Feudal Russia and modernization of the XNUMXth century

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Feudal Russia and modernization of the XNUMXth century
Vsekhvyatsky bridge and the Kremlin at the end of the XNUMXth century. Hood. A. Vasnetsov. XNUMXth century


In the two previous articles, I described the interrelated situation associated with the external military factor and the formation of Russian feudalism, the emergence of a class of feudal lords and peasants. But another, important factor that determined the specifics of the development of Russian feudalism was not covered in these articles.



Russia in the XNUMXth century reforms, or what is traditionally called modernization, were on the agenda. These transformations had to be carried out in a society that had just taken shape as a feudal one. Where "enslavement" marked the creation of feudalism and the feudal state at a time when many European states were at the stage of transition to capitalism. Therefore, we observe a significant difference in the development of technology and the economy.

Slavic patriot Yuri Krizhanich spoke in detail about the economic situation in the country, considering it to be a "lag".

I have already written more than once that this was not quite a lag. This lag was only in comparison with the leading European West. Russia in the XNUMXth century perfectly corresponded to that stage of social development, which is called feudalism. Of course, not without adjusting for the zone of risky agriculture in which the country was located, or stepmother nature.

Here are its key features: the weak development of local trade and the virtual absence of international trade. Raw materials are exported out of need, and not because of surpluses (wheat, rye, leather, wax, caviar). Due to the weak development of finance, foreign merchants occupied a dominant position in trade. There is no mining of ores, the craft and the basis of the country - agriculture - were at an extremely low productive level. And all this in a country with a huge and uninhabited territory, writes Krizhanich, which is under constant threat from nomads.


Moscow street XVII century. Hood. A. Ryabushin. XIX century

And the almost complete absence of modern technology, primarily military. And just as technologies had nowhere to come from in early feudal Europe, so in Russia at the beginning of the XNUMXth century no forces could create them, the social structure of society was not yet ready for this.


Spring train of the queen on a pilgrimage under Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich. Hood. V. Schwartz of the XNUMXth century

And there was only one way: to borrow. The borrowing of more advanced technologies, primarily in military affairs, began under Ivan III, and they never stopped. What is traditionally called in historiography and journalism "modernization" in the XNUMXth century was in fact "total borrowing".

There was nothing special to modernize, in Russia there was not a single “factory” or “factory”, more precisely, a manufactory, there were no maps, no paper, no cannonballs, no swords, no fabrics for army clothes. Neither scientists, nor science, nor just secular education, even the level of knowledge of the priests was extremely low and limited to the scholastic performance of rituals, etc., etc. The same situation is in the key economic sector of Russia - agriculture, built on the principles of natural management economy.


Bookshop on the Spassky bridge in Moscow. Hood. A. Vasnetsov. XNUMXth century

It is important to understand what we have already written about, there were no algorithms for making changes, it was an intuitive way. At the same time, the state had to solve a huge number of tasks.

What can we say about borrowing in the field of armaments, when the Lithuanian Statute of 1649, written in Russian language, was used as a model and plan for the design of the first feudal legislation, the Council Code of 1588.

"Gunpowder revolution" and "total borrowing"


The “Military Revolution” or the “Great Gunpowder Revolution”, which we already wrote about, in Western Europe at the turn of the end of the Middle Ages and the beginning of the New Age led to an integrated approach to managing the army and conducting combat operations, where the main character was a soldier who implicitly follows orders and armed with a gun weapons. This situation on the battlefield would last almost unchanged until the French Revolution.

The "military revolution", according to a number of researchers, led to the military superiority of the countries where it took place, which was demonstrated even by peripheral Sweden, which captured almost the entire coast of the Baltic Sea and smashed the imperial troops in Germany during the 30-year war of 1618-1648.

Therefore, the first Russian tsars from the Romanov family and their entourage, simultaneously with the formation of the state, had to solve the issue of technological total borrowing.

The system of the feudal militia, which had just been formed with such difficulty in a natural way, no longer met the requirements of modern warfare:

And they don’t have a doctrine for battle against the Reitar one, - wrote the fugitive clerk Grigory Kotoshikhin, - and they don’t know any formation; who under which banner is written, and therefore rides without formation.

The factor of discrepancy between the social structure of society and technological borrowings will become decisive in the development of the country from this period.

This gave rise to talk about Russia as a country with a "catch-up type of development."

Once again about Russian feudalism


The need for technology and pressure from technologically more developed countries significantly influenced and gave specific features to the development of feudalism in Russia. That is why we do not see a number of European feudal institutions in Russia, since its genesis took place in other material conditions.

The European knight was formed in battle conditions using exclusively edged weapons, fought, in fact, alone, which imposed a certain style of behavior on the feudal lords and formed a knightly ethics, mentality, with all the ensuing consequences. While the formation of the "Russian knight" took place in the conditions of a firearms battle, when the clash of disciplined soldiers replaced individual skill and duel. By the middle of the 1632th century, the noble militia was completely armed with firearms, but did not have new military knowledge and skills. So the confrontation between the local militia and the regiments of the foreign or new system did not make it possible to take Smolensk in 1634–XNUMX.


Boyar Hood. P. Chistyakov. nineteenth century

The most important factor in mastering new military technologies, by which we mean primarily the control and combat system caused by the “gunpowder revolution”, was the presence of hired foreign specialists who led and trained new units. Even in the defense of Albazin on the Amur from the troops of Qing China in 1686, the Cossack head, the German A. Beiton, participated. And the level of understanding of military technologies was described in his diary by the Scottish mercenary Patrick Gordon, the future associate of Peter I. Boyar I.D. Miloslavsky tested foreign officers not for knowledge and ability to manage units, but for “exercise” with spears and muskets.

Ambassador Meyerberg counted in Moscow in 1662 one hundred colonels, even more lieutenant colonels and majors, countless captains and ensigns, there were two full generals and two major generals from Germany, Holland, England and especially from Scotland. The share of Russian commanders in the infantry and reytar regiments was 23%.

Initially, the creation of new units, for example soldiers, took place on a temporary basis, and the quality of the soldiers was inferior to the same archers. Dragoons were also temporarily recruited in the Komarin and Voronezh regions, Lebedyansky district. Throughout the XNUMXth century, along with the old system of formation of the armed forces at the expense of acting jointly noble "cities" (hundredth system), uniform Reiter regiments were being formed, where "city Cossacks" and low-income nobles were recruited; regiments of heavy hussar cavalry are created according to Polish models.

But all these changes occur with great difficulty, which is noted by all historians-specialists in military development and the army of the XNUMXth century. The regiments of the new system could only be maintained in wartime, while the local cavalry, relatively speaking, is on self-sufficiency.

Manufactory and technology


Borrowings were urgently needed in the field of "industrial" production. They began with the hiring of a huge number of different specialists in all sorts of specialties that are not available in Russia. And, of course, for the production of weapons and their components. An attempt to expand iron production at extremely primitive hand-made factories in the 20s. did not bring success. With an extreme shortage of funds, the purchase of high-quality iron and items from it was made abroad at an inflated price. So, in Sweden, the merchant K. Demoulin purchased cannons for 17 thousand rubles, in 1629 the cannonballs were bought at a price of 60 kopecks. for the core. Swords, muskets, and other weapons were bought in Sweden, England and Holland.


Gun. Syul. Thuringia. 1660s GIM. Moscow. Russia. Photo of the author.

Therefore, the government went on full borrowing in this area, allowing three foreign merchants in 1632 to build water-operating manufactories, completely, in modern terms, on foreign technologies, where water energy was used instead of hand bellows: water-operating hammers and a high blast furnace.


Cannon yard on Neglinnaya. Hood. A. Vasnetsov

In Europe, from where they were borrowed, they arose naturally from small-scale production. Manufactories were built first by the Dutchmen Andreas Vinius and Peter Marselis in Tula, and then near Moscow, in Kashira and Borovsk. That is, in the area of ​​high-quality iron ore mining. The Urals has not yet been explored for the presence of ores. Since the 80s, ironworks have been created in the Olonets region. In total, 12 such plants were built by foreigners. In the 20s. and the archaic Cannon Yard in Moscow, with the help of foreign craftsmen, was converted into a water-working plant.

Most of the workers in these factories, even in the 90s, were foreigners. All enterprises worked for the treasury, more precisely - for the military department: during this time, by the 80s. prices for a pood of cannon iron fell from 70 to 30 kopecks, for a core - from 40 to 20 kopecks, only plank iron for carbines rose in price. Production expanded so much that a small export of cannons began already in the 40s of the XNUMXth century.

We observe the same situation in all other sectors of the economy, borrowings go everywhere. It is significant that if in Europe a spinning wheel with a wheel, which many still found with their grandmothers in the XNUMXth century, began to take root in the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries, then in Russia the change of a spinning wheel with a spindle to a spinning wheel with a wheel only began at the end of the XNUMXth century with the help of hired Polish artisans.

The Dutch create a number of industries built on "modern" technologies that are not available to Russian artisans: leather, glass and potash, they built a rope manufactory. With the help of gardeners from the “Germans”, proper gardening was created and “pharmaceutical gardens” were planted.

Among the highest dignitaries there was an understanding that "technologies" were based on knowledge and required the creation of schools and the study of languages. Thus, F. M. Rtishchev (1626–1673), the favorite of the tsar, personally created a secular school with the help of monks from Kyiv.

Along with Western technology came fashion, all sorts of household material amenities that were not even in the palace. Their admirers were also the uncle of the tsar, an ambiguous personality, the head of the country under the young tsar Alexei and the patron of foreign merchants, B.I. Morozov (1591–1661) and his associate, who visited Holland, the steward I.D. favorite of Empress Sophia, Prince V.V. Golitsyn (1595–1662), who had “the most European palace” in Europe.

The finances of the feudal country


But the borrowing of technology, the maintenance of the army and the construction of defense structures required huge resources. It is significant that in Russia-Russia the beginning of feudalism, the general budget did not exist, and each order was engaged in its own financing and distribution of expenses, lending to needy orders.


In the order of the Moscow time. Hood. S. Ivanov. XNUMXth century

In addition to everything, Russia simply did not have its own money, that is, of course, there was a name, and there were exchange units, but there was no issue. Due to the lack of silver, the government bought silver (Russian "efimki", thalers) abroad and interrupted the coins. It was because of this that during the Polish war the government was forced to introduce copper money into circulation. Which was completely logical and justified, but the self-interest of the highest dignitaries led to their depreciation. This, in turn, caused the copper riot of 1662. It is obvious that the same situation directly affected the country's trade turnover, when, due to the lack of domestic emission, merchants turned into agents of foreign merchants who had silver money, "dollars" of that period. .

This dependence contributed to the periodic issuance of monopolies to foreign merchants (the British), which were extremely painful for the Russians. The policy of mercantilism of European countries was a painful blow to Russian trade. It happened that in the conditions of an urgent need for money, the government appointed a double duty on foreign goods, I recommend that they compensate for everything at the expense of Russian merchants.

What is the outcome?


It is a well-known fact that these technological borrowings did not work. True, there is an opinion that they were the forerunner of the "modernization" of Peter I, without which it would not have been possible. There are several reasons why this borrowing was not completed, and they are interconnected.

Firstly, it took place in the conditions of early feudalism, with the corresponding mental representations, where in a Christian society borrowing could lead to the loss of the soul, as in the case of tobacco, when it was allowed and then banned.

Secondly, in the period when both the management system and taxation were just being built, hence the leapfrog in units or objects of taxation, intensified by extraordinary and indirect taxes, despite the abundance of the country, according to foreigners, this was the heaviest burden for the draft population, taxpayers .

The management system itself is indicative - the command system - despite its branching, all orders were created on occasion, that is, as the need arose for the regulation of one or another area of ​​​​state activity, therefore, all nearby existed the Kazan or Kostroma quarter (territorial) and Razbayny or Detective (internal affairs) orders.

For the managers of the period of the medieval mentality, this institution was not seen as an abstract “state institution”, but as a place for personal gain, similar to the institution of feeding. Such institutions, developing gradually, of course, would have reached the required level, but not in the face of external threats, which Russia had. And this must be clearly understood.

This system in the XNUMXth century could not provide proper control and financing in the conditions of modernization.

The last key point was the fact that, with full awareness of the importance of borrowing technology, this activity was far from the main one for the monarch, it was entrusted to individual figures, and the kings continued to rule in the old way, live in the old way, think in the old way, as if without the control of the first faces these changes had to happen on their own. Which just didn't happen. As soon as the turbulent era of wars with Poland and Sweden passed, both production and the army began to lose their qualities acquired with such difficulty.

In Russia, which is at the feudal stage of development, it could not be otherwise. Society could naturally come to the development of technologies and production, management systems much later, but the surrounding conditions forced it to borrow here and now, when, as foreigners noted:

In general, Russians have no lack of intelligence.

To be continued ...
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  1. +11
    6 September 2023 04: 55
    Thank you!
    I agree with Edward - the evolutionary processes of the institution of public administration before Peter's reforms were spontaneous. The sophisticated system of orders (at first, the archery regiments were also orders) is difficult to systematize. Dyaks (heads of departments) sometimes even fought each other's beards for spheres of influence.
    At the same time, it should be noted that the state even tried to streamline the archaic institution of feeding. For example, the governor was appointed for a period of 2 years, and the task of the new counterpart was to prevent the predecessor from stealing the treasury !!!
    Well, the last. Iron on the stone belt has been known since the 30-40s of the 17th century. The problem was in logistics.
    However, I will not get ahead of the author. I think Euard will not pass by "feudal innovations in factory manufactories."
    Thanks again!
    1. +3
      6 September 2023 08: 21
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      The evolutionary processes of the institution of public administration before Peter's reforms were spontaneous.

      evolutionary processes are always spontaneous by definition

      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      For example, a governor was appointed for a period of 2 years, and the task of the new counterpart was to prevent his predecessor from stealing the treasury!!!

      the word "counterpart" does not fit here
    2. +1
      6 September 2023 22: 43
      The clerks (heads of departments) sometimes even tore each other’s beards over spheres of influence.
      It's like this isn't happening now.
  2. +10
    6 September 2023 05: 25
    Eduard, just great! We laid out everything, but I'm afraid the "stones" will fly hi smile
    1. +2
      6 September 2023 05: 57
      A cast-iron core flies from me.
      So, in Sweden, the merchant K. Demoulin purchased cannons for 17 thousand rubles, in 1629 the cannonballs were bought at a price of 60 kopecks. for the core. Swords, muskets, and other weapons were bought in Sweden, England and Holland.

      The article is a classic of propaganda (liberal-reformist persuasion). Probably the merchant bought it, and this is a fact, but we cross out the fact that the Dutch also bought from us.
      In the XIX-XX centuries in Russia and abroad the opinion was formed that the pre-Peter artillery was technically backward. But, here are the facts: in 1646, the Tula-Kamensk factories supplied Holland with more 600 guns, and in 1647, 360 guns of 4,6 caliber and 8 pounds. In 1675, the Tula-Kamensk factories shipped cast iron cannons, 116 cores, 43892 grenades, 2934 musket trunks, 2356 swords and 2700 iron poods abroad. ”

      Taken from here
      https://www.gorodche.ru/news/society/161463/
      http://reenactor.ru/index.php?showtopic=17709
      https://topwar.ru/31083-rus-iznachalnaya-zachem-evropeycy-vrut.html
      1. +8
        6 September 2023 06: 23
        Was it all forged from swamp iron from Tula?
        Or from purchased, imported raw materials?
      2. +14
        6 September 2023 06: 46
        Good morning,
        in the work it says:
        Production expanded so much that a small export of cannons began already in the 40s of the XNUMXth century.

        But these were "point" sales of cannons by the Dutch from their factories under state control for profit.
        "Point", because soon the war will begin - and the weapons themselves will be needed.
        But if the Dutch had not built factories, then no one would have sold anything anywhere. There would be nowhere to come from guns and cores in such quantities.
        And if you argue, do not give links to dubious sources about "Russia - the homeland of elephants" on the Internet, but to scientific works, there are not so many of them on the topic, for example, I recommend reading:
        Zaozerskaya E.I. At the origins of large-scale production in Russian industry of the 1970th–XNUMXth centuries. M., XNUMX.
        Baklanov N.B., Mavrodin V.V., Smirnov I.I. Tula and Kashira factories in the 1934th century. M.XNUMX.
        And you are "propaganda" - read carefully!
      3. +10
        6 September 2023 06: 53
        Yuz, smelted iron in the Donbass, sent it to England where ships were built for the Russian fleet .. So, by the way. You read the article carefully. Were the guns and barrels for muskets made according to Russian technologies and on the basis of Russian projects?
      4. +10
        6 September 2023 09: 10
        A cast-iron core flies from me.

        Manure on the fan flies from you, not the core. No Tula-Kamensky factories existed in nature. There was a state-owned Kamensky iron foundry, which began functioning in 1682. And there were the Tula factories of the Dutch Vinius and Marselis, who exported the guns.
        But the turbo-patriots - Rodnovers, with a cunning volt, created some "Tula-Kamensky factories" and hang this noodles on the ears of an undemanding public.
        1. 0
          6 September 2023 12: 36
          The name of the talented Russian cannon and bell maker Andrei Chokhov (c. 1545–1629) occupies a special place in Russian history. For more than sixty years he worked at the Moscow Cannon Yard, casting dozens of wonderful guns and bells and raising a whole galaxy of students. 12 large guns cast by Chokhov have survived to our time. Seven of them - the largest collection - are on display at the museum. Three Chokhov guns - the already mentioned Inrog siege gun, the Yegup mortar, cast in 1587, and the so-called "Imposter mortar", cast in 1605, can be seen in the hall.

          https://artillery-museum.ru/ru/basic/voennaya-istoriya-rossii-do-seredinyi-xix-v.html
          1. +3
            6 September 2023 13: 22
            And why this demonstration of well-known facts? Somewhere in the article the existence of the Cannon Yard, which cast artillery pieces, or the foundry worker Chokhov is denied in Moscow?
            You would be better off comparing the number of guns imported from Holland to Russia at the beginning of the XNUMXth century with your own production. Can you?
            1. +1
              6 September 2023 15: 58
              We can. I think on the contrary, the Dutch themselves could not organize what they needed and invested in Russia + sales are ready for backward Holland
              In the 1620s, Dutch merchants received a virtual monopoly on the export of Russian raw materials (bread, potash and timber). And in the 1630s they began to build metallurgical factories in Muscovy - the export of guns brought them up to 500% profit. European masters began to flock to Muscovy. Looking at the Dutch, the boyars also started super-profitable blast furnaces and potash production enterprises. The country has westernized. The Dutch also formed the “Moscow character” - greedy and ready to do anything for money.

              https://ttolk.ru/articles/pervaya_rossiyskaya_industrializatsiya_gollandtsyi_v_moskovii_xvii_veka
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              By 1637, Vinius built four factories in the Tula region; however, the construction was costly, and the Dutch entrepreneur was forced to take on two other merchants, Piotr Marselis and Telemann Akema, as partners. After some time, the partners quarreled, not dividing the profits. Ultimately, Marcelis and Akema bought out Vinius' business. Vinius still did not lose, returning to the trade in bread and hemp. The tsar endowed him with the title: "Commissioner of His Tsarist Majesty the Russian Sovereign."

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              Marcelis and Akema expanded Vinius' enterprise, and by 1660 there were already seven Dutch factories in Russia that could produce hundreds of cannons a year. Marcelis’ biographer wrote: “Their significance in the history of Russian industry is extremely great: they were representatives of capital in the then Russian society, which still lived in the sphere of subsistence farming.”

              As a result, Dutch capitalists created the Russian metallurgical industry and provided the Russian army with modern artillery. This was an obvious success of the policy to attract foreign investment; in 1646, 600 guns were exported to Holland, and in 1647, 340 guns. In 1668, Marcelis reported to the embassy order that “cast cannons can be made as much as needed,” and tens of thousands of cannonballs and grenades were produced at Tula factories. It was worse with muskets, few of them were made (there were not enough Dutch and Prussian craftsmen), and huge quantities of muskets had to be purchased from Holland and Sweden.
              1. +1
                6 September 2023 16: 41
                We can.

                Sit down. You can't do well. To paraphrase the hero of the famous film - for resourcefulness - five, but on the subject - bad!
                In your spare time, so as not to write nonsense like “the Dutch themselves could not”, try to find out who Moritz of Orange is in relation to artillery, what the “big Dutch outfit” is and what kind of guns the artillery of the Russian army near Narva consisted of in 1700.
                1. -2
                  6 September 2023 17: 26
                  At leisure, so as not to write nonsense like "the Dutch themselves could not"

                  there may be several reasons. You are considering the most idiotic of all. Why?
                  Previously in most lands, Russian, non-Russian, Chinese, Dutch, etc. was subsistence farming. Since the transport of goods was hampered by the absence of the transport itself, by means of roads, robbery and customs at many frontiers. The only thing is silk in China, spices from India and so on.
                  Therefore, to export masters, apprentices across distant lands to Muscovy in order to do something there and then bring it back means dooming a trading operation to so many risks that it will never work.
                  So, my version is when we had everything but didn’t have a sales market + perhaps some kind of technology, and Moritz of Orange made investments and became like a “big Dutch outfit”.
                  1. +4
                    6 September 2023 21: 08
                    You are not just an ignoramus, you are a militant ignoramus. You are generating a fantastic delirium without even trying to get to the heart of the matter. Although this is in trend today - the cult of militant ignorance is flourishing, even lumpen flocks are already running here.
                    1. 0
                      7 September 2023 04: 53
                      There is also the concept of “rotten intelligentsia” (for me it is always rotten). Instead of criticizing in essence, you hide behind an elementary chattering of the issue. I’ll make an allegory (I love the ancient Greeks).
                      The great mathematician Kolmogorov wanted to be a historian. He conducted an analysis and showed that an army of such a size could not have been in a given place for such and such a time, since local resources could not feed horses and people + the road network did not allow food to be brought from a large area, then the number of the army indicated in historical chronicles is incorrect.
                      He was praised, but they said that it was necessary to find a mention in other sources confirming this information.
                      So he became one of the greatest mathematicians.

                      I am also a mathematician (I have a bad attitude towards Fomenko, he distorts everything with talent, but in fact everything among historians has rotted right) and that’s why you don’t understand me. And your text has no logic or pulling out some fact, without connection with others, or pouring mud on the opponent.
                      These are the most ancient people on earth. History will not give the answer, science gives immediately - the Bushmen. They separated from everyone about 70 thousand years ago and practically did not mix with other people. That's what their DNA shows.
                      1. +2
                        7 September 2023 12: 54
                        You do not understand me

                        Nothing surprising - I am not a specialized specialist, although I have read Kandinsky and Kovalevsky.
                        throwing mud at an opponent.

                        Have mercy, sir, no one poured mud on you. As an individual, you are deeply indifferent to me, my characteristics refer exclusively to your knowledge in the field of history, although the tortuous course of your reasoning does not inspire optimism in other areas of knowledge.
                      2. -1
                        7 September 2023 13: 43
                        Since you are so erudite, then tell me who wrote: “Don’t speak red”?
                        It's about how you express your thoughts.
                      3. 0
                        7 September 2023 14: 07
                        Since you are so erudite, then tell me who wrote: “Don’t speak red”?

                        Erudition does not imply omniscience, which, as is known, is an exclusively divine attribute.
                        It's about how you express your thoughts.

                        § 1 Eloquence is the art of speaking eloquently about any given matter and thereby inclining others to your opinion about it. The matter suggested by this art is called speech or word.


                        Lomonosov M.V., A short guide to eloquence
                      4. -3
                        7 September 2023 16: 16
                        Sorry, you guessed wrong. This is Kozma Prutkov.
                      5. 0
                        7 September 2023 18: 59
                        Yes, I didn’t even guess; I answered about your claims to eloquence. It seems that, to all your merits, you perceive only yourself.
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      +8
      6 September 2023 08: 45
      hi Alexey!
      Quote: parusnik
      I'm afraid stones will fly

      Okay. It is not only difficult to argue with factual material, but also pointless. Since the 17th century, our State has been in a state of permanent modernization, albeit unevenly - this is a fact. This is enough for a normal high self-esteem of a Russian person without excesses into "national exclusivity" and the "holy mission" of the Russian People smile
  3. 0
    6 September 2023 06: 23
    That's interesting, our Sovereign Fedor Alekseevich, in the five years of his reign, did more than Tsar Petka in all his years. No wonder the boyars laughed, in the presence of their elder brother they themselves shaved their beards and wore a German dress. And Peter makes everything by force.
    As for the economy. Duke Jacob Kettler. made his duchy equal to England, France, Spain. There were even lands in Africa and America.
    As for Tsar Petka, he developed the economy by shaving his beards. This king of a drunkard reminds me more of another ruler of an alcoholic. By the way, one surrendered the country to America without a shot, the other to the Holy Roman Empire.
    Speaking of lag. Not a single European country was subjected to annual raids by the Tatar hordes. How much physical and economic strength was spent on the construction of serif lines ...
    1. +5
      6 September 2023 10: 05
      Quote: Gardamir
      Duke Jacob Kettler. made his duchy equal to England, France, Spain.

      I'm sorry, what? belay
  4. +8
    6 September 2023 06: 54
    The author describes the period of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries in Russia in a very gloomy way. There is nothing. We ship everything from Europe.
    Russia has always occupied a very important place in the European trade market. Since the XII-XIII centuries
    The main Russian export goods were, firstly, raw materials and semi-finished products (hemp, flax, potash, resin, lard, blubber, wax), secondly, finished products (leathers, furs, canvases) and, thirdly, food (fish, caviar and honey).
    Imported from Europe, mainly cloth, fabrics, metals and metal products, weapons, haberdashery, jewelry, currency, chemicals, wines, food and spices.
    But according to the preserved customs books (Pskov, Velikoluk, Kargopol, etc.), Russia also exported weapons (guns, cannonballs and edged weapons).
    I must say that Russia was an international center of trade (east-west).
    Yes, they usually traded with the West through intermediaries, although there were direct contacts (Sweden, England, Holland).
    Fairs were an important economic factor.
    Gradually, the institute of a merchant-buyer-wholesaler is being formed in Russia.
    Indeed, foreigners began to build and develop manufactories. The locals were not far behind.
    But how does this affect the formation of feudalism?
    The fact that the control system was formed by the method of scientific poke is quite normal. Of course, this system could be copied, but the state has not yet really formed.
    1. +10
      6 September 2023 07: 18
      The author describes the period of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries in Russia in a very gloomy way. There is nothing. We ship everything from Europe.

      Alexander, good morning,
      what you describe is a high school story. There is another purpose for the study of history. as Delyagin joked: who to shoot?
      Then there are different levels: there is a history textbook for non-core universities, and there are for historians - they are very different.
      Because they have different goals (at least that was the case in the USSR).
      You described the textbook story about commodity relations in the style of a fairy tale film about Sadko, but if everything was so pastel and fine, why would our ancestors tear their hair in different places, and even blood on their backs, carrying out borrowing-modernization?
      And not only in the period under review.
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      2. +13
        6 September 2023 07: 47
        Fortunately, I didn’t read the school textbook. Russia borrowed technology and is now using it. There is nothing constipated about this.
        And the fact that honey was exchanged for technology is better than land for beads.
    2. +7
      6 September 2023 07: 23
      Somehow the author describes the period of the XNUMXth–XNUMXth centuries in Russia very gloomily. There is nothing. We ship everything from Europe.

      Alexander, it turns out that there is a meeting at work: We are not fulfilling the plan!
      And why? Did the suppliers let you down, did the products do the wrong thing? Production? Marketing and advertising? Sales department?
      Of course not. This analytics failed - it showed a very gloomy picture, but if it were not there, even if it was automatic, built into the ERP system, then everything would be rosy and rosy.
      And everything is dark here?
      A familiar picture good
      1. +4
        6 September 2023 07: 40
        And where in Europe at that time was fun?
        Good morning Edward!
        1. +8
          6 September 2023 08: 02
          And where in Europe at that time was fun?

          I have never written about how it’s fun in Europe, but here it’s so sad.
          I am writing about something completely different: how our state developed and about the objective problems of "lagging behind", etc.
          And it’s fun where there is wine and music, like at Peter’s assembly: drink, otherwise the guards will beat you laughing
          You can't entertain yourself, no one will.
          Best regards, hi
          1. +5
            6 September 2023 08: 29
            This is not from a school textbook
            "Industry and trade of the Russian state in the XVI-XVII centuries."
            Demkin A.V.
            “In the XNUMXth century, metallurgy belonged exclusively to the category of small peasant industries. Only in the XNUMXth century, along with small-scale production, large-scale manufacturing metallurgical production arose. Ferrous metallurgy (iron smelting) was widespread in various regions of European Russia: in the North-West (the coast of the Finnish Bay, Karelia, districts of Tikhvin, Beloozero, Ustyuzhna-Zhelezopolskaya, Poshekhonye, ​​Galich, Solvychegodsk), in the Center (Serpukhov, Tula, Kashirsky, Aleksinsky, Dedilovsky and Krapivensky districts), in the Middle Volga region (Nizhny Novgorod, Balakhninsky, Makaryevsky, Kurmyshsky and Arzamas counties). Among other regions known for their centers of ferrous metallurgy, it is necessary to note the Left Bank Ukraine, the Urals, and Siberia.
            Iron processing was practiced everywhere, and blacksmithing was one of the main craft specialties both in the city and in the countryside. But there were centers that were all-Russian famous because of their iron goods: Tula, Ustyuzhna-Zhelezopolskaya, Karelian churchyards, Ustyug Veliky, Tver, Moscow, etc.
            Large manufacturing enterprises, which usually not only smelted iron, but also produced various products (from nails, boards, gratings to weapons) worth tens of thousands of pounds, were built in Russia starting in the 30s. XNUMXth century
            Often they were created by representatives of European commercial capital with the support of the Treasury. These are complexes of enterprises: the first in Tula, Kashirsky and Borovsky counties (on the rivers Tulitsa, Skniga, Vereya and Protva), owned by A. Vinius, Marselises, T. Akema, and later by V. Meller and boyar [92] L.K. Naryshkin , and the second in Karelia (on the coast of Lake Onega), which was owned by G. Butenant. "Iron-working factories" were also owned by representatives of the Russian nobility, the boyars I.D. Miloslavsky (in Obolensky) and B.I. Morozov (in Zvenigorod and Nizhny Novgorod districts). In the Urals (on the rivers Neiva and Nitsa), for some time, the factories of the Tumashev entrepreneurs, the Nitsynsky state-owned and the Dolmatova Monastery produced products.
            In Russia, small-scale copper smelting production has received some development. Its regions: Pomorie (Pechora River), Karelia (Olonets, Zaonezhye) and Prikamye. In the XNUMXth century Even large copper smelting enterprises were temporarily operating: the state-owned Pyskorsky plant in the Kama region, plants in Kazan and Karelia
            In the XVI-XVII centuries. historians number 220-240 handicraft specialties, whose representatives worked in cities and rural areas. And only in Moscow were they all presented in full. With the development of market relations, the share of small-scale production is constantly growing and the number of "pure" artisans, who made products only to order, is decreasing. Areas and individual centers are singled out where certain types of production are most famous. Thus, carpentry was most developed in the Russian North[93]re, in the Podvinya, on the Mezen, on Vyatka and in such cities as Vologda, Ustyug the Great and Solvychegodsk. Wooden utensils, widely used in everyday life, also had the most famous centers of production - these are Tver, Kaluga, Dorogobuzh, the settlements of Belozersky district. Woodworking has received great development in Moscow. Pottery was famous for Novgorod and Pskov lands, Tver, Smolensk, Kashin and Kolomna. Linen fabrics were mainly made in Novgorod, Pskov, Smolensk, Tver, Yaroslavl, Olonets and Prionezhsky lands. The centers of cloth making were the Trinity-Sergius Monastery, Mozhaisk, Rzhev and Vologda. The leather business has been greatly developed in Yaroslavl, Nizhny Novgorod, Kazan, Kostroma, Pskov, Novgorod, Suzdal, Murom, Kaluga and Tobolsk. Yaroslavl, Kostroma, Tver and Vologda soaps were sold all over the country. The centers of icon painting are Moscow, Novgorod, Pskov, Tver, Yaroslavl, Vologda and Rostov. Jewelry craftsmen concentrated mainly in Moscow, Veliky Ustyug, Nizhny Novgorod, Novgorod and Tikhvin.

            There is also a rapid growth of large-scale (often manufacturing) production. In addition to metallurgy, salt mining and chemical industries, large enterprises arose in the foundry, brick, rope, textile, leather and other industries, as well as in river shipbuilding. The main center of large-scale production was Moscow. Here were the state and palace Cannon, Grenade, Printing, Coin, Khamovny (textile enterprise), Powder Yards, Armory, Gold, Silver, Tsaritsyna workshop (sewing production) chambers, and a paper-making enterprise. For some time, velvet, morocco and cloth production were in operation. In Moskovsky u. glassblowing, paper-making and cloth-making enterprises were set up by foreigners. Rope factories owned by foreigners (mostly British) operated in Vologda, Arkhangelsk and Kholmogory. Large tanneries are noted in Kazan, Yaroslavl and Tobolsk. The centers of river shipbuilding [94] were the Volga, Prioksk, and Sukhno-Dvina cities; hundreds of river ships were built in the Ob and Yenisei basins. Many thousands of mills and distilleries operated in European Russia and Siberia[5].

            With the beginning of the New Age, the system of regional and local markets that had developed in the previous era moves into a new phase of its development: a single all-Russian market with a center in Moscow is gradually being formed. Moreover, along with local (serving a given city and county) and regional (which are characterized by the presence of specialized goods that satisfied the needs of a number of local markets), interregional markets are also emerging, closely related to foreign and Siberian trade, either border and port cities, or large transshipment points located at the intersection of the most important trade routes. Interregional markets include Novgorod, Pskov, Smolensk, Arkhangelsk, Vologda, Yaroslavl, Nizhny Novgorod, Astrakhan, Verkhoturye, Tobolsk. Large fairs are being organized, which, some earlier, [95] others later, acquire national significance: these are the Arkhangelsk, Makaryevskaya (near Nizhny Novgorod), Svenskaya (near Bryansk), and Irbitskaya (near Verkhoturye) fairs. In the XNUMXth century, everywhere the bearer of commercial capital—the buyer—actively ousted the direct producers of towns and villages from the market.

            During the period under review, a new range of wholesale trade goods finally came to the fore: consumer products and raw materials (bread, salt, leather, hemp, flax, linen, lard, resin, fish). At the same time, the traditional fur trade is also important. A number of interregional and regional markets are known for the goods that defined their identity: Smolensk (bread, flax, hemp), Novgorod and Pskov (flax, hemp, iron goods, furs, fish), Vologda (bread, salt, leather, iron goods), Nizhny Novgorod (bread, salt), Astrakhan (fish, furs), Yaroslavl (leather, fish), Tver (salt, fish, iron goods), Ustyug Veliky (bread, furs), Verkhoturye (bread, textiles), Tobolsk (bread , textiles, furs), Kungur (bread, leather). In addition to them, grain markets were Vyatka, Voronezh, Orel, iron markets - Ustyuzhna-Zhelezopolskaya, Tikhvin, Serpukhov, Tula, leather markets - Kazan, salt markets - Staraya Rusa, Kargopol, Sol Kamskaya, Kholmogory, fur markets - Vyazma, Solvychegodsk, Tara, etc. . Moscow, the center of the emerging all-Russian market, was famous, first of all, for ready-made consumer goods, which had both local Moscow and nonresident, and foreign origin"(c)
            And you say that it was targeted. There are many points, and this must be taken into account the territory of what was then Russia.
            1. Fat
              +6
              6 September 2023 09: 02
              hi Alexander.
              The first copper smelter (Spirovsky) was built by the Novgorod merchant Semyon Gavrilov in the Foimogub volost on the territory of the Zaonezhsky Peninsula in 1670. (The government issued Gavrilov a letter of commendation and funds for the search for copper ores and the construction of a plant).
              The large-scale development of the metallurgical industry began after the reign of Alexei Mikhailovich, when the Dane Butenant von Rosenbusch, with the assistance of the government, founded in 1680-1690 in Zaonezhsky churchyards five iron-smelting and iron-working plants (Ustyretsky, Foymogubsky, Lizhemsky, Spirovsky, Kedrozersky), using local marsh and lake ores. In 1703, the factories were bought out to the treasury and soon ceased their activities, with the exception of Ustyretsky, which was closed in 1719.
              (From the history of the Olonets mining plants)...
              This is not in spite of you, but as if in confirmation. However, the first Olonets factories were founded by an invited foreign specialist. Olonets iron from marsh and lake ores was in no way inferior to Swedish iron in quality.
            2. +10
              6 September 2023 09: 17
              Alexander,
              well you give!
              Why not copy the whole book? laughing
              Often they were created by representatives of European commercial capital with the support of the Treasury.
              laughing
              And now at least one example of a manufactory in the field of armaments and metalworking, even at the same Morozov or Miloslavsky (by the way, how did they feel there by the end of the XNUMXth century?), Which was not created by the Dutch?
              And in Kadashihenoy Sloboda, what is the percentage of Poles among the Khamovniks (weavers) in the XNUMXth century?

              I never wrote anywhere that there was nothing at all, but all "industrial" production was handicraft, even that which worked for the Palace. Maximum: three forges under one roof! on manual pull. This is what we're talking about.
              It's like writing now that, along with computers sold in the Russian Federation of their own production laughing laughing good There are also foreign products.
              1. +4
                6 September 2023 10: 46
                Here you write:
                “There was nothing special to modernize; in Russia there was not a single “factory” or “factory”, or rather, a manufactory, there were no maps, no paper, no cannonballs, no swords, no fabrics for army clothing. No scientists, no science, not just secular education, even the level of knowledge of priests was extremely low and was limited to the scholastic performance of rituals, etc., etc. The same situation is in the key economic sector of Russia - agriculture, built on the principles of subsistence farming."
                Others see it a little differently.
                I copied a small part of the article hi
                According to the principle of not adding, not adding!
                It's not all gloomy.
                1. +7
                  6 September 2023 11: 14
                  Others see it a little differently.

                  Sincere thanks for this! I did not take into account that many people see it this way, "gloomy", but there was no purpose to write that "everything is so gloomy" - the goal is to show why and how.
                  It’s just that then the following question arises: if everything was fine in the 17th century, why modernize and strain? Well, tag on.
                  Here's the question: objectively about the problems? Is it always just gloomy? laughing
                  I had one colleague, he was terribly afraid of the word "problem", when they asked him: how is your company having problems, he jumped up and down, we don't have any problems!
                  But people did not mean by "problem" - "everything is lost" laughing
                  1. +8
                    6 September 2023 12: 55
                    objectively about the problems? Is it always just gloomy?

                    ++++++++++++!!!
                    The article is fire!
                    Thank you Edward! )))
    3. +5
      6 September 2023 13: 41
      Somehow very gloomy, the author describes the period of the XVI-XVII centuries in Russia

      Who is to blame that the reality of that time looked, as you say, gloomy. And the author is just dispassionate. Today, there are rarely such authors who, among other things, also give reasoned answers to all sorts of Kochurkov amateurs and turbopatriots from history.
  5. +5
    6 September 2023 07: 52
    Good day to all! hi

    Thank you very much Edward for the article!

    In general, Russians have no lack of intelligence.

    good
  6. -1
    6 September 2023 08: 23
    The author contradicts himself, on the one hand everything is gone, and on the other:
    I have already written more than once that this was not entirely a lag. This lag was only in comparison with the European West ahead. Russia in the XNUMXth century corresponded perfectly to that stage of social development called feudalism.

    To compare Russia with European countries of that time, it is necessary to highlight the main reason for the rapid development of industry in Europe and what events preceded this?
    I would also like to draw attention to the fact that if Russia were weak in relation to Europe, then, as historical experience shows, it would have been conquered and colonized by the same European powers earlier than America, Africa and Asia. wink
    1. +7
      6 September 2023 09: 05
      if Russia were weak in relation to Europe, then, as historical experience shows, it would have been conquered and colonized by the same European powers

      At this stage, except for neighboring Poland, Russia did not represent any interest in conquering for what: what would be the wax to get?
      Is this some kind of "propaganda" theory? Before Nazi Germany, whose plans included the direct transformation of part of Russia into a colony, no one was puzzled by such a goal: the Poles during the Time of Troubles, which was a common occurrence between neighbors in the Middle Ages (England and France, for example) and Charles XII, and then to take away from Russia only part of the land of interest to him.
      That's all - no one had such plans to conquer Russia, even Napoleon, who burned Moscow, had.
      But that military threat, which still seemed extremely serious, so they took it and ruined the entire European part in 1812!, forced the feudal state to make efforts to modernize.
      hi
      1. -3
        6 September 2023 11: 56
        Russia was not of any interest, to win for what: what would be the wax to get?
        Then why did the Tatar-Mongols need it? wink
    2. +6
      6 September 2023 09: 26
      it would have been conquered and colonized by the same European powers before America, Africa and Asia.
      Do not invent. If Russia was interested then, it was only as a transit country through which the path to India lay, and even then it was quite long, and Russia was not a producer of oriental spices, silk fabrics, gold, silver, precious stones were not mined, which Europe was most interested in the moment. Why did the Portuguese go to India around Africa, and not through Europe and Russia?
      1. -2
        6 September 2023 12: 04
        Do not invent. If Russia was interested then, it was only as a transit country through which the path to India lay, and then it was quite long
        Then why did the European powers set up colonies in the Americas and not move right on to India?
        And if you remember, the British were also looking for a northern route to India.
        1. +2
          6 September 2023 12: 23
          why did the European powers set up colonies in the Americas instead of passing straight on to India?
          Do you remember geography? The Portuguese paved the way to India, around Africa, while they were paving the way, establishing colonies on the African coast. they were still far from the rulers of the seas, they realized that the Spaniards had nothing to do in America, although they mastered the North, the traditional route was closed by the Portuguese, then the Portuguese were stronger than ever, they decided to look for another way, stumbled upon Russia. The Portuguese founded a colony in India , because they were reasonable people and understood that they could not conquer India. With the weakening of Portugal, in India, English and French colonies began to appear.
          1. -4
            6 September 2023 16: 29
            Do you remember geography?
            And I remember geography and I remember the school history course. Only now, and none of the clever people here answered me, if Rus' was backward, not developed and not needed by anyone, then why during the entire time of its existence so many different peoples tried to conquer its territories and conquer the peoples inhabiting it? And as history shows, it is the weak and undeveloped who are conquered in the first place, because the weak cannot fight back. And if Rus' existed at that time, this only says one thing, that it was in no way inferior to its opponents, either economically or militarily.
            1. +2
              7 September 2023 12: 29
              You yourself answered the question
              Quote: Gomunkul
              if Rus' was backward, not developed and no one needs

              In general, no one really needed it.
              Quote: Gomunkul
              And as history shows, it is the weak and undeveloped that are conquered in the first place

              History shows that the first to conquer, those who have something to take and who are easy to reach.
              Think for yourself, which of the great powers of that time needed to capture Moscow?
              Spaniards? Sorry, what the heck? They actively explored America, which had a lot of tasty things and was not so difficult to get to.
              French? English? It’s easier for both of them to steal from the Spaniards ...
              Again, there is such a beast as logistics. It is inconvenient to deliver enemy armies to us. Even in the XNUMXth century, steamships and the like did not work out very well.
              Here, the Poles and Crimeans had the opportunity to bring the army under the walls of the Mother See. And they did it regularly while they were in power. But it did not grow together, not least because they did not really surpass us.
              Something like that.
        2. +9
          6 September 2023 12: 23
          Then why did the European powers set up colonies in the Americas and not move right on to India?
          And if you remember, the British were also looking for a northern route to India.

          Because, as they taught at school, geography was only developing as a science. Columbus believed he had discovered India with the Indians, not America with the Americans. laughing
          They guessed and knew about the route to India through Russia, but the risks of moving cargo by land could not be compared with sea trips.
          And now how is it with us with a direct overland route from India to Russia? laughing
          1. +6
            6 September 2023 12: 28
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            And now how is it with us with a direct overland route from India to Russia?

            I think we should ask Afanasy Nikitin... laughing
            Pavel Petrovich was also in the know ... wassat
            Well, from a time closer to us - Zhirinovsky knew for sure ... hi
          2. -3
            7 September 2023 09: 29
            Because as they taught at school
            Did you say you studied at school? It is commendable. Then here's an example from a school course for you, let's not delve into the jungle of the Middle Ages, let's take Tsarist Russia in 1913, it was also considered backward compared to Europe, weapons were also purchased in European countries, although there were their own.
            But here's the incident, under the USSR with its developed industry and science, for some reason they always compared the economy with Tsarist Russia in 1913.
            And I would like to hear more about the risks of moving goods, otherwise the facts you state do not agree with you, then geography as a science was just in its infancy, and in another case, transportation by sea turns out to be less risky than by land. Don't get in the habit of making fun of your opponent based only on your high school history course.
            And yes, if you are such a know-it-all, you must remember that until a certain time the Aristotle-Ptolemaic system of the world structure dominated the world, and its opponents were persecuted and ridiculed. wink
            1. -1
              7 September 2023 09: 49
              Quote: Gomunkul
              the facts you state do not agree with you, then geography as a science was just in its infancy, and in another case, transportation by sea turns out to be less risky than by land.

              I see no contradiction, the main movement of goods was and is carried out by water.
  7. 0
    6 September 2023 08: 27
    Firstly, it took place in the conditions of early feudalism, with the corresponding mental representations, where in a Christian society borrowing could lead to the loss of the soul, as in the case of tobacco, when it was allowed and then banned.
    Early feudalism is not the destiny of Kievan Rus before its collapse.
    The example with tobacco is extremely unfortunate; heroin and cocaine were also first allowed and then banned.
    1. +3
      6 September 2023 11: 28
      Early feudalism is Kievan Rus before the collapse into destinies.
      In the school textbook, in short, it is written.
  8. +1
    6 September 2023 08: 54
    "What is traditionally called in historiography and journalism "modernization" in the XNUMXth century was in fact "total borrowing."
    Well, a very strange thesis, like "this is on red, but perpendicular." Yes, and borrowing is spoken of disdainfully, as something shameful, but that Stalin's industrialization was not total borrowing?
    1. +5
      6 September 2023 09: 43
      Yes, and borrowing is spoken of disparagingly, as something shameful,

      Where does it say so?
      Do not attribute your fantasies to others.
      1. 0
        6 September 2023 10: 23
        I took this from the structure of the phrase, which contrasts "modernization", which is traditionally referred to in historiography as something positive "total borrowing", i.e. something not so positive. Not this way?
        1. +7
          6 September 2023 10: 40
          those. something not so positive. Not this way?

          No.
          I wanted to say or show the difference between the terms “modernization” and “borrowing” without putting evaluative concepts into them.
          In both cases, for me personally, this is a positive phenomenon: simply put, our state would not exist, or it would exist, but it would be very sad.
          The only difference is that “modernization” (update) is when something improves, but in the areas that I am writing about, there was nothing to improve.
          What remains behind the article: the government tried in the late 10s. to create “manufactures” themselves, to somehow unite artisans, but nothing came of it: there was no knowledge or technology. The Tsar understood that a lot of money was spent on weapons, which I wrote about here, and it was better to produce them ourselves: but how? Therefore, the Dutch proposals had to go to court.
          Second, formally Russia did not lag behind, it was at its stage of development, the beginning of feudalism (You criticized this in the commentary, but read all the works in the series, I will not repeat myself) and neither the West had any technologies at this stage in the 10-13th centuries. , neither Russia simply could have had it. It’s just that Rus' entered the path of historical development later: 5-6 centuries later about the mentioned west with the “barbarian kingdoms”. I didn’t come up with this: I repeat, read the articles in the series - there is information there about modern research on this topic.
          Although the term "modernization" is commonly used. And, more applicable to the Stalinist modernization you mentioned, in the Republic of Ingushetia there were some, but still production. In the 17th century there was nothing in this area except the Moscow sovereign workshops, the rest were artisans (with specialization and zoning). Yes, even the Khamovniks from Kadashikha (a settlement near the Kremlin), no matter how hard they fought, could not make canvas fabric.
          It’s one thing to turn the Obukhov plant into the Obukhov defense or the considerable Putilovsky plant (selected into the treasury of the 1st World War) into the giant Kirovsky, and another thing to turn a blacksmith and a metal worker into a manufactory)))
          hi
          1. +1
            6 September 2023 11: 23
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            Second, formally Russia did not lag behind, it was at its stage of development, the beginning of feudalism

            Great, but at what stage was Rus' under Ivan Kalita?
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            and neither the West at this stage in the 10-13 centuries, nor Russia simply could have any technologies

            Do you like to endow commonly used words with some original meaning? Technology is a way to achieve the desired result and it is everywhere where there is a person - stone axes were made according to a certain technology.

            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            Yes, even Khamovniks from Kadashikha (a settlement near the Kremlin), no matter how much they fought, they could not make canvas fabric.

            Was such a task posed?
            1. +6
              6 September 2023 12: 36
              Great, but at what stage was Rus' under Ivan Kalita?

              It's lovely, read the articles in this series, then you'll figure it out.
              Yes, even Khamovniks from Kadashikha (a settlement near the Kremlin), no matter how much they fought, they could not make canvas fabric.
              Was such a task posed?

              Yes. When the "Eagle" was being built, the question arose about this, I had to buy it in Holland.
              Technologies

              You are not a philologist or a linguist, as I understand it, you are not particularly familiar with scientific historiography on the issue of modernization? why then strange statements and gag? Technology is not only "skill", but also scientific and practical knowledge for production, you probably heard from the media: in modern Russia there are no microchip production technologies, is this an original way of using the word or a standard one?
              laughing
              1. 0
                6 September 2023 15: 10
                Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                It's lovely, read the articles in this series, then you'll figure it out.

                I read something. The conclusion is disappointing - apart from the desire to overthrow the "outdated views of historians of the 20th century," he did not find anything.
                Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                and also scientific and practical knowledge for production, probably heard from the media: in modern Russia there are no technologies for the production of microchips, is this an original way of using the word or a standard one?

                In this format, this is a lie, since microchips are developed and produced in Russia.
    2. +6
      6 September 2023 09: 52
      and that Stalin's industrialization was not a total borrowing?
      Yes, by and large. And what if tsarist Russia was doing the same? But you forget that there was something else in Stalin’s borrowing, based on what they borrowed, they tried to develop their own and let’s not forget that already in 1918, it was created 25 research institutes that never existed.
  9. +8
    6 September 2023 09: 15
    smile Well, you swung at it, about the "borrowing" and "lag" of Russia to write in the conditions of early feudalism. Commentators don’t take this formation into account. I’ve already read the comments. They don’t want to understand that in Europe, perhaps since the XNUMXth century, early capitalist relations have been developing, although even earlier, feudalism is dying out, and in Russia, it is just beginning to develop. Hence borrowing and lagging behind. It also comes from there: Why produce our own, we will buy everything and there could not be any targeted modernization of the economy and production at that time. For example. The same West. the quality of fabrics, they launched the production of mirrors, porcelain and a lot of things that were very expensive, namely luxury goods and the budget began to replenish rapidly. But it was a targeted, step-by-step program, and France was at a different stage of development, the transition from feudalism to capitalism. They could afford it. Russia, at the stage of development at which it was, no.
    1. +5
      6 September 2023 09: 36
      Well, you swung at it, about the "borrowing" and "lag" of Russia to write in the conditions of early feudalism.

      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      1. +8
        6 September 2023 11: 36
        Eduard, you know, it seems that your articles are not for everyone. Many commentators write in the style of the hero of V. Shukshin's story "Cut off." "... How do you personally feel about the problem of shamanism in certain regions of the North?" (c) laughing
        1. +8
          6 September 2023 11: 45
          Quote: kor1vet1974
          Edward, you know, it seems that your articles are not for everyone

          Many draw their "knowledge" from such publications:

          Photographed at the newsstand hi
          1. +8
            6 September 2023 11: 49
            Many draw their "knowledge" from such publications.
            Yes, yes..probably... hi smile
          2. +7
            6 September 2023 12: 41
            Aha! Russian tsars are abusers and deviant behavior of general secretaries laughing
        2. +5
          6 September 2023 12: 42
          How do you personally feel about the problem of shamanism in certain regions of the North?"

          ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  10. +5
    6 September 2023 10: 04
    Thanks Edward!

    The history of pharmaceutical gardens is also interesting. Their history, perhaps, begins from the monastery.

    And then there were no foreigners. Belts (herbalists) harvested medicinal raw materials with difficulty.

    And our medical history includes such interesting people as Nicholas Bidloo.
    1. +7
      6 September 2023 10: 50
      And our medical history includes such interesting people as Nicholas Bidloo.

      Thanks Sergey,
      Good afternoon,
      What is true is true.
      In terms of technology, monasteries were their centers throughout the post-Mongol period. The same Solovetsky, his well-known abbot Philip Kolychev, received his farm destroyed due to poor management, established production and fishing, built, for example, several (!) water mills, as for the XNUMXth century. it was a miracle.
      As for pharmacy, there really was “folk medicine”, but at the same time professional medicine and pharmaceuticals were developing with might and main in Europe. And this was all tied to education; even in the Czech Republic, a university was opened at the end of the XNUMXth century. And here in the XNUMXth century. just a scientific wasteland.
  11. +4
    6 September 2023 10: 36
    Due to the lack of silver, the government purchased silver (Russian “efimki”, thalers) abroad and exchanged coins.

    With the help of such a simple procedure, a taler with a nominal value of 46 kopecks. turned into efimok with a nominal value of 64 kopecks. Sleight of hand and no fraud! laughing
    Good afternoon, Edward! hi
  12. +4
    6 September 2023 10: 43
    With an extreme shortage of funds, purchases of high-quality iron and items made from it were made abroad at an inflated price. Thus, in Sweden, the merchant K. Demoulin purchased guns worth 17 thousand rubles.

    I remembered the now well-known bronze gun, cast in 1615, with the inscription:
    "MAGNO DOMINI TZARI ET MAGNO DVCI MICHAELI FOEDROWITSOMNIVM VRSORVM." "To the Great Sovereign, Tsar and Grand Duke Mikhail Fedorovich, lord of all bears" laughing
  13. +2
    6 September 2023 10: 44
    “On top of everything, Russia simply did not have its own money, that is, of course, there was a name, and there were exchange units, but there was no issue” - the concept of issue refers to paper money. But most countries did not have their own silver and recoining was the most common thing. .
    1. +6
      6 September 2023 11: 22
      But most countries did not have their own silver, and re-coining was the most common thing. .

      This is from a series of kindergarten logic: Why didn’t you fulfill the plan? - And in America, blacks are lynched.
      In this article, one of many in this series, we are talking only about Russia.
      And in other countries there was and is borrowing and modernization, and there is no silver, oil, gas and something else ...
      But everyone is responsible for their own actions. And then what kind of kindergarten turns out: why are you throwing cubes at Lena, and Petya also threw yesterday.
      Forgivable for children laughing ...
      1. +1
        6 September 2023 11: 39
        At the end of the XNUMXth century, the craftsmen still continued to mint coins. Under Mikhail Fedorovich, money yards appeared in four cities. The masters of these courts worked on royal salaries. Two heads ruled the yards: one of the boyar children, the other of the guests. They were attached to several kissers from the townspeople.

        Under Alexei Mikhailovich, money yards were in Novgorod, Moscow and Pskov. They were ruled by a nobleman and a clerk, and elected heads and kissers were attached to them. During the minting of copper money in the same cities, copper money yards were established. By the end of the XNUMXth century, the money yard remained only in Moscow.

        Russia did not have its own mining of gold and silver; foreign trade remained the only source of these metals. Precious metals were purchased in the form of ingots, jewelry, and also in the form of foreign coins, which were then considered primarily as a commodity. Foreign coins were accepted at cash yards, where they were converted into Russian scales, and starting from the middle of the XNUMXth century, the merchants were obliged to purchase all available silver “for the king”, that is, for subsequent sale at the mint.

        A unique phenomenon is the short-term issue of the so-called "efimki with signs" - the overmarking of a foreign silver coin (taller) with special hallmarks for its subsequent release into circulation. This was a desperate measure aimed at overcoming the archaism of money production, but the experiment was unsuccessful, and the old system of completely converting coins into scales had to be returned.
      2. +2
        6 September 2023 11: 48
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        one of many of this cycle, we are talking only about Russia.

        once again - the word issue refers to paper money, and there was a minting of silver coins in Russia.
        1. +5
          6 September 2023 13: 08
          once again - the word issue refers to paper money, and there was a minting of silver coins in Russia.

          once again - emission, this is the issue of money. But in Hong Kong they issue polyethylene banknotes, is this not an issue anymore?
  14. +4
    6 September 2023 12: 42
    Thanks to the author for a very informative and scientific article. I hope there will be a continuation.
    1. +5
      6 September 2023 13: 37
      I hope there will be a continuation.

      Thank you!
      Yes, the sequel is already done.
  15. +1
    6 September 2023 13: 50
    In XNUMXth-century Russia, reforms, or what is traditionally called modernization, were on the agenda.

    And there was only one way: to borrow.


    Everything is correct. It remains to answer a couple of questions:

    1.WHY REFORMS AND MODERNIZATION ARE ON THE AGENDA IN RUSSIA SINCE THE XNUMXTH CENTURY?!
    2. AND WHY IT IS MANDATORY BORROW ALREADY 400 YEARS?!

    What is so special about the Western system of education and science that allows them to lead the technology of half a millennium.

    It would be nice if the author answered this question in the following publications. wink
    1. Fat
      +7
      6 September 2023 14: 38
      Quote: Arzt
      It remains to answer a couple of questions:

      1. WHY IS REFORMS AND MODERNIZATION ON THE AGENDA IN RUSSIA SINCE THE XNUMXTH CENTURY?!
      2. And WHY SHOULD IT BE OBLIGATORY TO BORROW FOR 400 YEARS?!

      What is so special about the Western system of education and science that allows them to lead the technology of half a millennium.

      It would be nice if the author answered this question in the following publications.

      hi
      Why torment the author with answers to children's questions?
      1. Modernization - the process of bringing the state of the "object" in line with modern requirements. At least in production this is the case.
      2. Borrowing reduces R&D time. "Ancient Rome" throughout its existence adopted all the best from all sorts of opponents.
      in the period from the VIII century BC. (foundation of the city of Rome) until the fall of the Western Roman Empire in the 1300th century... XNUMX years.
      It’s better to learn from other people’s mistakes, your own ones are still formed laughing laughing
      There is nothing special and incomprehensible in the Western system. The Soviet system of education and organization of science was in many ways more efficient.
      The first Russian university took place in the 18th century, and the European one in the 11th! request
      1. -1
        6 September 2023 19: 30
        Quote: Arzt
        It remains to answer a couple of questions:

        1. WHY IS REFORMS AND MODERNIZATION ON THE AGENDA IN RUSSIA SINCE THE XNUMXTH CENTURY?!
        2. And WHY SHOULD IT BE OBLIGATORY TO BORROW FOR 400 YEARS?!

        What is so special about the Western system of education and science that allows them to lead the technology of half a millennium.

        It would be nice if the author answered this question in the following publications.

        hi
        Why torment the author with answers to children's questions?
        1. Modernization - the process of bringing the state of the "object" in line with modern requirements. At least in production this is the case.
        2. Borrowing reduces R&D time. "Ancient Rome" throughout its existence adopted all the best from all sorts of opponents.
        in the period from the VIII century BC. (foundation of the city of Rome) until the fall of the Western Roman Empire in the 1300th century... XNUMX years.
        It’s better to learn from other people’s mistakes; your own are still formed laughing laughing
        There is nothing special and incomprehensible in the Western system. The Soviet system of education and organization of science was in many ways more efficient.
        The first Russian university took place in the 18th century, and the European one in the 11th!

        What modernization is is clear. This children's question has an answer on Wiki.
        There is no answer to the question of why we have been catching up for 4 centuries.
        Why aren't we leading the race?

        By borrowing - is this our strategic course? laughing Let them spend there, create, and let our scouts steal and oops! We're in the ladies. And the technology is there and the money is intact.
        But it doesn't work. You won’t see any Novgorod-made iPhones, and the money is also in shambles. One Apple costs as much as 3 Russian budgets. This is before SVO.

        There is also some confusion about the system. You noted correctly with our universities, but it is not clear why, for example, American universities outshone Europe. They actually started from bare prairies.

        As for the largely effective Soviet system, I would like to understand more specifically. In what ways? Did computers create or stealth technologies or discover the structure of DNA?
        Why did they rush to study in the States, and not to us? What to fix at the conservatory? winked

        Questions, such questions...
        1. +1
          6 September 2023 20: 10
          An eccentric starting with the letter "m" and asking questions starting with the letter "m"
          1. Fat
            +3
            6 September 2023 21: 47
            Quote: ee2100
            An eccentric starting with the letter "m" and asking questions starting with the letter "m"

            It's so boring it's even sad... recourse I don’t even remember that P.L. Kapitsa was "bursting" at MIT, he worked at Rutherford's laboratory, there was a case ... But otherwise, Arzt's colleague is not interested in answers to his questions, as there are rhetorical ones ... And yes ... NASA launched the first artificial satellite and Gagarin! Away with all doubts fellow wassat
            1. +2
              7 September 2023 10: 41
              It's so boring it's even sad... recourse Chet can't remember P.L. Kapitsa was "bursting" at MIT, he worked at Rutherford's laboratory, there was a case ... But otherwise, Arzt's colleague is not interested in answers to his questions, as there are rhetorical ones ... And yes ... NASA launched the first artificial satellite and Gagarin! Away with all doubts fellow wassat

              "It was the case", yeah. laughing 13 years in Cambridge, where he took place as a scientist, received a laboratory, defended himself. Then the couple decided to go to St. Petersburg for the congress, but here he stayed. Himself, of course. wink

              You are bored and sad because you do not have a scientific mindset. If you had an inquisitive mind of a scientist, you would ask yourself why Kapitsa is in Cambridge, and not Rutherford at Moscow State University, why the R-1 is a copy of the V-2, why the Tupolev Tu-4 is a copy of the Jordan B-29, and not vice versa and why now we still have a tourniquet, and they already have a turnstile.
              Despite the fact that the "scientists" here - a dime a dozen. laughing
              1. Fat
                +3
                7 September 2023 13: 22
                Quote: Arzt
                You would ask yourself why Kapitsa is in Cambridge, and not Rutherford at Moscow State University, why the R-1 is a copy of the V-2, why the Tupolev Tu-4 is a copy of the Jordan B-29, and not vice versa, and why now we still have a tourniquet, but they already turnstile.

                I do not ask these questions for a simple reason. I already figured out the answers to these questions for myself. laughing
                I don't see much point in imposing my conclusions on anyone.
                PS R-1 is not a copy of the V-2, but its more successful modification, created by German rocket scientists under the leadership of S.P. Queen. There were no whole samples of V-2 at the disposal of the Korolev Design Bureau Yes
          2. +2
            7 September 2023 11: 20
            An eccentric starting with the letter "m" and asking questions starting with the letter "m"

            Like a wise man asks wise questions? laughing

            In fact, the thought of the importance of science and, as a result, the technological level of the country is on the surface. But for some reason, of our rulers, only Peter I and Stalin understood this.

            But still, I want to dream: if 20 years ago, 2 thousand dollars a month were not for contract workers, but for young scientists, 300 yards not for foreign "assets", but for thermonuclear fusion, robotics and cellular technologies, well, 50 Heroes of Labor RF to the best scientists. (Required for the real results of the work!).

            Maybe then the usual Heroes of the Russian Federation would not have to be distributed? Why are they robots? wink
            1. Fat
              +2
              7 September 2023 13: 37
              Quote: Arzt
              In fact, the thought of the importance of science and, as a result, the technological level of the country is on the surface. But for some reason, of our rulers, only Peter I and Stalin understood this.

              I.V. Stalin? Alas, it was the personal negative attitude of the Supreme Commander towards "genetics" and "cybernetics" that led to the fact that these areas did not develop in the first place, although analog computers were used in the USSR as early as 1936 ...
              PS Your dreams are very nice to me. Sincerely. wink
  16. +6
    6 September 2023 13: 53
    Something that I did not find in the article or seemed debatable.

    For me, the 17th century in the Russian state is very indicative of the fact that construction begins and the transition to a mixed army, and the feudal militia is losing ground before our eyes.
    In the first half of the century there was an attempt to create a professional army in parallel with the existing one. It was generally unsuccessful due to lack of finances. In the second half, the recruitment of militias, forced and voluntary, became more widespread. In fact, the militia was reborn again in the form of "fighting and gathering." The very path that Europe began in the 13th-14th century and which existed even under the Carolingians.
    It turns out that having reached its peak in the 16th century (Polotsk campaign), the feudal militia falls into a very rapid decline quantitatively and qualitatively. In the second half of the 17th century, the Russian army was already predominantly non-feudal.
    Again and again we are faced with a phenomenon that, in my opinion, has not received appreciation and recognition from the author. The feudal army fails and becomes part of the system. Recruitment is conducted on different principles, including other principles that are different from feudalism. If the feudal militia has lost its leading position quantitatively and qualitatively, is it worth calling such an army feudal?

    Second key question. Were Russia's failures the result of subjective or objective reasons? The issue must be clearly linked to the results of Peter's reign.

    I do not claim to know the answer to this question, but the author's explanation of failures seems unconvincing to me.

    Firstly, it took place in the conditions of early feudalism, with the corresponding mental representations, where in a Christian society borrowing could lead to the loss of the soul, as in the case of tobacco, when it was allowed and then banned.

    Peter the Great forced everyone to smoke and shave their beards for a maximum of 15 years. Is it worth exaggerating the importance of this factor?
    Secondly, in the period when both the management system and taxation were just being built, hence the leapfrog in units or objects of taxation, intensified by extraordinary and indirect taxes, despite the abundance of the country, according to foreigners, this was the heaviest burden for the draft population, taxpayers .

    Leapfrog leapfrog, but during the reign of Peter the tax burden doubled (Milov's calculation). It is not possible to directly correlate both systems, but there is no reason to believe that in the period preceding Peter, it was higher
    For the managers of the period of the medieval mentality, this institution was not seen as an abstract “state institution”, but as a place for personal gain, similar to the institution of feeding. Such institutions, developing gradually, of course, would have reached the required level, but not in the face of external threats, which Russia had. And this must be clearly understood.

    Looks subjective, can be applied to any country in any era.
    The last key point was the fact that, with full awareness of the importance of borrowing technology, this activity was far from the main one for the monarch, it was entrusted to individual figures, and the kings continued to rule in the old way, live in the old way, think in the old way, as if without the control of the first faces these changes had to occur on their own.

    An interesting, but largely seditious conclusion. It turns out the role of the king (or his inaction) was a key factor. Peter appeared and all the feudal dregs were broken at the knee?

    On the little things
    The European knight was formed in battle conditions using exclusively edged weapons, fought, in fact, alone, which imposed a certain style of behavior on the feudal lords and formed a knightly ethics, mentality, with all the ensuing consequences.

    Knights have not fought alone "in essence" or in any other way since at least the 12th century. I already wrote about this. Very detailed review of Verbruggen
    1. +3
      6 September 2023 15: 11
      Again and again we are faced with a phenomenon that, in my opinion, has not received appreciation and recognition from the author. The feudal army fails and becomes part of the system

      Why didn't you get it? as the author says:
      The system of the feudal militia, which had just been formed with such difficulty in a natural way, no longer met the requirements of modern warfare.
      1. +3
        6 September 2023 15: 20
        Because there is only a statement of the fact of discrepancy, but the key point is missed - the feudal system began to be supplemented and replaced. And since the second half of the century, its actual dismantling in the army has already begun. The “local cavalry” began to be transferred to reiters, dragoons, and sometimes to soldiers.
        I repeat again. The army of the first half of the 17th century was not feudal, but mixed, and from the second half it was a reincarnation of the militia with individual elements of “constancy”.
        1. +5
          6 September 2023 17: 48
          I repeat again. The army of the first half of the 17th century was not feudal, but mixed

          If we assume that the feudal army is exclusively a rider galloping ahead of the horse. laughing
          Denis,
          I greet you.
          As always, thank you for your opinion.
          To be continued, I won’t get ahead of myself.
          I note that your arguments contain a major methodological error, inherent in a number of European authors who consider the development of feudalism one-sidedly, through the prism of an exclusively classical military organization under feudalism, which you call regressive laughing
          Feudalism arose only as a system derived from military-economic conditions: conditional land use for service. As a consequence, social change occurs when feudalism is a system where there is a class of feudal lords and a class of peasants, some exploit others, forms of exploitation do not have to be exclusively serfdom (close to slavery), in France on the eve of the revolution there was no serfdom, but different forms of feudal exploitation (in the form of tradition) were present. Do we remember Beaumarchais and the right of the first night in Figaro’s marriage?
          At the same time, the format of military service may change under the influence of military technologies. The knight turned into a “sad figure,” as Hidalgo Cervantes wrote to us about in the 16th century.
          The same is true in Russia; militarily, the feudal militia, without having time to develop, began to become obsolete under the pressure of the “military revolution.” Ivan the Terrible and Polotsk are not the peak of the noble militia, but the beginning; the local militia was only formed in the XNUMXth century.

          But, I repeat, the “gun revolution” left no chance for the noble militia itself; in the case of Russia, the “self-sufficiency” of the noble militia significantly influenced its existence until the beginning of the XNUMXth century. But the regiments of the new system, recruited from willing people, supported this militia.
          Is Spain of this period a feudal country? Is the France of the “grocer and the cardinal” feudal? What is the military system like? Italy at this time? Although historians see the sprouts of early bourgeois relations in Italy from the XNUMXth century.
          So in Russia, I’m getting ahead of myself, the country remains feudal, there is such a term in Russian historiography - “noble dictatorship” for the 100th century, and the formation of the army is based on the corresponding principles necessary in war. But the very structure of the Russian army, European in form, remained feudal in content: nobleman-officer, serf-soldier in the XNUMXth century. XNUMX%
          Because the social structure is determined by the ruling class, and not by the military structure, which in the case of feudalism influenced only its emergence.
          hi
          PS all the regiments of the new system and reiters and dragoons, all this is present, which does not abolish feudalism. In a footnote to the article, I have all the new research on this issue listed. But it never occurred to any of the authors to say that the introduction of regiments of the new system dismantled the feudal system!
          It dismantled the local militia - yes, but not the feudal system, because it is broader than just the form of army organization.
          1. +2
            6 September 2023 22: 40
            Good afternoon,

            I note that your arguments contain a major methodological error, inherent in a number of European authors who consider the development of feudalism one-sidedly, through the prism of an exclusively classical military organization under feudalism, which you call regressive

            I do not consider this approach one-sided and its advantages will be shown below.
            The transition to feudalism was a kind of catastrophe that Europe overcame for several centuries. The knighthood monopolized military affairs, pushing everyone else aside. At the same time, an absolute increase in combat capability did not occur or occurred to a minimal extent. Against the background of the peasantry, who had completely lost their military skills, the feudal lords looked like celestials, but in general their fighting qualities were contradictory. The Battle of Hastings, where the feudal militia met the old system - the squad plus the still combat-ready peasant militia (fird) did not show any advantages of the new system. Moreover, the knights failed on their own field - as shock troops, having received twice in frontal attacks.
            In economic and social terms, feudalism was an even greater disaster - yesterday's communal warrior, subject of law, was reduced to the status of cattle. Economic ties have become simpler - everything has become confined to the territory of the lord, and business activity has decreased.

            Feudalism is a crutch, when they decided to fix the system of "fighting and equipping" with nails, fixing certain roles forever.

            Naturally, the knights themselves were not enough to conduct successful military operations, and over time, in addition to the knights, a militia of peasants and townspeople emerged, recruited on a territorial basis with a census division and the obligation of those remaining to provide for those going on the campaign. Militia militia. A renaissance of "fighting and equipping". I wrote about this several times.
            In the new armies, knights could constitute an insignificant part (the Scots under Bannockburn) or even an absolute minority (the Flemings and the Swiss). Therefore, in such cases, it is legitimate to talk about mixed armies or simply about militias.

            Taking the position of a narrow, military understanding of feudalism, we will see very similar processes in Russia. I consider the Polotsk campaign to be the peak because it was then that the maximum number of local troops was reached. Never again did so many people go on a campaign. Moreover, as a percentage of the fighting slaves, they made up almost 2/3 of the army.
            But already during the Smolensk War, the feudal militia that set out on the campaign was quantitatively and qualitatively inferior to the regiments of the new system and mercenaries (in total, more than half of Shein’s army). So who was “supporting” whom?

            Further more
            According to Velikanov
            the latest published estimates refer to the years 1661-1663, but they are also incomplete. According to my estimate, the payroll could reach 120-150 thousand people, but in reality the figure was probably 2 times less. The local cavalry numbered about 15-20 thousand people, there were 25-30 Reiter regiments, and probably 35-40 soldier regiments. According to the states, each regiment is a thousand reitar or soldiers, but if we take the data published by Veselovsky for 1662-1663, then the shortage was more than 50%. The rest are archers and various military people of the "city service", i.e. garrison.

            https://polit.ru/article/2013/10/06/velikanov/
            The local cavalry now accounted for only 12-15 percent of the payroll, and over a hundred years its number has only decreased.
            Fighting qualities also steadily fell. Everyone who wanted to fight signed up for the reiters to serve for a salary, and the poorer ones - for the dragoons.
            During the Russian-Polish War of 1654-1667, there was a process of transition from service for a salary to service for a territorial recruitment. The local cavalry simply dissolves in the mass of the militia.
            Moreover, the Swedish army was organized in a very similar way.
            From the same article
            The Swedish army was recruited by two main methods, mercenary recruitment and the "indelta", or provincial militia. ...
            In peacetime, only mercenary units performing garrison service were in service. but starting from the reign of Gustav Adolf, the nobles received the right to put a deputy in service in their place, and by the middle of the 1699th century the noble militias were transformed into ordinary Reiter regiments, the only difference of which was their maintenance at the expense of the nobility. In case of war, the clergy and tenants had to pay at a certain rate for equipment and maintenance of the so-called. "estate" dragoons. For example, in 36 the Swedish army consisted of 21 infantry regiments, of which only 5 out of 16 provincial regiments were mobilized. The cavalry consisted of 10 Reiter regiments (including 5 provincial) and 6 regiments and 3 squadrons of dragoons (all recruited and class), and several more small parts. Of these, only 2 recruited Reitar and XNUMX recruited Dragoon regiments were mobilized.

            Again a militia on a territorial basis, again the upper class - nobles serve primarily in the “elite” Reiter units. Again, “fighting and equipping.”

            So, by choosing a “narrow,” military definition of feudalism, we identified general patterns inherent in different countries and in different eras. At the same time, they realized that there is no fundamental difference between the armies of Russia and Sweden, and successes and failures should receive a deeper explanation than the simple statement “Russia has feudalism and hence the problems.” I think it's quite fruitful.

            Well, all sorts of feudal remnants in the form of "the right of the first night", etc., should not embarrass or distract us. The essence of analysis is to identify facts that correspond to a specific task. Yes, feudalism left a legacy of estates. Well, he left them in advanced England, where officer positions in the army were the lot of gentlemen until the First World War. What to do? Determine the place of each phenomenon in the overall picture. General explanations “we have feudalism, and this is bad, already outdated”, I repeat, do not answer the research questions.
  17. +1
    7 September 2023 14: 52
    I read everything carefully - a good article, with a continuation.

    Without Peter 1 with his reforms, Russia was waiting for the fate of the Chinese empire (endless unrest, division and robbery by foreign powers).

    I wonder - could Peter not have appeared in Russia at all? And then what - a boyar monarchy (an option - a "republic" like the Seven Boyars) with stupid duma clerks, corrupt clerks in orders? A country without universities, doctors, without secular schools, without a combat-ready army (the Narva defeat is the beginning of the Petrine era).

    I remember that in Soviet schools and universities they taught historical materialism according to Marx and Engels. One of the main theses - a great person appears where and when needed (about the role of personality in history) - exceptions to this rule were not considered. Although there are a lot of examples when a sensible leader was oh so needed by some country - but he took it and did not appear ...
    1. -1
      11 September 2023 00: 48
      Strange judgments..... How is it “he took it and didn’t show up?”
      Is it possible that in a superheated liquid the first bubble, from which boiling begins, “may not appear”? This is only repeated a million times in our media: “and for whom else?..”
      As if among a hundred million people there is not a single reasonable boss to replace the current one.

      Many appear. And they put pressure on many. But one day the number of those who appeared becomes greater than the number of those killed and those who left the distance of their struggle.
  18. 0
    17 September 2023 10: 57
    “Cannon Yard on Neglinnaya” - as if the painting was not the same, they put another one?