unknown war. White Bohemian rebellion in old and modern photographs

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unknown war. White Bohemian rebellion in old and modern photographs
The building of the Penza-Z station today. It was rebuilt many times, but overall retained its ancient appearance.


“...All railway councils are obliged, under pain of grave liability, to disarm the Czechoslovakians. Every Czechoslovak found armed on the railway lines should be shot on the spot; every train containing at least one armed person must be unloaded from the wagons and imprisoned in a prisoner of war camp. Local military commissariats undertake to immediately carry out this order; any delay will be tantamount to treason and will bring down severe punishment on the perpetrators. At the same time, I am sending reliable forces to the rear of the Czechoslovak echelons, tasked with teaching those who disobey a lesson. With honest Czechoslovaks who will surrender weapon and submit to Soviet power, act like brothers and provide them with all possible support. All railway workers are informed that not a single carriage carrying Czechoslovaks should move east..."
People's Commissar for Military Affairs L. Trotsky.
— Quoted from the book. Parfenov "Civil War in Siberia". Page 25-26.

Unknown Wars. Today we continue the topic of the Civil War in Russia, based on publications in the Soviet newspaper Izvestia of that time. The time has passed to talk about how this newspaper covered the events of the White Bohemian uprising, but then the idea arose that before turning to the yellowed pages of this newspaper, it makes sense to turn on a kind of “time machine” and look at the places of these tragic events, as they say , with my own eyes.



The first such place where we will go will be the Penza-3 station. It was there that the trains of the Czechoslovak corps were concentrated in May 1918, and there they were supposed to hand over weapons and ammunition. For Penza at that time it was the Ural Station, and its role then played a much greater role than today.


This is how it looked before the revolution... View from the railroad tracks


View of the Uralsky railway station from the side of the station square


Here, on the platform, this monument to the Czechoslovak soldiers who died in those battles has already been erected in our time. Why was it installed? Most likely, the reason was the Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Czech Republic on the mutual maintenance of war graves, signed on April 15, 1999. But if our burials in the Czech Republic are, so to speak, obvious. Then where are the burials in Penza? This is the cenotaph they installed at the station. The names of the fallen are listed on its walls, and it now falls under the scope of this agreement


Stone house opposite the station. In 1918, he was already standing here and witnessed those events. Turn left from it, and you find yourself on the bank of the Sura River. You go right - there will be a long street along its bank, which will end with a bridge over the river. Interestingly, there has always been a store on the ground floor!


We turn left - and right in front of us is Sands Island and the pontoon bridge leading there. If everything in 1918 had been the same as it is now, it would have been enough to open this bridge to block the attackers’ path to the city center. But the Sura was shallow at that time, there was no retaining dam on its bed, and this place was flooded only during floods, and already in May it was quite possible to walk here


Here is the place at that time!


The same place from a slightly different angle.


Surprisingly, then everything here was very bare, not a tree, not a bush. There is a photo where the Czechs dug rifle cells on the right bank ... A solid “forest”, on the right, on the left. Photo from the middle of the pontoon bridge


But now, not far away, this wide highway bridge has been thrown across the Sura. If it were during the rebellion, it would be very easy to get right into the very center of the city through it


В stories mutiny island Sands played a very important role. This is what it looks like from a bird's eye view. And it is connected to the city center with just one bridge. I have long been proposing to demolish all the old (and at the same time new) houses on it and arrange a chic Disneyland here. But, apparently, Penza has not yet matured, and it will take a lot of money for this large-scale construction. The pontoon bridge is circled, and the Penza-3 station building is underlined in red...


But on the Sands, many houses that are the same age as those events have been preserved! For example, this house already stood here then, and... its windows saw legionnaires with rifles running past it!


But this house, of course, was not here then. This is already a building of our era. But what if he was there then? Then we could put three machine guns on it, and not a single enemy would pass by it!


Another veteran of very respectable age. I interviewed the owners and found out that it was built back in 1880, that is, even before my house on Aleksandrovskaya Street, that is, Proletarskaya Street!


Green bank of the Sura river


The stone place leading to Sands Island is not so easy to see today...


Then the bridge from Peski was burned down. But that didn’t stop the White Czechs!


Another old house on the way to the city center. Now it is surrounded on all sides by modern houses under construction overlooking the river.


Interestingly, even a small amphitheater is provided on the embankment. If all this had been here during the Soviet era, I would certainly have had to give a lecture here about the mysteries of history or American imperialism - a threat to peace and progress!


This is a modern embankment, and here, in the distance, buildings turn white, again the same age as those events, and a bridge is visible that leads from the district to the center. It is clear that then it was not stone, but wooden. But the railway bridge following it has not changed, not a bit!


In general, the Czechs crossed the Sura and moved up Moskovskaya Street to Cathedral Square. It is interesting that both of these houses, on the left and on the right, are still standing. The right one is occupied by modern security officers and a barbecue, in which I have not been ... exactly 50 years! And on the left in a two-story house, as far as I can remember, there was a bunch of various shops. They are still there!


Moskovskaya Street is almost at the very top. It's amazing how little she has changed. The most noticeable ones are... trees! The street became green and shady. And why, I wonder, weren’t they imprisoned then? And here’s another thing - all these wires are gone


Previously, it was all paved with stone blocks polished to a shine, because of which the Czech armored car could not even drive up the mountain at first, and the soldiers had to push it!


Today it is again paved with paving stones, but only it is still rough, and the street itself has become pedestrian


We climbed to the very top, and there today stands this cathedral. It is larger than what was here before. And the Bell Tower is located differently. And trees today would prevent armored cars from shooting at the building of the Soviet of Deputies...


But even then the shops here were absolutely modern! Surprising even!

Well, about the events of that time, or rather, about how these events were described in the press in 1918, will be told next time.

PS


By the way, the first book of my trilogy “Three from Ensk” is dedicated to the events of that distant time, including the rebellion of the White Czechs, and the battles in Penza and in various other places, which was previously published only in Germany, and here in Russia and Singapore only only in electronic form. However, not everyone likes this form of publication, and reading a book while sitting in front of a computer screen is not entirely convenient. Therefore, many people asked me, is it possible to publish these books, as well as several of my other novels? Well, if not publish them, then at least print them privately, so that anyone who wants them can purchase them in printed form. And now this wish has come true! It was possible to print “Three...” and other books, both in paperback and hardcover. So now all these books can be ordered from the author, and with his autograph as a good memory.


In the first book of the novel “Three from Ensk. The battle group "Iron Horse" takes place in 1918-1922. on the territory of Russia in the midst of the Civil War, and its heroes - two boys and one girl - take an active part in it on the side of the White Guard. In the second book, “Three from Ensk and Pareto’s Law,” they end up in the United States, go to study at Columbia University with a degree in public relations, fight bootleggers, help residents of one of the Hoovervilles, and in 1936 go to Spain to fight on the side ... Franco! In the third part of the novel “Emerald Palms, Golden Sand,” a distant descendant of one of the novel’s heroes is already trying to survive in the dashing 90s. But... he is forced to flee to Colombia, where he starts all over again and where he also has a very hard time. As a result, all the plot lines of the novel converge, but the end remains open, because who can tell us whether all our cherished plans will come true or not?! In general, it would be proposed, and then whoever wants what. Contact via PM on the website.

To be continued ...
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  1. +7
    8 September 2023 05: 21
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!

    Life is changing. More and more photos. Even as an introduction.
    1. +17
      8 September 2023 06: 20
      Life is changing. More and more photos.

      It changes, it changes, but the article is about the White Czechs in Penza, and they are just not in the photo. We will correct the situation
      White Czech rebellion on old photos from Penza








      1. +11
        8 September 2023 06: 23
        White Czech rebellion on old photos from Penza (continued - since only five photos can be inserted in a comment)










        I wonder why the author did not insert them into the article. However, he is more visible.
        Good morning everyone.
        1. +4
          8 September 2023 07: 00
          Quote: Richard

          I'm surprised why the author didn't include them in the article.

          They were in the mentioned 2016 article.
      2. +5
        8 September 2023 06: 27
        Thank you, Dmitry!

        Our country has not seen any kind of rebellion.
        1. +14
          8 September 2023 06: 43
          Here in Penza, on the platform, this monument to the Czechoslovak soldiers who died in those battles has already been erected in our time


          However, apparently not everyone in Penza likes it. And honestly, it's nice


          1. +4
            8 September 2023 06: 57
            During this time, the government in our country has changed too much. And in every region there is pain and destruction.
          2. +4
            8 September 2023 07: 02
            What an interesting photo you found. Haven't heard of this. But I live very far from Penza-3, so I didn’t see this.
          3. +16
            8 September 2023 07: 03
            This is a monument that causes a lot of misunderstanding and ambiguous thoughts and feelings.
            photo - State Archive of the Penza Region Residents of Penza killed by Czechoslovak legionnaires on May 28-29, 1918

            The memory of the victims of May 28-29, 1918 is immortalized in the same Penza in the monument to the Fighters of the Revolution on Sovetskaya Square, where the mass grave of 80 victims is located

            And to those who bring flowers to the monument to the White Czechs in Penza. There are also such

            It's worth thinking about this
            photo - Epa/Martin Diviser/TASS Demolition of the monument to Marshal Konev in Prague
            1. +14
              8 September 2023 09: 31
              Quote: Richard
              And to those who bring flowers to the monument to the White Czechs in Penza. There are also such

              The monument to the White Czechs was opened in Penza in 2015 very quietly, completely unnoticed, despite an impressive delegation of 40 people. from the Czech Republic. There were no reports in newspapers and other media, and the Author Vyacheslav Shpakovsky himself found out about this monument here on the VO website, which he honestly admitted then. Until now, 8 years later, many Penza residents do not know about this monument at all, some have heard something, but they are generally indifferent, although local communists occasionally advocate its demolition, and the left front will douse it with black paint or impose feces. Flowers at the monument in the photo that you posted, and even a basket that was either blown down by the wind, or someone kicked it while passing by, well, don’t tell my slippers, they brought penzyaks to some Czechs, but don’t care about this monument.

              There are 67 names on the list of the Penza "memorial" to the "fallen" Czechoslovak legionnaires. Of these, 27 people are listed as missing. That is, there is simply no reliable data on their death. And the most interesting thing is that most of these missing people - 20 out of 27 people did not even disappear in Penza. And in Rtishchevo and in Serdobsk Of these, 18 people went missing on the same day - May 28 in Rtishchevo. Which suggests that they simply deserted and went over to the side of the Soviets. Two more people, according to official figures, were taken prisoner.
              Lieutenant Jaroslav Černy, the most senior in rank on the list. To call him a “hero” and even more so a “fallen” language does not turn in any way, since the lieutenant corny ... shot himself.
              there are even details of one of these deaths: Private Antonin Vitek died ... after an unsuccessful fall. 1 person was hit by a train (apparently "fell" at the hands of an "enemy" driver).
              One died in an accident, the second was shot by his colleagues, the third decided to go fishing with a grenade (this is really a “heroic” death)!
              https://1pnz.ru/city_online/obshchestvo/news/srazhenie_za_pamyat_belocheham_pora_domoy/
              1. +7
                8 September 2023 10: 25
                Amazingly interesting comment! Thank you Anatoly!
                1. 0
                  16 September 2023 15: 02
                  = her most active participation is on the side of the White Guard. =
                  Yes, who would doubt it.
            2. +6
              8 September 2023 10: 33
              Quote: Richard
              This monument, which causes a lot of misunderstanding and ambiguous thoughts and feelings

              It would be interesting to know who initiated the installation of this monument to the White Czechs? After all, there must be some kind of initiative. And it would be nice to publish an article about him, with a full indication of his position and full name...
              1. +3
                8 September 2023 12: 07
                Quote: Luminman
                And it would be nice to publish an article about him, with a full indication of his position and full name...

                Back in 2016, after the publication of the first article on this topic, in the comments to which I learned about this monument, I wanted to know about it... and did not find out. Somehow, everyone and no one in particular...was responsible for this. So there wasn’t enough for the article.
          4. +2
            9 September 2023 10: 48
            Quote: Richard
            Here in Penza, on the platform, this monument to the Czechoslovak soldiers who died in those battles has already been erected in our time

            I fully admit that there are agreements with different countries on the location of these misunderstandings on our territory and we cannot demolish them for political reasons. But it is quite possible to surround (well, or make it on the way) these monuments with ours, which would show the atrocities of the same Poles, Czechs and others who trampled under our feet. Everything would look completely different.
    2. +5
      8 September 2023 06: 59
      Quote from Korsar4
      More and more photos.

      An article has already been written and is waiting to be published, with only one photo.
      1. +5
        8 September 2023 07: 10
        The main advantage of the articles is that they are published regularly.

        Pictures same Word are beginning to replace.
        1. +9
          8 September 2023 07: 32
          Pictures same Word are beginning to replace.

          So this is not bad - when the pictures are in addition to the author's text. For example, I looked at the photos of old Penza with great pleasure. There is some inexplicable attraction in pre-revolutionary photos. Yes, and in the pictures of the 50-60s, too. All modern cities are almost the same. And in those periods, everyone is wonderful in their own way. I will be very glad to the author's illustrated articles about my cities of that time. Such articles in this section is the place. A story that is changing right before our eyes.
          1. +6
            8 September 2023 07: 41
            Agree. As well as photographs of people.
            Like Galsworthy: "A home with dignity."
          2. +2
            8 September 2023 08: 05
            Quote: Richard
            There is some inexplicable attraction in pre-revolutionary photos.

            ++++++++++++++++++++++++
          3. 0
            9 September 2023 20: 54
            Quote: Richard
            There is some inexplicable attraction in pre-revolutionary photos.
            -and all the cities then were without trees. Why, it’s not clear, okay, we have sand, but in Penza there is already decent land, but there are no trees.
    3. +3
      8 September 2023 08: 26
      More and more photos. Even as an introduction.

      It's true. Except for the epigraph and postscript, then for 12 lines of the text of the "article" - 26 photographs - insta will be envious.
  2. +1
    8 September 2023 07: 17
    Good day to all! hi

    A very interesting article. I read it with great pleasure! good Vyacheslav Olegovich, thank you very much, and I can ask: will there be more articles on the Middle Ages?
    1. +3
      8 September 2023 07: 25
      Quote from Kojote21
      and there will be more articles on the Middle Ages?

      Yes, of course they will. They just require a lot more work.
      1. +1
        8 September 2023 07: 45
        Quote: kalibr
        Quote from Kojote21
        and there will be more articles on the Middle Ages?

        Yes, of course they will. They just require a lot more work.

        I see. Thanks. hi
  3. +3
    8 September 2023 07: 27
    It is a pity that Yaroslav Hasek was not there!
    Something to remember...
    1. +6
      8 September 2023 08: 06
      After the conclusion of the Brest peace between Russia and Germany and the evacuation of the Czech corps to Europe through Vladivostok, Hasek breaks with the legion and goes to Moscow. There he joins the Communist Party and forms a combat detachment of Czechs and Serbs. By the end of May 1918 The Czech-Serb Hasek detachment consisted of 120 fighters who took an active part in the battles with the White Czechs and successfully suppressed the anarchist rebellion in Samara. In July 1918, that is, just three months after the events in Samara, the field court of the Czechoslovak Legion issued an arrest warrant for Hasek as "a traitor and murderer of the Czech people." Throughout the civil war, Gashek fought in various command and political positions in the Red Army.
      a photo Yaroslav Gashek in the uniform of a political worker of the 5th Red Army, 1920

      In November 1920, a political crisis broke out in Czechoslovakia, a general strike began, and in Kladno the workers proclaimed a "Soviet Republic". Czech communists in Russia were ordered to go home to support the local communist movement. Hasek returned to Prague. The writer himself writes with humor:
      Returning to my homeland, I was surprised to learn that I had been hanged three times by the legionnaires, shot twice by the White Guards, and once quartered by the savage Kyrgyz rebels near Lake Kale-Isykh. Finally, I was finally stabbed to death in a wild fight with drunken sailors in an Odessa tavern. (With)
  4. +3
    8 September 2023 08: 06
    and the fallen British and Japanese in the intervention by chance in the Kremlin do not want to erect a monument
    1. +2
      8 September 2023 08: 16
      Quote: Ryaruav
      and the fallen British and Japanese in the intervention by chance in the Kremlin do not want to erect a monument

      This is not a question for me.
    2. +3
      8 September 2023 09: 26
      [B]
      and the fallen British and Japanese in the intervention by chance in the Kremlin do not want to erect a monument [
      / B]
      There is such. The monument is located on Petrovsko-Zavodskaya Street, in the square of the Chita State University. Installed on the grave of Japanese soldiers who died during the civil war in Transbaikalia. It is a historical monument. After the signing of the Gongot Agreement in July 1920, Japanese soldiers who were killed and died of wounds were buried in a cemetery in Chita. On July 20, 1920, a pyramidal four-sided obelisk was installed on the grave on a two-stage pedestal. The obelisk is made of brick, plastered and whitewashed. The Gongotsky agreement was finalized on July 15, 1920 between the delegation of the Far Eastern Republic (FER was not part of the RSFSR at that time) headed by Alexander Krasnoshchekov and Heinrich Eikhe and the commander of the Japanese expeditionary force Yui Mitsue.
  5. +6
    8 September 2023 08: 08
    Interesting historical note. But actually about the rebellion, nothing at all - this is a flaw.
    This is the building of our era. But what if he was then? Then put three machine guns on it, and not a single enemy would pass by it!
    Machine guns are demolished with several shots from a three-inch gun, however, competent gunners are needed for this. There were a lot of them after WWI.
    1. +4
      8 September 2023 08: 13
      Quote: Aviator_
      But actually about the rebellion, nothing at all - this is a flaw.

      You can't cram everything into one piece. It's not rubber. At the end it was written quite BIG: TO BE CONTINUED...
    2. +3
      8 September 2023 08: 15
      Only if this house could be seen from the station...
      1. +3
        8 September 2023 17: 05
        Only if this house could be seen from the station...
        There is a method of shooting from a closed position with fire adjustment. Well, the spotter, of course, needs to see the target; he does not sit next to the gun.
        1. +2
          8 September 2023 20: 34
          Quote: Aviator_
          does not sit with the gun.

          The point here is that the Czechs had only one 76,2-mm short-barreled gun in the turret of the Garford-Putilov armored car, and it was inconvenient to shoot from it. In real life, they fired only 3 shots into the city, which hit somewhere there.
  6. +7
    8 September 2023 08: 36
    The first such place where we will go will be the Penza-3 station.




    Water tower at Penza-3 station. It has been preserved almost in its original form from the moment of construction - 1896. She was a true witness to the events described.
    1. +3
      8 September 2023 08: 53
      I'm interested in the date of this photo. Judging by the parked cars - the end of the 90s.
    2. +4
      8 September 2023 09: 08
      By the way, what remains in many cities are water towers. Our "Summer" theater burned down in the 90s of the last century. Now as a symbol of the city - a water tower.

      Except for the St. Nicholas Church.
    3. +4
      8 September 2023 10: 27
      You are right and it would be necessary to remove it. But it is located quite far from the station, and I already had to go around the entire central part of Penza. I got lazy, to be honest...
      1. +7
        8 September 2023 13: 40
        By the way, it is quite an interesting not only architectural, but also engineering object.



        In general, the topic of the history of railway transport is an unplowed field and a real opportunity to introduce a fresh stream of creativity. Otherwise, the knights and the Middle Ages have already been completely worn out, but one comrade had some attempts about steam locomotives, but they were very poor.
        1. +5
          8 September 2023 13: 51
          In general, the topic of the history of railway transport is an unplowed field and a real opportunity to introduce a fresh stream of creativity.
          If anyone decides, I can provide you with original photographs from the railway museum in St. Petersburg.
          1. +3
            8 September 2023 14: 04
            If anyone decides, I can provide you with original photographs from the railway museum in St. Petersburg.

            In St. Petersburg, in relation to the topic, there are many objects that deserve attention and are in considerable desolation.

            1. +4
              8 September 2023 15: 03
              Agree. A striking example is the Nobel mansion on Pirogovskaya embankment.
            2. +3
              8 September 2023 15: 26
              Water towers in St. Petersburg were more fortunate. Even when the surrounding areas are developed, they try to preserve and restore them. Former water tower in Lakhta.
              1. +5
                8 September 2023 16: 44
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                Former water tower in Lakhta.

                In Zelenogradsk in the Kaliningrad region, a water tower was turned into a hotel and cat museum!
                1. +4
                  8 September 2023 17: 30
                  In Zelenogradsk in the Kaliningrad region, a water tower was turned into a hotel and cat museum!


                  In addition to the cat museum, there is also a skeleton museum. A kind of cultural contrast. I looked at the cats, relaxed - and then...
                  To not forget
                  that in this world you are still on the way, so look around your destination




                  In this regard, I much prefer the idea of ​​the reconstructors of the water tower of the Main Waterworks in St. Petersburg. A water museum was organized there. True, the appearance was slightly spoiled by the extension, but in any case it’s better than skeletons.



                  1. +3
                    8 September 2023 17: 54
                    True, the extension spoiled the view slightly,
                    This is the lesser evil. 20 years ago there wasn’t even an embankment there. There was a steep slope towards the Neva, overgrown with weeds, which belonged to Vodokanal. There was no direct passage along the left bank from the Alexander Nevsky Bridge to the Liteiny Bridge
                    1. +3
                      8 September 2023 18: 13
                      By the way, if I’m not mistaken, the water tower in Lakhta supplied the Stenbock-Fermor estate with water. Essen-Stenbock-Fermor Yakov Ivanovich not only built “Passage”, but also the first commercial water supply system in St. Petersburg.
                      1. +4
                        8 September 2023 18: 23
                        You intrigued me, but I think the tower I cited in Lakhta was built at a later date... Although, I’ll try to go into more detail...
                      2. +4
                        8 September 2023 18: 30
                        The tower that has survived today is actually a later construction - 1902. And Essen-Stenbock-Fermor began his water supply project for the Liteiny and Moscow parts in 1846; it’s unlikely that anything remains from those times. Even the grave of Fermor himself is lost.
                      3. +3
                        8 September 2023 18: 45
                        hardly anything remains from those times
                        Why not? Yakov Ivanovich did not build this house, but lived in it for some time.

                        Corner of Tchaikovsky and Chernyshevsky streets.
                        By the way, I wondered if Yakov Ivanovich was a relative of the “mine-laying master”?
                      4. +4
                        8 September 2023 19: 11
                        Why not? Yakov Ivanovich did not build this house, but lived in it for some time.

                        I was referring to his 1846 commercial water supply. Moreover, the enterprise went bankrupt in just two years.
                        By the way, I wondered if Yakov Ivanovich was a relative of the “mine-laying master”?

                        Is. Count Yakov Ivanovich Stenbock-Fermor was married to the only daughter of Peter Kirillovich Essen, Alexandra. Since the only son of Essen, being a colonel, died of wounds while participating in the war with the Turks of 1828 - 1829, the Highest commanded Count Yakov Ivanovich Stenbock-Fermor to take the name of his father-in-law and be called Essen-Stenbock-Fermor.
                      5. +4
                        8 September 2023 18: 45


                        In the background is the Voskresensky floating bridge. Somewhere near it on the banks of the Neva there was a steam pumping station. As a native, try to navigate the area and decide whether the buildings of the mid-XNUMXth century remain there.
                      6. +1
                        8 September 2023 19: 18
                        I am an aborigine of the Niva River, not the Neva, I am one of those who “came in large numbers”, like the vast majority of those living here.
                        As for the stone building of the current Sinop embankment in the middle of the 1834th century, will the courtyard of the Valaam Monastery (built in XNUMX, if I’m not mistaken) suit?
                      7. +2
                        8 September 2023 19: 33
                        courtyard of the Valaam monastery

                        Is it on the left or right bank?
                      8. +2
                        8 September 2023 19: 41
                        Is it on the left or right bank?
                        On the left, corner of Sinopskaya embankment and Bakunin street. On the right bank at that time, wolves were still howling and bears were hanging around.
                      9. +2
                        8 September 2023 19: 55
                        It is doubtful, of course, that the water pump was in the monastery courtyard. Somewhere on the shore.
                        Time is all-powerful: sometimes a few years make a difference
                        The name and appearance of things, their nature and fate.
                      10. +2
                        8 September 2023 20: 10
                        You asked about stone buildings on the left bank of the Neva, the middle of the XNUMXth century, along the course approximately from the current Moscow Hotel to the Big House. He said exactly what he knew.
                      11. +2
                        8 September 2023 20: 14
                        "When we look around, we see only ruins"
                        The view, of course, is very barbaric, but true" (c)
              2. +2
                8 September 2023 17: 10
                Water towers in St. Petersburg were luckier.

                But not everyone.

                1. +2
                  8 September 2023 17: 36
                  Of course, not everyone. There are buildings in absolutely disrepair. In the photograph that I provided, the condition of the extension to the tower did not stand up to criticism. It was torn down and rebuilt.
              3. +4
                8 September 2023 17: 20
                And here is the Orenburg water tower, model 1927
          2. +3
            8 September 2023 17: 06
            photographs from the railway museum in St. Petersburg.
            It’s a wonderful museum, although I’ve been there for a long time.
            1. +4
              8 September 2023 17: 22
              Hello Sergey!
              We are talking about different museums, I’m talking about the one that opened a few years ago, next to the Baltic Station
              1. +2
                8 September 2023 22: 25
                We're talking about different museums, I'm talking about the one that opened a few years ago
                Hello, Anton. Indeed, I have not been to the new one. And he visited in the early 80s.
        2. +3
          8 September 2023 16: 47
          Quote from Frettaskyrandi
          Otherwise, the knights and the Middle Ages have already been worn down to holes

          Well, now that one book has been published and the second is waiting in line at AST, I don’t have to deal with this topic. But you read - people ask, they want... You just need to find less well-worn topics.
        3. 0
          9 September 2023 20: 58
          Quote from Frettaskyrandi
          By the way, it is quite an interesting not only architectural, but also engineering object.

          They are typical throughout the Ryazan-Ural railway (including here in the Saratov region). There are differences, but they are barely noticeable. It’s a pity that there are practically no intact and usable ones left....
  7. +5
    8 September 2023 08: 37
    Shalom, Orthodox!
    Many illustrations - do not like, few illustrations - do not like ...
    Colleagues, already decide what you need, otherwise how it turns out with an example of formal logic: a lot of cheese - a lot of holes, a lot of holes - a little cheese, a lot of cheese - a little cheese.
    1. Fat
      +4
      8 September 2023 08: 56
      hi Hello Anton.
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      Colleagues, already decide what you need, otherwise how it turns out with an example of formal logic: a lot of cheese - a lot of holes, a lot of holes - a little cheese, a lot of cheese - a little cheese.

      Well, you must! Experiments show that a kilogram of cheese with holes and a kilogram of holes with cheese weigh and value the same ... However, gouda, for placing on a bun in 1 layer, is much more practical than maasdam wassat
      1. +5
        8 September 2023 09: 14
        Hello Borisych!
        Recent studies by British scientists clearly prove that a kilogram of gouda and a kilogram of maasdam occupy a different volume.
        1. +5
          8 September 2023 10: 15
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Recent studies by British scientists clearly prove that a kilogram of gouda and a kilogram of maasdam occupy a different volume.

          Well done!
          After all, they can whenever they want! laughing
          1. +3
            8 September 2023 16: 36
            Meanwhile, I note that not a single hadron collider was damaged in these studies!
        2. Fat
          +2
          8 September 2023 11: 14
          Therefore, I prefer an edammer, where the number of holes is minimal. Tasty and compact Yes
          1. +2
            8 September 2023 11: 32
            Quote: Thick
            That's why I prefer edammer

            I'm a Roquefort! There are no holes in it at all and completely penicillin mold!
            1. Fat
              +2
              8 September 2023 18: 26
              Quote: kalibr
              There are no holes in it at all and it’s all penicillin mold!


              Well... In general, yes...
              It's true that there are no holes in the right Edam. Peter I brought this variety to Russia. Now local producers simply call it Dutch. Everything is fair and without any tricks in the internal content fellow smile
    2. +4
      8 September 2023 09: 09
      “Who loves watermelon, and who loves pork cartilage” (c).
    3. +2
      8 September 2023 21: 27
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      Shalom, Orthodox!
      Many illustrations - do not like, few illustrations - do not like ...
      Colleagues, already decide what you need, otherwise how it turns out with an example of formal logic: a lot of cheese - a lot of holes, a lot of holes - a little cheese, a lot of cheese - a little cheese.

      Kittens!!! laughing
  8. +2
    8 September 2023 08: 40
    Here, on the platform, this monument to Czechoslovak soldiers has already been erected in our time
    Then the Czech Republic and Slovakia were friendly partners and the monument was erected, as it were, to the fighters against Bolshevism of friendly partners on the territory of Russia. Now the Czech Republic and Slovakia are not friendly partners, and what is the significance of the monument now?
  9. -1
    8 September 2023 08: 52
    Quote: kor1vet1974
    And what is the significance of the monument now?

    Some people and the Foreign Ministry seem to constantly declare that "we are not them", we will not demolish and cancel anything ... Such is our difficult colonial fate ...
    1. +3
      8 September 2023 10: 55
      And I’m not calling for demolition, now it turns out that the monument has been erected to fighters from unfriendly countries, what sacred meaning does it carry? Is this a monument to heroes? What kind of heroism did they commit? And if they are enemies, then what are the enemies for? laughing
  10. +6
    8 September 2023 11: 14
    The photos are cool - I wanted to go to Penza, honestly ...

    Now something to the point.

    The cradle of the Czechoslovak army and in general their modern statehood was ... Kyiv.
    In 1914, the first Czech squad against the Austrians was formed here from emigrants and sent to the front. In 1915 - already a whole regiment of defectors.
    At that time, Masaryk appeared in Kyiv - who in 1918 became the first president of independent Czechoslovakia.

    Czech newspapers were published here and the journalist Jaroslav Hasek composed his cult "Schweik". By the way, then he found himself with the Reds, moreover, as a commissar and even a military commandant of Bugulma.

    The whole life of this brilliant writer and joker is one big joke over everyone.
    Unfortunately, his wife did not understand the humor and tried to hide the unlucky husband in ... Prague Institute of Psychiatry. What then did not prevent her, as the heiress after Hasek, who died in 1923, to live comfortably on fees from the repeatedly reprinted Schweik, and together with her young husband ...

    In 1962, the USSR and Czechoslovakia filmed a really funny and funny film comedy "The Big Road" with excellent actors (Yakovlev, Borisov and the best Schweik in the cinema - Czech Grushinsky) on the topic of the rebellion of the White Czechs, Hasek and Schweik. Historians can argue with this comedy, but still the filmmakers did it cool...

    1. +3
      8 September 2023 11: 34
      Quote: Timofey Charuta
      On the topic of the revolt of the White Czechs, Hasek and Schweik - in 1962 the USSR and Czechoslovakia filmed a really funny and funny comedy film "Big Road

      It's good that you remember. I've seen this movie, but I forgot the title.
  11. +2
    8 September 2023 11: 36
    Quote: Timofey Charuta
    The photos are cool - I wanted to go to Penza, honestly ...

    Come! Lots of interesting things. The museums are interesting, the art gallery... The city on the mountain itself is not quite ordinary... You can order a tour of the city via the Internet - there are several of them and all of them are interesting.
  12. +3
    8 September 2023 13: 01
    It's always nice to see postcards and photographs from that period, to see the landscapes, cities and how people once lived.
  13. 0
    8 September 2023 13: 37
    “White Czechs are freezing in harsh Siberia...” - they made a cool video on this topic.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vrRPtle2Pg

  14. +2
    8 September 2023 15: 44
    Today it is again paved with paving stones, but only it is still rough, and the street itself has become pedestrian

    This is the right paving stone! In St. Petersburg, in winter, you can easily slip on Palace Square. But there was nothing to be done; we tried to preserve the historicism.
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
  15. +3
    8 September 2023 17: 41
    And why "whites"? They are as white as they are brown. They raped, robbed, burned and killed my long-suffering Motherland. And they erect monuments. “They just wanted to go home”—something along these lines was written in Vladivostok.
    1. +1
      9 September 2023 07: 59
      Why "white Czechs"? They are as white as they are brown. They raped, robbed, burned and killed my long-suffering Motherland.
      Well, this is what the domestic whites did, and then a huge part of them went to serve the browns. That's why they were called white - their contemporaries knew better. Then those who like to “crunch French rolls” showed themselves very clearly. And these Czechs helped them.
    2. 0
      9 September 2023 12: 17
      During the entire period of the Second World War, the Soviet Union received arms, food, etc. in the amount of approximately $10 billion under Lend-Lease. As of March 1944, “our” Czech friends supplied “our” German friends with only weapons and equipment worth 14 billion marks... As of June 22, 1941. 1 US dollar was exchanged for 2,5 marks.
      By June 1941, one third of German weapons consisted of Czech-made weapons. Armored vehicles from there also made up a quarter of the fleet of all 17 German tank divisions of the 1st echelon. In 1944, the Czech Republic monthly (!) supplied Germany with about 11 thousand pistols, 30 thousand rifles, more than 3 thousand machine guns, 15 million cartridges, about 100 self-propelled artillery guns, 144 infantry guns, 180 anti-aircraft guns, more than 620 thousand artillery shells, almost a million shells for anti-aircraft guns, from 600 to 900 wagons of aerial bombs, 0,5 million signal ammunition, 1000 tons of gunpowder and 600 thousand explosives. And that's not it. There was also production at aircraft factories in the Czech Republic, which was stopped only on March 25, 1945, after aircraft bombed the production buildings
      And the arms factories continued to forge victory for the Wehrmacht until May 5, 1945. Berlin had already been taken, and the Czechs, like Stakhanov, continued to work for the benefit of the Reich. They stopped doing this only because they stopped receiving salaries...
      Well... 100 thousand Slovaks and Czechs served in the Wehrmacht. About 7 thousand of them died. During the liberation of Czechoslovakia, 144 thousand Soviet soldiers and officers died!...
  16. +2
    8 September 2023 19: 12
    And here’s another thing - all these wires are gone


    This means that the city now has cable sewerage. There are a lot of wires in modern cities, incomparable to the beginning of the century.
  17. -1
    26 October 2023 11: 44
    Shpakovsky, as always, says one thing, but sells the reader another.... Not objective. He showed everything beautiful that exists today, except for the rebellion itself, which he seemed to be going to talk about... Of course, “the volume of the article is not rubber.” .....

    The pleasure of these contradictions is “not for everyone”, although....as one Kazakh friend says ;"I love listening and watching Jewish programs when it comes to facts. They know something that others don’t know. For this it’s always worth watching. And I prefer to turn their interpretations 180 degrees.. laughing .. "
  18. 0
    22 November 2023 12: 48
    The computer game Cs Legion will be released soon
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1469610/Last_Train_Home/
  19. 0
    4 February 2024 00: 38
    It’s strange to cover the White Bohemian rebellion and not cover their victims. Ordinary people whom the Czechs killed, raped and burned. For Shpakovsky, everything resulted in a tour of his hometown and a vague, sometimes self-contradictory narrative. However, I didn’t expect anything else from the Gauleiter.