Named the number of Ukrainian troops in the Zaporozhye direction

As it has already become clear, the Ukrainian side decided to use the large quantities of Western weapon and accumulated reserves for the counter-offensive in the Zaporozhye direction.

According to the data provided by the representative of the Zaporozhye regional administration Vladimir Rogov, Kyiv concentrated at least 100 troops on the Zaporozhye front. Rogov reported this RIA News.

The total grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, aimed at the Zaporozhye direction, is more than 100 thousand fighters

- said the representative of the administration of the Zaporozhye region.

At the same time, Rogov noted that so far the Armed Forces of Ukraine have involved a relatively small group of these troops in the offensive. According to Rogov, a significant part of the Ukrainian troops is located far from the line of contact in the Dnipropetrovsk region and in the northern part of the Zaporozhye region, which is under the control of Ukraine.

Recall that for several days on the Zaporizhzhya Front, the Ukrainian counteroffensive, which was promised back in winter, has been unsuccessfully going on. Earlier, Rogov reported that the Russian Armed Forces managed last night to repulse another attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine south of the city of Orekhov in the Zaporozhye region.

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[Orange Bigg]

The total grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, aimed at the Zaporozhye direction, is more than 100 thousand fighters

- said the representative of the administration of the Zaporozhye region.

PMC Wagner for the entire time of the assault on Bakhmut, according to American estimates, was opposed by the 160 thousandth group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, despite the fact that PMC Wagner was advancing on a well-equipped fortress.

All this is auxiliary to a more important point. A huge number of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that passed through Bakhmut totaled about 160 people. Assuming a loss rate between 000 and 25% (roughly on par with the Wagner burnout), it is clear that Ukraine's losses were extraordinary. I believe that the total irretrievable losses of Ukraine in Bakhmut amounted to approximately 30 people, with an error of +/- 45.

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Big Serge Thought: "Battle for Bakhmut: postmortem" (translated from English)

[private person]

PMC Wagner for the entire time of the assault on Bakhmut, according to American estimates, was opposed by 160 troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Even Prigozhin himself did not name such a figure, it's 3 times more than the PMC itself.

[Herman 4223]

Well, such a figure was not all at once, it was the number of people who had passed through Artyomovsk since the fall, when the fighting began outside the city.

[Egeny]

Guys, I have an immodest question: where did Rogov, a middle-class official, get such data. A year ago, he would have needed to follow Ukrainian saboteurs in Kakhovka, and not for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[Alekc]

Exactly. And here we must take into account the losses announced by Prigogine, as well as the conditions in the Wagner. I think everyone knows convicts who survived after the meat grinder? Albeit reluctantly, they talk about discipline. Wagner is a unique situation where ours put a lot of friends and foes. Twenty thousand is almost two divisions, just a minute. Plus the wounded.

[Seraphimamur]

And how did Prigozhin calculate how many troops the Ukrainians had near Bakhmut?

[Egeny]

And how did Prigogine count...

yes, like this ... the number of their 200s multiplied by three and 300s multiplied by two. In total, there were more than a hundred thousand fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who were taken from the battlefield to morgues and hospitals. Another fifty thousand withdrew to Chasov Yar.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

according to American estimates, the 160th group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine opposed.

.... yes ... but the piquancy of the situation is added by the fact that those of them who were captured or surrendered were cooks

[Egeny]

who were captured or surrendered

Well, that means they got lucky.

[Silver99]

Let's not chase numbers and scare each other with 100 or 200, it doesn't matter. Only the number of fighters trained and actually fired upon in battles has a value, there are not so many of them in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the rest are targets and consumables. Look at the Wagner PMC, contrary to all the logic of hostilities, they stormed the enemy’s positions, outnumbering them and the losses are not comparable. It is necessary to fight not by numbers but by skill, as the GREAT Alexander Vasilyevich taught and bequeathed.

[Orange Bigg]

So PMC Wagner had an advantage in artillery and ammunition. Again, experience, a competent approach to business.

[private person]

So PMC Wagner had an advantage in artillery and ammunition.

I probably don’t agree with you about the advantage, but PMCs had one big plus. They fought in the same city and their flanks and rear were covered by the RF Armed Forces. While both Vsuki and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in addition, they were fighting along the entire front, and this is not a small extent.

[tsvetahaki]

Here is an interesting question for the "real colonels" not of the Aerospace Forces, but of the infantry (moto) ... How, when attacking a very well-prepared enemy defense in Artemovsk, losses are declared 10: 1 in favor of the ATTENDING ???
I believe in exceptional genius, of course, but nevertheless, they once taught at least 1:3 in favor of the defenders ...

[Guran33 Sergey]

In a classic offensive (by chains, loose formation, etc.) yes 3 to 1, here there is a different type of war, the basis is art, drones of all kinds, attack aircraft "small fights and cleaning up the ruins of cities, so the statistics are different-chest of drawers-killed one , platoon and write a report because of one .. already five killed ....

[Russophile]

1. Read the history of the storming of Berlin.
2. Remember Prigozhin's cries about the insufficient supply of ammunition.
3. Put it together and get the answer.

[private person]

They are probably waiting for the moment when the RF Armed Forces run out of ammunition in this direction, which are spent on the destruction of numerous DRGs, and then the main forces will be brought in. Although the devil knows what the forelocks have in their heads.

[Orange Bigg]

They are waiting for the defense line to be broken in order, following the example of the Kharkov offensive, to introduce reserves into the operational space and go along the rear. Now there are minefields and they can only pass along narrow corridors, as ours previously tried to storm Vgledar, which they approached lining up in a column along the road where there were no minutes. Do you remember those shots? Now the APU has about the same thing, only on a large scale.

[loga.logan2016]

Can ours mine remotely to close existing corridors?

[bayard]

Quote from: loga.logan2016

Can ours mine remotely to close existing corridors?

Of course there is - "Agriculture". But why mine something that is already mined denser nowhere.

Quote from: loga.logan2016

to close already existing corridors?

And how then will the Armed Forces of Ukraine storm? Do you want them to change their mind and go somewhere else? They left the roads exactly for such a yield of burned NATO equipment.
But 100 thousand is a really large group and was intensively prepared for this. So during the next week they will repeat their attempts - the United States and England need Crimea. But if it doesn't work out, improvisations will begin.

[your vsr 66-67]

Quote: private person

They are probably waiting for the moment when the RF Armed Forces run out of ammunition in this direction, which are spent on the destruction of numerous DRGs, and then the main forces will be brought in. Although the devil knows what the forelocks have in their heads.

Indeed, what do ukrofascists have in their heads?! Looks like they are checking the strength of our defense, or they are up to something else! For example, to deplete our defenses physically and financially. I hope in our General Staff they know better what is how much, and do not guess on the coffee grounds like we do.
In any case, our fighters win and return from the battlefield alive! All honest Russia is praying for them!!!

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: private person

They are probably waiting for the moment when the RF Armed Forces run out of ammunition in this direction, which are spent on the destruction of numerous DRGs, and then the main forces will be brought in. Although the devil knows what the forelocks have in their heads.

Yes, it doesn’t interest anyone what’s in their head. Zelensky made a giant PMC out of Ukraine, which the Americans hired and pledged to supply Ukraine with weapons and equipment, and Zelensky and the company receive profits for all this. The goal is to seize Russia. and he had to fulfill the contract.

[Al manah]

Yes, no one cares what they have in their head.

Too bad if that's true. For some reason, in all ages it was considered necessary to find out the plans of the enemy.

[terms]

Well, when all the missiles from the Russian Federation run out, the forelocks have already waited)) It seems that somewhere in the spring of 2022 =)))

[Borodamot]

I haven't written for a long time, but this phrase fascinates me. For such a front, we will never run out of ammunition. Even the existing capacities of the chemical metallurgical and related industries will be enough to provide ammunition for this, in fact, a small theater of war for a time comparable to the life of several generations of people. We can lose this war only because of the lack of brains and lack of faith in our own goals (sufficient motivation of the LS).

[terms]

We can lose only in the absence of the physical ability to produce the necessary weapons and the physical absence of people to replenish the front. Enough motivation. Belgorod also seemed to show that the population is becoming more and more angry. But certainly not the other way around. And than malice - not motivation. Well, physically preventing us from releasing weapons can only prevent everyone from understanding that - the West will not agree to this. Are they suicidal?

[Sith]

Quote from Orange Bigg

The total grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, aimed at the Zaporozhye direction, is more than 100 thousand fighters

- said the representative of the administration of the Zaporozhye region.

PMC Wagner for the entire time of the assault on Bakhmut, according to American estimates, was opposed by the 160 thousandth group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, despite the fact that PMC Wagner was advancing on a well-equipped fortress.

All this is auxiliary to a more important point. A huge number of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that passed through Bakhmut totaled about 160 people. Assuming a loss rate between 000 and 25% (roughly on par with the Wagner burnout), it is clear that Ukraine's losses were extraordinary. I believe that the total irretrievable losses of Ukraine in Bakhmut amounted to approximately 30 people, with an error of +/- 45.

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Big Serge Thought: "Battle for Bakhmut: postmortem" (translated from English)

100 thousand is probably the whole number ... how many attack aircraft are there, and how many special personnel are not clear ... and again ... the numbers are approximate or stolen from somewhere

[igorbrsv]

And I am of the same opinion. Of the units prepared for the offensive, no more than 60 remained. The rest were turbobots. The second tank brigade of the three planned for the offensive was introduced into the battle.
This is if you believe that 80 Vushniks and three tank brigades trained by imported instructors were originally supposed to participate in the offensive

[rocket757]

Named the number of Ukrainian troops in the Zaporozhye direction

. What does it change???
Just more firewood...

[invisible_man]

They also shoot and hit. And not bad.

[Orange Bigg]

For the VKS, 100 thousand APU grouping, albeit a dispersed, tasty target. Especially on the way to the front line. The main thing is to cope with air defense.

[terms]

Nobody denies this. The question is rather in the ratio of hits =) Moreover, now they are at the attacking stage, and ours are at the defending stage. They had 1 to a lot of losses in defense, but in attack it’s generally tough. Well, plus, we must not forget that our positions are also not cardboard boxes - living people. Who know how to think and act. It's easy to shoot at cardboard boxes during exercises. And in battle, cardboard boxes can run, and they themselves can shoot back, and be the first.

[rocket757]

Guess, don't guess... the results of the next big batch will be visible, understandable to everyone and immediately...
They will try to spread some kind of informational dregs, but this, in principle, cannot change anything.

[terms]

+1. You won't get far on some stuffing, because we live in the physical world. And the shells in the face arrive quite physical. And stuffing still needs to be able to throw it in well - as if we now have real recordings from drones flying around the public quite decently. It seems that the MO was given carte blanche.

[tralflot1832]

Does anyone know what that pip is in the background?

[Orange Bigg]

In my opinion, the Czech MLRS Vampire. If I'm not mistaken, of course. They got one of these with a full BC Lancet. There was a video on this site. Nothing was left of it.

[Fangaro]

This is how the Bandera hordes look in the photo in the header?
Didn't have time to post something else?

[Irek]

They haven’t decided yet, or the owners didn’t give the go-ahead ...

[Orange Bigg]

If you were in the trench right now, you wouldn't feel that way.

[opuonmed]

it is necessary to apply mass destruction in such groups from fab and vacuum to something serious!

[Ezekiel 25-17]

100000: That's enough for them for one month.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Fronta jako do mlýnku na maso.., když je hloupá hlava, trpí celé tělo..

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

The queue is like a meat grinder .. when the head is dull, the whole body suffers ..

[Carmela]

And how does Rogov know this? Did Zelensky report to him?

[opposite28]

The total grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, aimed at the Zaporozhye direction, is more than 100 thousand fighters

- said the representative of the administration of the Zaporozhye region.

Zaporozhye administration always knows everything about everyone. A quite logical question arises, why did the Zaporozhye administration, having knowledge of everyone previously being part of Mrs. Ukraine, allow, to put it mildly, internecine hostility in the controlled area and deliberately righted the conflict?! Are they really (the Zaporizhzhya administration and "Zaporizhzhya partisans") with Russia and accept the demands of the Russian Federation, as well as the Russian population.

[km-21]

The motivation of the fighters is of great importance. There are two considerations in this regard.
1. Some of the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine may well guess about the unenviable role of Ukraine in this war and therefore are not too eager to fight. She is ready to go into battle only either under the threat of violence or under the influence of psychotropic drugs.
2. Another part of the fighters is in a hatred mood, since Kiev propaganda for a long time inspired them with a dismissive attitude towards the enemy. Because they are ready to fight frantically, with an underestimation of the real danger.
Both of these significantly reduce the effectiveness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the battlefield, if these factors are properly taken into account by the Russian command.

[thepuppeteer]

Poor Boys... Dreaming to Become heroes but will be forgotten soon..

[Oleg Fedechkin]

Yes, it's on fire!!! Just after their offensive, they will go nuts!!!!

[MakStVik]

We have no air support! The whole counteroffensive is suicide! Even with the help of American intelligence. People in Ukraine turned their heads off.

[certero]

Quote from Silver99

It is necessary to fight not by numbers but by skill, as the GREAT Alexander Vasilyevich taught and bequeathed.

Suvorov did not at all propose to fight with a smaller number against a larger one.
The skill just consisted in creating, having even less strength, local superiority over the enemy and defeating him piece by piece.
Actually, all the great commanders, including the marshals of victory, acted in this way.
To create superiority over the enemy - this is the art of war.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

If these idiots collect 100 in one direction, this is the end of the Khokhlyat army ...

[the same doctor]

That's where you need to shoot with hail, and not through empty fields.
This parade lasted more than one hour. Couldn't you have done something?