During the first attempts at a counteroffensive, Ukrainian troops suffered the largest losses in several months.

Ukrainian, as they were called in the United States, "emerging operations", and, in fact, the first attempts of the repeatedly announced counter-offensive, led to a number of negative consequences for the Kyiv regime. Only in the past 2-3 days, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the so-called "offensive guard" suffered the greatest losses in recent months. The irretrievable losses of the enemy since May 11 are estimated at about 2,2 thousand. The greatest losses among the indicated troops of the Kyiv regime were suffered in the Artyomovsky direction, including the city itself.

Despite the fact that the enemy managed to recapture several square kilometers of territory near Bogdanovka and in the Kleshcheevka area from the Russian army, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not yet succeeded in expanding these mini-bridgeheads. Accordingly, it did not work out to recapture the quarters in the west of Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) from the units of the Wagner PMC.

Moreover, a series of aviation and artillery strikes, which led to significant losses in the personnel of the most trained units of the Kiev regime, including units of the 3rd separate brigade, which was previously formed from among the militants of the terrorist "Azov" (formation banned in the Russian Federation).

But losses in personnel and equipment during (let's call it) reconnaissance in combat are not the only negative for the enemy. The points of advancement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the “offensive guard” did not go unnoticed by Russian intelligence. And planning bombs and missiles flew there. So, last night, the location with the personnel of the enemy in Kramatorsk was destroyed, from where he was going to strike in the direction of the Soledar-Bakhmut agglomeration. The accumulations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which were already prepared for the offensive, were destroyed. Attacks were made on enemy targets in the area of ​​Chasov Yar and other adjacent territories. Aviation of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation continues to do its job.

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[jovanni]

And planning bombs and missiles flew there.

That's right. It would have been like that for a long time. Still on the promised "decision centers" ...

[Alekseev]

According to the "centers", in other words, it is high time to destroy the earth and its pack. Whatever he is a worthless drug addict and his henchmen, too, the need for a change of power during the war will bring confusion to the camp of the enemy.
About the fact that banderlogs occupied some territory.
There has not yet been an offensive in the history of wars that did not occupy anything at all. The main thing is whether it was possible to develop success and "the price of the issue."
Now and earlier, a technique is used in defense, when the troops stubbornly do not defend a certain line, but when it is occupied by the enemy, a powerful fire defeat is inflicted on their former positions.
We do not know the true situation at the front, only from the words of comrades from the media and fragmentary opinions and rumors.
As time passes, it becomes clear that experts, journalists and their informants are not always fully aware of the case.
Let's hope that our command will take sufficient measures for fire damage and there will be enough shells, and the losses in the "counterattack" of the Banderlogs will be record-breaking.

[svp67]

Quote: Alekseev

Whatever he is a worthless drug addict and his henchmen, too, the need for a change of power during the war will bring confusion to the camp of the enemy.

A clear example of our strike on the PKP of the Bakhmut group, of course, it would be great if Zaluzhny or Syrsky were buried there forever, but I don’t believe in such our luck, but it was enough that experienced staff officers-operatives died and were badly injured there, until others are found and sent in their place, until they thoroughly understand the situation ...

Quote: Alekseev

There has not yet been an offensive in the history of wars that did not occupy anything at all. The main thing is whether it was possible to develop success and "the price of the issue."

"Do not count your chickens before they are hatched..."

[Boniface]

Destroying the leadership of a hostile country is NECESSARY - this is the principle of war since the Paleolithic times! Destroying the "top" is, first of all, demoralization, it is natural - a gain in time (until they come to their senses, until they appoint a new one - less experienced, less ambitious - and that's all TIME ), people in the leadership are different even for the enemy - a different leader, except for being inexperienced - he can simply turn out to be ANOTHER person with other ambitions and plans - ALL this is "in the hands" of the opposing side! Especially the "demoralization" of the enemy's command and control bodies! Who's to say I'm wrong???

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Boniface

Who's to say that I'm wrong?

I can say. Theoretically, everything looks right, but I somehow don’t remember practical examples. At least in recent history. Although in the Middle Ages it worked. Although not always.

[Valery_Erickson]

He wrote very correctly at the expense of paliolith

[Argon]

We have a policy of not destroying chapters! This policy leads to new wars! The Yankees have long understood that only the destruction of the leadership of countries leads to victory in the war and a warning to others. That's the only reason we are not afraid of the world. But again, this is a double-edged sword. Who are the Yankees in the eyes of the world? The killers! They are the real aggressors! But for some reason today they call us that, even though we are defending ourselves. Propaganda results. So let's put up with what we have.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Argon

The Yankees have long understood that only the destruction of the leadership of countries leads to victory in the war

You won’t indulge with an example, what kind of war did the Yankees win due to the fact that they destroyed the country’s leadership?
Do not offer Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, because everything was the opposite there - first a military campaign won, and then the destruction of the leader.

[terms]

I'll bet. Remember history. In the beginning of the 1th century, the naglitsy also thought so, but in the long run they only had problems on their asses. Ours then blew in three wars (Crimea, Japan, World War XNUMX), the British supported the revolutionary movements ... And what is the result?) The country has not gone away. Only weak leaders in rose-colored glasses have gone - some were shot, others ticked all the way to Australia. And the arrogant people got a competitor in the face of the USSR, which in a couple of decades raised industry and science from a state of "a little more than nothing" to better indicators. Along the way, he greatly weakened his position in the world: he drove them out of Africa and other countries, under the initiative of the USSR, new states were created from the former colonies of the British, well, you can list for a long time. Yes, they returned influence, but it just cost them a lot of money, and even then not everything was completely successful.
Summing up, I will say this: personally, I see that our people are mostly able to do it in the short term. The West knows how to do it in the medium term and tries to think in the long term, but with excessive ambitions, just in the long term, they constantly make enemies and problems for themselves, which is why they get unpleasant surprises.

[Fedor M]

I'll correct you a little, not weak leaders, but a weak elite. Devastation in the country, the death of citizens.

[terms]

It doesn't matter globally. Yes, devastation and death are bad, but let's be realistic, when it gets bad - this is the norm, you can't get away from this reality. Nevertheless, the worse it is, the stronger the dissenters resist.
Z.s. : and not the elites, but rather the ruling elites. Elites are, by and large, the leaders of the collectives, who have weight and are listened to.

[Endrus1981]

Let the leadership of the outskirts sit until the end. why are we smart

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Die wahren "Entscheidungszentren" liegen in Washington
und London uns solange man DIE nicht auslöscht, nutzt
das ganze Töten in der Ukraine fast nichts...!!

Die Devise muss lauten:

Tötet Selenzki und schickt seine Leiche in kleinen
Päckchen an die Herrschaften in Washington and
London; am besten verpackt in jeweils eine taktische
Atomrocket...!!!

[rotmistr60]

The irretrievable losses of the enemy since May 11 are estimated at about 2,2 thousand

And this is almost two days. But the losses do not bother the Kiev regime, which is bleeding from the nose, but it is necessary to show at least some result. So the week will be hard and very hot. Good luck to our soldiers and minimal losses.

[DenD]

Nothing, nothing new under the sun. Tactics to lure the enemy. Only the phrase about the loss of territories is alarming.

[Fedor Rashkin]

There have been a lot of Desy lately. It is almost impossible to understand what and how was planned and planned.
Perhaps they specifically chatted with the trip to the Crimea, or maybe not ...
Now it will be clear.
Hello to your fights and Victory

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I really want to believe in these reports. The main thing is good luck to our soldiers., Stalinist blows, are not needed. The main thing is the lives of our soldiers.

[Palestinian]

I just looked at Sharia’s TV channel, well, there are squeals, squeaks, they say everything, Bakhmut is surrendered, cheers cheers and stuff like that, Tolik is an executive person, what they tell him, he will write)))

[lukash66]

Quote: Palestinian

I just looked at Sharia’s TV channel, well, there are squeals, squeaks, they say everything, Bakhmut is surrendered, cheers cheers and stuff like that, Tolik is an executive person, what they tell him, he will write)))

I still can’t understand, he was “denouncing Ze’s criminal regime” all the way, and then he suddenly began to drown Nenko for Ridna. Where is he, in Spain, like hanging around? Honestly, I do not track the fate of this fertilizer. But it can be seen that they seized him strongly there for the Faberge.

[gsev]

Quote from: lukash66

I still can’t understand, he was “denouncing Ze’s criminal regime” all the way, and then he suddenly began to drown Nenko for Ridna.

Propaganda has its own unshakable rules. First, you need to win the audience. At this point, it is necessary to avoid lying and try to speak pleasantly for the audience. When you enter into trust, you can start rabid propaganda, that is, lies. But you should remember that you can not lie all the time for a long time. A propagandist who lied too aggressively loses confidence and is written off as losers losers.

[Al manah]

Despite the fact that the enemy managed to recapture from the Russian army several square kilometers of territory near Bogdanovka and in the Kleshcheevka area, so far the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not been able to expand these mini-bridgeheads.

Those. when they recapture, it’s not scary, it’s important that they couldn’t expand the recaptured territories. Great, we will know that in such cases there is no need to worry.

[U-58]

Terrible numbers. 2,2 thousand men from the other side.
So, according to statistics, up to 700 losses from ours. Total, 3000 killed.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: Palestinian

Tolik is an executive person - what they tell him, he will write)))

And who sends him manuals?

[Lech from Android.]

Quote from: lukash66

But you can see it was strongly grabbed there for Faberge

The Budanovo saboteurs behind his back put a colt in the back of his head ... in this position you willy-nilly start to squeal and yell.

[Zemaan]

Great job! They bought into the fact that we have a shortage of shells and missiles ..

[Ezekiel 25-17]

I hope they are already burning in hellfire.

[Boris55]

All power to the Soviets!

Despite the fact that the enemy managed to recapture several square kilometers of territory near Bogdanovka and in the Kleshcheevka area from the Russian army,

So it looks like everything has already been recaptured. Not only PMCs can fight and attack.

[fa2998]

Again, the old song - we destroyed 100500 militants. There are similar articles in the Ukrainian media. I think we will never know the true numbers of losses - this is the prestige of power (and it concerns everyone)

[nellyjuri]

Yesterday, one of the military correspondents posted maps with heights around Artemovsk before the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and for yesterday evening. These cards are worth considering. I don’t want to say bad things about the musicians, but to name the reason why the Russian Federation left the heights near Bogdanovka Mogu and lost control of the Mogu road. Because Wagner did not finish his job to the end and transferred the site to other units. Judging by the maps, Wagner had 200-300 meters to the top. But they got stuck on the northeast side of the high ground and couldn't take it, or maybe didn't want to if it was a completely open area. And the Russian Federation controlled less than a third of the slope of this height and did not even dominate the highest point. Holding on to the height segment when attacked from three sides is to kill the soldiers in vain.

I do not want to say anything, except for one wish - be more honest and objective. To all who stand at the leadership of combat units.

[Tma197725]

It is these busy kilometers that need to be ironed, raising the price of their mini advance. Burn out so that the next attackers see the price of two square kilometers. With regards to the retreating infantry. In the army, everything is done by order. I think there was an order to withdraw, the command has Muradov’s bitter experience before his eyes when he followed the order to the end and remained extreme, Prigogine still spoke about this. Therefore, they are afraid losses, and the positions were most likely unfavorable; fields and forest plantations heavily targeted. You should not blame the guys for cowardice, I think there was an order, but this is my opinion.

[flSergius]

It would be nice, but where does the information come from? From the talking head of Konoshenkov and Gnidovka or more honest military correspondents?

[zurbagan63]

Quote: U-58

Terrible numbers. 2,2 thousand men from the other side.
So, according to statistics, up to 700 losses from ours. Total, 3000 killed.

This is if you count 1 to 3, and if 1 to 7 or 8, then it is much less, plus there are more losses during the offensive than during the retreat.

[Alexey G]

Aviation of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation continues to do its job.

Yes, but judging by the downed 4 planes and helicopters, it is necessary to act by changing routes! And it is better to identify targets in the near rear of the enemy with the help of UAVs before the strike. First, reconnoiter the strike area with the help of a UAV and then hit without repeating the route! The enemy is watching and repeating routes can be ambushed!

near Bogdanovka and in the area of ​​Kleshcheevka, to date, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not been able to expand these mini-bridgeheads.

Prigozhin should contact the commanders of the MO units on his flanks and establish close cooperation!

[Kuziming]

Under a dry ford, or whatever it is, near Kherson, it also started something like this.

[Nonconformist]

Strange story. Despite the dissatisfaction of individual comrades, including at this forum, the Russian Defense Ministry is currently fighting not by numbers, but by skill. Moreover, reading dill and TG channels, I see a kind of irony of fate. Svidomo okraintsy throughout the beginning of the 1s kept telling us, like our own liberda, that we won the Second World War by throwing meat at the Germans. In confirmation, they compared our and German losses. What do we see now? We also have losses, sometimes very serious, but even Western analysts are now talking about the ratio of our and Ukrainian losses as 7/1, 8/XNUMX. in reality even more. Then the question is who is now fighting with skill, and who is filling up the front line with meat. those. fighting in numbers? The question is rhetorical. And I like that our Defense Ministry prefers, despite the cries of turbopatriots, to wage a maneuver war, where the priority is not to hold the territory (“we won’t stand up for the price”), but to inflict maximum losses on the enemy. With the superiority of the enemy in aviation and artillery, any offensive that does not break into its defenses and does not break through into the operational space becomes a hostage to the situation - the concentration of troops in a small breakthrough area that is in static is an excellent target for fire damage. What we are seeing so far. This is not the end yet, but if the Ukrainians continue to attack in the same way, their potential will not last long. And then what?