Bataisk and further everywhere: ethno-crime against the SVO

From Transbaikalia and closer

Not so long ago they wrote about severe beating two disabled veterans of the Northern Military District in Transbaikalia - now this is becoming a sad routine in Russia. Ethno-crime joined the persecution of the participants in the special operation.

You don't have to look far for examples. In the Rostov region, in Bataysk, on the night of September 3, in a local park, in a local park, persons of Caucasian nationality severely beat a veteran who had returned from the combat zone. It all started with a one-on-one skirmish, but the latter was not at all in the rules of local ethnic minorities - a whole crowd of Caucasians flew out of a cafe nearby in response to the sounds.

Vyacheslav (the name of the SVO participant) tried to fight back, but when the attackers found out about business trips to Ukraine, two clips from the trauma were dropped into the fighter. Several bullets hit the chest, one in the head - a total of thirteen injuries. Now the Russian soldier is in serious condition, although he is conscious. In total, more than 20 people were involved in the beating. As usual in such cases, the local governor Vasily Golubev took personal control of the investigation:

“I will closely follow the investigation, the perpetrators must definitely answer according to the law.”

There is no desire to repeat platitudes, but the best crime is a crime prevented. And this should be remembered by the head of the Rostov region. Especially when it comes to NVO veterans.

The difficult situation is with the night cafe, near which Vyacheslav was almost killed. Local residents have been writing petitions for the closure of the cereal establishment for six years in a row.

Vyacheslav was supposed to return to the NVO zone the other day. Photo by TC Readovka

In an interview, the mother of the victim quite rightly complains about the qualification of the crime for which a criminal case has been initiated - according to law enforcement officers, this only amounts to “hooliganism”. There are all signs of an attempt on a person's life - out of hooligan motives, two clips are not fired point-blank.

More - more.

In early August, in Tuapse, the so-called “abou-bandits” beat two members of the SVO to death at night, one with serious injuries managed to escape.

Earlier in the Chelyabinsk region, a certain Ashurmakhmad Karomatulla killed a special operation participant, Anton Chashkin. The Tajik did not like the Russian’s military background; he inflicted a severe traumatic brain injury on the fighter, after which Chashkin died in the hospital without regaining consciousness. There is not much information about the consequences - it is still unclear whether the Tajik who ran away was caught or not.

The next tragedy broke out in the town of Sharypovo in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, where three Azerbaijanis beat three local residents, including one woman, with knives and rebar. One of the unfortunates died on the spot. The killers were promptly detained - it turned out that they had been in Russia since May 2023 and did not fully speak Russian.

However, this is an old and proven scheme - even freshly baked holders of Russian passports, when necessary, pretend to be Dunno on the Moon.

In the tragedy in Sharypovo, there is no direct participation of the fighters of the Northern Military District, but there are regular metastases of ethno-crime in Russia.

Who is to blame and what to do?

The fact that there is a certain migrant lobby in the highest circles of the Russian government is not said only by the lazy. The reasons seem to be quite pragmatic - cheap labor ensures the economic growth of the state. Especially in the realities of recent months, when unemployment in Russia is at a record low of three percent.

Among those who sympathize with labor migrants are the Ministry of Economic Development, the Ministry of Construction, the Ministry of Agriculture and the Ministry of Industry and Trade. Officials from these departments are committed to further growth in migration to Russia.

For obvious reasons, against - departments that have to deal with the consequences of such a policy - the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Based on what is happening around, one can draw an unambiguous conclusion about the victory of the economic lobby. Indeed, only a sharp depreciation of the ruble can save ordinary Russians - at least for some of the potential criminals, it will simply not be profitable to earn money in Russia. If this does not help, compatriots across the country will have to learn from the experience of the Leningrad region, where people's squads have been operating in the city of Murino since the end of summer. Within the framework of the law, the Russians are trying to protect their children and women from rampant ethnic gangs.

A similar situation is in a village located near St. Petersburg, in which a visitor from Central Asia with weapons in his hands he forced a peer to take off his T-shirt with the letter V. This was the last straw, and now the vigilantes are fighting back against the scoundrels.

The initiative of the citizens of Russia can only be praised, but the continuation stories may have global implications. Whatever one may say, but the monopoly on violence remains the exclusive prerogative of the state - a deviation from this rule threatens to collapse. People's combatants can easily and naturally evolve into criminal structures with an ultranationalist basis. Russia does not need a repetition of the old American Ku Klux Klan at all.

By the way, in the situation with the squads, the consequences of another problem are emerging - the chronic shortage of personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. According to Minister Kolokoltsev, the structure lacks more than 90 thousand employees. And this is the data of November last year. The situation has clearly not improved in the past ten months.

As regards the participants in the special operation, the situation is even more complicated.

Along with chronic hatred for everything Russian, a part of the migrant community also has a rejection of Russia's actions in Ukraine. All those involved in this in the eyes of immigrants from the near abroad automatically become "aggressors". And the longer the state delays resolving the issue, the more victims there will be. Then we will inevitably see squads of NVO veterans who will not stand on ceremony with the gangster offspring.

Again, a reference to the question of the monopoly on violence. In the end, we need to decide what is more important for us: well-being in the labor market and the rapid construction of skyscrapers in Moscow City or the lives and honor of our compatriots.

Criticizing - offer. Following this principle, a few ideas about resolving the situation.

Let's start from a distant perspective.

The Ministry of Economic Development and other lobbyists for labor migration must firmly and firmly set the task of solving problems with minimal involvement of visitors. Officials at Harvard and HSE did not graduate to deal with freshman-level issues. You have to be more flexible, gentlemen managers.

If everything happens, then people will be drawn to the Ministry of Internal Affairs - a considerable part of the personnel left the structures due to bureaucratic lawlessness, covering rampant ethnic crime.

In the short term, it is worth remembering the diasporas in Russia, which skillfully avoided the special operation. Where are the Armenian, Azerbaijani and other battalions at the front? Representatives of peoples friendly to us, of course, take part in the SVO, but this is either not advertised or vanishingly small in the scale of the operation.

There is no information even about the humanitarian aid collected by the diasporas from the fraternal republics. For example, where are the caravans to the front from Russian Tajiks, who every year are becoming more and more in the country?

The Russian Army has been holding back Afghan gangs from invading Tajikistan for decades. Only by directly involving in the SVO all those who doubt justice and the need for a special operation can the intensity of anti-Russian sentiments within the country be reduced. It sounds like an oxymoron, but it’s true – dissatisfaction with the Russians is brewing inside the country against the backdrop of a special operation.

In any case, this will have to be resolved, otherwise the case in Bataysk will become commonplace.

Comments

[Stas157]

. the perpetrators must be held accountable

According to the law of war. Otherwise it won't work.

. Indeed, ordinary Russians can save only a sharp depreciation of the rubleI - at least for some part of potential criminals, it will simply not be profitable to earn money in Russia

Lived up. It turns out that the Russians need to become impoverished so that the diasporas are dumped! And why do we need a huge National Guard of 360 thousand bayonets? To drive shkolota with batons (for thrown cups) and kick grandmas with their feet?

[AUL]

People's vigilantes can easily and naturally evolve into criminal structures with an ultra-nationalist basis.

Diasporas have long turned into well-organized criminal structures. Moreover, the authorities are afraid to touch them - like, it’s politically incorrect. And we don’t feel sorry for our own people, they will tolerate them!

Russia does not need a repetition of the old American Ku Klux Klan.

I will express sedition - but, unfortunately, it is necessary. Because the “state-formers” were lowered below the plinth with the full approval of the authorities.
I am not calling for anything. It just hurt.

[Alexey RA]

Quote from AUL

And why do we need a huge National Guard of 360 thousand bayonets?

One hundred thousand of which are FSUE "Protection": paramilitary guards of state and private facilities.
And the operational troops of the RG and the riot police and SOBR who joined them are now working on a rotational basis in the NWO.

[Sergej1972]

Maybe I'm wrong, but FSUE Okhrana is generally an extra link in the Russian Guard. It would be more logical to leave him in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. As far as I understand, the divisions for the protection of especially important strategic facilities are not part of this federal state unitary enterprise.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Sergej1972

Maybe I'm wrong, but FSUE Okhrana is generally an extra link in the Russian Guard. It would be more logical to leave him in the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Logically, yes. But, apparently, the WG decided to give a source of funding ... or take it away from the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Quote: Sergej1972

As far as I understand, the divisions for the protection of especially important strategic facilities are not part of this federal state unitary enterprise.

Everything is complicated there - judging by the Charter of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise, there is some overlap, when part of the protection facilities of the "Protection" is also under the protection of the RG itself, the army and even faces: the Federal Reserve Agency, microbiology and combat chemistry facilities, water utility facilities, Rosatom and other nuclear facilities , airports, locations for ships with nuclear power plants, facilities of organizations subordinate to the Ministry of Defense.

[saygon66]

Not included... this federal state unitary enterprise is intended as an alternative to private security companies.

[TANKISTONE]

Not so long ago, of all the "irons", they made fun of the EU migration policy ... Ah, you had to prepare yourself ...

[Civil]

Nobody but ourselves can help us. They can and do worse. Everything suits them.

[Yaroslavl]

Absolutely true, the sheriff’s Indians are not interested in problems ... only in a more hypertrophied quality .... the authorities fenced themselves off with fences, flashing lights, palaces with elevators and fireplaces, she doesn’t care what’s behind the fence ... Tajiks have servants and no more, and even then they probably take Russians to cut golf lawns ... the situation in the country with migrants is just as bad as with the economy, health care, roads, education, NWO ... in general, it’s just bad for everyone

[Dante Alighieri]

Let me tell you a story from the recent past. Place of action - the city of Barnaul, period - 53-54 years. last century. It didn't take long for the war to break out. The city of Barnaul at that time was just an ordinary administrative center, where production was evacuated during the Great Patriotic War (for example, the Barnaul Machine Tool Plant appeared, with a cartridge shop, which later turned into a separate plant that still supplies the army and hunters with its products, a transport plant mechanical engineering, the Sibenergomash boiler plant, a melange plant and a car repair plant), the population, as well as the place where elements not loyal to the Soviet regime were deported and outright criminals were exiled. Among the forcibly relocated, the main backbone was Russian Germans, whom they began to exile to Siberia, including Altai, from the 30s, but there were also representatives of the peoples of the Caucasus, mainly Chechens.

Here it should be noted that the Altai Territory as a whole compares favorably in its climatic characteristics with other regions of Siberia. Here, for example, tomatoes ripen quietly in the open field, apples grow, and with proper care, grapes bear fruit. In general, the title "Barner of Siberia" Altai is quite deserved. As a result, it is much easier to survive here than in the same Tomsk region, where there is literally nothing of all of the above (because greenhouses at that time did not receive such mass distribution) and where, according to the recollection of my ancestors, the same representatives of the peoples of the Caucasus, who shied away cooperation with the same exiled Russian kulaks and Germans did not particularly take root. To be more precise, they died in the harsh Siberian realities by entire villages. No, some certainly survived, but for the most part their fate was not enviable. But the Russians and Germans, who quickly realized that the collective is strength, there is no place for individualism and strife in these realities, and therefore the collective farm should not be resisted - they survived. But, as I noted, the Tomsk region, in the Altai Territory, everything was a little different, and therefore the percentage of those who survived the difficult years of the war and exile, without particularly changing their behavioral patterns, was many times higher in Barnaul.

And now we have a city in which a lot of different people have accumulated, not only by ethnicity, but also by the level of education, occupation, culture, mentality. War veterans also returned here from the fields of the Great Patriotic War, many of whom would later replenish the composition of the working teams of the plants that appeared, replacing those specialists who would return from evacuation to their homes in Leningrad and Moscow, and some would enter the staff of internal affairs officers, which then included not only militia (after all, this word is dearer than the modern name), but also, for example, the fire department.

It is clear that such a social composition would inevitably lead to conflicts. And I'm not whitewashing anyone here and I'm not making excuses. Many of those who went through the Great Patriotic War did not have a meek disposition, most were ordinary people from the villages with a 6-grade education at best, but all of them, without exception, were those who went through Europe and personally turned their necks to fascism, all of them were The winners, and therefore quite deservedly considered themselves masters of their land. But as it turned out, this title was also claimed by those who, although they suffered repressions, for reasons beyond their control, still could not return home, and therefore tried to somehow settle in the place where they found themselves by the will of fate. In a good way, the latter should have sensibly assessed the situation, drawn the right conclusions and tempered their ambitions, but as I noted above, the same representatives of the Caucasian peoples who ended up in Altai had much less incentives for such a transformation of consciousness than their relatives, who were exiled to the north.

It is not known for certain what was the formal trigger of the conflict, or who initiated it, there are various legends. The fact remains that one far from perfect day a massive inter-ethnic conflict broke out in Barnaul, which inevitably included not only ordinary citizens, including Russian Germans and criminals, but also veterans of the Second World War. It is clear that the latter had many times more experience in capturing and holding settlements, and some also had service, premium weapons in their hands. The result of the conflict is predictable - the city was thoroughly "cleansed" of persons of Caucasian nationality. The police, of course, tried to stop the arbitrariness, but either they were not too zealous in this (half of the personnel were from the same front-line soldiers), or they prudently decided not to interfere. Later, however, someone was even convicted, but this was already much later and could not affect the outcome.

It is clear that there is nothing good in what happened, it is clear that many innocent people suffered among those who managed to assimilate into a new cultural environment for themselves, were generally law-abiding and did not pose any threat, living an ordinary, normal human life. But the crowd is ruthless and acts solely in their own interests. And her interests at that moment were reduced to one thing - to stop the threat from elements alien to her. Yes, in many respects this was a forced reaction, which became a response to the abuses of individuals, and to the lack of reaction from the authorities, who at that time simply had no time for this, because the list of issues that had to be addressed every day was simply colossal. Let me remind you that the war died down less than 10 years ago and the country was still recovering from what it had experienced. But all this, of course, does not justify what happened, although it generally reduced the degree of tension in society.

Later, Vladimir Semenovich Vysotsky will sing about these events like this:

Memories only disturb -
Always one thing: "Help! Guard! .."
The Germans from the Volga region are beating Chechens,
And the place of the battle is the city of Barnaul.

When it came almost to lynching,
I stood as a mountain for the highlanders, pulling someone's throat.
Both were not from here,
But they fought as if at home.

Of course, the great poet was a little cunning and the social composition of the conflict was very heterogeneous, but this is not important. The important thing is that if we do not want a repetition of these events, we must already draw the right conclusions now, and the inadmissibility of the escalation of the conflict, first of all, taking into account the interests of those who today defend our values ​​with weapons in their hands, so that they do not have a desire to use their skills on the streets of their native cities.

I repeat once again, the author of this commentary offends no one, does not call for illegal actions, opposes the incitement of national hatred and warns against such behavior, citing a purely negative example from the history of our country. Peace to all nations!

[Bulrumeb]

Almost the same thing, only much earlier, happened in Kazakhstan, where the Chechens were evicted. While most of the male population was at the front, uniform lawlessness took place. But then the front-line soldiers returned ...

[not main]

Quote: Dante

Dante (Kirill)
Yesterday, 07: 35

The comment is great! Especially about the designation of the problem! But... it's the 50s. Have you forgotten what happened in Karelian Kondopoga already in the 2000s? So the situation is already out of control. Or rather, no one controlled this topic! It just sort of falls apart on its own!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: non-primary

Or rather, no one controlled this topic! Type it will all sort itself out!

Right. This is what came from the mayors of the new system:
“It’s not clean where they clean it, but where they don’t litter”
How can this be a state thing - you have to start with yourself...
It was they who suggested that the population of Russia solve all problems not according to the law, but according to concepts ...

[Mishka78]

Quote: Stas157

360 thousand bayonets

In one Moscow agglomeration of respected Russians, there are at least 3 million heads only OFFICIALLY.
When Sobyanin and Vorobyov introduced quarantine in 2020, the most respected representatives of the diasporas came to them and said - comrades Sobyanin and Vorobyov, you closed markets, you closed construction sites, you closed public catering, you deprived our people of the opportunity to earn money. If you don't want riots, open everything back, or it will be very bad.
And then everything worked and the pandemic began to decline.
And you're talking about 360 thousand guards throughout the country ..
The authorities have already opened Pandora's box, which is almost impossible to close without consequences.
Especially during the period of hostilities, when there is a powerful outflow of the indigenous population, and the security forces are concentrated in Ukraine.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Mishka78

The authorities have already opened Pandora's box, which is almost impossible to close without consequences.

The authorities have been trying to build the Tower of Babel for three decades...
In what area (region of Russia) do armed national formations exist? And where are the hundred billion gratuitous receipts allocated?
* * *
Someone wants to destroy Russia with chatter and slogans about democracy...

[DenVB]

Quote: Stas157

And why do we need a huge National Guard of 360 thousand bayonets?

What if another angry commander with fighters marches on Moscow? Who will stop? The military and the Ministry of Internal Affairs were somehow not in a hurry last time.

[vladcub]

"Angry commander" Did you want GV in any way?
It is great happiness that that "adventure" ended almost bloodlessly, but for example
Vasya Vasilkov starts shouting “they’re beating our people”: General Muskin, traitor, etc. Let's deal with him.
Vasilkov withdraws his division and goes to beat the “traitors”.
Where is the guarantee that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not strike?
Then Vasilkov, if he were a five-time favorite of the people, would actually be to blame, what would Stalin do?
He would have immediately shot Vaselkov, and then started the analysis.
Do you want to see what the Armed Forces of Ukraine will do if the "offended" starts to muddy the waters? I'm afraid they'll strike.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: vladcub

"Angry commander" Did you want GV in any way?
It is great happiness that that "adventure" ended almost bloodlessly, but for example
Vasya Vasilkov starts shouting “they’re beating our people”: General Muskin, traitor, etc. Let's deal with him.
Vasilkov withdraws his division and goes to beat the “traitors”.
Where is the guarantee that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not strike?
Then Vasilkov, if he were a five-time favorite of the people, would actually be to blame, what would Stalin do?
He would have immediately shot Vaselkov, and then started the analysis.
Do you want to see what the Armed Forces of Ukraine will do if the "offended" starts to muddy the waters? I'm afraid they'll strike.

With such a migration policy, civil war will happen faster.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: DenVB

What if another angry commander with fighters marches on Moscow? Who will stop? The military and the Ministry of Internal Affairs were somehow not in a hurry last time.

So RG can't. Its division and brigades are designed to fight the DRG and gangs - lightly armed units of small numbers.
The times when the Vovans cut through with tanks and had their own full-fledged artillery are already twenty years gone. Now they only have armored personnel carriers, armored vehicles and mortars. The maximum possible is troops to protect the rear.

[Starover_Z]

Who is to blame and what to do?

Quote: Stas157

According to the law of war. Otherwise it won't work.

And I propose to send detained migrants, and locals can also be sent to fine work in military units, of which there are enough in the cities! One per division, no joint work, only separately! Do not release, keep in the guardhouse.
And let him try to speak and bully in part, if his health is enough! And there, how he will behave - if anything, he will be to blame!

[saigon]

Yes, progress is nothing to say. It's time to ban diasporas as ogre crime. No one thinks what will happen when the fighters from the NWO return, but it was worth thinking.
Here, many can remember how they returned to a country where they had not heard about the database in different places, about that explosion in their head and their reaction to it. So it’s worth thinking about how many trunks the fighters will have (la-la about the fact that everyone will hand over the weapons and find out it’s not necessary).

[t7310]

Quote: saigon

No one thinks what will happen when the soldiers from the Northern Military District return, but it’s worth thinking about.

Well, they were returning from both Avgan and Chechnya, the diasporas can already be said to have immunity to war, although of course I would like the foreigners not to become impudent and criminals are generally afraid to go to Russia

[iwanstepanych.]

The city builders have finished their game. bad..

[Mityasha]

The first thing is to equate diasporas with extremist organizations, with all the consequences that come with it. I accepted citizenship - now you have the only diaspora - the Russian Federation. For crimes against the indigenous population - deportation to the former historical homeland along with relatives forever. In Korea, which is South, the one who committed an offense against a native is always wrong and responsible. Yes, and check all our FMS for involvement in corruption in the field of citizenship distribution. No social payments until you prove your loyalty to the new Motherland by serving in the army. You can continue further. In general, we need to raise our law enforcement agencies somehow. Previously, the teaching staff walked the streets and the OMON squads provided assistance. Now there is no one from the word at all, even on the phones. Zolotoy crushed under him all the power units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Is he afraid of competition?

[Gardamir]

The first thing is to equate diasporas with extremist organizations, with all the consequences that come with it.

For example, I am writing as it is, but I will express my wishes during the elections. but there is the fact that the man at the head of the country, even at the beginning of his term, contemptuously throwing down his pencil, said, Russia is not for Russians.
despite the fact that we are still 80%.
Most laws are aimed at humiliating Russians.
And you still blame some liberals.

[Mityasha]

I didn't blame any liberals. The situation is just like in villages, they bring their laws and way of life here. Although there are many countries where they will be understood and supported. I once lived in Astrakhan. A very cosmopolitan city. The most interesting thing is that visiting residents from the Caucasus behaved there as if on vacation. THOSE. at home you are within the bounds of decency, otherwise your own people will be put in their place, but at a party everything is possible. Such is the mentality. But there are many cases when Caucasians themselves put the same people in their place and call for order by different methods.

[Dwellernet]

The fact that Russia is not for Russians is clear from the adopted laws and policies of our government. I have another question: "When Russians become a minority, do our politicians and officials really think that they will be able to stay in power and manage the population, which will be alien to them in terms of religious, ethnic and everyday worldview? Or do they think that they will leave the country and live clover in European countries, where they are now confiscating their assets and property, depriving them of citizenship and residence permits?

[Arkadich]

Emotionally I agree with you, logically no. If you ban diasporas, you are trying to take away a person’s right to speak his own language from his culture. They will gather secretly, there will be more problems.

For crimes against the indigenous population

How to determine who is indigenous, I live where there are several nationalities and Russians are not the majority, and the lower the Yakut, suppose against whom the crimes are committed, but who are indigenous?
With the proof of loyalty, there are also questions on gender, age, health, etc.

Previously, police officers walked the streets and riot police provided assistance

The article also says a shortage of 90 thousand, despite the fact that the Ministry of Internal Affairs has already undergone several reductions.
There is no solution to be found here.

[Mityasha]

If you ban diasporas, you will try to take away a person's right to speak his native language from his culture.

Diasporas in their form now are organized crime groups with all the consequences with their lawyers, bumps that grandmothers collect and cover. And they cover well, even if the consequences of criminal acts do not stop. Knife in the side and urgently in the diaspora for protection.

With the proof of loyalty, there are also questions on gender, age, health, etc.

Well, then a question for you, why are my taxes going to support all these families, pay pensions, places in kindergartens and schools to the detriment of my compatriots. If they have done nothing but move for my country and do not plan in their vast majority. There are many ways to prove loyalty.

The article also says a shortage of 90 thousand, despite the fact that the Ministry of Internal Affairs has already undergone several reductions.

I am writing about this, that the shaft of dismissed employees for many reasons: insecurity, often tied hands, the number of smart inspectors is a multiple of the number of performers. Isn't it time to turn to face teachers, doctors, police (this word is closer to me)?
Where are the appeals of the leaders of the Central Asian republics: stand up for the defense of your new homeland to fight against Nazism! This is also not the case for the leaders of the diasporas, because moving here is a solution to financial problems with distant prospects.

[Arkadich]

It's incomparable, automatically write everyone in the organized criminal group.
Migrants work here; create wealth or goods, pay taxes. It happens illegally, but the question is for the state and departments. There are many indigenous people who work illegally, but for some reason you have no questions for them.
I have migrants working in my organization, 15-20 percent, and as I am not bitter to say, they often work no better, but more reliable.
As for turning with both hands in favor, although frankly, as a native of law enforcement agencies, I don’t see simple solutions there.
That's why there are no calls from the leaders of the diasporas, because there are no calls from their republics. How will he officially urge to go to the NWO if there is criminal prosecution in some republics.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Arkadich

I have migrants working in my organization, 15-20 percent, and as I am not bitter to say, they often work no better, but more reliable.

I understand that you are working in an unreliable way. Maybe give up your place to the conditional Ali? And it will be so when the number of migrants is not 15-20, but 50-55%.

[Arkadich]

I understand that you are working in an unreliable way.

On what basis did you draw this conclusion? Another time sucked from the finger? Of course they are inferior, I am not going to lead until old age, and who it will be Ali or Mali is not important to me.
As I understand it, when Ali drives you to work in the morning, your ulcer starts to hurt, and the bread is made by Musa or the bread brought by Ilgiz does not fit into your mouth?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Arkadich

On what basis did you draw this conclusion?

Based on this:

Quote: Arkadich

as I am not bitter to say, they often work no better, but more reliable.

Quote: Arkadich

As I understand it, when Ali drives you to work in the morning, your ulcer starts to hurt, and the bread is made by Musa or the bread brought by Ilgiz does not fit into your mouth?

Quite right. Therefore, I do not buy any shawarma shawarma.

[Arkadich]

But you go to work and eat bread, but at the same time you grind your teeth and think about Russia. That's better and figure out how to make the migrant's place work as a native, only work normally.
I already wrote that former immigrants often work more reliably than natives.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Arkadich

former immigrants often work more reliably than natives.

How is their reliability expressed? Explain.

[Arkadich]

Please, I work in logistics, warehouses. Work is often not standardized, i.e. the car may arrive on time, may be earlier or later. Therefore, it is often necessary to work in emergency mode. Therefore, I often let people go during working hours, and sometimes I ask them to stay late or drive up after hours. All this is paid, people know it. There is an emergency, ours (I will call it that for convenience) find a bunch of reasons not to come, children, drank, dacha, aliens can’t be shorter. Not ours, a call, an hour later, as if on alarm, right there. There are no problems with alcohol at all, at first the graters were for religion, they often need to pray, but the issue was also resolved. Draft work is taken without disdain, and I already know there is no need to go to double-check. Something like this.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Arkadich

There is an emergency, ours (I will call it that for convenience) find a bunch of reasons not to come, children, drank, dacha, aliens can’t be shorter. Not ours, a call, an hour later, as if on alarm, right there.

Wait, they’ll bring the children, build a dacha, and the aliens will appear. And at odd hours there should be a double rate.

Quote: Arkadich

That's better and figure out how to make the migrant's place work as a native, only work normally.

You yourself, judging by the patronymic, are native. But you work reliably, according to you. Or is it all the same a guest worker, since ours cannot reliably?

[Arkadich]

Wait, they’ll bring the children, build a dacha, and the aliens will appear. And at odd hours there should be a double rate.

So what will they bring? What are you worried about, the purity of the nation? It all depends on us, from the authorities there will be a law at the head, then what difference does it make who your neighbor is, and if there is no law, what difference does it make to you who will kill you, a Russian or an Uzbek?
Don't open America to me about double rates, once again I say it's not about pay, but about attitude to life.

You yourself, judging by the patronymic - indigenous

Russian with a small drop of Tatar blood.

[Dart]

People like you will be targeted first of all in the migrant revolt.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Arkadich

Ban you diaspora, you try to deprive a person of the right to speak his native language from his culture

Do not confuse the diaspora and the cultural center.

[Arkadich]

Here also do not confuse. Type what the word "diaspora" and "cultural center" mean

[nikolaevskiy78]

The shortfall will be filled by Tajiks. As doctors, my mother is already stunned by all sorts of Ogly, Mardaperdaherpoymiberdoeva, Khrenpoymiktosharkatmarkatmavlyutvna, Shakhzodaperdaberdytfuhrenpoyminaziyevna and other doctors who can only write out certificates. It's not even about migration as such, they are stupid and uneducated Selyuks. With all the consequences. A cough woman in the center of Moscow at the rate of a therapist. Honestly, it's not funny.

[Arkadich]

Judging by the comments, you are an enlightened urban Nazi.

[nikolaevskiy78]

Come on, whitewash the black, as I understand it, you are happy with everything, then what is stopping you from filling all 100% of jobs in your organization with migrants. It's like you write "more reliable", you will have a 100% reliable organization.

[Arkadich]

Let's whitewash the black

I didn't understand what you wanted to say.

then what is stopping you in your organization from filling all 100% of jobs with migrants.

A small number of specialists among not ours. After all, what is a migrant? This is a loser. It didn’t work out in his homeland, so he came to look for a better life, and these are mostly people without a profession.
I understand your indignation, but apart from emotions, you have not yet offered anything specific.
I don’t know about “stupid” doctors, it seems to me that you are exaggerating what is the point of the head physician toiling with them. And there are enough rude ones among ours.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: nikolaevskiy78

Come on, whitewash the black, as I understand it, you are happy with everything, then what is stopping you from filling all 100% of jobs in your organization with migrants. It's like you write "more reliable", you will have a 100% reliable organization.

Then his boss will be some kind of Babai-zade and the entire migrant team will have him in the rear all working day in the storeroom.

[Dart]

God forgive you such a doctor and your children!

[pettabyte]

No, well, this is some kind of grunt.
A doctor is a specialist whose training is much more difficult and takes longer than a degenerate programmer/accountant/lawyer and other skanks.
It’s better to let doctors go than general workers.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: pettabyte

No, well, this is some kind of grunt.
A doctor is a specialist whose training is much more difficult and takes longer than a degenerate programmer/accountant/lawyer and other skanks.
It’s better to let doctors go than general workers.

So they have communication at the level of bulla-mulda and plantain treatment.

[AdAstra]

The fact that all the heavy ones from the Ministry of Internal Affairs to the guardsmen of the cardinal were given away is generally fierce nonsense.

[saigon]

Oh, and it’s not true about the lack of personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, ho and slyly to the limit. The worst thing is that it is precisely those who are dragging service on the street that are missing. But checking , checking and vigilant full set however . According to (let's say an abstract company of the teaching staff), if everyone (let's skip the word) is forced to serve at least twice a week on the streets, I will send patrols from majors with polkans on duty on a divorce. Although, besides the whistle, they can’t give them anything - they will love it.

[Dave36]

Believe me - there is a severe shortage in all lines, with the exception of MREO)) When the salary of a food delivery man, a taxi driver, a scooter battery carrier became at least twice as high as an ordinary employee of the teaching staff, for example ... then we didn’t have policemen at least, but how many teachers gave up his profession and sits in his apartment doing nails...etc. The government is ordinary people in terms of worldview, not ideological, as a rule, materialists.

[vladcub]

Inspectors were always and everywhere. The question is, the number of inspectors and what kind of inspectors are they? Read Martirosyan and the Kremlev

[north 2]

This problem begins even in their homelands, before the departure of migrants to Russia. In the article, the author refers to these homelands as fraternal republics. In a word, if nonsense about fraternal republics would have been at the beginning of the article, then the article would not have been worth reading ...
So, the way the author will look at the programs of TV channels in Armenia, in Central Asia, how the local state ideology is tuned in relation to Russia and to the NWO. What notes of friendship can you find there? What is Russia's support for the ongoing NWO? Maybe Pashanyan or Aliyev or the Central Asian bais recognized Crimea as Russian and supported the need to end the Russian genocide in Ukraine with the help of the NWO? What are you! They and their media are 24 hours a day against Russia. And we want that from such "upbringing" migrants brought up differently would come to Russia. For that, again, we break our foreheads in bows - friendly republics, friendly republics ...

[antivirus]

Into emptiness...
We didn’t revise the “I apologize” policy to the bbl, as we started, we continue.
Caucasus..
Middle Asia..
China...
Everything is broken about pessimism and lack of optimism, development prospects. The birth rate will be and is now an indicator of faith in the future.
We are dying out.
replace

[Doccor18]

Quote: antivirus

Into emptiness...

That's for sure.
While here (and not only) there is indignation and misunderstanding, several tens/hundreds of thousands more new working people with their families have been brought there... Some will never hear others, they are too far away, and others will not understand, because they do not know the language. It is a pity that all this will inevitably someday end in a social explosion, from which absolutely everyone will suffer, except those who manage to jump into their jet at the airfield at the last moment...

[ZloyCat]

"except for those who have time to jump into their jet at the airfield at the last moment ..."
which will be defended on takeoff by Kadyrov's army

[vladcub]

Let's put the "Kadyrovtsy" honestly fighting without show-offs.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: vladcub

Let's put the "Kadyrovtsy" honestly fighting without show-offs.

And ready to fight with WAGNER. The one who came up with the idea of ​​​​using the "PMC" Akhmat "against the WAGNERS is a complete Dolmatian.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Doccor18

It’s a pity that all this will inevitably someday end in a social explosion, from which absolutely everyone will suffer, except those who manage to jump into their jet at the airfield at the last moment...

You still have to fly from the airfield to the border... you know how it is with jets.

[Essex62]

Do they have somewhere to fly on a jet? They'll rob you and that's it. Having started a mess by butting heads with spiritual mentors, the Russian backbone sawed off a branch for himself.

[parusnik]

chronic shortage of personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs

Enough, enough. If back in the early 90s, roughly speaking, there were 1 person checking for 10 people, then to zero, the proportion changed to 5 checkers per employee, I don’t think that the situation has changed. For example, in our country, in early 2000- x, in the district, there were some kind of police departments in the villages, district police, teaching staff inspector for minors, now, as colleagues say, only district police officers and those are in short supply. And the number of inspectors is growing and all sorts of private security companies by the way. something like witnesses, witnesses. And why did this happen? Such departments were in densely populated villages, and then the population began to decrease, primarily due to unemployment in the countryside, yes, yes ..

[Lynx2000]

Quote: parusnik

chronic shortage of personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs

Enough, enough. If back in the early 90s, roughly speaking, there were 1 person checking for 10 people, then to zero, the proportion changed to 5 checkers per employee, I don’t think that the situation has changed. For example, in our country, in early 2000- x, in the district, there were some kind of police departments in the villages, district police, teaching staff inspector for minors, now, as colleagues say, only district police officers and those are in short supply. And the number of inspectors is growing and all sorts of private security companies by the way. something like witnesses, witnesses. And why did this happen? Such departments were in densely populated villages, and then the population began to decrease, primarily due to unemployment in the countryside, yes, yes ..

The militia itself (police) was divided into public security police (the same police department) and criminal police (the same criminal investigation department, etc.).
Were your villages district centers, or large settlements within municipal districts? The district department of internal affairs ensures public safety, suppression, detection and detection of crimes in the district; branches of the Ministry of Internal Affairs may be located in other large districts.
Now “optimization” is being heard when they united two rural districts into one police department, or in an urban district, in addition to creating an inter-municipal police department with a zone of responsibility for several districts, in each of which there is one police department for 3-5 rural settlements and thank God if there is a police department saved.
Previously, in the 90s, and even at the beginning of the XNUMXs, operational intelligence activities were carried out through national diasporas, the work was difficult.
Over the past 10-13 years, the authorities somehow purposefully “beat on the hands” when solving/suppressing crimes committed by migrants, disciplinary measures were applied to employees at best. In recent years, I have noticed that when employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs perform their duties in terms of suppressing crimes by migrants, if there is no public outcry, the employees are brought to criminal liability. Diasporas purposefully support and promote their “representatives” to regional legislative authorities, executive authorities (including the Ministry of Internal Affairs), and protect their fellow countrymen-criminals through such representatives and lawyers.
I am sure that the time has come for the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs to check the past and the involvement in crime of representatives of various diasporas sitting in legislative assemblies and administrations of the regions, holding positions in state enterprises, police departments, etc.
In addition, recently new measures of criminal liability have been introduced; in several cases, attacks (attempts on life, purposefully) by migrants were committed based on hostility as a member of the SVO, this is no longer a “hooligan”.

[vladcub]

Lyosh, good day. "only a district police officer", where I now live, there were 5 district police officers, and now 2 ...
In the seventies, one was: "Mikhalych", he knew all the "buzoters".
In 1979 they moved here, he was already retired, but everyone respected him.
A little who starts to "buzz". Call Mikhalych? And complete order.
A cousin told me: they had a juvenile inspector. 2 schools were afraid of her: Roza Amirovna, she knew everyone for count. Could use a belt. But she was respected
In 1996, someone took her under KAMAZ. Several thousand were ready to take revenge.
It's not about quantity, but quality.

[Vladimir_2U]

That is why in the USSR, with all its "internationalism" and a single internal passport for EVERYONE, there was practically no problem of fucking migrants?

[dmi.pris1]

Because there were no migrants themselves. They sat in villages, individual representatives who were capable of learning went to other republics of the USSR, but it was not massive. took off in the late eighties.

[your1970]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

That is why in the USSR, with all its "internationalism" and a single internal passport for EVERYONE, there was practically no problem of fucking migrants?

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Because there were no migrants themselves. They sat in the villages, some representatives who were capable of studying went to other republics of the USSR, but this was not en masse

The Moscow "Limita" of the 1970s AZLK and ZIL neighs over you ...
There was just no Internet back then.
There were channels 1 and 2 - what a miracle, and now they are also about “steel smelting per capita and about overtaking America.”
When, due to the removal of Kunaev in Kazakhstan in the 80s, Russians were beaten for half a year, this was not shown on Channel 1.
They gave a small note in the newspapers - “but everything is fine.”
And yes, we have villages in the Saratov Trans-Volga region Kurds(!!!!) there were still BEFORE Brezhnev's death.
And yet, 3/4 (at least!!!) of migrant workers are NOT Those who came in large numbers from the Central Asian republics are our citizens who were born and have always lived in Russia.
Those who went on “shift” to Moscow due to lack of work at home, for example, in the Saratov Trans-Volga region.
And for Maskvich, a Kazakh from Karaganda and a Kazakh from Aleksandrov Gay are equally “black”.
And yet, very few people are now entering the country from there.
The exchange rate of the ruble, the fall in demand, the rise in price of everything, Covid (when entire camps were created in Orenburg because they could not leave - Kazakhstan did not allow them) - led to the fact that it became unprofitable for them to travel here. And the groans about them coming in large numbers continue - which is confirmed by my words .

[dmi.pris1]

Where did you see Tajiks and Uzbeks in the Moscow limit of that time ... Especially at ... Moscow factories?

[Unknown]

Quote: your1970

The Moscow "Limita" of the 1970s AZLK and ZIL laughs at you.

Limit - now Muscovites, who are from central Russia, his name is Ivan, not Ravshan, he speaks Russian and our mentality. The specialists were

I did not bring the laws of the mountains, Sharia and Adat with me.

Quote: your1970

removal of Kunaev in Kazakhstan in the 80s beat Russians for six months

Where did such information come from, at that time they walked under the table. Russians, as now, were not beaten there. The Tula Airborne Forces and the USSR Airborne Forces drove everyone into holes, they could not show their noses.

Quote: your1970

And yet, very few people are now entering the country from there.

Do you live along the way not in the Russian Federation? Are you going outside? Yes, they are everywhere! In the first three months alone, 1,3 million migrants entered Russia to work, according to statistics published in the Unified Non-Departmental Information and Statistical System.

[your1970]

Quote: Unknown

Do you live along the way not in the Russian Federation? Are you going outside? Yes, they are everywhere!

For you personally Saratov Zavolzhie, border with Kazakhstan.
and yes, in the photo in suits, it’s straight without exception hard workers from the assembly line ...
Window dressing is our dear ...

Quote: Unknown

Russians, as now, were not beaten there.

- by virtue of places of residencebut I know how Russians were beaten in Kazakhstan. Yes, in the 1980s they were beaten less than in the 1990s. But it was not easier for Russians to live there because of this.
And yes, for some reason, the VVshniki did an infantry parade for demobilization, yeah, and the commanders didn’t really interfere with this. And they drove around Kazakhstan strictly in civilian clothes ...

[ZloyCat]

"and yes, in the photo in suits, it's straight without exception hard workers from the assembly line ..."
open wide your narrow eyes - there are only two in suits, the rest are hard workers from the assembly line. but in your villages they could not distinguish this

[your1970]

Quote: ZloyKot

"and yes, in the photo in suits, it's straight without exception hard workers from the assembly line ..."
open wide your narrow eyes - there are only two in suits, the rest are hard workers from the assembly line. but in your villages they could not distinguish this

open your eyes wider-what now what then - working extras portrayed specially selected people.
We passed and saw...

[your1970]

Quote: ZloyKot

"
open yours wider narrow eyes - there are only two in suits, the rest are assembly line workers. But in your villages they couldn't tell the difference

- immediately visible "a Soviet internationalist who does not distinguish between nationalities."
It seems that’s what they said on Channel 1 and in the newspapers back then?
except that he didn’t call it culturally - "narrow-eyed chick"

[Bulrumeb]

in Kazakhstan they traveled strictly in civilian clothes ...

Blatant lies. Since the 90s, he has repeatedly traveled and has never changed into a civilian or infantry uniform. Those who guarded the "lip" rode in civilian life, it was, but the reasons for this are completely different.

[your1970]

Quote: Bulrumeb

Since 90, I traveled several times and never changed into either civilian or infantry uniform.

- and where did you VVshnik apparently go? to Kazakhstan(!!!) in form (!!) in the 1990s (!!) I’m embarrassed to ask?!!! It’s blatant nonsense, isn’t it? Or if you haven’t read it, you’re blurting it out?

Quote: your1970

And by Kazakhstan We were driving strictly in civilian clothes...

[Dante Alighieri]

And the moans about coming in large numbers continue

Mute not exactly. Kazakhs really don't come here, it's true. And why should they come here when they are building their Singapore? But Tajiks with Uzbeks make up a good half of all passenger aircraft arriving in Tolmachevo, I won’t say anything about the piece of iron at all.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: your1970

The Moscow "Limita" of the 1970s AZLK and ZIL neighs over you ...

I talked with the Moscow limit of the 70s, with ZiL. Russians. Throughout the 80s, I rode to Moscow several times a year, I did not particularly see people of Caucasian nationality. There were, of course, but the percentage is negligible. In our city, what could be called a "diaspora" with a stretch, in the bazaar, mostly Georgians, traded watermelons and grapes. At the factory where I worked, out of a XNUMX-strong team, I remember only two visitors, a Dagestani and a Turkmen. So lie, don't lie.

[your1970]

Quote: Mordvin 3

At the factory where I worked, from a team of one and a half thousand, I remember only two visitors, a Dagestan and a Turkmen

Aunt's neighbor Azerbaijani - received an apartment on Profsoyuznaya as a young specialist - engineer at ZIL in 1984.
Hard workers - I didn’t count limiters on the assembly line - I can’t say anything.
Cheryomushkinsky and Danilovsky market in 1984 - only Caucasians.
Yes and any market then exclusively non-local

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: your1970

Yes and any market then exclusively non-local

I was at the market with my grandfather in the late 70s, my grandfather was selling cabbage and carrots from the garden. Not locals, yeah.

[your1970]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: your1970

Yes and any market then exclusively non-local

I was at the market with my grandfather in the late 70s, my grandfather was selling cabbage and carrots from the garden. Not locals, yeah.

then turn on any SOVIET(!!!!!!!!) a movie where there is a market - for example, "Station for Two" - and look who was selling there...

Quote: Mordvin 3

At the bazaar, mostly Georgians were selling watermelons and grapes.

Quote: Mordvin 3

Himself with grandfather

-your grandfather is apparently Georgian...At least you YOURSELF read - you damn sure don’t read my arguments....

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: your1970

- your grandfather is Georgian, apparently... At least you read YOURSELF - you damn sure don’t read my arguments....

Your arguments make me sick. Cinema... damn. You yourself are Georgian. And if you don’t get it, then I’ll explain that the Gasters were mostly Georgians at the market, and so everyone traded there whoever wanted.

[your1970]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Your arguments make me sick. Cinema... damn.

-when people don’t remember what happened in reality, these are brain diseases. Head...
Any SOVIET (!!!!) cinema where there is a market, there will always be Caucasians/Central Asians.
And yes, because you NOT remember the obvious things

Quote: Mordvin 3

At the bazaar, mostly Georgians were selling watermelons and grapes.

-there weren’t any fewer of them then.
However, “the grass was greener...” is about you....

[ZloyCat]

"My aunt's neighbor is Azerbaijani - he got an apartment on Profsoyuznaya Street as a young specialist - an engineer at ZIL in 1984."
in 1984 he was not an Azerbaijani, but a young specialist. That's why I got an apartment. I myself got an apartment in 1982, however, not on a zil

[your1970]

Quote: ZloyKot

in 1984 he was not an Azerbaijani, but a young specialist. That's why I got an apartment. I myself got an apartment in 1982, however, not on a zil

if he was NOT Azerbaijani in 1984 - then why the hell is Moscow offended for “coming in large numbers”?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: your1970

The Moscow "Limita" of the 1970s AZLK and ZIL neighs over you ...

Yes, you are still that balabol ... And the limit of the 70s was mostly Russian, and even later, the Vietnamese-Korean limit did not create problems. You are a balabol!

[Sergej1972]

The second secretaries were not always Russians, although, indeed, most often Russians and Ukrainians. The main thing is that they were not from this republic. The same Russian, but local, has never been the second secretary of the local Central Committee or regional committee.

[stelltok]

Because in the USSR, there were no migration flows. Everyone sat at home.

[Alexey RA]

Quote from stelltok

Because in the USSR, there were no migration flows.

Were. In addition to the well-known all-Union construction projects, there was also personnel assistance - when a plant was being built in the national republic, and then workers from the RSFSR were sent there, because the locals were reluctant to work.

[your1970]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote from stelltok

Because in the USSR, there were no migration flows.

Were. In addition to the well-known all-Union construction projects, there was also personnel assistance - when a plant was being built in the national republic, and then workers from the RSFSR were sent there, because the locals were reluctant to work.

I gave an example

Quote: your1970

And yes, we have villages in the Saratov Trans-Volga region Kurds(!!!!) there were still BEFORE Brezhnev's death.
And yet - 3/4 (at least!!!) of guest workers are NOT those who came in large numbers from the Central Asian republics - these are our citizens who were born and have always lived in Russia.

and there were also villages Moldovans-also not a very typical contingent for the Saratov region

[nznz]

simple question.
In the USSR, our "brothers" lived in many republics better than Russians. It was believed that the Russian proletariat and the peasantry were obliged to help their class brothers in the republics. Well, they helped so much that they themselves barely made ends meet. judge for yourself. The pro-Baltic countries - in the USSR were privileged - to have a trump card against Western propaganda. They say how they developed, the factories of the VEF, RAF and a bunch of others. many. they did not run away from the RSFSR from a good life. Georgia was generally number 1. There were many jokes about their fabulous wealth. They lived in Nizhny Novgorod for months, they took the Volga in line. And in order to get the necessary equipment, they gave two prices. Dad buy me Volga?! Gogi, why do you need this Volga, with all its marinas and steamers?
The reason for this enrichment of Georgia is also known: when they began to fight against the guilds and the shadow economy, they tightened the screws everywhere, they imprisoned businessmen of the shadow business. - shoe factories were shoved in 3 shifts legally. all the salaries of the workers, the sale of all the chalk. the era of shortage. in the end, I myself saw what money was doing with our girls. In restaurants ..
that’s why the migrants didn’t come here. they had nothing to do here. and all of our janitors were

[Alexey RA]

Quote: nznz

The reason for this enrichment of Georgia is also known: when they began to fight against the guilds and the shadow economy, they tightened the screws everywhere, they imprisoned businessmen of the shadow business. But Shevardnadze did not give it away (perhaps someone who read it a very long time ago) and the shadow workers flourished there beautifully.

Chevy, after coming to power, simply transferred the shadow business under a new roof. All landings in Georgia were limited to leadership - a new broom swept the past clan out of power. And the basis of the economic well-being of Chevy's predecessor practically did not touch - except perhaps the most stubborn ones who decided not to go under a new hand.
And in general, the shadow economy of the USSR was a phenomenon of the Union scale. And it was far from regional leaders who covered it. Just imagine - at what level is it necessary to protect a system in which a quarter of the cotton harvest of the Union Republic can disappear from documents in the shade, but in fact this cotton will be collected, transported across half the country, processed and turned into fabric. Moreover, all these stages will be carried out by state-owned enterprises.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

That is why in the USSR, with all its "internationalism" and a single internal passport for EVERYONE, there was practically no problem of fucking migrants?

Because then they did not have to go to the RSFSR to show off the Russians. The Russians themselves went to them, so the locals successfully did this in their republics.

[Feodor13]

And to the main lobbyists in addition to the ministries,
we must also include the leadership of the city of Moscow,
and the Moscow construction companies that feed on them.
Moscow has become an "acceleration module" for the intervention of migrant workers.
And then other million-plus cities have already pulled up.

Moscow in its hyper-development rage to this day,
does not even want to hear about alternatives. And the state does it in every possible way.
One example of an increase in the territory of Moscow to the southwest - what is it worth.
For these funds it was possible to create a new capital in Siberia.

And there were alternatives. Economists call this sustainable development.
When development is ensured by the development of other spheres of society.

As a result - "Sobyanins" (sovereign people supposedly) -
built housing for future Upper Lars attack aircraft,
for 30-year-old infantiles with beards on scooters,
and the province, in the end, real Citizens (on whom Russia stands) - sent to the NWO.
Now the province is also suffering humiliation from guest workers.
The police are not enough ... not in Moscow, in the regions!

[your1970]

Quote: Feodor13

а provinces in the end, real Citizens (on whom Russia stands) - sent to the NWO

Purely for the sake of justice - in Moscow, 46 people were called up for the SVO.

[ZloyCat]

"Purely for the sake of justice - in Moscow 46 people were called up for the SVO"
out of 12? do you calculate the percentage?

[Mishka78]

Quote: ZloyKot

do you calculate the percentage?

It is not difficult. As part of the partial mobilization, 300 people were called up.
46000*100/300000=15,33(3)
There are 89 subjects in Russia, plans were made by the country's leadership for each region individually.

“In accordance with the decree of the President [of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin] dated September 21, 300 people were called up during partial mobilization,” the head of the Defense Ministry said at a conference call.
On October 31, Putin announced that the partial mobilization in Russia, which began on September 21, had been completed. The Ministry of Defense on the same day announced the cessation of activities within the framework of partial mobilization.

[Sergej1972]

Moscow has about 13 million people, that is, less than 10 percent of the population of the Russian Federation. And 46 out of 300 mobilized is clearly more than 10 percent.

[dmi.pris1]

Smiled about the Foreign Ministry, or rather, bitter sarcasm) What to do? Try not to let these migrants go. many Armenians live in the region and decided not to pedal it in the media.

[AA17]

Russia conducts NWO. Some Russian physically strong men are participating in the fighting in Ukraine. At this time, their place in Russian society is occupied by migrants who are alien to the culture of Russia.
The Russians can only unite to protect themselves. This is a necessity.

...We must realize this and evaluate ourselves, understand our responsibility and find a way to organize ourselves...

The phrase is good, however, it was said about something else.

P.S. Maybe it's for the best.
Finally, the eyes of certain Russian citizens will open, for whom "who else to vote for?"

[Oberon 36]

Excuse me, do you really think that voting will change something? In my opinion, the chances for this are gone. The system has become established and is now capable of protecting itself from such nuances - we will choose whoever we need.

[AA17]

Excuse me, do you really think that voting will change something?

The question is interesting, but also provocative.
My answer again:
"...We must realize this and evaluate ourselves, understand our responsibility and find a way to organize ourselves...".

[Dante Alighieri]

and find a way to self-organize

The main thing is that later the consequences of such "self-organization" should not be called by the citizen chief an illegal bandit formation or even an illegal armed group (Article 208 of the Criminal Code from 10 to 20)

[Oberon 36]

No provocations. In this question, I expressed my personal opinion on this issue. If someone thinks differently - his right. Surely their opinion is based on something.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote from Oberon 36

Surely their opinion is based on something.

Sitting on the priest exactly, except for bedsores, you will not sit through anything.

[Gardamir]

About desire. The entire Soviet Union voted in a referendum to preserve it. But the desire was to dive into the market with a human face.
The wish came true.
So now, everyone will want to change together, it will come true.

[Gaersul]

Methods have long been proposed: 1. The ban on dual citizenship (perhaps the main thing). 2. Introduction of a visa regime with the countries of the SA and Transcaucasia. 3. When attracting foreign specialists, the employer is obliged to prove that he needs this particular specialist (if we are talking about skilled workers) and work exclusively on a rotational basis for unskilled labor. 4. A complete ban on the entry into the territory of the Russian Federation of foreign "specialists" who had at least one offense on the territory of the Russian Federation (including even administrative offenses). 4. Responsibility of employers in case of violation by their employees from among the attracted foreign specialists of the Russian legislation (depending on the severity of the offense committed, up to the revocation of a business license and a ban on its conduct). 5. Strict observance of the laws of the Russian Federation when crimes are committed on the territory of the Russian Federation by foreign citizens or persons who have acquired citizenship. 6. A ban on the importation into the territory of the Russian Federation of relatives of attracted foreign specialists from among unskilled workers (since they plan to work on a rotational basis). 7. In the end, define which peoples are the indigenous peoples of Russia and, accordingly, grant Russian citizenship, in a preferential manner, to representatives of these peoples (it is obvious that peoples who have their own national formations outside the Russian Federation cannot be indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation). 8. Revision of the issued citizenship of the Russian Federation to foreign citizens starting from the moment of the formation of the Russian Federation.
And yes, of course, all these measures are fantastic nonsense that has nothing to do with reality.

[2 Level Advisor]

Some of your proposals seem to have a bad effect on demographic statistics - what should we do then?

[your1970]

Quote: Gaersul

7. Finally, define which peoples are the indigenous peoples of Russia and, accordingly, grant Russian citizenship, preferentially, to representatives of these peoples(obviously, peoples who have their own national formations outside the Russian Federation cannot be indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation). 8.

"national entities"- what do you mean by this? Mono-states of one nation? they don't exist in nature...
But the most important thing is that until relatively recently there were states that had national Russian entities (with a state Russian language). And this cuts your idea into Russians. will automatically become NOT native people according to your scheme. Together for company with ALL other peoples of the Russian Federation
so as you correctly noted, your suggestions

Quote: Gaersul

are fantastic nonsense that has nothing to do with reality

[Vladimir80]

on the subject: it’s difficult to deal with migrants who do not have Russian citizenship, but it’s possible ... it’s impossible to deal with migrants who have received a Russian passport thanks to our laws - the reason for distributing passports is in officials, who thus improve performance, population growth, GDP and other "phony "rubbish ... how to make sure that in 15 years you do not end up in the central village of Moskvabad, the Vasileostrovsky aul of St. Petersburg or the Zavolzhsky ulus of Yaroslavl ??? just give birth to children, teach them your language, culture and traditions, help fellow citizens (not newly-born) with children, do not waste time on emptiness, set a positive example for others!

[Non-fighter]

The only thing that comes to mind is a repeated exam for knowledge of the Russian language. Whom to invite to the "re-assessment" - for starters, those whose children do not know the Russian language, according to the complaint of the school. The child does not speak Russian, which means that the family of this child speaks another language. Re-examination, and deprivation of citizenship.

[your1970]

Quote: Vladimir80

Zavolzhsky ulus

- why do you need Trans-Volga region? RF do not like??

[Dimy4]

If we defend ourselves, then we will definitely be convicted and imprisoned, 100%. And these will pay off.

[Karabin]

Quote: Dimy4

If we defend ourselves, then we will definitely be convicted and imprisoned,

And if we don’t, then our children and grandchildren will become third-class people in our once country.

[FoBoss_VM]

The war will end. And thousands and thousands of men who are not afraid of the devil or the devil will return home. And then Khan to all these ethnic groups who blather at least a little dare to lift their paw

[Mordvin 3]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

The war will end. And thousands and thousands of men who are not afraid of the devil or the devil will return home. And then Khan to all these ethnic groups who blather at least a little dare to lift their paw

Well, yes, but now you can be patient. Only now thousands of peasants will return, disperse throughout Russia, and they will be unnoticed. As many as 46 were called up from Moscow, as Svoi wrote. Against one and a half million only official migrants.

[ZloyCat]

"And then Khan to all these ethnic groups, whoever blathers even a little dares to lift his paw"
dreaming . it will be easier to press those men for anything, so that they were afraid to breathe. and the diasporas have already brought it in, and they will bring it in again. and no one will take you

[your1970]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

The war will end. And thousands and thousands of men who are not afraid of the devil or the devil will return home. And then Khan to all these ethnic groups who blather at least a little dare to lift their paw

Already seen - in the 1990s. When the “Afghans” shared spheres of influence with crime and ethnic groups. And by 1998, the Afghans and ethnic group and crime somehow calmed down greatly - because in the cemeteries the alleys quickly began to grow too much...

[Gomunkul]

The group Disco Accident has a good song, it reflects the whole essence of modern Russia. It is high time for us ordinary citizens of this country to understand that no one will solve our problems except ourselves, it is time to unite into civil society. If the state is not capable of solving the problems of the people, then why do we need it? An example is ancient Rome, when the common people demonstrated to the elite that they were worthless without them:

Secession (lat. secessio, from secedo - I’m leaving) - a demonstrative departure of the plebeians (lat. secessio plebis) of the early Roman Republic in 494, 449, 445, 342 and 287 BC. e. to the Aventine Hill and/or the Sacred Mountain, which at that time were located outside the city limits.
Secession was an effective form of struggle of the plebeians against the patricians for their political and social rights, since the massive exodus of the population from Rome (and the bulk of the townspeople consisted of the plebs) paralyzed the economic life of the city.

The site does not allow publishing the full text of the song Evil, so only part of the text from Disco Accident:

...
If not ourselves,
No one will ever take pity on us
Look, it's already approaching
How did that happen?
It seems your life flowed carefree,
Evil has sunk into oblivion, freedom is intoxicating ahead
And what, freedom, here it is -
Your land has been sold, has already been picked up by someone,
And you seem to approve
And your friends are beaten and ravaged
In the new happy life, few survived
Huts are built instead of fortresses
Yourself on the sidelines
Try to guess who's next in line
Evil doesn't do anything halfway.
You decided - he is not,
It just went to your back
...

[kor1vet1974]

The fact that in the highest circles of the Russian government there is a certain migrant lobby

Maybe we should start from the highest circles? No lobby, no migrants.

[Million]

The problem is not migrants and diasporas, the problem is in the Kremlin.
They cannot fail to understand the complexity of the situation, but they do nothing, therefore, it was intended that way.

[Vladimir80]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

thousands and thousands of men who are not afraid of the devil or the devil will return home.

God forbid that they return, and not disabled ... But so far everything is developing in a different direction, unfortunately

[antiaircrafter]

there are new metastases of ethnocrime in Russia.
Who is to blame and what to do?

Any surgeon knows the answer - the tumor is usually excised, metastases are poisoned with chemistry.

the monopoly on violence remains the exclusive prerogative of the state - a deviation from this rule threatens to collapse. People's combatants can easily and naturally evolve into criminal structures with an ultranationalist basis.

For some reason, they did not evolve under Soviet power, because they acted under the auspices of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. This is purely a matter of management and organization.

According to Minister Kolokoltsev, the structure lacks more than 90 thousand employees.

For the bureaucracy in the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is beyond all measures. Gave the swindler in the forehead - come up with three tons of paper replies. Who will work under such conditions? Only paperwork.

Then we will inevitably see squads of NVO veterans who will not stand on ceremony with the gangster offspring.

And it will be an exceptionally correct decision. Since the state does not use its right to violence and does not ensure the safety of citizens, citizens will have to use their primordial right to Russian rebellion in order to cleanse society from an alien element.

In the short term, it is worth remembering about diasporas in Russia

Recall and eliminate, like organized crime groups.

Where are the Armenian, Azerbaijani and other battalions at the front?

In bazaars and markets. At one time, they were not even eager to defend their native Azerbaijan and the Armenians.

For example, where are the caravans to the front from Russian Tajiks, who every year are becoming more and more in the country?

In the same place where the Armenian and Azerbaijani.

Sounds like an oxymoron, but it's true - discontent is brewing inside the country the Russians against the backdrop of a special operation.

Discontent is brewing not with the Russians. The Russians are also quite satisfied with themselves. In Russia, dissatisfaction with the Russians is ripening on the part of those who have come in large numbers.

[kakvastam]

what is more important for us: well-being in the labor market and the rapid construction of skyscrapers in Moscow City or the lives and honor of our compatriots.

To those "us" who make money on migrants, on the life and honor of our compatriots spit from their high bell tower.

[Gardamir]

It was suggested to you as an excuse that they earn. Our house is being overhauled, there are not enough workers. There are also not enough janitors.
But there are a lot of migrants in hospitals, clinics, hairdressers, they know how to shear sheep. Migrants in trade, different offices. They are everywhere.

[kakvastam]

And what, no one earns on their delivery? Some sell them passports, others save on taxes for those who are too lazy to buy a passport. And where one "migrant" settled down, there soon becomes nothing for the locals to catch, they simply survive. Yes, and the cops are now through one of the "new Russians", especially the district police officers, and therefore we have no one to rely on.
What our adored authorities arranged is no longer a disaster, it's p @ c.

[BAI]

All visitors - to the front. If you want a Russian passport - deserve it

[kakvastam]

In any case, this will have to be resolved, otherwise the case in Bataysk will become commonplace.

No "otherwise".
Well, why should Mr. Putin and his family deal with such trifles, they think globally.
They are doing well as it is.

[nikolaevskiy78]

Everything is written correctly and nothing will change. We are apparently waiting for another 12 years in the style of Groundhog Day. Already in Kazakhstan, the minimum wage is higher than ours in terms of currency. And we will continue to "dress better."
I do not see a way out of the situation when the control system resembles a girl who can only say "But I'm still good." No matter what happens, "good." Apparently later there will come a moment when any communication between the top and bottom will be interrupted. Management is Martians. There was such a cartoon in the 90s "Rocker Mice from Mars". Here it is about them.

[ximkim]

As long as Putin is in power, such crimes will gain momentum.

[AdAstra]

Again. Dear Authors, write it not here, but to the address of V.V. Deceived, and then suddenly he is not aware, the evil boyars hide, and suddenly something will move from its place. And then you wrote here, wrote correctly, but what's the point of this? Everyone was noted with angry comments, they let off steam on the whistle and that's it, and everything, as it was, is going on as usual. And yet, yes, with the Ku-Kuklas-Klan in the SGA, not everything is so unambiguous in the direction of bad.

[kor1vet1974]

Yes, you are right. And if you take into account who signs the Federal Law regarding migrants, he probably doesn’t read them. All these problems written in the article do not matter to them there.

[AdAstra]

Vooot, regarding the signing of all such federal laws, you are not right on the brow, but between the legs.

[Ivan Seversky]

A few years ago, I dealt with the topic of migration in the N-ske region, and I will tell you how it is seen from a practical point of view.
First, it is necessary to clearly distinguish between labor migration and those who receive Russian passports. It doesn't need to be mixed.

Regarding labor migrants. For business, the benefit of migrants in the first place is that you can save on taxes. A citizen of the Russian Federation pays 13% personal income tax and 30% UST.
A migrant receives only 13% of personal income tax, most of which he pays in advance on his own, buying a patent for 6.5 thousand rubles. per month.
With a salary of 50 per hand, a migrant will cost 1.5 times cheaper (51 versus 75) than a citizen of the Russian Federation. Therefore, businesses in industries that do not require qualifications prefer migrants to Russians.
Patents are bought by half of the migrants, the rest work illegally, of those who bought patents, a third do not know where they work.

The solution:
1. Increasing the price of a patent to the level of the tax burden of a Russian: 30 thousand, instead of 6.5 thousand, and in regions with high salaries, more (according to Rosstat in 2022, the average salary in Russia is 57 thousand “on hand”)
2. Banning citizens from countries with a large number of migrants from staying in the Russian Federation for more than 2 weeks a year without buying a patent. 10-fold fines, entry ban and other measures of influence for illegal stay of migrants.
This will reduce the number of migrants in the country at the same time and increase the collection of taxes.

About the distribution of passports - more

[Non-fighter]

I'm not a prophet, but I see how it all ends. Recently there was an article about Mussolini and his march on Rome. Who was at the base? War veterans who returned home and asked the question "What did we fight for?"
There will be no march on Moscow, but there will be local marches on the most egregious cases of ethnic crime. And what? Or landing for long periods, investigating old cases, or ... In general, we are waiting for "death squadrons". This is a group of 10-15 people armed with military weapons, accustomed to killing, weakly connected with crime and enjoying the support of us.
People's squads? What powers do they have? When the same vigilantes see the "new Russian" on the street, whom they handed over to the police just yesterday, they will have doubts about the effectiveness of their activities.
As an example, a recent story with a migrant who hit a girl on a run because she was in a T-shirt and shorts. What will happen to him? Hooligan or inciting ethnic hatred?
The dominance of non-Russian-speaking students in schools is the same, these guys quickly agree among themselves and organize school gangs.
In general, either the authorities make a "soft landing", at least within the framework of the current legislation, or .. We will have local Barnauls 52-53, and in the conditions of current communications it is impossible to be silent

[Dante Alighieri]

We will have local Barnauls 52-53, and in the conditions of current communications it is impossible to be silent

Well, it should be noted that in the Union, too, it was not very successful to hide what happened. When did Vladimir Semenovich write his song? Years so in the 70s? Nearly twenty years after those events. I'm not talking about the geographical remoteness of Moscow and Altai. And this despite the fact that the locals have never really advertised those events. As a result, today only a few people remember those pogroms, mainly from old-timers and those who, like my family, have been living in the city for more than a generation. Just after returning from the War, in 1946 my grandfather entered the firefighter of the 3rd separate paramilitary fire brigade of the city of Barnaul, and he caught this time well, at least as a devout communist (joined the ranks of the CPSU (b) at the front), direct participation in them did not accept. In general, I think people were not very happy to remember everything that happened - nevertheless, there were no conscious maniacs and bloodsuckers among the inhabitants there, there were only people brought to the limit by the rudeness and arrogance of some elements. They dealt with these elements, in their own way. Well, it is clear that they went too far. But here the choice is simple: either we, or us ...

[Alevil]

The best thing is to burn down this place together with hard-working Russians too. You can consider this a call.

[Ivan Seversky]

I continue the story based on experience in N-sk.

In 2002, a law on citizenship was adopted, according to which the acquisition of citizenship took 6 years from the date of receipt of the TRP, which still had to be obtained. Quotas for RVP were determined by the subjects of the Russian Federation. And the number of those receiving citizenship has decreased by almost 10 times over the year.

In the 2000s, the liberal theory became stronger that Russia is dying out (although in fact the demographic transition is happening everywhere) and the attraction of migrants from the former republics can reverse this. Of course, they are no longer Russians, but their children will go to Russian schools and there their teachers will teach them how to love their homeland. This theory is promoted by the notorious Higher School of Economics.
And the citizenship law was broken. We have introduced many opportunities for simplified citizenship acquisition outside of quotas and in 1 year instead of 6. Currently, 99.9% of foreigners receive citizenship in a simplified manner. In addition to the desire to obtain a passport, they only need to be a citizen of one of the former republics and buy a certificate of knowledge of the language in one of the private centers. And that's all.
The lobbyist of such a system is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, because distribution of passports reporting + corruption proceeds and the Ministry of Labor, as this makes it possible to show beautiful demographic slides. Even foreigners with AIDS have not been deported from the Russian Federation since 2018.
In 2018, they introduced, and in 2022 they increased benefits for low-income families with children, if the official income per family member is less than 3,5 thousand rubles, payment of 14 thousand for a child under 17 years old.
After that, Tajik women from the mountain villages hurried to Russia for passports (Tajikistan has an agreement on dual citizenship with the Russian Federation). Old people are also being taken - to draw up Russian pensions.
The Uzbeks would also like to, but Merziyoev does not allow them to have a second citizenship. However, in order to receive child benefits, you may not have a passport, a temporary residence permit is enough, and a residence permit is enough to receive a pension.
It is no longer profitable for migrants (and Russians with many children) to work officially: they immediately lose the right to payment.

The only way to solve this issue is to cut the Gordian knot. cancel issued passports. Totally. Suitcase - railway station - Dushanbe.
Just according to databases: those who do not have sufficient official income, those who receive benefits as low-income people, those who did not register for military service on time. Those who have been prosecuted. Together with family members. According to my estimates, all four categories are about 95%.

[Non-fighter]

Plus those whose children do not know Russian. According to reports from the school.

[nikolaevskiy78]

In fact, you are proposing to send everyone who received such "passports" to one place. Well, I personally agree. It's just not very clear where to write the appeal. To the State Duma, Mishustin, the Great Pilot without a helm, Nabiullina, maybe Khusnullin right away?
The topic is correct, but until migrants are pressed from below, from the population, nothing will come of it. The local population should respond to any attempt of activity on the part of migrants (here, so as not to ...) by distributing sweets, jams and cookies in one place. There is no option but to give them cookies and jam. And so that they ate their fill of jam and ordered the children to eat it.

[ZloyCat]

"The topic is correct, but until migrants are pressed from below, from the population, nothing will come of it"
but for this there is the National Guard, which will protect them

[ZnachWest]

Absolutely right. The population has more tools in this matter. From reporting to the tax office about renting out apartments, inserting pins into keyholes, etc. (don’t buy from them, don’t communicate, answer the question “where?” answer “at the airport”), and to another more clear explanation about the undesirability of their stay. Squads are wonderful, but not enough. Other more radical organizations and methods are required.

[your1970]

Quote: Ivan Seversky

Together with family members. I estimate that all four categories are about 95%

- ok - sent.
Moscow, garbage truck drivers are ours from the regions, helpers are gasters. Tomorrow they were expelled. The day after tomorrow - there are no people willing to work in Moscow for 30, in principle, our shift workers will not accept such a salary. In another day, Moscow will be shit. In a week - will raise the utilities by 000% so that they pay at least 10. In another day, the drivers will leave with their 50 - what for is the responsibility if the helper is paid the same? In another day, they will increase the utilities to pay them.
After which Moscow will howl that “the communal apartment has been shamelessly torn up!!!!!!”
The same situation with everyone low paid specialties in Moscow - sellers in Magnit/Pyaterochka, helpers on construction sites, etc. Moreover, if a private owner can still make a little money from the profit, then the communal services will do this exclusively from utility bills

[Raccoon Raccoon]

I talked about this a year ago, but I was fiercely downvoted and accused of inflating.

[nznz]

I didn’t read all the comments. About the cups, what does that have to do with it?
my opinion.
1. The experience of other countries more scrupulous in the matter of admission to citizenship says that it is a great honor to become a citizen of such countries.
Seryozhenka Khrushchev, who lived with lectures in the United States for many years and was finally gifted with him, wept with happiness during an interview with a Soviet journalist. Herod brought the son of the former Secretary General to tighten the procedure for granting citizenship at times.
BUT...
citizenship, as in other countries, should give such preferences that, involuntarily, from happiness, the one who will be given will cry. (taxes are lower, etc., non-citizens are higher)
those. if you do not have the citizenship of our great country, you are semi-citizens. There are no benefits. minimum.
You can pay salaries to migrants, you can do something else, but explicitly or implicitly, our law enforcement and other structures should work in such a way that the very fact of citizenship would protect the Russian (Russian) at home. They are visiting.

2. tell me, who is ready to get up at 4 in the morning, so that by 6 in the morning they can lick the roads and sprinkle them with what they need?
Yeah... everyone loves to sleep.
This means that our peasants will not go to such work. who?
you can remember the wholesale of the USSR. the janitor was given an apartment. go for an apartment? And if the salary for a citizen is increased by 50% compared to non-citizens?
there is no lackey work. There is a lackey attitude towards it. this attitude needs to be eliminated. And then our peasants will run to be janitors. In fact, it is important how much you cost. And if you come from the outback and suddenly get a decent salary and an apartment in the MSC (there are many options for issuing it), then here it is a dream in your hands. Work, live and support a family, study. you won’t work out the apartment. But this is a chance. A lot can be done in this regard.
3. It is difficult to fill the labor shortage. This is not even a matter of 1 year. Blow out, give birth and raise... train. The period is understandable. Previously, not everyone could study. They were considered failures. Their road to vocational school. Today, vocational schools are the way to high RFPs. They are required, required.
Many do not need a diploma - another lawyer-economist - as a result, a sales manager ..
And everyone needs money. so direct these young guys to the professions that are in demand. The salary is there and will still grow. there is no one to pay them. or soon smart and highly motivated migrants will rule this area too
4.diaspora. at one time I was in charge of one department in medicine. There are a lot of programmers, I'm just a radio electronics engineer. But I was in charge and normally. We came to Moscow to certify our programs. I was surprised that the certification body consisted entirely of people of Azerbaijani incomprehensible nationality. it was a shock. they didn’t understand anything. but we covered the clearing, their Itr Russians listened to the defense of the programs and everyone was at the table. yes .. we arrived from the station by 8 in the morning.
We have a lot of such places. There have long been citizens sitting there who are not really citizens. in medicine. in our region, for example, the minister is Azerbaijani. before that, he was shown on TV as a pharmacist. I have not seen other great things. soon the entire department will be Jewish. And so it is here.
I would pay attention to these feeders. To get a newly made director of something, he must be a citizen for at least 10 years or more. And not just live.
5. I consider the surest step in filtering migrants into normal and criminal-illegal fraudulent service in the army. With the condition not to collect them in heaps in one Russian unit. Everyone remembers what this leads to. It is necessary to create brigades based on nationality. the duty of a citizen must be repaid. If you are healthy. If you are sick, then this should serve as a restriction for occupying a number of responsible professions and positions. Agree on a list of illnesses so that the inability to serve for health reasons automatically closes the way to love the power or other industries.
In general, you can if you want. And stop being ashamed of the fact that we want to live the way we want, spitting from a high mountain on the entire West and America. What they have today seems horror to a normal person. Pederasts of all countries, unite, but in America.

[kor1vet1974]

You know, in our outback, the streets are swept, their own, but their salary is several times less than that of gasters who sweep in different capitals. And gasters do not burst for such a salary as ours.

[kakvastam]

in general, if you want.

If a.
That is, we may want to, but the authorities do not need it. Even the fate of Hussein and Gaddafi did not teach them anything, everything is fine in their world, nothing threatens them personally. In their environment, the main thing is not to upset the boss, and everything else will somehow work itself out.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: nznz

And if you come from the outback and suddenly get a decent salary and an apartment in the MSC (there are many options for issuing it), then here it is a dream in your hands.

And what good is it if the machta is an apartment in the MSC, and not in the native outback, coupled with a decent salary?

[your1970]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: nznz

And if you come from the outback and suddenly get a decent salary and an apartment in the MSC (there are many options for issuing it), then here it is a dream in your hands.

And what good is it if the machta is an apartment in the MSC, and not in the native outback, coupled with a decent salary?

- and this is what I talked about more than once - “Limit” and “Let’s come in large numbers!”

[ZnachWest]

The West may not care, but what about internal enemies represented by the above-mentioned ministries?

[your1970]

Quote: nznz

Work, live and support your family, study. And the fact that a janitor means 5 years of study, or until you work out the apartment.

-salary of a janitor in the region of 30
Roughly 360 per year
10 years 3,6 million
20 years 7,2 million - the cost of the apartment is practically on the border of Moscow and Moscow Region
but you can’t eat at all, otherwise it will 30 years payments....
That is, you are offering work out apartment Xnumx years??
I’m embarrassed to ask - what’s the advantage compared to a mortgage and normal work?
Do you understand what the fierce nonsense offers????

[Mint Gingerbread]

This has already been discussed. Migration policy will not be changed. If you don't like it, you can leave Russia and become a citizen of another country, or get used to the idea of ​​a new state of affairs.

[nikanikolich]

And you are a minister or a deputy, purely for the sake of clarification, just like that, only this sweet couple or the president can approve without appeal, but apparently you are not one

[Mint Gingerbread]

It is enough to observe and draw conclusions based on the decisions made.

[Churchill]

Fedorov! In Transbaikalia, not everything is so simple, the beaten participants, or a participant, of the NWO have a criminal past and this past was the cause of the conflict.

[nikanikolich]

The diaspora is a hotbed of crime - organized crime groups with the ensuing consequences, this is clear even to a youngster. Are we going back to the 90s? Isn't it time to change the top head of the country's internal affairs, the "medium", and then the "little thing" who turned from a pro into an organized crime group with a crust.

[nikolaevskiy78]

Comrades, you will forgive my frankness, but many writers do not understand these Central Asian sausage cuts well.

A migrant who comes to Russia knows that he is "Kul". He really wants to just then return to his home to become "Bai" there. There is no other difference there, except cool and buy. No. at all. When a migrant comes here, he first understands that he is Kul without pants, but our state shows him that he can behave like a bai. This is the problem. This is especially true for kishlachnyh. The difference between kishlach and urban is enormous. And we have kishlachnyh fools who really can’t put 2 + 2 together, they are hired as therapists. These people are clinically stupid, it's such a hopeless stupidity that a cretin in a mental hospital seems more adequate. I understand that this is the misfortune of those people who live there, and they might and would like to be something more of a kishla fool with unshaven legs, but alas. You can’t even imagine the clinical stupidity of kishlach ladies. It's such a bottom that the bottom curls up in embarrassment.
You can't accept people like that. They are cretins and will drown society in cretinism. Someone explain this to Khusnullin and Sobyanin, although what am I talking about.

[Alexey RA]

The initiative of the citizens of Russia can only be praised, but the continuation of history can be fraught with global consequences. Whatever one may say, but the monopoly on violence remains the exclusive prerogative of the state - a deviation from this rule threatens to collapse. People's combatants can easily and naturally evolve into criminal structures with an ultranationalist basis.

People's squads in Russia are absolutely legal formations.
For 9 years now, the state has officially allowed citizens to participate in the protection of public order, in accordance with the Federal Law "On the participation of citizens in the protection of public order" dated April 02.04.2014, 44 N XNUMX-ФЗ.

1. People's squads are created on the initiative of citizens of the Russian Federation who have expressed a desire to participate in the protection of public order, in the form of a public organization with notification of local government bodies of the corresponding municipality (in the constituent entities of the Russian Federation - federal cities of Moscow, St. Petersburg and Sevastopol - state bodies authorities of the corresponding subject of the Russian Federation, unless the law of the corresponding subject of the Russian Federation establishes the need to notify the local self-government bodies of intracity municipalities), the territorial body of the federal executive body in the field of internal affairs.
(...)
3. People's squads can participate in the protection of public order only after they are included in the regional register.
(...)
5. People's squads solve the tasks they face in cooperation with state authorities of the constituent entity of the Russian Federation, local governments, internal affairs bodies (police) and other law enforcement agencies.

6. The main activities of the people's squads are:
1) assistance to internal affairs bodies (police) and other law enforcement agencies in the protection of public order;
2) participation in the prevention and suppression of offenses in the territory at the place of creation of the people's squad;
3) participation in the protection of public order in cases of emergency situations;
4) dissemination of legal knowledge, clarification of the norms of behavior in public places.

[ZloyCat]

"Russia does not need a repetition of the old American Ku Klux Klan at all."
why not? if the authorities do not care about the safety of their citizens, maybe citizens should take it into their own hands? I would go

[pettabyte]

For starters, maybe create something like “diasporas”.
Well, that’s how it was in the old days.
Council (of elders), community, elder, it doesn’t matter what you call it or what form you give it.
So the state-forming nation is amorphous as shit, that’s not good.

[Maks1995]

This has been written about for many years, many articles here, but ...
Officials happily report that they need to, they need to carry more ...

[Mishka78]

Quote: Max1995

This has been written about for many years.

Yes. In general, fuck what they write about and not only here. Including the fact that the people-power feedback has been completely lost. The authorities absolutely do not care about people, because their existence does not depend on them in any way. According to the constitution, the source of power is the people, who exercise control through elections. However, nothing has been regulated by elections for a long time, representatives of the Leningrad organized criminal group have seized power. And they will never give it up in their lives.

[baltiksi]

All your comments, like the text of the article, are conversations for the poor. Until the RUSSIANs themselves organize a rebuff, including forcing law enforcement officers to comply with the Law, nothing will happen. The government has not seen people behind ruble or dollar receipts for a long time. They are guarded in closed settlements by those 300 Russian Guards. A slave is different from a free one with the right to arms. You have the right to arms, you are free, not a slave. , like Putin with his struggle for everything good, against everything bad, a true liberal

[Alexey RA]

Quote: baltiksi

All your comments, like the text of the article, are conversations for the poor. Until the RUSSIANs themselves organize a rebuff, including forcing law enforcement officers to comply with the Law, nothing will happen.

So act. To organize a rebuff, they even adjusted the Federal Law to you - 44-FZ of 02.04.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX.

Quote: baltiksi

They are in closed settlements and are guarded by those 300 thousand of the National Guard.

Security in the WG - one hundred thousand for the whole country, for all objects. And the rest of the employees either control the circulation of weapons, or go to hot spots - as they did in those days when the VV, OMON and SOBR were part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[saygon66]

- That's about "Tajiks in the army" - this is a pearl!
- Send Tajiks to the Tajik army - let them hold back those who are supposed to, and return Russian soldiers to Russia ... there will be enough cases at home! The same applies to the Armenian and other battalions - forward, all to the defense of the historical Motherland.
- And then after all, from the punks armed with Chinese knives and fittings, we can fuck militants with war experience! And then it will be just right for the police to order tanks and combat helicopters ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: saygon66

Auger also applies to Armenian and other battalions - forward, all to the defense of the historical Motherland.

No, it won't fly. The level of Armenian patriotism during famous events was traditionally directly proportional to the distance from Armenia.

[Mikhail Shamanov]

I am a builder, a peaceful dialogue with an Uzbek came out. Russia, and in Ukraine and we are not well
- What didn't you like about it?
- uh, yes, yes.
As I understand it, they did not please the Russians.
After this dialogue, as if by chance, I talked with their entire team on the topic of SVO.
I won’t say that all of them would be ready to attack the Russians, but not one of the 35 spoke out, at least with understanding for actions, of the Russian Federation.
Nobody wants to leave Russia.

[Vik. K]

There are 2 Uzbeks in my department.
Normal guys. Rather, I will cut 3 Russians.
One "conqueror" of the Upper Lars. "I can't imagine: how did he get to us?
For good, he’s on a cannon shot, you can’t go to the factory
They whisper that he has a "hairy" paw ..
PS here, too, it is impossible to cut from the "shoulder".
The wife says, in the "head office" works: a radiologist from Tajikistan. Works like a horse and "charges" others.
Probably, in culture and family tradition: if her relatives were born during the Soviet Union and worked at all, then they raised her daughter.

[Ulan.1812]

Indeed, they reduced not only the army, but also the police and other power structures. Were reduced.

[pettabyte]

Yeah, now you can only see traffic police on holidays (or if there is an accident).
In my city, even the traffic police checkpoints at the entrance to the city have been removed...

[bk0010]

Whatever one may say, but the monopoly on violence remains the exclusive prerogative of the state - a deviation from this rule threatens to collapse.

Long gone. And as long as the migrant killers will run back to their place alive, there will be no monopoly.

Russia does not need a repetition of the old American Ku Klux Klan.

This is the only effective response to the diasporas. The Ministry of Internal Affairs is obviously not coping or bought.

[Vik. K]

Friends from the FSB said: 3/4 of the diaspora, acting on orders from the United States ..
Neutral to the Russians are those who eat from China's hands. And then.
They let down an unofficial: Moldovans, Kazakhs, Azerbaijanis. Let's just say: without them, sleep will be calmer

[Wayfarer_2]

I am convinced that it is impossible to send migrants to Ukraine to participate in the NWO. Because it is not only useless, but also dangerous. We remember two Tajiks who shot 13 people while still in the camp for training fighters. And it didn't serve as a lesson? Is there still a desire to give arms to migrants? And the certainty that they will not run away with him to our peaceful cities? Then you see a psychiatrist. There is only one way. Suitcase, station, kishlak.

[flyer]

Russian men to the front, and migrant workers to grub and their jobs? An "excellent" position, of course, for those who want as many victims as possible among the Russian people or simply want to leave Russia without Russians.

[Stinging Nettle]

Not only Tajiks have weapons in the army.
Allowing them to intimidate us and gain the right to sit in the rear is another nail in the coffin of the country.

[Jager]

A friend wrote twice to the presidential administration (not counting the ministries, etc.) regarding the reinstatement in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The person left the Ministry of Internal Affairs for personal reasons and now cannot get a job. He has the desire and zeal to work. But he is being footballed from one instance to another for a year without explanation.
The last response from the administration was in the style of “get out, we don’t need you here, but they will take you in new territories. Yeah, for 40 thousand salaries ... Although in the capital I already received 60.

[cash]

yes, everything is simple, the Russians are radicalizing, which is right, the fairy tales about the melting pot of Valera Tishkov do not work, that Russians will not be melted down into multinational scattered ones, the behavior of these animals will increasingly stimulate good Russian people to think and make radical decisions ... just like and the idea of ​​the Russian national state in this case will never die out, the war will end - the extermination of savages will begin

[Beck69]

I won’t say anything about Murino, here Kondapoga was class !!!

[Comrade Kim]

Meanwhile, ethnic subhumans are killing even the disabled:
https://t.me/mnogonazi/12608

fled to Turkey, having spent time in hospitable Dagestan.

[flyer]

What kind of protection of Russians outside Russia can we talk about if the state cannot protect Russians inside Russia?

[Evgeny_4]

Or maybe this state is not for the Russians?
And by last name there, at the top. There are very few Russians.

[TwilightElf]

Have you just realized this? This state is for everyone, just not for the Russians. there is no such formative ethnic group... any other has priority with their language over Russian.

[Akuzenka]

Yes, and by last name up there. There are very few Russians.

What are you talking about!!!! Power ensures the interests of the ruling class, and not the interests of some “nationality”.

[MIV040923]

Quote: Dante

Let me tell you a story from the recent past. Place of action - the city of Barnaul, period - 53-54 years. last century. It didn't take long for the war to break out. The city of Barnaul at that time was just an ordinary administrative center, where production was evacuated during the Great Patriotic War (for example, the Barnaul Machine Tool Plant appeared, with a cartridge shop, which later turned into a separate plant that still supplies the army and hunters with its products, a transport plant mechanical engineering, the Sibenergomash boiler plant, a melange plant and a car repair plant), the population, as well as the place where elements not loyal to the Soviet regime were deported and outright criminals were exiled. Among the forcibly relocated, the main backbone was Russian Germans, whom they began to exile to Siberia, including Altai, from the 30s, but there were also representatives of the peoples of the Caucasus, mainly Chechens.

Here it should be noted that the Altai Territory as a whole compares favorably in its climatic characteristics with other regions of Siberia. Here, for example, tomatoes ripen quietly in the open field, apples grow, and with proper care, grapes bear fruit. In general, the title "Barner of Siberia" Altai is quite deserved. As a result, it is much easier to survive here than in the same Tomsk region, where there is literally nothing of all of the above (because greenhouses at that time did not receive such mass distribution) and where, according to the recollection of my ancestors, the same representatives of the peoples of the Caucasus, who shied away cooperation with the same exiled Russian kulaks and Germans did not particularly take root. To be more precise, they died in the harsh Siberian realities by entire villages. No, some certainly survived, but for the most part their fate was not enviable. But the Russians and Germans, who quickly realized that the collective is strength, there is no place for individualism and strife in these realities, and therefore the collective farm should not be resisted - they survived. But, as I noted, the Tomsk region, in the Altai Territory, everything was a little different, and therefore the percentage of those who survived the difficult years of the war and exile, without particularly changing their behavioral patterns, was many times higher in Barnaul.

And now we have a city in which a lot of different people have accumulated, not only by ethnicity, but also by the level of education, occupation, culture, mentality. War veterans also returned here from the fields of the Great Patriotic War, many of whom would later replenish the composition of the working teams of the plants that appeared, replacing those specialists who would return from evacuation to their homes in Leningrad and Moscow, and some would enter the staff of internal affairs officers, which then included not only militia (after all, this word is dearer than the modern name), but also, for example, the fire department.

It is clear that such a social composition would inevitably lead to conflicts. And I'm not whitewashing anyone here and I'm not making excuses. Many of those who went through the Great Patriotic War did not have a meek disposition, most were ordinary people from the villages with a 6-grade education at best, but all of them, without exception, were those who went through Europe and personally turned their necks to fascism, all of them were The winners, and therefore quite deservedly considered themselves masters of their land. But as it turned out, this title was also claimed by those who, although they suffered repressions, for reasons beyond their control, still could not return home, and therefore tried to somehow settle in the place where they found themselves by the will of fate. In a good way, the latter should have sensibly assessed the situation, drawn the right conclusions and tempered their ambitions, but as I noted above, the same representatives of the Caucasian peoples who ended up in Altai had much less incentives for such a transformation of consciousness than their relatives, who were exiled to the north.

It is not known for certain what was the formal trigger of the conflict, or who initiated it, there are various legends. The fact remains that one far from perfect day a massive inter-ethnic conflict broke out in Barnaul, which inevitably included not only ordinary citizens, including Russian Germans and criminals, but also veterans of the Second World War. It is clear that the latter had many times more experience in capturing and holding settlements, and some also had service, premium weapons in their hands. The result of the conflict is predictable - the city was thoroughly "cleansed" of persons of Caucasian nationality. The police, of course, tried to stop the arbitrariness, but either they were not too zealous in this (half of the personnel were from the same front-line soldiers), or they prudently decided not to interfere. Later, however, someone was even convicted, but this was already much later and could not affect the outcome.

It is clear that there is nothing good in what happened, it is clear that many innocent people suffered among those who managed to assimilate into a new cultural environment for themselves, were generally law-abiding and did not pose any threat, living an ordinary, normal human life. But the crowd is ruthless and acts solely in their own interests. And her interests at that moment were reduced to one thing - to stop the threat from elements alien to her. Yes, in many respects this was a forced reaction, which became a response to the abuses of individuals, and to the lack of reaction from the authorities, who at that time simply had no time for this, because the list of issues that had to be addressed every day was simply colossal. Let me remind you that the war died down less than 10 years ago and the country was still recovering from what it had experienced. But all this, of course, does not justify what happened, although it generally reduced the degree of tension in society.

Later, Vladimir Semenovich Vysotsky will sing about these events like this:

Memories only disturb -
Always one thing: "Help! Guard! .."
The Germans from the Volga region are beating Chechens,
And the place of the battle is the city of Barnaul.

When it came almost to lynching,
I stood as a mountain for the highlanders, pulling someone's throat.
Both were not from here,
But they fought as if at home.

Of course, the great poet was a little cunning and the social composition of the conflict was very heterogeneous, but this is not important. The important thing is that if we do not want a repetition of these events, we must already draw the right conclusions now, and the inadmissibility of the escalation of the conflict, first of all, taking into account the interests of those who today defend our values ​​with weapons in their hands, so that they do not have a desire to use their skills on the streets of their native cities.

I repeat once again, the author of this commentary offends no one, does not call for illegal actions, opposes the incitement of national hatred and warns against such behavior, citing a purely negative example from the history of our country. Peace to all nations!

[Katya_Ivanova]

The problem can be solved very simply. Naturally. If every Russian woman gives birth to 10 children, then all these gasters will run away from here, dropping their slippers.

[RostislavPushkarevVladimirovich]

Katya_Ivanova (Katya Ivanova)

If every Russian woman gives birth to 10 children

I agree with your opinion and support it.
Let's set an example, you and I, and start a family. I write without sarcasm or banter, but seriously.
What is stopping you from taking this step towards starting a family?

[Stinging Nettle]

Why? In the carriage, there was a crowd of Russians against three Gasters, beating a man to death, and the Russians were only filming on their phones.
These are our laws.

[Katya_Ivanova]

Quote: Stinging_Nettle

Why? In the carriage, there was a crowd of Russians against three Gasters, beating a man to death, and the Russians were only filming on their phones.
These are our laws.

Nonsense!!! The law does not oblige anyone to take pictures on their phones.

[isv000]

Quote: Katya_Ivanova

The problem can be solved very simply. Naturally. If every Russian woman gives birth to 10 children, then all these gasters will run away from here, dropping their slippers.

How many children do you have? Need help with childbirth?

[TwilightElf]

will you support these 10 children?

[AVESSALOM]

Within the framework of the capitalist structure, and even with a bias towards neo-feudalism and a raw materials economy, the problem of migrants cannot be solved in principle. Only initiative from the bottom, awareness of the Russian people by force, as was the case in 1917.

[saygon66]

Not quite so... It’s not so easy to leave for Australia - only according to the lists of required specialists. And so it is in all self-respecting countries. It seems that only in a few countries in Latin America you can settle by application.

[kirarpol kirarpole]

Law. He is, he is for the chosen ones who have him.....
A lot of banter and not enough effectiveness from the existence of such a universal tool.
It seems to me alone that ethnic diasporas, according to the Law, are a group formed on a national basis. And suddenly a certain Nazi odor appeared.
There is no place in a society focused on compliance with norms and building its life according to the Law, such manifestations as ethnic crime in any of its manifestations. This is a direct indication of a “roof”, a corruption or lobbying scheme, structure, person. The essence is impunity and permissiveness. Therefore, the emotions are the same both from the “golden youth” and from the abu bandits.
IMHO
What should I do? : do what you have to...
What to do? : reduce corruption (automation of bureaucratic labor should lead to a reduction in the number and smaller ranks of the bureaucratic apparatus with an increase in the quality of services.) this effect is observed in the example of housing and communal services, the traffic police, the SFR....
Surely it should reach the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
Maybe then the trial will not be a procedure in which it is easier to pay off by paying what is unfair than to sue for a couple of years without achieving anything.
A beaten veteran will be sure that even after the fact of an appeal from relatives, there will be a reaction from the security forces, and not a seizure of control. Issues of nationalism will be devalued due to the Law being equal to all.

[Tim666]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Quote: Arkadich

former immigrants often work more reliably than natives.

How is their reliability expressed? Explain.

The fact is that for Vasya, drinking and not going to work is almost the norm, but for Dzhamshut it is rare.

[isv000]

Quote from Tim666

The fact is that for Vasya, drinking and not going to work is almost the norm, but for Dzhamshut it is rare.

For Dzhamshut, cheating on someone who is unfaithful is the norm. For this they will give him houris. But the fact that they behave as they want is because we allow them to do so. A little more and only the military operation “Liquidation - 2.0” will help...

[isv000]

In an interview, the victim’s mother quite rightly complains about the classification of the crime for which a criminal case has been opened - according to law enforcement officers, this only amounts to “hooliganism.”

Which side of the barricades are the police on?! Isn’t it time, for such “deeds,” to face the table and hand over your saber and knight, and into the line of fire?!! Although, I feel sorry for the horse...

[saygon66]

- Nice... But what about those “SOVIET Russians” who were kicked out of the national republics during their time?
- Only after their departure will it become possible to instill the notorious INTERNATIONALISM and “friendship of peoples.”

[Soveticos]

They live well in the republics of Central Asia. No one kicked them out during the collapse of the Union. They left because there was uncertainty and there was fear that the civil war in Tajikistan could spread to neighboring countries. Some of those who left, not only Russians, in order to arouse at least some sympathy for themselves, began to tell all sorts of tall tales about their situation, about oppression, inflating domestic conflicts to the point of almost persecution, etc. In Lenta, about half a month or a year ago, I read an article about the life and activities of Russians who moved to Russia from Central Asian countries and the fact that they are not accepted here as our own, because they are hard-working, hardly drink and their economy is better. The article is not small and very interesting. Read it sometime. Violations of the rights of Russian-speaking residents were observed in many national republics, but not in the southern ones. I lived here at that time and remember everything. Russian schools have not been closed, national schools have never stopped teaching the Russian language, all universities have departments of Russian language and literature, there is a lot of competition, departments opened jointly with Russia, in the workplace they are NOT REQUIRED to speak the language of the titular nation. It was like that then and nothing has changed now. So, read less of all sorts of narrow-minded fleachers and greyhound writers.

[saygon66]

- Where are these beautiful southern republics?! I'll go there immediately!!

[Soveticos]

Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, have not been to Turkmenistan. Come as a tourist. You will be pleasantly surprised.

[kirarpol kirarpole]

You can go to Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. The rest, too, strive for multi-vector freedoms. There is no desire to get a lot of regional patriotic impressions instead of relaxation.

[saygon66]

Thank you In one of these countries I was surprised back in 94... still enough.

[your1970]

Quote: Eugene_4

Quote: Arkadich

It's incomparable, automatically write everyone in the organized criminal group.
Migrants work here; create wealth or goods, pay taxes. It happens illegally, but the question is for the state and departments. There are many indigenous people who work illegally, but for some reason you have no questions for them.
I have migrants working in my organization, 15-20 percent, and as I am not bitter to say, they often work no better, but more reliable.
As for turning with both hands in favor, although frankly, as a native of law enforcement agencies, I don’t see simple solutions there.
That's why there are no calls from the leaders of the diasporas, because there are no calls from their republics. How will he officially urge to go to the NWO if there is criminal prosecution in some republics.

Migrants pay taxes... I beg you, don’t write this nonsense anymore.

If an employer hires a foreigner in 2023, he must take into account deflator coefficients when calculating the cost of a patent. The coefficient values ​​increased from 1,980 to 2,270 (Order of the Ministry of Economic Development dated October 19.10.2022, 573 No. 2023). Regions additionally set their own coefficients. In order not to make a mistake with how much a foreigner’s patent costs in 2023, the employer must multiply the fixed payment for the patent by deflator coefficients and additional regional coefficients. In 1200, the fixed cost of a patent is XNUMX rubles per month. The cost of a patent is calculated using the following formula: Advance payment = 1200,00 rub. (fixed advance payment) x 2,27 (deflator coefficient) x Regional coefficient
Source: https://www.glavbukh.ru/art/389006-patent-dlya-inostrannyh-grajdan-v-2023-godu-skolko-stoit-tablitsa-po-regionam-rossii
TASS
"In just 11 months of 2022, over 1,9 млн patents, of which almost 115 thousand were issued in January. Subsequently, until March, their number increased and reached 245 thousand, which became a record high figure. In April and May, the number of issued patents decreased and amounted to more than 165 thousand and 164 thousand, respectively. At the same time, an increase was observed again in the summer months: in June - more than 191 thousand, in July - almost 188 thousand, in August - almost 191 thousand. Since the fall, the trend has been declining again, in September 179 thousand work patents were issued for migrants, in October - 184 thousand. November was a record month when the Ministry of Internal Affairs issued the fewest patents - just over 132 thousand."

12*000 months*12 million=28,8bn -
28,8 billion * 2,27 deflator = 65,37 billion -what's this ALREADY paid at the base rate without coefficients

[kirarpol kirarpole]

From an article by Alexander Dybin.
Legion in troubled waters.
"... But this number includes not only labor migrants, and many could go through this procedure more than once. How many real people there are behind this number of 9 million is not entirely clear. According to the same statistics from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, for 7 months of this year more than 2 million patents have been issued for work. Various experts call the number 4 million people who are constantly in Russia for the purpose of work..."
However, I would like to note that I myself am not against migrant workers.
But the diaspora and the majority of those who have come in large numbers who do not pay taxes and treat the term patent not as an opportunity to pay taxes and work in peace, but as a way to make money on this too, are strictly against it.

[tank64rus]

“Harvard and HSE officials didn’t graduate to deal with questions at the freshman level.” The question contains the answer.

[Turbuta Dave]

The authorities are to blame. And no one else. Dolls in burqas are already walking on the streets, gangs of Asians, Armenians have filled everything. Go to the nearest market, there is a mafia behind the counters from Azerbaijan.

[acetophenone]

All this is crap. Why talk about something that will NEVER happen? None of the current authorities are GOING to solve YOUR problems. They decide their own. There are impotent people in the Kremlin - why talk to them about the Kama Sutra?

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

In our country, with one of the highest numbers of Ministry of Internal Affairs per capita in the world (this is without the RG), there is really no one to work “in the field”. But to shift papers and fight with likes and reposts, the competition is like in MGIMO. In the same Murino, per 100 people of the population (this is only official, but how many live without registration) there are only 000 precinct police officers. Police go on patrol from Vsevolozhsk and St. Petersburg - but these are half measures.

The RG is involved, but let's be honest, almost half of the patrol officers there are not Russians, but Russians who are very lenient towards their fellow tribesmen and fellow believers. I observed it myself: for some reason they blocked the street and put the guards in a cordon. The Russians come up and ask what’s going on and when they can get through. The guards (including Russians) answer: I don’t know, it’s not allowed, go your way while you’re safe. The Russians come up, speak their own language - the guards say to them: “Oh, salaam, brother!” and then they chat amicably in their own way, treat each other to cigarettes, laugh. There is a lot of protection from such an army. And even if they try, it will be clear that they are Russians, that the Russians are pimply conscripts and goons. Such bandits will not scare, but will make them laugh.

It’s still a miracle that with this approach, Murino did not turn into Brazilian favelas.

[pettabyte]

The well-being of the ECONOMY is production.
They are thinking about how to fiddle with the numbers in the report.
After all, awesome (photo) reports/presentations are our everything.
That’s why the actions are stupid, ala sell raw materials\collapse the ruble (like more income, yeah) and bring in barmaleys.

[Dmitriy13111985]

If Russian families had at least three children, as is necessary to preserve our nation, then these problems would not arise. But we die out, and they multiply. And who is to blame for this that we are dying out? Tajiks?
The values ​​of personal well-being and comfort, selfishness, which replaced the national idea, led to this situation. And in the near future it will only get worse - there are few young people born in the 90s and they don’t want to give birth.

[Ivan Seversky]

Quote: your1970

Quote: Ivan Seversky

Together with family members. I estimate that all four categories are about 95%

- ok - sent.
Moscow, garbage truck drivers are ours from the regions, helpers are gasters. Tomorrow they were expelled. The day after tomorrow - there are no people willing to work in Moscow for 30, in principle, our shift workers will not accept such a salary. In another day, Moscow will be shit. In a week - will raise the utilities by 000% so that they pay at least 10. In another day, the drivers will leave with their 50 - what for is the responsibility if the helper is paid the same? In another day, they will increase the utilities to pay them.
After which Moscow will howl that “the communal apartment has been shamelessly torn up!!!!!!”
The same situation with everyone low paid specialties in Moscow - sellers in Magnit/Pyaterochka, helpers on construction sites, etc. Moreover, if a private owner can still make a little money from the profit, then the communal services will do this exclusively from utility bills

I wrote that Tajik-Russians are not equal to Tajik guest workers. The first ones do not work officially (or are registered for the minimum wage) in order to receive child benefits as “poor”
Guest workers have not worked for 30 thousand in Moscow for 15 years. There are no such salaries. Guest workers receive the same amount as Russians and practically do not pay taxes: 13% personal income tax for officially employed migrants (2 out of 5), versus 13% personal income tax and 30% unified social tax for citizens of the Russian Federation.

[Igor1915]

My question is different, if this happens, then why does no one support the victims, are they scared/hid?

[pettabyte]

If you want without massacres and nightmares with their quads, there is such an option.
You just need to:
a) recognize the “diasporas” of organized crime groups with a nationalist bent.
b) if you want citizenship, serve
c) if you want to work here, but don’t have citizenship, still serve in a budget PMC (or a construction battalion building the Norilsk-Murmansk railway, in short, free labor)
d) for everyone, the Unified State Examination in language and history
e) migration control should be strict
f) screwed up - 1-3 times - on the way out (after serving time), and you will never enter again
G) oblige to pay a foreign worker 50% higher than the average market salary (in Japan, this is how they solved the problem of out-of-towners, no one will take such an asshole expensive, only if he is a mega-specialist).

[Tim666]

Quote from Vik. K

Friends from the FSB said: 3/4 of the diaspora, acting on orders from the United States ..
Neutral to the Russians are those who eat from China's hands. And then.
They let down an unofficial: Moldovans, Kazakhs, Azerbaijanis. Let's just say: without them, sleep will be calmer

Didn’t your acquaintances say that Biden is pissing in Russian entrances?

[TwilightElf]

what kind of growth of the state’s economy can we talk about) the chumps are imported illegally, the same with taxes and other things... what good is the economy except for the pockets of those for whom they are “imported and work”?

[the Urals]

It’s just that from childhood they are trained on the principle that Russia is the enemy and the Russians are the occupiers... Which doesn’t stop them from coming to us to work, in 10 years they will, like the Ukrainians, believe that they are the first in the whole world and that they are the ones they built everything, and we stole it all from them

[Sebenza]

the authorities are afraid to touch them - like, politically incorrect. And we don’t feel sorry for our own people, they will tolerate them!
Russia does not need a repetition of the old American Ku Klux Klan.
I will express sedition - but, unfortunately, it is necessary. Because the “state-formers” were lowered below the plinth with the full approval of the authorities.
I am not calling for anything. It just hurt.

[Turtle]

What to do? If the crime is related to the “dissatisfaction with the military past” of the victim - give only the maximum, and if there are differences in citizenship or at least nationality (it doesn’t matter if a Tajik beat a Jew, a Russian beat an Azerbaijani, or a Tatar Mongol) - give the triple maximum, without the right to amnesty, deportation, etc., do not allow Foreign Ministry employees to visit the departing persons and regard any attempt to appeal as a newly discovered aggravating circumstance, well. and add a couple or three years so that they don’t vibrate there.

Ethnically alien elements and business ferrets have created a literal and figurative bedbug in Russia, and all this has been going on for three or four decades under the watchful snoring of responsible representatives of all branches of government.

[buslaif]

Along with chronic hatred of everything Russian, part of the migrant community also shows rejection of Russia’s actions in Ukraine. All those involved in this automatically become “aggressors” in the eyes of people from neighboring countries.
Nevertheless, at the initiative of the State Duma Committee on Defense, a law on the mobilization of yesterday’s migrants is being pushed through. Thus, they are trying to solve one of the key problems - the shortage of young healthy men who can be sent to the trenches. Hiding behind, like a “fig leaf,” the need not only to win at the front, but also not to ruin the economy, our state cannot seem to afford to carry out a mass mobilization of the indigenous citizens of Russia. Therefore, it is proposed to replenish the ranks of those fighting at the front with people who have neither the desire nor the degree of moral and professional readiness to defend their new homeland. They came to us not to fight for the interests of the country and people, but to earn money. The case of the shooting of yesterday’s migrants at the training ground by machine gun crews of mobilized and volunteers apparently does not teach our “stripes” anything, just as the involvement of PMC fighters in the war under the leadership of the valiant “director” of these “musicians” who organized an armed rebellion did not teach us anything. According to general information, in just one day of the Wagner mutiny, six helicopters and one plane crashed, and military personnel were killed. But this seemed not enough, it is necessary to lay another “mine” under the foundations of our state and its Armed Forces, by training and putting weapons in the hands of random people with unclear goals and objectives, who have nothing in common with the citizens of Russia, who do not share our mentality, morals and customs . History teaches that it teaches nothing to fools in power.

[Sergei N 58912062]

buslaif, comparing migrants with the Wagner PMC is the same as comparing 23 21 11 with a finger.

[Akuzenka]

The reasons seem to be quite pragmatic - cheap labor ensures economic growth of the state.

It's not even funny, Evgeniy. Cheap labor provides profits for capitalists and tax evasion, because the majority work illegally, oppressing the local population. And of course it fuels everyday nationalism and increased impunity for ANY crime. The diaspora will pay for the migrant workers’ excuse from punishment; no one will pay for the locals. This will remain so as long as it is profitable for the capitalists. Power merely ensures the interests of the ruling class.