Official Warsaw stated that the Polish corps invading the Belgorod region has nothing to do with the Polish state

Official Warsaw reacted to the information that Polish mercenaries also carried out sorties from the territory of Ukraine to the Russian Belgorod region. We are talking about the so-called "Polish Volunteer Corps" (PDK) - * a terrorist group banned in Russia. Members of a Polish gang some time ago published a photo showing a removed sign "Post of Russia" from one of the rural branches of the Belgorod region.

The Polish authorities declared that the MPC* "has nothing to do with the Polish state as such."

Statement by Stanislav Zharin, a spokesman for the Polish Ministry of Intelligence:

The Polish corps described in the media is in no way connected with the Polish army and with any other official institution of our country.

Earlier, information appeared that the Poles penetrated the territory of the Russian Federation, having at their disposal the Polish and American weapon and military equipment. Polish experts say that the group can be supervised by the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine. At the same time, it is unlikely that the Polish authorities were not aware of such activities, although they are trying to pretend that they remain aloof from the invasion of Russia.

Comments

[Palestinian]

and what does it have to do with the state of Burkina Faso or something)))

[fruc]

... the Polish corps has nothing to do with the army of Poland and with any other official institution

If possible, these Polish militants should be taken alive and shown in handcuffs in the media space, then watch how official Warsaw sings, and their relatives will be immediately found.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: frruc

Polish fighters, if possible, should be taken alive

Drive into the barn and burn this infection.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Better to sell for a $1 million ransom. After all, they have nothing to do with the Polish army and are not citizens of Ukraine. There will be more benefits. Yes, and the bonus to the unit that took it can be paid from this money.

[Shurik70]

Quote: frruc

must be taken alive and shown in handcuffs

It is better to show a number of corpses. And if the names become known, then very well.
So it's more convincing.
Moreover, Poland is "officially not against", recognizing that these are mercenaries and terrorists, and not its citizens.

[ramzay21]

They knew about the Poles both in Poland and in NATO, and this is their trial balloon, and if there is no cruel answer, then new balloons will appear in the form of other NATO soldiers. A tough response may be in the form of a complete withdrawal from START-3, the installation of all available warheads on carriers, the announcement of the evacuation of embassies and citizens from NATO countries, the withdrawal of all SSBNs to the sea, bringing all strategic nuclear forces to full combat readiness, the dispersal of all strategic bombers to different airfields and the installation of missiles with nuclear warheads on them.
At the same time, the Ministry of Defense should be purged, with the removal of Shoigu and Gerasimov, as well as Muradov, Dvornikov, Lapin, the former boss and other shabby generals and putting them on trial, and at the same time go to the Criminal Code of the RSFSR, which provided for adequate penalties for such criminals as they are with the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty and restore the confiscation of property, the new command must draw up a realistic plan to mobilize and provide the mobilized with everything necessary, including the purchase of shells and weapons in China, Iran and North Korea, and finally smash the bridges across the Dnieper and tunnels with aqueducts in western Ukraine.
In addition, purges in the military-industrial complex should be carried out, the Chemezov gang should be neutralized and arrested, with their return to court under the Criminal Code of the RSFSR, where for the theft of state property on an especially large scale, VMN with confiscation of property and the appointment of techies instead of thieves and bandits focused on results.
Also, a single strike should be inflicted on Poland, for example, on the Rzeszow base as a response to the Poles' invasion of our country, before which all strategic bombers with nuclear weapons on board should be lifted into the air. Only the toughest and most resolute actions and not idle chatter can stop the NATO countries from taking further steps. But only now our Kremlin hare is not capable of such steps, that's why they are greyhounds.

[vova1910]

Quote: ramzay21

But only now our Kremlin hare is not capable of such steps

You do not respect the supreme

[KLM77]

Looking at how the NWO is being carried out, those who respect him have decreased, loud words, but in fact a step forward and regrouping. How long can this go on!

[Akuzenka]

switch to the Criminal Code of the RSFSR, which provided for adequate penalties for such criminals as they are, with the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty and restore the confiscation of property,

As it was in one of the jokes: "Vladimir Vladimirovich, he will not allow such lawlessness in the country."

[nickname7]

bringing all strategic nuclear forces to full combat readiness

your ghosts and pantomimes are of no interest to anyone.

At the same time, the Ministry of Defense must undergo purges, with the removal of Shoigu and Gerasimov from their posts

Bring all the troops to full readiness and remove Shoigu and Gerasimov from their posts, what are you smoking there?

Poland must be dealt a single blow

Stupidity, because NATO will also strike at the Russian Federation.

[ramzay21]

your ghosts and pantomimes are of no interest to anyone.

The movement of forces capable of turning the civilized countries of the masters into a primitive herd is of interest to everyone, regardless of whether they show this interest or not.

Bring all the troops to full readiness and remove Shoigu and Gerasimov from their posts, what are you smoking there?

The removal of the commander of the troops at Kholkin Gol in the midst of the fighting and replacing him with Zhukov only strengthened the troops, and there are many other similar examples, so your argument is untenable. But the results of a ten-year management of the army by untrained degenerates are visible, and their continued presence in these places only exacerbates the situation.

Stupidity, because NATO will also strike at the Russian Federation.

Cowardice has not yet led anyone to victory, and allowing the Poles to invade our country with impunity is cowardice and a violation of our own Law. Only tough and resolute actions can stop NATO from getting further involved in this conflict. In addition, NATO is hardly ready to start a war in which their countries will disappear due to a just blow to the Poles.

[Denis812]

OK, hit Rzeszow.
The United States will respond by hitting Kaliningrad, for example.
From the territory of Poland TNW. And hit 100 percent. They cannot NOT strike back.
Do you think that for some reason America will be stopped by a strike on Rzeszow?
Why? And, most importantly, what do we get as a result? We killed a certain number of Poles, they killed a certain number of Russians.
What's next? War with NATO?

I have been to Rzeszow a couple of times and my opinion is that if an asphalted area appears instead of this city, nature will not lose much. Although there is a beautiful Old Town.
But I'm not ready to sacrifice Kaliningrad for this.

[Victor Leningradets]

Better sell for a $1 million ransom

And for 10 million to give in addition the Hero of Russia?
Trade has infected us, that's where we need to clean!
These "geese" have only one fate - death. Send those cut off from corpses to Warsaw for a genetic examination, let them solemnly bury them.

[Rumata]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Drive into the barn and burn this infection.

You are a sadist! It is necessary to take them to Katyn and humanely shoot them in the back of the head. Tradition!

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Rumata

You are a sadist!

I am economical. There is no need to waste resources on transportation. And ammo costs money. And in place of the forest, broken and burnt shaft. I don't want to burn.

[saigon]

Hang by the scrotum and pull up until the rupture of the vocal cords.
But seriously, most likely they will not be taken prisoner.

[nordscout]

As for Katyn, Rumat, you are in vain! Katyn is not our work. It was a historical and political "stuffing" (writing) of Gorbachev's henchmen in the person of Judas Yakovlev .... To "please" the West + the USA and cheat the USSR ... Even the current Supreme, at one time, "bought" on the "Katyn duck" ... It is necessary to be more careful with historical facts, Mr. Rumata! And all this Polish evil spirits - in plastic bags to their homeland, it will be more convincing and intelligible for both Poland and the EU ....

[KLM77]

This is not our "tradition"! In Katyn, the Germans did their best and it was proved. But the deputies-prostitutes of the new Russia "did not know" this.

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

How did the Nazis do, locking them in a barn and burning them?

[agoran]

Do not take the Poles. According to all reports, no one takes them, they are destroyed on the spot.

[azkolt]

Quote: frruc

... the Polish corps has nothing to do with the army of Poland and with any other official institution

If possible, these Polish militants should be taken alive and shown in handcuffs in the media space, then watch how official Warsaw sings, and their relatives will be immediately found.

I think that there will be more likely to be found those who want to exchange them quickly. You have to earn points in the West, especially when everything is crumbling here!

[Oleg Fedechkin]

You are pouring in Ukraine, but where does Russia!!!! Polish citizens will restore Belgorod!!!

[Mister X]

Quote: frruc

taken alive and shown in handcuffs in the media space

Previously, foreigners were taken, they were shown, they were threatened with the death penalty, then they were exchanged.
Do you want repetition?

[nordscout]

Dear fruc! These Polish "dogs-knights" should not be shown in handcuffs in the media - space, sent in plastic bags to their homeland .... This will be clearer and more intelligible ...

[nordscout]

Dear fruc! These Polish "dogs-knights" should not be shown in handcuffs in the media - space, sent in plastic bags to their homeland .... This will be clearer and more intelligible ...

[Victor Leningradets]

Entirely difficult.
Cut off from the corpse - in vacuum packaging and sending home, let them identify.

[tsvetahaki]

Polish fighters, if possible, should be taken alive

The key word is "if possible" - but the possibilities are not very good, since they are not afraid to climb.
Now, if some "Russian corps described in the media, which is in no way connected with the Russian army and with any other official institution of our country" accidentally fools around on the territory of Poland, then something can move.
But for this, alas, as the enemies say, iron balls are needed, and not red lines in the form of snot ...

[Pravodel]

If possible, these Polish militants should be taken alive and shown in handcuffs in the media space

Then publicly judge and hang like reptiles = mercenaries who kill ours ...

[Thrifty]

That is, we were secretly given to understand that these Polish speakers can be impaled upon capture?

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

On the basis of what laws of the Russian Federation are you going to impale someone? Or is it from the series "boasting while sitting at home on the couch"?

[zloybond]

They will call the Ambassador, express their concern, and snort. This will end.
It is high time to start paying the West and the US in the same coin. It is full of all sorts of rebels and other opposition. It is necessary for them to transfer captured weapons (Stingers, etc.) produced in Europe and the USA, which are supplied to the outskirts of Russia. After that, let this opposition make a stir in Europe and America. Let them feel our love on their skin. If anything, we simply returned this weapon. Well, there, somehow, let them figure it out for themselves, whether they need such supplies or something.

[svp67]

Quote: Palestinian

and what does it have to do with the state of Burkina Faso or something)))

Yes, quite normal "ihtamnets" and "vacationers" working for the Military Intelligence Service of the Polish Army

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

Well, when the Ukrainians said that armed Russian detachments were fighting on the side of the LPR and DPR, did our officials tell me that these armed detachments had nothing to do with the armed forces of the Russian Federation and other official organizations?

[Borik]

Since a Pole means to Poland, it still has a relationship.

[Nexcom]

Oga, that means anyone with the last name ala bzdyshek is a Pole and it doesn’t matter whose passport he has. And then they deny their own .... Well, well ....

[Repellent]

Quote: Nexcom

it means anyone with the last name ala bzdyshek - that is, a Pole

Bzdyshek is the name. His surname is Vsespansky.

[vik669]

They beat not on the passport, but on the face ... and quite seriously, but unofficially!

[UAZ 452]

Well, we weren't the first to invent ihtamnets.

[Pravodel]

Since a Pole means to Poland, it still has a relationship.

Yes, well, what are you. If such a bastard is caught, then Poland will immediately declare that this is a disguised Ukrainian who learns the Polish language and abandoned the Ukrainian and Russian languages. And he lived somewhere in Canada, and now he returned to his native land in order to win back the damned Muscovites from the damned Muscovites and return the Polish lands occupied by Muscovites to their homeland - Poland.

[Alexander Antonov_2]

There were no Poles on our land for a hundred years. If only Catherine II would have been surprised.

[Aken]

She would say - what a shame, descendants!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Alexander Antonov_2

There were no Poles on our land for a hundred years.

Yeah, they forgot Tukhachevsky ...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Alexander Antonov_2

There were no Poles on our land for a hundred years.

Yeah, they forgot Tukhachevsky ...

We remember Rokosovsky! We honor Dzerzhinsky.

[Oleg Fedechkin]

Stalin got rid of this shit!! Although the progressive guy was!! He organized a chemical attack on the peasants, and yes, tank corps from T26 !!!

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

Yes, the chemical attack was more for intimidation, since either 4 or 5 chemical shells were used up, which is nothing at all

[Michael]

The ashes of False Dmitry knock in their hearts.

[lisikat2]

Actually, only one False Dmitry was burned, and there were 3 of them

[Michael]

Quote from lisikat2

Actually, only one False Dmitry was burned, and there were 3 of them

The ashes of False Dmitryev are knocking in their hearts! Is that better?
And Maria Mniszek, who had climbed with all three, and imprisoned in the Mariinsky tower of the Kolomna Kremlin, turned into a crow and flew away. By the way ...... A very beautiful city and tourists have a place to walk.

[Argon]

Declare, do not declare, we already know what kind of nonhumans you are.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

It is necessary to complete the work begun by Count Muravyov Vilensky in 1831.

[Vladimir M]

Formally, the state of Poland has nothing to do with MPC. At the same time, it is clear that the Polish intelligence services are working closely with the MPC, it would be strange if it were otherwise.

[spirit]

What did you want? Pandora's box has been open for a long time, now everyone has a bunch of proxy forces. Turks, Poles, the USA, we generally have PMCs that violate all laws. to do something now. Why be surprised? (((

[The popuas]

I didn’t see T90s entering Poland ... with the guys from Wagner

[agoran]

Hmm, well, the Poles have been participating for a long time. How many Polish Krabs have already been destroyed with Polish crews.
There are more than 2000 Poles in the military cemetery in the Olsztyn Voivodeship. It hasn't been a secret for a long time.

[Bingo]

Let's start diplomatic games, but the pshek's position is obviously losing:
1) If they don’t, why aren’t they prosecuted for mercenarism?
2) If they don’t, then now it’s exemplary to shoot, how they get captured, and answering Poland is none of your puppy business, they have nothing to do with you
And this is just offhand, diplomats will pull out of this situation to the fullest

[UAZ 452]

Yes Yes. It's like the "Azovites" were shot after Mariupol, how were they threatened?

[azkolt]

Quote from Bingo

Let's start diplomatic games, but the pshek's position is obviously losing:
1) If they don’t, why aren’t they prosecuted for mercenarism?
2) If they don’t, then now it’s exemplary to shoot, how they get captured, and answering Poland is none of your puppy business, they have nothing to do with you
And this is just offhand, diplomats will pull out of this situation to the fullest

Pleased with the last offer! All the same, we still have optimists!)))

[Bingo]

Quote: azkolt

All the same, we still have optimists!)))

And then! One optimist has a birthday today, wish him long years, by the way, without any optimism they will soon add - very long years))) Do you know such an optimist? "Mvzdesvostvo", professional panty tailor from Petushki

[azkolt]

Quote from Bingo

Quote: azkolt

All the same, we still have optimists!)))

And then! One optimist has a birthday today, wish him long years, by the way, without any optimism they will soon add - very long years))) Do you know such an optimist? "Mvzdesvostvo", professional panty tailor from Petushki

Congratulations, of course, especially since I have it tomorrow. But I really don't want it to come tomorrow!)))

[Repellent]

Quote: azkolt

All the same, we still have optimists!)))

As, however, and hysterical squirrels. Each creature - a pair.

[dump22]

1, There is no article for mercenarism in Poland. PMCs are completely officially allowed there.
2. It is impossible to shoot prisoners, no matter what nationality they are, if they are recognized as combatants. The international legal definition of a combatant is in the 4nd Hague Convention.

[kamakama]

You can't shoot prisoners of war. It is possible to introduce an article with capital punishment for terrorists. A purely criminal local procedure, especially if the act was committed on the territory of the Russian Federation and is under the jurisdiction of the local court. CBO is a real legal nightmare for lawyers, since the wording "war" and "fighting" are very different. By the way, why are they combatants? They are not citizens of the conflicting parties, and therefore they are not just them.

[dump22]

It is possible to introduce an article with capital punishment for terrorists.

Why mess around like that, why be smart? Just spit on all these conventions and that's it!

the wording "war" and "fighting" are very different

The conventions are not only about war, but also about "armed conflicts".
CWO fits this perfectly.

and why are they combatants? They are not citizens of the conflicting parties

There is no citizenship requirement for combatants.
And you must admit that this is quite reasonable, otherwise you would have been captured without documents (that is, you cannot prove your citizenship with documents) and immediately you will be at an expense.

And besides, in some states you can join the country's army without having the citizenship of the country. For example, you probably know that in Russia it is quite possible for foreigners to serve under a contract in the RF Armed Forces.

[kamakama]

Quote from: dump22

There is no citizenship requirement for combatants.
And you must admit, this is quite reasonable, otherwise you would have been captured without documents (that is, you cannot prove your citizenship with documents) and immediately you will be at an expense

E no. If you fell into the hands of the enemy as part of the captured troops of the opposite side, and even with a weapon in your hands in addition or with traces of its use (such as bruises on your shoulders), then you cannot be any combatant unless you can prove that you are a soldier hostile state. Otherwise, this is a general criminal case (if all this happens within the borders of the "old Russian Federation", then this 100% cannot be refuted at all) and at least illegal border crossing, participation in a robbery, an act of terrorism, serious bodily, murders are sewn and all by prior arrangement. Maybe there's something else in there, it's hard to say.
The problem is that what is legal in one country may be illegal in another neighboring country. And to whom to answer in case of something - a big question based on politics and other considerations that change every day

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote from: dump22

It is impossible to shoot prisoners, no matter what nationality they are.

there are conflicts here
Combatant (from French Combatant - fighting) - a person who takes a direct part in hostilities as part of the armed forces of one of the parties to an international armed conflict and has a special legal status in this capacity (the definition of a combatant is directly or indirectly contained in LCIII and API to the Geneva Conventions).

Non-combatants (non-combatants, French non-combattants - “non-combatants”) - persons who are part of the armed forces, whose functions are limited to servicing and ensuring the combat activities of the armed forces, and who have the right to use weapons only for self-defense.

In international law, non-combatants are persons who are not part of the armed forces of the warring states, but also although they are part of the army (as service personnel), but not directly involved in the battle with weapons in their hands.

Mercenary. - is a criminalwho is not entitled to the status of combatant or prisoner of war. A mercenary is a person who acts in order to receive material reward and is not a citizen of a state participating in an armed conflict or hostilities, who does not permanently reside on its territory, and is also not a person sent to perform official duties.

[nepunamemuk]

it turns out cooks drivers musicians - non-combatants?

[ivan2022]

Quote from: nepunamemuk

it turns out cooks drivers musicians - non-combatants?

And if from the cook, then they must be saints? . At least the Polish mercenaries do not require shells from the Polish defense mines, which means that the government has a free hand.

[Bingo]

Quote from: dump22

The international legal definition of a combatant is in the 4th Hague Convention.

Why didn't they bring it? Ahh, there is an ambush - he must be not just a citizen of a warring country, but also a soldier in the army of this country. that is, the Right Sector, the Foreign Legion and other bastards are not any combatants, and since they also have nothing to do with Poland, laws do not apply to them:
* Russian
* Ukrainian
* Polish
* International
* ... as well as all sorts of conventions, because they are not combatants ...

[dump22]

he must not just be a citizen of a warring country

Should not. There is no such requirement for combatants.
For example, you probably know that in Russia it is quite possible for foreigners to serve under a contract in the RF Armed Forces. And once in Ukrainian captivity, they will be combatants.

but also to the military personnel of the army of this country

No. The militia and in general any "volunteers" can be considered as part of the enemy's army.
Direct quote:
... militia or volunteer detachments in those countries where they constitute an army or are part of it, are understood as the name of the army ...

[kamakama]

This convention is almost 100 years old, during which there have been many different wars and conflicts. The practice of application is the same as before the First World War - during conflicts, they sneezed at all sorts of conventions and used their own unwritten rules such as not capturing flamethrowers, it was not customary to capture tankers in the First World War, and so on. It was only later, after the end, this piece of paper was taken out and there was a reason to imprison and execute people additionally. By the way, the approach to "unlimited submarine warfare" was very interesting - suppose that a certain transport worker agrees to surrender to a surfaced submarine. But on the boat there is neither room for so many prisoners, nor a prize crew for a captured ship? There are not enough boats for everyone, they were damaged during the battle. What to do?
Approximately similarly - a certain group goes behind enemy lines and stumbles upon a sentinel post. Oops, they decided to surrender, but what to do with them? There is no one to return behind the front lines, and this is a direct violation of the order, they will shoot their own. Take it with you - why the hell? They will slow down, maybe yell. Here is one way out - in consumption. Maybe, due to excessive humanity, they are swaddled and gagged, and maybe in a few hours someone will find it.

[solar]

This convention is almost 100 years old, during which there have been many different wars and conflicts.

The obligation to comply with the Convention by all parties is confirmed by the decision of the Nuremberg Tribunal and is part of the domestic legislation of countries that recognize its decision - that is, almost all.

[kamakama]

The devil is in the details - in the shoot-outs between Kosovo and Serbia, say, or Abkhazia and Georgia - are there prisoners of war or separatists who are subject to ordinary criminal prosecution and to whom no conventions apply? For some countries, Kosovo is a full-fledged country with all rights, for others it is a rebellious territory where no Conventions are in force, but only internal criminal law. About the Chechen wars - the same question
The recognition of Kosovo is a Pandora's box, the opening of which was seen by very few. It essentially buried the 50-year-old relatively stable system of the Nuremberg Peace (well, or better known as the Yalta-Potsdam Treaty), as the Westphalian and Vienna systems of international relations used to be
And, also Israel - there is generally legal chaos in relation to any subjects that are recognized by someone as dangerous for the country. The Golan Heights, the shelling of Lebanon, the destruction of all reactors, and so on, up to the persecution of the enemy's family, which is expressly prohibited by all the Conventions. Have something to add?

[kamakama]

And more, about foreign volunteers. And where is that fine line that distinguishes him from a mercenary? Well, who entered into a conflict out of selfish motives? Just do not fill in about the obvious and about the presumption of innocence. We proceed from the practical meaning - ANY confirmation of the receipt of money or other material benefits from the enemy state is the very self-interest

[dump22]

And where is that fine line that distinguishes him from a mercenary?

There is no such limit.
It's all about the emotional coloring of the term.
Volunteer - went to serve voluntarily, for money or maybe not.
Mercenary - went to serve voluntarily, for money.

In the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation there is article 359 for mercenarism, there is such a note to it:

... A mercenary is a person who acts in order to obtain material reward and is not a citizen of a state participating in an armed conflict or hostilities, not permanently residing in its territory, as well as not being a person sent to perform official duties.

- that is, if a foreigner lives and fights constantly (and this is how much? A month, six months?), even if for money, then it is already considered not a mercenary!

[kamakama]

Well, that's all - it's enough to ask to say "fly" and find at least one paper hryvnia in your pocket. If the shibollet fails, and there is a hryvnia in your pocket, it means that the foreigner receives money from the state, and, as a result, the mercenary

[Victor Leningradets]

My father had a school friend. He served as an interpreter at the headquarters.
He visited us. I remember he told my father the story of how, as a lieutenant, he led a column of prisoners who fought on the side of Germany of our compatriots. Moreover, the escort was given to him practically by a platoon - and all with machine guns, and it is clear that the soldiers are experienced. Well, he brought them, reports to the major-special officer, and he told him: so-you-rastak, I now draw them up, mess around for what the platoon was given? - to when trying to escape!

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

And remember how volunteers with Russian passports fought on the side of the LPR and DPR, many cases were brought against them for mercenarism? They started it in Belarus, but I don’t remember something in the Russian Federation

[alystan]

Described in media the Polish corps is in no way connected with the army of Poland and with any other official institution of our country.

With informal, therefore, has? If evidence comes up, will they shout that this is Moscow's provocation? And they, rest assured gentlemen, will definitely emerge.

[Chief Officer Lom]

The Polish state renounced them, they are outside any laws and cannot be considered prisoners of war. But it is expensive to maintain them for life, can they be leased to the Taliban, let the Chinese develop deposits there, since we ourselves are "not like that"?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Chief Officer Lom

can lease them to the Taliban

you don’t need to lease, it’s better to sell for cheap than to return these arrogant gentlemen after

[Chief Officer Lom]

You can't sell it, it's a slave trade. But in the most advanced democracy in the world (the United States, of course), private prisons with forced labor of prisoners supplied there by the state judicial system have been in fashion for some time now. There are persistent rumors that in places where they use their services, the length of real terms has increased, and the number of suspended sentences has decreased. So the Taliban, by agreement of the parties concerned, will organize a private correctional institution on the basis of some kind of quarry, and we are the Poles to wait for them. As the "creative" class likes to say, we will organize an outsourced "sanatorium" for them))

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

Well, Abramovich personally flew in the British mercenaries who were captured (so that his accounts in England would be unfrozen), for these, one of our oligarchs may also fly in, or a gesture of goodwill from the Russian state

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

You read the ideas of some commentators and you are horrified by what people have in their heads - from the slave trade and impalement to burning in sheds and nuclear strikes on cities. And the question arises, who are these commentators - maniacs, sadists, fascists? One thing is clear - with such ideas they are definitely NOT PEOPLE!

[sdivt]

Quote: Borik

Since a Pole means to Poland, it still has a relationship.

It is very difficult to believe official Warsaw, but it is also difficult to reject the arguments
And if we recall the so-called Russian volunteer corps, which, as part of the DRG, invaded the Bryansk region?
Did Russia send him to himself?
The concept of mercenarism is not invented today
We need alive, able to "sing", detainees. Only then can something be proven

[kventinasd]

Here in the cart there was a good comment from military correspondents that, as evidence of the presence of Polish warriors on the territory of the Belgorod region, it is necessary to spray the corpses of these mercenaries from aircraft on the Polish border. Maybe it will come to the psheks that no one takes these excuses seriously for a long time.

[Horon]

it is necessary to spray corpses from aircraft on the Polish border

We are not rich enough to give them such a magnificent funeral.

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

And then these scattered corpses will twist and squeal through all the channels of the world "look what Russian animals, let's fight them together" .... You should not listen to any talkers who carry crazy ideas

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

It turned out that this game can be played not only by two, but even by three. "Anyone can buy uniforms and weapons in the military department", "they took a vacation", "resigned yesterday" - do you remember everything?

[Bingo]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

"they took a vacation", "resigned yesterday" - everyone remembers?

Blackwater in Iraq? Or the founder of the SAS, Colonel Stirling, with his PMC? So it's been 60 years since then!

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Generally by. Blackwater and Stirling would be on point if the conversation was about Wagner. But "voentorg" and "took a vacation" - this is not about PMCs at all. This was exactly according to Shoigu's department. Remember, it was not the Wagnerites who were exchanged for the Ukrainian pilot, but two quite GRU officers "on vacation".

And, by the way, the Stirling story hints at what such garbage leads to. In the end, he wanted to "put things in order" at home.

[Bingo]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

This was exactly according to Shoigu's department.

Baby, Stirling went through the department of the British Ministry of Defense, and PMCs in the USA are accountable to the Pentagon, that's right, without any exaggeration - they report. it is in the Pentagon, that's how it is for a start. And the colonel just "took a vacation" and flew along with the SAS to carry out the tasks of the British Ministry of Defense

[Repellent]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

It turned out that this game can be played not only by two, but even by three.

Yes, at least ten. How many of them are there, those Poles? Statistically insignificant value. For now, anyway. Don't run ahead of the locomotive, Yasha.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

It turned out that this game can be played not only by two, but even by three. "Anyone can buy uniforms and weapons in the military department", "they took a vacation", "resigned yesterday" - do you remember everything?

International Practice of Warfare. Mercenaries and volunteers. Ours in Republican Spain, in Korea, in Vietnam. The presence of their mercenaries is natural and, as it were, they will disappear in all wars.

[Katya_Ivanova]

And I said that it would be so, but, as always, I was downvoted. Now the Americans can launch their army into the territory of the Russian Federation and say that they have nothing to do with the American state. And in general, all of NATO can enter without flags. And what? What does the nuclear doctrine say about this? That there can be no winners in a nuclear war and therefore it should never be unleashed?

[Tryams]

what are you doing, are you taking a steam bath or what?) you always have your own content (thoughts), it is interesting to read
the avatar is not always visible among all
adequates do not care about all sorts of + - from full-time balabols who kill the life of readers with their copy-paste fz whom or by parasitizing on working moments of their own.
assert themselves, so forget it))
there is no need to feel sorry for them either, but to put them in jail for such a murder - yes - that's what I think%)

[Chernorechye]

It is a pity that the Poles cannot be punished for their vile deeds. Mercenaries of all stripes roam with impunity on Russian territory.

[agoran]

It is very possible. Poles love Warsaw and Krakow very much. If Iskander arrives and there is nothing left of Warsaw, perhaps he will reason with him.

[Egoza]

Quote: agoran

If Iskander arrives and there is nothing left of Warsaw, perhaps he will reason with him.

Moreover, there are a lot of Ukrainians there. Let's thank them.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: agoran

If Iskander arrives and there is nothing left of Warsaw, perhaps he will reason with him.

Moreover, there are a lot of Ukrainians there. Let's thank them.

There are a lot of our relocators too!

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

We alone are immortal. The old men with big stars in NATO and the Department of Internal Affairs, who at the staff exercises came to the conclusion that the use of tactical nuclear weapons most likely leads to the use of strategic nuclear weapons - fools against us.

[stankow]

When it happened, what headquarters teachings that have already influenced the nuclear doctrine? Don't imagine!

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

Can Russian mercenaries roam with impunity in other states (for example, Africa)?

[lisikat2]

"In no way connected with the army of Poland * point by point
1) they served in the Polish army. It's iron. So, at least indirectly, but connected
2) in certain cases, it is beneficial to be "independent" If, all is well, one of the officials confirms that the MPC is connected with official structures If it does not "burn out *, they will say, what do we have to do with it?

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

And the Russian "vacationers" also served in the Russian Army, according to your logic, are they also indirectly involved? ... Polite people in Crimea how?

[Tryams]

In other words, Poland officially declares that it is the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Or not?

But the tool is interesting, i.e. you can liberate Poland in general by left-wing dudes with stories "it's not us."
Mr. Prigozhin, buy bodies in Africa and act, please.

[Chief Officer Lom]

Great idea, but why so dismissively about the inhabitants of Africa. They fully deserved their chance to take revenge on the Europeans for the centuries of slavery and the ruin of Africa, and in the Central African Republic, Prigogine has already proved that the lack of education of the locals is a myth invented by the Europeans (in this case, the French) to cover up their sabotage and theft. There have already been reports that crowds of volunteers from Syria and Africa are eager to help us in Ukraine in the fight against Europe, but "we are not like that."

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Chief Officer Lom

crowds of volunteers from Syria and Africa are eager to help us in Ukraine

Why do we need blacks and other Arabs in Ukraine? Still get used. That's when it's time to tickle Poldsha, then it makes sense to attract.

[kakvastam]

Ihtamnets are a double-edged tool, there is nothing to be surprised at.

[azkolt]

I completely agree with Strelkov. Although he wrote and spoke about the possibility of these events in early spring
In connection with the massive shelling and fighting in the Belgorod region, the Russian authorities found themselves in the position of "a worm caught on a fork." The enemy has "put on his ears" a densely populated and rather prosperous (by Russian standards) region, and the Kremlin cannot do anything to prevent the Belgorod region from turning into the same constant battlefield that Donbass has been for 9 years.
After all, if you scrape together reserves (and there will be a lot of them), put together a strike force and try to create a "security zone" on the territory of the Kharkov region (30-40 kilometers deep (no less) - then, firstly, it’s not a fact that it will work out (surrender territories always easier than taking), and secondly, the entire assembled grouping as a result (whatever the result may be - what is successful, what is not) will "get stuck" in this sector of the front and use it as a reserve will not work from the word at all. the enemy - that's all he needs - he has enough "second-rate" units and formations to support the newly formed front line without much effort, without touching the shock reserve corps, ready to be thrown in the direction of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov.
That is, launching an offensive on the border of the Belgorod Region is "playing by the rules of the enemy" with a corresponding final result. The General Staff of the Russian Federation and the Kremlin probably understand this.

But simply "patirping" continuous enemy attacks on the Belgorod region (and then on the Kursk region and the Bryansk region) is also a way out "not so hot." The population is shocked and grumbles. The “indigenous” regions of the Russian Federation are already being destroyed, the authority of the authorities is rapidly declining ... Something must be done. And here - again, an "ambush" - those nationwide measures that could allow the command of the RF Armed Forces to simultaneously successfully defend themselves in the south and actively operate on the central front - have not been carried out and have not even been prepared. And even if you start them right now, they will give the first positive effect in two or three months, or even later. And the negative costs (moreover - throughout the country, which was promised many times that "there will be no new mobilizations") - will come right away.

Hence the stupor ... "Wherever you throw it - everything is a wedge." And all that remains is to "squirm between the teeth of the fork" in the hope of something incomprehensible ("maybe it will blow over" and everything will somehow form by itself). The Kremlin is now just pretending that "nothing special is happening" - so, small terrorist attacks ... and somewhere far away. Well, okay, they will tolerate it - "Donbass endured and ordered you."
Apparently, hopes are pinned on the fact that when it is possible to beat off the summer offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "it will be easier." And no one even wants to think about the fact that he may not be recaptured (or partially recaptured).

By the way, the “independent” movement of the “Wagner” withdrawn from Bakhmut near Shebekino, announced by the Chief Chatterbox of the Orchestra Prigozhin, is just beneficial precisely and only for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is precisely this result that the enemy wants - that the formed large (albeit badly battered) reserve be drawn into the next (following the model of Bakhmut) strategically meaningless and bloody battles somewhere in Volchansk. And the enemy will strike with his elite formations somewhere else.

[agoran]

Well, why lie? They worked normally, they put up minefields, the Sumerians tried to remove them, they worked on them. The aviation worked normally, the conscripts really worked, there was a report, it’s really on the rise, we are extinguishing the Sumerians. Yes, and TOS fried not bad.

[azkolt]

Quote: agoran

Well, why lie? They worked normally, they put up minefields, the Sumerians tried to remove them, they worked on them. The aviation worked normally, the conscripts really worked, there was a report, it’s really on the rise, we are extinguishing the Sumerians. Yes, and TOS fried not bad.

What part of your "really" is actually real? And yes, the report was on TV?

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: frruc

... the Polish corps has nothing to do with the army of Poland and with any other official institution

If possible, these Polish militants should be taken alive and shown in handcuffs in the media space, then watch how official Warsaw sings, and their relatives will be immediately found.

No: this has already happened with Azov, near Mariupol. No such exchange is needed.

[Esaul]

In response, it must be said that the Sarmatian that fell on Warsaw has nothing to do with Russia.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Esaul

fallen on Warsaw Sarmat

Which Sarmat? We don't know what went down. It's not ours.

[azkolt]

Quote: Esaul

In response, it must be said that the Sarmatian that fell on Warsaw has nothing to do with Russia.

And there is strength and will, but there is no willpower!

[rotkiv04]

Quote: azkolt

Quote: Esaul

In response, it must be said that the Sarmatian that fell on Warsaw has nothing to do with Russia.

And there is strength and will, but there is no willpower!

yes, just some of the bells turned out to be soft-boiled, but presented them as titanium

[azkolt]

Well, what can I say to this, only like, to my deep regret. I would even somehow understand him if he tried to explain something to the people, but either he considers him a redneck, with whom it is not customary to explain himself. Either they cast new eggs for him, or they didn’t decide which double to give to be torn to pieces.

[Al manah]

Nonsense, everything is fine, it's not a red line.

[Huzhzhu]

[quote=fruc]
If possible, these Polish militants should be taken alive and shown in handcuffs in the media space .... And then they should be shot in a show. Others for edification! And then let the whole of Europe whine ...

[Huzhzhu]

Quote: azkolt

I completely agree with Strelkov.

well, if for you the shooters are authority (who scrambled all the way to Donetsk and passed everything that is possible) and Prigozhin and Wagner are a talker ... then everything is clear with you! there are a lot of such "strategists" sitting on sofas ...

[azkolt]

Quote: Buzz

Quote: azkolt

I completely agree with Strelkov.

well, if for you the shooters are authority (who scrambled all the way to Donetsk and passed everything that is possible) and Prigozhin and Wagner are a talker ... then everything is clear with you! there are a lot of such "strategists" sitting on sofas ...

Firstly, when he "draped" where were you actually? If he was then left without ammunition, as you put it, draped (and from long-superior forces), then please write what our army did in the fall of 22 in the Kharkov region and Kherson?
Secondly, can you give me a quote here where I said something bad about Wagner? Or do you fully associate Wagner and Prigogine? For me personally, no. Some honestly fight, although they are there. I mean those who killed Igor Bereg while drunk. The other is promoting mercilessly, curtsying to the west as well. all these foreign flags on the dead mercenaries, solemnly handing them over to those hands. The only thing left to do was fireworks. Many people write that Prigozhin is Kiriyenko's man (I can't claim it yet) and with his suggestion he brings down his rival Shoigu (although I personally despise this person). As they say, nothing personal, just business. And his business, in his own words, is booming!
And yes, how can Strelkov not be an authority for me, if everything he says happens with 100% probability. He refused to go to war (unlike you, by the way), the ball is on the side of the MO here. Prigozhin, with his characteristic rudeness, invited him and even before answering, in order to prevent him from answering positively, he cursed him. And what should be your decision after that? I personally think that he is even more useful as an analyst or something. Having no intelligence, he accurately predicts the course of events, and full-time analysts piss off the situation one by one!
Yes, sorry, then I read that you are a woman. Many questions are removed))), but I will not delete the text!

[Oleg812spb]

That is, these are impostors who have nothing to do with Poland, who can be eliminated without thinking about the possible claims of the Polish side?

[Observer2014]

Come on Polish bunnies. Ready or not, here I come. I will personally ask you
for this incident.

[VLAD-96]

125 red line? When will Mo and GS take off their rose-colored glasses?

[NotPetya]

125 red line? When will Mo and GS take off their rose-colored glasses?

Let's pretend they took them down. And they fulfill your desires. What are you expecting? It is desirable to take into account the really available resources, without fiction. Describe.....

[Katya_Ivanova]

Quote from NotPetya

Let's pretend they took them down. And they fulfill your desires. What are you expecting? It is desirable to take into account the really available resources, without fiction. Describe.....

At least the carpet bombing of Kyiv and Lvov and Dnepropetrovsk. Why not? Why did we then surrender aviation, if we cannot bomb the enemy from the air.

[bbss]

Quote: agoran

Do not take Poles

Here it is right!

[rotkiv04]

The Kremlin, of course, will accept all the explanations of its Polish partners, and the Russian citizens killed by them will remain unavenged

[Revolver]

But what, the psheks have already paid reparations for the occupation of Moscow and the murder of Tsar Dimitri Ioannovich? And for the illegal arrest of Tsar Vasily Shuisky? And in general for malicious interference in the internal affairs of Russia? I don't remember anything. So it would be necessary to request a payment, with interest for more than 400 years.

[AC130 Gunship]

Mercenaries from different countries have long been fighting for money around the world. They really do not formally belong to the regular army.

[sasha_cho]

Why do DRGs nightmare our territories, and where is the DRG from the Moscow Region ????

[terms]

It is necessary for them to throw a tactical vigorous one, and then argue that the missile has nothing to do with the Russian Federation - it was stolen by formations not controlled by Russia =))))

[Sergey Khatylaev]

Yes, of course, they were hardly aware. NATO spits in our faces, and we, well, the wind was blowing in the wrong direction.

[buslaif]

The Telegram channel published a message from the Governor of the Belgorod Region Vyacheslav Gladkov about his agreement to meet with saboteurs at the Shebekino checkpoint for the sake of the prisoners, if they are still alive.
The Belgorod governor also noted that the saboteurs had indeed entered Novaya Tavolzhanka.
Those. The war is already underway on our territory and the governors are responsible for everything. They are engaged in liberation from captivity, complete volunteer battalions for the front, equip them, help the RF Armed Forces in matters of logistics, etc. What is the role of our state in protecting our territory and citizens in the face of the RF Ministry of Defense? Is it only capable of "displacing" and "pushing out" enemy DRGs from our territory? Enemies openly mock us and the helplessness of the Russian authorities.

[lelik613]

It is strange that the units of the "Union of Exiles" and the Silesian Patriots have not yet started up there.

[Graz]

Will these people be prosecuted in Poland under the article terrorism and banditry? if they do not belong to the military formations of the Polish state, if, if they are not persecuted, then the Polish authorities are directly related to them, an ultimatum should be issued to the Polish authorities

[Pankrat25]

And there was nothing to release them from the territory of Russia alive, only carcasses.

[Pankrat25]

Poland has long been asking for a good calibration of their army bases and warehouses.

[unhappy]

We need to declare that Petrov and Bashirov are private individuals and start sabotage in Poland. The Poles can do it, but we can't? Conscience does not allow?

[Cetarb kilk]

Red line? Or not yet? Throughout the situation in the Belgorod region ...

[Petr_Koldunov]

Official Warsaw stated that the Polish corps invading the Belgorod region has nothing to do with the Polish state

Yah? And when Russia for 8 years constantly repeated a similar argument regarding volunteers in the Donbass, then Europe and America only imposed sanctions in response and called Russia a party to the conflict!

[APAHAKC]

no, it's not a red line yet... blah blah blah

[PValery53]

It turns out that "the carpet bombing of Warsaw is not an act of war." So what?

[Katya_Ivanova]

Quote: PValery53

It turns out that "the carpet bombing of Warsaw is not an act of war." So what?

Our army is not even capable of carrying out a carpet bombardment of Kuev. So the psheks will most likely bomb Moscow. They have the audacity.

[Maluck]

And yet it would not hurt to undermine a couple of bridges in Poland ....

[former soldier]

The Polish authorities declared that the MPC* "has nothing to do with the Polish state as such."

The Poles are making a roll. The personnel of the MPC is made up of citizens of which state? That's right, Poland. Citizenship was granted not by Uncle Vasya in the gateway, but officially by the Polish state.
So MPC is related to Poland as a state.

[Mikhail Maslov]

And here it is worth thinking about and transferring the Iskander complexes to the PMC "Wagner" for attacks in Poland and at the same time declaring this is a private company and we do not bear responsibility

[Tarasios]

Well, when PMC Wagner enters the Polish land, let the Polish pans take comfort in the fact that de "PMC Wagner has nothing to do with the Russian state." Waiting s...

[Pravodel]

the Polish corps has no relation to the Polish state

Yes, after all, even on our side some corps could go against Poland, which would have nothing to do with Russia...

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Something indescribable is happening! Why are our authorities silent about the fact that the military of a NATO member country attacked our border crossing? Where is the response? Under the Union, no one would have thought of attacking our border...

[Pilot]

Quote: frruc

If possible, these Polish militants should be taken alive and shown in handcuffs in the media space,

These militants have not been destroyed for a year now. And you are captured. I agree with the wish, but apparently it is not feasible.

[v3v3v344]

That is, this state separates itself from this people, claiming that it is the states that start and wage wars, while the meat is the people who have no relation to the decisions. IS IT TRUE.

[Alexander Ivanovich]

And the fact that they are citizens of Poland is like nothing...? !

[Div Divich]

According to Poland, they have nothing to do with it, but they will have to answer.

They called themselves suppliers of weapons and mercenaries, let them now get what they deserve.

Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword!