Revolution of Peter I

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Revolution of Peter I
Triumph of the Russian fleet. Hood. S. Nesterenko 1994.


This article continues the story of the evolution of the Russian state, from the very end of the XNUMXth to the thirties of the XNUMXth century. The description of political events given in the article is related exclusively to this issue.



North War


The original plan for access to the sea was supposed to be in the south, in the fight together with the allies against Turkey. Peter, like many of his predecessors, understood the importance of allies and tried not to start a war without allies, or at least without neutralizing his warlike neighbors. Russian diplomats always actively worked on this, which is why the “Great Embassy” was created, which went to Europe in 1697–1698. During which it turned out that an alliance against Turkey in the current situation was impossible, but Denmark, Saxony and Poland, which had suffered from Sweden in the XNUMXth century, were ready to take advantage of the situation when fifteen-year-old Charles XII became king in Sweden.


Charles XII. Hood. D. Kronberg, XIX century.

Today, many are wondering how such a huge country as Peter I’s Russia waged a war against “little” Sweden for twenty-one years?

But, firstly, Sweden was the hegemon of the Baltic. Peter joined the alliance that was created by the elector and king of Saxony and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Augustus II the Strong, who initiated the war and attracted a strong maritime country, Denmark, to the alliance. And Sweden, in addition to the navy, had a professional army, which outnumbered the armies of Denmark and Saxony, without the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, combined.


Swedish Army units 1699–1709 Hood. O. Parkhaev.

The Russian army, although it was significantly larger than the Swedish one, required serious modernization. The country's borders did not allow it to be used entirely in the Swedish Baltic states.

Thirdly, any state in the medieval world was created along the path of war, and Russia was no exception. Gradually, with modernization, the capabilities of the Russian army and navy grew. It would be more correct to say that modernization began to work exclusively for these purposes.

As a result of incredible efforts and titanic work, the Russian army inflicted a crushing defeat on the Swedish army in the Battle of Poltava in 1709. Peter came to this victory naturally, through defeats and difficulties, of which there will be many more, and there will also be serious failures, as in the war against Turkey. As a result of the Poltava victory of Tsar Peter, the balance of power changed not only in the Northern War, but also in Europe.

Russia became the hegemon of Eastern and Northern Europe, and Karl turned from a “lion” into a “Delhi Bey” (mad ruler), as the Turks called him, where he fled with the Little Russian hetman-traitor Mazepa, who was counting on the victory of the Swedes.
For one reason or another, the war lasted until 1721. And it ended in a crushing defeat for Sweden, which nevertheless received back Finland, as it was unnecessary for Peter, and payment for the Baltic states.

What happened? Speeding up with a whip


Peter, in the course of his reforms in Russia, created everything almost from scratch: from factories to the fleet, from the modern monetary system of his time to new taxation, changed the customs and the very rhythm of life, especially of the noble class.

I repeat that historiographical, and behind them amateur, attempts to believe that Peter’s reforms were a continuation of the reforms of his father Alexei Mikhailovich (1629–1676) and brother Fyodor Alekseevich (1661–1682), sister Sophia (1657–1704), are only partly correct , since, as during the period of modernization in Turkey and Persia, they were of a superficial nature and did not affect the foundations of society, and therefore did not leave a significant mark on the development of society: as they came, so they left.

The army and navy required rapid improvement, but it was impossible to launch factories in an instant, and what was left of the previous renovation was unable to provide for either the army or the country without modernizing them in turn. Mass purchase of small arms weapons abroad occurred before 1710, and the cold one even in the second decade of the XNUMXth century. With the entry into operation of the Olonets factories and the modernization of the Tula factories, the need for imported small arms disappeared.


Russian army in the Northern War. 1704–1712 Hood. O. Parkhaev.

The same situation was with cloth, and with cloth enterprises (70% of imports), and the supply of metals from Europe. It is difficult to list what was supplied to Russia: salt, paper, books, ship models, coal, military equipment and ship equipment, tools and machines, etc., not counting the specialists who either set up new production facilities or carried out maintenance and repairs imported, for example watches.

Most of the manufactories, the construction of which was launched by Peter I, both through Russian and foreign merchant-industrialists, and at state expense, came into operation by the end of the Northern War and the end of the Tsar’s reign. And they will begin to bring results from the 40s, not without the participation of the current government, like this: 50% of the cloth for the army under Anna Ioannovna was already supplied by Russian manufactories. All these modernization actions of Peter, practically from scratch, led to victory in the Northern War for Russia, our country, which was then at an earlier stage of historical development than the loser.

If Peter’s grandfather and father carried out targeted modernization, then Peter carried it out comprehensively, improving primarily the upper class of the country, which made the results of modernization sharply more stable and created a foundation for the future. It also turned the ruling class of feudal lords into a kind of “Europeans.”

Advanced European innovations were able to take root on Russian soil, for example: scientific institutions, collective management systems, the Senate, Collegiums, industry and mining, and finally, the modern structure of management and construction of the army and navy.

But... without constant European replenishment, these structures could not work adequately then, because they were imported, and not natural, as in other European countries, where the countries there arrived at these achievements through evolutionary means. Because all these innovations were carried out in our country of early feudalism, and not in the state of early capitalism or late feudalism, from where they were borrowed.

I would not like readers to have the opinion that only Russia borrowed; Russia’s neighbor, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, constantly made technological borrowings at that time. All countries borrow technologies and institutions, but we are not talking here about Russia borrowing something, but about why this happened and how it was related to the social development of our country.

Through the cut window


After Peter’s reforms, we did not see any over-activity of Russian merchants in international trade markets.

“I tea,” the first Russian “economist”, entrepreneur of the time of Peter Ivan Pososhkov, reflected in his own way about international competition, “that all European residents are not happy about our ships, they need them alone to become famous and enriched "

Despite the fact that the volume of factory production in Russia has increased significantly, nothing new has been proposed for export. The same industrial products or raw materials remained in use. There could be no talk of any increase in the mass product necessary for foreign trade. And our merchants are becoming not independent players, but intermediaries, agents between foreign merchants and the Russian market, as was the case before. Because feudal Russia could not sell anything other than raw materials.

The attempt to achieve transit from the East to the North failed; the captured lands in Persia became “a suitcase without a handle” for the emperor’s heirs. As we wrote above, objectively for Russia, the path in the opposite direction was more important; the country widely opened its markets to Western goods.

The price of reform


Modernization together with the war, and here we are witnessing the mutual intertwining of events that cannot be separated, required colossal resources. From 1680 to 1724, the amount of direct taxes, taking into account the depreciation of the ruble, increased by 3,7 times, and total taxes - by 2,7. This caused the flight of peasants, the growth of numerous bandits of robbers who robbed noble property, and the Bulavin uprising of 1709.

On top of that, in 1723–1724. There was a crop failure and famine, however, all-European in 1724. Because all this, of course, was the price of reforms. In search of a solution to the problems to ensure modernization, tax reform was carried out in the fight against tax evaders. She transferred the object of taxation from the yard to the taxable person.

Comparison of household collection data for 1721–1723. to the poll 1726–1727 shows that for all categories of tax workers who paid additional taxes before the reform, the amount decreased (from 8 to 21%), and for landowner peasants who did not have additional payments, it increased by 62%.

Russian society, and especially the Russian peasantry, which became a serf, feudal-dependent class, lived in conditions of constant mobilization throughout the XNUMXth century. With the beginning of the XNUMXth century, this situation only worsened, since total modernization required dramatically greater resources and efforts.

The ruin of peasant farms, and after them the nobles, was caused by the overstrain of the country's economic forces during the war and the work of the primitive agrarian economy, in conditions of risky farming, at the limit of its capabilities.

Revolutionary on the throne?


It is often written in scientific and journalistic literature that Peter, having created a regular army, put on the same line both the serf recruit (slave) and the nobleman, who began their service as privates. But such a situation occurred only during a short period of intense struggle with an external enemy, when it was urgently necessary to increase the army. Peter the “revolutionary” did not change any social structure of society, and he introduced such an order for “pedagogical purposes”: to educate “soldiers” from the nobles who knew military craft from the very beginning, like himself.

Victories in the wars, in which both Russian classes and other class groups participated, brought benefits primarily to the ruling class, introducing it not only to modern military technologies, but also to the material world of Europe.

At the end of the 1682th and beginning of the 1723th centuries, the iconic elements of pre-class society were destroyed: tribal localism (XNUMX) and servitude (XNUMX). In comparison with the previous period, the feudal class, like the peasant class, took on a clear structure: the tax-paying population included everyone who did not have an officer rank, did not serve in the service, was not descended from Moscow officials, and did not have serfs. The “Table of Ranks” on the feudal soil of the XNUMXth century documented this situation, denying access to the ranks of the nobility to commoners.

It reflected the hierarchical structure that developed among the nobility in the XNUMXth century depending on the size of land ownership.

The development of this feudal hierarchy will lead to the fact that from the 60s only wealthy nobles will be able to serve in the guard. Of the 400 thousand former ordinary servicemen (small feudal lords) in 1730, 340 thousand were transferred to state peasants, and 60 thousand to townsmen. The isolated facts that among the tsar’s entourage there were people from different classes do not make Peter a democratic tsar. In general, through his actions, directly or indirectly, he contributed to the strengthening of the feudal class as the dominant one, standing above the urban class and the peasant class.

The nobility as a military class, with many excesses associated with service and its hardships, was the driver in governing the country and in war; war was a natural job for it.

The Europeanization of the nobility: face shaving, European uniforms and clothing, European fashion and, finally, the use of a different language marked the beginning of a sharp division between the two classes, as, indeed, in many early feudal states, for example, as in England after the Norman Conquest. This caused a huge gap between the classes.

The beneficiary of the modernization of the country and the victory in the Northern War, if you do not take into account historical The perspective that was extremely important for the future of Russia was exclusively the class of nobles.


Peter and Paul Cathedral. St. Petersburg. Architect D. Trezzini. 1712

External pressure in the form of fashion and material wealth pulled Russian feudal society into the world of commodity-money relations and led to increased exploitation of the feudal-dependent population throughout the XNUMXth century. Pososhkov defined the situation very clearly:

“What could they do to please their sovereign and in the assembly of the treasury to help, and not stop, then they, poor people, forgot that the very true land, which is under him, is not his, but the great sovereign, and he himself is not his own, but his they have majesty, but they don’t have the slightest bit of fear. And such an obstacle is in the hands of small landowners, but [about] powerful people there is no need to ask.”

As a result of Peter's modernization, next to it and as a consequence of it, the feudal system only strengthened. He was reliably protected from external influences and entered the stage of “high feudalism”, with the only difference being that the “knight of the XNUMXth century” had modern small arms and corresponding control technologies in war.

The nobility clearly realized its role in the process of governing the country at all stages from police to ... the search for minerals and even trade, especially in the armed forces. And the peasants, dependent on the nobles, began to be actively used not only in agricultural fields, but because of the “military revolution” and on the battlefields.

It is naive to believe that if the Russian army became “regular” under feudalism, then its social essence changed. The situation in Russia clearly emphasizes the dominance of the system over management structures.

During Peter's modernization and simultaneously with it, a society emerged to which the formula of feudal Europe of the XNUMXth–XNUMXth centuries can be applied. about those fighting, plowing... and praying.
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  1. +10
    23 September 2023 05: 26
    Thank you!
    Peter, in the terminology of his contemporaries, created a regular state. In fact, what he was doing was not a revolution, but reforms (projects). Moreover, most of them are due to evolutionary processes associated with the completion of the aspirations of the monarchs of Russia, starting with Ivan III the Terrible. Only the external forms (tracing copies) were revolutionary: assemblies, rags and beards. Even the fleet is a pressing issue that his predecessors Ivan IV the Terrible and Alexei Mikhailovich consistently tried to solve. The difference between Peter and his predecessors and descendants is that he was passionate and was not afraid to break everything and build again from scratch. Complexity in his reforms is precisely absent; there is comprehensiveness, or rather an attempt to cover everything at once.

    At the same time, the classic feudal formula: “about those who fight, plow... and pray.” to the structure of the post-Petrine state is controversial for the following reasons:
    The warriors (conditionally noblemen) made up a tiny percentage of Peter's regular army, formed by recruitment from peasants (conditionally plowing).
    Those praying were forcefully included in the system of government through the abolition of the Patriarchate. That is, they became one of the elements of the institution of coercion (executive power).
    Outside the feudal formula, there were foreigners who did not plow, wandered or were engaged in hunting and gathering. In some cases, without even suspecting that they are servants of the White Tsar. Since the last, yasak has been nothing more than a form of tribute, not a tax. Outside the formula were the serf workers of factories and factories. There were other contradictions as well.
    R.s. Many thanks to Eduard for the extensive and informative series of articles about the history of Russia. I repeat, you are smart!!
    With sincere respect, Vlad!
    1. +10
      23 September 2023 07: 33
      Vladislav thank you for your sincere words!
      After them, it’s somehow inconvenient to discuss. drinks
      Not for the sake of argument, but for science, I’ll say.
      Formula proposed by Georges Duby for France in the XNUMXth century. fully suitable for Russia in the XNUMXth century.
      Because if it weren’t for the “military revolution” and the development of technology among neighbors, it would have been practically a carbon copy.
      The fact that tax recruits were driven into the army with sticks and bayonets like sheep does not change matters.
      They were serfs and in the army. The next article is about this.
      As for the Prayers, then again, the subordination of the Church to the state has always been and in all eras in Europe, not all monarchs succeeded in this, but the list is endless (who managed to subjugate them into their service and under their control).
      Because in a feudal society there are no those who are not in the feudal hierarchy: for us it turned out this way, in other countries it’s different. But the church was everywhere built into the feudal hierarchy, the Pope himself was a feudal lord for kings. But the papal institution was illuminated by tradition and was not created by any monarch in medieval Europe, and in Rus' the patriarchate appeared exclusively thanks to the supreme power - the monarch.
      And about the tribute tribes and “peoples” - it’s like about the Indians, whose problems the sheriff doesn’t care about.
      But the serfs in the factories are pure specific feudalism: not hired ones, as they should be, but those who were sent there under bayonets and sticks! Much less feudalism! The workers never left the state of serfs. It’s just that under “classical feudalism” there were no such industries. But in the mines...
      I wrote a hundred times that there were strata that initially had no place in the feudal structure: Cossacks, Pomors, the same Ukrainian regiments (regions), but gradually all “found a place for themselves” in the feudal system (literally and figuratively): some into serfs, others into nobles.
      drinks
      Best regards,
      Edward
      1. +2
        23 September 2023 09: 03
        the subordination of the Church to the state has always been and in all eras in Europe,
        I think the word “always” is a bit of an exaggeration. Attempts to separate the state from the church began in the middle of the XNUMXth century. First, through the invasion of faithful people into the church hierarchy, sometimes successful (Bishop Odo), sometimes not (Thomas Becket). By the middle of the XNUMXth century, a rare monarch was afraid of a papal interdict if the benefit from his actions exceeded the price of “atonement for sins,” which was clearly proven by Philip the Fair. The apotheosis was the reign of the Catholic kings, who actually made the Spanish church autocephalous.
        Thanks Edward!
      2. +3
        23 September 2023 09: 04
        The fact that tax recruits were driven into the army with sticks and bayonets like sheep does not change matters.
        They were serfs and in the army. The next article is about this.

        Debatable! Serving soldiers received personal freedom. Many achieved personal and even complete nobility for the sake of their service. The system of social elevators is obvious. Peter's merit was that he forced everyone, both nobles and peasants, to serve under the threat of batogs. Moreover, the number of hereditary nobles in the Russian army has always been minimal. In my opinion, at the end of his reign, Peter created the most possible fair model, when some serve with blood, others with sweat. Remarque - the nobles began their service as soldiers. Unfortunately, his descendants (more precisely, his successors) spent centuries breaking his system. Proclaiming “personal freedoms” to the nobles (exceptions from this list are Peter III and Paul, who did not forget about the peasants). So, yes, the army was peasant, but far from being a serf army, it was professional, albeit with orders that would horrify any of our contemporaries. However, there were similar ones in all armies of the world without exception.
        As for serf workers, their similarity with serf peasants is only in one thing - personal lack of freedom.
        Since the second half of the 18th century, in addition to food rations for work, many factory owners paid cash. Here we must remember about another type of working people in factories - assigned peasants. The latter generally worked to pay off the tax burden to the state.
        Now for the priests. The latter in Europe are being integrated into the state apparatus with the collapse of feudalism. Before that they were subjects of the feudal system, after that they were cogs. This process was also observed in Rus', where before Ivan IV our church was one of the landowners, and later - the landowners.
        England went further than Peter in integrating priests into the executive branch, but this is the birth of capitalism.
        In fact, dear Eduard, our discussion boils down to only one thing - for one person the glass is half full, for another it is half empty!!!
        Overall, it's great!
        Regards, Vlad!
        1. +8
          23 September 2023 09: 10
          In fact, dear Eduard, our discussion boils down to only one thing - for one person the glass is half full, for another it is half empty!!!

          good good good
        2. +7
          23 September 2023 09: 39
          Vladislav,
          This is a misconception about the social structure model:
          In my opinion, at the end of his reign, Peter created the most possible fair model, when some serve with blood, others with sweat.

          Which is promoted to us today as exemplary.
          In the conditions of the “military revolution”, some served with blood, or could jump off, while others, without options: both sweat and blood.
          This does not negate the exploits of the Russian nobility in the war, which I have written about more than once, now not about exploits, but about the SYSTEM.
          Because in a class system, all the hardships of service and labor always go to the oppressed class and the strata adjacent to them.

          No, Peter did not create anything in this regard: this natural development of feudal society, especially since with sweat and blood everyone served exclusively the sovereign, and no one else. Understanding this essence is a key parameter for the development of society.
          And the second factor: how many in the XNUMXth century. soldiers became nobles? Specifically?
          And this was not allowed by decrees and actions.
          I write:
          Of the 400 thousand former ordinary servicemen (small feudal lords) in 1730, 340 thousand were transferred to state peasants, and 60 thousand to townsmen.

          Why weren’t they all transferred to “pillar” units? laughing nobles, but they were sent to serfs? Where is the merit in blood?
          Which of the soldiers came out and received freedom? The service was lifelong in the XNUMXth century
          Only in the coffin. Which nobility?
          The meaning is simple: if the state is feudal, everything is for the feudal lords; if it is capitalist, everything is for the capitalists. More on this in the next article.

          hi
          1. 0
            23 September 2023 11: 42
            I read and cried, with pure tears of tenderness and sublime patriotism... crying I can just see Peter l with a red bow on his camisole and a party card in his pocket....
          2. +2
            23 September 2023 20: 44
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            were transferred to state peasants, and 60 thousand to townspeople.

            Why weren’t they all transferred to “pillar” nobles, but sent to serfs?

            Sorry, but state peasants and serfs, as they say in one southern city, are two big differences!
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            Which of the soldiers came out and received freedom? Service was for life in the XNUMXth century.

            I completely agree with this, here my colleague made a mistake)
            Although... aged soldiers, or as they said then - disabled people, are still not serfs in the power of a master, but people of one way or another state. That is, for us, distant descendants, the difference is not so significant, but for them, perhaps, it is fundamental
            1. +1
              1 October 2023 17: 11
              What happened in England in the 13th century reached Russia in the 17th and 18th centuries. Not only did they gouge a developed country of socialism, but they again got into feudalism and again became an appendage of the West. What Peter the Great did was to return to the country and again serfs, although not explicitly, but they exist, they were sent to war, as under Peter No. 1.
  2. +5
    23 September 2023 05: 43
    During Peter's modernization and simultaneously with it, a society emerged to which the formula of feudal Europe of the XNUMXth–XNUMXth centuries can be applied. about those fighting, plowing... and praying.
    fool And before Peter, what did society do if not fight, plow and pray?
    1. +1
      23 September 2023 09: 18
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      During Peter's modernization and simultaneously with it, a society emerged to which the formula of feudal Europe of the XNUMXth–XNUMXth centuries can be applied. about those fighting, plowing... and praying.
      fool And before Peter, what did society do if not fight, plow and pray?

      This is an old argument between Eduard (the Author) and me. It’s just that Peter’s “regular state” is the closest to the understanding of feudalism among adherents of the theory of stages.
      Therefore, Edward could not pass by... laughing
      Although my personal opinion was that Russia was closest to classical feudalism during the reign of Alexei Mikhailovich Romanov. The local cavalry and clergy (before the schism) were typical classes of knights and priests, with maximum enslavement of the peasants. Peter, by systematizing the management of the state, created the inevitable prerequisites for the elimination of this system. However, they killed it for more than a century, and during the half of the subsequent second century nothing fundamentally new was invented.
  3. +3
    23 September 2023 06: 06
    Everything was so. But Peter’s reign awakened the interest of enlightened people in how things were going beyond the hill with science and art. Subsequently, all this will have a beneficial effect on the future of the country.
    1. -6
      23 September 2023 06: 40
      You shouldn't be doing that. Compare Petka’s rule with Borkin’s fathers-reformers-alcoholics. Petka broke the window to Europe. Borka went all the way to America. Both replaced Russian with Western.
      Petka firmly believed. what if you shave your beards? then the economy will rise.
      1. +10
        23 September 2023 09: 25
        Petka firmly believed. what if you shave your beards? then the economy will rise

        In addition to beards, he built factories, cities and ships. It is difficult to find a sphere of the national economy where Peter did not make his mark. EBN, on the contrary, killed industry, the fleet and cities. The only thing is that both loved to drink, but to love and to be able to are two big differences!!!
        I already wrote about Peter - with all his positive and negative qualities, he is ours.
        1. -4
          23 September 2023 11: 12
          There are things that are not at all clear. If cannons were fired in monasteries, for example Kirilo-Belozersky, why drop the bells? And with what delight he cut off the heads of the archers!
          Renaming Nyenschanz to St. Petersburg is no small achievement.
          How many ships built from damp wood rotted before going to sea? But the people pressed the tax. It was not without reason that the Bulavin uprising began. How is he ours if he transferred the signs and symbols of the Holy Roman Empire?
          By the way, why were some elevated to the dignity not of Russia, but of the Holy Roman Empire.
          This is how they will say about the struggle that he defeated the communists, but brought democracy to Russia.
          1. +3
            23 September 2023 12: 26
            You probably forgot about the mutiny of the archers; they didn’t just cut off their heads.
          2. +3
            23 September 2023 20: 53
            Quote: Gardamir
            If cannons were fired in monasteries, for example Kirilo-Belozersky, why drop the bells?

            It's a bit of a legend. That is, bronze, suitable also for bells, was borrowed from monasteries, that was the case, but nothing more.
            Quote: Gardamir
            How many ships built from damp wood rotted before going to sea?

            No question, just state the number. Yes
            Makhov wrote about this several times. The service life of Peter's ships was quite comparable to that of other powers.
            Quote: Gardamir
            It was not without reason that the Bulavin uprising began.

            Well, yes. Previously, Kondraty Bulavin had saltworks practically in his sole ownership, but now he had to share with the treasury. there was reason to be enraged! am
            Quote: Gardamir
            By the way, why were some elevated to the dignity not of Russia, but of the Holy Roman Empire.

            Not some, but all counts and barons. Simply because such titles had never existed in Rus' before. Only princes who were granted favors independently. But... not everyone can be a prince?
            The only exception is the Counts of Skavronsky, granted the title by Catherine I.
            But the situation there is exceptional, and the Roman Caesar did not want to bestow the dignity of count on yesterday’s peasants, even if they were at least three times relatives of the Russian Empress.
            1. ANB
              0
              23 September 2023 23: 13
              . Only the princes who were granted and independently

              Something says that one could become a prince only by birth.
              Do you have any examples of elevation to princely dignity?
              1. +4
                24 September 2023 08: 34
                Quote: ANB
                Do you have any examples of elevation to princely dignity?

                How much you want.
                Menshikov Alexander Danilovich - His Serene Highness Prince of Izhora from 1707 and Prince of the HRI from 1705.
                Orlov Grigory Vasilievich - His Serene Highness Prince from 1772
                Potemkin Grigory Alexandrovich - His Serene Highness Prince from 1776
                Suvorov Alexander Vasilievich - Prince of Italy from 1799
                Gollenishchev Kutuzov Mikhail Illarionovich - His Serene Highness Prince of Smolensk from 1812
                Paskevich Ivan Fedorovich - His Serene Highness Prince of Warsaw from 1831
                You can also remember the teacher of the children of Paul I, Charlotte Lieven, who was elevated to princely dignity and managed to pass this title on to her children.
  4. +2
    23 September 2023 06: 09
    I’m just curious how Peter I would have assessed the period of rule of the “statists” of the last, forty-year period of Russian history... Even the period since 1986...
    How not to remember here:
  5. +5
    23 September 2023 06: 23
    Thank you!

    “Ship models” are listed among what was sent to Russia.

    I wonder how large-scale this import was, and how much did it cost the treasury?
    1. +7
      23 September 2023 07: 40
      Sergey,
      good morning.
      I wonder how large-scale this import was, and how much did it cost the treasury?

      The ship models are listed on the list ordered from abroad.
      When I was a student on an internship at the Naval Museum, which was once located on the Exchange, they told (and showed) an amazing story about models.
      In England there was a rule that when a ship was built at a shipyard, a model of it was made, of course without equipment, only a section of the hull and left for storage at the Admiralty. The purpose is clear for what.
      Peter also introduced the same order for the Russian fleet. In London at the end of the XNUMXth century. there was a fire in the Admiralty and the models burned down. But in Russia, in the Navy Museum, they remained.
      Best regards,
      hi
      1. +4
        23 September 2023 08: 35
        Good morning Edward!

        When, for example, the famous sunken “Vase” was built, as far as I understand, there were no drawings as such.
        They built according to the model.

        I wonder how important uniformity was in the navy back then?

        There are successful samples and copy them. Although, apparently, not everything is so simple.
        1. +5
          23 September 2023 13: 08
          Quote from Korsar4
          When, for example, the famous sunken “Vase” was built, as far as I understand, there were no drawings as such.
          They built according to the model.
          Everything was worse there: the king poked his nose in. He demanded another row of guns to make the ship the coolest. They did it, but no one was able or willing to calculate the consequences.
          1. +3
            23 September 2023 14: 04
            Come on, blame the monarch’s nose, the bastion of modern democracy when laying down the two-deck battleship Constitution also made a mistake in the calculations and the lower battery deck had to be “patched.” She is still afloat as a frigate.
            However, even at the end of the century before last, warships were wrecked due to engineering errors. The most famous is the death of Her Majesty's battleship Captain.
            As for Peter, he stood at the beginning of the path of our naval school a priori. However, not only several decrees of Peter required reforms related to inland river navigation from the creation of newly invented river ships (not to be confused with the river-sea ships of the mid-18th century) and canals, to shipyards and admiralties (for example, the Kazan Submiralty). He did a lot to preserve the ship's timber. The Mariinsky water system alone was worth it! Or the Ilmensky bypass canal!!! By the way, their strategic importance is still invaluable!
            1. +2
              23 September 2023 14: 30
              Or the Ilmensky bypass canal!!!
              My friend, maybe Ladozhsky after all?
              1. +1
                23 September 2023 19: 03
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                Or the Ilmensky bypass canal!!!
                My friend, maybe Ladozhsky after all?

                As always, past the cash register... feel
                Thanks for the edit buddy!
            2. +1
              23 September 2023 18: 19
              Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
              Come on, blame the royal nose
              Information straight from the museum of this ship.
          2. +2
            23 September 2023 14: 25
            This is understandable.

            One consolation is that it has been preserved for eternity.

            But it turns out there were no calculations as such.
          3. 0
            24 September 2023 15: 06
            They did it, but no one was able or willing to calculate the consequences.
            Well, what can I say - “The party said “It is necessary” - the Komsomol answered “Yes”
      2. +2
        23 September 2023 22: 51
        Absolutely right, the tradition (or rather, the technological technique) of building mock-ups of buildings came from Britain. At that time there were drawings, it was unrealistic for all the shipyard workers to run to the model and use rulers to measure the sizes of the elements of the ship’s set and then multiply by scale. Of course there was design and working documentation. how to carry out the coordinated activities of hundreds of people without it. There were no accurate calculations then (and there are none now, otherwise there would be no need to test ship models in the experimental pool). There was personal experience, inspiration and the results of predecessors. The characteristics of the built ships were carefully collected and analyzed. There were tables of “averaged” data and these were the same models. Using the model it is easier to obtain the values ​​of the main body dimensions. A comprehensive analysis of the hull parameters, the history of the vessel's use, the requirements for the designed ship and much more made it possible to make informed design decisions.
        So these models are not toys, but an important element of the shipbuilding industry.
  6. -1
    23 September 2023 07: 25
    That’s why they renamed Petersburg-Petrograd to Leningrad, so that hating Peter, they would lock people all over the country, of course, into a cage like in pre-Petrine Russia. But it didn't work out. Women needed tights and men needed jeans (not everyone, after all, is a party organizer or secretary of a city committee, could get guipure panties for a woman and an imported Sony for his son, and in fact that’s why the country collapsed, the borders of the state which were expanded by the Russian Tsars, including the same Peter The great ones were thrown back 400 years ago with 20 million Russians abandoned there. Do you think the Brezhnev-Gorbachev communists thought that this was how they could waste Peter’s sublime Poltava or Stalin’s liberated Kiev? What do you mean! Before their eyes, all they saw was applause on their desks congresses based on postscripts, and in store windows there were no fashionable clothes or reliable household appliances, and for sausage made from meat in the Kalinin region, people traveled from Kalinin to Moscow. By the way, not a single military man stood up for such a country when it was collapsing. They stood up for Stalin’s breasts , but for Brezhnev-Gorbachev, no!
    If the reforms that Peter the Great managed to carry out during his reign were multiplied by the years allotted to Russia before Nicholas II, and if everyone further reformed Russia just as successfully, then Russia would be the strongest, the richest and the most loving country for its citizens.
    It’s only now that they deigned to begin to reclaim Poltava and Azov, which Peter had long ago assigned to Russia. The question is, why were they lost without a war and without a fight?
  7. +3
    23 September 2023 07: 46
    Peter realized that he could only advance his trade if he had a strong army and navy.
    1. +3
      23 September 2023 14: 22
      Quote from pavel.tipingmail.com
      Peter realized that he could only advance his trade if he had a strong army and navy.

      Peter knew how to set parities.
      For example, under him there was a ban on the export of grain, which resulted in low prices for products within the country. There were also other protective measures. It should be especially noted that he removed internal customs duties.
      It didn’t work out with the merchant fleet, though. Under Catherine I, we carried out only 5% of our turnover on our own ships, and then mainly with the Baltic countries. Later it was even worse.
      At the same time, he is perhaps one of the first monarchs of our patronymic who tried to implement the trans-Iranian corridor. If he had lived a little longer, perhaps the Caucasian and North Black Sea problems would have been solved 100 years earlier.
      To be honest, I have only one serious complaint against Peter, namely, that he did not leave a legitimate heir.
      1. +1
        24 September 2023 15: 39
        Peter knew how to set parities.
        Well, probably, it’s not parities, but priorities. What comes first, what comes second, and what is not necessary at all.
        At the same time, he is perhaps one of the first monarchs of our patronymic who tried to implement the trans-Iranian corridor. If he had lived a little longer, perhaps the Caucasian and North Black Sea problems would have been solved 100 years earlier.
        What is true is true. Well, he had no luck in the Asian direction, just like Ivan the Terrible in the European direction. The death of Bekovich of Cherkessk remained unavenged for almost 150 years
  8. +4
    23 September 2023 07: 48
    our merchants are becoming not independent players, but intermediaries, agents between foreign merchants and the Russian market, as was the case before. Because feudal Russia could not sell anything other than raw materials.
    Feudalism ended in 1917 at the latest. And what changed in the structure of exports?
  9. +1
    23 September 2023 07: 51
    But... without constant European support, these structures could not work adequately then

    But what about modern Japan, which received a small impetus from Europe in the second half of the 19th century, and then went on its own?
    1. +3
      23 September 2023 09: 06
      received a small impulse from Europe in the second half of the 19th century, and then went on its own?

      So that it does not go far since 1945. Japan was occupied by the United States.
      The Americans remade a lot in Japan in their own way, even samurai swords were melted down.
      Not to mention public institutions, while preserving the decorative external surroundings: kimano, geisha, karate, emperor, fugu, sushi and other rice noodles. laughing
      Japan was closely included in the system of capitalist relations with the United States, where it received technology, markets, and in return: sovereignty in exchange for rice, or rice with meat, and... with ketchup from an American corporation.
      Without this strict binding, like Yuzh. Korea, there would be no “economic miracle”. As soon as this genie got out of control by the 90s (Panasonic, Tayota conquered the world), Japan was quickly given a place in the hierarchy of the capitalist world.
      hi
    2. 0
      23 September 2023 13: 34
      Quote: Dutchman Michel

      But what about modern Japan, which received a small impetus from Europe in the second half of the 19th century, and then went on its own?

      Japan “went on its own” because it had nothing to sell except the labor of the Japanese people.

      And Russia has enormous wealth that has completely corrupted society.
  10. +6
    23 September 2023 08: 31
    Good morning!
    I'm reading the article. And the first thing I came across was confirmation of my own conclusion made some time ago:

    any state in the medieval world was created along the path of war

    It seems to me that the state was not only created, but also developed what was created. Especially in Europe - small countries, endless wars, as a result - the exchange of technologies, the forced creation of each of their own more advanced ones.
    1. +5
      23 September 2023 08: 51
      Good morning, Lyudmila Yakovlevna!

      This is a classic: Si vis pacem, para bellum.

      Nothing fundamentally changes.

      The path of peace and the path of war are combined.
      1. +2
        23 September 2023 10: 43
        Sergey, below I asked three questions.
        I would like to see your opinion, and not only yours)))
        1. +4
          23 September 2023 11: 10
          Hello, Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
          I didn't see a single question mark.
          1. +2
            23 September 2023 17: 15
            Hello Anton!
            The fuse is gone - put question marks.
            The formulated question turned out to be the answer.
            1. +1
              23 September 2023 17: 31
              This often happens to me: when I formulate a question, an answer arises.
              You are not alone in your throwing! love
              It’s just that you and I pose different questions... Alas... request
  11. +2
    23 September 2023 08: 56
    As Kuzma Prutkov said: “Look at the root!”
    the captured lands in Persia became “a suitcase without a handle” for the emperor’s heirs.
    They saddled under Peter, saddled the path to Persia, but Persia really couldn’t offer anything really, in the field of trade, Persia, at that time, could offer more.
  12. +3
    23 September 2023 09: 40
    The original plan for access to the sea was supposed to be in the south, in the fight together with the allies against Turkey.
    And what did this exit give in terms of trade? Yes, complete zero. It was possible to trade with Turkey through land, and other states besides Turkey did not have access to the Black Sea. For access to the Mediterranean, access to the Black Sea did not give anything at all. In peacetime, the Turks would have taken the same duties in the straits that they would have taken when leaving rivers partially controlled by Russia (Don, Dnieper) into the sea, and in wartime the exit would have been closed.
    What Peter really needed was to secure the southern borders of the country, and he understood that for this, the southern border had to be the sea with the Russian military fleet in it. But only Catherine succeeded.
    Here the access to the Baltic gave access to Denmark (which in those years was quite a power in both the military and commercial sense) and a considerable number of North German states. And with normal relations with Denmark, and with all other states of the north and west of Europe, up to Holland, England, France, Spain, and Portugal. And if desired, it was possible to go to the Mediterranean through Gibraltar. In terms of trade, such a long route was hardly profitable, but the military fleet under Catherine under the command of Orlov passed this way and arranged Chesma for the Turks.
    1. -1
      23 September 2023 22: 35
      Who told you that the Turks released someone into the Black Sea - all the exits from the rivers of the Black Sea basin were sealed with fortresses, the Don, for example, Azov and even Kerch.
  13. +2
    23 September 2023 10: 39
    A number of questions arose.
    1. Do I understand correctly that the Roman Empire, having crushed the entire surrounding space, among other things, fell because it had no competition with the external technological environment, there was no one to compete with in technology, which led to stagnation in social relations, - not to compete with the federates and not with the Huns with their bows and arrows, but endowed with the power of consolidating their human avalanche.

    2. Do I understand correctly that Peter the Great laid down a tradition, according to which the Russian Empire became technologically “catching up” with the West for centuries, and the USSR was unable to break the tradition, which led to the final stagnation and rotting of social relations, and therefore fell.

    3. Do I understand correctly that a war between a technologically backward empire and a consolidated community of technologically highly developed countries inevitably leads to defeat and fragmentation of the empire, or to the collapse of the entire human civilization.

    Thank you in advance for the cons)))
    1. +5
      23 September 2023 10: 57
      Signor, you ask three questions.
      It’s hard for me to answer alone.


      1. They say there are 500 versions of why Rome fell.

      Do not exclude the possibility of decomposition from the inside.
      Rome needed Hannibal, Mithridates and others.

      2. Every change of course has pros and cons. It is important not to move from side to side.

      3. The example of the Americans in Afghanistan.

      I think this is a question of the country’s stability in its structure.

      And here it is necessary that “Own Platos and quick-witted Newtons” were born.

      Now work. I'll be back. I hope you don't expect a universal answer to the search for the meaning of life.
    2. +5
      23 September 2023 11: 33
      Good afternoon Lyudmila Yakovlevna,
      I will answer briefly:
      A number of questions arose.
      1. Do I understand correctly that the Roman Empire, having crushed the entire surrounding space, among other things, fell because it had no competition with the external technological environment, there was no one to compete with in technology, which led to stagnation in social relations, - not to compete with the federates and not with the Huns with their bows and arrows, but endowed with the power of consolidating their human avalanche.

      wrong. I didn’t write about the Roman Empire at all.

      2. Do I understand correctly that Peter the Great laid down a tradition, according to which the Russian Empire became technologically “catching up” with the West for centuries, and the USSR was unable to break the tradition, which led to the final stagnation and rotting of social relations, and therefore fell.

      Wrong. Without Peter's modernization, Russia would not have existed a long time ago or there would have been something small.

      3. Do I understand correctly that a war between a technologically backward empire and a consolidated community of technologically highly developed countries inevitably leads to defeat and fragmentation of the empire, or to the collapse of the entire human civilization.

      This was not considered within the scope of the article.
      This is a question not from history, but from futurology.
      There have always been coalition wars in history.

      Best regards,
      hi
      1. +2
        23 September 2023 18: 00
        Edward:
        Not properly.

        So it was I, as always, who climbed up my bell tower, looked at the historical landscape (remember the campaign of the hero from “The Doomed City” together with a military expedition through history that seemed to come to life) and made my hasty conclusions.
        Here's another one.
        Without at all doubting the greatness of what Peter the Great accomplished, I cannot get rid of the obsessive thought about the system of modernization he laid down from under the imperial whip. They hit you with a whip - you modernize! They walked around - you sit upright. And everything looks as if an administrative pyramid has grown out of this approach, which has the only voice in this matter. So everything is still done according to orders from above, whereas in Europe everything grew out of the needs of society and the creativity of people. Nothing could stop this! The “Dark Ages” created conditions when no one interfered with the active ones. For example, banks turned out to be very popular, which indicated progress in the economy - the future capitalism was quietly and imperceptibly sprouted, itself sprouted, becoming a noticeable phenomenon by the 12th century.
        1. +2
          24 September 2023 16: 04
          whereas in Europe everything grew out of the needs of society and creativity of people.
          Oh really? That is, there is creativity, but here there is forced labor only on the orders of immediate management? Do you know, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, how holography was discovered (from Greek - recording of everything)? In 1947, Gabor (a Hungarian who worked in the USA) came up with a way to recover phase information from a medium, a photographic plate. It was the so-called axial holography, he used a mercury lamp. For this method he won the Nobel Prize, although no one really needed his scheme. In 1960, Leith and Upatnieks, using a laser, reconstructed the image from an off-axis hologram, which was much more useful. And then, in 1962, GOI engineer Denisyuk, inspired by I. Efremov’s story about three-dimensional images, managed to implement holography in thick recording media, and if all previous holograms were restored in the very color in which they were recorded, then Denisyuk’s hologram was restored in white color. Then Denisyuk became a corresponding member of the USSR Academy of Sciences. And in the West, his method is still called the Bragg hologram, although Bragg has nothing to do with it at all. This is about the so-called. "freedom of creativity" in the West.
    3. +1
      23 September 2023 12: 41
      Why did Peter the Great establish the tradition of backwardness? Before him, Russia was at the forefront of Europe?
      Technologically developed countries are very sensitive to losses, and the high cost of weapons and army maintenance leads to the fact that they cannot fight for a really long time and intensively.
      By the way, the current situation in the USA is interesting. There is a very large shortage in the army. They are already taking everyone. This is not propaganda. My friend lives there. He has a son in the cadets, he visited several military bases and communicated with both active military personnel and retirees. Funding is being cut. A lot of money goes to Ukraine. Salaries are low compared to civilians and many do not see the point in serving. Plus, some people are afraid that they will have to go to fight in Ukraine. And when a person has been sitting in a warm place in the States all his life, such a prospect is not very encouraging...
  14. +6
    23 September 2023 10: 53
    "Revolution of Peter I" is not a completely correct name.
    Rather, Peter “expanded and deepened.” Russia, as it developed in a certain direction, continued with the arrival of Peter.
    About the “window to Europe” - someone very well noted this. It's a window, not a door!
    You can look, you can feel the “putrid” smell, but you can’t go out.
    1. 0
      1 October 2023 17: 33
      In general, it turned out not to be a window, but a window, which is now visible. You can't swim much in a closed reservoir.
  15. +2
    23 September 2023 11: 56
    A couple of years ago (give or take the delta) I became concerned about the banking system - when did it arise?
    With great surprise, I learned that in Ancient Greece there were refectories - such establishments with currency exchangers, and loans were issued at brutal interest rates - take it, use it, develop technology! I cannot resist the pleasure of quoting:
    The first non-cash payments were also made there by crediting and debiting funds from customer accounts. That is, the first cash settlement services were carried out. In addition, the ancient Greek temples provided loans from those. Already in the XNUMXnd century BC, in a number of megacities such as Thebes, Hermontis, Memphis and Siena, there were so-called royal banks, where funds from collecting taxes and income from state enterprises were accumulated. And the money was spent on public needs, for example paying salaries to soldiers. savings that were stored in them.

    Well, and so on.
    But there were wars - what kind? With an approximately technologically equal enemy, or with tribes. Everything revolved around shields, swords and protective camouflage, wall-breaking and throwing weapons - well, except that the Trojan Horse turned out to be original, a piece of production.

    What about Ancient Rome?
    And in Rome the banking system of the format of the exchanger and Russian Post was already in full swing. Currency was exchanged by mensars in mensarries, and funds were raised in agents, loans were issued, and funds were transferred between agent cities. Noble people were heavily involved in banking activities (the word “bank” appeared later).

    Why did I talk about this? Because money is the lifeblood of the economy, investments are the engine of progress, an opportunity for brilliant and simply gifted and active, but poor single people to start their own business if an original idea comes to mind. This is how a wealth of traditions that contributed to technological progress took shape in Europe. Since ancient times, every European has developed a knowledge of what the banking system is and how to coexist with it to their benefit.
    I don’t know how to coexist with the banking system, I’m afraid of it)))
  16. +2
    23 September 2023 13: 01
    During Peter's modernization and simultaneously with it, a society emerged to which the formula of feudal Europe of the XNUMXth–XNUMXth centuries can be applied. about those fighting, plowing... and praying.

    Yeah, and right before that
    And the peasants, dependent on the nobles, began to be actively used not only in agricultural fields, but because of the “military revolution” and on the battlefields.
    In general, it’s disgusting: why weren’t the recruits made nobles? They are fighting... In such situations, nobles are not needed.
  17. 0
    23 September 2023 17: 13
    Peter 1 was needed in order to, as is already known, cut a window to Europe.
    Therefore, all these Swedes and Cossacks who interfered with Europe and the Catholics were squeezed between the Poles and Peter’s army.
    Yes . For Germans and Catholics it is their own.
    1. +2
      23 September 2023 21: 09
      Quote from DiViZ
      Therefore, all these Swedes and Cossacks who interfered

      especially the Cossacks! laughing
  18. Fat
    +5
    23 September 2023 17: 42
    hi Hello Eduard. Unfortunately, the articles about Peter seemed to me too overview, without “details”. There's not even anything to argue about. smile
    Nevertheless Thank you very much.
    1. +2
      23 September 2023 23: 15
      Good evening,
      something like that.
      Thank you for rating.
      hi
  19. +3
    23 September 2023 21: 00
    After Peter’s reforms, we did not see any over-activity of Russian merchants in international trade markets.

    This has happened before. For example, at the conclusion of the Stolbovsky Peace, Russian merchants were given some, well, not just privileges, but rights for trade. So the merchants found out about this ten years later, and then by accident. Moreover, when they got seriously involved in trade, Gustav Adolf defended their rights before his officials much more actively than the Russian government) request
  20. -5
    23 September 2023 22: 24
    Well, you see the name of the author and everything becomes clear.
    In general, a humanist cannot be a historian, but only a tendentious graphomaniac. Any political figure has one evaluative criterion - the development of productive forces. And Peter was precisely one of those who achieved this growth, and so that Russia became one of the leaders, together with Britain, in the field smelting iron and cast iron. The reduction in price of these types of products immediately led to an increase in labor productivity and an improvement in the lives of all categories of the population of the Republic of Ingushetia. The growth of the economic power of the Republic of Ingushetia led to an increase in exports and, subsequently, political influence in the Caucasus, Asia, Eastern Europe and other regions.
    But give Eduard export to an enlightened Europe, without this it will be unsafe.
    In general, known facts are presented and completely incorrect conclusions are drawn. Count for the article!
  21. -1
    23 September 2023 22: 31
    Quote: depressant
    This is how a wealth of traditions that contributed to technological progress took shape in Europe. Since ancient times, every European has developed a knowledge of what the banking system is and how to coexist with it to their benefit.

    What monstrous nonsense...Money is simply the equivalent of a commodity and that’s all. There is no commodity, there is no value of money. Technical progress set traditions, not traditions, technical progress, being determines consciousness, and the economic basis determines the superstructure. But all these obvious things, for local pikemen vests, alas, are not available. What is the reason - this is an interesting question.
  22. +1
    23 September 2023 22: 37
    Quote: parusnik
    They saddled under Peter, saddled the path to Persia, but Persia really couldn’t offer anything really in the field of trade, Persia, at that time, could offer more

    There was a path to Persia even before Peter. Russia had new export goods - iron products and manufactured goods.
  23. 0
    23 September 2023 22: 41
    Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
    It should be especially noted that he removed internal customs duties

    For this reason, he introduced duties on the import of some goods, such as needles, after organizing his own production. But for the authorities of the Russian Federation, this is a simple way to increase productive forces, why it is not clear.
  24. -1
    23 September 2023 22: 44
    Quote from pavel.tipingmail.com
    Peter realized that he could only advance his trade if he had a strong army and navy.

    Peter realized that it was impossible to have a strong army and navy without a developed metallurgical industry; without it, melting bells would not be of much help.
  25. +2
    23 September 2023 23: 14
    Edward, question
    Here's a big quote: "Advanced European innovations were able to take root on Russian soil, for example: scientific institutions, collective management systems, the Senate, Collegiums, industry and mining, and finally, the modern structure of management and construction of the army and navy.
    But... without constant European support, these structures could not work adequately then, because they were introduced, and not natural, as in other European countries, where the countries there came to these achievements through evolutionary means.
    "
    What is the inadequacy of the state apparatus? The Senate wrote decrees and laws, the collegiums worked in their own directions, the army fought and not badly, the navy too. very modern Charters were written for the navy and army. Factories and manufactories increased their output. They became an empire and laid the foundation on which they successfully defended their geopolitical interests throughout the 18th century.
    1. +2
      23 September 2023 23: 23
      Good evening Vladimir,
      I am writing about this:
      They became an empire and laid the foundation on which they successfully defended their geopolitical interests throughout the 18th century.

      I wrote:
      "without constant European support, these structures could not work adequately then..."

      Those. there was recharge - it worked.
      Until the 30s. XVIII century - 100%
      hi
      1. +2
        23 September 2023 23: 31
        Okay, then what do you mean by recharge? And the assessment of “adequate” and “inadequate” is incomprehensible to the state apparatus. The essence of the complaints?
        1. +1
          24 September 2023 17: 11
          Vladimir,
          Good afternoon, I didn’t see your answer yesterday.
          Not certainly in that way. I did not write adequately or inappropriately about the state. apparatus.
          I wrote about innovations in all directions that could not work and develop until the 30s. no foreigners.
          The same applies to various other introductions: at the Academy, etc.
          As regards specifically the state. management, then of course the point here is not in writing decrees, but in how this system works.
          In scientific works, in contrast to general books about the 18th century, where everything was from victory to victory: information about crises in the state. crisis management, lack of finances for wars, etc.
          What I already wrote about in continuation.
          Best regards,
          hi
          1. +1
            24 September 2023 19: 14
            Edward, to complete the discussion in this article, I will note the following:
            - war is a super crisis, crisis management is not very easy. During a war, any state always lacks money. Management always works “raggedly”, sometimes making glaring mistakes, but also taking brilliant steps (I mean the states that ultimately won). Take the period of 100 years, plus or minus, and the wars of France, Prussia, and Britain. There were so many mistakes, difficulties, rash actions and good or bad luck. I read the correspondence of Frederick the Great during the Seven Years' War. The flair of the genius of a genius falls away, a completely different personality is seen (but that’s a separate story).
            - If we consider the arrival of European specialists as fuel for Russia, then this will certainly speed up the development process. BUT! This is a common point for all countries. The exchange of technology carriers in Europe was not just typical, but dominant. If you look at how quickly inventors rushed around Europe on the eve of the industrial revolution and subsequently, Britain, France, Prussia, even America (its technical development is a separate story). Everything mattered: price levels, government support, patent law, market saturation.
            We needed to hire more specialists and wait longer, about 20 years, until a new generation was created that grew up in Russia. This is a natural growing pain.
  26. 0
    3 December 2023 12: 04
    So, our scale is shifting more and more to the right. A couple of articles ago there were no classes before Ivan the Terrible. Now to Peter. Just look, classes will suddenly appear under Alexander the Second.