist attack, Denmark does not want to know who blew up the joint venture.

[geologist]

Denmark considered itself master of the straits for so long that it found itself in a funny position. The guys from the 95th district explained that this does not concern them because... They know the real owner and, with his permission, dismantled the pipes in the Danish reservoir.

[ZovSailor]

Wow, friends and foes!
All of you are almost right in general, but there are nuances!
1.The construction of SP-2 was financed by 5 international companies on the contractual terms of a commercial project. According to various sources, the cost of construction is about 10 billion euros, according to the results, plus or minus the amount is almost the same, in fact, this is a trade secret! Only a limited list of people know. PJSC Gazprom, according to sources, contributed approximately half of the project company’s loans!
2. The construction of flows is insured by international insurance companies, obtaining insurance is a long process, but real, in the light of modern sanctions, the time to obtain insurance increases (there are options for obtaining, different external and internal structures work, but not for disclosure!!!).
3. PJSC Gazprom has already recouped the investment in the construction of flows with a profit according to open information (during the period of high prices in Europe - we can only trust open sources!).
4. There are also some “benefits from sabotage of flows” - the political will of the country’s leadership, according to the state gasification program, is expanding the supply of gas to the population of the Russian Federation, including remote areas!!!
5. In the course of recent events within the country regarding the situation with the supply of fuel to the population and the national economy, I believe that the right decisions were made to satisfy such demand within the country. The process will be long, but businesses and merchants are gradually being taught to think about and care about the people and the country in which they extract resources, albeit not using very popular methods, but the process is underway.

[Slava Pronkin]

I don’t understand what’s going on! You just need to announce to the whole world and accuse them of undermining the Anglo-Saxons, “hali likeli”! As they did and are doing, whoever wants to will believe it, and whoever doesn’t want to, it’s useless to prove it. And not just accuse, and print in all the media and broadcast on all radio and television channels. Enough of the “white gloves” and “humane” warfare, we are being let down and insulted all over the world! It can’t get any worse after this, it’s time to specifically determine who is with us and who is against .Stop being kind under all conditions, saying that the “big brother” should forgive the “pranks” of the younger ones. No!! Naughty - answer to the fullest extent. “The law of the taiga is the Bear is the master” and nothing else.