Who dances on the wreckage of a Polish airliner?

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New very sharp momentum is gaining momentum around the collapse of the Polish side of the No. XXUMX near Smolensk. Conspiracy theories of the tragedy continue to be actively exaggerated by certain persons, the main "hero" among whom is the brother of the deceased Polish president - Jaroslaw Kaczynski. Mr. Kaczynski, not trusting the conclusions of any of the commissions that worked and continue to work, continues to declare in any convenient way that the Tu-1 plane crash near Smolensk in the spring of 154, many of which were the representatives of the highest authorities of Poland, was, if I may say so, initiated Russian special services. In the played out imagination of the leader of the movement “Law and Justice” Yaroslav Kaczynski, the picture of the tragedy is seen approximately as follows: in some incomprehensible way, agents of the Russian Federal Security Service penetrated the plane, laid an explosive device there that allegedly worked when the Polish Air Force tried to land the Tu-2010 at the Smolensk airfield.

Who dances on the wreckage of a Polish airliner?


The fact that such a version does not stand up to criticism does not bother the brother of the deceased president, and therefore he is ready to express it everywhere only in order to gain political bonuses for himself and once again be in power in Poland. By the way, for that matter, why not put forward certain claims to Yaroslav Kaczynski himself. Perhaps it was he who so wanted to break into the highest political Olympus of his state that he decided to adjust aviation a catastrophe in which so many high-ranking Polish officials died ... There, he even went to the polls immediately after his brother’s death, and only a little bit lost to Bronislaw Komorowski. As they say, it all fits ... Well, in fact, and what is this version more conspiratorial than the version of Mr. Kaczynski himself? ..

However, we will not be like those who want to get some bonuses on the human tragedy. There is an official version of the reasons for the collapse of the Polish airfield No. XXUMX, which has been confirmed by dozens of experts from both Russia and Poland, and it is silly to look for some mysterious grain in the tragedy near Smolensk in 1.

But the army of conspiracy therapists do not think to give up. Now its representatives have a new "clue". It is connected with the fact that the Russian side so far refuses to hand over to Warsaw the wreckage of the same ill-fated Tu-154, where the delegation from Warsaw flew to Smolensk to participate in mourning events dedicated to the memory of the victims of the Katyn tragedy.

The return of the wreckage of the Polish side from Russia to Poland is hampered by the fact that all the necessary investigative actions have not yet been completed, and as soon as all this work is completed, the Russian side will immediately transfer the wreckage to its Polish colleagues. About this, in particular, said the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry Sergey Lavrov. The Russian Foreign Minister noted that the Russian side is doing everything possible to return to Warsaw what was left of the Tu-154, which crashed more than two years ago.

However, some representatives of the Polish political elites seem to be confident that Russia does not hand over the wreckage to Poland, since their extradition may reveal some intimate secret. But excuse me, what secret? What can be the secret where dozens of experts from various departments managed to work, moreover, Polish experts carried out no less expertise and investigative actions than Russian experts. What could be the secret where, by the mere negotiations on board the Tu-154, a quite clear picture of what happened on that ill-fated day in spring 2010 of the year is drawn ...

But someone with enviable persistence is trying to translate the tragedy into political rails. In particular, the situation with the fact that the plane’s wreckage is not being given out to the Polish side led to the following: the head of the Polish Foreign Ministry, Radoslaw Sikorski, announced that he had applied to the European Union and directly to Catherine Ashton so that she personally had some influence on Russia. He says that in the bilateral format between Russia and Poland, the problem of returning the wreckage of a crashed airliner has not been resolved for the year 2,5, which means that Poland has every reason to use a third party to attract attention ... At the same time, it’s not clear which side tragedy Warsaw is going to attach Mrs. Ashton. Does the same Sikorsky believe that the mere word of the head of the EU foreign policy will somehow affect the process of accelerating the course of the final investigation stage?

On the issue of the return of the wreckage of the Polish side №1 asked at a press conference and President Vladimir Putin. He stated that he did not see a big problem here and was very concerned that someone was trying to give the situation a clearly politicized shade. According to Putin, Russia is interested in an objective investigation, which must necessarily be completed. And the investigation is conducted by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, which should soon put an end to the matter.
This response from President Putin has become a kind of message to all those who have decided to dig deeper into the tragedy of the Polish people and gain some dividends for themselves.

Obviously, even after Russia gives the plane wreckage to Poland, certain forces sticking to conspiracy versions of the plane crash near Smolensk will find a new reason to declare a “massacre” of the Polish elite in Russia in 2010. After all, there are people who are frankly not profitable for the final point to be put in this matter, for whom the fact of reconciliation of the Polish and Russian peoples is not beneficial.

There will be people again and again (and Jaroslaw Kaczynski is not an exception), who by all means will try to put pressure on Polish citizens, urging those not to believe the results of the investigation. This is a kind of work: to say “no”, when everyone says “yes”, and this is unlikely to fit in with real human grief.
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  1. fenix57
    0
    21 December 2012 08: 41
    Dancing on the stomach.
    1. sv-sakh
      +9
      21 December 2012 08: 52
      And I always said that they were Russian ninja fighting bears, landed on a Kaczynski airliner in flight and jumping on the wing - they turned the plane off course and the brave Polish pilots lost control and crashed into a red light running out into the red light ....

      Delirium is delirium, but this version is much more plausible than those that laid out completely, officially by the Polish side ....
      1. +7
        21 December 2012 14: 58
        sv-sakh

        Quote: sv-sakh
        And I always said that these are Russian ninja fighting bears, landed on a Kaczynski airliner in flight


        Dear on the fire please hut!
        Regards, Ninja War Bears
    2. +3
      21 December 2012 10: 09
      Quote: fenix57
      Dancing on the stomach.


      It is strange that nowhere among the arguments of the holy fool Yaroslavka there are any statements about conferring an extraordinary title on the valiant birch and the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, for the destruction of so many enemies of the Russian state.
      1. Kaa
        +2
        21 December 2012 14: 14
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        does not appear to be any applications for awarding a valiant birch of an extraordinary rank

        Do you have any strategic Topol complexes? Apparently, the S-500 complex should be affectionately (like many Russian complexes) called "Birch" ...
    3. +1
      21 December 2012 15: 20
      fenix57
      This is Stalin reached out!
      By planted birches understand!
      1. Zynaps
        +9
        21 December 2012 17: 40
        collusion photo evidence to reach Polish elite in decades
        1. +1
          21 December 2012 18: 13
          Zynaps
          laughing I knew it!
        2. Kaa
          0
          21 December 2012 22: 58
          Quote: Zynaps
          collusion photo evidence

          Urgently send the twin ... you will get a fee ... some evidence ... I see "Walter" in everyone's pocket ... laughing
          1. Zynaps
            +1
            22 December 2012 00: 55
            something a lifetime rations of Krakow sausage to demand a fee ...

            [ all tormented by the shining prospects of choice ]
            1. +1
              22 December 2012 02: 10
              take the stew!
  2. 0
    21 December 2012 08: 44
    In how was it, the Poles, Katyn was not enough,
    there is also this one, it would be better to fly to study.
    1. +3
      21 December 2012 15: 03
      Bykov

      Quote: Bulls.
      In how is it, Poles, Katyn was not enough


      and we ask you not to burn the hut! And then now the Poles will come running - the descendants of the victims of the crime of Susanin.


      Regards, Ninja War Bears
      1. 0
        23 December 2012 09: 30
        Quote: Karlsonn
        and we ask you not to burn the hut! And then now the Poles will come running - the descendants of the victims of the crime of Susanin.


        Regards, Ninja War Bears

        Ha ha haaaa. Fuck, let them run over with them.
        Give them a tour of the memorial sites of the great Kostroma citizen,
        let them then the Ministry of Emergency Situations, in the afternoon with fire, searches.
        Tradition, nevertheless, must be respected.
  3. david210512
    +1
    21 December 2012 08: 47
    the Poles are always on top wassat
    1. +4
      21 December 2012 09: 21
      But who cares about the prostitution-hysterical cries of the Polish press and politicians ?? Don’t feed them with honey, give mud to Russia. All hope to gain a dominant role in the Slavic family of peoples laughing Everyone laughs at them, and they all puff and puff under sysyamera laughing
      1. +4
        21 December 2012 09: 34
        Quote: GSH-18
        But who cares about the prostitution-hysterical cries of the Polish press and politicians ?? Don’t feed them with honey, give mud to Russia. Everyone hopes to gain a dominant role in the Slavic family of peoples laughing. Everyone laughs at them, and they all puff and puff under the sire

        Don't tell me. LADIES, for example, in the prime of his reign, that would please the "West" and for Katyn before the logs he repented, and Stalinism tried to expose everything, and almost revise the results of the 2nd World War. Well stopped on time.
        1. Zynaps
          0
          21 December 2012 17: 50
          in the Katyn case, even among the Russian establishment, things are not so simple. screams in the press about the recognition of blah-blah-blah - the purest water of Gorbachev's politicking. in fact, as we know, the "documents" from the SHG have traces of obvious forgery and none of the expertise recognizes them. the Kremlin has no problems about throwing a shovel of shit in the USSR, but even they have no plans to pay for Hitler's crimes, because there are those who want to put on a clamp in quantities for everything that the wolves have bitten off too much. therefore, everyone who wanted to get their piece of happiness in the case of the Katyn murders was weightyly said at the European level (scans of documents are attached here): http://katyn.ru/index.php?go=News&in=view&id=208
    2. Kaa
      0
      21 December 2012 23: 04
      Quote: david210512
      the Poles are always on top

      ... a lonely birch tree. Speaking of birch trees.
      "In 1934, in a small Western Belarusian town Birch-Kartuzskaya The Polish authorities created one of the most terrible concentration camps in the history of the 1972th century. Everything here served one purpose: to crush a person physically and psychologically in the shortest possible time, crush his individuality, turn him into a wordless one that does not even think about political struggle. In 10, the work was published The “concentration camp in Bereza-Kartuzskaya”, where the total number of prisoners was estimated at about 1919 thousand people. It is quite obvious that in interwar Poland the creation and functioning of the Bereza-Kartuzskiy concentration camp was not an accidental “systemic failure”. This was a consequence of the internal policy of the Polish state in relation to political opponents and the population of the lands of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus, occupied in 1920-562224. "Http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/XNUMX/
      SYMBOLISM OR SO GOD SEE EVERYTHING?
  4. +4
    21 December 2012 09: 00
    Taras Bulba was right, excuse N.V. Gorol!
  5. +1
    21 December 2012 09: 05
    the quote does not bother the brother of the deceased president, and therefore he is ready to express it everywhere only in order to gain political bonuses for himself and again be in power in Poland.

    at least immoral.
  6. +7
    21 December 2012 09: 06
    If only on the bones of his brother did not make a career since his brains are not enough!
    In a word, this rotten Pszcz Kaczynski!
    1. +3
      21 December 2012 09: 41
      Quote: sergo0000
      In a word, this rotten Pszcz Kaczynski!

      Ignore the moron. Moreover, at the state level.
  7. +4
    21 December 2012 09: 25
    Friends, let’s drop you, well, by God. If Polish lice defeated Napoleon (recent article), then there is nothing to say about the crash of the plane. Pan Halyavsky - in all its glory.
    1. Grenz
      +3
      21 December 2012 12: 26
      Averias,
      Cockroaches were also mentioned there.
      Apparently cockroaches took up the wires, and lice for the crew.
      Those began to itch and thereby lost control.
      And those lice that did not fly away, the Poles are so tired that their health is not only physical, but mental shaken.
      After all, it is necessary - from the time of Napoleon, this evil has been cultivated.
      Have you tried to wash yourself? Maybe then thoughts became cleaner.
  8. +4
    21 December 2012 09: 30
    Apparently the brother of the deceased president had a stigma in the cannon, otherwise he would not have tried his best to distract attention from himself. In the end, it was him on the plane for some reason.
  9. +8
    21 December 2012 09: 32
    And this "seeker of truth" is not going to fly to us by chance? So to speak, in order to conduct an investigative experiment ... We would then give them the wreckage of two planes at once, so as not to drive the transport again ...
    1. borisst64
      +4
      21 December 2012 09: 47
      Quote: IRBIS
      And this "seeker of truth" is not going to fly to us by chance?

      It is necessary to adopt a decree on the landing of Polish government aircraft strictly at the Smolensk airfield.
      1. +2
        21 December 2012 15: 13
        borisst64

        support!

      2. botur2013
        0
        21 December 2012 17: 33
        .
        Quote: borisst64
        It is necessary to adopt a decree on landing Polish government aircraft strictly at the Smolensk airfield

        Quote: borisst64
        It is necessary to adopt a decree on landing Polish government aircraft strictly at the Smolensk airfield

        In the area of ​​the airport of Smolensk.
      3. botur2013
        +1
        21 December 2012 17: 37
        Quote: borisst64
        It is necessary to adopt a decree on the landing of Polish government aircraft strictly at the Smolensk airfield.

        In the area of ​​the airport of Smolensk. good good
        1. +3
          21 December 2012 21: 22
          good And to make it absolutely fair - next to the memorial of the "victims of Katyn" put up a memorial - "Soviet prisoners of war - victims of Polish concentration camps." And massively understand our victims on the day of the "supposedly Katyn shootings".
    2. 0
      21 December 2012 12: 13
      Right !!! [hide] [/ hide] laughing good drinks
  10. -1
    21 December 2012 10: 05
    "However, some representatives of the Polish political elite, apparently, are sure that Russia does not give Poland the wreckage, as their extradition may reveal some innermost secret. But, forgive me, what secret?"

    How is it what? Not all the pieces of the "Arrow" have been removed from the casing yet.
  11. +6
    21 December 2012 10: 08
    Yesterday Putin gave time to ask pshek a question, but then everyone already knew what the question was, where is our scrap metal ... It would be better if some "peasant truth" would take advantage of this time .. Well, let them fly to Smolensk for the wreckage (if they reach it) .. And then give them a guide to the hangar with this scrap metal .. some "Uncle Vanya or Vasya", but Susanin, well, you know the story further ..
  12. +17
    21 December 2012 10: 44
    -Where did you lead us? You can't see a zgi! -
    Poles f ... the pilot’s brains.
    -Answer, panov, what a buoy
    Are we rushing to Smolensk in dashing weather?

    We are going to land again and again,
    We’d stay at home, honestly ...
    Is there really no suitable day?
    Poles in Russia - a bad omen ...

    He cried out, impatiently impulsed,
    Selected cousins ​​of the Slavs:
    - Until Kaczynski’s hearts got cold
    We will rumble bones of Katyn!

    The carrion is calling us to the earth.
    Did we cram here like a bus?
    Today they recognize the execution of officers,
    And there - and all the troubles of Catholics in general!

    It’s necessary to arrange all this more tragically,
    So that the pans from their NATO see
    And the pans from the States even saw
    That Poland has been affected for centuries

    From drunk and wild godless neighbors!
    Now they won’t be screwed, they stuck in the net ...
    And then, in public, it would be nice to
    So that the Russians have thrown a Polish ass.

    Yes, I, to participate in this victory,
    Take a bike ride from Warsaw!
    They will answer, in full, both Putin and Stalin!
    - And you suggest that we be late?

    For this, we rushed to the Russian distance?
    Get down soon and step on the pedals!

    ... And repent too late, that was eager for:
    Flaps scratch the crowns of trees.

    Following the crew, whitening face,
    People's Choice Kaczynski our Leo
    He saw the last, as long as he was alive -

    In simple zipun, and in onuch man:

    With a grin of a curve under a gray mustache,
    Wanders in front of the plane Susanin.
    Looks wildly in pitch fog, -
    And beckons, and beckons, and beckons, and beckons ...

    . . .

    Well, the poet understands that.
    1. Dimon Lviv
      +6
      21 December 2012 11: 57
      The phrase from the movie "Formula of Love" - ​​"All enemies of Russia are dying near Smolensk!" )))

      The author looked into the water)))
    2. +1
      21 December 2012 21: 27
      Good poetry. From me "+".
      1. 0
        21 December 2012 23: 42
        Not mine, reposted, repent stop
    3. +1
      22 December 2012 01: 08
      Poems - Fire ....
  13. +3
    21 December 2012 10: 53
    Dancing on the bones is not doing well.
    The Poles screamed about Katyn, made Mecca out of it, teased the dead and here's a new cemetery for you.
    Finish investigative actions, return the remains of the plane and no longer remember "
  14. USNik
    +7
    21 December 2012 11: 18
    Finish investigative actions, return the remnants of the aircraft and no longer remember

    Namely, that to complete the investigative actions and formulate a clear answer, putting the final point in the investigation. And then in a hurry to give out the carcass fragments to the Poles, 100% you can expect a loud farting of little dogs about Putin’s found fingerprints on the helm, a trace of Stalin’s fifth point on the chair and traces of Susanin’s felt boots in the cabin ...
  15. +4
    21 December 2012 11: 19
    Quote: sv-sakh
    Delirium is delirium, but this version is much more plausible than those that laid out completely, officially by the Polish side ....


    and the story of Comrade Stalin's insight, who ordered the birch to be planted in the same place, is also more plausible ...
  16. His
    +11
    21 December 2012 11: 22
    The Poles are seeking not only to pick up their scrap metal (supposedly this is their property), but most importantly they require a piece of birch into which the liner crashed.
    I’m thinking that it’s impossible to give a birch.
    This log should be immortalized in bronze, plus take the genetic material and plant a border like birches. Let Russophobes fly
  17. +2
    21 December 2012 11: 40
    It is sad when a government turns into a house of the insane. Fortunately, we already had this, but among the Poles the process took a chronic form. Well, the European Union from the United States, put another experiment: crazy against Russia. As history shows, such experiments lead to the transformation of the whole of Europe into a madhouse with a forced regime under our control.
    1. His
      +2
      21 December 2012 12: 00
      Pole it already sounds like a diagnosis
  18. +3
    21 December 2012 12: 10
    It is obvious that even after Russia gives Poland the wreckage of the aircraft, certain forces will find a new reason to declare the "mass murder" of the Polish elite in Russia in 2010.


    Be sure to find! Pieces of rockets, kilograms of explosives - they will find everything. And their assistants will be specialists themselves you know where.
  19. wax
    +2
    21 December 2012 13: 42
    Kaczynski's bonuses characterize the worldview of the Polish people.
  20. +2
    21 December 2012 14: 23
    Do not frighten and bend the Russian birch with anything, think of some TU-154!
  21. +2
    21 December 2012 15: 16
    I wish Kaczynski to improve mental health.
  22. +2
    21 December 2012 16: 03
    The Poles constantly manifest an unhealthy inferiority complex against Russia. It's time to stop discussing this topic altogether. Well, the Poles are their problems
    1. +3
      21 December 2012 21: 29
      I don’t believe in the honesty of the player, in the love of Russia, Olyaka "(c) A.S. Pushkin
  23. 0
    21 December 2012 16: 36
    Of course, the complex manifests itself, from their own throne our Russian Empress made a toilet seat in the toilet- this is how much they crap in their souls.
  24. GHG
    GHG
    -1
    21 December 2012 18: 14
    I came up with such an idea ... what didn’t obey the Russians (Soviet-Russian) they won’t be given any more ... units will achieve this, but ours will surpass everyone ... it’s just necessary. Maybe we’ve got used to what is needed? It’s just that we’ve got used to the fact that there have always been difficulties around us? For us, almost every day a test ... is not the first millennium. laughing
    1. +1
      21 December 2012 23: 44
      Cool, but nifiga did not understand winked
  25. +1
    21 December 2012 19: 24
    I am not interested in esotericism / mysticism, but is it not revenge of the souls of the dead Poles for distorting the truth, in fact, political speculation. They don’t joke with that.
    PS When the Psheks recognize the extermination of prisoners of war of the Red Army, who were an order of magnitude greater than the captured Poles (mainly gendarmes and police) who committed lawlessness in the western lands of Ukraine and Belarus.
  26. +2
    21 December 2012 19: 57
    Why did they forget to put Yaroslav on this plane? I will not believe that he, as a real Polish patriot, did not want to honor the victims of Katyn.
    Omission, damn it.
  27. Cat
    +5
    21 December 2012 21: 09
    I read all these Polish statements, and slowly I come to the conclusion: yes, Russia is really to blame. It’s a big, not poor country - what did it cost the Polish president to present a new plane? "Mriya" some thread, in the passenger version? So that there should not be 96 clear-minded people, but at least half a thousand. The benefits for the improvement of Russian-Polish relations would be enormous, as I am telling you =)
  28. not good
    0
    21 December 2012 22: 22
    Usually, the thief himself shouts the loudest "stop the thief". For something suspiciously long, Mr. Kaczynski cannot calm down. Maybe the fact that the plane fell is his contribution?
  29. +1
    21 December 2012 23: 09
    In the unbridled imagination of the leader of the Law and Justice movement Yaroslav Kaczynski, the picture of the tragedy is approximately as follows: in some incomprehensible way, the agents of the Russian Federal Security Service got into the plane, laid down an explosive device there, which allegedly went off when the Tu-154 of the Polish Air Force tried to land at the Smolensk airport.

    I can translate a little from Polish. I read a couple of articles by Jaroslav Kaczynski, I got the impression that the person is not in himself. He is so persistent in trying to refute the facts of the Polish prosecutor’s office - you wonder! But the most interesting thing is that he does not provide facts
  30. 0
    21 December 2012 23: 24
    In the crash of side 101, everything is too clear and obvious. This apparently does not suit Yaroslav. He is a politician, and for many politicians the facts are of secondary importance, the main thing is to be able to inflate an elephant from a fly, and use it for personal purposes.
  31. dusha233
    +1
    22 December 2012 09: 34
    Most likely, Poland’s prezik was guilty before its people and they dropped it as their specialist, sacrificing their lives!
  32. 0
    22 December 2012 21: 40
    Ten years later, the Poles will find the remnants of an atomic bomb explosion in these wreckages ... And the then Russian ruler admits the "guilt" of Russia to the Poles in this too ... Then another gang of Pole rulers will fly to commemorate Katyn and plane "and again bump into some Russian birch ... History teaches until it teaches ...
  33. +4
    22 December 2012 23: 41
    All these dances on the bones of the dead, speak only about the inferiority of the dancers.
    And, on that, and, on the other hand, unfortunately ...
    1. +1
      22 December 2012 23: 45
      Perhaps the most reasonable comment!
    2. +4
      23 December 2012 00: 09
      Chamber No. 6

      I personally - not only will I dance on the graves of the Poles, but personally, the honor mail once again to participate in order to erase Poland from the map of Europe!
  34. +3
    23 December 2012 08: 40
    for a long time psheks will remember the "long arms of the kgb". woodpeckers, damn it
  35. general-oberst
    +1
    23 December 2012 17: 16
    Since the time of Stefan Batoria, Przemyks have been sleeping and seeing how to annoy Russia, these are all Catholic priests ordered by the Pope to hang out near Russia and incite anyone to inflate interethnic ties with Russia. Listen to Belarusian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian priests, it is darkness. It’s just not clear why Poland, this is the buy-sell litter of the West, most of all it is against Russia. And if you recall how many of these creatures killed the Russian and military and civilians who left Russia in their concentration camps after the civil war, then Katyn seems like a fun walk, and it’s time to shut up these stinking psemechek, and if you show them in the middle of punitive raids in Russia The 19th century, when they staged their rebellion, they owe us the grave of life. And only the Bolsheviks put a suit on the shield, like a fighter against the autocracy. This is only Henryk Sienkiewicz describes how they heroized against Sweden and Turkey. But in fact, this gentry ambition was claimed only against Russia. As Poland was a prostitute from the West, so she remained with it, and no time will change it. am
  36. +2
    24 December 2012 17: 23
    and one birch in a warrior field