Saiga PPK: A new civilian carbine chambered for a pistol cartridge

The Saiga PPK is a civilian pistol-caliber carbine developed by the Kalashnikov Concern based on the PPK-20 submachine gun. The carbine works on a free shutter and is "sharpened" chambered for 9x19 mm.

He spoke about the features of the novelty weapons expert Konstantin Lazarev.

According to him, there are a lot of differences from the same Saiga-9. By and large, these are two completely different carbines.

Unlike its predecessor, the Saiga PPK received a PPK-20 buttstock folding to the right side, outwardly resembling an AK-12 buttstock (it differs in size), which somewhat increased the convenience when transporting the carbine and storing it in a small safe.

The anatomical pistol grip is integrated with the trigger guard and, again, is similar to that used in the new AK-12.

At the same time, according to the expert, a new flag fuse became an excellent solution in the Saiga PPK. With him, unlike the "Kalashnikov poker", it is convenient to work with one finger. There are two modes - safe and shooting.

The receiver of the store has not undergone any changes.

At the same time, the carbine received a new receiver cover with a new "diopter" that will be installed on all modern types of weapons from the Kalashnikov concern.

The Saiga PPK has a single sighting line, on which it will be possible to install a fairly long sighting system, from a collimator to a thermal imaging sight.

In addition, the civilian carbine received a new handguard with Picatinny rails on top and bottom as standard. The design of this element is such that, unlike its counterpart in Saiga-9, it does not come into contact with the barrel.

By the way, the latter has a standard thread, which allows you to install almost any muzzle compensator.

Finally, Lazarev noted that the main differences between the Saiga PPK and a combat submachine gun are dimensions, the inability to shoot with a folded butt and bursts.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

New civilian carbine for pistol cartridge

"Oh, what a subtle perversion ..." (from an indecent joke)
Civilian, with bursts of fire?

[Elysium]

"Finally, Lazarev noted that the main differences between the Saiga PPK and a combat submachine gun are dimensions, the inability to shoot with a folded stock and bursts."
But a smoothbore for a pistol cartridge ...

[novel66]

But.... What the heck?? What should they do? Raise self-esteem?

[Nexcom]

I saw him in shooting ranges and even managed to shoot him. No, not from the latest version that is being talked about here.
From the previous one. The machine is purely on targets and cans to peel. Who will go hunting with such and on whom? Well, maybe someone is hunting with such a thing - I'm not a hunter, but there are doubts about the purpose of this thing.

[faiver]

Who will go hunting with such and on whom?

- shoot stray dogs

[Rumata]

I don’t understand Nichrome in the shooter, but isn’t it a hybrid of a hedgehog and a snake?
If this is a hunting weapon, then is the range and accuracy of a pistol bullet not small? Hunters need something more like a sniper to "squirrel in the eye."
This canoe is probably only effective indoors?)))

[Smoked]

Firstly, this is a legal way to do something for the miserable Russian civilian market, but this is an investment of money to make money. For example, there is some junk in the warehouses from tsarist times. The cartridge for this weapon, for the money of a particular businessman, of course, is certified as a hunting one, then this junk is converted to the norms of the civilian market and put on sale with a horse price tag for those who want majors and so on. Secondly, this is such a dull replacement for Russian pain-sufferers (supporters of the legalization of short-barreled weapons) to fire 9mm cartridges at the shooting range almost like from a pistol. Well, a way to get these 9mm cartridges for someone. If it’s not your topic, it’s better not to be interested, the Russian civilian gunsmith, this is such a bunch of crazy people, God forbid anyone.

[Maxim G]

1. The weapon is completely a remake, and what does it have to do with what is in the warehouses?
2. PP and pistols are different types of weapons.
Those who are interested in pistol shooting usually buy OOP.

[Alien From]

Smoked! You are right as ever! I subscribe to your every word

[Maxim G]

This is a submachine gun with a restriction on firing bursts,
weapons common in the West.

Used by athletes for practical shooting.

[Oleg812spb]

Used by athletes for practical shooting.

Exactly what for sports practical target shooting at targets. Further than 100, a maximum of 200 m, it is useless to shoot from it.

[Maxim G]

Quote: Oleg812spb

Exactly what for sports practical target shooting at targets. Further than 100, a maximum of 200 m, it is useless to shoot from it.

So what? From the PP, they usually shoot closer.

[Oleg812spb]

At the same time, the carbine received a new receiver cover with a new "diopter", which will be installed on all modern types of weapons from the Kalashnikov concern.

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An unconventional lobby seems to have taken over at Kalashnikov. They also made an AK-19 under 5,56x45.

[KCA]

The hooligans asked my friend the huntsman to drown the SCS, where it’s deeper, but he took pity on the typewriter, the SCS is good, and this is so, pampering, about nothing, well, in the sense of hunting, for people, maybe it’ll give a ride, point-blank if

[flying bear]

We had them on the ship. 2 pyramids. But they had no practical purpose. Only for the guard of honor company.

[KCA]

I think they made sense, although the guard of honor, trained, with SCS and bayonets is beautiful, but during WWII and World War II, the main weapons were not PPSh or MP-42, but Mosinka and the Mauser carbine

[Vadim S]

Something like the invention of a madman! Such a club under a small cartridge, and even a smooth barrel, as if it were a holiday in a psychiatric hospital!

[flying bear]

Really. Ravings of a madman. No matter how much I tried, I could not come up with an appointment for this submachine gun.

[Observer2014]

It would be better if they allowed home responsible storage of personal army weapons. In a personal safe. Following the example of Switzerland. Now they will start yelling, yes, how it is! This is a conspiracy! A Russian person cannot be trusted! And then came the war. A responsible citizen goes to the front. With your machine. Nicely groomed. With the sights and tuning he needs. He loves and understands weapons. It's great for the country. No, it's better to dump a bunch of junk, rusty at your feet. This is not a pity for the Russian. Does anyone figure out how to fight, for example, from AKS 74? At night. Just don't blurt out tracers. Pliz. I'll laugh.

[flying bear]

But yes, yes. There are true sights for Kalashmat with a night channel. But no, again, rather they are not. Yes, this is when it is in service, it is mass-produced. Then there is. And if "someone heard somewhere, saw somewhere, it's just not there.

[your1970]

Quote: Observer2014

A responsible citizen goes to the front. With your machine. Nicely groomed. With the sights and tuning he needs. He loves and understands weapons

And tomorrow his tuned unit was run over by a tank ...
And the day after tomorrow he with a lawsuit in court - "The Moscow Region ruined the barrel for 500 with a feldipers thermal imager. As part of a civil lawsuit, let the money be returned to the Moscow Region!"
Or even more fun - before the SVO, Lobaev's Twilight cost 1.2 million. And now a conditional responsible person arrives at the front with Twilight .....
And where will they find cartridges for 1000 (one thousand !!!!) rubles for 1 (one !!!) piece ????

[your1970]

If anyone doubts the possibility of such claims - the relatives of the deceased orchestra received payments 7 million each For a long time, they sued the Ministry of Defense for a serviceman, then with the Russian Federation, considering the flight as a passenger one and demanding insurance in accordance with international insurance standards in the amount of from 22 million for a person.
From something like this......

[faiver]

as for me it’s so unnecessary crap, but they sell alterations of PPSh and MP-38/40 for single shooting with stores for 10 rounds, maybe this battle will find its buyer

[Baloo]

What interesting news! But I'm still waiting for when I hear about the reciprocal use of cluster munitions against khokhlopiteks in response to their next use of cluster munitions. And then they threatened with a finger, like we have all sorts of things like we’ll hit, and civilians in the LDNR and new territories continue to die from American cluster munitions. What needs to happen in order for us to experience on the battlefield in real conditions. Hohlopiteks have already used chemical weapons, and we are all almond

[flying bear]

There are questions for our VG. A lot of questions.

[Cetarb kilk]

The gloomy genius of the engineers of the Kalashnikov concern. More precisely, not a genius, but a complete perversion ...

[pathnuty]

When will Mikhail Timofeevich start visiting these 3-2-1-owls from KK in his sleep?!! And there, either in the fool's house, or, suddenly, something sensible will tell ...

[Ivan Ivanov_7]

Chambered for 7.62 * 25 wherever it goes, a hare, a fox, and even a roe deer can be hooked ... I have 223 up to 300 meters, then only with the density of fire