M712 Copperhead: the economic feasibility of using the first guided artillery projectile

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M712 Copperhead: the economic feasibility of using the first guided artillery projectile

Today, guided missiles no longer seem such a curiosity. Most of us have heard of the Russian Krasnopol ammunition or the American M982 Excalibur.

At the same time, the development of such weapons in the late 70s of the last century became a real breakthrough. Moreover, the advantages of such shells were not only in their characteristics, but also in the economic component.



Recall that the principle of operation of such ammunition was that in the middle section of the flight path the projectile was corrected by an inertial system, and on approaching the target, a semi-active laser homing head was turned on.

In the USSR, the first corrected or guided artillery projectile, the same 152-mm Krasnopol, was put into service in 1986. At the same time, American engineers were ahead of the Soviet ones by 4 years, and in 1982 the Pentagon received the 155-mm M-712 Copperhead projectile.

Tellingly, the latter was significantly inferior to simple artillery ammunition in range, but surpassed them in accuracy and, as a result, efficiency. This was the fundamental point in the decision to mass-produce such ammunition.

So, the cost of a unit of the M-712 Copperhead cost a little more than $ 24. For defeat 000 tanks on average, 6 shells or 29,3 thousand dollars were required.

At the same time, to complete a similar task, an average of 84 conventional 155-mm projectiles were required for a total cost of $ 54.

The situation is similar with moving targets. So, to destroy four tanks on the move, 15 M-712 Copperheads were required. That is, 3,3 shells per tank, or 91,5 thousand dollars.

Conventional 155-mm shells for the destruction of one moving tank required 378 pieces, which at that time cost almost 244 thousand dollars. This despite the fact that at that time the Soviet T-72 cost 240 thousand.

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  1. +2
    2 August 2023 23: 09
    SVO clearly showed the advantages of guided projectiles. This species should develop more actively, if only to add range to our guns. Yes
    1. +1
      2 August 2023 23: 21
      These advantages have been clear for 20-30 years already. The state of this type of weapons in the RF Armed Forces cannot be explained except by sabotage.
      1. +4
        2 August 2023 23: 46
        The advantages of laser-guided projectiles are far from obvious. In fact, they were created in the United States for one single task - the fight against armored vehicles of the USSR. A sort of replacement for the ATGM. The result of the Americans rather disappointed, because it was necessary to organize communication channels between artillery observers and battery commanders. In this sense, ATGMs are much better because they are located directly in the unit. So the United States actually abandoned the use of such shells. By the way, despite the general shortage of shells, they are not supplied to Ukraine either, because the organization of their use is too big a hemorrhoid.
        1. +1
          2 August 2023 23: 50
          Compared to conventional, the advantages are obvious. It’s just that the Yankees have GPS-guided shells that are superior to laser-guided shells in everything. If you need to hit a mobile vehicle, there is an option with homing submunitions. And the M712 are godlessly outdated, it’s not at all a fact that they have remained somewhere in the USA.
          1. -2
            3 August 2023 00: 21
            The United States used the M712 very limitedly, and during the years of the Cold War they probably stamped quite a few. And taking into account the fact that shells are now being sent to Ukraine even from the times of Korea, then the issue here is clearly not age. This time.
            The second, of course, a laser-guided projectile has a certain advantage over an unguided one, however, against armored vehicles, with the same inputs, it is much better to use ATGMs. Well, what's the difference than irradiating a tank - with a laser from a guidance station for Copperhead or a laser for Cornet? Moreover, wired ATGMs and ATGMs of the 3rd generation are even somewhat better, because they do not betray their presence with this very radiation, which is detected by the tank's protection systems.
            3) GPS / GLONASS-guided projectiles are a completely different story. They really are the future. Well, at least while the satellite constellation is in orbit.
            1. +2
              3 August 2023 15: 47
              There are also new weapon systems:
              1) Launching planning bombs from Hymers installations. Booster added.
              A bomb is much cheaper than a rocket.
              2) Launching kamikaze drones with cumm. Warhead mortar way.
              The range is increased compared to ATGMs.
            2. +1
              3 August 2023 18: 08
              You do not take into account that the Cornet does not need to irradiate the tank with a laser for a long time, since the rocket goes along the path of the beam, which is simply pointed towards the tank but not at the tank itself, and already on approach the beam is aimed at the tank. And here the aerosol shooting system does not help to hide the tank. Guidance by jeepies is possible only for stationary objects.
              1. 0
                3 August 2023 23: 28
                Of course, you can guide the ATGM at the laser above the tank, and then retarget it, but this is clearly more difficult than constantly keeping the target in the crosshairs.
                GPS is possible and a moving target is still possible. There are Bonus projectiles with homing. Well, or at the moments of stops. At least the network has a lot of videos of defeats and tanks and self-propelled guns.
      2. 0
        3 August 2023 00: 01
        Your words about wrecking are one of the reasons for the poor state with this.
        We do not know how to use systematic approaches, only buzz about sabotage and punish.
        And high-tech requires consistency.
  2. +3
    2 August 2023 23: 12
    Guided projectiles and bombs are not only cheaper due to the reduction in the amount spent to hit the target, but also due to the reduction in the wear and tear of weapons and equipment. The value of reducing losses and completing combat missions is simply incalculable.
    1. +3
      2 August 2023 23: 33
      Don't forget about logistics. Carry a hundred shells or a couple of boxes to the front line.
    2. +1
      3 August 2023 00: 02
      + total gain in logistics and much more.
      Another thing is that in order to develop this business, it is necessary to scale production, use the same microcircuits everywhere, from shells to drones, airplanes and civilians.
      1. +2
        3 August 2023 00: 10
        If you put a microcircuit from a washing machine into a howitzer shell and fire it, then this microcircuit will immediately fall apart.
        1. 0
          4 August 2023 01: 12
          the crystal itself is not. It is the most complex, and everything else is a wrapper.
  3. 0
    2 August 2023 23: 29
    Speaking about the economic efficiency of the same red fields, two things should be noted.
    Firstly, you should have a full range of cheaper projectiles of shorter range and controllability so as not to shoot sparrows from cannons.
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    Secondly, today the electronic filling of red fields should fit on half of the palm (directly the electronics itself - on the nail) and cost no more than a hundred dollars. Considering the prospects for future wars, it is necessary to completely redesign this electronics on a modern element base and thereby reduce its cost. We also need electronics for stripped-down versions: first of all, a controlled detonation time after a shot. Since millions of shells will be required, it is not a sin to make a factory from scratch for new designs.
    1. +3
      2 August 2023 23: 34
      The "electronic stuffing" of one M1156 course corrector costs about $ 20, and this is in a series of one hundred thousand pieces. The shell itself is 000 dollars at the most. So consider how much electronics is capable of withstanding overloads of tens of thousands of G.
      1. +1
        3 August 2023 12: 48
        Sorry, but how is it different from the usual? What, lithography technologies are different? Or other materials? The same conventional microcircuit, poured into the compound. And the overprice is a speculative margin and high wages for workers.
        Today's electronics are hundreds of times more resistant to overloads than the electronics of the 40s. If in the 44th year the amers managed to make an anti-aircraft shell, then today there should be no problems in principle.
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        Well, the last. If it's a problem for you to make a filling for an artillery shell, put electronics on a hail rocket. There is less overload. A projectile will arrive not in a minute, but in two - is there a big difference?
        1. 0
          3 August 2023 15: 46
          Since they haven’t staged in the last 70 years, why did you decide what they would stage now?
    2. -2
      3 August 2023 00: 04
      Plus, schemes and sensors from shells should be unified with other types of weapons and, if possible, with civilian equipment. It's better to make a chip 100 times more powerful than what is needed for the purposes of the projectile, but not develop new ones every time.
  4. +1
    2 August 2023 23: 57
    Quote from Escariot
    The advantages of laser-guided projectiles are far from obvious. In fact, they were created in the United States for one single task - the fight against armored vehicles of the USSR. A sort of replacement for the ATGM. The result of the Americans rather disappointed, because it was necessary to organize communication channels between artillery observers and battery commanders. In this sense, ATGMs are much better because they are located directly in the unit. So the United States actually abandoned the use of such shells. By the way, despite the general shortage of shells, they are not supplied to Ukraine either, because the organization of their use is too big a hemorrhoid.

    Copperheads have long been decommissioned, the future belongs to Excaliburs with the possibility of homing in case of GPS jamming, and what is the problem of communication if you do not take the RF Armed Forces as an example, a German, like the Yankees from a trench in the LBS, already in WWII could call artillery and aviation ...
    1. 0
      3 August 2023 00: 36
      Officially, Copperhead is still in service and no one has removed it from service. Like that armored train that's on the siding.
      On the communication side: the chain of transmission of a request to destroy a target between the unit commander on the limber and the howitzer battery crew will in any case be much longer than between the same commanders and the ATGM crew subordinate to him.
      With GPS and its EW jamming, the situation is actually not entirely clear. On the one hand, electronic warfare certainly has some effect on guidance systems and at least reduces accuracy, but on the other hand, there is a video on the network regarding accurate hits by Hymars tens of kilometers from the front. Either the accuracy is not cut off enough, or the electronic warfare works locally, or maybe the TsIPSO produces fakes.
  5. +1
    3 August 2023 02: 29
    So, the cost of a unit of the M-712 Copperhead cost a little more than $ 24. To destroy 000 tanks, on average, 5 shells or 6 thousand dollars were required.

    6 shells is 144 thousand dollars.
    1. 0
      3 August 2023 06: 33
      But these 6 shells hit as many as 5 tanks. And therefore 29.3 is for one tank
      1. +1
        3 August 2023 09: 55
        On the topic of economic feasibility, it is known that unguided projectiles are significantly cheaper than unguided missiles, it is also known that within the line of sight and a little further, cannon artillery is more effective than missiles, but with increasing distances and switching to guided projectiles and missiles, prices level out, while the rate of fire, the range and caliber of artillery remains the same, and missiles have an increase in performance and then a guidance system, in the future it is much easier to put AI into a rocket than into a projectile.
  6. 0
    3 August 2023 15: 12
    A simple practical question: will such ammunition be used to shoot at a single fighter? Is it possible to use soldier's wisdom: a shell does not hit the same funnel 2 times?
  7. 0
    3 August 2023 15: 48
    Something there in the article with mathematics - not very much. But the general idea is clear. It's like comparing highmars and hail
    Type: which is better (price / quality)