The Battle of Pavia on tapestries by Bernard van Orley

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The Battle of Pavia on tapestries by Bernard van Orley
A room with tapestries depicting scenes from the Battle of Pavia. National Museum of Capodimonte, Naples, Italy


“Damn it, Captain! Not every fight can be won.
The great Pompey lost the battle of Pharsalus,
and King Francis the First, who I heard
also cost something - the battle of Pavia.

A. Dumas "Three Musketeers"

History in artifacts. We have already referred here more than once to embroideries and tapestries, which are of interest from the point of view of the study of history. According to the time scale, we went “from the bottom up”, that is, starting with the “Bayesian embroidery”, but later a lot of embroidered images were made, sometimes with photographic accuracy conveying the realities of their era.



These include seven tapestries woven in Brussels in 1528-1531, based on sketches by Bernard van Orley. Their value, in addition to beauty, lies in the fact that they illustrate for us in detail the scenes of the battle of Pavia. And this battle was very important in all respects, since it took place at the turn of the epochs. In it, the traditional cavalry of the gendarmes collided with armed firearms. weapons infantry and suffered a crushing defeat from it.

Naturally, today we cannot travel back to the beginning of the XNUMXth century and see how it happened with our own eyes. But we can try to imagine it by looking at the beautiful tapestries of Bernard van Orley.


Tapestry 1. It shows the attack of the French gendarmes led by King Francis I. In the distance, against the background of the forest, German arquebusiers are visible, preparing to open fire on the French cavalry. The equipment of the gendarmes attracts attention. They wear full knightly armor with characteristic cloth skirts instead of legguards. On the tapestry, armor on many horses is missing. One horse has a breastplate and saffron, the other has a saffron and collar, but such details as caps and flanshards are missing. By the way, since they are all with swords in their hands, this means that they have already lost their spears in the previous battle.

So, the battle of Pavia, which happened on the morning of February 24, 1525, became the main and decisive battle of the Italian War of 1521-1526. between the French kingdom and the multinational empire of Charles V, who, as Holy Roman Emperor, was at the same time king of Spain, "both Indies", and also ruled the Netherlands and, in addition, the Two Sicilies.

The French army was under the command of the King of France, Francis I, who in October 1524 laid siege to the city of Pavia, which was part of the Duchy of Milan as part of the Holy Roman Empire, having 26 soldiers in his army, among whom were many mercenaries. French proper 200 infantry and 6 foreign mercenaries: 000 Swiss, 17 Germans and 000 Italians ("Black Stripes"). The striking force of the French army was a plate cavalry of 8 gendarmes and 000 spearmen.

Charles V intended to lift the siege from the city, and sent an army of 22 soldiers to Pavia. Moreover, in the city itself there was an imperial garrison of 300 Germans and 5 Spaniards. The imperial forces were commanded by the Fleming Charles de Lannoy, imperial lieutenant and viceroy of Naples, and the French renegade defector, Captain General Charles III, Duke of Bourbon. Under their command were 000 German landsknechts, 1 Spanish and 000 Italian soldiers, commanded by the Italian condottiere, the Marquis of Pescara, along with the German commander Georg Frundsberg. The Spanish captain Antonio de Leyva commanded the garrison of the besieged Pavia. The imperial cavalry numbered 12 knights and 000 lancers.

The battle took place in the Visconti Park in Mirabello di Pavia, right next to the city walls. King Francis I, having shown considerable courage, and in the best traditions of the medieval war, personally led his gendarmes against Lannoy, but the German and Spanish spearmen and arquebusiers managed to repel it, after which Spanish and German infantrymen fell upon them from all sides, who began to exterminate the mounted gendarmes with fire from arquebus and muskets.

The remnants of the French forces, including the Swiss mercenaries and the "Black Bands", made a courageous attempt to protect the king, but were eventually surrounded by enemy spearmen and also defeated. In addition, the garrison of Pavia made a sally. And it turned out that in the course of a four-hour battle, the French army was defeated in parts. Many noble nobles of France were killed, and Francis I himself, narrowly escaping death, was captured.


Tapestry 2. On the left, the Spanish arquebusiers, led by the Marquis di Pescara, attack the French gendarmes. Clouds of smoke from arquebus shots are clearly visible. On the right, the landsknechts of Georg von Frundsberg capture the French battery

Captured by Charles V, Francis I had to sign the Treaty of Madrid in 1526, renouncing his claims in exchange for the desired freedom.

The beginning of this whole dramatic story was laid first of all by Francis I himself, who in mid-October 1524 crossed the Alps and moved to Milan, with an army of more than 40 people. The troops of Bourbon and Pescara, numerically inferior to him, could not offer serious resistance and began to withdraw. The French army advanced in several columns at once, preventing the imperials from holding back their advance, but it also failed to call them to battle.

Francis entered Milan, appointed him governor of Louis II de la Tremoulle, but further, although he was advised to continue the pursuit of Lannoy, laid siege to the city of Pavia, where there was an imperial garrison of about 9 people, consisting of mercenaries who had to be paid by melting church silver . On November 000, Francis, having broken through the gaps in the walls of the city by this time, decided to storm the city, but his troops were driven back with heavy losses. Then the French decided to starve his defenders to death.


Tapestry 3. On the left, King Francis I is shown being dragged from his horse. Whether this was actually the case, or whether he fell from his horse and was captured by the already lying one, is unknown. But the artist saw it that way. On the right, a German landsknecht has captured an important trophy - a horse, and explains to another landsknecht that now, they say, this horse is mine!

In general, things at the front of the French king seemed to be going well. So, he managed to sign a secret agreement with Pope Clement VII that he would not help Charles, and Francis would help him conquer Naples, where he had to send part of his soldiers. Lannoy's attempt to intercept them failed, and moreover, in the battle with the royal troops, he suffered heavy losses.

On the side of the French, the “Black Gangs” of Giovanni Medici, Italian mercenaries who switched to the French service, acted very effectively. However, the number of French troops at Pavia was reduced by the departure of almost 5 Swiss mercenaries, who were ordered to return to Switzerland to protect their own borders. Then already in January 000, Georg Frundsberg brought Lannoy 1525 fresh German landsknechts, and with these forces they resumed their attacks on the French.


Tapestry 4. On the left, the landsknechts of Georg von Frundsberg are fighting with the landsknechts of King Francis I. In the distance, one of the landsknechts jumps over the stream, leaning on his pike, like a scout. Interestingly, there are quite a few women in this picture, and one of them is on horseback and in a side saddle. Who are they? Canteens or regimental whores? It is impossible to say, but they are dressed, especially the "lady in red", not poorly. But boxes and chests bound with metal strips clearly replace suitcases. The civilians are seen fleeing towards the river

Already on February 2, Lannoy was only a few miles from Pavia, so that Francis had to act on two fronts: against the defenders of the city and the approaching imperial army. However, it seemed to the imperials that the forces of the French were much superior to them, so that although they intended to give them battle, they did not particularly count on victory.

Moreover, on the evening of February 23, they set fire to their tents in order to make the French believe that they had begun to withdraw from the city. In fact, in the early morning they made several breaches (they did not use gunpowder, but worked as a trench tool!) In the walls surrounding the huge Mirabello Park, where the French troops were stationed, and under the cover of twilight and fog they began to enter it - first arquebusiers, and after them light cavalry and artillery. The target of the attack was the castle of Mirabello, where, as the Spaniards believed, the headquarters of the French army was located.


Tapestry 5. On the right, French gendarmes trying to attack the imperial landsknechts with two-handed swords and pikes in their hands, who penetrate Mirabello Park through breaches in the wall. Surprisingly, together with them we see a priest with a shaved tonsure and even a mule, on which a monkey rides on a chain!

Noticing the movement of the Imperials, French troops came out to meet them. By 7 o'clock in the morning, a large-scale infantry battle was unfolding in the park with the participation of landsknechts of Georg Frundsberg, Spanish arquebusiers, French spearmen and landsknecht defectors from the "Black Squad" under the command of Francois from Lorraine, who fought on the side of the French. Numerous French artillery also opened fire, causing serious damage to the imperial infantry.


Tapestry 6. The French army flees from the battlefield, and landsknechts destroy the floating bridge with their halberds ...

Interestingly, the French did not realize for some time the true extent of the imperial attack; however, by about 7:20 a.m., masses of imperial cavalry were seen advancing behind the infantry from a battery of French artillery. Artillery fire was opened on the enemy, which began to inflict losses on him, but the appearance of the enemy cavalry alerted Francis, who decided to attack it with all the forces of the French gendarmes.

Initially, his attack was successful, and by 7:40 a.m. Lannoy's imperial horsemen were dispersed. However, the rapid advance of Francis not only weakened the fire of the French artillery, but also tore off his gendarmes from the mass of French infantry under the command of Richard de la Pole and the "Black Squad" of renegade landsknechts.

The Marquis of Pescara, who remained in command of the Spanish troops after Lannoy left the battlefield along with the retreating cavalry, quickly formed his men at the edge of the forest and immediately sent messengers to other commanders asking for help. And just at this time, the landsknechts of Frundsberg managed to defeat the Swiss infantry opposing him, which led the French infantry into such confusion that they began to leave the battlefield.


Tapestry 7. Sally of the garrison of Pavia. The French crawl out of their fortifications and try to swim across the river to escape. Both the attire and the weapons of the Landsknechts are depicted very accurately - their halberds and Kalzbager swords.

Already at 8 o'clock in the morning the French cavalry was surrounded by a mass of imperial pikemen and arquebusiers. With no room to maneuver due to the fact that there was a forest nearby, the French gendarmes became easy prey for the shooters.

Meanwhile, in a fierce battle between the imperial landsknechts and the Black Detachment, the latter was surrounded by Frundsberg spearmen and completely destroyed. The French king was fighting with his gendarmes when Cesare Hercolani, an Italian condottiere, killed his horse under him and, surrounded by Spanish arquebusiers and German landsknechts, he was captured and led out of the battlefield.


And now consider some fragments of the tapestry when enlarged. On it, as it turned out, there are a lot of accurately executed images of specific participants in the battle. This is Charles de Lannoy - the commander of the imperial troops

At the same time, the landsknechts of Antonio de Leyva made a sortie from the city and defeated 3 Swiss who occupied the siege trenches. The remnants of the Swiss tried to escape across the bridge over the river, but after it was destroyed, they had to swim for their lives, as a result of which they suffered huge losses in the process.

The French rearguard under the command of the Duke of Alençon did not take part in the battle, but when the Duke realized what had happened in the park, he ordered to retreat towards Milan. By 9:00 the battle ended with the complete defeat of the French army.

By the way, who exactly took the French king prisoner is still not clear, since historians put forward many candidates for this role. First of all, this is Charles de Lannoy himself, who made the king his prisoner after, supposedly out of respect, kneeling before him. According to this version, Lannoy and Francis I exchanged swords.

Then they talk about three Spanish soldiers: Alonso Pita da Veiga, Juan de Urbieta and Diego Davila.


Francesco Ferdinando d'Avalos d'Aquino, 7th Marquis of Pescara, 3rd Marquis of Vasto (c. 1530–1571), commander-in-chief of the Spanish army in Lombardy and Piedmont, governor of Milan (1560–1571) is depicted with a spear in his hand. and Viceroy of Sicily (1568–1571)

"Some Germans" who, according to an early account of the battle, found Francis on the ground and wanted to kill him, but spared him after he screamed that he was King of France. Also, a certain Nicholas, Count of Salm, became a holder of the Order of the Golden Fleece for the capture of King Francis. The Italian condottiere Cesare Gercolani was awarded by Charles V as a “hero of Pavia”, but what else did he do besides kill a horse under Francis?

There are other individuals named in some reports. For example, Pedro de Valdivia, the future conqueror of Chile, who allegedly prevented another soldier from killing Francis, and two more French traitors, a follower of Charles de Bourbon, who allegedly convinced King Francis to surrender. The fact is that for many years Charles V himself honored different people for the capture of the king of France for some reason.

It is interesting that on July 24, 1529, Emperor Charles V issued a decree conferring a coat of arms on Alonso Pita da Veig for his deeds in the Battle of Pavia, which was archived in the General Archive of Simanske. In it, Charles V does not point to one person, but to a group of people, which included da Veiga: “... and in the same battle you (Alonso Pita da Veiga) did so much that you captured the said king (Francis I) along with other people."

Finally, in his autobiography, Charles V claimed that "the king was taken prisoner by his chief captains", thus paying tribute to the Duke of Bourbon, Charles de Lannoy and the Marquis of Pescara.


Captain of the German landsknecht Georg von Frundsberg

The main thing is that the defeat of the French was decisive.

In addition to Francis, many noble French nobles were captured, but many more were killed in battle. Francis was taken to the fortress of Pizzigetton, from where he wrote a letter of tragic content to his mother Louise of Savoy: “I am writing to inform you how the rest of my misfortune is proceeding. For me, everything is lost, except for honor and life, which is safe ... ”He had to remain imprisoned in Madrid until he signed the Treaty of Madrid. But then the Pope released him from the need to comply with it, and in 1526 a new Franco-Imperial war began ...


Captain General Charles III, Duke of Bourbon

The most unusual thing about all this is that the victory of Charles V at the Battle of Pavia was almost immediately immortalized in seven beautiful tapestries that tell about the various episodes of this battle.

The material for the tapestries was woolen and silk yarn, silver and gold threads, and all of them have amazing dimensions: from 8 to 9 m in length and about 4,3 m in height. The tapestries were woven between 1528 and 1531. in the workshop of Willem and Jan Dermoyen.


A very curious character in tapestry 5 is a monkey on a mule. And it would be nice if they portrayed her in a wagon train. So no - "goes on the attack" almost in the forefront. Or is it a mule that has loosened its leash and is running wherever its eyes look?

The sketches on cardboard were made by the painter Bernard van Orley (1488–1541), who drew them between 1525 and 1528. The Netherlands at that time were under the rule of Spain. Therefore, it is not surprising that the Estates General presented them as a gift to Charles V on March 2, 1531.

At first they were in the Imperial Collection of the Austrian Emperors, but then fell into the hands of the heirs of Fernando Francesco d'Avalos, Marquis di Pescara (1496–1525), condottiere and Spanish general, Viceroy of Sicily. He was not only a participant in the battle, but also one of its main heroes of the battle, and died from his wounds.

At the end of the XNUMXth century, the tapestries came into the collection of the National Museum of Capodimonte in Naples.


The mysterious lady in red. I wonder if at the time when the tapestry was created, did anyone know who she was? Or was it known only to the artist van Orley?
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  1. +8
    April 24 2023 11: 09
    Vyacheslav Olegovich,
    I read it with pleasure.
    Thank you.
    hi
    1. +4
      April 24 2023 11: 48
      Quote: Edward Vashchenko
      Vyacheslav Olegovich,
      I read it with pleasure.
      Thank you.
      hi

      I join the kind words of Edward!
      The events are interesting, especially in terms of tactics. Karl, not only skillfully chose the time and place of the battle, but also leveled the main trump cards of Francis: the gendarmerie and artillery!
      1. +5
        April 24 2023 12: 00
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Karl, not only skillfully chose the time and place of the battle,

        Well, it was not Charles who fought, but his commanders, but yes, that's right. And also arquebuses and muskets played a very important role!
    2. +6
      April 24 2023 11: 59
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      read with pleasure

      Glad you liked it. I always appreciate your opinion.
  2. +7
    April 24 2023 12: 32
    The last battle of the Middle Ages and the first battle of modern times.

    I do not remember who said, but it was noticed very accurately.
    As for the battle itself, the “collapse of the knightly cavalry” and the “triumph of the musket” were, in my opinion, largely due to the mistakes of King Francis as a commander. Having no numerical superiority over the enemy, he dispersed his troops over rough terrain, allowed his army to be cut and beaten in parts, led the knightly cavalry into the forest, where it turned out to be useless ...
    In short, everything could have ended differently if Francis I had had a little more military talent.
    1. +4
      April 24 2023 12: 58
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      if Francis I had a little more military talent.

      Undoubtedly!
    2. +6
      April 24 2023 13: 09
      The last battle of the Middle Ages and the first battle of modern times.
      I do not remember who said, but it was noticed very accurately.

      Always beckoned this battle! So important in the history of mankind, no matter how sad it sounds for war, but ... the engine of logistics, rationalism, technology, even fashion, and well ... progress. And it's all about her.
      Especially the story about the tapestries of Pavia, to be honest, I have not even heard of them...
      hi hi
      1. +5
        April 24 2023 14: 08
        Klim Zhukov has a fiction book dedicated to this battle - "Soldier of the Emperor". I didn’t read it, but people praise, they say, various military chips of that time are described in great detail and thoughtfully.
        And the battle is really interesting. The gateway to a new era, where everything will very quickly become completely different. The Spanish thirds, shrouded in powder smoke, will replace the Swiss battles, the knights will turn into mercenaries, and exclusively voiced coins will become measures of honor and glory.
        I always feel sad when I read about this battle, as if I were parting with a good old friend forever. And there is no desire to go forward - on the contrary, I want to go back to the Viking Age or the Crusades ...
        1. +4
          April 24 2023 15: 09
          There is also a lecture by K. Zhukov on this battle. He has a good habit of putting the event in a historical context. About half of the lecture is a preamble, but very out of place ..
          1. +5
            April 24 2023 16: 01
            Quote: balabol
            He has a good habit of putting the event in a historical context.

            Yes, this is a valuable skill - to sketch the general situation in broad strokes so as not to get carried away yourself, but to captivate the audience.
            He has a series of lectures dedicated to the battle of Rakovor, so there’s no way in this historical context, four lectures out of eight are devoted to, if I’m not mistaken. And these, it seemed to me, are the most valuable moments of his story, because in fact, he is not so interesting about the battle itself.
        2. +4
          April 24 2023 16: 42
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          when I read about this battle, I feel sad, as if I were parting forever with a good old friend. And there is no desire to go forward

          How well you said!
      2. +3
        April 24 2023 16: 17
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        I'll be honest, I've never heard of them...

        Me too, Edward. That is why I learned about them that I am now working on a book about these times and do not get out of virtual libraries with books from those years.
    3. +9
      April 24 2023 17: 46
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      As for the battle itself, the “collapse of the knightly cavalry” and the “triumph of the musket” were, in my opinion, largely due to the mistakes of King Francis as a commander.

      It seems to me that one of the main "insiders", if not the main one, was the confrontation between the Landsknechts and the Swiss.
      "Some Germans" who, according to an early account of the battle, found Francis on the ground and wanted to kill him, but spared him after he screamed that he was King of France.

      In my opinion, a wonderful episode, I just see a conversation between two landsknechts:
      - Let's smash him!
      - No, let's not, after all, the king!
      - I haven't killed kings yet, let's smash!
      - Listen, let's not, it's a bunch of dough, you can sew a suit (in the sense of bloomers) for yourself with a low tide and go to Yalta! wassat
      1. +4
        April 24 2023 20: 33
        Quote: Mihaylov
        confrontation between the Landsknechts and the Swiss.

        Interestingly, ten years before Pavia, Francis defeated the Swiss in a field battle. True, his army was one and a half times larger, and it took him two days to gouge the Swiss battle with cannons, but the fact remains that he was the first to defeat the Swiss. But, apparently, this occupation seemed so troublesome to him that after the victory he decided only to be friends with the Swiss.
        And the Landsknecht dialogue seems to me something like this.
        - Look, dear Friedrich, the man is lying. He is richly dressed ... Let's cut off his head as part of the class struggle?
        - Come on, dear Ulrich. And then tired of looking at them - all with their heads. There will be some variety...
        - Hey guys, I'm the king of France! I can't cut off my head!
        - Oh, my God! How should this be understood? Will it grow back on you? Dear Friedrich, do you think this wonderful Frenchman's head will grow back?
        - There is only one way to find out, dear Ulrich. Here, look ... (takes out a Katzbalger from the scabbard).
        - Dear valiant Friedrich and Ulrich! Let's talk sensibly! How much are you worth with your heads?
        - Well, thirty guilders a month ...
        - To each!
        - And how much will your heads cost separately from you?
        - Well, uh... If wearing a helmet...
        - Still cheaper. So it is with us kings. The head alone is cheaper. And I can also sing. Just listen: there was a brave landsknecht in the world, he hated the vile Swiss ...
        - What do you say, dear Friedrich? Funny little guy, I think.
        - Yes, funny. And he sings the right songs. Let's show it to our captain. Suddenly, the whole kings are really valued higher?
        - Let's...
        smile
        1. +2
          April 24 2023 20: 49
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          - Dear valiant Friedrich and Ulrich!

          Great, but I suggest replacing Ulrich with Karl. This will add some piquancy to the situation: two German landsknechts, Friedrich and Karl, want to bang the king ... wassat
          1. 0
            April 24 2023 22: 46
            Yes, I agree. Let it be Carl. I could guess myself. smile
    4. +4
      April 24 2023 19: 53
      Good evening, Mikhail! hi
      As for military talent, I do agree, but I believe that there are several other reasons for the defeat of the French:
      1. Armament. In fact, the Spaniards won the battle mainly because they had infantry equipped with muskets that were longer ranged than the arquebuses that the French had. In addition to their range, they could penetrate a knight's armor. But the French forgot about it, and in vain! In 1522, their Swiss allies were defeated at Bicocca precisely because the Spaniards literally covered them with musket fire.
      Of course, I’m not a prophet, but if the French had drawn conclusions from the defeat, then perhaps they would have taken Pavia, and the Spaniards and landsknechts got out of there defeated and slurping unsalted.
      2. Not all French detachments took part in the battle [1], while even the garrison of Pavia took part among the Spaniards. That is, the numerical ratio was not on the side of the French, although initially it was mostly the other way around.
      3. Terrain. The French could have won if they had more room for cavalry maneuvers and artillery fire [2]. But the terrain was uneven, and there was little space.
      Here are the results...
      PS [1] During the battle, the troops of the Duke of Alençon did not take part in the battle.
      [2] Initially, the French outnumbered the enemy in cavalry (2000 Spaniards versus 4000 French) and artillery (17 Spanish cannons and 40-50 French cannons), second only to infantry. If anything, I indicated in brackets approximately, and not exactly 100%.
      1. +2
        April 24 2023 22: 53
        Good evening.
        The reasons you listed just testify to the lack of talent of a military leader in Francis I. Inability to use one's strengths (cavalry and artillery), inability or unwillingness to impose one's own battle scenario on the enemy, passivity, etc. Cannons against landsknechts, gendarmes against riflemen, Swiss against Spanish cavalry, and everything could have been different.
      2. +3
        April 25 2023 00: 13
        1 Armament. In fact, the Spaniards won the battle mainly because they had infantry equipped with muskets that were longer ranged than the arquebuses that the French had.

        No. there were no significant duels of arquebusiers to show someone's superiority in this battle. Pikemen did the main work. The role of the musket is exaggerated
        2. Not all French units took part in the battle

        They accepted almost everything, with the possible exception of part of the troops of D "Alenson
        3. Terrain. The French could have won if they had more room for cavalry maneuvers and artillery fire [2]. But the terrain was uneven, and there was little space.

        There was space, but Francis himself climbed to the edge of the forest, in a hurry to deal with the weak imperial cavalry

        The battle was won by a more controlled and initiative imperial army.
        Pescara quickly assessed the critical situation at the site of the attack of the King of France and sent a messenger to Frundsberg. Frundsberg, at the height of the battle with the Swiss, withdrew half of his forces from the battle and rushed into the forest.

        Francis blocked the line of fire of the French artillery with his attack. The infantry was late and Frundsberg's counterattack at first had to be held back by the gendarmes and the rest of the cavalry. Landsknechts in the service of the French king fought excellently. But they were late and there were too few of them. But the vaunted gendarmes and the Swiss gave slippers as soon as a serious batch began
        1. 0
          April 25 2023 09: 01
          Oh, I forgot about another reason for the defeat: lack of vigilance.
          It was precisely because of insufficient vigilance that the Spaniards made a breach in the wall, and then it went, it went ...
          PS When I mentioned muskets, I meant them as weapons against cavalry.
          And so, I agree with you that muskets were not directly used then, their decisive role since the Thirty Years' War.
  3. +5
    April 24 2023 13: 11
    Tapestry 1. It shows the attack of the French gendarmes led by King Francis I.

    The topic can be continued. The order of the tapestries used by the author is, shall we say, classical. However, the mentioned tapestries are still the subject of numerous studies by historians and art critics. And recently there have been more and more publications on the topic that tapestries, if arranged in the sequence 5, 3, 1, 2, 4, 7, 6 in a circle with appropriate lighting, are one of the first examples of a battle panorama - a picturesque picture covering the entire the circle of the horizon and creating for the viewer placed in the center the illusion of a real surrounding space.
  4. +3
    April 24 2023 15: 10
    ".... Landsknecht weapons - their halberds and swords calzbager"
    Still, Katzbalger (Katzbalger) is a sword for "cat dumps", "cat-coder".
    1. +4
      April 24 2023 16: 22
      Really. Not otherwise the devil pushed by the arm ....
      1. +2
        April 24 2023 20: 20
        Quote: kalibr
        Really. Not otherwise the devil pushed by the arm ....

        Not a devil, but a cat!!!
  5. +4
    April 24 2023 18: 02
    Francis I himself, miraculously escaping death, was taken prisoner.

    To be captured, as I understand it, is the "good old tradition" of the French kings: one immediately recalls Saint Louis IX, John the Good, Francis I, Napoleon III. laughing
    Any other country can "boast" a large number of captive kings? hi
    1. Fat
      +4
      April 24 2023 20: 06
      hi Greetings Sergey. It seems that only China can boast a comparable number of captive emperors. smile
      1. Liu Shan (刘禅), last emperor of Shu Han, 207–271
      2. Sima Chi (司馬炽), Fourth Emperor of Western Jin, 284–313.
      3. Li Yu (李煜), last emperor of Southern Tang, 938–978
      4. Zhao Ji (赵佶), 1082th Emperor of the Northern Song, 1135–XNUMX
      5. Zhao Huan (赵桓), ninth emperor of the Northern Song, 1100–1161

      This is not counting the last emperor of the Qing state, Emperor Pu Yi of Manchukuo (爱新觉罗.溥仪)...
      1. +1
        April 24 2023 20: 52
        Quote: Thick
        It seems that only China can boast a comparable number of captive emperors.

        Good evening!
        it turns out the Chinese win: 5-4? hi
        1. Fat
          +2
          April 24 2023 21: 52
          Frankly, this "sport" was not considered in such a bookmaker's way. However ... It took roughly 800 years for both of them to participate in the "championship", despite the fact that the Chinese stage of the "derby" ended, to put it mildly, early laughing