Destroying submarine internet cables between the US and Europe would hit both Starlink communications in Ukraine and SpaceX as a whole

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Destroying submarine internet cables between the US and Europe would hit both Starlink communications in Ukraine and SpaceX as a whole

The fact that communication in war is one of the key factors for victory has been said many times. Much has been said about the fact that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) have certain problems with communications, so volunteers have to purchase civilian radio stations to be sent to the zone of the special military operation (SVO). However, the problem is not even in this, but in the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU) have everything in order with communications - they are supplied with the latest, digital, Western-made radio stations that are protected from listening. But most importantly, they are provided with Starlink satellite communication terminals manufactured by SpaceX.

Starlink terminals not only provide the Armed Forces with global high-speed communications, but also allow them to create remote-controlled strike weapons. Starlink terminals are installed on unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of a quadrocopter (octacopter / hexacopter) type, capable of conducting reconnaissance at a great distance and dropping ammunition on the positions and equipment of the Russian troops. Starlink terminals are installed on stealth remote-controlled kamikaze boats that can be used against the Russian fleet or infrastructure facilities. Starlink terminals can be installed on long-range kamikaze UAVs, with the help of which the Armed Forces of Ukraine will try to deliver the most painful high-precision strikes in the depths of the territory of the Russian Federation - you should not compare them with cruise missiles, since feedback will increase the effectiveness of strikes by such UAVs by an order of magnitude.



Yes, it seems like Elon Musk limited the speed at which Starlink terminals can be used in the NWO zone, and also limited the possibility of their use on the territory of the Russian Federation, but who knows where the conflict will lead us, what decisions will be made and what commands it will (Elon Musk ) will receive.

So it turns out that the Starlink satellite communications network is still one of the highest priority targets for attack.

Impact Options


We have already talked about them. The most radical way is the physical destruction of most of the satellite constellation using orbital satellite interceptors, discussed in the material "Reaper" will clean up the orbit: you can shoot down Starlink satellites faster than Elon Musk can launch them. The problem is that we don’t have Reapers yet, and if somewhere in the depths of the Russian military-industrial complex (MIC) a certain Kosmos-X satellite with comparable capabilities is maturing, then nothing is known about it yet, how and about whether the leadership of the Russian Federation will decide on such radical actions as the destruction of the largest low-orbit satellite constellation of the enemy on the planet, albeit a civilian, commercial one.


The concept of the orbital interceptor "Reaper"

An even more difficult task is hunt for Starlink ground terminals. They are mobile, the communication signal pattern is oriented upwards, the signal is encrypted.

Is there any other way to harm Starlink?

Presumably, there are such opportunities, but you will have to act indirectly, for this you will have to ...

Blow up the submarine cables of the Internet


Perhaps this is the first thing that needed to be done immediately after the Western countries blew up the underwater part of the Nord Stream. Yes, it is difficult to do this, but do we have the Main Directorate for Deep Sea Research (GUGI) of the RF Ministry of Defense?

In the end, you can test Poseidon - we have suspended our participation in the treaty on measures to reduce and limit strategic offensive arms (START) - who knows what happened under water there, maybe it is the United States itself that secretly conducts nuclear tests under water - you can blame them for this. Or maybe use autonomous underwater vehicles (AUVs), carrying a powerful explosive charge, in the "kamikaze" mode.

Or maybe, on the contrary, nothing global is required - small kamikaze AUVs or underwater saboteurs can quite cope with this task - how realistic is it for the US Navy to ensure control over submarine cables throughout their route passing through the Atlantic ocean?

Even if only part of the cables can be damaged, the effect will be very significant, and not only political, but also economic. Many large companies, whose partners or branches are located overseas, constantly require a powerful Internet channel to provide remote access to employees. For example, when Boeing had an engineering center in Russia, all information was stored on servers in the United States, and the work of Russian engineers was carried out remotely. It is easy to imagine how difficult the activities of European and American companies working "on a remote basis" will be if the bandwidth of the Internet connection decreases several times, or even an order of magnitude or two.

Companies will suffer, but will do their best to stay afloat. How will they get out of the situation? They use all available communication channels, including satellite communication channels, including Starlink satellite communication, which, as we know, has become the basis for providing high-speed global communications to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The higher the load on the Starlink satellite communications network, the worse the APU’s communication will be - more delay, lower speed. After all, SpaceX is a commercial company that puts profit first. There is no doubt that Elon Musk has not the slightest desire to get into the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, but he is under pressure. However, the more problems Ukraine creates for his business, the more he will resist. Companies from Europe and the US will pay SpaceX money and demand high-quality communications for this. Even if Elon Musk does not turn off Starlink Ukraine, he may well reduce their data transfer speed and reduce the number of simultaneously available channels in order to provide preferential communication conditions for commercial companies, which, unlike Ukraine, will pay him for it money.

The deterioration in the quality of APU communications is only part of the puzzle. The consequences of destroying underwater Internet cables could be far greater.

Mixed Consequences


The destruction of transcontinental cables will cause a severe shortage in the Internet communications market between the US and Europe. And this problem cannot be solved in a short period of time, especially since there will be no guarantees that the newly laid submarine cables will not be damaged again.

This will inevitably cause a surge in demand for alternative ways to transfer data between continents, in particular, for the services of SpaceX and its Starlink satellite communications network. As we said earlier, this will most likely cause an increased load on the equipment of the Starlink network, which will force Elon Musk to choose between helping Ukraine or satisfying paying customers. But, even if SpaceX chooses a business, in an environment of increased demand, the emergence of competitors, such as OneWeb, is inevitable.

If now the development of OneWeb is largely constrained by the significant competitive advantages of SpaceX - they are the first, they have their own launch vehicles (LV), satellites, then in the event of an explosive growth in demand, the space communications services market is quite capable of accommodating one or two more players. Moreover, if new market participants do not appear, then there is a risk that SpaceX will be interested in the antimonopoly services of the United States and European countries, which may well forcibly split Elon Musk's business into its constituent elements - delivery vehicles (RN) separately, satellite production separately, communication services separately.


"Cub" - OneWeb satellite model

Thus, the destruction of transcontinental Internet communication cables in the short term may bring significant dividends to SpaceX, but in the long term it will deprive them of many competitive advantages, including the No. 1 position in the market for orbital communications services.

In addition, competitive pressure on Starlink could indirectly affect other areas of SpaceX's business, especially if there are any difficulties along the way. For example, the uncertain prospects for Starlink in the event of the active development of one or two competitors, combined with one or two accidents of a promising superheavy reusable rocket Starship, could potentially lead to the closure of the Starship launch vehicle project, and this, in turn, could save our country from serious troubles in the form of the US deployment of an orbital reconnaissance and strike echelon.

Thus, an underwater explosion can better clear the orbit than a promising anti-satellite weapon.

It is very likely that the destruction of submarine cables will force a reconsideration of the priorities of the American and European fleets - let them be in business, there is nothing for them to wipe out in the Black Sea or hunt for Russian strategic submarine missile carriers.

Soft power


After new players appear on the satellite communications market, it would be advisable to make life as difficult as possible for all of them. For example, to stimulate protests by environmental organizations and animal advocates, because satellites disrupt the sleep of polar bears and contribute to the extinction of the Canadian weevil.


The weevil dying out due to Starlink looks at Elon Musk with reproach...

The claims of astronomers to SpaceX are also quite justified - you give a clear sky above your head. Do not forget about the claims of the alternatively gifted part of the planet's population, because, like 5G towers, Starlink satellites and their analogues clearly negatively affect the human aura and contribute to the spread of coronavirus. There is a court, here is a manifestation, and somewhere the vandalism of disgruntled citizens, as they say, is a trifle, but nice.

At the state level, you can work with independent states - often satellite constellations require ground base stations to increase the efficiency of their work. You can put pressure on SpaceX and their competitors with the threat of destroying their satellites, for example, demonstration of the possibility of a successive passage past them by the Russian satellite "inspector", which will send detailed images of potential targets to Earth.

Satellite communications networks may be subject to attacks by hacker groups, some may simply fail suddenly, the combat laser complex (BLK) "Peresvet" is capable of this?

Conclusions


It is necessary to fight the enemy’s communications by all possible means, and if this also allows inflicting large financial damage on the Western sponsors of Ukrainian Nazism, then why not?

The explosion of underwater Internet cables was supposed to take place immediately after the Nord Stream gas pipeline was destroyed. This is the only way to show the enemy the seriousness of your intentions, and not at all by drawing mythical “red lines”.

In addition, in addition to direct damage to the economies of the Western countries, the destruction of submarine Internet cables would most likely affect the deterioration in the quality and availability of satellite communications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and potentially the hard-to-predict ups and downs of players in the space communications services market, due to market instability. exacerbated by the factors of "soft power" discussed above.
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  1. +39
    April 5 2023 04: 48
    If the Kremlin inmates forbid our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to use strategic bomber aircraft to resolve the issue of destroying clusters of all, then what kind of destruction of cables can we talk about? And forget to think ... And what will the dear partners say that Europe will think about how it will react? It is also very important not to make business partners worry.
    1. +2
      April 5 2023 11: 37
      Not to say that she can do something more powerful than the standard Su24 / 24 ..... they don’t let them fly.
    2. +7
      April 6 2023 07: 30
      We cannot destroy the CPR, bridges, crossings .... FOR A WHOLE YEAR !!? ANSWER never arrived for Server threads .... What are we waiting for, brothers ??? I forgot .... Counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine !!!
      1. +2
        April 6 2023 10: 48
        If without emotions. The "strange" VO is a guarantee that while the U-country is fighting, NATO will not climb directly. There is a war of waiting. Who will make sudden movements - will lose.

        Those who grew up through the ranks in the army or in civilian life will understand ... When you become a boss, the perception of service and affairs changes greatly with each step ... It is clear that the lives of millions are important, but when the lives of billions are on the other side of the scale, the logic of decision-making will be " incomprehensible" for a sincere guardian of the salvation of millions ...

        PS: A bit of a flood for current strategists. The tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is continuous "reconnaissance in force" along the entire front line. I would take very seriously the site / direction where this does not happen. Very likely - this is the direction of the GU.
        1. +1
          April 6 2023 15: 39
          Quote: Bayun
          Very likely - this is the direction of the GU.

          You don't have to go far - the border regions of Russia. Least of all - Belgorodskaya. Further west. Very sensitive areas. Large shoulder pull (Trishka's caftan) troops. As the defense capability decreases, the implementation of all previously outlined areas
  2. +11
    April 5 2023 05: 00
    destruction of submarine internet cables
    The thing is interesting, even necessary, but who decides on this!
    1. +8
      April 5 2023 07: 14
      The United States decided to blow up the northern streams
      1. +14
        April 5 2023 11: 37
        These are two big differences ... the United States does it, and we draw Red lines
        1. 0
          April 6 2023 21: 23
          Want to act like the States act...?
    2. +1
      April 5 2023 08: 22
      All power to the Soviets!

      Quote from Uncle Lee
      The thing is interesting, even necessary, but who decides on this!

      Do you understand that the entire Internet goes through servers in the USA? What happens if they blow up? And there won’t be anything, we won’t have an Internet with you, we won’t sit here on VO because there will be no access.

      Well, how? Still want to blow up the cables? laughing
      1. +24
        April 5 2023 12: 43
        I have 4 bookcases. A year or two I'll turn around.
      2. +9
        April 5 2023 21: 25
        . Well, how? Still want to blow up the cables? laughing


        Yes, we will meet more often with friends. drinks
      3. +3
        April 6 2023 16: 08
        It seems that you do not understand what you are writing about, do not mislead people. There will always be access to VO, as long as VO itself wants it
      4. +1
        April 13 2023 22: 22
        So what's the problem in creating a backup alternative based on existing networks?
    3. +8
      April 5 2023 14: 16
      The thing is interesting, even necessary, but who decides on this!
      About 30 years ago, when there were less than five FOLs across the Atlantic, one could fantasize about the destruction of communications and the Internet. Now, when there are two dozen such cables, far apart from each other, but tied to automatic traffic reservation, damage to one cable will not lead to a break in communications and the Internet.
      But in response, we will get breaks in the main fiber optic lines on our land, which can be done by one terrorist with a shovel. At the same time, all FOCL routes are marked on the ground with signal posts with a sign. winked
      1. -1
        April 5 2023 19: 14
        The author of the article, this comment nullifies the expediency of damaging submarine cables. What do you think?
        1. +3
          April 6 2023 07: 37
          It does not reset, but only indicates the fact of automatic traffic redundancy in the event of a break even in several cables at the same time. Another thing is that restoration and material damage cannot be compared with a cable break in the ground, which is easier to do, but easier to fix.
          What surprises me in this discussion is everyone's obsession with submarine cables. Wouldn't it be better to remember that there are quite a few underwater gas pipelines, and one of them crosses all 4 lines of the Nord Streams ... So? Now you can even blow it up at the intersection point and make a face with a shovel - I don’t know anything, look for a “third” who harms both you and us ... The main thing is to come up with a “third” who benefits from it. Historically, the "thirds" have always been Jews ..request
          1. -1
            April 6 2023 08: 51
            You can, but… who will benefit the most from this? It is not funny, but again the United States - another source of energy resources for the EU will be destroyed, the supply will be reduced and prices will rise. American SPGs will get richer even more. The economy and industry of the EU will be covered by an even greater recession, which will contribute to its migration to the United States. We have the case when a symmetrical response gives (intensifies) the same effect as undermining the joint venture. We need an asymmetric answer.
          2. +2
            April 6 2023 09: 08
            Historically, the "thirds" have always been Jews ...

            Well, about the Jews, here you, my friend, went too far. The Jews would never blow up underwater pipelines: you need to pump the money, but point out the impudent Saxons, it would be straight to the point, an armor-piercing hit. For example, like this: what are you, what are you ... ask the impudent Saxons, they always know everything and know how to blow up and cover their tracks ... No wonder, for several centuries now, an Englishwoman has been shitting all the time ...
            1. +1
              April 6 2023 13: 14
              Well, about the Jews, here you, my friend, went too far.
              Is it? They are always and everywhere to blame... laughing You are too serious and straightforward about my banter with the Jews. Next time I will insert more emoticons under my jokes.
        2. 0
          April 6 2023 15: 45
          Quote: Mikhail Ivanov
          The author of the article, this comment nullifies the expediency of damaging submarine cables. What do you think?

          I'm not the author, but I can put it simply. The whole world is in ruins, and no one is talking about cables. forget about cables.
      2. +5
        April 5 2023 19: 29
        Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
        But in response we get breaks in the main FOCL

        We'll get them anyway, if it's interesting. And then there are train stations, airports, tunnels and passenger planes taking off and landing and other vulnerable objects.
        1. 0
          April 7 2023 09: 37
          We'll get them anyway, if it's interesting. And there are train stations, airports, tunnels
          Don't tell the bastards... And they haven't got to the main FOCLs yet, realizing that the recovery time is calculated at most a day for the most inaccessible places. They came from the other side, stopping the supply and repair of existing equipment. While we are coping with the old stock, but it’s already hard winked
      3. 0
        April 7 2023 01: 24
        What's stopping them from doing it now? When something blows up in our country, it is not a response to any of our actions.
      4. 0
        April 13 2023 22: 32
        The network on land is restored easily and quickly. In case of accidents on the railway, power lines, the main cables are torn, damaged. And nothing.
        It is quite another matter to cut off intercontinental submarine lines. It's like a conventional bridge. It is possible to fill up one support without consequences for the bearing capacity. Hit three and the whole bridge collapses. The network just can't handle the load. Perhaps, by disabling some of the secondary servers and redistributing traffic, the system will survive. But with a mass failure of communication systems, half of the world will simply stand up.
        It is much more interesting to "put" the dispatching of energy networks.
    4. -2
      April 8 2023 07: 52
      After the destruction of these cables, a lot of countries will want to remove the dirty country from the world map. Which, moreover, does not supply anything critically irreplaceable
  3. +12
    April 5 2023 05: 06
    Dreams, dreams of the author ... with our political leadership, it is problematic to realize them.
    One separate grain deal is worth something ... and here the transcontinental cables need to be broken ... let's wait and see how far the Kremlin's hand stretches.
    1. +11
      April 5 2023 07: 17
      Until now, we are whining that the agreement on the grain deal is not being implemented.
    2. +22
      April 5 2023 07: 31
      The Kremlin's hand only reaches our wallets
  4. +7
    April 5 2023 05: 17
    I remember we have "Losharik" - an underwater descent vehicle. So he should cut the cable. And then it will be like with the Nord Streams - no one knows anything and everyone shrug their shoulders. This cable should have been cut a long time ago...
    1. +4
      April 5 2023 12: 15
      If it was repaired .... and a new crew was created. Then there is. And judging by the actions of 404 rebels, it is necessary to build 3 more such loshariks and transfer them to the LDNR rebels (from unliberated territories)
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    2. 0
      April 13 2023 22: 39
      Damage to one cable will do nothing. But if you undermine a dozen or two of them, "dear partners" will come out with diarrhea.
  5. +1
    April 5 2023 05: 23
    This should have been done immediately after the SP-2 was blown up, and prepared in advance, instead of pumping funds into the Poseidons (unless, of course, this is a large-scale disinformation)
  6. +19
    April 5 2023 06: 02
    Quote: Luminman
    I remember we have "Losharik" - an underwater descent vehicle. So he should cut the cable. And then it will be like with the Nord Streams - no one knows anything and everyone shrug their shoulders. This cable should have been cut a long time ago...

    We don't have shit... There are oligarchs, there are multis of "having no analogues", there are, cheerfully reporting Konashenkov - the same. No "Ukrainian DRG" and "SBU" encroach on him - perhaps they even protect him. And if something or someone appears - like Vladlen (or Motorola, Givi and others that were before) - then they leave under very strange circumstances ...
    1. +4
      April 5 2023 07: 20
      I don’t understand at all what our FSB is doing? Catching drunks?
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      2. 0
        April 6 2023 08: 53
        And what does the FSB have to do with joint ventures, cables and sabotage outside the territory of the Russian Federation?
  7. +5
    April 5 2023 06: 57
    Thus, the destruction of transcontinental Internet communication cables in the short term may bring significant dividends to SpaceX, but in the long term it will deprive them of many competitive advantages, including the No. 1 position in the market for orbital communications services.

    This is complete ignorance of Mr. Mask. Faced with such a situation, he simply forces his grouping to reach a new level. Starlink 3.0 are huge satellites for launching on Starships with gigantic laser communication channels for thousands of terabits. And weather factors will be resolved as the military plans, through a separate penetrating laser. I think Musk will be able to easily get access to the Pentagon's D-Star technologies, as well as scale his decisions, and the unlimited funding that will pour into him, as well as the highest political carte blanche, will allow him to crush everyone with his feet
    1. ata
      +1
      April 5 2023 18: 46
      This is complete ignorance of Mr. Mask.

      Indeed, it is complete ignorance that the so-called genius Musk is a NASA project and that his pseudo-successful space program costs a lot of money and that the cost of launches is underestimated at times, and the difference is paid to him, a very expensive advertising campaign. They would not be able to pull it out financially, or it would cost them a lot of money amid the unfolding financial crisis.
      1. +1
        April 6 2023 17: 06
        You probably have documents, evidence, the exact amounts that the launch costs and how much NASA pays Musk extra. If you write this, then give accurate data.
  8. +1
    April 5 2023 07: 10
    Blow up the submarine cables of the Internet
    This is what I understand, as they used to say - with "workers' and peasants' simplicity and revolutionary hatred of the bourgeoisie." I do not rule out that such an option in response to the "SP" explosions was calculated, scrupulously weighing all the pros and cons. As a result, probably "against" pulled the scales.
  9. +12
    April 5 2023 07: 19
    I still don’t understand what Starlink terminals on drones the author is talking about, if the terminal is an antenna and a wifi router. Inconspicuous kamikaze drones with a 51*30 cm antenna???
    1. +1
      April 5 2023 21: 24
      It will fit on the Strizh. Another bunch of Chinese, Israeli large drones. Those Mungins. Drones the size of Geranium, or Harop. There was already a precedent, it was after this that Musk limited the use of terminals.
  10. +5
    April 5 2023 07: 57
    Here we can safely agree, as they say, communication, mail, telegraph take and victory is close! And yet, the destruction of the transatlantic Internet cable and TP must either be done immediately in response to the undermining of SP-1 and SP-2, for example, since no one will be held responsible for this, which is already clear. Or don't do it at all. A more liberal view was chosen not to do this apparently. It’s good that no one was punished for this, this damaged the security of the Russian Federation and made the words about the red lines drawn in the Russian Federation a dummy, but at the same time, the fact that the Russian Federation did not destroy the transatlantic Internet cable suggests that we in the Russian Federation understand that we are not engaged in terrorist provocations and do not become like the enemy for the time being! Yes, there is an opinion that in war all means are good, but for the most part this is not so! My opinion is that there is no answer for undermining SP-1 and SP-2, but it's never too late to give it! But not by such measures. At the same time, I think that the destruction of the transatlantic cable as a response to the threat to the security of the Russian Federation instead of using nuclear weapons in Ukraine in a critical situation will be the norm, but if they don’t understand it in Europe and America, then I don’t know. And nuclear war is not far away. In general, the use of nuclear weapons is the last thing to do, and the alternative is the destruction of the Internet for the West and the United States, if we turn it off, the alternative is not bad. Well, the Stone Age can also be brought by the destruction of the Internet, after which people will become a little freer and will spend more time in nature and work rather than sitting on phones and PCs. Live communication will become more frequent than virtual communication.
  11. +6
    April 5 2023 08: 09
    In addition, in addition to direct damage to the economies of Western countries
    They, our "partners", albeit not yet friendly, but how can they harm partners? laughing They, vindictive, will remember. laughing
  12. +1
    April 5 2023 08: 35
    The author - you either need to immediately SNF at decision-making centers, or it's better to just knock out Internet equipment in / in Ukraine. There are obviously not very many nodal points. Locally we will overload the starlink, we will limit the tsipso and the employees of the "banks".
    1. +2
      April 5 2023 09: 21
      Obviously not very many - just a few thousand terminals in the country and a base station in Poland. Shaaaaas how to overload the starlink so that the adversary is afraid!
  13. +13
    April 5 2023 09: 32

    Destroying Undersea Internet Cables Between US and Europe Will Destroy Both Starlink Communications

    An interesting story, and an entertaining storyteller ...
    What destruction of cables and satellites, if we are conducting a strange military operation in which notorious Nazis are released to a resort, various excursions go around Kuev instead of smashing this center of Kuev, there’s nothing to even talk about pumping gas and ammonia, and weapons are delivered as to the supermarket..
  14. +9
    April 5 2023 09: 32
    All these are fantasies similar to "I'll freeze my ears to spite my mother", IMHO

    Starlink and so on are commercial satellites. Pay, use, at least call blacks, even generals. Quarreled with Musk, but there are none of your own? say thanks to the Kremlin and Rogozin.
    There is no war. And to spoil officially commercial satellites .... a strong trump card in the hands of NATO.

    As are the cables. Listen quietly? please if you can. Clearly explode? a trump card again for NATO.

    Green protests? Everyone already understands everything. Late chatting. Will cause laughter.
    Either wind turbines prevent worms from living (remember who said?), then you need to build more of them ..
    Yes, and money simply "optimize". Will go out with the green "make friends"
  15. +6
    April 5 2023 09: 43
    From our toothless government, only dreaming of making peace with the enemy, it is foolish to expect some kind of decisive, meaningful response! The authorities, led by a guarantor who speaks fluently on any topic, simply does not respond to any meanness, to any hostile actions - neither to the loss of the Moskva cruiser, nor to the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines (and this is an act of state terrorism!) , neither for shelling the population, nor for killing journalists ... So, there is nothing to dream of damaging submarine cables! The authorities, constantly receiving kicks from the West, only complain to their population... As the guarantor said, they deceived... For every hostile action there must be such a response that the enemy thinks a hundred times before doing dirty tricks. But for adequate response, you need to have the will, the mind - but do they exist? That's why - and no one will touch their cables, and Dugin's killers will not be punished, and dill will continue torturing prisoners of war and civilians ...
  16. +6
    April 5 2023 13: 00
    Quote from: FoBoss_VM
    If the Kremlin inmates forbid our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to use strategic bomber aircraft to resolve the issue of destroying clusters of all, then what kind of destruction of cables can we talk about? And forget to think ... And what will the dear partners say that Europe will think about how it will react? It is also very important not to make business partners worry.

    Quote from: FoBoss_VM
    If the Kremlin inmates forbid our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to use strategic bomber aircraft to resolve the issue of destroying clusters of all, then what kind of destruction of cables can we talk about? And forget to think ... And what will the dear partners say that Europe will think about how it will react? It is also very important not to make business partners worry.

    It can be said that they took it off the finger when I wanted to comment on the title of the article. I agree with you that in order to win the "event" that the current military-political leadership of the Russian Federation is holding, the Supreme High Command is needed not in position, but in spirit and with a different, not anti-Soviet ideology, but with the ideology of Victory over fascism in the 21st century. Yes, and only then can we win! sad
  17. +7
    April 5 2023 13: 55
    Instead of our terrible concern, the destruction of communication cables would be much clearer to the naughty side that it is impossible to blow up underwater gas pipelines without war.
  18. +4
    April 5 2023 14: 41
    what is more important?? transatlantic cables or peace of mind of relatives abroad? of course, relatives, real estate and bills ...
  19. 0
    April 5 2023 14: 50
    The most radical way is to physically destroy most of the satellite constellation with the help of orbital satellite interceptors, discussed in the material "Reaper" will clear the orbit: you can shoot down Starlink satellites faster than Elon Musk can launch them. The problem is that we don't have Reapers yet., and if somewhere in the depths of the Russian military-industrial complex (MIC) a certain Kosmos-X satellite with comparable capabilities is maturing, then nothing is known about him yet, as well as about whether the leadership of the Russian Federation will decide on such radical actions as the destruction of the largest low-orbit satellite constellation of the enemy on the planet, albeit a civilian, commercial
    Indeed, such a "smallness" limits the flight of the author's imagination! It must be assumed fortunately, because his irresponsible divergence from reality, misunderstanding of our capabilities and the consequences of actions are very dangerous ... winked
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  21. ata
    +3
    April 5 2023 18: 56
    This idea has already been seen in the comments on this respected site. The participants in the discussion in the majority understand that the problem again lies in the political field, namely, the corrupt and treacherous political leadership of the country and is the main enemy of our people, bringing him great harm, and stealing the fruits of not only the labor of the Soviet people, but also the feat of arms of our soldiers, officers and generals.
    They deliberately brought the country to the state in which it is now, including economically. Even today, Putin openly admits that they are forced to introduce the so-called import substitution, and that if it were not for the sanctions, they would not do this.

    That is, this is a direct recognition of responsibility for the policy of undermining the country's defense capability and destroying the country's economic potential. They should be judged not in The Hague, but in Moscow, by the people's tribunal.


    And with regard to Starlink, it can be added that in this way, trying to quietly finance the supposedly civilian project supposedly Mask, the United States is gradually preparing for star wars, we see how Starlink is now being used in the Ukrainian war.
    1. +1
      April 5 2023 21: 11
      Andreika - did your Poles help you, son?
  22. 0
    April 5 2023 19: 43
    Conclusions

    The conclusion is simple - the author does not know how many Starlink satellites are in orbit now and how many will be launched in total.
    For information, the first generation - about 3500 satellites have already been launched.
    Second generation - 7500 satellites in progress.
    How he was going to shoot them down is a mystery.
  23. 0
    April 5 2023 21: 09
    Well, in general, whoever reads the news could have read that ours (or unknown attackers) cut the deep-sea whale detection cable (NPS) North Cape-Bear- and the Norgs were crazy- infa then went to NATO - so the pipelines are already an answer)) ) why ours don’t continue, maybe they agreed, don’t rage
  24. +3
    April 5 2023 21: 10
    You can dream as much as you like, but our bosses will never dare to do so. The country will die, and will not decide because "what will the Partners say?".
  25. +3
    April 5 2023 21: 28
    All this is the wishes of the author. In reality, everything will be different. How? Yes, just as it was after the explosion of the northern streams and after the crossing of countless "red lines", the Russian leadership will remain inactive. In general, life has shown that action is the main and only reaction of the rulers of Russia to any provocation, any aggressive attack, any most hostile action against Russia. Against this background, it may well be that even in response to the use of nuclear weapons against Russia, the Russian political leadership would prefer not to launch a retaliatory nuclear strike on the enemy. This will mean that the government has betrayed the country and its people. But unfortunately, it will be too late to do anything in such a situation ...
  26. 0
    April 5 2023 21: 54
    It's a shame for the state in the dispute over Radio Communications in that we use not our developments (do not confuse the Chinese walkie-talkie with a re-glued nameplate in Russian), but Chinese portable / affordable radio stations.
    I am sure that if there are developed domestic radio communications, then it is the later understanding of the situation "At the top" that prevents their release and introduction into the troops!
    And why invest if you can buy, re-glue the nameplate and pass it off as your own ...
    1. +4
      April 5 2023 23: 47
      I am sure that if there are developed domestic radio communications, then it is the later understanding of the situation "At the top" that prevents their release and introduction into the troops!

      It's the destruction of the economy that's stopping us, not the enemies at the top. (The enemies above just destroyed the economy...) The economy is a pyramid, not a minaret.
      In order not to stick nameplates - you need to have a lot of competing specialists with different developments - of which the best survive, and not expect that secret physicists will make each development in one copy the best in the world - unparalleled, yes, it’s easy, but working is acceptable - much more difficult. You need to try a lot of things - and in parallel, and not 10 years in series.
      And it is necessary to choose what was from the components. Not American, but at least Chinese - our new partners, alas, are still catching up too.
  27. -1
    April 5 2023 21: 58

    A fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it,
    But, unfortunately, not a lesson ...
  28. +3
    April 5 2023 22: 34
    Blow up the submarine cables of the Internet

    And what will it give for the SVO?
    Zelensky will offer a truce? Hardly.
    Taiwanese TSMC will require loading for their lines with our Elbrus?
    Biden will not be able to call Scholz and Macron with another instruction on what Europe should do?
    Ukrainian grain, which ruins farmers in Europe, will magically end up in Africa and Asia?
    Maybe we will erect full-cycle factories for the production of cars like the Iranian SAIPA by themselves?
  29. 0
    April 5 2023 23: 13
    Wanting and being able are two different things. Maybe they want to cut the cables, but can they?
    1. 0
      April 6 2023 17: 07
      There is a big question: "Do they want to?" Or rather: "Will they dare?"
  30. -1
    April 5 2023 23: 41
    If almost immediately the unknown saboteurs who attacked Nord Stream would have damaged the cables - yes, who knows what kind of terrorists did it, but someone would have thought about the universal nature of such attacks ...
    And now it's too late...
  31. -1
    April 5 2023 23: 56
    enemy satellite constellation, albeit civil, commercial

    What nafik is civil, commercial, if the author himself writes that:
    Starlink terminals not only provide the Armed Forces with global high-speed communications, but also allow them to create remote-controlled strike weapons.

    Destroy them just like other weapons on the battlefield that we are destroying...
  32. 0
    April 5 2023 23: 59
    The higher the load on the Starlink satellite communications network, the worse the APU’s communication will be - more delay, lower speed.

    Gotta do it!
    in the long term, it will deprive them of many competitive advantages, including the No. 1 position in the market of orbital communication services.

    If we do this, we will show that we are not afraid of them at all. While we take blows and endure, we show only disobedience. It is necessary to strike at the USA, at their hegemony in the field of informatization. They are through pipes, we are through cables. Beautiful.
  33. +2
    April 6 2023 01: 46
    Forget about all the superweapons announced by Chemezov and Shoigu, it was all a divorce between Putin and the state budget. In fact, there is no Armata, Peresvet did not confirm the declared characteristics during tests last year. The bully, who, according to Shoigu, burns drones 5 km away and who was brought to the front for testing, also did not confirm the characteristics of the terms of reference, a useless imitation of a combat laser. A planning aerial bomb Drill with a range of 20 km and at the cost of Bayraktar is absolutely useless for breaking through air defense, since the plane is guaranteed to be shot down at such a distance. But the most monstrous myth was in the field of electronic warfare. All these Krasuhi and other prodigies turned out to be shameless advertising. Nothing is suppressed, neither radar nor radio communications, cellular with difficulty and analog. Shoigu and Chemezov plundered and ruined the army. They couldn’t even provide the army with shells, stealing is not fighting, fighting skills and intelligence are needed, but what kind of intelligence do thieves have?
  34. 0
    April 6 2023 11: 07
    Hands off the weevil! Don't spoil our aura!
  35. +1
    April 6 2023 11: 19
    Quote: biznaw
    Forget about all the superweapons announced by Chemezov and Shoigu, it was all a divorce between Putin and the state budget. In fact, there is no Armata, Peresvet did not confirm the declared characteristics during tests last year. The bully, who, according to Shoigu, burns drones 5 km away and who was brought to the front for testing, also did not confirm the characteristics of the terms of reference, a useless imitation of a combat laser. A planning aerial bomb Drill with a range of 20 km and at the cost of Bayraktar is absolutely useless for breaking through air defense, since the plane is guaranteed to be shot down at such a distance. But the most monstrous myth was in the field of electronic warfare. All these Krasuhi and other prodigies turned out to be shameless advertising. Nothing is suppressed, neither radar nor radio communications, cellular with difficulty and analog. Shoigu and Chemezov plundered and ruined the army. They couldn’t even provide the army with shells, stealing is not fighting, fighting skills and intelligence are needed, but what kind of intelligence do thieves have?

    Well, here you, my friend, turned down! For half of the existence of the USSR, we are being told that the Abramovichs-Gusinskys-Chubais and others like them are the most brilliant personalities who robbed ... ugh! earned money by unloading wagons (Prokhorov)! But they are thieves, right? No one will deny the obvious fact, will they? Yes, and against people higher in St. Petersburg, criminal cases were initiated for theft, and they turned out to be "masters of multi-move"!
  36. +1
    April 6 2023 12: 48
    The destruction of ocean optical cables is akin to a weapon "based on new physical" principles, that is, another piece of news from the realm of non-science fiction. The regiment of seekers of miracle weapons for the final victory over the adversary is regularly replenished with new neophytes, the author, apparently, is one of them.
    1. +1
      April 6 2023 17: 04
      We are waiting for the next super mouse project :))
  37. 0
    April 6 2023 13: 26
    I definitely support. But GDP is notorious for being exceptionally unpredictable. Although many ideas should be "baked out," as was the case with the idea of ​​"Poseidon", expressed by Academician Sakharov.
  38. +1
    April 6 2023 15: 15
    Fairy tales. Firstly, there is no technical possibility to destroy several thousand mask satellites. Secondly, a lot of cables will destroy everything, everything will not work out, but this will not have an impact on military operations.
    Well, thirdly, it might be better to buy from the terminal mask and provide a connection?
  39. +2
    April 6 2023 17: 01
    What attacks on submarine cables. Author wake up. We cannot close the valve on our own gas pipeline. Or stop the passage of ships to Odessa. Yes, even after half a year of bombing, we did not even cut off the front-line cities of Ukraine from the world.
  40. -1
    April 6 2023 17: 45
    The explosion of underwater Internet cables was supposed to take place immediately after the Nord Stream gas pipeline was destroyed. This is the only way to show the enemy the seriousness of your intentions, and not at all by drawing mythical “red lines”.

    This had to be done as soon as it became clear that our significant losses and failures in the NWO are connected precisely with the use of Starlink. What the hell can be politeness here when our soldiers die because of this! The moment of truth has come - either we win, or we will be erased, which the West frankly and unashamedly strives for, realizing its age-old dream! And our President spoke about it. And at this time, liberal cries that we are not like that, that this is not our method unacceptable!
    1. +1
      April 6 2023 18: 33
      Quote: Goldmitro
      This had to be done immediately, as soon as it became clear that our significant losses and failures in the NWO were connected precisely with the use of Starlink.

      Our losses and failures are connected with an incorrect assessment of the enemy, his capabilities, the lack of a proper outfit of strength and means for a decisive defeat of the enemy.
      The use of starlink by the enemy is only one of the components of an established enemy communication system.
      Before our exercises, we showed mobile cells that were supposed to provide each fighter with an identifier so that communication was comprehensive and fast. Only in practice it turned out that we simply do not have such a massive
  41. +1
    April 6 2023 19: 15
    So it’s possible to gasp the gas pipeline between Norway and Europe at the bottom of the sea and say that these are forelocks on a yacht, they want to push everything to Russia and let them prove to themselves.
  42. +1
    April 6 2023 19: 26
    You can take (if left) FAB-5000 \ FAB-9000 and attaching a simple mechanism with an "oar" they will "plan" under water to the cable.
    And bomb for cheap.

    These FAB one figs have nothing to use and nowhere, and so the heat went from the floundering ship.
  43. 0
    April 6 2023 22: 08
    Yes, you sho, these are not enemies for the Kremlin, but partners don’t even touch Zelya, and they pump gas through a pipe, and you tell them about the cable.
  44. 0
    April 8 2023 10: 07
    Quote from: FoBoss_VM
    And what will the dear partners say, what will Europe think about how it will react? It is also very important not to make business partners worry.

    Right.
    They are more accustomed to turning their cheeks and other places so that they are properly processed.

    Messing around in the "sandbox" (in Ukraine), yes, you can.
    And in the outside world, neither, otherwise they will do ata-ta.

    Think for yourself, mustachioed, he sent his children over the bgor.
    Daughter in Paris, dunce son in London.

    That is, the main mouthpiece of the Kremlin is not betting on our victory in the NWO.

    Protects the offspring from the claims of the West - they do not support the NWO.

    So the cables will continue to work.
    This is guaranteed by the children of Kremlins in the West.

    No one will let us go beyond the red flags set up along the perimeter of Ukroreikh.
    Let's hang out, they'll crush Faberge.
  45. 0
    April 10 2023 19: 29
    The idea is technically unfeasible. The cable is not a gas pipeline, go find it. And even if a few pieces are damaged, then this will not have any effect on either the Internet or Starlink. Traffic will go a different route and that's it.
  46. 0
    April 13 2023 12: 50
    It is not clear why these transatlantic communication lines have not yet been blown up.