There were reports of the resignation of the commander of the Pacific Fleet

Against the backdrop of large-scale exercises that took place in the Pacific navy, there were reports of the resignation of the commander of the Pacific Fleet, Admiral Sergei Avakyants. The information appeared online after a meeting on regional economic development. It was voiced by the Permanent Representative of the President of Russia in the Far Eastern Federal District, Yuri Trutnev. Moreover, Trutnev, without speaking directly about the resignation of Avakyants, spoke as follows:

The preparatory period is coming to an end, during which we have created a centralized structure that will provide methodological support for the activities of regional centers and coordinate their work. This central structure, in fact, the headquarters for the implementation of the task set by the president, will be headed by Admiral Avakyants, who until recently commanded the Pacific Fleet.

Sergei Avakyants served as Commander of the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Navy for more than 10 years. He has numerous awards, including the Order of Merit for the Fatherland and the Order of Alexander Nevsky.

On April 6, 2023 Sergey Avakyants turned 65 years old. It can be assumed that the resignation from the post of commander of the Pacific Fleet is related to age. However, there are no official clarifications on this issue at the moment.

On the eve aviation The Pacific Fleet completed large-scale fleet exercises. Together with a group of submarines, a combat training operation was carried out to destroy a mock enemy aircraft carrier strike group.

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[Vsevolod Primorsky]

Well, finally, he sat out in this position, oh, he sat out. Whatever one may say, this far from had the best effect on the state of affairs of the Pacific Fleet. Let's see how the new commander does.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Vsevolod Primorsky

Well, finally, he sat out in this position, oh, he sat out.

And Sergei Kozhugedovich did not sit out?

[Got it]

So you can agree to such sittings ...

[Alexey Sommer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWuW4VqEflY

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

And Sergei Kozhugedovich did not sit out?

Duc, they are preparing a "sofa" for him ... he will also lie down!

[notingem]

Sergey Kozhugedovich is only in the know

[Monster_Fat]

Oh, and why did such an extraordinary thing happen that at one end, where there are "reverse offensives" and "regroupings", and everything is in their own affairs, and at the other, hell knows where .... it is not clear what happened and immediately "resignations "? I remember the saying: "Beat your own so that strangers are afraid" .... This is just a saying, do not attach it to the article ...

[azkolt]

Khuzhenetovich, it seems that this patronymic is now pronounced by some

[azkolt]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Quote: Vsevolod Primorsky

Well, finally, he sat out in this position, oh, he sat out.

And Sergei Kozhugedovich did not sit out?

Khuzhenetovich sat out without even sitting down.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

And who knows at least a couple of fleet commanders who left the position when they were younger? Unless, of course, he died a natural death, died in a car accident or was removed for gross violations. About the "work of the brain" after 60, live and feel for yourself. I only realized after 60 how stupid I was before. After another 10 years, he became only more cautious in evaluating himself and others. I see how different everyone is, and even in terms of physical indicators, where I can give odds to bags 20 years younger. So why so much anger towards the respected admiral? Or does someone judge by themselves, realizing their mental wretchedness after 60?

[dmi.pris1]

Dear members of the forum. Yes, it's not about age or personality. But in the System. Which can provide, or vice versa, destroy the country's defense capability. It's not about the admiral ... Of course, it suspiciously coincided with the combat readiness proaer

[Saburov_Alexander53]

And I like some American admirals. For example Kirby or Rachel Levin Suggest to take as an example?

[Got it]

More of these admirals! Freedom for everything!

[notingem]

And why did they appoint an old woman? Did the blacks end in America? mess

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

I only realized after 60 how stupid I was before. After another 10 years, he became only more cautious in evaluating himself and others. I see how different everyone is, and even in terms of physical indicators, where I can give odds to bags 20 years younger. So why so much anger towards the respected admiral? Or does someone judge by themselves, realizing their mental wretchedness after 60?

Do you dispute the presence of aging processes in the body, which entails a decrease in mental and physical activity? I think it’s unlikely .. or do you think that the retirement age can be raised - a person at 65 is still full of strength - are you an example of this? or wanted to say that it was you - still hoo after 60 - that is worthy of respect, no doubt ..
but the people in the bulk, say that it would be nice to introduce annual tests for the "level of mind" if in power after 65 and I don’t see anything terrible in this, on the contrary, showing a level of 70-75 - above 40 years old - this can be you need to be proud and "poke in the face" of those who will hint about age .. and if everything is not very good, it's time to rest .. this society is protected from the risk of gerontocracy, which occurs from time to time in our country and serves as the justification for - "I still a lot at 70,80 ".. as they say, do whatever you want, but if thousands and millions do not depend on you ..

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Nikolai, do you have a medical record of this admiral with a diagnosis of mental retardation and inability to lead the fleet after 60 years? And speaking of medicine, remember how many outstanding surgeons continued to perform unique operations at a much older age and continue to run clinics. I’m talking about the same thing, you shouldn’t immediately pounce on 60-year-olds, in our time this is not at all a critical age for just such an activity. He does not row the galleys with oars. And the age was raised to 65 years in our country and no one burned down Moscow, as they burn down Paris in 64 years. You are right that sometimes at the age of 40 you are sick and incapable. And if "tomorrow" information appears that Avakyants failed and was removed, then we'll talk about why. But here, as if a pack was lowered on him and they are ready to trample into the mud only for his age. Some savages... come to your senses!

[Monster_Fat]

It's cool, the aging of the body turns out to concern only the "plebs", well, they are such primitive organisms, but the Leader! - this is another matter, he is a higher being, he is subject to ancient magic, he does not age, he is in his mind up to 100-200 years. The leader is...

[sgrabik]

Here, apparently, we are talking about Bidon, is he also going for a second term ???

[Ulysses]

The dismantling of the USSR at the top began with the arrival of a young but semi-literate agronomist from Stavropol ..

[Losyara]

Read for the age of generals, sensible generals, the Great Patriotic War. Vatutin was 42, Chernyakhovsky was younger in total. And they really commanded and very talented

[Alexey Alekseev_5]

65 is not age. and dumb...

[UAZ 452]

Here it is not necessary about 80-year-old operating surgeons. Believe me, as a person who has been working in this field all his professional life, if you knew the real picture, and not beautiful reports and reports, then the first one demanded that, after 65 years, surgeons not be allowed into the operating room, and medical leaders operating " for the soul" at best once a week - they were not allowed at any age. If you are not aware, Academician Korolev was operated on by the then Minister of Health of the USSR, and the academician was basically lost out of the blue.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

I don’t know the reasons for the resignation, therefore I’m not ready to judge ... But, something in our country has completely broken down if we are wearing helmets from the 60s to the front and removing leaders ...

[Leader_Barmaleev]

Well, finally, he sat out in this position, oh, he sat out. Whatever one may say, this far from had the best effect on the state of affairs of the Pacific Fleet.

Are you apparently one of those good Samaritans who experience stormy joy if a neighbor has a misfortune? Sergei Iosifovich is being transferred to the Main Headquarters of the Russian Navy, so relax - under him, the Pacific Fleet developed and functioned more than normally.

[El Barto]

No one detracts from his merit. But he is really old for this position.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

But he is really old for this position.
We remember how the really decrepit and sick leaders were replaced by a young and healthy Gorbachev. Wow, how it immediately got prettier in the country and smelled of fresh wind ... How did he end up remembering well? And then, at the age of 70, Primakov pulled the country out of the abyss.

[sgrabik]

And Baidon is not old, but he also has a "nuclear button".

[Woroshilow]

All the same, the main problem of the Pacific Fleet is chronic underfunding, and not Admiral Avakyants. If there are no new ships and money for the fleet, even if you are a brilliant naval commander at least three times, this will not help.

[UAZ 452]

As the history of the country of the last couple of decades has shown, any money can be flushed down the toilet if the heads of the leadership are sharpened exclusively for PR campaigns in the form of olympiads, parades and other biathlons.

[Ross xnumx]

There were reports of the resignation of the commander of the Pacific Fleet

Yes, he had to grow tomatoes in the country for at least five years. What kind of service at 65, when the brain does not work.
Excuse me, but after 60 there is nothing to do in the army ... And quick wit tests for those "without whom the earth will stop" after 60 should be carried out in the most thorough way ...

[UAZ 452]

After 60, you can’t command the fleet, you can only lead the Ministry of Defense, and, well, the General Staff. Well, you can govern the state even after 70.

[Doccor18]

Quote: UAZ 452

Well, you can govern the state even after 70.

And even after 80, Biden will not let you lie ..

[Egoza]

Quote: ROSS 42

What kind of service at 65, when the brain does not work.
Sorry, but after 60 there is nothing to do in the army ..

You tell that to those who promoted pension reform. Tereshkova, for example! (((

[Galleon]

Valentina Vladimirovna has been in the Supreme Council since 1966. She is 86! I don't even know what else to add...

[UAZ 452]

Well, what an experience of legislative activity!

[VladMirU]

:-))))) The speech is short, I know without admins.

[aleks700]

I will add. I propose to notice her as my dad. He is only 90 and has a better mind than an astronaut.

[Poplar]

There is nothing to add here. This is just a clear confirmation that there are problems with brains after 60, and after 80, rarely anyone can boast of a sober mind and a solid memory.

[UAZ 452]

Those who promoted are ready to serve the Motherland at their work, even to the grave. And with great pleasure. To put it mildly, they are not very eager to retire from such positions.

[Zoldat_A]

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Quote: Galleon

Valentina Vladimirovna has been in the Supreme Council since 1966. She is 86! I don't even know what else to add...

Quote: UAZ 452

To put it mildly, they are not very eager to retire from such positions.

Perhaps they feel a calling.
We have a janitor, for example - also 40 years "in the profession", from the age of fifteen with a broom. Labor dynasty - dad and mom were also janitors. I spoke myself.

[AUL]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: ROSS 42

What kind of service at 65, when the brain does not work.
Sorry, but after 60 there is nothing to do in the army ..

You tell that to those who promoted pension reform. Tereshkova, for example! (((

True, she tried more about zeroing ...

[Li17]

Quote: ROSS 42

What kind of service at 65, when the brain does not work.
Excuse me, but after 60 there is nothing to do in the army ... And quick wit tests for those "without whom the earth will stop" after 60 should be carried out in the most thorough way ...

That's for sure. But who will conduct these tests? I present the consequences for the inspectors. The example of Biden in this light is very revealing! And the young drug addict Zelensky is also talking about something. So we’re getting stupid from a young age, in my city they still can’t have normal and literate people in the local government ..., too, only bazaar media workers, vidosiki rivet each other!

[Turtle]

Quote: ROSS 42

What kind of service at 65, when the brain does not work.

I am a civilian, and discussing the resignation itself, or guessing about its reasons, is stupid on my part. IMHO, it's not about age: for some nuclear physicists, even at the age of 80, the brains work young for envy. And a high army rank has a big responsibility, and daily worries are too monotonous - in itself, this does not harm the brain (the army does not make it stupid and cannot be compared with dangerous production), but it certainly does not contribute to the preservation of intelligence at a serious age.
So, during the breaks between tomatoes in the country, the admiral will benefit from crosswords, sudoku, puzzles from the geometry puzzle.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: ROSS 42

quick wit tests for those “without whom the earth stops”, after 60 to be carried out in the most thorough way ...

Alexander Suvorov served in the army until the age of 69, maybe you will order him to do a quick wit test ... or the incomparable Kutuzov ... who also served at a respectable age ... this old man bent Napoleon himself ... who was younger than him for decades.
So it's not about age, but about the bone of thinking ... young Gorbachev managed to destroy a powerful state ...
God forbid from such stupid playfulness of youth.

[El Barto]

And at an age, too - the commander of a strategic formation, especially in a complex direction, must be vigorous and aggressive. And with age, these qualities usually disappear, and Suvorov is rather an exception here.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: ROSS 42

What kind of service at 65, when the brain does not work.

Sergei Kozhugedovich is 67 and nothing.

[ugos]

That's exactly what nothing .... good ...

[Shkodnik65]

About the fact that after 65 years the brain does not work. There was a director at our plant - Budnikov Stanislav Stefanovich. So this "grandfather" in his 80s, being the director of the enterprise, not a designer, personally developed new types of electrical units. You go into his office - his desk is LOWERED with drawings. Yes, what was he developing. It turned out that our product did not work during installation. Didn't work properly. It was in the Far East. They sent a team of specialists - to no avail. Whatever they did, it doesn’t work, and that’s it, even change it. So Stanislav Stefanovich, on the phone (!) Directed the actions of the finalizers and LAUNCHED the unit! On the phone, Carl! At 82! Not designers and not production workers. Lightest head. Unfortunately, the covid did its job, the person died. So, I don't think it's a matter of age. And what is the age for a man - 65 years. He does not go on the attack, he is the brain, the organizer. And there are young people at the age of 30, stupid as felt boots. So age is not the reason.

[Alexey Sommer]

What's the reason?
What do you think? There are versions?

[Amateur]

If this is not a fake, then the resignation of the commander after the exercises means one thing: the exercises failed.
Or vice versa, is the person going to be promoted?

[lwxx]

Quote: Amateur

.. exercises failed.
Or vice versa, is the person going to be promoted?

Avakyants will become the head of the headquarters that oversees the centers for military sports training and patriotic education. Well, if you look after DOSAAF, this is an increase .... True, it would not be bad for Trutnev to increase it like that.

[Li17]

Quote: lwxx

Quote: Amateur

.. exercises failed.
Or vice versa, is the person going to be promoted?

Avakyants will become the head of the headquarters that oversees the centers for military sports training and patriotic education. Well, if you look after DOSAAF, this is an increase .... True, it would not be bad for Trutnev to increase it like that.

The fact that the exercises did not objectively set out is clear, there are problems with the personnel, conscripts in kindergarten, counters, it is clear who is coming, a lot of forces have been transferred to the NWO zone and the delights of reforms! I remember how the commander of the North Caucasian Military District, General Troshev, was removed ... well, so that his curator would not be offended by the Cossacks! As a rule, such people are quietly "promoted" so as not to have problems with the analysis in the future, everyone knows perfectly well what kind of Chubaisyatina was going on!

[UAZ 452]

Under the Union, a party apparatchik who failed at the level of the first secretary of the regional committee was sent as an ambassador to some Guatemala. This increase seems to be from the same opera.

[hellcos]

If I'm not mistaken, there was an unscheduled inspection of the Pacific Fleet the other day. Rather, it is not connected with the teachings, but with it. With all kinds of biathlons and other parades, we have no problems in order to fire someone after them

[Aviator_]

Or vice versa, is the person going to be promoted?

In the USSR there was such a "Group of General Inspectors of the Ministry of Defense" for the aged generals. Here it seems to be similar.

[Prokop_Pork]

They talked about his conflict with the command of the NWO, in connection with the incompetent use of the marines of the TF, and heavy losses.

[UAZ 452]

So he could have asked for a CBO himself to demonstrate how to use them "darno". We never lack critics from the outside.

[UAZ 452]

I don’t quite understand the minusers: that is, everyone agrees that the admiral, the commander of the fleet, who is dissatisfied with the way his subordinates are used, can afford the role of an outside critic, and is this normal? Well... everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I will never agree with this point of view.

[igorbrsv]

One thing is confusing. What is connected with the beginning of the exercises

[Pankrat25]

And I think that the exercises did not go as smoothly as they say in the news.

[vladcub]

"It didn't go so smoothly." There have always been, are, and always will be flaws. Another thing is how serious

[UAZ 452]

From the lengthy description of the admiral's future job responsibilities, it is clear that this is a typical sinecure, created simply so that a respected naval commander can receive an increase in his pension.
Interesting: what did the sudden check of the combat readiness of the Pacific Fleet show? Fleet not found? After a successful check (as they say in official sources), they usually do not announce the transfer of commanders to "another managerial job" after a few days.

[vladcub]

"after a successful check" as history shows: 100% success cannot be, there ALWAYS were, are and will be some shortcomings.
Another thing is how significant

[Kuziming]

Methodological support and coordination, this is exactly what we need now.
You can also plan webinars, online consultations, and thematic conferences. Also develop new requirements and draw up a plan for a phased transition to new standards.
And to transfer effective managers who have successfully proved themselves in reforming education and medicine to solve these problems.

[Uncle lee]

Quote from Kuziming

Also develop new requirements

You forgot about digitalization and the transfer of time from police to police ...

[Mordvin 3]

It can be assumed that the resignation from the post of commander of the Pacific Fleet is related to age.

Yeah. And Shoigu will be older. They don't send him into retirement.

[Oleg133]

Good admiral generals are not scattered due to age.

[Graz]

It looks like something is wrong with the teachings. Pacific Fleet, it can be seen at the top there were high hopes. but it didn't work out

[Doctor]

It looks like something is wrong with the teachings. Pacific Fleet, it can be seen at the top there were high hopes. but it didn't work out

Especially when you consider that these exercises are a response to the joint exercises of the United States and Japan.
In the Sea of ​​Japan on April 11, their AUG, led by the Lincoln, suddenly showed up.

[Al manah]

we have created a centralized structure that will provide methodological support for the activities of regional centers

The bureaucracy is getting smaller, even though the structures are growing? This is such a gift to the admiral - a personal structure so that it would not be boring in retirement. Well, now the economic development in the region will take off by leaps and bounds if the whole structure is engaged in methodological support under the leadership of a retired admiral. At least write what kind of structure. Although, perhaps, this is a state secret if it is headed by such a well-deserved uncle.

[aleks700]

Judging by the new position, he should go to court.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Quote from Kuziming

Also develop new requirements

You forgot about digitalization and the transfer of time from police to police ...

My head is spinning from new trends ... Wasserman recently made an attempt to get into the stockings and under the pillows of citizens ... it’s very harmful for them to keep their savings without state supervision ... life is becoming more and more wonderful and wonderful ... old men from the State Duma gush with ideas Mom, don't worry... that's where they need to screw the tap.

[Million]

Probably because of corruption. If an Armenian is appointed to a high position, then soon Armenians will lead everything around.

[Graz]

and here is the version of the admiral's departure from the post of commander of the Pacific Fleet. is it connected with the write-off of TARK Peter the Great

[Boniface]

Great officer!
I served with him in 43 DRC SF, I know him personally!

[vladcub]

Boniface, if he is an excellent officer, why are they transferring him? Ali do we have an overabundance of excellent officers?

[Prokop_Pork]

Have you heard of negative selection? - The basis of the vertical of power.

[vladcub]

Literally the other day in the "Reporter" I said that according to the results of the check, there would be rearrangements, but so "loud" and immediately. Unexpectedly, probably, there is such a "swamp" that it cannot be tolerated

[Cronus]

Well, at this age, you don’t want recklessness, innovations and movements.
Therefore, the fleet, as it was 10 years ago, remains unchanged, while other countries are progressing.

[VladimirNET]

People, no need to "guess" about the reasons,
because they are listed here:
https://consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_18260/c779997121ba7c2fac1410486eaf14e8d4d6d87a/

[Seal]

Quote: Aviator_

aging generals.

For marshalling. The generals did not shine to get there.

[nepunamemuk]

3. With servicemen who have reached the age limit for military service, a new contract for military service may be concluded in the manner determined by the Regulation on the procedure for military service:

having the military rank of Marshal of the Russian Federation, General of the Army, Admiral of the Fleet - for a period established by the decision of the President of the Russian Federation;

having the military rank of colonel-general, admiral - until they reach the age of 70 years;

it's too early for his retirement

[BorzRio]

All these retired commanders of the Soviet era should have left a long time ago, giving way to young, strong, smart people. They are both physically and morally obsolete. They are not for modern wars and large-scale operations. They have grandchildren and a dacha in the first place. They need to explain for a long time what drones, electronic warfare, secure Internet and closed online communication from a platoon and a boat are. They have show in the first place. But you try to move them from the heated sweet spot. They are firmly planted there. Russia urgently needs to update the command staff. Those who understand everything about modern and future warfare. Those who can think a few steps ahead and think through all the possible consequences of actions, prepare backup plans. It's time for the elders to leave.

[Nitten]

The experience of the NWO on the part of Saloreia shows that youth and enthusiasm are stronger than experienced and knowledgeable impotents.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

Quote: Doccor18

And even after 80, Biden will not let you lie ..

Don't touch grandpa! He is our...

[tolancop]

I fully admit that the exercises of the Pacific Fleet and the resignation of its commander are interconnected. But no negativity.
The results of the exercises are a summing up of the work of the commander and an assessment of the state of the Pacific Fleet (I will not undertake to judge how objective it is). Incl. the new commander will have fewer reasons to blame his predecessor. Like an audit in a warehouse during a change of boss. The commission looked, counted and "Take the head of the case in such and such a state .."

[biznaw]

Looking at the expression on the face of the admiral in the photograph, for some reason he is not surprised by his resignation. The photo shows a typical face of a petty tyrant in uniform.