Another Su-34 in Novosibirsk

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A photograph taken on December 16, 2012 of another Su-34 front-line bomber of a new construction by Novosibirsk JSC appeared on the Russianplanes.net web resource aviation production association named after V.P. Chkalov’s (NAPO), which is being tested at the NAPO aerodrome in Novosibirsk, has an aircraft with tail number 21 red in the new paint standard of the Russian Air Force. Recall that a week earlier a new Su-34 aircraft under construction was lit at the factory airfield of NAPO with tail number "20 red".

Another Su-34 in Novosibirsk

The Su-34 front bomber (tail number "21 Red") of the new building of the Novosibirsk Aviation Production Association named after VP Chkalov. Novosibirsk, 16.12.2012 (c) Vyacheslav Maslov
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  1. itr
    +16
    18 December 2012 11: 16
    It’s not sad, but giving a human name to a Russian plane in Pru since almost 9 months pass between the planes
    1. humanist
      +1
      18 December 2012 11: 20
      Quote: itr
      It’s not sad, but giving a human name to a Russian plane in Pru since almost 9 months pass between the planes

      Good point drinks TU-160 "named", it's time to call fighters and attack aircraft as newborns
      1. +1
        18 December 2012 15: 21
        Meanwhile, in Belarus.

        Belarus bought four training aircraft Yak-130

        The Ministry of Defense of Belarus signed a contract with the Russian corporation Irkut for the supply of four Yak-2015 combat training aircraft in 130. This is stated in the press release of "Irkut", received by the editorial board of "Lenta.ru". Delivery terms are not specified. As noted in the press release, Belarus became the first CIS country to purchase Yak-130 aircraft.

        Belarus became interested in Russian combat training aircraft back in 2009. In November 2011, pilot inspector of the Air Force and Air Defense Command of Belarus Vladimir Nichiporchik made a familiarization flight on the Yak-130. In January 2012, the Naviny portal announced the plans of Belarus to acquire Russian training aircraft in the next two years.

        Now, the Belarusian Air Force uses the Su-27UB and MiG-29UB fighters and the Su-25UB attack aircraft to train pilots. In 2006, Belarus bought from Ukraine several Czech training aircraft Aero L-39 Albatros.

        Yak-130 aircraft are intended for training pilots of both Russian and foreign combat aircraft of the "fourth" and "fifth" generation. The aircraft can reach speeds of up to 1060 kilometers per hour and cover up to 2000 kilometers. The Yak-130 is armed with missiles and bombs of various types, as well as cannon containers with a total weight of up to three tons.

        The Russian Air Force is armed with 12 combat training Yak-130s. By the end of 2012, Irkut plans to deliver 25 more aircraft. In total, the Air Force intends to receive 2020 Yak-65s by 130.

        In addition to Belarus, Russian aircraft Yak-130 ordered Algeria, Syria, Vietnam and Libya.
    2. yustas
      +9
      18 December 2012 11: 34
      Quote: itr
      It’s not sad, but giving a human name to a Russian plane in Pru since almost 9 months pass between the planes

      Well, recently, even this was not, so that you can still be happy, But you need to give names, the cars are handsome, as it said "Russians only have beautiful children", there would be more such children =)
      1. 0
        18 December 2012 18: 30
        More recently, nothing was built at all. We must rejoice, comrades. And the volumes will increase.
    3. Yankuz
      -1
      18 December 2012 18: 26
      Cool faded !!!
  2. sashka
    +5
    18 December 2012 11: 26
    "Another"
    So Happy or Sad? "ONE MORE" .. Doesn't sound ..
    1. 0
      18 December 2012 11: 32
      This is not a battlefield fighter, which dozens per month need to produce.
    2. +2
      18 December 2012 11: 41
      "One more" that's exactly NOT ONE, but ANOTHER ONE, I may be wrong, but in my opinion on this site there was a topic that was put into service in 2012. received 10 Su-34, total: 11 pieces, it seems not bad good Yes, and the year has not yet been closed for sure there will be at least one more car ....
      1. +6
        18 December 2012 11: 48
        Well, so the tradition in December to do the plan did not go anywhere.
        1. +1
          18 December 2012 13: 25
          Oh, that tradition.
          It would be better if they did three January.
          1. yustas
            +1
            18 December 2012 13: 29
            Quote: Simple
            Oh, that tradition.
            It would be better if they did three January.

            it’s right after 10 days of the holiday ... it’s not better in December =) or better for three and every month, but without loss of quality.
            1. -1
              18 December 2012 14: 33
              Confused German holidays with Russian holidays.
        2. 0
          18 December 2012 19: 28
          Quote: urzul
          Well, so the tradition in December to do the plan did not go anywhere.

          Precisely, there was such a tradition at the end of the month or quarter of the plan to drive. Therefore, the most advanced Soviet citizens looked very carefully at the release date of the product, well, there is a tape recorder, TV, car and so on. Last decade, it’s better to refrain from buying wink
      2. +1
        18 December 2012 14: 58
        evgenii67
        No, this is from the ten that this year is surrendering. Just delays of subcontractors, waiting for any stray for installation.
      3. Russian sniper
        +1
        18 December 2012 21: 15
        evgenii67,
        You are very mistaken. stop In 2012, 10 Su-34 aircraft were to be delivered to the State Military District in the framework of the GOZ. But they did not meet the deadlines. negative This is only the second bird that took off at number "21" according to the plan for 2012. They say that they will be able to overtake only 5 out of 10 such cars to Baltimore by the end of this year.
    3. +3
      18 December 2012 12: 50
      Quote: Sasha
      "ONE MORE" .. Doesn't sound ..


      But then look what a beautiful BIRD! good drinks
      1. yustas
        +2
        18 December 2012 12: 56
        Quote: alexneg
        But then look what a beautiful BIRD!

        Kind!
        Well, you put it, as in a joke: "Not worth it ???? yes, but how it turns"
        But the car is really beautiful +
    4. +2
      18 December 2012 13: 45
      sashka
      "Another"
      So Happy or Sad? "ONE MORE" .. Doesn't sound ..

      In NAPO, not one, but 10 (ten) Su-34s are. They are waiting for the military to receive them. First, the engineering staff accepts, and then the pilots fly around. Apparently one has already taken, just flew.
      As they will, they’ll fly to Baltimore airfield
  3. +13
    18 December 2012 11: 29
    Quote: itr
    It’s not sad, but giving a human name to a Russian plane in Pru since almost 9 months pass between the planes

    I would not say that about SU-34. The plane is dangerous for the "probable" and is given it more than once a year. and abroad, until it goes --- all to US good
  4. +2
    18 December 2012 11: 31
    Pleases of course. The only interesting thing is, how damn do they experience them in frost in -40 ???? Well, sorry for the expression, you can freeze your ass to the chair !!! Or are there heated cabins? Although technicians in preparation for the flight will not envy ...
    1. +1
      18 December 2012 11: 33
      Quote: Wedmak
      The only interesting thing is, how damn do they feel them in cold weather at -40 ???? Well, sorry for the expression, you can freeze your ass to the chair !!! Or are there heated cabins?

      Good joke laughing
      1. 0
        18 December 2012 11: 40
        Yes, that's not a joke actually. I really can’t imagine. We have only -15, but damn it somehow is not really a desire to leave the house. And then consider in the field, in frost, wind, constant contact with cooling iron.
    2. +6
      18 December 2012 11: 34
      Quote: Wedmak
      how damn they in the cold weather -40 test them ???? Well, sorry for the expression, you can freeze your ass to the chair !!! Or are there heated cabins?

      And at an altitude of 10 km, what is the temperature now? In the summer, if you were pouring on an airplane, then they say the height is 10 meters, the temperature is minus 000. In winter, and even more. Without heating, you just can’t survive
      1. +2
        18 December 2012 11: 42
        In the summer I flew to Novosibirsk. I don’t remember what the altitude and temperature said. Although it may have been that "boo-boo-boo" when taxiing. smile
        1. +5
          18 December 2012 11: 47
          Quote: Wedmak
          . I don’t remember saying what height and temperature

          How many flew, constantly announcing altitude, temperature overboard, time and speed of flight.
        2. +1
          18 December 2012 12: 02
          How do they fly in the stratosphere? :-) After the tropopause, there is no winter / summer difference at all, always minus 50 "with kopecks".
          For engines, on the contrary, the colder the better, the mass flow increases, and the wing keeps in the cold better.
          1. +2
            18 December 2012 12: 48
            exactly. the stronger the frosts, the rarer the air and, accordingly, the lower the air resistance. and at an altitude of 10km always below 50-60 below zero!
            1. 0
              18 December 2012 13: 12
              the less exhausted the air

              All the more difficult for the engines to work - they also need air.

              Fkenshchen13, but about the wing in the cold, I did not understand something.
              1. +1
                18 December 2012 15: 05
                There it is the other way round: with the same volume in cold air, the amount of substance is greater than in warm air and, accordingly, more air passes through the same intake section (large mass). Once the compressor has taken more air, then at the same operating temperature in the combustion chamber, a much larger volume of the working fluid will pass through the turbine. Thermal efficiency of the engine (and, accordingly, traction) will increase.
                The same situation with the wing: Lifting force is the difference between the pressure above the wing (P2) and the pressure under the wing (P1). Due to the wing profile, P1 is larger than P2 (a consequence of the Bernoulli law, school physics).
                Suppose in warm air P1 = 150, P2 = 100, so in the end there will be 50 and the resulting vector in the same direction as the action of P1 (i.e. up). We double the pressure: P1 = 300 and P2 = 200, now the difference is already 100.
                1. 120352
                  -2
                  18 December 2012 19: 47
                  Actually, Bernuli’s law doesn’t exist; there’s it, Bernuli, the equation. Not the point. Expand wing profile for supersonic, please expand. So wrong. Take the Directory of Yavorsky B.M. and Detlaf (not inclined) A.A., a year old since 1974, and on page 323 he will find the equalizer in its simplest form.
                  1. +1
                    18 December 2012 20: 38
                    It's cool that I even remember these words what
                    If there is something to enlighten, as you say, how does the wing profile of a supersonic aircraft differ there. I learn something interesting, thanks.
                    And it’s up to you to measure your pussy, without me, you decide with someone thicker.
      2. yustas
        +3
        18 December 2012 11: 46
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And at an altitude of 10 km, what is the temperature now? In the summer, if you were pouring on an airplane, then they say the height is 10 meters, the temperature is minus 000. In winter, and even more. Without heating, you just can’t survive

        I wish you good health =) +
        I can tell you without heating in any way, on the street -35 if you stand at a stop for 40 minutes an army coat starts to freeze .... so they have heating, and why do we need planes in Russia that cannot fly half the time of the year ? hi
        1. 0
          18 December 2012 11: 57
          Well, I asked, for the sake of interest. LTX is of course an important thing, but such trifles also play an important role.
        2. +2
          18 December 2012 12: 06
          In the summer they are also heated, the temperature drop is about 0,65 degrees per 100 meters of altitude, so at an altitude of only 3 meters the air is already colder by 000 degrees (+20 on the surface is +30 per 10 thousand and - 3 to 2 thousand. )
        3. 0
          18 December 2012 16: 24
          Well, how can I say. I somehow walked down the street at a temperature of -64. it was a new urengoy. at this temperature it is possible to work for a while. I think an hour can be sustained. the main thing is that air comes from the system otherwise death. like raptors, now the problem.
    3. +2
      18 December 2012 12: 49
      let them practice. of course it is unlikely, but the enemy can attack in any weather, although it is unlikely that someone will climb to us in the winter soldier
      1. +3
        18 December 2012 13: 13
        In winter, yes ... the experience of previous slayers seems to be remembered.
  5. +20
    18 December 2012 11: 37
    We have become interesting people ... Do not do it, bad. They did it a little .. They did a lot, then they do it badly. Wherever you go, everywhere a dull mumble, how bad everything is. Remember what happened 10 years ago ... Well, what they do! Yes, we need more, but we need to prepare people. After all, industry was in such a knockout that it was amazing how they built these planes. And there is no such thing as the BAC and the hundreds of miles of aircraft. And the country is different and the economy and sharpening of enterprises and fucking perestroika equal to defeat in the war. And who should work? Vocational school systems are not in sight. All lawyers and accountants).
    1. Chapaev
      +1
      18 December 2012 13: 47
      This is not the point, but that they could do more and better! If they stole less at all levels and sensible leaders were also at all levels. And for these 20 years we were just taught to enjoy crumbs, although we could have the most powerful army with our resources.
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        1. djon3volta
          0
          18 December 2012 16: 53
          Yeltsin in the late 90s had a rating of 5% .. the new president of France, Hollande, the rating falls by 2% per month.
  6. +4
    18 December 2012 11: 56
    If the car flies at an acceptable calculated ambient temperature, this is normal. By the way, the temperature limit is given at the airport of departure / arrival and not at the temperature at the level
    1. +2
      18 December 2012 12: 05
      This is probably because the temperature above does not change much.
  7. Vanek
    +3
    18 December 2012 12: 03
    And the spouse would at least say a word that they fly there.

    I’ll torture at night.
  8. -10
    18 December 2012 12: 17
    ONE MORE !!!! ???? soldier It's funny .... but for the "hillock" hundreds ... This is for OGO !!! for idiots ... must be supplied in cadrils laughing
    1. +7
      18 December 2012 12: 23
      Do you know why minus? For hundreds, for idiots and for stupidity.
      1. Vanek
        0
        18 December 2012 12: 28
        And yet, Vladimir is right.
  9. URS21
    +5
    18 December 2012 12: 40
    Stop whining, everything goes according to the plan of the Ministry of Defense, there is a contract for 120 Su-34s until 2020. Or do you want to make 120 pcs. for a month, and then close the plants? Even so, there’s still not enough capacity. Do not worry, by 20 there will be 120 pcs.
    1. Chapaev
      0
      18 December 2012 13: 52
      Yes Yes Yes. We were already promised a flat for every Soviet family by the year 2000. as a result of neither a country nor a fulfilled promise. It is very convenient of course to promise the beautiful far and taxi in the middle of the way later. Of course, I am very worried about our army and my homeland. But look what submarines are going on? First, by 2020 they promised 10 nuclear submarines of each type, then 8, now it’s 7 to 8 by the year 2023. It's a shame that's all. First they provoke, then they cut. Here and here with 120 pieces by 2020 I doubt, unfortunately
      1. +3
        18 December 2012 14: 18
        Quote: Chapaev
        I doubt

        In my opinion, the delivery has begun the most modern technology in the army can not but rejoice! Why so much pessimism and skepticism? After all, it is clear that the situation is beginning to change. Well, nowhere to take hundreds of planes at once, it's not baking pies !!!
        1. Chapaev
          0
          18 December 2012 15: 11
          Yes, the fact of the matter is that it has just begun. And then, small batches of modern samples only go to the Air Force. Armored vehicles, the navy (nuclear submarines, ships of the 1st and 2nd rank) are still at the level of distant plans and conversations. And it is regrettable that with the capabilities of our country, human and natural resources, they could already be at a level not lower than the United States. And so, we can only rejoice at the news "one more plane", "two more helicopters"
          1. 0
            18 December 2012 16: 40
            oh disagree with you. it has now begun - yes, but only ten years have passed. Yes, this is not small on the scale of human life, but it is NOTHING in terms of the state. despite the fact that Russia is developing due to enormous opposition from — firstly, our Western friends and partners, and secondly, corruption. and what are our opportunities ???? fossil fuels - 40% of the budget. There is practically no export of intellectual products (other than defense industry). youth who do not thump on the porches, sits and steeples in online games. and human resources are generally a disaster. 15% are emigrants who do not really know Russian. in general we have a demographic crisis. shorter problems above the roof!
  10. not good
    0
    18 December 2012 14: 30
    If there is stable financing, there will be stability, then the workers will be recruited, and trained, and the equipment will be in the right quantities and of the right quality.
  11. 0
    18 December 2012 16: 22
    Sniper, hello to fraternal Belarus!
  12. toguns
    +1
    18 December 2012 17: 55
    wassat with the world by thread, naked shirt, but in any case, the arrival of new technology is a big plus, both for my country and for the country as a whole.
  13. 120352
    -8
    18 December 2012 19: 42
    There, Mr. Fkenshchen, depicted the wing profile incorrectly. The supersonic profile is reversed!
    And yet, as I read about SU34, everywhere they write that he is falling apart in the air and cannot fly at all. Scrap metal, in a word. For the Foreign countries it will be just right, and we are better off MiG31. By TTX the same as PAK FA T50. Same obsolete.
    1. +2
      18 December 2012 20: 35
      Yes, you are just a fat Troll! How can one be scattered by one’s own ignorance?
      1. Sergh
        0
        19 December 2012 06: 52
        Quote: 120352
        The supersonic profile is reversed!
        And yet, as I read about SU34, everywhere they write that he is falling apart in the air and cannot fly at all. Scrap metal in one word

        My dear, I do not say "study", it will be more precise-have not tried to be treated? I was even ashamed of you, what nonsense you are drilling here.
  14. +1
    18 December 2012 21: 42
    "More good products"! good