Russian film director: We have the ideology of February 1917

Since the beginning of the Russian SVO in Ukraine, various experts have “broken many copies” on the topic of how it should have been, how it should end, what the main goals are, etc.

People's Artist of Russia and film director Karen Shakhnazarov expressed his point of view on what is happening in Ukraine today during an interview.

According to him, the current conflict was inevitable. As the film director put it, he understood this ten years ago when he shot the film “The White Tiger.”

In turn, according to Shakhnazarov, Russia cannot lose in this confrontation. Otherwise, our country will simply cease to exist.

It (the Russian Federation) will begin to disintegrate, which will lead to terrifying consequences. Such a gigantic country and quite complex. The collapse will lead to civil war and catastrophic consequences, given the presence of a huge number weapons

- explained the People's Artist.

At the same time, in order to win against our current enemy, according to the film director, he needs to offer something. However, according to him, this is not happening now, and the reason for this is our ideology.

I believe that we have the ideology of February 1917

- Shakhnazarov added.

February '17 is a liberal-bourgeois ideology with a strong nationalistic overtone.

Why did White lose? Because they didn't offer anything. Neither Ukraine nor anyone else

- said the director.

At the same time, when asked what exactly can be offered to Kyiv today, the People’s Artist did not answer unequivocally. Shakhnazarov said that you need to think, but he is not a politician.

At the same time, he admitted that it was the Ukrainian people who needed to be offered. For example, recognize that these people have developed as a nation over the past 30 years.

And, by the way, as a result of the SVO, they may even have become stronger in this

- the Russian artist emphasized.

According to Shakhnazarov, today we need to try to conduct a dialogue not with the Ukrainian authorities, but with ordinary people, including ordinary soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He emphasized that he had not heard of any active information work being carried out at the front to influence the enemy, as, for example, during the Great Patriotic War.

Regarding the possibility of completing the SVO based on the fulfillment of the goals declared by the President of the Russian Federation (demilitarization/denazification), as Shakhnazarov put it, the Battle of Borodino or Kursk should take place. But so far this is not visible and one gets the feeling that the parties have decided to move on to a positional confrontation.

Comments

[knn54]

And I agree 100% with the Russian son of the Armenian people:
-what exactly can be offered to Kyiv today,
declare Zelensky a terrorist.
The organizers of “February 1017” had practically no ideology as such, just like now.
It was the Masons (there were also among the Romanovs) who destroyed the Republic of Ingushetia, which the Bolsheviks had already assembled as the USSR.
And in the Russian Federation there is now “neo-NEP”. When, in particular, one state-owned enterprise sells products to another state-owned enterprise through a private route .. When it is easier to buy and resell, rather than produce..
To the author plus.

[Vladimir Mskvchev]

How is it that there is nothing to offer Ukraine? .... we can offer Ukraine the same thing that Russia offered to Crimea (economic development, social reforms aimed at improving the well-being of the population, physical protection from NATO threats).
And we don’t seize someone’s territory - we return OURS, that earlier (in different years of Soviet power) was torn away from Russia in favor of Ukraine, because Russians still live in the majority of these territories))), .......... this - Ukraine will have to return .
Indeed, in the once Russian territories (transferred to Ukraine), today there is a destruction of everything Russian and history, there is even a physical destruction of those who do not want to silently observe all this.
Without all this, no one would have declared any SVO.
Russia what! .... should have sat silently and watched as in the once Russian territories, where Russians still live, there is a real genocide of the RUSSIAN PEOPLE (the native language is prohibited, Orthodoxy is also banned) and all this is being done under the leadership of the United States? In addition, the NATO bloc is not averse to developing these territories - this will never happen. Odessa was not founded by Catherine so that centuries later the US Army fleet would be stationed there and threaten Russia.

[Hizen]

Why is there no ideology?
His films - hype - "the most important of the arts" - ideology - politics.
He is "not a politician." He has nothing to do with it.
So, talk about any topic.

[bober1982]

With all due respect to K. Shakhnazarov, he begins to talk.

[Smoked]

He is a servant of Melpomene, you can tell him anything. Moreover, he used to be a regular on Solovyov and Co.’s TV programs.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Smoked

Moreover, he used to be a regular on Solovyov and Co.’s TV programs.

and what does it mean?

[Osiris]

This suggests that he is a representative of the GDP elite and all doors are open to him. I respect him, he is historically literate, well-educated, and concretely and convincingly sets out his position in any discussion.

[Alekseev]

Quote: bober1982

he begins to talk.

That is unlikely.
But the Ukrainian people as a nation, and often quite lousy in relation to the Russians, developed hundreds of years ago. It’s just that in the conditions of a strong state, either the Russian Empire or the USSR, this did not manifest itself very well. Now, with the support of the West, “thick dill” have proliferated not only in Galicia, but also in other lands of the former Ukrainian SSR.
But you need to rely on the fact that there are people there too, although many of them are “damaged.” Don’t invite them all to give up for the interests of the United States, and thereby save everyone from problems. They themselves don’t want to, they run away as best they can, like cockroaches from Nenko.
But it is possible to propose to become a peaceful state or states that are not harmful to Russia within its historical borders and to live and work peacefully. Many people want just this.
Explain that by trading in Russophobia, your leaders became billionaires and you, the “peresic” ones, got something, but they will run away, and you will have to pay for everything in blood...
That's the whole ideology.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Alekseev

The Ukrainian people as a nation, and often quite lousy in relation to the Russians, developed hundreds of years ago

sorry when?!!!
can you clarify what you mean?

[Alekseev]

During the years of unrest of the early 17th century, who were the Cossacks of Sagaidachny with, and who did Khmelnitsky’s son Yuri betray? And near Konotop, together with the Tatars, who fought against the Russian army?
Was Mazepa the only one, or did many dream, as Pushkin wrote, “...now we would have to break out in war against hated Moscow!”? Well, Banderaism. Its manifestations were not only near Lvov. Gene. Vatutin was mortally wounded by Banderlog west of Kyiv.
After the revolution of 1917, there was no actual separation of Ukraine with its “hetman” and Rada?
Yes, having received tranduls, the “national cadres” quieted down and moved to the everyday level.
The main difference between this nation is the deep belief that they are better than the “Muscovites”. This is where all the troubles come from.
One could argue that not everyone there was like that. Not all. But many

[bober1982]

Quote: Alekseev

But the Ukrainian people as a nation, and often quite lousy in relation to the Russians, developed hundreds of years ago

It’s not entirely clear what kind of nation was formed there hundreds of years ago.

[Soldatov V.]

It is necessary to invite all Ukrainians to emigrate to the West, to Canada, to the USA, and finally to Poland. It’s good and clear to explain to them that here they will never live like in the West, no matter how high they jump, but we can pay for ships and trains there, even apartments, with the money of the oligarchs arrested in banks. Let the Jews also tell them that they need to tear their claws off this Russian land to where there is paradise and happiness.

[Volunteer Marek]

Has a nation been formed in 30 years? In his head, maybe.

[Foul skeptic]

Has a nation been formed in 30 years? In his head, maybe.

This is possible in objective reality, which does not care whether it is considered possible or not.

[Plate]

Yes, the Ukrainian nation has developed, I think. If there were no nation there, they wouldn’t die like that at LBS. But they would simply run away or give up, asking: “Why do I need this?” But they don't ask. This means there is national self-awareness.
But the Ukrainian nation has developed as hostile to us. This means it must be destroyed. Here I want to emphasize that the destruction of a nation does not mean the destruction of its constituent people. This means throwing their entire nation's face into the mud, firstly. That is, they consider themselves the best Muscovites - which means we need to clearly prove to them that they are deeply mistaken. They believe that the whole world is with them and therefore they cannot be taken - they must be clearly shown that this is not how it works, and the world is not with them. And then quickly begin to treat everyone with harsh propaganda, an educational system and cultural products. In the first one or two generations of such treatment, let there be an atomized crowd without a nation, and then we will gradually reintegrate. Only taking into account past mistakes.

[Foul skeptic]

It means dipping all of them nations face down. That is, they consider themselves the best Muscovites - which means we need to clearly prove to them that they are deeply mistaken.

That is, to prove that “Muscovites are better than them, and they are worse than Muscovites,” do I understand correctly? In other words, engage in exactly the same manipulation that leads to hatred, which we ourselves seem to (in words) condemn?

[Plate]

Did I condemn it? I only condemn such methods when they are used against us :)
I have openly expressed more than once that I consider the Anglo-Saxon policy of destroying nations and peoples to be successful in recent times, and therefore worthy of imitation in those times when we need to do something similar.

[yurybaxter]

Mr. Shakhnazarov, during the Second World War, it was not information work that won...

[Reklastik]

During the Second World War, it was not information work that won...

- tell this to Goebbels and the Germans, how she did not win inside Germany for 12 years...

[ivan2022]

Ukraine worked in the USSR.
Apart from working together for the common good, we have nothing to offer them.
This stage has now been passed. You can't step into the same river twice. It is impossible to convince those who consider themselves Ukrainians that they are Russians.

There are no other solutions other than scattering the bastard around the world, like the Romans once did to the Jews.
Otherwise, we ourselves will be scattered like the ancient Jews. Got through.... Period!

[Osiris]

Shakhnazarov is mistaken - since 1991 we have had NO ideology at all and this is our big problem. We have blotted out the old communist one and thrown it into the dustbin of History, but we still haven’t developed a new one - that’s how we live... This mistake needs to be corrected!

[Plate]

Why some kind of complex ideology? There is an idea that everyone understands - to live richer than you live now. This makes it quite possible to dance. The main thing is to explain to everyone what deferred benefit is and that investments do not pay off instantly, otherwise it is not an investment, but a financial pyramid. Otherwise, we have the opinion that if something did not give an immediate result, then it will not give...

[populist]

At the same time, when asked what exactly can be offered to Kyiv today, the People’s Artist did not answer unequivocally. Shakhnazarov said that you need to think, but he is not a politician.

Shakhnazarov discusses politics in the media, makes various comments, assessments, and recommendations. So he is a politician to a greater or lesser extent. If he is not a politician, then why all these statements, why is he getting involved in politics?

February '17 is a liberal-bourgeois ideology with a strong nationalistic overtone.

Couldn't you think of anything stupider?
Our Russia is being populated by millions of alien migrants, and Shakhnazarov is talking about some kind of nationalism. Nationalists do not populate their countries with foreign populations.

[Foul skeptic]

Couldn't you think of anything stupider?
Our Russia is being populated by millions of alien migrants, and Shakhnazarov is talking about some kind of nationalism. Nationalists do not populate their countries with foreign populations.

Does this somehow prevent the cultivation of nationalism (which is flesh and blood of the “divide and conquer” principle) among the masses? On the contrary, it even helps.

[Plate]

“Divide and conquer” is not about nationalism or something. Nationalism is about the fact that the Bashkirs, Tatars, Chechens, Slavs (so that there is no tautology with the next word), Yakuts and others stand in one row and say: “We are Russians!” By “Russian” we mean not some ethnic group, not affiliation by blood, but a political nation. Well, and, accordingly, they have common interests. Oh yes, the interests of other political nations (French, Germans, Americans, Chinese...) should not matter in comparison with the interests of Russians... that's what nationalism is. At least in my eyes.
But yes, in our country, for some reason, “nationalism” is often understood as ethnic nationalism, and not civil/political.

[Foul skeptic]

“Divide and conquer” is not about nationalism or something.

But nationalism is about “divide and conquer.” Just like religion. And how one considers it, ethnic, civil, does not affect anything. Everything always ends up pointing to someone who is in the way.

[Plate]

Wow. Judging by your speeches, are you a cosmopolitan? This is an unpopular position in the world today, it should be noted.

[Foul skeptic]

Wow. Judging by your speeches, are you a cosmopolitan? This is an unpopular position in the world today, it should be noted.

Wow, you make strange judgments about people based on your own ideas.
PS
For self-education, I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the transcript of Chernov’s lecture in 1951, which was called “Proletarian Internationalism and Bourgeois Cosmopolitanism.” Maybe you can clarify something for yourself.

This is an unpopular position in the world today, it should be noted.

I don't think at 65 I have to worry about being unpopular. Let's leave it to the TikTok generation.

[bober1982]

Quote: populist

Couldn't you think of anything stupider?

Yes, Shakhnazarov’s idea was not entirely successful, he also dragged the Whites into the Februaryists, which is also stupid.

[Foul skeptic]

He also dragged the whites into the Februaryists, which is also stupid.

If you go through the personalities, it turns out that he is not at all “stupid”

[Plate]

That’s how he came along, it seems, if you follow from the article.

[runway-1]

According to him, the current conflict was inevitable.

He was not predestined at all. Everything depended on the effectiveness of our domestic and foreign policy, which in turn was determined by the logic of the system for building society and the state.

At the same time, in order to win against our current enemy, according to the film director, he needs to offer something. However, according to him, this is not happening now, and the reason for this is our ideology.

There is nothing to offer and nothing is expected...

[Alexander Ra]

Alas, at the top, and Shakhnazarov, in particular, belongs to the elite, there is no vision of where and how to move the country. Just like Gorbachev didn’t. The helmsmen do not have a working compass, but they steer confidently.

[Aitneics Secniv]

If this helps them, then we can say that they have formed as a nation

[Aitneics Secniv]

I mean, if it helps them lay down their arms and agree to peace, then we can tell them that they are a separate nation

[steelmaker]

“I believe that we have the ideology of February 1917”
Shakhnazarov would mind his own business, and not talk about political topics. 30 years have passed since the USSR did not exist, and did they do everything right? 100 years have passed, and all of 1917 is either Lenin’s or Stalin’s fault. And they don’t consider themselves to blame. Putin too, no no, yes, he still thinks Lenin is to blame. And the fact that everyone is “wiping their feet” about us, is it also Lenin’s fault and 1917?

[odisey3000]

Well then, according to Karen Shakhnazarov, there was no need to start anything, otherwise what he is talking about should have been done at the beginning of the special operation, such as creating a government in exile, announcing to the whole world about the illegitimacy of the Zelensky government, appealing to the people of Ukraine and to the military personnel of Ukraine, call new elections, determine Kharkov as the capital of Ukraine, appoint ministers there. And most importantly, create a new Ukrainian army from patriots of Ukraine from all its regions and, with the fraternal support of the Russian army, overthrow the bloody regime of Zelensky. Day and night, conduct information processing of the Ukrainian population in in the right way for us. This was not done. This is where the root of the problems is, our officials responsible for this piece of work failed miserably, and Mr. Shoigu, a distinguished PR man, is the last on this list. For the stupidity and incompetence of some figures in our government, we are now ours officers and soldiers pay with their blood.