Azerbaijan gets good chances for a big breakthrough in Transcaucasia

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Azerbaijan gets good chances for a big breakthrough in Transcaucasia

Since the second half of August, one after another there have been reports about another aggravation of the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh, artillery is periodically used, activity is increasing at various international platforms, and there is a series of diplomatic scandals between Yerevan and Moscow.

Numerous sources and media resources are increasingly releasing reviews and comments with openly alarmist content, warning that the aggravation threatens to develop into a military crisis. Azerbaijan is massing troops to Nagorno-Karabakh, and Armenia is moving to its borders.



On the other hand, against all this alarming background, we can read a message from the fairly informed Reuters resource that more than 70% of the text of the peace treaty between Azerbaijan and Armenia has already been agreed upon. But then, what do all other sources testify to, since the text of the agreement is not written by Reuters, but by the diplomatic departments of Yerevan and Baku (although not only there)? Oddly enough, there is no contradiction between these positions.

At first glance, the general outline of the events around Nagorno-Karabakh is clear. However, when they begin to understand the processes in detail, in detail, it turns out that around this small region of Transcaucasia there are so many players and their interests tied in different combinations of nodes that the analysis becomes similar to reading a detective story written in Sumerian cuneiform.

Recently, the American pop diva K. Kardashian (with all her host of fans) added her clay tablet to this cuneiform detective story, asking J. Biden “prevent another genocide" In terms of weight for the domestic American agenda, this sign may mean even more than some diplomatic efforts. But not now - it will be used a little later.

The scandals that have accompanied relations between Moscow and Yerevan over the past week were predictable in principle, although in such processes the exact dates depend on too many circumstances.

They, in fact, finalize the relationship between Moscow and the current government under the leadership of N. Pashinyan. It is appropriate here to quote a paragraph from previous material by the author, which was released at the end of March and is dedicated to the sensational decision of the Constitutional Court of Armenia on the ratification of the so-called. "Rome Statute" of the ICC.

“We cannot simply leave Armenia without agreement with Tehran, but even after the decision of the Constitutional Court of Armenia, the account of our active presence there, if nothing changes, will go “for a while.” We cannot bring the Karabakh clan back to power, time is running out, so it is better to use these few months to seat Tehran and Ankara at the table opposite each other and gradually reduce their direct presence.”

At that time, this was perceived by many as an overly straightforward vision of a position in a confusing stories. Several months have passed, the time that was written about is almost up.

It’s not for nothing that Yerevan has been very actively spreading messages over the last few days that “N. Pashinyan is being removed from power","Moscow secretly transfers Wagner to Armenia", etc. Numbers are quoted from 2,1 thousand to as many as... 12 thousand people.

As part of these narratives, “agents of Moscow’s influence”, the famous pro-Russian blogger Mikael Badalyan and Sputnik Armenia journalist Ashot Gevorkyan, were apparently detained (now released).

On the one hand, with this, supporters of N. Pashinyan’s line, just in case, prevent internal destabilization on the part of pro-Russian forces, on the other hand, even realizing that these are clearly not Moscow’s methods, they add fertilizer to the soil of negotiations with Paris and Brussels, where these messages, naturally , are taken seriously. With this, N. Pashinyan is trying to achieve European and broader Euro-Atlantic security guarantees.

Not least connected with this is the demarche associated with holding exercises with NATO, where what is important is not so much the fact of the exercises (they are not being held for the first time), but how it is presented and against what background.

The Eagle Partner 2023 exercise is being held in Armenia from September 11 to 20 and is aimed at testing

“stabilization of relations between conflicting parties when performing peacekeeping tasks.”

Such is the visit of N. Pashinyan’s wife with humanitarian aid to Kiev for the summit “Mental Health: Resilience and Vulnerability of the Future,” which is held under the patronage of V. Zelensky’s wife, and which periodically brings together the spouses of top officials of a number of states. In this case, the Queen of Sweden, the wives of the leaders of Austria, the Czech Republic, Cyprus, Turkey, as well as W. von der Leyen. N. Pashinyan knows what he’s doing—it’s almost impossible to officially undermine such a composition and agenda as purely “anti-Russian.” Or rather, you can dig, but there will be no effect.

Everyone understands everything perfectly, but it’s difficult for the Russian Foreign Ministry to rely on this and somehow formalize it. The answers will come through diplomatic channels of the same type - the mission to Kyiv is humanitarian, the exercises are “peacekeeping”. And Azerbaijan also supplies humanitarian aid to Kyiv. These are not simple moves, but well-calibrated ones.

Russian diplomacy, which traditionally works in the “old-fashioned” style, according to rules that are often difficult to perceive within society, interacting with official Yerevan and N. Pashinyan’s cabinet, constantly encounters such tricks. One can only relatively imagine how much this specific format of relations brings the Foreign Ministry’s traditionalists to a state of white heat. But that’s what it’s all about.

The narratives being promoted by the liberal wing of politics in Yerevan are simple at heart: “Russia supplied weapon It did not help Azerbaijan defend Karabakh in 2020” or “Russia cannot unblock the Lachin corridor, its peacekeepers are useless.”

However, they are quite intricate in terms of specific diplomatic execution, such as the example of NATO exercises or a visit to a summit under the patronage of E. Zelenskaya.

In terms of the peacekeeping mission, our forces generally find themselves in an interesting situation. On the one hand, in winter “civil activists” of Baku block the highway for supposedly environmental reasons, and in the summer they find weapons, as well as armed people, in cars that seem to be coming from Armenia.

All sides talk about provocations, but they come from both sides. In such a situation, it is impossible to fully perform any functions, especially since there is also a mission from the EU working at the same time, which either monitors the humanitarian situation or assesses the quantitative and qualitative composition of the forces and assets of Iran and Russia in the region.

Why was Russia's peacekeeping mission doomed to failure in such a situation? After all, other international peacekeeping contingents in such a situation could not do anything more than “record violations.”

This is true, but they have a sanctions baton sticking out from behind their back. It is this, and not a pistol, which peacekeepers cannot simply take out of a holster, that is the basis, the basis for preventing provocations.

There is no possibility for significant sanctions or willingness to apply them, and such a mission will gradually become a formality, and who will take advantage of it and how is another matter. Next, we should answer the question: were we ready to impose sanctions against one or the other side, especially in conditions when policy is often determined by lobbying resources, albeit under different correct theses for all the good and against all the bad? The answer is obvious.

In theory, it would be possible to use UN sites, making the peacekeeping mission functional at least for careful monitoring, but here it was the alternative “Brussels format” that was critically important to N. Pashinyan. It makes no sense to play on the side of one player if he is playing for a third party at all.

Two factors have been and remain for the continuation of our efforts to “gnaw granite” in Nagorno-Karabakh: the factor of Iran, which is categorically against Baku’s aim to go deeper than Karabakh itself - to the Zanegezur corridor, and the fact that the curtailment of the mission will inevitably affect the attitude towards Russian bases in Armenia. In fact, there is a direct correlation in the current conditions between “peacekeepers and bases”.

The Iranian direction is a priority for Russia today, since full-fledged regional trade is finally unfolding there: an agreement on a large-scale abolition of tariffs and duties is being prepared, a new comprehensive agreement is being prepared, and ruble-rial payments have been launched. All this took a long time and the wheels creaked, but in the end the results are on the way.

Some time ago, in the Russian expert segment, there was a very popular thesis that R. Erdogan, faced with the consequences of an earthquake, inflation, the need to prepare for elections that he “would not be able to handle,” would actually leave his active position on Karabakh, Syria, Libya, even Cyprus and Greece. They say that Turkey needs almost 100 or even 500 billion dollars to stop the crisis, etc.

It is difficult to say what motivated this exceptional optimism. The author has previously published several materials where it was described that the earthquake will only slow down the amplitude of Ankara in these directions, inflation in the context of the specific Turkish model and the strengthening of its European vector will not be a critical problem, Taking into account the regional breakdown, the Turkish president will win the elections with a ratio of votes close to the traditional one.

Accordingly, in the summer Turkey continued to support Baku in terms of military decisions, another thing is that it did not advertise its steps much. Ankara never left an active position even during the difficult spring period.

And on the 4th, Turkish Foreign Minister H. Fidan specially arrived in Tehran to discuss, among other things, the Transcaucasian direction, and Iranian representatives were, according to a number of reports, in Baku during the week, where the vision and plans of the parties on the Karabakh issue were discussed. Considering how tense relations between Iran and Azerbaijan were in the spring and summer, this says too much about the time that has passed.

The fact that N. Pashinyan is, in fact, turning to NATO today suggests that the bet on the “Brussels format” is not justified. Brussels, under pressure from the United States, is preparing the ground for expanding cooperation with Turkey up to a new format of integration, and in this case it would be very strange if right now there was talk of any potential sanctions at all.

Over the summer, the contours of a possible operation by Baku both in Karabakh and beyond became clear, which manifested itself through the parties’ attempts to test the military and diplomatic ground. And, apparently, the set of preliminary actions is considered sufficient there.

Now the most promising operation for Baku looks like an operation in Nagorno-Karabakh to disarm the remaining militia there, with the expectation of a military response (in any form) from the territory of Armenia. Then the answer is "to escalation by Armenia and attacks on the territory of Azerbaijan».

Next, either a limited operation in Armenia with access to a new track of international negotiations, or a sharp strike with the goal of crossing the forty kilometers separating Karabakh from Nakhichevan, again with access to negotiations. And even Baku does not need to “annex” anything - after all, the Zangezur corridor was already part of the package of agreements from 2020, and it is better to work on its implementation from the strongest possible positions.

Russia and the CSTO in this situation will be forced to intervene, and there is no doubt that they will somehow intervene, but Baku’s route is too short not to hope for a quick breakthrough, with access to the diplomatic track after the fact. It was not in vain that Iran held an almost combined-arms army opposite the Armenian border for six months in advance. The so-called is simply too small. Zangezur corridor.

The Azerbaijani troops have (sufficient) experience, and the distances are short, despite the very difficult terrain. Actually, in this negotiating position, Baku, if successful, can finally complete the very 30% of the peace treaty that Reuters mentions. And therefore, there is no contradiction between messages that, on the one hand, speak of an impending crisis, and on the other, emphasize that the peace treaty is already close to finalization.

Iran worked against this scenario for Baku on the one hand, and the reluctance to spoil relations with the EU and the United States on the other. Actually, even now Yerevan will still make attempts to rely on these resources, for which it is already taking demonstrative steps, where the skirmish between M. Zakharova and the Chairman of the National. collections by A. Simonyan is only the tip of the iceberg.

It would be nice for N. Pashinyan to “stay” with the American “peacekeepers”, but the fact of the matter is that for Washington, a much greater result is that even with limited success, Baku, with the maximum possible, is put on edge The issue is not only Armenia’s participation in the CSTO, but also the very presence of Russian military bases there. You can stay as a guest longer, just to observe the development of events.

It is difficult to say how well supporters of N. Pashinyan’s line understand this, because, among other things, Yerevan receives economic benefits primarily from working in the EAEU. By the way, this is constantly mentioned in our Foreign Ministry, and through other official channels, but there is no feeling that the liberal wing in Armenia hears this.

In this situation, it would indeed be logical for Russia, as its “partners” from the United States usually do, to rely on the internal political and social resource in Armenia itself.

But we, on the one hand, do not have sufficient experience for this in cultivating a loyal opposition, although even its presence does not at all guarantee results. On the other hand, while we cling to military bases and past patterns of relations, we really look strange - those narratives that liberals are actively broadcasting in Armenia, it turns out, have some basis.

But this shouldn’t be, it shouldn’t look like this. In theory, taking into account reports of a possible escalation, we should gather the CSTO, prepare for the transfer of additional forces, but we cannot do this without official Yerevan, and when our forces are not there, we will hear from the political wing of N. Pashinyan, as usual , “did not prevent.” Only the moment will be much more acute.

There is an important point in this story - if we at least start a serious discussion about the withdrawal of our forces from Armenia and a preventive review of relations between the EAEU and the CSTO (which in the end we will have to do anyway), this could try, on the contrary, to activate pro-Russian forces in Armenia. Another thing is that this will require the highest class of media training. Although whether there is time left for it is also a question.
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  1. +5
    12 September 2023 04: 35
    Azerbaijan gets good chances for a big breakthrough in Transcaucasia

    So let him “tear”...Russia does not have enough problems in Transcaucasia to be completely happy...
    When will these bare-ass imperial ambitions stop... It's time to worry about Russian statehood and ideology, and not bury your head in the sand like that crazy ostrich...
    1. +5
      12 September 2023 05: 34
      Yes, this is no longer a matter of empire, empire is rather Africa, Transcaucasia is close and it is absolutely not a fact that we need to lose ground there. However, what has been done in 30 years cannot be reversed in one day.
      1. -3
        12 September 2023 22: 14
        The right of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh to self-determination is undeniable - Supreme Spiritual Council of the AAC

        The position of the Armenian authorities regarding the recognition of NK as part of Azerbaijan, which does not have any moral and legal justification, absolutely does not correspond to the collective expectations and national interests of our people, the statement says.

        The sovereignty and territorial integrity of Armenia are undeniable, as is the right of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh to self-determination. In connection with the current situation, the Armenian authorities are obliged to take measures that will unite the potential and capabilities of national, political and public structures in Armenia, NK and the diaspora.

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      2. -1
        12 September 2023 22: 17
        Viktor Krivopuskov: I will defend Armenia and Artsakh, despite Pashinyan’s provocations against Russia

        The actions of the Armenian authorities can be called state terrorism. This was stated by the head of the Russian Society for Friendship with Armenia Viktor Krivopuskov.

        As previously reported, a prominent Russian figure who arrived in Yerevan early this morning was not allowed into the territory of the Republic of Armenia without explanation.

        “The situation was not explained. At passport control they took my passport and took me to the duty room, where I stayed for 4 hours. Since I arrived at about 6 o’clock in the morning, we were waiting for the authorities to appear. They recognized me and said that “they are not able to resolve these issues.” In the end, they took me to the arrivals hall, from where I could not go anywhere, since they had my passport, and they started processing the return ticket. I was supposed to fly on August 30 on an Aeroflot flight. The Ambassador of the Russian Federation, public and political figures of Armenia got involved,” said Viktor Vladimirovich.

        “We all understand perfectly well what this is aimed at. Firstly, this can be called state terrorism. If Zatulina and Margarita Simonyan were warned about their undesirability, then no one warned me. I flew to the country that I love, defended and defended the people of this country for more than 30 years and am the head of the Russian public organization of Friendship and Cooperation with Armenia. The conscience should have worked for the political and state leaders of Armenia to inform them upon departure that Krivopuskov is an undesirable person for the Armenian people,” the interlocutor continued, noting that “apparently, I will be preparing a lawsuit against the government of the Republic of Armenia.” .

        “The first was Zatulin, then Margarita Simonyan, now me. One can imagine the joy Pashinyan brought to Aliyev and Erdogan. Almost my entire life is connected with Armenia and the Armenian people, with all the ensuing circumstances, starting with Karabakh. In all difficult periods, I spoke and speak in defense, and will continue to speak, despite the fact that Pashinyan provokes against Russia. I do not regard myself in isolation, but as an integral part of Russian politics. Therefore, what happened is unprecedented. Goes (Pashinyan - ed.) to break. If we don’t wash, we just roll... Even with such shameful facts. And the Russian leadership condones Pashinyan. They forgive him everything, even pat him on the shoulder and encourage him,” says Viktor Krivopuskov.

        When asked whether what happened fits into the general picture of the Armenian authorities’ refusal of Karabakh, the interlocutor emphasized: “My position on Karabakh is known, my participation in the final period of the Soviet Union, my book “Rebel Karabakh.” It is clear that the Anglo-Saxons do not forgive anything. Pashinyan himself hardly read my book; I am more than sure that what happened was written by the Americans. And he did it brilliantly to the delight of Aliyev and Erdogan, they are using the opportunity to mock both me and Russia.”


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      3. -1
        12 September 2023 22: 18
        There are sufficient grounds to assert that the population of Artsakh is under threat of Genocide: Juan Ernesto Mendez

        At the end of August, a preliminary report by Argentine lawyer, first UN Special Adviser on the Prevention of Genocide and former UN Special Rapporteur on torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment Juan Ernesto Mendez on the situation in Artsakh was published.

        The preliminary conclusion was given at the request of the Permanent Representative of Armenia to the UN. It said it was deepening questions related to the humanitarian consequences of the ongoing blockade of Nagorno-Karabakh, which violates legally binding decisions of the International Court of Justice.

        “Concrete measures are needed related to the prevention of violent crimes by mobilizing the preventive potential of the UN,” the report says.

        Also with this document, Mendes raised the alarm: “There are sufficient grounds to assert that the population of Artsakh is under threat of genocide.”


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    2. -2
      12 September 2023 21: 53
      Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Artsakh Sergey Ghazaryan.

      – Do you admit that the efforts of Stepanakert and Yerevan at the diplomatic level can force Baku to remove the checkpoint in the Lachin region? What tools are there for this? Do you believe that Baku will comply with any demands without force?

      The parameters and mode of operation of the Lachin corridor are determined by the Tripartite Statement dated November 9, 2020, in accordance with paragraph 6 of which unhindered land communication between the Republic of Artsakh and the Republic of Armenia is established. Control over the Lachin corridor should be exercised exclusively by the Russian peacekeeping contingent. However, it should be emphasized that the position and actions of the Azerbaijani side completely contradict both the spirit and the letter of the Tripartite Statement mentioned above. In this regard, ensuring strict and unquestioning compliance by Azerbaijan with all agreements reached within the framework of the Tripartite Statement, including on the Lachin corridor, becomes an urgent task. To achieve this goal, it is necessary to unite the efforts of not only Stepanakert and Yerevan, but also those participants in the Tripartite Statement who are truly interested in ensuring stability and compliance with established obligations.

      Moreover, international actors who have welcomed the Tripartite Statement and now view it as the cornerstone of the current security architecture in the region must also do their part to ensure the stability of the region.

      The tripartite statement, signed on November 9, 2020, does not imply any presence of Azerbaijan in the Lachin corridor, not to mention its exercise of any control functions. This point of view was confirmed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation on February 28, 2023, who, following a meeting with his Azerbaijani counterpart, clearly emphasized that the creation of checkpoints in the Lachin corridor is not provided for in the Tripartite Declaration. Legally binding decisions of the International Court of Justice confirm Azerbaijan's obligation to “ensure the unimpeded movement of people, vehicles and goods along the Lachin corridor in both directions,” which excludes the presence of a checkpoint in the Lachin corridor.

      Since the closure of the Lachin corridor - first under the pretext of “eco-protest”, and then by unilaterally establishing a checkpoint on April 23 in violation of the Tripartite Declaration - Azerbaijan has been consistently trying to sever the existing natural deep ties of the people of Artsakh with Armenia, depriving them of identity, self-sufficiency and opportunity for development. Azerbaijan is systematically and systematically creating unbearable living conditions in Artsakh in order to force the people of Artsakh to accept its ultimatum conditions.

      Blocking the Lachin corridor and imposing Azerbaijan’s position on the people of Artsakh through starvation and coercion are part of the genocidal policy of official Baku. Consequently, we are talking about the responsibility of the international community and, first of all, global actors for preventing the crime of genocide and we proceed from the fact that these states and organizations have the appropriate resources and tools to prevent such a crime against humanity. We hope that they will use the full range of possibilities to avoid catastrophic consequences.
      I would like to emphasize once again that preventing genocide is not only a right, but also an obligation of all members of the international community.

      – Is there a certain group of officials in Stepanakert responsible for conducting negotiations with the Azerbaijani side?

      Since the end of hostilities in 2020, through the mediation of the Russian Federation, meetings have been periodically held between the Artsakh and Azerbaijani sides, during which a number of technical and humanitarian issues were discussed, including the restoration of vital infrastructure.
    3. -2
      12 September 2023 21: 59
      This will be repeated as long as it goes unpunished - Dmitry Zhuravlev about Baku’s actions against the residents of Artsakh

      Russian political scientist, General Director of the Institute of Regional Problems Dmitry Zhuravlev commented on the latest kidnapping in the Lachin corridor and described ways to resolve this issue.

      Dmitry Zhuravlev believes that only if such actions are punished will the detention of Artsakh residents by the Azerbaijani authorities stop. “This will be repeated as long as there is impunity. People are stolen either to put pressure on other people or to create a nervous atmosphere.

      If it had been the first case, they had already put forward some conditions: “We will return it, but you…”, etc. Since this is not the case, it means there is a second option - simply destabilization of the psychological state, and this can last forever if it is not stopped. The criminals must be punished! As soon as they are punished, kidnappings will immediately disappear,” the expert noted.

      As for ways to resolve the current situation, Zhuravlev believes that international organizations and the activity of the Armenian side promise success in this difficult matter. “In order to carry out this punishment, active activity and sufficient resources are needed. I have no doubt about the activity of the Armenian side, but whether there are enough resources to protect people from such attacks is a question. Well, of course, raise the question in international organizations ", the expert concluded.
    4. -3
      12 September 2023 22: 00
      But no matter how Baku’s politicized historians mislead their people and the world, the facts and documents gathering dust in the archives silently but categorically refute the lying thieves of foreign lands. Using the example of one or two Armenian villages of Artsakh, one can very clearly trace the treachery and lies of Azerbaijani politicians, and also conclude that the policy of pan-Turkism has always been at the basis of the 100-year history of Azerbaijan.

      So, according to the Caucasian calendar 1856. the village of Garar (Arar) was listed as an Armenian village in the Zangezur section of the Shemakha province, where only Armenians lived. According to the 1897 census, 523 people lived in the same village of Garar, and all of them were Armenians.

      The village suffered during the Armenian-Azerbaijani war of 1918-1920. At the end of November 1918, after, at the request of the British, Andranik Ozanyan stopped the offensive on Karabakh, undertaken to support local Armenian partisans, the Transcaucasian Tatars destroyed Garar and the Armenian villages of Spitakashen and Petrosashen, the three remaining Armenian villages between Nagorno-Karabakh and Zangezur, thereby dividing the two mountainous regions.

      In 1921, according to the population census, the village residents were all Armenians. In 1923 When the NKAO was formed and the boundaries of the region were determined, the authorities of the Azerbaijan SSR managed not to include the village of Arar in the list of settlements of the autonomous region in order to avoid the presence of a common border with the Armenian SSR.

      In 1924 the leader of Nagorno-Karabakh at that time, Armenak Karakozov, was somehow miraculously able to achieve the return of the village of Arar with a population of 85 people to Nagorno-Karabakh (protocol number 3 of the Central Election Commission of the A.O.N.K., January 20, 1925, NKR State Archive, f1. o.1 storage unit 17, St.2 p.58).

      It is noteworthy that 1918 people lived in Arar in 1078 before the Turkish-Azer invasions and massacres (TsGIARA, f. 150, sp1, d. 59, l. 5).
      By 1930, there were no Armenians left in the village of Arar; it was again separated from the territory of the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Okrug.

      Jafar Baghirov, who during this period served as Chairman of the Cheka and People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the Azerbaijan SSR and as a member of all commissions on territories and borders, together with his agents - provocateurs, murderers and cattle thieves, contributed to the policy of territorial exclusion from Armenia and NKAO , the expulsion of the autochthonous Armenian population of the Aghdam, Kurdistan, Jebrail districts who returned to their villages, where, according to the 1926 census, 2525, 307, 525 people lived respectively (All-Union Population Census, 1926, volume 14, Az. SSR, table 10, p. .61, 71, 66).

      A similar fate befell other Armenian villages in NKAO. Already at the post of Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the Azerbaijan SSR, Bagirov in 1933. The village of Gyulably in the Martuni region, which was part of the same collective farm with the Armenian village of Norshen, was torn away from the Nagorno-Karabakh region and transferred to the Aghdam region of the republic.

      And July 13, 1933 In an incomprehensible way, Baku created a new “international collective farm” consisting of the same Turkish village of Gyulably (already!) in the Agdam region and the Armenian village of Avdur in the Martuni region of the NKAO (see the newspaper “Khorurdain Karabakh”, July 17, 1933)!
      So, first, part of the lands of Norshen, then Avdura went to the Agdam region when such an “international collective farm” was disbanded.

      In order to seize new Armenian territories in Baku, the heads of the regional districts were called under various pretexts, where Bagirov and his entourage were called upon to show restraint,
      The most unyielding and intractable were physically eliminated (for example, the corpse of the 1st secretary of the Mardakert district party committee was brought from Baku in 1933) and cynical condolences were expressed on behalf of the leadership of the Azerbaijan SSR regarding the untimely death or accidental death.

      Thus, the Azerbaijani authorities, even at the dawn of the formation of the USSR, tried in every possible way to tear Nagorno-Karabakh away from Armenia, as well as to reduce the number of Armenians in the region to zero.


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    5. -2
      12 September 2023 22: 01
      LIKE IN THE 20-30s. In the XNUMXth century, ARMENIA TORE AWAY FROM ARTSAKH: WHY WERE ARMENIAN VILLAGES OF ARTSAK INTENTIONALLY COMBINED WITH AZERBAIJANIAN VILLAGES.


      Today, Azerbaijan’s policy towards Armenian Artsakh and the Armenian community in general is based on falsification and distortion of historical facts. The most important and important thing in the politics, ideology and historiography of Baku for 30 years now has been to prove to itself and the world that the territory of Artsakh and Armenia is nothing more than “ancient Azerbaijani lands.”
    6. -2
      12 September 2023 22: 02
      “Triumphs” of Nikola and the tragic history of the Armenian genocide: a historian about Pashinyan’s “twists”

      Russian historian Oleg Airapetov, commenting on Nikol Pashinyan’s statement that Russia in 1915 left the Armenians alone with Turkey, thereby making a geopolitical choice, says that “the person who now heads the government of the Republic of Armenia should immediately consult a narcologist . What he says and does is not a subject of historical or political logic, it is a subject for the investigation of a psychiatrist or a narcologist.”

      It is obvious that Russia has been and remains at the moment the only consistent defender of Armenia and the Armenian population of Karabakh. And it is precisely this fact that does not suit Pashinyan. This explains what he calls politics, including his statements regarding history.

      And now, briefly about what really happened, the expert says. Let's start with the fact that the problem of the “Armenian question” appeared long before 1915. For the first time, the Armenian question was raised in the order of international relations by the Russian authorities, at the request of representatives of the Armenian public, when signing the San Stefano Peace Treaty of 1878.

      Russia came out in defense of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during the Abdul Hamid massacre of 1894–1896, which killed about 300 thousand people. About 50 thousand refugees from Ottoman Turkey found salvation on the territory of the Russian Empire; Russian society and the state provided them with significant assistance, including financial assistance.

      It was Russia in 1912-1913. was the initiator of reforms to create Armenian autonomy in Turkish Armenia, which the Turkish government curtailed, taking advantage of the outbreak of the First World War.

      The Armenian Genocide took place in 1915, and this was not the first massacre. Yes, it was the largest. Systemic. But Russia not only did not intend to “leave the region” at that time, but vice versa. The Russian army was advancing on the Caucasian front.

      After the October Revolution, on September 20, 1918, the head of the People's Commissariat for Foreign Affairs, G.V. Chicherin, sent a note of protest against the violence against the Armenian population to Constantinople, which stated that the Ottoman authorities had thus themselves eliminated the conditions of the Brest Peace.

      In December 1920, history repeated itself with the Treaty of Alexandroprol. The Dashnaks started the war without preparing for it and lost it. Appeals to France, England and the USA for help did not lead to anything, and only the intervention of the Red Army then thwarted the transformation of Armenia into a Turkish protectorate.

      According to Oleg Airapetov, Pashinyan is an ignorant person. This ignorance is entirely consistent with his political agenda. That is, he does not suffer from manias and phobias, but enjoys them. His strengths are qualities that everyone else would consider disadvantages. So, for him, ignorance and political intrigue in this case should not be opposed, but united.

      It was he who wrote the “famous” article, the expert emphasizes, in which he said that we need to abandon the legacy of our ancestors, who left us too many problems and too little land. His behavior during the second Karabakh war, his numerous recent statements about the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, about the symbols of Armenia, including the country’s coat of arms - all this accordingly adds up to a fairly complete picture. Pashinyan abandons the historical heritage of Armenia. He is starting a new era. My. Nikolism-Pashinism.

      This is in order to distract public opinion and remove responsibility for the obvious catastrophe of the Armenian population in Karabakh. And right now, when only Russian troops are the guarantor of the existence of Armenians in Karabakh.

      “And that’s why they are the enemy of Nikolashe-nidvorash.” I spoke, wrote and repeat. This same Nikol will not leave either a stake or a courtyard from the republic,” says the historian.

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    7. -3
      12 September 2023 22: 06
      Azerbaijan has set a course for expansion in Central Asia

      The capture of Artsakh, as the events of August show, is far from the only goal of Baku. Aliyev, with the active support of Turkey and the West, intensified the expansion of the countries of Central Asia. The goals are not only economic, as stated during negotiations, for example, with the leadership of Uzbekistan. But also political ones - preparing the ground for the future “Great Turan” led by Turkey.

      Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan have already signed an agreement on the creation of the Supreme Interstate Council, and also announced the launch of a number of economic and humanitarian projects. Experts note that for Tashkent, Azerbaijan is one of the most successful states in terms of attracting investments with a successful history and successful interaction in defending their interests. This is in many ways the model that serves as a guideline for cooperation for Uzbekistan.

      But more important is the fact that the Organization of Turkic States (OTS), as the first association of Turkic states, was created back in 1992 in Ankara. But then there was a big pause in the development of the UTG - the largest Central Asian country, Uzbekistan, was disgusted by Turkey’s dominance in this union, so the country’s president, Islam Karimov, began to distance himself from this association, and without Uzbekistan it was losing its integrity. But in November 2022, during the summit in Samarkand, the idea of ​​Great Turan was returned to. Baku became the “negotiator” for Uzbekistan’s return to the project - in terms of cultural and linguistic proximity, after all, Azerbaijan is much closer to Uzbekistan than Turkey.

      The expert community and even Russian scientific circles believe that “Great Turan” is not a fantasy, but a real project of Erdogan.

      Immediately after the summit, military exercises between Turkey, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan took place in Ankara. In recent years, military cooperation between Ankara and Central Asian countries has become more intense. The military alliance of the Turkic states is considered one of the ideas of pan-Turkism, which, through the soft external expansion of the “Turkic world”, provides for the creation of the “Great Turan” and the “Army of Turan”. If we recall the active support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from both Baku and Turkey, it becomes clear that this could become a serious threat to Russia’s security in the region.


      Understand.
      https://t.me/voiceofArtsakh
    8. -1
      12 September 2023 22: 07
      https://t.me/golos_artsakha/7275

      Anthem of free Artsakh
      , share on social media. networks friends, spread it so that the whole world can hear the anthem of Artsakh
    9. -1
      12 September 2023 22: 09
      Chronology of the existence of Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh):

      760-590 BC - Artsakh, called “Urtekhini”, or “Artakhini”, is part of the Kingdom of Ararat

      590-330 BC - Artsakh is part of one of the two Armenian Achamenid satrapies.

      330-200 BC - Artsakh is part of Yervandid Armenia

      190 BC - 387 BC - Artsakh (Roman authors have Orhisten) is part of great Armenia

      387-651-Artsakh, administratively, part of Caucasian Albania (under the rule of the Persian Empire), but under the control of Armenian princes.

      651 - 822 - Artsakh is part of Armenia (Armenian Autonomous Emirate, under the rule of the Arab Caliphate)

      822-1045 - Artsakh is part of the Kingdom of Ani.

      1045 - 1590 - Artsakh - an independent Armenian state (Khachen Principality), with a break for 1201 - 1360, when it was an autonomous part of the Principality of Northern Armenia (recognition of the supremacy of the Georgian branch of the Bagratid dynasty).

      1590-1751-Artsakh - semi-independent Armenian feudal state, part of the Persian Empire (except for the period 1722-1728, when it was independent of it)

      1751-1810 - Artsakh, is part of the Karabakh Khanate (then the word “Karabakh” was attached to it), which was part of the Persian Empire.

      1810 - 1918 - Artsakh became part of the Russian Empire, administratively part of the Elizavetpol province

      1918 - 1920 - Artsakh - an independent Armenian region governed by the Armenian National Council. Its final status is considered the subject of peace negotiations in the League of Nations.

      1920-1921 - Artsakh was transferred to the Azerbaijan SSR by the Soviet authorities, but as an Armenian autonomy. At the same time, Azerbaijan, according to international law, is not a subject of international law, but only an internal administrative-territorial unit of the USSR, a state that no longer exists.

      From 1991 to this day, Artsakh is a de facto independent state, separated from the USSR (and not Azerbaijan, as some think), dependent on Armenia, its final status should be determined by peace negotiations and for this purpose the OSCE Minsk Group was created.

      Image: Doors of the 13th century Gandzasar Armenian Apostolic Monastery in the Martakert region of Artsakh

      Know! Apply it!
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      1. +1
        12 September 2023 23: 09
        You forgot the Udinov wink
        My ex-wife is Lachka + Udinka, she would tell you everyone whose Karabakh is there wink
        No offense, but the story is so complicated that it would be better for Pashinyan not to play politics at all.
    10. 0
      12 September 2023 22: 11
      Map of the Roman Empire at its peak.

      Oops. Where is the country called Azerbaijan? She's gone. Probably such an ancient country that it was a shame to indicate it on such a modest map next to young countries...

      Know. Apply it!
      https://t.me/voiceofArtsakh
    11. 0
      15 September 2023 12: 35
      The pro-Ukrainian position of official Baku is not an accident

      Baku does not recognize the recent elections in new regions of Russia, which supposedly “cannot have any legal force,” according to a recent statement by the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry, which expressed support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine within the 1991 borders. In turn, Kiev supported the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, condemning the presidential elections in Artsakh on September 8.

      The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova called the demarche of official Baku an “unacceptable assessment” that is not consistent with the allied level of relations, advising the neighboring country to treat Russia with the same respect that it expects in relation to its territorial integrity.

      In connection with the exchange of remarks against the backdrop of a seemingly fairly “smooth” dialogue between the foreign ministries of Azerbaijan and Russia, some observers are wondering why Baku could not at least remain silent? It seems that the answer is quite obvious - Azerbaijan’s support for the Kyiv regime is complex, including political, diplomatic, economic, humanitarian, media, propaganda and military components. In particular, shipping in 2022-2023. electric generators and other potentially dual-use products have already become a reason for not entirely complementary comments on Smolenskaya Square. Evidence appeared on social networks and telegram channels that the Ukrainian Armed Forces militants were armed with products from the military industry of the Caspian republic, actively supported by Turkey and Israel.

      With the start of a special military operation of the Russian army in Ukraine in February 2022, pro-Ukrainian actions periodically took place in Azerbaijan, and the number of anti-Russian publications in the information space completely controlled by the authorities (including “historical” claims to the Derbent region, and even to the whole of Dagestan) increased sharply . Since 2020, under the pretext of pandemic restrictions, the land borders of Azerbaijan have been closed (at least until October 2 with a possible extension), which, in addition to serious inconveniences, raises questions about the fate of the western section of the International Transport Corridor “North-South”. Moreover, according to reports from Southern Dagestan, neighbors regularly build new dams along the right bank of the border river Samur in order to change its course and move the border hundreds of hectares deeper into Russian territory, which threatens to flood several Lezgin villages in Dagestan.

      Probably, the dispatch of humanitarian aid to Artsakh by the Russian Red Cross was also agreed upon, not without problems and contradictions. Apparently, pressure has also seriously increased on the Russian peacekeeping contingent in the remaining Armenian part of the region, whose unconditional withdrawal in 2025 (or even earlier) is strongly demanded by many Azerbaijani commentators and experts. In their opinion, Russian military personnel should ensure the most trouble-free “integration” of the local Armenian population into Azerbaijan, and then get out, because Russia, according to the intensely disseminated narrative, was doing nothing but inciting conflicts between two neighboring peoples, interfering with the Azerbaijanis and Armenians live together peacefully.

      Obviously, what is seen from the banks of Absheron as Moscow’s increased dependence on Baku and Ankara in the context of sanctions pressure from the West is considered a sufficient reason and basis for choosing a more decisive tone throughout the complex of Russian-Azerbaijani relations. And, probably, the hour is not far off when the quantity of contradictions will develop into quality, which, especially taking into account the quite confident behavior (to put it mildly) of the Azerbaijani diasporas in many Russian cities, is fraught with negative consequences for internal stability in Russia. Sweeping existing problems and contradictions under the rug under stormy reports about “unbreakable friendship,” as evidenced by the experience of other neighboring republics, is unlikely to lead to a positive result.
    12. 0
      15 September 2023 12: 40
      ⚠️ In Azerbaijan, they thought of conducting a survey on the topic “conducting a special operation in Karabakh.” Over 70% for military actions

      “Do you think that Azerbaijan should conduct new military operations against “illegal armed groups” in Karabakh?”:
      ◾️ 71,3% of respondents answered the question affirmatively
      ◾️ 24,1% of those who took part in the survey took the opposite position and said that they did not want new military action.
      ◾️ 4,6% of respondents found it difficult to answer this question.

      The survey was conducted by the Center for Social Research.
      Data collection for the current survey took place from September 8 to 11, 2023. The surveys were conducted in the form of a telephone interview and involved 390 respondents over 18 years of age.

      An era of peace - they said...
    13. 0
      15 September 2023 13: 00
      There are two interests in the escalation in Transcaucasia - the USA and Great Britain: Alexey Leonkov

      Russian military expert Alexey Leonkov @apleonkov commented to Alpha News on the escalation of tension on the border of Armenia and Artsakh with Azerbaijan.

      “The situation around Armenia and Artsakh is developing in a difficult way. It is clear that there is a certain tension and escalation, and here everything does not depend on the position of Azerbaijan, because everyone understands that its position is based on how those who are trying to manage the escalation will look at it in Transcaucasia.

      There are two such interested parties - the USA and Great Britain, who are now suffering a clear defeat in the (Northern Military District) and want to create a new “Second Front” in Transcaucasia.

      What is happening in Armenia is a clear sign of this. Those. any provocation can become a Casus belli, but it is clear that the “face” command will be given only when it is considered necessary. Those. Azerbaijan will only be able to go and create something there - a conflict or shelling, when this is agreed upon with those actors who are trying to oust Russia from Transcaucasia," Leonkov said.

      A military expert gave a forecast on the actions of official Moscow if Azerbaijan decides to invade Artsakh.

      "What will Russia do in this case? The peacekeepers in Stepanakert - we need to remember our peacekeepers in South Ossetia. When hostilities began against the Ossetians, that same “War of the Three Eights” (08.08.2008), Russia sent in troops not only to protect its peacekeepers, but also in order to save the local population from genocide. That is, it is quite possible to repeat the same scenario in Artsakh,” Leonkov believes.

      "I think that Russia is now working through two scenarios. The first is to prevent this escalation. The second is how it will act taking into account what happened during the 44-day war. And I think that this scenario will be different from that what happened in 2020,” summed up Alexey Leonkov.
      @alphanewsam
    14. 0
      15 September 2023 13: 08
      State Duma deputy Konstantin Zatulin called for unblocking the Lachin corridor

      To avoid war in Transcaucasia, it is necessary to unblock the Lachin corridor, this was the opinion shared by the first deputy chairman of the Committee on CIS Affairs, Konstantin Zatulin. He called the Kremlin’s statement about “analysis and monitoring of the situation” after Armenia’s refusal to conduct CSTO exercises with Russia “very weak.” Zatulin noted that Moscow should act more decisively in this matter, since the region “stands on the verge of a new war.”
      “I don’t see the point in non-interference in the internal affairs of Armenia, which was observed previously. Due to the fear of disrupting the status quo after the 2020 war, we are now on the verge of a new war. I believe that the Lachin corridor should be unblocked. There is no longer a question of which side we support, we stand for justice,” Zatulin said.
      The deputy recalled that Russia has taken on the peacekeeping mission.
      “Without special status, I don’t believe in guarantees for the population, and Azerbaijan is not going to give it, because it is important for them to cleanse this territory and either expel or assimilate the Armenian population. Does this coincide with our interests? I’m sure no, which means some action needs to be taken,” he added.

      Stay in touch.
    15. -1
      15 September 2023 13: 13
      Baku’s position is absolutely hypocritical and cannibalistic - Alexey Anpilogov

      Russian political scientist Alexey Anpilogov commented on the position of Azerbaijan, which is delaying the humanitarian cargo of the Russian International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in Artsakh.

      “Azerbaijan is now playing a shameful double game, and, on the one hand, statements are almost at the level of presidential aide Hikmet Hajiyev, who stated that an allegedly agreement in principle had been reached on the simultaneous unblocking of the Lachin corridor and the road to Agdam, but at the same time accused Artsakh authorities are that it is the Artsakh side that refuses this kind of agreement. It’s the same as extending a stick to a drowning person, but at the moment when he reaches out for this stick, he immediately pulls it back and says that it is himself doesn't want to be saved.

      We all understand perfectly well that the humanitarian crisis has been developing in Artsakh for months, and this is the position of official Baku, that the drowning person himself does not want to be saved, it is, of course, absolutely hypocritical and cannibalistic,” Anpilogov said.

      The expert notes that the goodwill of the Armenian side was not perceived by the Azerbaijani side as a step towards a constructive solution to the situation.
      “At the same time, it is worth understanding that the Russian cargo that was supposed to be sent along the Agdam-Askeran road in the direction of Stepanakert is the cargo of the Russian Red Cross, i.e. it is an absolutely humanitarian cargo that is designed to save the unbearable situation that has developed on the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. Moreover, the Armenian side agreed that this cargo should follow the road through Agdam, which is perceived as a certain concession to the Azerbaijani side. But this concession was not accepted as an act of goodwill, but rather was regarded as an act of weakness. And therefore, Baku now, verbally recognizing both the humanitarian crisis and the importance of unblocking transport corridors, continues the blockade of Artsakh and considers the humanitarian crisis as a lever of pressure on Stepanakert and partly on Yerevan in order to close the issue of Armenian Artsakh in the wording that Baku needs. there is complete subordination of the Armenian de facto autonomy to the interests of official Baku,” the political scientist believes.

      According to Alexey Anpilogov, all actions of official Baku are nothing more than an attempt to influence Artsakh in order to stop the desire of the local population for independence.
      “The most likely is the continuation of such a policy of extending and pulling a lifeline in order to keep the humanitarian crisis in Artsakh completely unresolved, but on the other hand, not to allow the presence of international observers, any resonance in relation to the fate of the Artsakh Armenians, i.e. it is possible at some stage, now cargo will again be allowed through, after which the corridors will again be blocked. And this is the policy - not to let it drown on the one hand, and on the other to keep Artsakh on a starvation diet - this will be the position of Baku, which, in its opinion, should pacify any attempts to autonomize the Armenian population of Artsakh,” concluded Anpilogov.

      Stay in touch.
    16. 0
      15 September 2023 15: 01
      Artsakh is the main obstacle on Azerbaijan’s path to NATO, Russian political scientist Fyodor Voitolovsky said during the ACSI round table in Yerevan.

      And this is against the backdrop of the fact that the Alliance is actively trying to integrate the countries of the South Caucasus, in particular Georgia and Azerbaijan. While remaining loyal to the United States, Turkey has complete carte blanche for the closest possible cooperation with Azerbaijan, with the goal of seeing it as part of NATO in the future. To do this, Baku needs to resolve territorial disputes with Armenia, and if they are resolved in favor of Azerbaijan, this will open the opportunity for deeper integration of the country into the Alliance.

      Stay in touch.
    17. 0
      16 September 2023 23: 34
      Armenia is being prepared for surrender: Pashinyan wants to lose the war

      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan is going to lose a new war with Azerbaijan. Lose confidently and fearlessly. He involved his country in a cunning but completely insane intrigue, because he went not against his history, but against the laws of geopolitics.

      To begin with, how events are developing between Armenia and Azerbaijan, how they are presented in the news.

      Pashinyan said in an interview with the Italian newspaper La Repubblica that Armenia can exist without Russian security guarantees, and invited NATO to joint exercises. Therefore, Azerbaijan immediately prepared its armed forces to finally recapture all of Nagorno-Karabakh. In response, Armenia began to pull its armed forces to the border. Now between Baku and Yerevan there is no such intermediary as Moscow. Everything is heading towards a new war between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

      "In fact, Armenia is really in a risk zone. For centuries, the Armenians found themselves prey to conquerors. They were exterminated, they were destroyed from different sides. And they were a toy in the struggle for influence between Turkey and Persia. But when Russia came to the Caucasus, from this moment, at least part of the Armenian population considered themselves protected. And even despite all the problems associated with the October Revolution and the Civil War, the Armenians retained their statehood in the form of the Armenian SSR, which, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, turned into independence. This is the price of Russian patronage ", recalled the first deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, head of the Institute of CIS Countries, Konstantin Zatulin.

      We know that the Armenians have a powerful lobby in both France and the USA, but there is one important problem. Geopolitics is based on the fact that large countries always secure the right to use neighboring states as their own markets and as an opportunity to obtain inexpensive raw materials. Armenians move to rich states and even form communities there. But in reality, neither for France nor for the United States, the territory of Armenia itself is neither a market nor a natural resource. Just far away. That is why Armenia is of interest to nearby states: Turkey, Iran and, first of all, Russia. But since Russia, currently busy with the Ukrainian issue, does not react to the situation in Armenia, Turkey still has its hands free.

      “In fact, Azerbaijan is not an independent player. Despite all its capital and capabilities, it acts in the wake of Turkish politics, it has become too integrated with it. And Turkey, by the way, in between meetings with Russia in the West, always says: “This It’s not us who are moving east, it’s the NATO country – Turkey – that’s moving east, it’s NATO that’s moving east.” So we need to see the forest for the trees when we talk about Turkey’s policy in this region,” added Konstantin Zatulin.

      The loss of Nagorno-Karabakh will not be a tragedy for Pashinyan himself. Because by losing territory, Pashinyan will strengthen his own power.

      “The government of Nikol Pashinyan is absolutely not interested in its compatriots in Nagorno-Karabakh. It has demonstrated this. Moreover, it treats them with distrust, because all of Pashinyan’s political opponents, Pashinyan’s predecessors as head of Armenia, were in one way or another connected with Karabakh, came from it or took decisive steps there in their political and public career. And accordingly, Nikol Pashinyan has always been distrustful of the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh. But since it is unpopular to renounce part of the Armenian people, for the time being it was quite hidden," says Konstantin Zatulin.

      Thus, Pashinyan will shout that Nagorno-Karabakh, or – as they call it – Artsakh, will be lost due to the fact that Russia did not help. But in reality, simply because he doesn’t need Artsakh. And perhaps he will be able to strengthen his power in the rest of Armenia. But the laws of geopolitics are much stronger than any of Pashinyan’s twists or our own indifference. Peacefully or militarily, the Russian Empire will be recreated. And there is no escape from this.

      Material (https://ren.tv/blog/andrei-dobrov/1141187-pashinian-khochet-proigrat-voinu) "REN"
      DOBROVEFIRE program from September 14, 2023
    18. 0
      20 September 2023 23: 42
      ROSS 42 (Yuri Vasilievich). September 12, 2023 04:35. NEW . your - "...It's time to worry about Russian statehood and ideology, and not bury your head in the sand like that crazy ostrich..."

      THIS PART IS EXACTLY NEEDED good , + Finally, begin to resolve the issues of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation. Learn from the “sworn partners” reasonable PROGMATISM (what is the use of the Russian Federation from another crazy freeloader and the reasons for the DEATH OF OUR GUYS.- “...20.09.2023 22:38
      https://tsargrad.tv/news/nekrasivaja-istorija-ubijstvo-russkih-mirotvorcev-v-karabahe-detali-o-kotoryh-zabyli-rasskazat_871344
      AN UGLY HISTORY: THE KILLING OF RUSSIAN PEACEKEEPERS IN KARABAKH - DETAILS THAT WE FORGOT TO TELL ABOUT
      The expert commented on the ugly story of the murder of Russian peacekeepers in Karabakh. He provided details that everyone forgot to mention. Russia needs to change its approach... Shlepchenko emphasized that Russia should no longer rely on the prudence of its partners when it is trying to reconcile nations that hate each other. From now on, she needs to act only from a position of strength or not get involved in someone else’s conflict at all.
      ...Otherwise, sending insufficiently numerous and armed contingents is nothing more than turning our people into hostages of someone else’s war,” the observer added.
      Political scientist Marat Bashirov was also surprised that Russia believed that everyone would play by the rules.
      Why didn't we plan for this? Are we still relying on the white gloves of our enemies?
      Finally, do some analytics and planning. feel and not walking on a rake.
      belay The Russian Federation is full of these “dear” and offended people on both sides. Let's wait for THEIR dissatisfaction and in what FORM!?
      With the periodic realization that “they were deceived again.” Who!? "Partners". so they literally work according to a pattern. But. because they can do it. And we have “another struggle for the harvest.” Slaves. otherwise they will “close” the project...
      R.S. A sort of internal "trifle". to understand the internal "rake" am -
      "...18 SEPTEMBER 2023 05:00
      HTTPS://TSARGRAD.TV/NEWS/CELAJA-SET-PO-ROSSII-JETNICHESKIE-DIASPORY-GOTOVJAT-BUNT-V-ROSSII_868898
      A WHOLE NETWORK AROUND RUSSIA: ARE ETHNIC DIASPORADS PREPARING A REVOLT?
      The FSB, with the participation of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and with the force support of the Russian Guard, conducted raids almost simultaneously in 53 regions of Russia, belay including Moscow, St. Petersburg, Sevastopol, LPR and DPR, Crimea, North Ossetia, Transbaikalia, Omsk region and so on. And we have something to tell about this work beyond dry reports.
      The details of the work of the special services are revealed by the investigation department of Constantinople. But first, let’s look at the facts presented by the security forces.
      So, after the raids 757 firearms of both domestic and foreign origin were seized. Among them are submachine guns, revolvers, grenade launchers, hundreds of artillery shells, grenades, tens of kilograms of explosives, samples from the Second World War, for example, the German MG42 machine gun, PPSh, as well as revolvers, AK-12, SVD, Uzi and others.
      A total of 84 underground workshops were closed. 217 residents of these regions were detained. At the same time, according to Constantinople, We are talking about warehouses and workshops owned by ethnic diasporas.
      By the way, two more such caches were recently discovered in Mytishchi near Moscow. In early August, state security operatives carried out a raid against illegal migrants in places where they were densely settled. ..."
      hi
  2. +9
    12 September 2023 04: 48
    ***
    "Leave it alone: ​​this is a dispute among Caucasians among themselves,
    Home, old dispute, weighted by fate,
    A question that you will not resolve...
    ***
  3. +4
    12 September 2023 06: 25
    The collective West has finally achieved its goal on the territory of the former USSR, although economic and political unions have been created, the CIS, the EAEU, the CSTO, but they are essentially not working, but there is a trade there, payment for transit, so on trifles, but there is nothing serious , as well as the most important thing, there is no mutual understanding, but there is trust in each other and it is growing more and more. This plays into the hands of the West, it only strengthens these trends, well, it doesn’t need a new union on the territory of the former USSR, even a liberal-democratic one with a capitalist orientation, it doesn’t need a violinist, it doesn’t need a competitor. And the leadership of the so-called independent states doesn’t want to understand this sometimes enlightenment happens, they try to create something, but everyone wants to get more from the union.
  4. +2
    12 September 2023 07: 47
    There are two factors at work here. Firstly, nationalism against each other. The second factor is that Baku receives weapons from two countries. Under such circumstances, Baku looks much more powerful than Yerevan. The question is, why are we supplying weapons to Baku? Until all this is resolved, it is difficult to expect better changes. Letting all this to chance is very dangerous for us. Yerevan will not join NATO. But are there very few states that are not members of this bloc, and yet sharpen their teeth against us?
    1. +1
      12 September 2023 09: 52
      I can't say that this is caused only by lobbying and something like that. Logistics with Iran is being built, but it is needed, because in the current situation it also includes trade with Iraq and Syria, these are markets worth +-130 million. True, it is not very clear what to fill these markets with from our side, except for the traditional sectors.
      In principle, the actual loss of Armenia is not so much strategically painful as it is strange in itself. Do not create a full-fledged pro-Russian party, movements, etc. there. this is certainly something. A good strategist would fundamentally keep forces in Armenia and would have a full-fledged presence there only because of the huge source of fresh water in the form of Lake Sevan. At least from this factor alone. Because Van and the sources of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers are in Turkey, and Lake Urmia in Iran is very problematic. Simply, based on this factor, Armenia should be in our orbit, not counting the Trans-Caucasian railway corridor in the form of a possible southern branch of the BTK, which could be implemented. We underestimate how tired, in terms of politics and internal economics, Armenia is of the so-called. "Karabakh party". But it was necessary to keep alternatives then. With such and such economic influence. No, ours don’t know how to do this.
  5. -4
    12 September 2023 08: 31
    Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
    The question is, why are we supplying weapons to Baku?

    Is this some kind of outdated information?!
    1. +2
      12 September 2023 10: 17
      He apparently means past contracts, which official Yerevan constantly blames us for. There are no new supplies, but in terms of media and old ones there are enough to pump up narratives
  6. +1
    12 September 2023 08: 59
    Most likely, the Kremlin assessors will be the losers here too.
  7. -1
    12 September 2023 09: 39
    In order to really have the opportunity to do something, it is necessary, oddly enough, to have such an opportunity. A narrative is being promoted in Armenia that Russian peacekeepers have blocked the Lachin corridor. At the same time, the Armenians themselves are not trying to do anything to unblock them. Our peacekeeping brigade also does not have the ability to resist the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. We can only deliver additional troops through Iran, which is not guaranteed to let them through. Russia does not need another war with a breakthrough through Georgian territory now. Anti-Russian and pro-Ukrainian hysteria is spreading in Armenia itself. The withdrawal of forces from Armenia in this situation is the least evil. Two more brigades on the Ukrainian front will clearly not be superfluous. After the victory in Ukraine, you can return to Transcaucasia, primarily to Georgia, and not to uninteresting Armenia.
    1. +3
      12 September 2023 09: 54
      Have the Armenians unblocked the Zanzegur corridor? This is who does not fulfill the conditions for ending hostilities.
    2. +3
      12 September 2023 10: 11
      Iran will let it through if there is a specific request from Yerevan, which for obvious reasons will not happen. Moreover, Iran has quite decent business interests in Armenia. In fact, Iran is generally the least interested in the development of negative scenarios.
  8. -2
    12 September 2023 16: 23
    Well what can I say. Continue to be friends with Turkey, feed it with Russian tourists and feed on its poisoned tomatoes. How many of these knives were there in the back? The time is not far off when they will no longer hit you in the back, but in the chest - soon they will have nothing to be ashamed of. Now they will feed her Armenia in addition.
    Russia and Armenia are geopolitical allies, they had (the key word was) absolutely common interests in the region, which is why the majority of Armenian citizens are somehow connected with Russia, have Russian citizenship, and Russian citizens from Armenia are usually valuable, qualified people , culturally closest to us (not counting Ukrainians and Belarusians). This is a blow comparable in consequences to the Maidan of 2013-2014. A common blow to Russia and Armenia. For Russians and Armenians equally. Just like what is happening in Ukraine - an equal blow to Russia and Ukraine - is equally terrible for our peoples, who have a common historical destiny.
    1. 0
      13 September 2023 15: 24
      Olga, this is a war of elites, not of peoples or their interests. Two elite globalist projects and people in their millstones. Moreover, 85% of those same “elites” do not even know what the fight is for. I don’t consider the Armenian people to be any kind of traitors, much less the Ukrainian people, and I don’t consider the Azerbaijanis to be any kind of anti-Russian. The people in general are the fiftieth thing here, they are driven people who are “shepherded with a rod of iron.” We are no exception here, unfortunately.
  9. Des
    0
    12 September 2023 17: 59
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    In principle, the actual loss of Armenia is not so much strategically painful as it is strange in itself.

    Very correct, but in the modern world it is no longer “strange”. For this is not a loss of the Armenian state, but rather a misunderstanding of the essence.
    Prehistory.
    On an excursion to Kerch, the guide (among other things): “And the Cossacks lived here, guarding the borders, but they lived poorly. But they had a lot of salt. And they didn’t know what to do with it. And the best friends of the Cossacks, the Armenians, helped them. They began to take salt from the Cossacks and sell it."
    Armenians have a lot of strong, famous and simply warriors. Including in the Northern Military District and in the Great Patriotic War. I respect you. But there are also many traders who do “business” here and do not identify themselves as citizens of the Russian Federation at all.
    1. +4
      12 September 2023 19: 09
      Now there are not wars of states and peoples, but wars of one corporate elite in different countries, against another corporate elite. Someday all this “Something” will be called the “great clash of corporatocracies” by the forces of states and peoples. This is something like the war between Athens and Sparta. One should neither blame the common people for not understanding this, nor belittle or exalt their qualities, but the fault of the elite of each nation is that what is happening.
  10. +5
    12 September 2023 18: 10
    Let's remember 1991. Armenia did not vote to preserve the USSR in the referendum, along with the Baltic states
    Then years of trading with ours and yours, begging either from Russia or from the United States. The largest US embassy in the world. What have they been doing there for so many years?
    The eternal and innate Armenian ambition that “here we are all because we...”, when Azerbaijan was silently preparing and pumping up its economy and army. And then they rushed to reclaim the territory. And if it weren’t for Russia, they would have squeezed everything right up to Yerevan.
    Everyone here mentions the CSTO. What kind of CSTO? Armenia has not officially conducted hostilities with Azerbaijan. Karabakh fought.
    And here again is the old duality of the Armenians. They rushed to the CSTO and Russia, but they themselves still have not officially recognized!!!! Is Karabakh independent?
    All in all. The Armenian diaspora is the largest in the world. Let them sort it out.
    Although there is one option for instantly ending the war there: evacuate all Armenians and Azbrajians from Moscow markets and car service centers in every yard and the war will stop within a couple of days.
    1. +1
      12 September 2023 19: 12
      This is the Tower of Babel. A clear example of which we see every day.
  11. -1
    12 September 2023 20: 43
    The narratives promoted by the liberal wing of politics in Yerevan are simple at heart: “Russia supplied weapons to Azerbaijan and did not help defend Karabakh in 2020” or “Russia cannot unblock the Lachin corridor, its peacekeepers are useless.”
    Dear author! What’s wrong, again the problem is with scary and mysterious liberals?! winked
    However, they are quite intricate in terms of specific diplomatic execution, such as the example of NATO exercises or a visit to a summit under the patronage of E. Zelenskaya.
    What came in the beginning, a word or someone’s inaction?!
    1. 0
      12 September 2023 21: 29
      What is a liberal? Bazaars in Russia in the 19th century? They are not scary, the consequences are deadly. This is a struggle of projects, although they came out of the same place. Like that joke: “Where are you from? Yes, we are all from the same place, we just think about ourselves differently.” Here is a liberal - from the same place, but from different projects.
      A modern liberal is not Bazarov's heir. And Pashinyan, even more so. This is a different liberalism and a different project.
      1. -2
        12 September 2023 22: 21
        “Triumphs” of Nikola and the tragic history of the Armenian genocide: a historian about Pashinyan’s “twists”

        Russian historian Oleg Airapetov, commenting on Nikol Pashinyan’s statement that Russia in 1915 left the Armenians alone with Turkey, thereby making a geopolitical choice, says that “the person who now heads the government of the Republic of Armenia should immediately consult a narcologist . What he says and does is not a subject of historical or political logic, it is a subject for the investigation of a psychiatrist or a narcologist.”

        It is obvious that Russia has been and remains at the moment the only consistent defender of Armenia and the Armenian population of Karabakh. And it is precisely this fact that does not suit Pashinyan. This explains what he calls politics, including his statements regarding history.

        And now, briefly about what really happened, the expert says. Let's start with the fact that the problem of the “Armenian question” appeared long before 1915. For the first time, the Armenian question was raised in the order of international relations by the Russian authorities, at the request of representatives of the Armenian public, when signing the San Stefano Peace Treaty of 1878.

        Russia came out in defense of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during the Abdul Hamid massacre of 1894–1896, which killed about 300 thousand people. About 50 thousand refugees from Ottoman Turkey found salvation on the territory of the Russian Empire; Russian society and the state provided them with significant assistance, including financial assistance.

        It was Russia in 1912-1913. was the initiator of reforms to create Armenian autonomy in Turkish Armenia, which the Turkish government curtailed, taking advantage of the outbreak of the First World War.

        The Armenian Genocide took place in 1915, and this was not the first massacre. Yes, it was the largest. Systemic. But Russia not only did not intend to “leave the region” at that time, but vice versa. The Russian army was advancing on the Caucasian front.

        After the October Revolution, on September 20, 1918, the head of the People's Commissariat for Foreign Affairs, G.V. Chicherin, sent a note of protest against the violence against the Armenian population to Constantinople, which stated that the Ottoman authorities had thus themselves eliminated the conditions of the Brest Peace.

        In December 1920, history repeated itself with the Treaty of Alexandroprol. The Dashnaks started the war without preparing for it and lost it. Appeals to France, England and the USA for help did not lead to anything, and only the intervention of the Red Army then thwarted the transformation of Armenia into a Turkish protectorate.

        According to Oleg Airapetov, Pashinyan is an ignorant person. This ignorance is entirely consistent with his political agenda. That is, he does not suffer from manias and phobias, but enjoys them. His strengths are qualities that everyone else would consider disadvantages. So, for him, ignorance and political intrigue in this case should not be opposed, but united.

        It was he who wrote the “famous” article, the expert emphasizes, in which he said that we need to abandon the legacy of our ancestors, who left us too many problems and too little land. His behavior during the second Karabakh war, his numerous recent statements about the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, about the symbols of Armenia, including the country’s coat of arms - all this accordingly adds up to a fairly complete picture. Pashinyan abandons the historical heritage of Armenia. He is starting a new era. My. Nikolism-Pashinism.

        This is in order to distract public opinion and remove responsibility for the obvious catastrophe of the Armenian population in Karabakh. And right now, when only Russian troops are the guarantor of the existence of Armenians in Karabakh.

        “And that’s why they are the enemy of Nikolashe-nidvorash.” I spoke, wrote and repeat. This same Nikol will not leave either a stake or a courtyard from the republic,” says the historian.

        Stay in touch.
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  12. -1
    12 September 2023 22: 19
    Azerbaijan has moved to buy up liberal Russian media

    Having discovered that not all European media are ready to publish slander against Armenians at the expense of oil and gas money, Baku decided to include Russian liberal publications in its buying pool. These people have a simpler conscience (in the sense of no conscience at all) and cheaper prices.

    This practice is not new: in 2020, during the war, Dozhd and the same Novaya Gazeta, which was featured in the current scandal, already submitted materials with openly pro-Azerbaijani accents. This time, a certain supposed human rights activist Elena Romanova wrote an article in which she called the blockade of Artsakh a staged act.

    The material contains enough dirty insinuations to warrant a dozen libel suits. The most disgusting thing was the fact that even after the public outcry, the author of the article continued to insist on the abomination that she wrote. Here the editorial board of the publication has already become involved: for them, one order is not worth the reputation as a whole. Although what kind of reputation can we talk about in relation to the liberal media?

    As reported on the newspaper’s website, the editorial board of “New Europe” decided to remove the article by journalist and human rights activist Elena Romanova, where the blockade of Nagorno-Karabakh is called a staging, according to the newspaper’s Telegram channel. “The author has a strong emotional point of view on the conflict, which makes it impossible to work with this topic,” the newspaper explained.


    Know.
    https://t.me/voiceofArtsakh
  13. -2
    12 September 2023 22: 22
    This will be repeated as long as it goes unpunished - Dmitry Zhuravlev about Baku’s actions against the residents of Artsakh

    Russian political scientist, General Director of the Institute of Regional Problems Dmitry Zhuravlev commented on the latest kidnapping in the Lachin corridor and described ways to resolve this issue.

    Dmitry Zhuravlev believes that only if such actions are punished will the detention of Artsakh residents by the Azerbaijani authorities stop. “This will be repeated as long as there is impunity. People are stolen either to put pressure on other people or to create a nervous atmosphere.

    If it had been the first case, they had already put forward some conditions: “We will return it, but you…”, etc. Since this is not the case, it means there is a second option - simply destabilization of the psychological state, and this can last forever if it is not stopped. The criminals must be punished! As soon as they are punished, kidnappings will immediately disappear,” the expert noted.

    As for ways to resolve the current situation, Zhuravlev believes that international organizations and the activity of the Armenian side promise success in this difficult matter. “In order to carry out this punishment, active activity and sufficient resources are needed. I have no doubt about the activity of the Armenian side, but whether there are enough resources to protect people from such attacks is a question. Well, of course, raise the question in international organizations ", the expert concluded.

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  14. +1
    13 September 2023 01: 05
    The situation is deeply advanced, there are cat processes. It can be accelerated, but there is something that even if it accelerates, it is only slightly. The situation in Armenia and, in particular, with Karabakh is a deeply neglected situation.
    Society has already been thoroughly “pumped up” with anti-Russianism, while we looked at this with Olympian calm, and the binding agreements did not change depending on this.
    Unfortunately, all this is an inevitable chain of events that are extremely unpleasant, but must happen, because the dismantling of our archaic post-owl system. security was bound to happen sooner or later. And so, it happens all along the front, as they say...
    1. +1
      13 September 2023 01: 31
      Useless. You can only play the song “Beautiful Far Away” for people. And I write this without any sarcasm. This is not sarcasm. Perhaps something will come to life in the depths of your soul. But it's no use.
    2. +1
      13 September 2023 08: 39
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      At the same time, we looked at it with Olympic calm

      So what should have been done? Pumping money into the “Russians”? Did it work well in Ukraine?
      1. +3
        13 September 2023 10: 52
        The question "What should have been done?" - good question. I can’t imagine a “good patch” for “this hole,” because the situation here (at the time of the collapse of the USSR) was clearly more complicated than what could be patched. Here it was necessary to immediately sculpt an adequate regional architecture, and then we would get a “quieter” region and perhaps less Turkish influence, and “closer” Azerbaijan and a more pro-Russian Armenia.
        And so - we essentially launched the region quietly, did not have a “desired future” model, did not strive for it. We conducted activities with Armenia as if it were an ordinary stable sovereign state a la Finland, as if Karabakh and the long-standing conflict with Azerbaijan did not exist. And they behaved the same way with Azerbaijan, as if we had the idea that in 1991 they all instantly, with the wave of a magic wand, became gilded carriages out of pumpkins, and yesterday’s dissidents or pseudo-communists instantly transformed into politicians of the European level.
        As a result (according to my feelings, again, I see the situation as a whole, but I haven’t recorded every sneeze since 1991), we have a situation in which the situation, which was beneficial to us as a “monolithic” one, has become demonolithized, and what is possible was frozen and even somehow played off (Karabakh) - it turned into chronic hemorrhoids, shaking our southern flank.
        In the Caucasus, we needed to give these states - Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan - not so much an economy, but an adequate, reinforced concrete, powerful diplomatic line and architecture, at the head of which we would be, then the economy, then everything else.
        Instead, we first started politics, with the distribution of pies for running into May 9 and endless CIS talking shops, then the economy, and then diplomacy - but even then we did not want to draw up a rigid plan, preferring the loose bodies that we always adored and at home.

        I don’t see the point in pumping up the Armenian opposition and trying to make “pro-Russian agents” out of it. Nowadays this is an ethnically and nationalistically inclined state, we cannot conditionally “find a dude” who will effectively sing to them about balalaika birches. What we COULD have done yesterday and the day before was to strictly include them in our economic project, allowing them to earn from us, and us from them - and so well that the issue of EU aspirations simply did not arise. Now they are convinced that our economic project is weak, this trend will not work. We do not want and cannot help them resolve their national issues regarding Karabakh; moreover, it is harmful for us. That is, we cannot play this card of theirs (just as Turkey helps Azerbaijan by earning political points). That is, we do not have 2 strongest trump cards with which “our” politician could work.
        Theoretically, yes, we could offer some large infrastructure. projects (but this is again economics) that are extremely beneficial to Armenia. But again, everything always comes down to the depth of our goal-setting and the scope of planning ahead of time. We have a hard time with this, where it is visible - it is still immeasurably far from the Caucasus.

        So I will summarize - for now we have no cards and almost no leverage.
        1. 0
          13 September 2023 11: 30
          Here it was necessary to immediately sculpt adequate regional architecture,
          And what should such an architecture look like? Let me remind you that the USSR failed to cope with the task of creating one, and also screwed up inside itself. The successors of the USSR specialists, who turned out to be unequal to the task, were random people recruited from the street, and non-random people who knew nothing at all about international politics. What kind of regional structure were they supposed to create? What place?
          Now the situation has been greatly simplified by the fact that this whole gang was driven through the Higher School of Economics, where everything was applied to them, including psychotherapy. Well, at least that’s what their actions look like, which can make you stand or fall. Personally, I think that it’s better to let everything go as it goes, than for these fantastic “professionals” to start building something. Construction is for builders, creators, and these are generally different people...
          1. +1
            13 September 2023 13: 06
            I see the problem of the USSR (including in this issue) as the problem of the dominance of dogma over real politics. Real politics, when choosing solutions and looking into the future, selects the best possible solutions, taking into account all factors. The policy of dogmatists can cut off the best solutions, leaving at best a compromise with a bias towards dogmatics, and at worst leaving the fruit of bare “ideas about”.

            By approximately the same logic, dogma in the USSR inevitably hung over the economy, forcing decisions to be made that were not ideal either in the short or long term.
            I have now briefly touched on the problem, because the problem is so huge, not enough for one article in itself. And in general it’s difficult to touch her, because very... there are a lot of dogmatists here at VO, they don’t want to see problems “as they are,” they always need to properly tune them.
            And what should such an architecture look like?

            I am a supporter of the idea that after the collapse of the USSR, the entire territory of the former CIS should have been immediately considered by us as a territory necessary for absorption by our economic interests, and organized from the point of view of the benefits of our economy. That is, approximately this was supposed to be our pocket EU “with the ruble and Lukashenka.” Resp. It would be more profitable for us to keep our “Brussels bureaucracy”, but at the same time allow high degrees of freedom to local bureaucracies, however, bound by a well-thought-out contractual union base. Disputed territories from the point of view of administration would come under DIRECT federal control, and if necessary, a federal plebescite on the status would be held in the adjacent territories and on these, on the basis of which legal demarcation would be carried out.
            To deepen ties with the union metropolis, it was possible to offer local elites plans for the development of a large-scale tourism sector, issue cheap loans and at the same time create the preconditions for linking economies with the metropolis. At the same time, the plan provides for promoting the expansion of symbiotic and production ties between conflicting regions - for example, through a chain of large enterprises tied to each other. Promote large infrastructure projects, both connecting regions with each other and tying them to the union metropolis. Improve the internal legal framework, taking into account typical patterns of problematic issues. Actively involve in all this activity, in addition to highly qualified specialists from the metropolis, representatives of regional elites and specialists - where necessary, to inspire plebescites. Monitor the activity of countervailing forces within regional societies and their rhetoric, where it is possible to preempt, where it is possible to disperse, where necessary, to suppress using, among other things, tools of black PR, if necessary.
            To form a powerful fist of federal media in the areas of the most demanded delivery, linking the possibility of broadcasting these media throughout the territory of the union. The broadcast itself should be organized on a mix basis, complementing the “general” all-Union case in the necessary (for each region) proportions of a personal, regionally oriented case and presentation, taking into account familiar faces and mentality.
            And of course, the census, music, festivals, games and a bunch of other nonsense.
            Offhand I see it like this. But all this has an accumulative effect, so it had to be done “hotly” or at least started in the early 2000s.
  15. -1
    13 September 2023 08: 38
    Moscow is secretly transferring Wagner to Armenia,” etc.
    Well, right now) As I have written repeatedly, Armenia, firstly, is unworthy of help (with all this stream of insults and meanness committed by its governments. Interaction with this country greatly undermines our international authority), and secondly, it is not needed. What is the point of spending resources on protecting it?
    It seems that Armenia has a voice in the UN (where it has never supported us). Well, the USA has one more ghostly vote for all these phantom votes. Naturally, no one will spend dollars there, so soon there will be half a million people (or less) and a loudly squealing government reading the American manual from a piece of paper. And okay. There will be much better uses for our troops from the base there.
    1. 0
      16 September 2023 23: 53
      Aram Gabrelyanov:

      If you think carefully, Armenia and Artsakh have always been in world history a battlefield not for Turks and Armenians, not for Azerbaijanis and Armenians. Forever, as long as the world exists, Armenia and Artsakh are the battlefield of two empires - Russia and Britain. The Russian tsars knew and understood this very well, and any Russian authorities knew this very well. The most famous English intelligence officer and historian, Lawrence of Arabia, stated back in the thirties of the twentieth century that all Armenians on earth should be destroyed. This is not because he is so bloodthirsty, but because Christian Armenia was a bone in the throat of Great Britain. A bone that does not and will not allow them to destroy great Russia.
      All these Erdogans, Aliyevs, Pashinyans are proxies of Great Britain. And mark my words, the British, through Erdogan, Aliyev and Pashinyan, will seize Artsakh and Armenia, this will not only be the death of the Armenians as a nation, but also the beginning of the end of the Russian Empire.
  16. 0
    13 September 2023 13: 07
    Quote from Romanovski
    In connection with the current situation, the Armenian authorities are obliged to take measures that will unite the potential and capabilities of national, political and public structures in Armenia, NK and the diaspora.

    Bravo!

    I propose to strengthen this potential by all citizens of Armenia who are on the territory of Russia!

    And also to return to their homeland (strengthening their potency) the citizens of Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, and what can I say - all of Turkestan!

    All residents of Russia are with you, dear children of the mountains and daughters of the steppes.
    But only when you are finally reunited with the country indicated in your national passport.

    Good luck!
    Strengthen your potency at home, in your beloved Motherland.
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  18. 0
    15 September 2023 09: 55
    If the instinct of self-preservation left the Armenians, then the Azerbaijanis had a chance...to finish the work of the Turks (early 20th century). Without the Russian Empire and the USSR, the issue would have been resolved long ago.
  19. 0
    28 September 2023 18: 02
    The shooting of our Peacekeepers by Azerbaijan does not seem to bother the authorities very much. I would like to look at that idiot idiot from the Ministry of Defense who determined the quantitative and qualitative composition of the peacekeeping forces in such an explosive region, with a predominance of mountainous terrain. In which the peacekeeping forces themselves are not able to defend themselves! Actually, what's going on? Whatever emergency situation with our troops you analyze, everywhere you will certainly see the filthy hand of the internal cosmopolitan enemy, entrenched in various power and security structures of the Russian Federation. When on o. Our border guards died in Damansky, the answer would be that for decades China has no longer set its sights on our territories. Here, internal enemies in power are trying to slow everything down. After all, it was Russian peacekeepers who died, not cosmopolitans. If the opposite had happened, there would have been a stink throughout the world, like the collapse of Pompeii. Azerbaijan, following its Turkish curator, wants to give a damn about the Russian Federation? So the answer must be worthy: Demand $100 million (the Life of every deceased Peacemaker is so valued in the world) - for each dead, and $10 million for each wounded! In addition, Azerbaijan must pay the Russian Ministry of Defense all costs incurred - $1 billion. This will make them think not with their butts, but with their heads. If they don’t want to pay, they will act like the United States. Donald Trump, I remember, said: “If you don’t want to do it in a bad way, then in a good way it will be much worse.” The East Respects only Tough countries, but they spit on weak countries and always wipe their feet on them!